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7) using sarcasm in a way that can be misinterpreted negatively
8) making the same point over and over again
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10) being annoyed by the existence of this list
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12) claiming your opinion isn't allowed when it's just being disagreed with
From Tony Jackson in the Daily News:
But La Roche's finest moment came in the ninth inning. The Dodgers trailed 2-1 with runners on second and third with none out after a double by Fernando Tatis. For a young player pining to make a season-opening roster, this would have been the perfect situation to try to impress, to swing hard at everything in hopes of getting the big hit that would turn that one-run deficit into a one-run lead.
But instead of getting overeager and chasing pitches out of his zone, La Roche patiently worked Adkins for a walk to load the bases, and ultimately he came around to score what would have been an important run if this were an important game. And that is the sort of thing general managers and managers tend to notice.
Change the protagonist, and the story goes from coward to hero.
Okay, I don't have a problem with La Roche getting a real shot to win the job this spring, and clearly third-base is his property for the next ten years if he wants it, but are they really putting that much stock in Betemit's first four lousy, meaningless, spring at-bats?
I kind of hope this "sense" is Tony Jackson's more than Collittle's.
I really do think this is just a reporter getting ahead of himself, especially when there really isn't that much real "news" at this point in ST.
Word also was that Colletti was irritated at LaRoche last ST, so seeing him catapulting that far ahead is premature to say the least. Heck, remember how quickly the talk of him playing the OF died?
WWSH
Great point, Jon.
vr, Xei
vr, Xei
The popularity of "Moneyball" has lessened the emphasis on having good defense. Though the book has some good ideas, putting less importance on defense was not one.
vr, Xei
http://tinyurl.com/rw23s
(Make sure speakers are on)
I slipped and fell right before listening to that for better effect.
Should I be pleased that the Rams signed Drew Bennett?
I think Drew Bennett, who never got to play QB because of Cade McNown, can use the sound in 12 anytime he speaks to McNown.
i dont understand why they didnt just re-sign kevin curtis.
I think she said she wearing a t-shirt and shorts. I'll keep an eye out for someone matching that description.
The leaders are on a 2:09 pace.
I really like Curtis, but they seemed to think Curtis was bolting anyway (he probably wants to start somewhere). Bennett is also a lot bigger than the rest of the Rams receivers, which could help with their red-zone struggles.
When I went to the Rose Bowl in 95, I told my family I'd be the one in the green shirt
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Has a team ever struggled as mightily in the red-zone as the Rams have over the past 5 years or so? I've never seen anything like it. Between the 20s, they've been incredible. But once in the red-zone, it's all field goals.
You got your money's worth at the 1995 Rose Bowl. That game took about 4 1/2 hours to play.
"O'Neil drops back to pass..."
Lather.
Rinse.
Repeat.
I don't know if I'm more infuriated by their red-zone issues or their continued and apparently unending struggles covering kickoffs and punts.
Bennett, at 6-5 206 lbs., is the biggest wide-receiver to play for the Rams since they moved in '95. He's also supposed to be a good run blocker.
Actually, I think my mom bought the ticket for me...
unending struggles covering kickoffs and punts
Ridiculous. I thought all the tomfoolery would end once they (finally) canned Martz, but I guess old habits are hard to break.
Picked him up for Juan Pierre, Olmedo and Tomko in the second week in April. Oh video games, you so crazy. Sounds like all those trades we bandy about here with no basis in reality.
Quien es mas macho: Derek Lowe o Brett Tomko?
Quien es mas macho: Sr. Lowe o Senor Tomko...
Okay, definitely avoiding the Tomko start. Braves it is.
My mom bought my 1984 Rose Bowl ticket to see UCLA play Illinois. I think it set her back about $28.
Small world
Repko-RF
Lieberthal-C
Garciaparra-1B
Kent-2B
Gonzalez-LF
Kemp-CF
Betemit-3B
Martinez-SS
Lowe-P
What's the point of having Lieberthal hit 2nd...?
I always think there's too much emphasis on naming some guy a "Number 1". I'd rather just not have anyone who is a "Number 5." I'd rather have five 2 1/2s.
Ah, math never was Nigel's best subject.
Maybe I was using base 9!
Who the hell is Sarah, and why does she get a "take?"
http://www.dodgerplace.net/biography.htm
http://www.dodgerplace.net/my_struggles.htm
http://www.dodgerplace.net/biography.htm
Thanks, but the 2nd half of my question is still unanswered.
Since most reputable publications employ columnists from the left and the right, we should lobby Dodgers.com to publish a pro-sabermetrics writer.
Also, just remember that Lance Carter and Brett Tomko were the 2006 Spring Training MVPs before you start caring about what's happening.
