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Dodgers Walk Eight, Win
2007-03-03 13:24
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Today's boxscore

Comments (210)
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2007-03-03 13:27:42
1.   Gagne55
First Comment. That is all.
2007-03-03 13:28:42
2.   Greg Brock
I'm just glad Kuo is pitching from a windup. And in good form early on.
2007-03-03 13:34:21
3.   trainwreck
See those stat mongers know nothing. Walking batters does not matter.

Brock, how come you want Kuo to work from wind up? Because of stolen bases?

2007-03-03 13:39:33
4.   Greg Brock
I can't think of a single good starting pitcher who has ever been anything close to relevant while pitching exclusively from the stretch.

I can think of a couple really bad ones. And one was left handed! And a Dodger! And Asian!

2007-03-03 13:44:12
5.   Jon Weisman
Nomo threw his no-hitter from the stretch.
2007-03-03 13:50:50
6.   Steve
This just in off the sports wire: Mark Hendrickson is not, repeat not, going to have a 63.00 ERA.

This should make us all feel much better, apparently.

2007-03-03 13:51:07
7.   caseybarker
I was just thinking that. But that was out of neccessity because of the weather.

I was disappointed at the walks but glad to see Brad Penny's GB/FB ratio was high.

2007-03-03 13:56:03
8.   Greg Brock
5 Doc Ellis threw one on LSD.

Stretch + LSD= Perfect Game?

2007-03-03 14:06:49
9.   trainwreck
Wow.

The Ohio State commercial makes the UCLA one look cool.

2007-03-03 14:09:52
10.   Woody
Watched the game on MLB.com premium. MLB.com advertised premium as having twice the clarity compared to last years streaming video. I thought it was worse. Not that the price was significantly different.

The Mets' announcers Keith "can you help me move my furniture" Hernandez and Gary Cohen seemed to think that "Hu" was about the funniest name that they'd ever heard. They really wanted to know why he wasn't "on first".

Larry Bigbee for team MVP!

2007-03-03 14:14:49
11.   Benaiah
Can anyone who saw the game tell me a little about Kuo's walks? Obviously that is the last thing besides an arm injury that anyone wants to see. With the Guo-ster he is a number one or a number five depending on the control.
2007-03-03 14:26:17
12.   berkowit28
10 I answered this in a thread lower down. I phoned them up and waited for them t answer. They confirmed that during Spring Training, there's no Premium, only regular MLB.TV. That's what you're seeing - regular, like last year's. Premium will start in April.

When I pointed out that they should not be charging Premium price for regular, they offered to refund. They wouldn't give me a $5 rebate, but instead will refund the whole amount (I didn't ask for that). I presume I'll stop getting access and will have to register again for regular - I would have just left things as they were.

I'm only getting it for ST anyway, since Dodgers will be blacked out in regular season.

2007-03-03 14:35:03
13.   Greg Brock
Brent Musberger wants to start the rumor that Tony Bennett will be a candidate at Minnesota.

Brent is starting the rumor that everybody's been talking about for three months.

2007-03-03 14:35:14
14.   Bob Timmermann
I believe Don Larsen's WS perfect game was pitched out of the stretch. Or it could have been that he just didn't use the big windup that pitchers did at the time.
2007-03-03 14:36:55
15.   Steve
Since it's Obvious Day, let me point out that Tony Bennett is 80, and his touring schedule makes it difficult to keep Sunday afternoons open.
2007-03-03 14:39:58
16.   Greg Brock
14 He pitched from the windup in that game, he just had a small windup. What stays in my mind is that Larsen talked about having a no-hitter during the game and The Mick told him to STFU.
2007-03-03 14:41:41
17.   Bob Timmermann
The battle for 5th place in the Pac-10 is going down to the wire.

Fasten your seat belts folks!

2007-03-03 14:49:03
18.   regfairfield
6 You try writing something positive about Mark Hendrickson.
2007-03-03 14:49:54
19.   Steve
No.
2007-03-03 14:52:21
20.   Greg Brock
What a comeback by the Cardinal!

But I want you guys to play Southern Cal :-(

2007-03-03 14:53:47
21.   bhsportsguy
20 Arizona is going to be one tough 10 seed.
2007-03-03 14:53:52
22.   Bob Timmermann
But if USC beats Washington State, then the Trojans would play either ASU or UW.
2007-03-03 15:00:44
23.   Greg Brock
Ohio State makes an 8-0 run and leads by two with 1:30 left.

And Michigan just missed a dunk.

