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Jason Schmidt made 20 quality starts in 2006. Here are the line scores of his performance in his other 12 games:
010 012 0
010 003 1
013 010 0
000 001 (5 2/3 innings pitched)
031 000 2
021 00
000 014 3
100 302
004 4
000 001 21 (7 innings pitched)
000 03
000 400 0
Overall, after six innings in each of his 32 starts in 2006, Schmidt held the opponent to three earned runs or less in 21.
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From Steve Henson of the Times:
It was 1 a.m. Thursday and the Dodgers' general manager shuffled into the team's winter meetings hotel suite, shirttail out, poured a celebratory light beer into a paper cup and plopped into a chair.
"We got what we wanted without giving up the kids," he said. ...
Colletti, impatient by nature, said he would force himself to slow the pace and allow one major deal to develop to bring a bonafide slugger to the Dodgers for one or more of his surplus starting pitchers and, yes, maybe even one of the "kids."
"We'll get [Schmidt and (Luis) Gonzalez] finished, then we can let the dust settle and see where we are," he said. "There are few components of a team more valuable than pitching and good young players. We didn't sacrifice one for the other."
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From Dodgers public relations director Josh Rawitch at Inside the Dodgers:
(James) Loney may very well be ready (or he may not, we won't know until we see it every day), but he should get about 40 games at first base and a bunch more spelling Gonzalez on some days and (Andre) Ethier on others (plus possible DH games, etc). In my opinion, this is an ideal way to break a kid into the Majors (facing primarily right-handers, without all the pressure of an every day job at 22 years old)
For those who believe this team is old, I'm not sure what to say; in the everyday lineup, there should be only two guys over 35 (Kent and Gonzalez) and five guys under 30 (Pierre, Furcal, Ethier, Martin, Betemit). Penny and Billingsley are under 30, Wolf is 30 and Schmidt and Lowe are both in their mid-30s but are bonafide stars based on their track records.
I guess I'm not too sure what power hitter people wanted Ned to go get - we were in on just about every power-hitting free agent there was, but in cases like (Alfonso) Soriano and Aramis Ramirez, we can't make Los Angeles further east than it is. And it seems like most people didn't think that trading for Manny (Ramirez) made sense, given the price. As for the other guys rumored to be available (Andruw Jones, Vernon Wells, etc.), I'd be stunned if either of those guys gets moved for anything less than a gargantuan package of prospects and both are one-year rentals and will surely test the market, given the current landscape.
can this man be trusted?
http://tinyurl.com/yfcxxs
"Talk of Misconduct Is Swirling Around Red Sox"
"According to executives of several clubs, the Red Sox were a hot topic of private conversation at the general managers' meeting last month and at the winter meetings this week. Several officials who work for Major League Baseball said there appeared to be good reason for the talk. Many of those interviewed did not want to be quoted by name because of what they viewed as the sensitivity of talking critically about another team's conduct."
My reaction: Good. Good stories need a bad guy and Bonds being a member of the Giants makes them the bad guys. It will be sweet when we bury him/them one more time.
Others described Colletti as angry about the Drew development and said that relations between Colletti and Theo Epstein, Boston's general manager, had become strained to the point where Colletti wasn't returning Epstein's telephone calls.
colletti really holds grudges doesnt he?
A few weeks isn't long enough to be a grudge. Colletti is just ticked off.
Now if Colletti didn't return Theo Epstein's calls for several years, then you're in grudge territory.
I fancy myself a grudge expert.
I really believe that his ERA was moving in lock step with his waist line in the second half. I would sure be happy to see him show up minus 25 pounds or so.
If the Red Sox so much as discussed contract terms on Drew, that's tampering and it's against the rules. You can't necessarily prove it but it doesn't have to be an enforceable contract. And there was certainly a question about Drew getting more that $33M for 3 years, especially at the time he opted out. I think the general concensus was that he would be crazy to think he could do better and that he probably wasn't crazy and that's why everybody thinks there was tampering involved. I said it right when he opted out and I know I wasn't alone.
http://tinyurl.com/ydvb4s
Darn you, quick fixes.
