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Penny Rests; Kuo Starts
2007-03-21 16:01
by Jon Weisman

Tony Jackson says not to panic, so I'll just grit my teeth and console myself that precautions were taken:

Brad Penny won't start against the Mets tonight because of irritation in the front of his right shoulder, but he underwent an MRI on Monday that showed no structural damage. Penny said if it were a regular season game, he would start. But manager Grady Little doesn't want to take any chances with this being spring training. It also isn't expected to set Penny back at all in his preparations for the season. Little said he should be ready to go seven or eight innings in his first start, which is expected to come on April 6 at San Francisco. So, no reason to panic for now.

Eight innings in his first start? Talk about optimistic ...

Hong-Chih Kuo is now dressed to impress.

Live boxscore

Comments (131)
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2007-03-21 16:06:47
1.   Bob Timmermann
I want to panic! I can't find my towel!
2007-03-21 16:07:43
2.   Greg S
"The great trouble with baseball today is that most of the players are in the game for the money that's in it- not for the love of it, the excitement of it, the thrill of it."

-T Cobb 1925

2007-03-21 16:09:01
3.   overkill94
De Jesus starting at SS? Has he started at all this spring?
2007-03-21 16:09:32
4.   underdog
Bob, just listen to some Vogon poetry and you'll be fine. Or dead.

I'm not worried, but, yeah, 8 innings in the first start would be a miracle.

Wow, Ivan De Jesus Jr. gets the start today. And he made a nice play on a tough grounder from Reyes, who just beat it out.

2007-03-21 16:10:37
5.   Jon Weisman
Plus, Valdez at third while La Roche plays left
2007-03-21 16:10:42
6.   underdog
Reyes insures that Kuo starts pitching from the stretch, right away.
2007-03-21 16:11:26
7.   D4P
"What fuels Major Leaguers? The love for baseball. Though most sportswriters believe baseball players play baseball for the incredibly high salaries, I don't. Over my 30 years of watching baseball, I can name the players who I thought play baseball for the money on one hand."

- S Morris 2007

2007-03-21 16:13:30
8.   overkill94
Nice hook Hong-Chi!
2007-03-21 16:13:34
9.   Greg S
"Professional baseball is on the wane. Salaries must come down or the interest of the public must be increased in some way. If one of the other does not happen, bankruptcy stares every team in the face."

- Albert Spalding 1881

2007-03-21 16:13:43
10.   Jon Weisman
I think most players play for the love of the game in contrast to their love of garbage collecting. But while getting the love, they also want to get as many bucks as they can.
2007-03-21 16:13:46
11.   Xeifrank
Opportunity knocks. Will Guo answer?
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:14:16
12.   trainwreck
Steve Phillips just said that if Randy Johnson is healthy and effective then the D-Backs have the most pitching depth in the NL West.
2007-03-21 16:16:55
13.   Greg S
10 True dat.
2007-03-21 16:17:01
14.   D4P
or the interest of the public must be increased in some way

Or the size of the public must be increased, which has happened pretty dramatically since 1881, probably more so than Albert Spalding anticipated.

2007-03-21 16:18:06
15.   Xeifrank
12. yeah sure, if he's healthy and effective.
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:19:18
16.   Bob Timmermann
Players playing for the love of the game:

Exhibit A:

The defense rests its case your honor, but reserves the right to reopen.

2007-03-21 16:19:40
17.   Xeifrank
is that mlb boxscore link "live" for anybody? It still reads all zeros for me. How is the game going? Is it going?
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:20:41
18.   Greg S
16. So only Steve Lyons?
2007-03-21 16:21:14
19.   Steve
Never let it be said that Larry Bud Melman did it for anything but the comedy.
2007-03-21 16:21:25
20.   underdog
I think even if RJ is healthy and effective, the D-Backs still don't have as much pitching depth as the Dodgers, as far as starters go. But it's Steve Phillips.

Well, Reyes just created that run purely by distracting Kuo for a base at a time.

2007-03-21 16:21:45
21.   Bob Timmermann
In 1881, professional baseball wasn't an easy sell. It wasn't attracting the greatest class of fans.
2007-03-21 16:21:49
22.   regfairfield
12 It's an interesting case. While Bills and Kuo are certainly better than Dana Eveland and Micah Owings, should the Dodgers really get credit for depth when they're starting worse pitchers. If we wanted to compare Wolf, Tomko, Hendrickson and Houlton to Eveland, Owings, Dustin Nippert and Juan Cruz, I'm not sure if the Dodgers would come out ahead.
2007-03-21 16:22:09
23.   underdog
Xei, Kuo struck out Delgado. But after he wild pitched Reyes home from 3rd. After he'd stolen 2nd. After reaching on an infield single.
2007-03-21 16:22:48
24.   Jon Weisman
17 - Yeah, it's more like a comatose boxscore.

19 - "DeForest also starred in his own homevideo, "Couch Potato Workout," released in 1989. He also appeared in dozens of films and television shows, including "Heaven Help Us," "Nothing Lasts Forever" and "The First Time." "

"DeForest was born in Brooklyn and was a Broadway, opera and film enthusiast."

