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Times Calendar Weekend deputy editor Kevin Bronson has adapted his Buzz Bands music column into a blog. (I got an e-mail about this right after seeing Kevin Roderick post about it on L.A. Observed.)
But I have a little more information on Bronson, stemming from the fact that I've known him for 20 years now, ever since he was sports editor at the Pasadena Star-News and offered me an internship for the summer after my freshman year in college, before giving me my first post-Stanford job. It's not exactly a secret, but Bronson has some serious fun playing and coaching baseball in the L.A. Senior Men's Baseball League conveniently, as far as I'm concerned, for a team called the Brooklyn Dodgers (though Bronson, he would hasten to remind me, is cut from Cardinal cloth).
He had some pretty impressive play last season for a 50-year-old pitcher/shortstop playing in a 25-and-older league. He bats leadoff and is also a No. 2 starter who hit 80 mph on the radar gun twice at the national MSBL World Series in Phoenix in November.
"Well, it's just adult baseball," Bronson said. "I would think there's a lot more athleticism involved in something like road cycling ... but you'd be surprised at some of the people who play in our league (Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Bret Saberhagen and Scott Erickson, in the upper division, for instance; a lot of B-list musicians and actors in the lower divisions). It's a baseball junkie's heaven."
Jokes about Erickson aside, who could argue?
I wouldn't even try. I'm one of those cowards who would just try to draw a walk.
(You needn't respond to this, I just found it germane)
Downside of Jon's having real writing jobs: an unblogerly concern for copyright law.
That's the spirit!
Hey, they guy is moderately humorous on VH1 specials...
He shouldn't have been standing there.
"I don't talk about those things," he said.
AKA "I'm not here to talk about the future"
I wonder if he wears those socks with the sandal slits too. I bet he does.
Thus ending a long relationship with the LA Dodgers. He was a good man in the Dodger bullpen, very friendly.
I made one additional effort to reach Drew by telephone to find out what was really happening. Three Drews are listed in the Hahira, Ga., telephone directory. I picked one and told the woman who answered that I was looking for J. D.
"I'm his mom," she said.
Did she know what was happening with her son's contract? "No, I don't," she said, "not at the present time."
I am not sure at what point being a good journalist ends and being a bad human being begins, but maybe Murray does.
Yes, the deal is taking longer than usual. Maybe it's really in trouble. Anyone can see these possibilities. Until there's a resolution either way, isn't that enough to know? I don't quite get why Chass is on such a crusade.
If someone called my mother to ask for her opinion on any of my work negotiations, it would be utterly ridiculous.
Because he's an idiot.
Of course, so did Ripken and Gwynn, so that part is good.
What about Mark McGwire, the guy who started out as a "Bash Brother" with the Oakland As (hitting a game-winning 3-run HR in the 1988 World Series) before going to St. Louis and hitting a bunch of HRs, breaking Roger Maris' single-season HR record, and then coming under significant suspicion of PED use?
Any mention of him?
I think Bob got distracted by the Frank Robinson news
I also mildly dislike anyone who puts Bruce Sutter in the Hall of Fame and not Gossage.
I know there are a ton of possibilities of how this shakes out, but I'm curious... how many people voted for Ripken but not Gwynn? I understand (but disagree with) turning in a blank ballot. I would like to hear someone's explanation of why Ripken deserves election and Gwynn doesn't.
 it was actually in orange county. just look up NABA, you should find someting in your area. i tried out for an LA league before finding the one nearer to where i lived.
 probably he didn't call her on purpose, but mentioning that she is listed and in what directory in his article means she will probably have to change her phone number now, which is a big annoyance.
1. "Iron Man"
2. Hit HR in All-Star game near end of career
3. Steely blue eyes
He still should be in, but I don't think he deserved the seventh highest vote total.
Bobby Grich should be in the HOF.
Because the BBWAA is the sole arbiter of all that is right and good in baseball. And proves, yet again, that aside from the Philosopher King, Gammons, and a select few others, most sportswriters are embarrassing.
It should be said that anyone who didn't vote for Ripken needs to have their voting privilages revoked.
Maybe SABR should start its own Hall of Fame. Let's get Bob to work on that.
He should never be allowed to vote again.
While not voting for Blyleven is a terrible lapse in judgement, there's at least some (bad) arguments to keep him out. I don't see any reason to not vote for Ripken.
I guess there's a reason we didn't call it "pleasurage"...
How he has managed to emerge almost completely unscathed from PED suspicion is beyond me.
I think Jayson Stark voted for Blyleven for the first time this year.
Guess that means he switched last year.
She hung up one me.
Yeah, she doesn't like misogynists. Not that she has ever hung up on me...
When SABR held a poll to pick its own top 100 players of the 20th Century, there were at least three ballots that didn't include Babe Ruth.
I'm guessing there was at least one ballot that didn't include Frank Robinson...
I believe it was one big multiple choice ballot with several hundred names on it.
I presume that Ruth was left off either by mistake or by someone who refused to vote for anyone prior to 1947.
SABR has a lot of old crochety guys in it. I don't think people realize that. I'm 41 and I'm certain that I am well below the median age for members.
I'm well below the crotchetiness median.
I'm below the crocheting median too.
But you're above the crotch (height*) median...
*Other measurements will remain unaddressed.
I want to congratulate both Tony and Cal on reaching the HOF with class and integrity. Gossage, Rice and Blyleven also deserve to be there but only Gossage seems close enough to enter.