Why? Because I want Nomar off first base. Loney will catch most of Nomar's sinking one hoppers pitched at him from third base.
If Nomar is going to be injured this year let's get it over with sooner than later. As it is we are just waiting for the second shoe to drop anyway. Hopefully Ned won't panic and make a knee-jerk trade should Nomar get injured.
jermaine dye 2006
No, LuGo would already have been on the bench anyway. I'd put him in center in place of Repko, flanked by Ethier and Loney
Actually its silly to take early ST very seriously.
dyes tools and physical traits are alot like kemps and they have similar minor league numbers. Jermaine Dye is just one possible player Kemp can turn into.
SIU will still get in and likely be a pretty high seed. Maybe a #4 or #5.
Meanwhile, please, don't start concluding things about any players based on Spring Training performance.
Btw, missed your bro's thing at Wonder-Con yesterday - got stuck in another thing and then had to leave early after spending too much on comic stuff (an original Simpsons animatic for one!) Hope he had fun. Saw Brad Bird and Patton Oswalt introduce Ratatouille though.
Boy (x2), I smell bad. Just played soccer. Need shower. Must leave before I offend.
Thankfully most of them aren't coming in to the library.
I think everyone here would be happy if those were kemp's averages when hes 23-26 or so.
Btw, did anyone catch these two items in the new minor league report on Dodgers.com?
"Kyle Orr, a fourth-round pick, is a left-handed hitter with power. He signed in October after competing for the Canadian Junior Olympic Team. The Dodgers will initially try him in the outfield, although at 6-foot-5 he might wind up at first base."
"Jumbo Diaz, known for his size and his fastball, is slimmed down and close to throwing again after a second elbow operation. Diaz has lost an estimated 40 pounds and is making regular bullpen sessions."
Is this an attempt to say something about her, or an attempt to say nothing and only make it seem like something?
http://www.dodgerplace.net/biography.htm
http://www.dodgerplace.net/my_struggles.htm
This is another one of those arguments where I don't think there's really that much difference in the positions. Do anti-moneyballers really think defense is every bit as important as offense? Or that the difference between the best defender and the worst defender is anything like as great as the difference between the best and worst hitters?
Koyie Hill is in camp with the Cubs. And he just threw out a runner trying to steal third. Was he traded, or a minor league FA?
There are times I agree with Sarah, and times I disagree with her. If she read my stuff, I assume she'd feel the same about me.
Yet I still don't like the idea of the double error!
>>> Penny knows place, and it's OK
By Steve Henson, Times Staff Writer
March 4, 2007
Manager Grady Little "is great about asking, and I told him that as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if I'm number two, three, four or five," Penny said.
http://tinyurl.com/2hs75d <<<
What determines whether this kind of attitude is viewed as:
1. that of an unselfish team player willing to do whatever is asked of him, or
2. that of a guy who lacks fire and motivation and the will to win, so much so that he's indifferent as to his place in the rotation?
But he's still sober enough to make Steve Lyons look like Gallager.
Whether you like Brad Penny or not
Hopefully we can win a game in the playoffs.
Have you seen Randy's match from last night yet...?
I haven't seen it yet. Musta been pretty exciting. He's probably my all-time favorite, but I didn't want him to un-retire. Pretty amazing performance though.
I'm not looking forward to him fighting CroCop...
He has a chance against CroCop, just because the NSAC rules favor wrestlers. They can shoot without worrying about getting kneed in the head. Randy can shoot on CroCop and GnP him. If he tries to stand against CroCop like he did against Sylvia, it will not end pretty.
Yeah it was really exciting. From the opening seconds Randy gave a reason for everyone to go insane. The cool thing is that the bar I go to gets a lot of Bay Area fighters. I was talking with a guy that does MMA for a living and he was just so pumped for Randy and was making all these crazy bets hoping for Randy. He was just ecstatic as Randy nailed Sylvia in the opening seconds.
It's not so much that I think Randy would have no chance, but I was hoping CroCop would go undefeated the UFC and dominate the HW division until Fedor shows up. Now I don't know whom to root for.
Randy is definitely one of the greatest people in MMA, but I am going to root for CroCop. Liddell is probably going to move up at some point to fight the champ and I much rather see him fight CroCop, not destroy Randy again.
Yeah, I don't want to see Randy lose to Chuck again. I still think Randy is better, though. Their first bout was awesome.
I'd rather have Randy "retire" again than lose to CroCop.
Last week they asked him his team of the year and he said the Dodgers. Not exactly sure if that means we are his World Series pick.
I love Steve Phillips.