2007-03-03 15:02:13
24.   Greg Brock
And missed the front end of a one and one.
2007-03-03 15:03:54
25.   Greg Brock
How to blow a game. Nice job, Wolverines.
2007-03-03 15:06:14
26.   trainwreck
If Wolverines would have won it would have basically sured up the number 1 RPI for UCLA.
2007-03-03 15:07:42
27.   trainwreck
I am amazed how long Michigan held the league. I figured they were going to blow it a long time ago.
2007-03-03 15:09:41
28.   Bob Timmermann
I hear that "Radenovic" means "money" in Serbo-Croatian.
2007-03-03 15:10:51
29.   Andrew Shimmin
Stanford fans should storm the court. Sure they lost, but they came close! And they really tried hard, I bet.
2007-03-03 15:20:06
30.   Steve
I would be extraordinarily pleased if BYU drew Arizona in the first round.
2007-03-03 15:22:17
31.   Steve
Of course, I would die happy if we got Stanford.
2007-03-03 15:22:42
32.   trainwreck
BYU is going to be dangerous in the tourney. Talented big man surrounded with a bunch of quality shooters. Good shooting teams thrive in the tournament.
2007-03-03 15:23:24
33.   Andrew Shimmin
Just so long as they don't have to go up against that powerhouse Lamar, again, right?
2007-03-03 15:26:51
34.   Steve
Hey, at least they got on a plane, unlike certain overrated PAC-10 teams I'm familiar with.
2007-03-03 15:31:33
35.   Greg Brock
34 Whoa. Did you just say that?

Did he just say that?

2007-03-03 15:31:35
36.   Steve
In fact, let's list UCLA's meaningful non-conference road wins:

[crickets chirping]

2007-03-03 15:32:48
37.   trainwreck
Does anyone have meaningful non-conference road wins this year?
2007-03-03 15:33:49
38.   Steve
It's hard to have them if you don't play them. But that's kind of the point.
2007-03-03 15:33:54
39.   Bob Timmermann
And the Wildcats wrap up no worse than the #5 slot!

Oregon vs. Arizona in the first game on Thursday.
If Oregon beats OSU, the Ducks get to wear the white unis.

I will be accepting bids from Ducks fans and Wildcats fans for my allegiance at that game.

2007-03-03 15:35:10
40.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, the traffic from Westwood to Anaheim can be a real problem on Saturday mornings!
2007-03-03 15:35:51
41.   Greg Brock
UCLA only played one non-conference road game this year, without their point guard. They've played ten teams in the top 25. They won nine.

Most of their out of conference games were on neutral courts. They won them all.

2007-03-03 15:37:02
42.   Greg Brock
I'm more surprised Steve is dropping random blasts on UCLA.

Et tu, Ninja?

2007-03-03 15:39:46
43.   trainwreck
Ohio State played quality out of conference teams on the road and got thoroughly dominated.

All the other top teams decided against scheduling those games.

2007-03-03 15:40:12
44.   Jon Weisman
Stanford needs Anthony Goods.
2007-03-03 15:40:56
45.   Andrew Shimmin
Steve dissing the Pac 10 is like Steve loving the Golden Girls. I'm not sure the world would make any sense to me, any more, if either of those things failed to be true.
2007-03-03 15:41:28
46.   Steve
They beat a D-III team and a couple of bubble teams in Hawaii? They beat Washington (at home) when it was bizarrely ranked 14th simply based on it being in the PAC-10. They swept Arizona, as if that means anything. I mean, I realize that in 2007 that's the resume of a Top 5 NCAA team, but the resume of a Top 5 NCAA team isn't saying much any more. Couple all this with the fact that the NCAA's "protection" scheme apparently ends up sending all the worst (i.e., non-protected teams) West, and I have no doubt that UCLA fans will be very happy with the result.
2007-03-03 15:42:53
47.   Steve
Ohio State played quality out of conference teams on the road and got thoroughly dominated.

Of course they did. That's what happens when you play on the road. But to sit at home and play is without honor.

2007-03-03 15:45:53
48.   Greg Brock
National powers don't schedule tough Mid-Majors on the road. That's a recipe for upset. It's like the Super Bowl for those teams.

Mid-Majors schedule tough teams on the road, because they need the exposure for their cute wittle pwogwams. Mid-Majors like, say...BYU.

2007-03-03 15:47:28
49.   Greg Brock
It's not that I disagree with Steve. It's that the selection committee doesn't respect it, so teams don't do it.

Blame the selection committee for how big conferences schedule.

2007-03-03 15:50:02
50.   StolenMonkey86
Wow, Larry Bigbie with 2 more spring training RBI. I don't think there is more of a Plaschke stat than a spring training RBI.
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2007-03-03 15:50:06
51.   Steve
Yes, I know that UCLA has no honor. You don't have to restate the premise. But I don't have a ready retort otherwise, because your statement is beside the point. UCLA didn't schedule any mid-majors on the road. Tough, non-tough, Lamar, Barack, Morry Taylor U., anybody. It didn't schedule any Athletes in Action games on the road. No NAIA games. No University of LaVerne. Nobody. It scheduled West Virginia and lost. That's it.
2007-03-03 15:51:29
52.   Andrew Shimmin
We need to start a petition to get frequent flyer miles computed into RPI.
2007-03-03 15:51:40
53.   natepurcell
how did meloan look?
2007-03-03 15:52:09
54.   Greg Brock
51 Therefore, the best team in the country is...