I think as long as we're looking hard at this situation, the more relevant reaction from Colletti was disappointment. The logical conclusion is that he thought he had right field solved at what was becoming a relative bargain.
I just showed up. I didn't know! Sincerest apologies, oh Great One.
For the record, I'm sure tampering goes on all the time with most every organization.
Ironically whatever happens Drew and Boras win, even if he is a total bust in Boston.
As for Schmidt, I was already feeling pretty good about this signing but then compared to the Royals signing Gil Meche to a five-year, $55M deal, felt even better. I'm not sure Schmidt has more than 2 yrs in him but still, better he's with us than agin' us.
As for Luis Gonzales - meh. I'm with Jon on this one, not excited, but like it as a sign the team wants to give young uns a chance to take over. Prefer this to trading favorites youngsters for Manny Ramirez..
I sure do like our starting pitching now.
Okay now back to feeling irritable in Florida.
I swear, I had a conversation about this with my roommate even before Drew signed with the Sox, when the rumors were just floating around. I suspected, only half-jokingly, that Epstein gave Boras a wink and a nudge in regards to what Drew could expect on the open market.
Of course, the tampering is practically unprove-able. Barring a smoking gun, like a taped phone conversation or an intercepted e-mail between Theo and Boras, guilt will never be definitively established. Kinda like Bonds and the steroids. Plausible deniability the whole way.
I can understand being upset, but this behavior bothers me. If you believe the Red Averages tampered, then file a grievance and move on. If you're upset at Epstein, take the phone call, express your displeasure with his actions, and move on.
You can't decide to ignore Boras clients, because there are players out there you want, and you can't refuse to talk with a GM, because there are possibly beneficial deals out there. This is not tiddly winks (Is this tiddly winks? No? Okay), it's a tough business.
I'm kind of with Jon on this one. Boras, as evil one might think he is, is pretty sharp.
If Boras needed a wink and a nudge to get an idea that the market was going to explode, he might need to find a new line of work.
Remember two years ago when the Yankees said they would never deal with DePodesta again over the putative Brad Penny/Javier Vazquez (and others) deal?
I guess they Yankees got over that.
As for tampering, the Dodgers would need to find some sort of "smoking gun" where someone from the Red Sox explicitly stated that they wanted Drew on their team. I doubt that it could be proved.
The cases of tampering that have been punished were usually very blatant statements. Such as Ted Turner openly speculating in the press about getting Gary Matthews The Elder on the Braves.
I probably deserve it.
Good natured ribbing, most probably.
He may not have needed a wink and a nudge, but that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't get one. Theo was drooling over Drew (Drew-ling?) the instant he opted out, and probably quite a bit before. He's pretty sharp, too. It wouldn't surprise me if he was more cognizant of Drew's opt-out clause than Colletti.
Of course, all the evidence of tampering is circumstantial, and it's pretty flimsy at that. This may be all conjecture and speculation, but that's what blogs and internet message boards are for.
I hold grudges...
--runs away--
I have one quick question, if the MLB investigates the Bosox for tampering, and the outcome is that the Bosox did tamper, to what extent will the Dodgers be effected?
Some people are begging for Ned to give him the 1-year contract he desires, but seriously, what's the use? If he's gonna test the waters after next year anyway, why even bother with him? We have Broxton as our closer-in-waiting, so what good does bringing back an extreme risk in Gagne get us? A few more t-shirt sales if he even pitches for an extended amount of time? I think it's truly time to cut bait; it's not like he ended his contract intact and is looking for a fair offer to be re-signed.
Ah, but was he more cognizant of the opt-out clause than Kim Ng?
In the unlikely event that the Red Sox were found guilty of tampering, Commissioner Selig could decide a lot of things. He probably would impose a hefty fine. I can't imagine that the Red Sox would be prohibited from signing free agents or anyone would be suspended. You couldn't force Drew to go back to the Dodgers.
