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Ladies and gentlemen: Jeff Weaver.
Yet another mediocre pitcher who is good sometimes and bad other times ... and who picked just the right Octobers to be both as far as the St. Louis Cardinals are concerned.
Next year's October savior: Odalis Perez?
Gonna have to get traded first becasue KC ain't playin baseball in Oct. '07. (or '08 or '09).
BTW will Tom Cruise be weighing in on Jeff Weaver's use of ADD meds?
I really shouldn't make these jokes at KC's expense. I was making them about the Tigers three short years ago.
As for Weaver and the ADD meds, I would have expected someone to have figured it out much sooner. ADD meds, e.g. Ritalin, Concerta, Atarol, are all really just speed. In someone who is ADD the speed has a reverse effect. For an unknown reason it slows the users functioning enough to allow them to focus and organize their thoughts over a sustained period of time. Most importantly, it reduces distractibility. But with the alleged use and availability of "greenies" in baseball I would have thought Jeff or someone would have made the connection sooner.
As to the previous thread, I have mostly happy memories when I think of "Ferdie". Fernando was great and some games it seemed to win the game all by himself, fielding, pitching and hitting. I was at game 3 of the 81 World Series where I saw him gut it out without his best stuff and beat the Yankees 5-4, ending the game striking out new Cubs manager, Lou Pinella. I felt bad that he couldn't finish the year due to injury in 1988 due to arm injury. I remember seeing him and Gibby shake hands in the dugout when we clinched the NL pennant. "Oh memories".
I'm intrigued by this "Mets' meltdown" meme. The NLCS was tied 2-2. Whichever team won last night's game would gain an edge. It was much more important for St. Louis to win it because they were leaving their home park. I guess the assumption is that St. Louis goes into NY tonight with a commanding edge because they've got Carpenter and all the Mets have is Maine. But although Carpenter is the superior pitcher, his starting tonight hardly guarantees St. Louis a victory, anymore than Perez's start Monday guaranteed the Mets' defeat.
In short, the "Met meltdown" is a bunch of hype. Last night, all we had was a good, tight game involving two typically tired postseason teams. Any team with as much power as the Mets, that can turn around a game at any time with a couple swings, is not out of it, especially if all they have to do is win two at home.
Whatever works. But one undeniable truth he should have learned by now, no matter what Scott Boras says or how much money is on the table, STAY in the NL. To further the Clint reference: "A man has got to know his limitations."
Weaver's time in Anaheim was the aberration, when he was just getting pounded in the early innings.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6059726.stm
1. You speak in sylables expecting someone else to complete your words;
2. Your thumbs are bigger than your bicepts; and
3. You know your high brick-breaker score by heart.
Mr Jones...opened the door holding a knife for protection...A fight broke out during which Mr Jones was disarmed...and cut with the knife"
Yet another homeowner injured by their own weapon. No doubt he would have been shot with his own gun, if he had had one...
Well, there's not much chance of your gun actually shooting anyone, since you probably bought it at Walmart...
More to the point, did anyone actually know that in the first place...?
Your neighbors have guns. Lots of them
Seeing as how I currently live in North Kakalaki, that's probably a good assumption, although I live in a very "peace-loving" neighborhood with lots of anti-war signs and "Who Would Jesus Bomb" bumperstickers
1. is wearing a tattered Home Depot shirt;
2. is yelling at Grady to play Loney even though Nomar is 5-5;
3. is using VORP to heckle the opposing team.
(Apparently, i'm into lists today)
Strange you should say that. If Tomko had gone 3-1 in April we never would have made the playoffs.
Don't forget the yelling at Nomar as he rounds 3b for swinging on the 1st pitch.
If I remember correctly, it was bullets bought at K-Mart, not guns bought at Walmart...
"You've failed me for the last time, memory..."
Heh heh, not likely...
Moses didn't look too good in that movie.
BTW: Why do Americans shoot each other so much...?
Why do Americans shoot each other so much...?
Wasn't that the point of the movie. I didn't agree with Moore but I don't know the answer.
Duh.
I dunno, seems just like any other thread ;-)
At least its not porn stars, aspargus and pee. That was so last year.
Funny article, though. I wonder if its been a topic of discussion in the chat room where the alleged web rage took place.
What didn't you agree with? I don't recall that he ever really came to a conclusion. There were a lot of explanations thrown out by various people in the movie, but each seemed problematic...
Nah. If it was just hate Bob would have killed Frank Robinson. I would have killed Tom Cruise and everyone here would have killed Julio Lugo.
