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De Jon's the One
2006-10-24 15:00
by Jon Weisman

The Dodgers officially hired De Jon Watson as director of player development, the team announced today. Watson, a graduate of Santa Monica High School, comes to Los Angeles after three years as director of professional scouting for the Cleveland Indians.

* * *

Gyroballing Japanese free agent Daisuke Matsuzaka has hired agent Scott Boras to represent him, according to Jon Heyman of

Matsuzaka. Expensive, and built to stay that way.

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2006-10-24 15:27:55
1.   underdog
What, De Jon Weisman wasn't available? ;-)
2006-10-24 15:30:56
2.   caseybarker
De Jon Mustard was not available.

I hope he does well with all the young talent we have--especially in rookie and A.

2006-10-24 16:19:18
3.   sakesake
De Jons notable draftees while with the reds: Adam Dunn and Austin Kearns.

De Jons interview article

2006-10-24 16:20:31
4.   sakesake
the link to that article in my previous post.

2006-10-24 16:20:43
5.   Marty
I'm hoping he really signed Borat to be his agent.
2006-10-24 16:33:30
6.   King of the Hobos
For anyone worried about free agent compensation, it has remained in the new CBA, albeit slightly changed. Type C free agents will no longer have any form of compensation (this should have very little effect), and the Type A and B pools will shrink starting next year.
2006-10-24 16:54:35
7.   underdog
5 That would make benefit glorious for Dodgers playing squad!
2006-10-24 16:56:05
8.   bhsportsguy
A couple of things about De Jon.

He has worked for the Marlins, Reds and Indians. But he also is one of the sons of R&B legend Johnny "Guitar" Watson.

2006-10-24 17:06:16
9.   Andrew Shimmin
In celebration of the new CBO, I watched On the Waterfront last night.
2006-10-24 17:06:25
10.   Linkmeister
7 What a country!

(Yes, yes; I know Yakov Smirnov is now living and working in Branson, Mo.)

2006-10-24 17:07:17
11.   Linkmeister
9 CBO? Congressional Budget Office? Come to think of it, maybe they use meathooks in that place.
2006-10-24 17:08:56
12.   LAT
This may have be discussed in another thread and I missed it but from Ken Gurnick:

"Beimel had a disastrous finish to an unexpectedly effective season. The hand injury he suffered in a bar undermined the club's playoff chances and his initial lie about how it happened blew his credibility with management. Left-handed relievers who can make 62 appearances in five months with an ERA below 3.00 are coveted, yet they rarely duplicate their best seasons with any consistency. Hong-Chih Kuo has the goods for the role, but he seems destined to be a starter. The Dodgers probably figure if they can find a Minor League free agent like Beimel once, they can do it again.

I hope Gurnick is wrong. While I would be furious with Beimel if I were a member of the team (Hell, I was furious with him as a fan), effective left-hand relievers do not fall off of trees. I know Ned is a character guy and we kicked this dead horse with Milton Bradley, but based on what we know (which may not be the whole story) I would give Joe another chance. I assume he has showed the requisite contrition and he regrets the injury and lying more than anyone. Let's face it, if it were Kent or Furcal or Lofton there wouldn't even be a discussion about their return. IIRC Ned was the Asst GM when Kent lied about breaking his arm and Ned somehow excused that. It seems hypocritical of Ned not to give Beimel a second chance.

2006-10-24 17:09:03
13.   Andrew Shimmin
11- Collective bargaining agreement. I was trying to be hip.
2006-10-24 17:09:09
14.   Marty
Never cross Johnny Friendly
2006-10-24 17:17:08
15.   Andrew Shimmin
Are different FOX affiliates running different pre-game shows? Or does everybody have Kevin Kennedy and Jeannie Zelasko?
2006-10-24 17:17:42
16.   Jon Weisman
12 - I hope Gurnick is right. Middle relievers do fall off trees - Beimel is the perfect illustration - and then fall back onto them again. While I have no trouble forgiving and forgetting with Beimel and inviting him back for next year, we shouldn't count on him duplicating his performance, and the Dodgers would be foolish not to scrounge for a replacement. (More importantly, though, they shouldn't overpay for someone.)

Here's my article showing how much relief performance fluctuates. Middle relievers - especially veterans - fall into the job precisely because they aren't consistent year over year.

2006-10-24 17:46:10
17.   Kyle S
16 - Jon, I agree with you and Gurnick.