"There's a rhythm and a flow that happens to a team when things are going well. When you're scoring runs, when you're playing well -- pitchers who work too quickly sometimes get their hitters out of a flow; they work too slowly, they get out of the flow. And when you have a star on the mound, sometimes everybody stands around and watches. Roger Clemens shut out nine times last year when he pitched for the Astros -- shut out seventeen times. I just think it's about the environment that the pitcher creates!"
This is an absolute fabrication, as Bob knows from the SABR convention.
well .... the alternatives in the NL West aren't that watchable, are they?
Also, I emailed them the Princeton study and Phil Birnbaum's PPT from SABR 36.
From Cubs website:
>>> Date Transaction
11/16/06 Acquired LHP Neal Cotts from the Chicago White Sox in exchange for RHP David Aardsma and LHP Carlos Vasquez; Signed RHP Jason Anderson, RHP Ben Howard, LHP Les Walrond, RHP John Webb, C Koyie Hill and INF Jason Smith to Minor League contracts and invited them to Spring Training. <<<
Phil Birnbaum, co-creator of the Griddle's Pac-10 tournament contest and an entrant.
He doesn't know anything about college basketball. He just knows a lot more about math and odds.
He has told me that "The Newlywed Game" has one of the fairest scoring systems among game shows.
Or have you forgotten?
Neiman Ranch Bacon
Traders Joe's Mayo
La Brea Extra Sour Sourdough roll
Everyone to Marty's house in July!
Can anyone predict the headine about four days from now?
Eric Gagne will probably not throw in a game until mid-March. He has thrown off a mound but is on a different pace than other Ranger pitchers. While everyone else is throwing every other day, Gagne throws every third day. Gagne is also being more selective about how much pitchers' fielding practice he participates in. He is trying to keep his back healthy.
Since his dominating run for the Los Angeles Dodgers from 2002-04, when he converted 84 straight saves and won an NL Cy Young Award, Gagne has had three operations and pitched only 15 1/3 innings. The right-hander had as many surgeries as appearances (two) last year.
If Penny goes against another teams fourth pitcher 75% of the time he will probably have more wins that if he were to be matched 75% of the time against the other team's best pitcher.
When the season is over and if Penny has more wins than any other Dodger pitcher he will look like the ace of the staff.
Furcal, Repko, Ethier, Garciapara, Loney, Kent, Gonzo, Martin.
I'll watch on your recommendation. The title is funny at least.
I don't think you'll regret the decision
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Yeah. Fox is always pimping stupid new stuff to replace its good old stuff
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Good Lifetime movie tonight...
It will be very interesting to find out how bad it is.
Or is Wolf entitled to the 4, and Billz/Kuo are battling for the 5th?
I really dont think Billingsley would learn much by pitching in Vegas again. He might regress the same way Edwin Jackson did. I dont think it helps young pitchers to bring them up for an extended period, then send them back down to AAA the following season. Billingsley will learn more at the MLB level. I think Kuo will too. Hopefully both make the team.
1. Lowe
2. Schmidt
3. Penny
4. Kuo
5. Billingsley
6. Broxton
7. Saito
Pitchers who should probably make the team:
8. Wolf
Pitchers who should be battling for the last 3-4 spots:
9. Beimel
10. Dessens
11. Hamulack
12. Hendrickson
13. Tomko
14. Tsao
15. All others in the mix
Wait for it...
Yeah. Odd to see Simpsons using different means of animation.
Number of laughs: zero.
I'll tell you what was funny in about 7 minutes or so
2. The FoxNews reference was marginally funny, though a little obvious
3. Superintendent Chalmers' "Why do you have to make things weird" line
4. The scene with Apu and Snake at the psychiatrist
5. In general, having Cletus and his kids getting so much attention (their names were pretty good too)
Probably a few other things as well, which I'm forgetting
I don't think "The Simpsons" is nearly as good as it used to be, but I can still find a few things in most episodes that I appreciate. Little things, such as Bart referring to Skinner and Chalmers by their first names.
BTW: What is on your list of "Things D4P Likes"...?
I thought it was funny.
I laughed through most of it.
"Nobody pajaminates me!"
"I can give you a peppy vamp and I can counterpoint it with ...
NO COUNTERPOINT! JUST GIMME A VAMP!"
2. Genocide
3. Clowns
1. Funny "The Simpsons" > Post-funny Simpsons > Most other sitcoms these days
2. D--- straight
3. I hate clowns more than you do
Puh-lease
1. According to Jim
2. Friends
3. Anything "reality" related
4. W&G
5. The never-ending onslaught of homogenous hospital, lawyer, and police shows
6. The list goes on and on
I understand. My "The Simpsons" experience is probably different from most around here, in that I didn't start watching until around 1997 or so. As a result, I never built up the lofty expectations that long-time viewers probably did.