Or are we just ripping on the Bruins? If so, it's cool. I mean, for honor's sake and all.

2007-03-03 15:52:32
55.   Steve
What, they can't take a bus to Fullerton?
2007-03-03 15:53:23
56.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA vs. BYU in basketball alltime series record:

UCLA 11 wins
BYU 11 wins

NCAA tournament matchups

UCLA 2 wins
BYU 2 wins

2007-03-03 15:54:15
57.   Bob Timmermann
It's the University of La Verne.

La Verne is spelled like La Roche.

2007-03-03 15:56:43
58.   Steve
Therefore, the best team in the country is...

How am I supposed to know? Trainwreck tells me that of course Ohio St. went out on the road and got spanked, and then UCLA sits at home and spanks people, and I'm suppposed to conclude, conversely, that they're the best team in the country?

Look, if they win the six games in the Tournament, then it's a non-issue. They will still lack honor, but they'll be a champion without honor, and nobody cares about the latter.

2007-03-03 15:58:58
59.   Greg Brock
They will still lack honor, but they'll be a champion without honor, and nobody cares about the latter.

You'll care, Steve...Which means I'll care.

I'll care {solidarity}

2007-03-03 15:59:46
60.   caseybarker
A champion without honor... is a champion. But I couldn't care less about college basketball.
2007-03-03 16:04:24
61.   caseybarker
But I can see your point, Steve, especially as colleges have some responsibility for their own schedules.

I am a fan of the Fresno State football Bulldogs. They are relentless in their non-conference road scheduling.

2007-03-03 16:11:42
62.   Jon Weisman
So Stanford, even without Anthony Goods or a shot at a title, even as Steve licks his lips at the prospect of facing it, at least found honor in Virginia? Or was that the team's only road game of note? I can't remember.
2007-03-03 16:13:59
63.   Greg Brock
Stanford played @ Fresno St., and won by two. Also, I really like BYU, but now I'm kind of rooting for them to get housed in the NCAA tournament. You all know who to thank for that...
2007-03-03 16:17:02
64.   Vishal
[63] i already hated byu anyway. not that talking smack on UCLA really bothers me all that much.
2007-03-03 16:18:13
65.   Bob Timmermann
I'm still disappointed that the UA alums and Oregon alums haven't offered me any money to cheer for their teams at Staples Center Thursday.

Should I go on eBay?

2007-03-03 16:19:23
66.   old dodger fan
62 Beating Virginia is a dubious honor. Yeah they beat Arizona and Gonzaga but lost to Stanford and Appalachian State (at home). Today they lost to Wake Forest. Sometimes it is like they are two different teams.
2007-03-03 16:20:57
67.   Greg Brock
65 As you know, D4P represents Oregon, and Nate represents Zona.

I know who I'd root for...

2007-03-03 16:22:51
68.   overkill94
65 I will offer three undeserved compliments for your support of the Wildcats.
2007-03-03 16:24:35
69.   Vishal
[66] but they also beat clemson, duke, and va tech.
2007-03-03 16:25:29
70.   Bob Timmermann
67
I will entertain sealed bids for my rooting interest until 11:45 PM PT on Monday.
2007-03-03 16:25:51
71.   Steve
Stanford's non-conference schedule is not much better, but then again, they aren't very good, so concessions must be made to squeak into that undeserved 11 seed.
2007-03-03 16:29:14
72.   Juan Pierre
I'm just glad you people are arguing about something else for a change.
2007-03-03 16:29:49
73.   old dodger fan
69 They played pretty well at home, outside of the debacle against Appalachian State. On the road they were 3-5 in the conference. Virginia is a good team, just not a great team.
2007-03-03 16:30:39
74.   old dodger fan
72 Juan, you probably shouldn't be here.
2007-03-03 16:30:55
75.   Greg Brock
I'd be surprised if Stanford got an 11 Seed. Bubble teams from big conferences don't usually go lower than #10.

But it may happen.

2007-03-03 16:32:19
76.   Bob Timmermann
Cal and ASU are tied in the second half.

The students in Berkeley are ready to rush the court.

2007-03-03 16:32:45
77.   caseybarker
72 That is great.
2007-03-03 16:36:54
78.   Steve
72 - Don't worry. We'll get back to you in April.