I started thinking about those relievers who don't fall off trees, and remembered Gagne. Do you think he'll be wearing blue next year? I honestly don't know how many years he'll get with Boras as his agent and teams like the Red Sox begging for a Papelbon-like replacement. Do you think a one-year incentive-laden contract is enough to retain him? I sadly have my doubts.

2006-10-24 17:49:49
18.   bhsportsguy
A couple of things from the new CBA. It is unknown if some of these things take effect this year but let's assume they will if not specifically noted.

Free Agency:
It sounds as if the only deadline is the one-week period that begins at midnight the day after the World Series. Which must mean that teams are now allowed to bargain with their own players with no imposed deadlines.

The tender date for clubs to offer contracts to all players has been moved up to Dec. 12.

And players traded in the middle of a multi-year contract can no longer demand a trade.

First Year Draft:

First, the good news is that teams will get same-slot compensation if they don't sign their 1at and 2nd round draft picks and a sandwich pick between the 3rd and 4th round for failure to sign your 3rd round pick.

Here is the doozy of the new agreemennt, teams will no longer have until the next draft to sign their picks (except for college seniors) but must do so by the following Aug. 15th or the player goes back into the pool. So, no more draft and follows.

Rule 5 draft protection

They have increased the timeframe for having to protect players, now players signed at 18 or younger can be protected for 5 years and those 19 and older will be protected for 4 years.

Free Agent compensation.

Type C Major League free agents will no longer carry draft pick compensation for the club that loses the player, beginning this year, while Type A and Type B free agents will continue to carry compensation.

Next year the Type A and Type B pools shrink. Right now, Pool A is the top 30 percent at their position, but in succeeding with decrease to 20 percent. Pool B is the top 50 percent, but it will decrease from 21 percent to 40 percent.

Again, it is hard to know if these changes take place this year or not, the draft compensation probably does and several of the current free agent deadlines fall beyond the effective date of the new agreement so I do think that those changes go into effect now. The only ones I am not sure about are the ones regarding the Rule V draft.

2006-10-24 17:52:24
19.   bhsportsguy
18 Also the All Star game will continue to determine the home field for the World Series and MLB promised no contraction of franchises during the life of the contract.
2006-10-24 17:53:18
20.   trainwreck
I have no problem with any of those changes.

Cleveland has produced a good minor league system so I like the hire of Watson.

2006-10-24 17:56:04
21.   bhsportsguy
20 Watson was the Indians Major League scout so I believe his job was more related to assessing that level of talent rather than scouting for the draft.

However, he was involved with the Reds minor league system and I am sure he had some input on the Indians talent.

2006-10-24 17:57:50
22.   regfairfield
20 Do they? What players have they actually drafted? The only ones I can think of that are on the team now are Peralta and Garko.
2006-10-24 18:00:44
23.   trainwreck
Sowers? Miller.
2006-10-24 18:01:59
24.   trainwreck
Well if he was the major league scout then I hope he did not say go for Boone, but he did say go for Marte.

Oh well, I still think White has a lot of say in what goes on with the prospects. So as long as he is there I am not worried.

2006-10-24 18:04:18
25.   regfairfield
23 Who's Miller? Still, is four out of 25 really that great? If he's the guy who said go get Sizemore, Hafner, and the rest, then I'm all for him. Otherwise, eh.
2006-10-24 18:12:13
26.   Linkmeister
13 Andrew, I knew that. I was just practicing my snarkiness.
2006-10-24 18:23:20
27.   Andrew Shimmin
26- You know, I didn't notice my typo until just now.
2006-10-24 18:29:17
28.   ToyCannon
Adam Miller, who will be a top 5 pitching prospect next year. He spent the last part of last year and the 1st part of this year getting healthy and then started showing everyone why he was the top guy in 2004 in his league.

The Indians have a nice minor league system. No real stars but lots of talent. Miller is the exception, he should be an ace if he can stay healthy.

2006-10-24 18:30:54
29.   regfairfield
28 Gotcha, thanks.
2006-10-24 18:43:54
30.   regfairfield
Wait, Leyland just walked Yadier Molina intentionally to get to Taguchi?
2006-10-24 18:50:17
31.   Robert Daeley
12 "It seems hypocritical of Ned not to give Beimel a second chance."

It might, except that Ned hasn't made that decision public nor has he in any way indicated that that is his decision. And how would Ned's role as Assistant GM with the Giants have anything to do with either Jeff Kent's doings at the time, that organization's collective reaction to his doings, or Ned's attitude toward Beimel's actions now?