Courtney Thorne-Smith is the wife on that show. If you can forget everything else about it, and just focus on that one part..Its really not that bad.
Then you're falling into their trap
Thomas Eagleton
And then came Melrose Place but Heather Lockler took the main blonde role in that show.
I've dug her ever since.
It's not a particularly good movie, but it is on the cable every thirty minutes.
That's crazy talk. Summer School rocks.
Wondermutt...
Andrew just said that because he's embarrassed about knowing (and liking) so many crappy movies, given that he thrashes me for still liking "The Simpsons"
I still respect you D4P.
I still like "The Simpsons."
You're OK by me.
Oh, and the number of competitors is up to 10 in the Griddle contest. Man, economic incentives work!
Wow, just wow.
http://tinyurl.com/292wp2
http://tinyurl.com/29fhgd
He only has one particular pitch.
Please Explain: John Travolta
"It's like, so weird..."
"It's like he ate a plate a tacos, or somethin'"
"It's like, Bruce Willis is talkin', but, it's like, the baby's talkin', it's like, so weird..."
(You should hear me say this: I crack myself up)
saito
broxton
tomko
beimel
tsao
billingsley
that should be sufficient as hendrickson and dessens are traded.
The authoritative list is in 164
vr, Xei
even if he plays awful and laroche plays plays great his spring, i think the ideal situation is for betemit to begin the year as the starter with a hugely motivated laroche in AAA licking his chops.
Meanwhile, Billz just got my favorite breakfast cereal-baseball player, Coco Crisp.
But he's hitting over .300...!
Good ol' Billz.
This same thing happened to Hee Seop Choi. I am not a huge fan of his, but Jim Tracy not playing him in place of Jason Phillips made me want to claw my eyes out in 2005. Let's see Betemit in April and let LaRoche force his way on to the team in May or June.
Betemit cant hit lefties.
And Pierre just stole 2nd.
Not cool Ichiro stat: Never .460 SLG, only once OBP above .400 and had to hit .372 to do it.
He managed to be a below average hitter for his position last year (13th best OPS among 16 RF with 450 ABs ahead of Shawn Green, Brian Giles and Jeff Francoeur) despite hitting .328.
Player B .350/.381/.457 8 HR 56 SB
Who had the better year? I mean, even by traditional standards, surely when the batting averages are that close the huge power difference would make Player A more valuable. Yet Ichiro won the MVP over Giambi in 2000. I am betting it was because of his laser arm, and the intangibles he brought on the base paths.
Look at runs and RBIs too. Giambi just crushed him and yet lost.
Ichrio 127 runs, 69 RBI
Giambi 109 runs, 120 RBI in 70 less PA.
I guess he was juicing at the time, but still.
Baseball Reference tells me two things:
First, you probably mean 2001.
Second, Seattle won 14 more games than Oakland that year (a ridiculous 116-102). Not that that should necessarily have mattered, but I'm sure it did.
I like listening to the opposing teams broadcast as not only is it generally better than Monday/Steiner, they talk more about Dodger players as they have likely said everything that can be said about their own players.
http://tinyurl.com/3dqevh
Throngs that had gathered to witness the spectacle wore masks, goggles, and even motorcycle helmets to protect themselves from the pollution.
But it is for a good cause! Getting your name in a record book of useless records.
The argument is made by some that stealing bases, speed, etc. is "exciting" to watch. But when you think about it, I can run, and so can most people. I've seen plenty of people running before, both on and off the baseball field.
So I ask: is it really that exciting to watch someone run?
Americans can set World Records too...
http://tinyurl.com/35wdg3
Only someone named Forrest.............
Good times.
I think it was Troll book orders....always got the Guinness Book and a Garfield book.......classic.
That's cause you're not a chick...
http://www.dailynews.com/dodgers/ci_5360622
Whatever!
316 I dunno, I mean, maybe, and I think if Drew specifically wanted a no-trade clause added I could understand that. But wanting a long extension for an injury prone player... I can understand both sides of it but don't think it's fair to call it bad business on Colletti's part.
vr, Xei
Speaking of roses by other names, is there any difference between "opt-out" and "player option"? J. D. Drew, in essence, elected not to exercise his option on the rest of the contract. Teams frequently choose not to exercise their option on a player's contract. Player's agents, however, are smart enough to realize that there is value there and negotiate a cost to the team if they choose not to exercise their option. So why was J. D. Drew's opt-out/option free ? (Sure, he would have left anyway, but at least he'd provide some of LuGo's inflated salary.)
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