Lunardi has crafted a bracket in the West that is:

1) UCLA
2) Memphis
3) Southern Illinois
4) Nevada
5) Boston College
6) Notre Dame (Ye Gods)
7) Air Force
8) Villanova
9) Texas Tech
10) Indiana
11) Illinois

The last three teams in that bracket don't even belong there; I wasn't even aware the last two had basketball teams this year. BC is in freefall, Notre Dame is Godawful overrated Notre Dame just like it always is, Memphis is from a 14 team conference that can't even gin up one other bubble-worthy team. I shot a basketball team in Reno just to watch it die. This isn't a bracket. This is the UCLA charity invitational, just like last year, and just like it will be every year unless the NCAA 1) makes teams play real road games and 2) ends its absurd "send all flotsam West" seeding strategy.

2007-03-03 16:39:17
79.   Greg Brock
78 Yes, but you totally discount the #14 seed.
2007-03-03 16:40:17
80.   Jon Weisman
66 - Stanford beating Virginia is a dubious honor because Virginia lost to Stanford?

Actually, that makes sense.

2007-03-03 16:40:19
81.   old dodger fan
72 How is Belmont doing this year? Can we play them again?
2007-03-03 16:42:28
82.   Steve
79 - They were BYU's marquee non-conference win. How can I forget them?
2007-03-03 16:44:49
83.   Bob Timmermann
Belmont won the Atlantic Sun Conference tournament today and is headed to the Big Dance along with Penn and Winthrop!
2007-03-03 16:46:37
84.   old dodger fan
80-Post at 62 was claiming a bit of honor from beating Virginia. I was trying to keep him from getting his hopes up by beating a team that is very unpredictable. Hope that makes sense.
2007-03-03 16:49:10
85.   trainwreck
I rather face Arizona, but I hate Arizona more than Oregon.

Now I feel Bob's pain.

2007-03-03 16:54:12
86.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona vs. Oregon will be the first game Thursday (Oregon in the white unis!).

The painful game will be the last one of the day, which will be the 3-6 game of USC/WSU vs. Stanford.

By the end of the fourth game, you start lose track of who's playing. Especially in that situation since all the teams are reddish.

2007-03-03 16:55:30
87.   Andrew Shimmin
70- I bid three seals. But you're responsible for transporting them.
2007-03-03 16:56:13
88.   Bob Timmermann
The Sun Devils take a 42-41 lead in Berkeley with 14 seconds to go!
2007-03-03 16:57:24
89.   Bob Timmermann
The Sun Devils could win without making a free throw.
2007-03-03 16:57:50
90.   Juan Pierre
81 We didn't play them this year (I went to the University of South Alabama).
2007-03-03 16:59:18
91.   Steve
I would rather cut my thumbs off than play Davidson though, which is who Lunardi has BYU playing right now.
2007-03-03 16:59:45
92.   Andrew Shimmin
(Dubious)Proof of ownership.

http://www.pagetoscreen.net/photographs/animals/P1000360.jpg

2007-03-03 17:00:07
93.   Bob Timmermann
South Alabama opens Sun Belt conference play Monday against Middle Tennessee.

It's all over in Berkeley!

Sun Devils 42
Bears 41

2007-03-03 17:00:42
94.   Greg Brock
91 Somebody always loses a 12-5 matchup.

Your little outburst has made me a huge Davidson Golden Phoenix fan...

2007-03-03 17:01:13
95.   Greg Brock
I made that up. I don't know what Davidson's mascot is...
2007-03-03 17:01:51
96.   Bob Timmermann
94
Golden Phoenix?

Davidson Wildcats.

Or else there is a really subtle joke I'm missing.

2007-03-03 17:04:10
97.   Greg Brock
See? Isn't "Golden Phoenix" much more original than "Wildcats" could ever be?

Like I said, Go Wildcats.

2007-03-03 17:04:25
98.   Steve
Your encomiums to BYU are wholly unnecessary.

To throw another nugget out there on a boring Saturday afternoon, Forbes says that two of the three greatest General Managers on the planet are Kevin McHale and Billy King. Have fun with that.

2007-03-03 17:10:38
99.   Marty
Sounds like Greg has an opening for a team to root for. Maybe a certain struggling basketball program trying to corner the market on O.J.s?
2007-03-03 17:11:42
100.   trainwreck
I am watching the Patriot for the first time. This film is awful in so many ways.
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2007-03-03 17:12:58
101.   Andrew Shimmin
Trainwreck hates America.
2007-03-03 17:16:07
102.   Daniel Zappala
Glad Steve brought up the obvious, which is that college basketball needs a mandate from the NCAA that teams play a 'balanced' schedule of home/away games. Otherwise it's just not possible to compare teams. Heck, maybe the NCAA could even do the scheduling for them.

Also, I want to bring to Greg Brock's attention that he can root for BYU still since I root for them and, you know, we're best buddies and all.

2007-03-03 17:18:28
103.   Steve
After all, it's Obvious Day!
2007-03-03 17:19:27
104.   D4P
I will only pay Bob to root for Oregon if he actually goes there first (and no, the many-years-ago trip to the Medford area doesn't count)
2007-03-03 17:22:28
105.   Bob Timmermann
By my count, UCLA has played NCAA tournament games in 34 different cities.