2006-10-24 18:52:48
32.   Andrew Shimmin
Another head scratcher: Why is Edmonds batting behind Belliard? Isn't Rolen the one who's supposed to be angry with LaRussa?
2006-10-24 18:58:26
33.   LAT

Nice article Jon. I especially liked this stat.

Of the Top 100 in ARP at this year's All-Star Break, 53 had not been on the list once in the previous four seasons.

That is unbelievable. Maybe that is a reason to let him walk him. Apparently lightning doesn't strike in consecutive years.

In any event, my point was the decision to retain Biemel should not be driven by his post-season stupidity. If the decision is made to cut him lose because middle relievers are a dime a dozen. that's fine but it shouldn't be driven by Ned's need for character.

2006-10-24 19:12:14
34.   Terry A
32 - Cardinal fans are so giddy that Juan E. is not among the starting nine tonight, they couldn't care less about the batting order.

33 - Given his acquisitions of Furcal and Lugo, does Ned still have a jones for character?

2006-10-24 19:15:31
35.   LAT
31. It might, except that Ned hasn't made that decision public nor has he in any way indicated that that is his decision. And how would Ned's role as Assistant GM with the Giants have anything to do with either Jeff Kent's doings at the time, that organization's collective reaction to his doings, or Ned's attitude toward Beimel's actions now?

You are correct, Ned may have wanted to throw the book at Kent for lying and Sabean may have overruled him. But I assume Ned, as AGM, was involved the decision on how to respond to motorcycle-gate. My point is that Ned should be consistent in his response to both the Kent and Beimel incidents.

Moreover, I did not say Ned was being hypocritical. I said, IMO, based on the information we have to date, that it would be hypocritical if he treated Beimel differently than Kent.

2006-10-24 19:23:47
36.   ToyCannon
Sorry Larry, I'd have fired Beimal, this is a team sport and he let down his team and fans. He can get his respect back with another team but not my team. For some of these players this might have been their only shot at a ring and his carelessness cut the odds on that happening. I'm normally a 2nd chance guy but each situation is different and it is not hypocritical to handle each case differently.
2006-10-24 19:27:25
37.   D4P
FYI everyone: the World Series chat is over at The Griddle tonight...
2006-10-24 19:28:35
38.   Uncle Miltie
Teams that fail to sign first- and second-round draftees will get the same pick next year (if the Rays fail to sign the No. 1 pick in the 2007 draft, they'll get pick 1a in the 2008 draft).
I guess this gives less incentive for teams to give into certain agents ridiculous demands, but I still don't like this change. In the year of a weak draft, a team can intentionally draft a player and refuse to them so they get a high pick the following year in a possibly stronger draft.
2006-10-24 20:04:23
39.   bhsportsguy
38 Teams currently get a compensation pick if they don't sign their first round pick, its the compensation for second and third rounds that is new.
2006-10-24 20:06:43
40.   Bluebleeder87
so chances are Beimel won't be wearing Dodger blue next year uh
2006-10-24 20:40:34
41.   Andrew Shimmin
Coming up on QVC: Countdown to Christmas.
2006-10-24 20:45:11
42.   Jon Weisman
33 - "In any event, my point was the decision to retain Biemel should not be driven by his post-season stupidity. If the decision is made to cut him lose because middle relievers are a dime a dozen. that's fine but it shouldn't be driven by Ned's need for character. "

I agree with that. Beimel worked hard to get to where he is, and should get a second chance to be evaluated on merit. Certainly, if he were to pitch well next season, and also behaved, it would more than atone.

2006-10-24 21:01:48
43.   Uncle Miltie
39- that's not how rotoworld worded it (I may have just misinterpreted it). Under the old bargaining agreement, teams that failed to sign a 1st round draft pick received a compensation pick after the completion of the first round. The new rule makes it look like the team would receive the same exact pick as they did the previous year. For example:

The Dodgers draft Bob Timmermann with the 1st pick in the 2008 draft. Bob holds out and the Dodgers are unwillingly to meet his demands. The Royals (1st) and Marlins (2nd) finish with the worst records in baseball in 2008. The 2009 draft would look like this:
1. Royals
1a. Dodgers
2. Marlins

Is that not correct? Can someone clear this up..

2006-10-24 22:03:25
44.   Rocc
Here's a doozy of a post...