Colletti would be underperforming if he ruled out future dealings with either Boras or Epstein. GMs must set aside personal issues and keep circuits open with all other GMs and agents. However if he is wary of Boras and Epstein that is a good thing.
The Dodgers are down to one Boras client. Generally I think this is a good thing. And if Ned's anger at Epstein caused Ned to be more wary about trading the farm for Manny, so much the better.
Thanks a lot.
Good players= Winning
Winning= :)
I don't care if Boras is a shady character (it just seems to me that he's really good at his job). I would like good players. Therefore, I would like to deal with Scott Boras.
It science.
Be competent enough to make good deals, and you can negotiate with anybody.
boras clients = massive overpayment
massive overpayments = teams with high "snookerability factor"
teams with high snookerability factor = many many teams in MLB
if you don't overpay a boras client, someone else will. and then you don't get the good player, and you don't get the winning.
and you know we all want the :)
1st Base: Mark Teixeira
2nd Base: Felipe Lopez
3rd Base: Alex Rodriguez
SS: Steven Drew
C: Pudge Rodriguez
LF: Barry Bonds/Magglio Ordonez/
CF-Carlos Beltran/Andruw Jones
RF: JD Drew
Pitchers: Jered Weaver/Barry Zito/Matsuzaka (I could name a lot).
And this took about two minutes. I'm sure I could come up with better team. Not dealing with Scott Boras is a silly proposition on its face, but I thought this would be fun.
My TV broke=Never buy another television for the rest of my life.
Doesn't work as an argument.
You know what would have been really nice about if Colletti decided not do deal with Boras clients? We wouldn't have gotten Lance Carter.
Unless you guys are just nit picking and arguing for the sake of nit picking and arguing. In which case, bravo.
1. Stamp feet, shout, "It's not fair!"
2. Cry (privately)
3. Tell local press that he's really happy things worked out the way they did.
4. Tattle to Bud Selig.
5. Stop returning phone calls.
6. Start rumor involving teenage ticket taker.
7. Male, teenage ticket taker.
8. Cry (still privately)
9. Sign Louis Gonzalez
10. Profit.
11. Exclaim "I'm never signing those stupid Boras players again!"
I'm pretty sure you're just arguing this for fun. You had to have known. You're a sharp guy.
When the dust settled a couple years later Chelsea and Ashley Cole were both fined, Chelsea won the league, Cole made his money back with a tell all book, and Arsenal traded the disgruntled defender to Chelsea who had a disgruntled defender of their own to offer in return.
In the eternal words of the Wu-Tang Clan, C.R.E.A.M.
*Jason Schmidt really does look like he'll be a Dodger, following some talk late yesterday that his three-year, $47-million deal with the team was not going to be closed. I love this contract; it's the second time in two offseasons that the Dodgers have stretched the average annual value of a contract on a deal that's a bit shorter than what a typical player will land. Rafael Furcal, one year ago, signed a three-year, $39-million deal, a contract I also loved.
Say it with me now: it's not the money, it's the length. We just aren't good enough at player projection--and players aren't good enough at sustaining their value--to make contracts of longer than three years a good choice. This deal commits the Dodgers to Schmidt for about as far out as you can reasonably project his performance, and limits their exposure down the road.*
Nate Silver, in Unfiltered, had Schmidt's 2007 PECOTA-projected ERA as 4.13, a sign that PECOTA's been hanging out with the wrong crowd again, doing lines off hookers' backs after Nate goes to bed at night. Schmidt is a power pitcher with pretty good durability and solid peripheral numbers, and he's going to another home park that treats power pitchers well. Schmidt's most recent win-loss records may have contributed to the idea that he's something less, but those numbers are tainted by the support he's received. There's not much reason to think Barry Zito will outpitch him over the next three seasons, and for 2007, I think there's a better chance that he challenges for the ERA title than a mark above 4.00. This is an excellent signing by the Dodgers, who are rapidly becoming the Sybil of the transaction wire.
hes optimistic.
Stately Boras Manor?
The price difference opting out of Boras clients would occasion would not be huge, and it wouldn't attach to each of his clients, but it's a hard case to make that decreasing demand doesn't actually lower price.