There are two cities in which the Bruins have played 11 games.

Since it's Obvious Day, I think you know what those two cities are.

2007-03-03 17:22:38
106.   Greg Brock
102

Good point. I root for BYU to win, but for Steve to have a really terrible meal that day.

2007-03-03 17:24:29
107.   Steve
Hard for the UCLA basketball team to have bad meals when all they get is homecookin'.

I guess the news about Kevin McHale and Billy King fit into today's theme too.

2007-03-03 17:29:05
108.   Greg Brock
Steve and I were always allies. Side by side, we stood for Pierre bashing and sly comments and general smart-assery. Garry Shandling's Show, Mel Brooks, and Lugo hatred.

Let it be known, this day, that things have changed. Not a big deal...But things have changed.

2007-03-03 17:30:49
109.   Bob Timmermann
Steve hasn't changed his line on Pac-10 basketball. He's consistent.

And he won't rest until both TCU and New Mexico get NCAA tournament bids.

2007-03-03 17:33:06
110.   Bob Timmermann
Which of these cities has UCLA NOT played an NCAA tournament game in:

Boise
Corvallis
Ogden
Pocatello
Pullman
Syracuse
Eugene
Portland

2007-03-03 17:36:58
111.   D4P
110
Who's UCLA NOT...?
2007-03-03 17:39:06
112.   Greg Brock
In which of these cities has UCLA not played a tournament game?
2007-03-03 17:39:14
113.   Bob Timmermann
Sorry, I'll turn into the New York Times

"U.C.L.A. NOT"

2007-03-03 17:44:35
114.   Uncle Miltie
I'm still disappointed that the UA alums and Oregon alums haven't offered me any money to cheer for their teams at Staples Center Thursday.
It doesn't matter, UCLA will beat either team. As always, I'll be rooting for UCLA.
2007-03-03 17:47:20
115.   Steve
Am I asking for the moon? The GDP of small European nations? I'm just asking for UCLA to play a road game or two! That's it!

This is what we do, Brock. We ask the hard questions.

2007-03-03 17:52:41
116.   Uncle Miltie
Washington State is pulling away.

Are there any good ineligible players on the bench that Floyd can sneak into the game?

2007-03-03 17:57:30
117.   Uncle Miltie
Haha, Tim Floyd is pulling a coach K.

I don't know how he hasn't been T'd up yet.

That was definitely an offensive foul.

2007-03-03 18:05:37
118.   overkill94
Free basketball in Pullman!
2007-03-03 18:05:53
119.   Greg Brock
115 LOL...Understood.
2007-03-03 18:07:13
120.   Andrew Shimmin
RIP Paul Joyal.
2007-03-03 18:10:02
121.   Uncle Miltie
The 27 year old freshman just threw it away.

I know which team Paul Westphal is cheering for.

2007-03-03 18:10:14
122.   Greg Brock
Come on you stupid Cougars...Put a game away!
2007-03-03 18:10:42
123.   Greg Brock
Not what I was looking for there.
2007-03-03 18:11:24
124.   Uncle Miltie
What the heck. USC's going to win at the free throw line. I didn't see any foul.
2007-03-03 18:12:47
125.   Greg Brock
Brick brick brick brick

Noonan! Noooooonan! Noonan!

2007-03-03 18:13:34
126.   Greg Brock
{waves arms frantically}
2007-03-03 18:14:23
127.   Greg Brock
I did it!
2007-03-03 18:14:24
128.   Uncle Miltie
A miss!
2007-03-03 18:16:36
129.   Uncle Miltie
He was fouled!
2007-03-03 18:17:30
130.   overkill94
Double free basketball in Pullman!
2007-03-03 18:25:29
131.   Uncle Miltie
What a BS call.
2007-03-03 18:25:38
132.   Greg Brock
Terrible call against the Cougars.
2007-03-03 18:28:51
133.   Greg Brock
It's appropriate that Tim Floyd is the Southern Cal coach, because I've never like the man. Whiny, grouchy, and as personable as a punch in the gulliver.
2007-03-03 18:30:29
134.   Uncle Miltie
But he sure knows how to "recruit"
2007-03-03 18:33:20
135.   Uncle Miltie
Even the rims are rigged...
2007-03-03 18:39:34
136.   Bob Timmermann
Final Pac-10 standings:
1) UCLA 15-3
2) Washington State 13-5
3) USC 11-7
4) Oregon 11-7
5) Arizona 11-7
6) Stanford 10-8
7) Washington 8-10
8) California 6-12
9) Oregon State 3-15
10) Arizona State 2-16

USC gets the #3 spot because of a 4-0 record against Oregon and Arizona.