So, Boggs isn't eligible yet?
It depends upon how the HOF wants to handle the Veterans voting. They keep changing it.
Better to keep your mouth shut, and look stupid, than to open it, and remove all doubt.
Just your HOF ignorance, but on the bright side you and I are maybe the only two here who know who Billy Zoom was and that counts for something.
NABA - National Association of Black Accountants, Inc.
Same here. FJM gives the following advise:
Honestly, baseball fans: it is time to stop giving a @%$^ about the Baseball Hall of Fame. I've been there. I'm sure most of you have. The Museum is fine and everything -- it's got stuff about baseball in it; how bad could it be? -- but the Hall is ugly. And kind of boring. You can read and discover anything written on them boring plaques on the much prettier internet. Unlike the Hall, you can even bring your sons and daughters to the internet for free these days.
And most importantly, inclusion into this ugly, boring Hall is voted on by gentlemen like Mike Celizic and Paul Ladewski.
Nothing wrong with that. Baseball doesn't automatically deserve your support: it has to earn it.
A man doesn't automatically get my respect. He has to get down in the dirt and beg for it.
D4P held a Dutch auction to find his wife.
Just like the Google IPO.
You mean like my brother.
His article has dropped out of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch archive thankfully.
"Somewhere in Southern California, Mark McGwire is saying, "This must be my lucky day." Either that or, "Can I reach the green in two?"
McGwire has picked up the coveted endorsement of Pete Rose for the Baseball Hall of Fame. Rose, baseball's persona non grata, thinks he should be in the Hall of Fame, too. Who'd have guessed?
I'm sure McGwire appreciates the thought. Now, if he can just get the endorsements of Denny McLain, Dwight Gooden, Rafael Palmeiro and Jose Canseco, he'll be a lock.
You know, if Cal Ripken wanted to give him a plug, that would be one thing. But getting a thumbs up from Rose is a punch line waiting to happen. (Thank you.)
I don't have a vote, so my opinion doesn't amount to a whole lot on this, but I don't think I would have voted for McGwire even if it was absolutely, categorically proved that he never had taken anything (and, I should add, regardless of what Rose said). I've long been against the 500-homer mandatory-induction cutoff, especially since we're fast approaching a time when the number of people reaching these levels will be more than we can handle.
My school of thought, which I first saw espoused by Bill James, is, "Were you ever considered the best player in the game?" I think that's a good place to start. I don't know that at any point in McGwire's career he was considered the best player in the game.
I still think Roger Maris belongs in the Hall of Fame. He was more than just 61 homers. He was the MVP twice, which means that for two years, he was considered the best player in baseball (or at least the best in one league). Not a whole lot of people can say that. He was an All-Star seven times. He did more than just hit home runs."
Not only did McGwire hit home runs, he got on base (the most important thing in all of baseball) at a better clip than "Mr. Greatest Pure Hitter Since Ted Williams."
Mark McGwire's are.
As far as Tom's starting point goes, I feel like in the 70-HR era, McGwire was considered by many the best player in his game.
I can't believe it.
And do we really have limits on the number of people we can handle...? What does that even mean? It's not like we have to balance them on our backs or something...
He's a big kid. He can take it.
He's heavy? And your brother?
Actually he's really skinny.
He doesn't like to eat.
Did he ever have to show your mom how the little piggies eat...?
But the Dbacks nabbing RJ should give Colletti reason enough not to deal Penny. They've got a good staff over there...the Pads always have a good staff, and a rotation along the lines of Schmidt, Penny, Lowe, Wolf, Bills would match up nicely with the rest of the division.
I never picture Jack Morris as a guy who would develop a cult following, but I guess the 1991 World Series really got into people's psyches.
And I don't even know what it is...
167 Agree. He was far better than Rice.
Is Bob going to get one of those pretty new iPhones?
I think the D-Backs could be our biggest competition. Their offense is stacked with young talent and their pitching is much better than it was last year. They may still be a year off, but they have a chance to be a threat.
I'm just figuring out my Blackberry. I don't think I'm ready for the iPhone. We'll let Philip Michaels test drive one for a while.
If he had played 5 more mediocre years to round out his career, he'd merit some serious consideration.
NationalChamps.net came out with theirs and UCLA was ranked # 15.
I am going to go with Rivals rankings.
I agree just being better than those two should not get you in. However, being better than those two should get you more votes than those two.
On another note, I just heard on ESPN five names that are in the Hall that received as low of a vote total in their first year of eligibility as McGwire did. Two of those names, Drysdale and Snider, were a surprise to me I guess.
CF - Kemp, Ethier
LF - Kemp, Anderson, Loney
RF - Kemp, Loney
1B - Loney, Saenz
2B - Anderson
SS - R.Martinez, Robles... Yikes!
3B - LaRoche, Saenz, Nomar
C - Lieberthal
SP - Guo
Injuries would derail the Padres and DBacks more than they would the Dodgers imho.
It's over health insurance coverage and pay increases.
UTLA wants 9% pay raise, LAUSD is offering 4%.
Amazing how young Bill Clinton looked, just ten years ago.
Enter the Ninja...
Well, sure. And signing me would also provide you with another option on your staff. A very risky one, true, but an option.
I'm always on Russ Ortiz alert.
Carrying around hula hoops accomplishes the same as asking do you know how to make a turkey anxious.
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