Not you Ned, you're more of a fool me once, cry all the way home to mummy and avoid the school yard kind of guy. Not to worry though, all the short bus kids who can't get on base and throw like a girl will still play with you if you pay them enough. :)
http://www.dooce.com/archives/daily/12_07_2006.html
That was pretty funny.
As penance I offer up the following:
http://tinyurl.com/ybmadv
103- I can't tell you how happy it makes me that other people are picking up the D4P hates women meme. It's like I've finally accomplished something, in this life. Thank you, xaphor!
"neddy! give u man-ram 4 kemp/brox/billz. u also have 2 ex. manny's opt. txt back asap plz!"
Preposterous!
Wow, JD Drew cant even get much respect on DT.
Beltre would have been happier if he had stayed in LA. Hochevar should not have missed a year of professional baseball.
When it is all about the money greed becomes part of the thought process and greed never leads to to one's hightest good.
Gagne, like Drew, said he really wanted to stay in LA, and yet he does not accept a $4M contract with great incentives to do so.
Of course Ng won the arbitration case with Gagne and that upset him. So maybe he feels that the $20M he received for doing nothing the last two years was like winning that arbitration case and he owes the Dodgers nothing. Any other agent besides Boras might help him think that through differently.
I like it that Ned now lets Boras come to him instead of the other way around.
So, no, I cannot trust someone like that.
To start the season in a way that gave Loney enough atbats to stay sharp I would like to see him each week spot Gonzo twice, Ethier once, and Nomar once. That would let him play 4 pre-scheduled games a week.
That might be enough to force Little into playing him more either by moving Nomar to left or to third so Loney can play first where he belongs.
Take back the night!
I think I would rather have Wells for one year.
If the Dodgers got Wells would they give him Beltran money to keep him past this year?
If Wells were to play CF for the Dodgers would Pierre(1) move to left or to right or would Wells have to play right?
If laughter is the best medicine, then Dodger Thoughts is the smartest (especially in math), hottest, 98th percentile redheaded, OPS toutin' nurse with that sweet syringe o' words.
I don't watch that show. "Housewives" is a demeaning term.
Ever read The Yellow Wallpaper? That's what happens: you go crazy until you walk out into the ocean and never come back.
Next, if anyone wants a laugh...The Boston Herald reports that the Devil Rays are one of 5-6 teams inquiring about Eric Gagne.
That caught me offguard...
I think the Dodgers HAVE to make that trade, and hope the revenues you net from the extra playoff wins this year can pay to re-sign Wells. (Though, frankly, I'd let Wells walk and take the draft picks.)
You say "all about the money", I say "getting paid what you're worth". The rest of the teams' offers (or lack of offers) determine's what you're worth, and if a team wants to pay you significantly lower than what you're worth, oh well, move on.
In the long run, what's a few million dollars a year when you already will be set for life and you can play for a team and in an atmosphere you prefer. Perhaps I'm just be overly naive....
sometimes, with ultra-competitive people even their contracts are objects of competition even if they are already set for life. I guess it is a byproduct of a capitalistic society because it also goes on in a ton of offices.
I somewhat agree with that, but if the team you're on has the cash, why should the owner keep it and not you (assuming he has it)?
http://tinyurl.com/sos44
Professional athletes are mostly too young to have learned that money is only a small factor in overall hapiness and well being.
This is even more true of the importance of one ridiculous amount of money vs. another ridiculous amount.
In fact this is one of my main objections to Boras. He obviously knows he want's more money, is good at getting it, and I would say more power to him. I worry however, about the young people he may cause great unhappiness in his rapacious quest for "MORE".
Also, when players sign up with Boras, they are announcing to all owners that it is about money, all about money, the signature goes to the highest bidder, and nothing is going to happen quickly.
No chance of signing Gagne;
Talk with Boston re Manny was never very serious. They will only trade Manny if they are "overwhelmed" with a deal;
Gonzo good for 35 doubles, admits power is gone, good clubhouse guy. Real point of Gonzo was to make Kemp and Ethier compete for playing time;
No rift with Boras, almost admitted he pouted about Drew but said he got over it quickly.