38. Nah, I doubt David Price/Matt Wieters/Andrew Brackman/etc. will have extremely insane demands that the Rays wouldn't be able to sign them.(Yes I realized it was just an example)

As I've read it, the teams will receive a compensatory pick in the next year's draft.

Next, I'd like to ask any Dodger fans who are
knowledgable about the Dodgers farm system(npurcell, canuckdodger and D4P to name a few) to email me( for a story that I'm writing this offseason to both highlight how good the Rays system is, but to also highlight other great systems in baseball.

2006-10-24 22:05:41
45.   Steve
D4P enters the pantheon. It was only a matter of time.
2006-10-24 22:12:50
46.   Xeifrank
Anyone notice this in Major League Baseball's rule 1.04 (near the bottom of it). I don't think the park in SF meets this criteria.
vr, Xei
NOTE (a) Any Playing Field constructed by a professional club after June 1, 1958, shall provide a minimum distance of 325 feet from home base to the nearest fence, stand or other obstruction on the right and left field foul lines, and a minimum distance of 400 feet to the center field fence. (b) No existing playing field shall be remodeled after June 1, 1958, in such manner as to reduce the distance from home base to the foul poles and to the center field fence below the minimum specified in paragraph (a) above.
2006-10-24 22:22:35
47.   D4P
D4P enters the pantheon

How did I manage that...?

2006-10-24 22:25:28
48.   Louis in SF
Jon, article about the fickelness of middle relief is excellent and validates a feeling I have had for years, with a good closer and a decent set-up man, what you really want if you can get it are starting pitchers who can go at least a minimum of six innings and hopefully more. A further reason to go back to a 4 man rotation, but I am sure it won't happen in my life time.

In watching the playoffs and world series you can't help but notice that Carpenter, Suppan, Rodgers have been able to go deep into games 7 plus innings with low pitch counts and not overwhelming strikeouts. Who out on the current pitcher free agent market reflects the high inning low pitch count equation?

2006-10-24 22:26:35
49.   Steve
Just remember all the little people you stepped on to get there.
2006-10-24 22:30:26
50.   D4P
Where is "there", and again, how did I make it there?
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2006-10-24 22:36:47
51.   natepurcell
knowledgable about the Dodgers farm system(npurcell, canuckdodger and D4P to name a few

D4P is only knowledgable of the prospects that are needed to be traded in order to acquire Torii Hunter.

2006-10-24 22:43:44
52.   Ken Arneson
46 The Giants asked for, and were granted, an exception to that rule.
2006-10-24 22:44:52
53.   D4P
Heh heh, I hadn't seen that. For me to be mentioned as being knowledgeable about the Dodgers' farm sytem is like rain on your wedding day
2006-10-24 22:56:30
54.   Xeifrank
52. Yeah, that's what I figured. The league commissioner probably made exceptions for the Giants and many of the other band boxes. I wonder what another 20 feet to the right field fences would've done to Bonds HR numbers. They could've built a floating right field pavillion. :) vr, Xei
2006-10-24 23:05:06
55.   trainwreck
I just saw a preview for next weeks Nip/Tuck and look who is in it...Alanis Morissette.
2006-10-24 23:09:12
56.   trainwreck
Liriano may be out for all of 2007.

2006-10-24 23:14:36
57.   LAT
36. Cannon, I agree each case is diffrent however, Kent blew a lot of games for his team and was a veteren at the time. Although it was the worst possible time Beimel blew three games (sadly it was only three) Like Beimel, I was young and stupid once. I'm sure I got a second chance along the way. Anyway, Jon's article convinced me that the middle relievers are not as valuable as I thought but I assume he has a little more value as a lefty.
2006-10-24 23:16:08
58.   LAT
55. That's ironic. (sorry could'nt stop myself)
2006-10-25 07:20:38
59.   Bumsrap
Is it the risk taking act or getting caught that is penalized?

Does driving 75 mph in a 45 mph zone without getting caught constitute bad character?

Does drinking in a bar after curfew predicting victory in a super bowl ala Joe Namath constitute bad character or just marketable charisma?

Duke Snider was in two automobile accidents after curfue I believe and both times hurt his knees and those injuries reduced his value to the team.

So, what should be the rule. Miss curfew get suspended, or get hurt away from the game and get suspended?

2006-10-25 07:40:20
60.   Greg Brock
Bud Selig: Okay, guys, we can sit here and haggle over the new CBA, in which case I'll demand that a provision for HGH be put in, or we can quietly agree to a new deal.

MLBPA: Agreed. Nice doing business with you.

