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Changes at Dodger Stadium, as reported by Bill Shaikin of the Times:
The Dodgers advanced to the playoffs last season and sold a record 3.76 million tickets along the way. But ticket demand could soften, and so the team should be wary of raising the price of the cheapest tickets and limiting their supply for fear of losing families, particularly at a time children might prefer to play video games or extreme sports, said Cal State Fullerton marketing professor Thomas Boyd.
"The lowest-priced ticket should be about introducing your next generation of fans to the game, not just about filling seats," Boyd said.
Update: Inside the Dodgers notes that there is still an $8 advance ticket available, so you can still get in the ballpark for single digits.
Without beer, eating 30 dollars worth of food seems doable, but unpleasent. Two dogs, large drink, nachos, and a frozen malt comes out to about 23 dollars.
In theory, couldn't you just grab 100 boxes of Cracker Jack, take it home, and be set for life?
What are you lauging at pretzels? You're next.
3 - I thought about that.
And in those days, the Top Deck was unreserved seating.
And we didn't have Diamondvision. We just had "the message board" and it would light up with things like "CHARGE" in large letters and we thought it was cool. We'd eagerly await the words to spelled out on the board letter by letter.
We didn't know what the out of town scores were. We didn't know about the pitch counts or speed.
The air was dirtier. The hot dogs had even more nitrites. Richard Nixon was president. And Walter Alston quietly stared out at the field all the time. And I wondered why nobody seemed to like Richie Allen.
Field level and Loge - $3.50
Reserved level - $2.50
General admission - $1.50
The discounted children's tickets came later.
You know what happened to people who were big fans of Richie Allen?
THEY DIED!
At that game, I consumed $42 worth of food at Dodger Stadium. I don't know what came over me. It was my first time at Dodger Stadium, not that that is any good reason.
Reserved seats went from $3 to $3.50 and parking went from $1.50 to $2. General admission was $2 for adults and $1 for kids.
Second, according to the Group Sales page, you can buy tickets in the All You Can Eat Pavillion for $20.00 for 43 games if you can get 29 other people who can eat at least one hot dog, some peanuts and a large Coke.
I actually like sitting by myself at a game. Either I'm antisocial or just painfully shy.
I've never been to a game (or the movies) by myself. I bet it's immensely liberating, not having to interact with other carbon-based units.
I go to the movies by myself a lot. If I have to wait to find a friend who wants to see the same movie as me, I'd never be seeing a movie.
Heaven.
By myself.
Making it not unlike Disneyland.
Later on last year I started keeping score again at the games, I had scorebook that I could bring to every game and I would dutifully fill it out. (One side note, this particular scorebook wasn't really made for extra inning games so the 4+1 game is a really fun to look at.)
I don't really mind going to games by myself because you do get the shared group experience (technically, I went to UCLA/USC game by myself because my friend's seat was one section over and I didn't see him again until we met at restaurant 2 hours after the game ended) and if I have my radio, there's always Vin. It was at one of my early arrivals where I discovered that the pregame shows are all pretaped because while Charley was talking to me on the radio, he was drinking a soda or something in the booth, he may be talented but he's no Paul Winchell.
Ironically, the guy I went to the 4+1 game is a Yankee fan who had not been to more than 3-4 games at Dodger Stadium and he never wanted to leave so that's why we were still there even after Saito blew up in the 9th.
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You stay classy, Barry Bonds
And if Paul Ladewski wants to remove all the players who took amphetamines from the Hall of Fame, he better bring a forklift to carry out a lot of plaques.
But Pud Galvin stays.
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MLB just shot itself in the foot and then washed the blood off in a public toilet.
What bull honkey!
I just googled the drug policy and I did not realize amphetamines had different rules.
I understand the assumption that raising the low-end ticket prices will discourage families from attending. But from what I've seen of the ambience in the bleachers and top deck the past few seasons, I wouldn't want to take my family there anyway, what with the general lack of civility that prevails there now.
It had an charming answer man named Rob, and was run by a reckless ladies man named Jim Westman. All the gals loved Jim. The two wacky rivals, Drew and Dforp, were always at each other's throat. It was a place where everybody knew your screen name.
Christmas II: This Time it's Personal
Every player will be tested at least twice for amphetamines during 2006. Players whose urine test includes evidence of amphetamines will face mandatory evaluation and follow-up testing after the first offense. The second positive test will lead to a 25-game suspension and the third will be 80 games. Selig will decide the penalty for a fourth offense.
Ironically, Jason Grimsley is quoted in the article about how greenies have been known to be a part of the game since "Ball Four." And Bonds was seen drinking a cup of coffee prior to a game.
In what way are Barry and Flanders alike?
They both feel the need for speed.
Hopefully the reserve level hasn't risen too much because that's my go-to section for family four packs and give-away days in general.
Out of curiosity, is a hot dog nothing more than balonia shaped into a tube?
As for seeing movies by yourself, every time I did that, it ended up being an awful movie, the last being "The Price of Milk," which was very nice to look at, but also very stupid.