I think thats it
I like big Bucks and I cannot lie!
Dang, that sure is an expensive way to motivate two young players...while probably causing a disruptive Gonzo if both are sucessful in the process.
I don't know if it's the reality or not, but that is also the impression that I get when it comes to being one of Boras' clients. The player CHOOSES to sign on with Boras, but after that it's Boras who makes the decision on where the player is going to end up. The player's best interests in regard to anything besides dollars - which city they want to live in, how their personality may mesh with a particular team - is ignored once you become a Boras client.
Does anyone know how the player-agent contracts operate? Can a player simply fire Boras if he gets sick of dealing with his money-at-all costs antics? I'm sure they can dump Boras but something tells me he's written severe penalties into their agreement for any early breach of contract. After all, if the guy is capable of out negotiating most GM's, it doesn't seem much of a stretch to think he's outsmarting the players too.
The market has taken a huge jump since Seattle signed Beltre and now they are trying to trade him because he isn't worth his cost even in today's dollars.
Would you sell something for more than you know it is worth just because someone with less knowledge of its worth is willing to pay too much? What ethics are involved in that decision?
IIRC, Boras is Maddux's agent and I don't believe Maddux is all about the money. I'm sure some players use Boras because he does a great job of maximizing the amount of money each team may offer the player, but at the end of the day, the payer has the ultimate free will to decide where he wants to play.
So, if this is what Ned thinks Gonzo is capable of, why would he sign him?
In memory of Jose Uribe, one last "Oooo-ree-bay."
I wished Simmers or Rogin asked where Loney fits in.
Jose Uribe, Robby Thompson, Rick Reuschel, Jeffrey Leonard. Ugh, those were some hatable Giants.
I was part of a focus group last night. It was a weird experience, but I got paid $35 bucks an hour for two easy hours. They had us look at a bunch of company pamphlets, brochures, and other literature and give them feedback.
They handed us one particularly colorful brochure, and asked us to sum up our impression in one word.
Forgetting for a second that I was in a boardroom with ten strangers, I blurted out in my best Homer Simpson voice:
"Mmmmmmmmmmmm, glossy." I then spent several minutes trying to compose myself and not giggle uncontrollably. I think everyone thought I was completely nuts.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=uribejo01
They are not going to get equal value for Crawford if the players they want are a few years away from being eligible for arbitration.
The concept of trading Penny, Tomko, and Hendrickson for Crawford is based on the Rays being able to retrade them one at a time to three teams in an effort to get what they want for Crawford.
For LA to pull Crawford, they'd have to give up Billingsley and Kemp.
I am not trying to say that the trade concept I expressed in 155 is realistic. It reflects how I would like the Dodgers to proceed in obtaining a proven player instead of giving up their own young talent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbTO0GlONU
Then again, he does seem to be signing all of Boras' clients, so...
Besides, why use good grammar and logic when to goal is to dazzle with bullshit?
Dad! He said a bad word!
A lot of people who work in sabermetrics are good writers. I think the people who put together Boras's handouts are neither. They are likely sports agent wannabes.
And in the pecking order of "pitchers I wouldn't trade", Meloan falls behind Billingsley, Broxton, Kershaw, Elbert, and Greg Miller. I think you have to consider trading the 6th best pitcher in your organization if it was in the right deal.
http://www.vincasa.com/indexscreenplay.html
My point is not that Meloan is not tradeable but that he should not be traded whether as a starter or as a reliever.
He could get some time with the Dodgers in 2007 in middle relief but by 2008, I think he will be seen as a starter.
This comment from Ned as reported by LAT seems odd:
Gonzo good for 35 doubles, admits power is gone, good clubhouse guy. Real point of Gonzo was to make Kemp and Ethier compete for playing time;
I won't belabor the 35 doubles. What is odd is Colleti's motivational theory. "Kemp, I'm spending $7 million on Gonzo so you'll try even harder to take his job. You're welcome." "Andre, if you can show me more than a broken-down player three years past his prime, the job's yours."