Oregon and Arizona split their games, but Oregon is seeded higher because they have a win over first place UCLA.

The Cal-Oregon State game Wednesday night promises to be brutal. Its brutality will be surpassed only by Thursday's game where the winner of Cal-OSU plays UCLA.

2007-03-03 18:39:37
137.   Greg Brock
Man, lots of credit to Southern Cal. They just would not go away.

But they lost. Credit for that, too.

2007-03-03 18:47:43
138.   Bob Timmermann
The 88 points were the Cougars season high this year. They had scored 84 early in the season against Radford in Milwaukee in the John Thompson Foundation Challenge. Washington State won the tournament, also beating UAB and Wisconsin-Milwaukee.
2007-03-03 18:49:27
139.   Greg Brock
138 Will there be a Pacific Ten tournament bracket challenge on The Griddle?

If so, will there be valuable prizes?

2007-03-03 18:51:07
140.   Bob Timmermann
139
Intriguing idea.

I can give someone a souvenir program from the tournament.

Especially since they give you the programs for free when you go!

2007-03-03 18:55:37
141.   Greg Brock
Will there be a Pacific Ten tournament bracket challenge on The Griddle?

If so, will there be valuable prizes?

2007-03-03 19:00:53
142.   D4P
141
The best things in life are free...
2007-03-03 19:04:33
143.   Greg Brock
Things that are free:

Menengitis
Beatings
Getting your car stolen
Wire hangers
Lint
Pennysaver Magazine
ABC

Which of those things make your "best things in life" list?

2007-03-03 19:05:21
144.   Bob Timmermann
The most likely entrants though want to preserve their identities, so I'm not sure if anyone will participate. I may have to make the valuable prize something like an Amazon gift certificate.

I think I would need to figure out a scoring system and tiebreaker since I think most people will pick UCLA to win.

2007-03-03 19:07:58
145.   Greg Brock
144 I think graduating from UCLA should be the tiebreaker.
2007-03-03 19:09:42
146.   Andrew Shimmin
Will measures be taken to frustrate unscrupulous copy and pasters?
2007-03-03 19:11:54
147.   Sam DC
145 Gotta go with postgrad degree.

Or childhood proximity to campus.

Or number of times having attended the Pepsi track meet at Drake Stadium.

2007-03-03 19:18:30
148.   Steve
Let's try Brock's answer again:

Things that are free

Menengitis
Beatings
Getting your car stolen
Wire hangers
Lint
Pennysaver Magazine
ABC
Dodger Thoughts

Nicely played, Brock. Now we all have a good reason to root against UCLA.
As if we needed any more.

2007-03-03 19:26:42
149.   Greg Brock
148 I pay $15.99 a month for Dodger Thoughts, just like the rest of you.

Right?

2007-03-03 19:40:07
150.   Bob Timmermann
In the final 6:51 of the Cal-ASU game, the teams combined to score three points.
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2007-03-03 19:43:48
151.   Sam DC
Is the headlie of this post purely informational, or am I just missing the reference?
2007-03-03 19:48:48
152.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Going back to the game, I also caught the Dodgers Notes piece about Kuo pitching from the windup. I wonder if this means that he'll be able to throw more consistently in the mid-90s now, once his arm strength is back. Doesn't the slide-step usually take a few mph off?

I noticed last year that for a guy who was advertised as a very hard-throwing power lefty, he'd sometimes only be in the high 80s, and I don't recall seeing him in the mid-90s much, even after he was moved to starting.

Anyhow, like a lot of other people, I'm hoping Kuo can stick in the rotation, and Miller can return to his early dominance in AAA as a starter, now that he's also returned to his original pre-injury motion. I'd love to be able to flip Penny for a king's ransom at the trade deadline (a young slugging OF bat, perhaps?), which would be a lot easier to do if it looked like Miller could step into a starter's role later this year. That's probably being too optimistic, of course. Miller's numbers in AAA last year weren't all that great, and I think he'd need a season to re-establish himself. But one of the things that marked Miller's early career was how good a feel he had for pitching, so if he's fully healthy now, who knows what'll happen.

WWSH

2007-03-03 19:50:03
153.   Bob Timmermann
151
It's not always a joke.
Sometimes a headline is just a headline.
2007-03-03 20:05:58
154.   Greg Brock
151 Sam, I forgot to tell you this pearl...

Student (Jaime): Mr, Brock, if it was called "The great Leap Forward," why did millions of people die?"
Me: It's what Chairman Mao called it
Jaime: It really doesn't seem like a good leap
Me: No, Jaime...No it doesn't.

2007-03-03 20:10:54
155.   Uncle Miltie
Anyone who has to work with Dick Vitale is underpaid.

I feel for Dan Shulman.

2007-03-03 20:11:16
156.   Bob Timmermann
So a lot of people at work signed a card of encouragement for one of my staff who is running the L.A. Marathon tomorrow.