Anyone who wants cheap seats to a Dodger game in a decent section just needs to visit Ebay, it is very easy to buy 4 seats at about 1/2 the price of retail because the season ticket holders get an excellent break from the day of game price and they sell the weekday tickets at a great discount on ebay.
"Homme avec un air menaçant" and everyone stays away.
$40 for all you can eat? They better be grilling steaks back there.
1. Is there just one, or is there a section?
2. Is Kobayashi eligible?
I don't think I'll ever sit at the $40 buffet pavillion as I've never spent half that on food. Having said that, I'd like to know when they begin and end buffet service. Maybe I can squeeze two meals in.
In fact, with the ticket price hike, I'll probably go to a few less games this year. Last and previous years I would, I guess on the fly, go to games after work for $6 bucks.
52-if you buy the seats early you pay ticketmaster fees (or you drive up days before and pay for gas) for your lack of spontaneity. I suppose, adjusted for inflation, the prices are about the same since 1962, but still.
One of the reasons I like to go alone is that it seems easy to start talking to the people around you and unlike the world outside the stadium, it's fun for me (and seems to be for them) because we all know we're Dodger fans.
When I did this, I have to admit I wasn't big on conversation with people around me ... I'm one of those introverts. But I like being with people, even if I don't always want to chew the (all-you-can-eat) fat with them.
Aren't we all...?
Me, I'm afraid of using the wrong fork wherever I go. Even if they don't serve food.
Boy I sound like a loner. I'm really not! I swear! Intovert... well, probably, yeah.
This ditz presented me with a $400 bill.
Seats were field level about 40 yards past first base. Temperature was around 104. I was drunk and dehydrated. I've never paid so much to make myself so miserable.
I'm thinking about prostituting myself just to make up the money. I deserve to be punished.
I didn't count them. I didn't want to do the math. My initial impression was that there were too many. What's the verdict...?
Raises hand.
Ugh. Quit your day job.
Question, does one have to be a subscriber to hear your interview on that site from a few days ago?
Which is better?
Cancelled
Canceled
63 You didn't mention Sonya Thomas. In any case, they're about speed and baseball is a languid three-hour game - how many Dodger Dogs could someone pack away in three hours? (And Kobayashi-Thomas RF Pavillion has a bit of a ring to it.)
Last season, I wanted to go the August 13th game but my girlfriend was out of town and most of my baseball fan friends were busy so I went by myself. Great game with Maddux and the Martin walk-off. Got a seat for $6 in the top deck but the best part was that I won one of those 55" HDTVs they were giving out. Imagine my shock when my seat location was announced over the loud speakers. Needless to say, I thanked my girlfriend for not being there.
I think it was Andrew who asked in a recent post if the whole world had gone mad.
Seeing things like the acid bit and then running across what's linked to below makes you think maybe the answer is yes. Or else we just find out more about more of this kind of stuff these days.
This coach--great example, he--definitely will be remembered by his players. But somehow I don't think they'll be dropping by in later years to talk about old times.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/10706657/detail.html
From my experience teaching on top of all that the kids show up to college functionally illiterate as well. If the world hasn't gone mad, Colorado certainly has.
http://tinyurl.com/y5czmq
But of course, Jon wrote about this connection last year and you can find it here.
http://tinyurl.com/yeahqg
vr, Xei
It's the City of L.A. that won't let the Dodgers have more than 56,000 people as part of the facility's condtional use permit.
Being there alone was great as I could focus on the game. It was a good game to go to because of all the dodgers and ex-dodgers that played.
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Never attended a game or a movie alone. I want to talk with someone about the game as I see it and about the movie immediately afterwards.
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I prefer cancellled.
He is the Barry Zito of futbol.
Unless you're from certain parts of the South, in which case it's a 2-syllable word, accented on the first: Spay-uhld.
Sadly, UCLA got Texas. I wanted Kansas, but the Big 12 probably realized it was better for Kansas to play a team that plays just like them in Arizona.
vr, Xei
Ms. Wie is currently 9-over through 16, in 97th (last) place, a mere 16 strokes off the lead, with roughly one-third of the field yet to tee off.
ACTA: I'm starting Opening Day thinking that I'm going to win. On paper and payroll, things are not the same. But none of their guys have three cojones. Everyone has the same two cojones.
From www.baseballamerica.com
It's Christmas II, so I'm trying to keep a brave face about it, but the hula hoops--they haunt me!
Symbolic type stuff.
Or women.
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So, they're not like snowflakes?
*Completely made up, but perhaps more satisfying.
And nutrition
I like that it costs four hundred dollars to teach anybody how to hula hoop. If I could stand children, I'd be all over the student inservice market.
So, what's the problem with the hula hoops? Why are the teachers angry about them? Other than that they're silly, I mean. How are they a labor dispute? My specific question was not how they came to have access to the hula hoops, but what it meant to carry one on the picket line.
The hula hoops are just a "We're walking out and taking our apparatus with us" thing. UTLA wants a nine percent pay increase, LAUSD is offering four.
Also, I'd be happy to lead the staff development session in firebombing. For $800. Just ask Wendy Selin for my email address.
Read the NCLB Act for more details.