2006-10-25 09:02:29
61.   paranoidandroid
Beimel cannot return!!!!!

The message to the team and to the fans is simple: Nobody can put themselves in front of the team. Nobody. He did something dumb and then LIED about it! He is gone. Period. He'll get a chance elsewhere, but he cost himself millions. See ya. Wunsch returns...

2006-10-25 09:16:03
62.   Jon Weisman
61 - If Albert Pujols cut his hand at a bar, and lied about it, and then was contrite, would you cut him?
2006-10-25 09:19:47
63.   paranoidandroid
Apples and oranges Jon. Big contract MVP vs. journeyman minor league contract guy. When was the last time the Dodgers had the same situational lefty for two seasons in a row? Jesse Orosco?

Send the message to the organization and it's fan base. Team first. Integrity counts. No more Bradley-like nonsense. Beimel will not be back. I could be wrong. He came through this year. But if he comes into game one instead of Penny...

2006-10-25 09:24:40
64.   Jon Weisman
61 - You said, "Nobody can put themselves in front of the team. Nobody." That's what I was responding to. But really, it's all about where you draw the line about integrity.

The larger point, as we've discussed, is how replacable Beimel is, talent-wise. That's what governs the debate. There's no widespread integrity message being sent to the organization and its fans if the Dodgers don't keep him.

2006-10-25 09:36:26
65.   Jon Weisman
64, cont'd. - The only message being sent is that fringe players need to behave at a higher standard than star players if they want to stay on the team - and everyone already knows that.
2006-10-25 09:48:21
66.   gibsonhobbs88
In reflecting back to game 2 of this year's World Series, isn't it peculiar that The Gambler is only asked to wash his hands of whatever that substance was(pine tar, I presume not just dirt) yet Jay Howell in the 1988 LCS was ejected and suspended for the same offense. I wonder what Tommy's thoughts were when he watched "Targate" unfold on Sunday night? More ammunition for my "anti-LA" conspiracy in MLB! You better believe if a Dodger pitcher had that on his hand, he would have been undressed, ejected and hung in effigy in Bud Selig's office. Instead, the umpires, almost disinterested, just ask Kenny Rogers to wash his hands. (Pontious Pilate has a kindred spirit in the WS umpires)!
2006-10-25 09:53:37
67.   gibsonhobbs88
60 - Knowing how back-handed and sinister Selig is, he probably also threatened to contract two teams also if the CBA was to be held up.
2006-10-25 10:03:08
68.   paranoidandroid
Agreed, fringe players are held to a different standard. Guys like Bradley get many chances compared to a middle reliever. Beimel is being thrown under the bus (or I think should be) as a message that is safe to send because he is replacable compared to a Pujols. However, in defense of my original post, nobody can and should put their own interests in front of the team, certainly a given in sports, but not enforced too often. How management handles those that do is what we are discussing I believe. In Beimel's case, they can and I believe will break ties with him.

As a free agent, can he sign a guaranteed contract with anyone or do we control him? If he can sign elsewhere, that would resolve the issue. My point is that he indeed made a major error and wasn't contrite or apologetic until he was caught in his lie. Any second chance he could have received was blown by the attempted cover up. I guess when he is facing the loss of millions, he felt he needed to lie. I wonder if he cut himself slamming down a shot glass.

Bottom line: He's replacable. I think he's gone. I think that will improve the clubhouse. He might be a scapegoat and not deserving of that, but it could help us forget 06 playoff stumbles and move forward.

2006-10-25 10:34:37
69.   ToyCannon
In the real world you can't be a jerk and incompetent and remain employed for long unless your an elected official ala the President. In baseball you can't break rules and be a journeyman if you expect to remain employed. If Jose Guillen had been Vlady he'd still be an Angel and Scoscia would have been gone, not the franchise. It is easy to make examples of expendable players.
2006-10-25 10:40:24
70.   Daniel Zappala
I think some of you are being way too harsh on Beimel. There were a lot of other things that went wrong in the playoffs (Tomko, anyone?), that I am sure the Dodgers are not purely blaming Beimel for their lack of success.

Like many of us, I'm sure Beimel is contrite about his mistake and his lies, and is more than willing to try to make up for it. Were I running the team, I would be happy to give him a second chance and see if he could be a part of the bullpen.