Elvis Andrus
Kevin Slowey (a pitcher!)
Felix Pie
Homer Bailey
That seems logical but Meloan might wind up being number one on that list. I would like to see what happens this year and maybe adjust in July but go after someone like Wells when he becomes a free agent if it is obvious that the Dodgers need him.
Sorry about that Malone/Meloan comment.
Remember, when Meloan makes it to The Show, do not call him "The Sheriff."
They should make the Simpson movie based out of Snook.
I love it.
Your awful excited about a pitcher who has thrown threw less then 100 innings in his professional career by the age of 22. His 2006 was a big leap forward and he only threw 52 innings. I'd like to see him dominate AA for more then 10 IP before he becomes the next big thing. Until the Dodgers stop babying him and give him some innings we have no idea what we have with him because his work has been limited. If were going to trade anyone of the names I've heard floated he'd be number one on my list.
And another thing: I fear for Andrew's longevity.
I'm with you. If that is all Ned thinks he's getting from Gonzo, and he wanted to pay 7Mill for it then I'm flabbergasted. The career averages of Marlon Anderson suggest he could do that in Dodger Stadium. Heck, D Young could probably do that. Can't wait for us to play the Mets with the wet noodle outfield. Should be a joy.
I love Neds big moves(Furcal, Nomar(2006), Schmidt) his little moves not so much.
Oh well, dying young is a big part of "edgy"
For Crawford, I fear for what the Rays would ask for. Just because it'd have an extremely eerie Chuck LaMar-feel to it.
The Rays have no need to trade Rocco, seeing as he's making only 750 K(due to his lofty expectations for himself in 2006 when negotiating his own contract). That, in turn, is making himself more valuable.
Crawford isn't getting traded, Friedman has repeatedly said that he's "off the table". Nothing beyond a total rip-off would land a team Crawford. So no Penny, Hendrickson, Tomko-for-Crawford trade would work
Well, we can rest easy now. What are the chances of Colletti getting ripped off by Tampa Friggin' Bay?
I have wondered in the past if any DTer has found him/herself cheering for "Lucille II" at the ballpark. And how the normal people at the game reacted.
See previous post Re Woman with new checkbook. Or as Sir Hillary said,"Because he was there".
One nice thing about working with other geeks is that they pretty much get references that range from kierkegaard, to the simpsons, to what's the best throttle body for a 67 Chevelle.
I wear my Ghame Over, but even my wife thinks my Team Depo shirt has something to to do with Home Depo... "did you work on some project with Home Depot?"
I guess I still have much to learn.
http://tinyurl.com/ylqjun
All I can say is I hope Ranger65 doesn't neglect his job blogging as much as I neglect mine.
Duh
"Always side with the hoochie"
Dr. Percival Cox
and btw, andrew, if you actually did move to snook, tx, you'd probably do plenty of "fleshing out" of your own.
Cincinnati's chili is a very unusual looking dish. One I was not brave enough to try.
I couldn't really understand what the proprietor was saying about two pound steaks, but I took it he was bragging about how inexpensive his were. Which, well, bonus!
"We don't deal in ounces, we deal in pounds"
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2006/12/attention_teams.php
Why am I not surprised. Andrew, Andrew, Andrew...
http://tinyurl.com/y8aopk
It's a prototypical Slate article.
I hope Ned does what he says now and won't rush into any haphhazard deals. For the first time in a long time, we actually have lots of leverage where teams should be coming to us. We are holding 4 kings in our hand and can afford to be choosy. Also, maybe we need to go into Spring training and see how all the pieces fit and hopefully Penny comes out strong and increases his value as it took a big hit at the end of last year. Yes, we don't have a wealth of power, but we do have some speed, and high average guys that are gap hitters and we can manufacture enough runs to support the starters. Schmidt and Lowe can go deep into games when they are on. If the rest of the staff can give us 6 and sometimes 7, we should be okay with or without Gagne. I do hope Brazoban has come up with an off-speed pitch though. Our team will not be as strong defensively, especially the "Venus de Milo" arms in left and center and Kent's lack of range at his age concerns me somewhat. I say let's sit back and enjoy the holidays for now and get back to fretting over our team in January.