The question is: Do we throw a smaller bash when we get back? In other words, do we want to use this as an excuse to eat cake? Or have we done enough?

Or should we be like one guy who said, "I wouldn't do anything unless she really finishes."

2007-03-03 20:14:44
157.   Greg Brock
Eat cake. Stanley gets one pretzel a year. You have an opportunity to eat cake for no good reason.

You owe it to the Stanleys of the world.

2007-03-03 20:15:24
158.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 156

Granted, you should realize that I'm also the office grinch who refuses to participate in things like "Secret Santa" as a matter of principle, but I think you guys have done "due diligence" when it comes to Marathon encouragement.

WWSH

2007-03-03 20:17:04
159.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Re: 155

I watch very little college basketball, but I have seen Vitale do his thing. I assume there are lots of people out there who like his shouted delivery of game commentary--otherwise, why would he still doing so many games? OTOH, surely there are many people who find it... well... a bit much?

WWSH

2007-03-03 20:17:42
160.   Bob Timmermann
The kicker on this is that the marathon's finish line is at the library.

Normally, this person would have been working Sunday. I told her that she should just train so she could finish the marathon in time for her to start work.

She refused.

2007-03-03 20:19:43
161.   Bob Timmermann
If ESPN felt that Dick Vitale hurt their ratings, they'd stop using him. He obviously doesn't hurt the ratings.

If Vitale were so unpopular, he wouldn't be hired to do TV commercials, but he is.

Please note the use of the subjunctive in the second paragraph.

2007-03-03 20:24:44
162.   Greg Brock
If ESPN felt that Joe Morgan hurt their ratings, they'd stop using him. He obviously doesn't hurt the ratings.
2007-03-03 20:26:13
163.   Uncle Miltie
Ok, I'm sure there are people who like Dick Vitale and I guess I can see why. He's enthusiastic and seems very genuine.

On the other hand, I still don't understand how Brent Musburger continues to find employment. It's probably based on the amount of experience he has. You find me a Brent Musburger fan who isn't a blood relative (or a colleague) and I'll purchase a Juan Pierre jersey.

2007-03-03 20:27:38
164.   Uncle Miltie
To add to that, Digger Phelps still has a job.
2007-03-03 20:29:11
165.   D4P
I still don't understand how Brent Musburger continues to find employment

He knows a guy

2007-03-03 20:29:19
166.   Steve
Things that are free

Menengitis
Beatings
Getting your car stolen
Wire hangers
Lint
Pennysaver Magazine
ABC
Juan Pierre jersey

2007-03-03 20:29:33
167.   Greg Brock
164 That was a bold move, my friend.
2007-03-03 20:43:41
168.   Greg Brock
Lakers vs. Celtics, narrated by Dick Enberg, on Prime Ticket.
2007-03-03 20:44:42
169.   Daniel Zappala
154 Your students don't call you Mr. Brock, do they? Or do you really go by a fake name all day long?
2007-03-03 20:48:22
170.   Greg Brock
169 They call me Mr. B...Or by my full last name.

They can also call me "Your Royal Awesomeness"

None of them call me that {sigh}

2007-03-03 20:52:20
171.   D4P
170
How about "Davey Boy", like the British Bulldog...?
2007-03-03 20:59:34
172.   Greg Brock
171 Why would they call me "Davey Boy?"

My first name is Francis.

2007-03-03 21:20:52
173.   Indiana Jon
Sit down, Francis.
2007-03-03 21:40:39
174.   D4P
Is trainwreck aware of Randy Couture's exploits this evening? Amazing...
2007-03-03 21:41:47
175.   Greg Brock
Does anybody here post over at BTF?
(Other than Bob, of course)
2007-03-03 21:43:18
176.   Bob Timmermann
Gagne55 does.

I believe Gold Star for Robot Boy does as well.

2007-03-03 21:44:24
177.   Greg Brock
I know Nate used to, though I haven't seen him around lately.
2007-03-03 21:54:08
178.   Greg Brock
I'm surprised D4P, Steve, or Andrew don't post at BTF.

A little bit of new blood would probably do a lot of good.

2007-03-03 21:55:41
179.   D4P
178
I only post here because Jon pays me to, just like the rest of you.

Right?

2007-03-03 21:58:55
180.   Bob Timmermann
BTF gets a lot of yelling from Mets fans.
2007-03-03 22:02:13
181.   Greg Brock
180 That's kind of where I was going. I'm a little tired of the Mets and D-Backs fans that dominate Primer. I thought it'd be pretty neat if a few more Dodger fans started posting over there...Especially if we all knew each other.
2007-03-03 22:03:41
182.   Greg Brock
I know Rob posts over there...And he's always hilarious.
2007-03-03 22:06:28
183.   Bob Timmermann
181
All you'll end up hearing from the BTF crowd is that Tommy Lasorda is a jerk, Dodger fans arrive late and leave early, Steve Garvey fathered a lot of children, etc.