1. Lab fees
2. Enron
3. Vitamins
4. Student inservices
5. Fortune tellers
To read the rest of this statement, please buy the fifth edition of this comment ($129).
vr, Xei
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The Dodgers have four in the top 34, with Elbert the highest at #16. Any idea where Elbert and Kershaw will be starting this year, AA? The Reds and Royals each had two in the top 8. Looks like the Yankees finally have a top notch prospect. It was it's farm system that really built the nucleeeeeus of it's winning teams. vr, Xei
Andrew if you got all worked up by the Hula Hoops wait until you see the Slinkies they have geared up for the walkout.
LA is pretty top heavy - 4 in their top-35, none in the rest of the top-100.
As much as I adore all-you-can-eat anything, I thought about it carefully, and there is still no way I will sit in the right field pavilion.
Then out of stupidity we stopped by King Taco on the way home. I missed the next 3 days of work with stomach pains.
Jon your interview was good. You're a thoughtful little dude. Perhaps too thoughtful at times, as it would serve you better to be a bit more verbally decisive.
Not your fault entirely. The introvert glides with pen in hand, then stumbles over his own tongue.
Anyway, thanks for not being the typical sporting lunk. I could read your twists and turns all day.
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http://truebluela.com/story/2007/1/11/235250/696
2. I have only been to a ballgame by myself once and found it boring (but I don't keep score). I have gone to one movie by myself: Lion King. Bad choice to go to a kids movie by yourself-people think you belong on Megan's List. (Everyone was going on about it and my wife was very pregnant at the time and was going to bed at 7:30 pm.). I do like to go out to eat by myself, especially breakfast. And yes, I like to be left alone. I don't understand people who have an actual fear of eating alone in a restaurant.
3. 94 As for the world going mad and a student putting acid in his teachers water I guess I have no room to criticize. When I was in 5th grade I was the milk monitor and I put kaopectate in my teachers milk. I thought I was laugh riot until I got busted--after that not so funny. That was a long meeting with the principal, the teacher, my parents and later my Dad's belt.
Occaisionally, if I'm up early and have an extra minute, I'll cut out a picture and stash it in my older son's lunch box -- usually a cool rocket, or some sports shot, or a really gross bug. Whatever I can find lying around. Yesterday, I cut out a pic from an advertisement in SI of a really serious looking little boy getting ready to throw a pitch. Was quite pleased with myself for finding it. So he gets home, and really liked it, and then says the tennis player was really cool too.
Tennis player?
I take out the pic, and on the back was one of those glam-shots of Maria Sharapova. Oy vey.
Thank Choi she was at least holding a tennis racket!
I must admit, I don't have any pictures I can cut out, as I have no sports magazines lying around. Don't think they want something from Sunset or Real Simple. Fair use lets me print stuff out from the web though, and the bonus is there will be nothing on the back.
They also have a post up about the all-you-can eat seats. If you enjoy the sarcastic Deadspin comments in general, they're even better when they're about the Dodgers.
I also wonder if the family environment they're creating in the no-beer-zone is consistent with an allyoucaneat environment.
Or are they adding beer back to the RF pavillion?
I doubt that the Dodgers would ever go back to serving beer in the pavilions. That would be a security nightmare.
Or maybe people will behave better if they have access to beer there.
But I'm an 18th Amendment guy, not a 21st Amendment guy.
I'm also big on the 3rd Amendment and I don't want to see any members of the Army stationed in the RF pavilion.
(Or did I post this comment simply because I forgot to use the term "Venn diagram" in the first one?)
Given that they're apparently arranging a buffet-style distribution of food in Mayberry RFP, I think families might get into the groove. So whatever seats you might lose to the beer-drinkers might be quickly gained back.
I mean, look, this is a work-in-progress. If things are going horribly awry, they'll adjust or scrap it.
It appears to have gotten nationwide attention though - have you noticed?
Another question. Can a group sit together and be some AYCE and some regular, or is the pavillion dedicated to AYCE or divided into zones. In other words, can Dad and Uncle Tummy buy all you can eat seats, while Mom and moffets 1 and 2 buy regular seats?
I favor the last solution.
Can I take an informal poll of DT and ask how many of you would patronize a premium wine concession?
Once I saw Andrew at True Blue L.A. predict a date of demise, I decided to start an Olmedo Saenz Pavilion Deadpool and took the liberty of listing Andrew's and LAT's guesses. I hope they don't mind.
Please feel free to add your guess as well as take a crack at our Sudoku, which I haven't been able to figure out yet. ("Sons of Steve Garvey" is linked on the sidebar--thanks, Jon!)
There is serious debate in the wine industry regarding screw-cap vs. cork. Apparently screw-caps "fail" less often than cork, but there is less certainty about how screw-caps affect aging in the bottle. At this point, I wouldn't be averse to screw-capped wine for "drink 'em soon" bottlings.
209 - LOL
Because I'm guessing your traditional stadium seat might not enjoy the strain brought on by the ample tookus of an AYCE aficionado. Nor would a scrawny dope like me enjoy being sandwiched into a seat between two such tookuses.
Not that every AYCE aficionado is necessarily chunky, of course. I'm just sayin'...
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