Happy Holidays to everybody at DT!! You all have made this an interesting year.
I always thought a typical Slate article would be something like:
"Why the USA should have lost World War II"
or
"Why deadly plagues are good for people"
Warning: very coarse language, especially by our own Neddy.
Richard Jefferson?
Hmmmm.......
He sells real estate now.
http://www.mattluke.com/
Instead of pointing out that the man has flaws, it has to become a polemic against him. I get that the writer thinks Wooden is overvalued, but he's gone too far in the other direction. It is not evil or hypocritical for a coach to dictate how you put on your socks, etc.
In the real world, no.
You'd think a guy that preached the pyramid of success, would have enough integrity to run a clean program....
Is the "its ok to cheat as long as you dont get caught and no one gets hurt" really a virtue worth teaching?
The thing with the story is that the writer only mentions Sam Gilbert in passing and doesn't really focus on that aspect of his career, which is the flaw.
Instead, he goes in to a really long discussion of how Wooden doesn't understand how basketball should be played now.
123 - Hey Rocc! When do we tell the DTers about who the Rays brought in to try and win 1B this year?
160 - Are you sure this wasn't one designed for [insert "Pat Gillick" or "Steve Phillips" here]?
208 - And whatever happened to Christina (sp)?
247 - Getting one past the Barbaro Blog censors?
Gotta love the internet
But just because the flaw is there doesn't mean that one can't, for lack of a better word, love the man.
In public or to himself, Wooden would never call himself perfect, or regard himself with the reverance others do. Same with Vin. But none of us are perfect. If you need to be perfect to be revered, we're all in trouble.
Wow, do the Royals really want to unload Angel Berroa? I like him a lot, definitely more than Betemit.
I don't think the writer was anything but sincere. I just think he was sincerely off-target.
It's very Slate-like. It's goal is to be contrarian.
Also-- Ned, if you're out there, sit on your hands.
Once upon a time Berroa held some promise. To bad his 2003 was a career peak and it has been downhill very fast since then. He can't even hang his hat on his defensive prowness as Dewan has him rated going into 2006 as the 2nd worse defensive SS in baseball.
Looking forward to watching Gordon/Butler mash for KC. You may not win much in the next several years but your team should be fun to watch.
Luis Gonzalez is now the face of the Dodgers based on the media reaction to his signing.
Apparently, all those doughnuts have shortened Wooden's lifespan.
Time to change mine.
I left out at least three words in that post.
Insert ones you think would make sense or just play Madlibs.
Do you still live in KC?
But so was Todd Hollandsworth.
Gordon is too fast, right now, for the nickname Gordo, but, is there maybe a AAA franchise near Snook?
Give the man a break. He's retracted his desire to pick up Berroa. It was based on incomplete info.
If only Ned Colletti, bothered to do such things.
http://www.baseballmusings.com/archives/018645.php
It's a little suspect, though, since his RF ratings have Juan Encarnacion (the greatest player of all time) behind four guys who aren't fit to wash his car.
The attack on Wooden wasn't an attack on Wooden, it was an attack on Conservatism (which, you know, whatever...I'm not for or against "conservatism", but that's what the article was). It was veiled, but it was an attack on "rigidity, bureaucracy, paternalism, and anal retentiveness."
As far as the Sam Gilbert stuff, it's been thrown around forever, vaguely, without much speficity. It's a nice little shot at an otherwise amazing human being.
Color me unimpressed.
.288avg .336obp .492slug .828ops
.278avg .366obp .478slug .845ops
Career numbers for Trot Nixon and Vernon Wells. Trot on bottom. I'll take Trot.
Got the location right, but I think I'd rather be Nancy Pelosi. I see a huge billboard congratulating her every day on the way to work.
Its been a week, still hard to believe that UCLA won that game.
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