Now I hate guns, even though I still own one. It's more of an heirloom since I own no ammunition and haven't fired it for 30 years.
Jeff Weaver on ADD meds? Is that legit? I must have been too distracted to notice that news item.
Weaver did more or less match this three game run in August with 5 ER in 18 2/3 inn. The Cards beat the Reds in two of them back when they were fighting for the Central lead. But he also strung together some other three game nightmares in the NL: 14 ER in 12 inn and 12 ER in 14 2/3 inn.
Variability in Weaver's season/postseason performances = support for Kayaker7's tirade the other day about the unreliable forecasting power of a quantitative approach?
(...flees site as mob approaches with pitchforks and firearms(?) chanting 'small sample size').
I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet. You're all a bunch of heathens.
I'll try and respond without running afoul of rule #5.
I didn't really buy the we have more murders because guns are so accessible argument. IMO, Columbine and most of the killings depicted would have happened anyway. Other societies have as many guns per capital and the murder rate isn't nearly as high. I don't know why our murder rate is so high. As for the movie, I didn't care for the way he ambushed certain people. Granted I have no problem taking on the NRA if you are anti-gun but embarrassing a feeble old man suffering from Alzheimer's because he is the former spokesperson of the NRA detracted from Moore's credibility. Go after the current NRA spokesperson. I had less probelm with going after Dick Clark becasue he is the current owner of the resturant in question. ANd I had no probelm with going to K-Mart's headquaters.
There were things I very much agreed with. His segment on the media's sensationalism of every story no matter how small so they can sell more papers, airtime or commercials was right on the money. Words I never though I'd udder, "I was very impressed by and fully agree with Marylyn Manson."
It is a thought provoking movie and raises issues which obviously need to be addressed. I just don't always agree with his approach or conclusions.
I'm sure somebody sings it my way.
Now that is embarrassing. Climb under the cow and speak.
(That was until I wrote "Words I never though I'd udder.")
Never ask a lawyer for a an answer unless your prepared to read the brief:)
Other societies have as many guns per capital and the murder rate isn't nearly as high
Doesn't he make this point in the movie? IIRC, he pretty much debunked every hypothesis that was put forth. Someone would say "Americans shoot each other so often because of X," then he would show other countries with X that don't shoot each other nearly as often as Americans do.
embarrassing a feeble old man suffering from Alzheimer's because he is the former spokesperson of the NRA
He may have been the former spokesman, but he was still traveling around to NRA events and even went to one in Colorado right after Columbine. He's not some feeble invalid who never leaves the house. Moore questioned him about his decision to promote the NRA in the place where a high school shooting had just occurred. That seemed legitimate to me.
Questioning Heston seemed appropriate to me also. The questions were legitimate considering Heston's actions after Columbine. At the time, I think he was still the head of the NRA, not just a spokesperson.
Before I saw the the movie, I thought it was strictly anti-gun but by the end I thought Moore's point had more to do with the media and how it sensationalizes every single story rather than a it being strictly about guns and gun contorl.
Not that I'm fixated on baseball or anything.
Columbine happened 5/20/99
Heston discloses illness in Aug 2002.
Movie comes out in 2002.
Heston's health seemes to decline signifigantly between 1999 and 2002. To me it would be like going after Dick Clark today. (i.e. post-stroke). I don't disagree that it was in bad taste for Heston to go to Columbine so soon after the tragedy to promote his cause but Moore should have focused on that time not three years later after the ravages of Alzheimers. And the way Moore went about the interview was equally in bad taste.
Two interesting facts I found when looking for info on Heston and the movie:
"On 18 June 1968, Heston appeared on "The Joey Bishop Show" (1967) and, along with Gregory Peck, James Stewart and Kirk Douglas, called for gun controls following the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy. Ironically, thirty years later, Heston was elected President of the National Rifle Association of America (NRA) and campaigned against gun control."
and
"After two years of trying to get an interview with Charlton Heston, Michael Moore was going to give up. Showing up at Heston's house was totally spontaneous - on the way to the airport, a staff member suggested that they find his house using a star map."
As for your other point we don't really disagree. I just felt that he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. While he did distinguish us from other countries with easy access to guns, much of the content of the movie came back to the availablty of guns.
Finally, did Michael Moore ever save the Planet from a society of murderous apes? Did he ever discover that Soylent Green was really people? Did he ever part the Red Sea or win a chariot race? I think not! :-)
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