2006-10-25 10:40:50
71.   ToyCannon
In Jeff Kent's case he broke an admendment in his contract not a team rule which I think is a huge difference when parceling out punishment. If they had suspended him without pay then they would have lost any chance to sign him to another contract. Since at the time he was the premier offensive 2nd baseman in the NL it was prudent on their part to handle it with kid gloves. They still didn't sign him but if they had suspended him they would have had no chance.
2006-10-25 10:44:33
72.   caseybarker
I can think, right off the bat, of two prominent political officials who were jerks and incompetent and lost their jobs in this decade.

If you live in California, the first should be easy.

2006-10-25 10:48:00
73.   caseybarker
Which is just to say that the punishment depends on who is the boss and whether or not the boss perceives any wrongdoing.
2006-10-25 10:48:29
74.   paranoidandroid
I forgive Beimel. I like the way he pitched this year. I love the number 97 for the year his daughter was born. And... I think he needs to go. Tomko? His mouth about wanting to be a closer? He needs to shut up and pitch. He didn't help us in the postseason. But it is a different situation. He went into the battle and lost. He's under contract. Beimel isn't under contract. He let the team down without taking the field. He should go. Are we being too hard on him? Perhaps, but I think he brought it upon himself and I hope he lands a job elsewhere. Anaheim could use him.
2006-10-25 10:53:08
75.   caseybarker
I am reminded of Barrett Robbins. His situation was different, I think, because he had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and he meant more to the Raiders than Beimel meant to the Dodgers, but it was just as disappointing.
2006-10-25 10:54:10
76.   ToyCannon

The Mets should sign all available Loogy's and stash them away so they don't have to face any of them during the season.

2006-10-25 12:29:12
77.   bhsportsguy
Those of you who want the Dodgers to change their main L.A. radio station here is a note in Tom Hoffarth's Daily News blog and remember the Dodgers had nothing to do with it.

It's time for Dodgers baseball ... on another network
KFWB-AM (980), which has been losing millions each year on its radio rights deal to carry the Dodgers games as it enters the fifth and final season of its contract with the team, has sent the first nasty indication that the end is approaching after it informed executive producer and key department head Tom Boman that his job has been eliminated for budgetary reasons.

The station has decided to trudge ahead without anyone really in charge of the broadcast.
"I'm stunned, more than anything," Boman, who practically runs the entire Dodger radio network and oversees all programming, said Wednesday morning. "There's no logical reasoning behind this."
Boman had been running everything involved with the Dodgers' radio broadcast for the last four years, and the prior three years when the team was at 1150-AM.
Boman's involvement went beyond just getting the show on the air every night -- he coordinated many sales deals for the station and was generally the unsung player who'd smooth out all the rough edges that listeners would have otherwise not noticed. While Dodgers radio broadcasters Charley Steiner and Rick Monday are Dodgers employees, Boman was in charge of the team's radio booth, making all calls on what went out on the air. Any change in the broadcast teams over the last seven years started with Boman.
Boman said station boss David Hall told him at their meeting Tuesday that it had nothing to do with his performance, it was simply money. And if money's the issue, the Dodgers have to be looking elsewhere now to line up a radio home for beyond 2007.

2006-10-25 12:48:49
78.   Jon Weisman
77 - Thanks, BH. Two new posts up top.
2006-10-25 13:04:36
79.   twerp
This may be late to the party, but 3 things RE Beimel---

1) If Beimel is being scapegoated because the Dodgers didn't win, that's absurd. He might or might not have pitched well. But baserunning straight out of the 3 Stooges--who's on third... Anyhow?--a team ERA over 5, lack of timely hitting from several players, etc. override anything Beimel might have added. Given those problems, LA loses, Beimel or no, as most teams would.

2) If you wouldn't cut a superstar Pujols for the same offense, the argument loses steam. We all know a Pujols wouldn't be cut. The team would lose too much. He might be traded, so a team could "make a statement." But the team would get back enormous value for him, so it really wouldn't be sacrificing to make its "statement."

3) Let any of us who have not been given a second chance after fouling something up cast the first stone/insist Beimel be cut loose...especially if there he hasn't had other incidents.

But if he comes back and there's another similar incident, that's a different story.

2006-10-25 13:33:58
80.   ToyCannon
I'm not scapegoating Beimal for the Dodgers failure in the postseason. He could have pitched and done lousy just like his pre 2006 career. I'm just not interesting in bringing him back. 2nd chances are great and if he had no other option and was going to head for the welfare table then I'd give him his 2nd chance with the Dodgers but since 24 other teams still need a loogy he can get his 2nd chance somewhere else.

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