It's more productive to come here and have a 350 post debate about Juan Pierre for the 100th time.

2007-03-03 22:08:49
184.   D4P
183
So, the primary difference between BTF posters and DT posters is that the latter don't think Dodger fans arrive late and leave early...?
2007-03-03 22:09:32
185.   Greg Brock
But Tommy Lasorda is a jerk.

Most of the posters at BTF really bother me, but some of them are really funny. I enjoy the back and forth with them. It just seems like there aren't enough Dodger fans over there to build a sufficient army to combat the silliness.

I mean, Bob T is over there, but he usually just tells people about the Patty Duke Show...

2007-03-03 22:11:05
186.   Greg Brock
Cousins...Identical cousins...

They were two of a kind!

2007-03-03 22:16:45
187.   Bob Timmermann
You can learn a lot from watching old episodes of "The Patty Duke Show."

However, I am getting to the end of the DVD of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

I was displeased.

2007-03-03 22:18:14
188.   Steve
Remember when we were talking about Dayn Perry the other day? Look at how daring his "breakout" choices are for 2007.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6515506

Strangely enough, he left off Jonathan Papelbon and Hanley Ramirez.

2007-03-03 22:19:37
189.   GMac In The 909
57 I'm proud to say I am a Leopard. In fact, I rock an "Alumni: University of La Verne" license plate frame on my Dodger blue mustang.

So one could say I bleed yellow and, umm, black Leopard dots (in addition to Dodger Blue, of course).

2007-03-03 22:32:16
190.   Jon Weisman
I don't think I'm overstating by saying that I think that Dodger Thoughts killed Dodger game chats at Baseball Primer, as well as a lot of Dodger fan talk there.

I remember there was a time when I wondered whether I should even bother having game chats here, because so many people did Dodger game chats there.

2007-03-03 22:32:42
191.   Jon Weisman
By the way, where is CoachJPark these days?
2007-03-03 22:35:11
192.   Bob Timmermann
189
Representing the SCIAC!
2007-03-03 22:36:18
193.   Greg Brock
190 Really? It's not that hard to post over here, and drop the occasional comment at Primer.

I mean, I'd always post here first, but doing both isn't exactly rocket surgery...

2007-03-03 22:37:12
194.   Bob Timmermann
193
I mainly check BTF to make sure I'm not plagiarizing Repoz.
2007-03-03 22:37:50
195.   D4P
What's the deal with the tan things on the hats this year? Now I'm seeing photos on Dodgers.com in which some hats have the tan things, and some don't...
2007-03-03 22:39:05
196.   Bob Timmermann
The tan things are the new style batting practice caps that all the teams are supposed to wear.

They are an affront to decency.

2007-03-03 22:40:45
197.   D4P
They are an affront to decency

Indeed, but I'm glad to hear they won't be worn during the season

2007-03-03 22:42:00
198.   Jon Weisman
193 - It may not be hard, but I think the question is how much are you gaining through the extra effort?

To quote the Police, "One world is enough for all of us."

2007-03-03 22:43:01
199.   Marty
What's baseball primer?
2007-03-03 22:48:49
200.   Jon Weisman
Now Odom is out again. The Lakers have so many injuries, they are calling up Mike Edwards.
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2007-03-03 22:49:33
201.   Greg Brock
198 It's official...Jon Weisman hates other baseball sites.

I'm kidding. Please don't kill me, oh benevolent and wonderful Philosopher King. My loyalty is yours, and yours alone.

2007-03-03 22:55:47
202.   Jon Weisman
Baseball Primer is what I still call Baseball Think Factory.

Are there any San Fernando Valley State graduates out there?

2007-03-03 22:57:00
203.   Bob Timmermann
The only Dodgers thread I saw on Baseball Primer was Rich Lederer's correction about Carl Erskine.
2007-03-03 23:00:15
204.   Andrew Shimmin
I don't post at BTF because I don't like baseball.

Or blogs.

2007-03-03 23:02:51
205.   D4P
204
Or thinking
2007-03-03 23:09:50
206.   Disabled List
202 Are there any San Fernando Valley State graduates out there?

Hola! Or did you mean graduates from when it was actually called SFV State?

2007-03-03 23:09:54
207.   Andrew Shimmin
Tomorrow on Lifetime: My Baby is Missing.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0844344/

2007-03-03 23:17:03
208.   Icaros
200

This Odom injury makes me feel like I did when J.D. Drew broke his wrist.

2007-03-03 23:20:59
209.   Bob Timmermann
I have a degree from the California State Normal School.
2007-03-04 01:27:56
210.   27indigo
202 2004 CSUN alum, unless as 206 mentioned, you're talking about when it was still called SFVS.

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