2007-03-21 16:22:52
25.   Andrew Shimmin
It's just a spring training game. But I think Kuo should think about putting one in Reyes' ear, next time he bats.
2007-03-21 16:24:36
26.   regfairfield
25 Jeff Francis did that and got suspended for five real games.
2007-03-21 16:25:36
27.   Jon Weisman
I think the boxscore updates after every completed half-inning.
2007-03-21 16:28:59
28.   Xeifrank
20. I think they do. A healthy and effective RJ would probably give them the 2 of the top 3 pitchers in the division, if not the top 2 imo. Three thru 6 are up there with the Dodgers and Padres. vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:31:28
29.   Andrew Shimmin
Is there really talk of moving La Roche to the OF? I don't remember hearing that before.
2007-03-21 16:31:46
30.   regfairfield
Is this La Roche in the outfield thing a new development?
2007-03-21 16:32:02
31.   blue22
28 - I think Matt Cain slots somewhere in that top-6.
2007-03-21 16:33:40
32.   Xeifrank
two strikeouts, no walks, an infield hit and a wild-pitch for Guo. Not bad.
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:33:43
33.   bhsportsguy
29 No, he has played a few innings there but I think right now its more about getting some at bats, he is going to play 3B in Vegas.
2007-03-21 16:34:49
34.   blue22
29/30 - There was this, last month:

2007-03-21 16:35:22
35.   regfairfield
28 That's actually a pretty interesting question. Here's how I would rank them:

1. Webb
2. Peavy
3. Johnson
4. Schmidt
5. Cain
6. Lowe

2007-03-21 16:35:32
36.   bhsportsguy
32 But I think he needs to get some easier, i.e., lower pitch count innings or else he is just a 5 inning pitcher and that will be his problem in the competition for the 5th spot.
2007-03-21 16:35:58
37.   trainwreck
Even if RJ becomes effective, I do not think he will reach the level of being top 3 in the division. I would assume Webb, Lowe, Peavy, Cain, and Young all out perform him.
2007-03-21 16:36:21
38.   trainwreck
Can throw Schmidt in there too.
2007-03-21 16:36:29
39.   Andrew Shimmin
Both wild pitches were legitimately wild, but it doesn't look like Lieberthal is breaking his back trying to stop them.
2007-03-21 16:36:49
40.   bhsportsguy
35 Randy Johnson is going have to do something in April because his trip to New York wasn't all that encouraging.
2007-03-21 16:36:51
41.   blue22
35 - $126M just doesn't buy what it used to...
2007-03-21 16:38:00
42.   Steve
I would trade eight Randy Johnsons for Matt Cain. Six for Chad Billingsley.
2007-03-21 16:38:43
43.   Michael D
Kuo is making too many pitches here. He's never going to make it as a starter if he can't consistently go 6 innings.
2007-03-21 16:39:05
44.   Andrew Shimmin
34- Right, but that read as Jon spitballing; not, as Vin just did, reporting that the FO was thinking about moving him.
2007-03-21 16:40:49
45.   Steve
43 - et tu, Tomdrickson?
2007-03-21 16:41:28
46.   Xeifrank
35. Hard to argue with that.
37. I guess it all depends on the definition of the term "effective". RJ was a bad luck pitcher last year and moves from the hard hitting AL East to the light weight NL West.

I just don't see anything outrageous with the statement that the DBacks have the most pitching depth in the NL West. I'd say you could put the Dodgers, Padres and DBacks in a hat and pick the best pitching depth. The Giants and Rockies are in a pitching upswing, but still a tier or two below the others imo.
vr, Xei

2007-03-21 16:41:37
47.   Andrew Shimmin
Lieberthal just saved WP number three. So, shut my mouth.
2007-03-21 16:43:46
48.   Xeifrank
47. Maybe the Dodgers should have two catchers when Guo pitches. One to catch the strikes and the other to backup on the wild pitches. Too bad it's illegal. :)
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:46:31
49.   trainwreck
I just think Johnson will lose something after back surgery. I think we have the most depth, because we have guys like Meloan and Miller who we can call upon during the season (and probably Kuo), but it is true that we seem to be using the wrong guys.
2007-03-21 16:47:56
50.   Andrew Shimmin
48- I think he's just establishing an alibi for when he puts one in Reyes' ear.
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2007-03-21 16:49:35
51.   Jon Weisman
La Roche could be this year's Joel Guzman.
2007-03-21 16:49:40
52.   trainwreck
Tomko probably offered him money.
2007-03-21 16:50:35
53.   trainwreck
So we are going to trade him for Ty Wiggington?
2007-03-21 16:50:39
54.   StolenMonkey86
51 - I shudder to think who the next Julio Lugo is, then
2007-03-21 16:51:13
55.   regfairfield
51 So we're going to trade La Roche and Xavier Paul for Juan Uribe?
2007-03-21 16:52:02
56.   Michael D
If La Roche gets traded for some rental or crappy vet, Colletti should be fired on the spot.
2007-03-21 16:52:58
57.   blue22
51 - In respect to position-switching or getting-thrown-under-the-bus-by-management?
2007-03-21 16:55:27
58.   Xeifrank
49. fair enough, but the original premise was that he was healthy and effective.
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 16:59:01
59.   trainwreck
Yeah, as you said it depends on term effective. I think he can be effective, without being an ace-type pitcher.
2007-03-21 16:59:50
60.   Jon Weisman
57 - I was saving this for a separate post, but basically, high hopes, rated a top prospect, doesn't look as good when you see him in person, doesn't quite seem to keep improving, position changes are contemplated, makeup is questioned. If he doesn't come out smoking in Las Vegas, a trade wouldn't shock me at all - except for the fact that there's no La Roche behind him in the system. Or can someone like DeWitt play third?

Not to be alarmist or anything. I don't really have anything to back this up.

2007-03-21 16:59:55
61.   Jacob L
51 Boy, that provoked a bit of a reaction.
2007-03-21 17:00:39
62.   Jon Weisman
Remember, everyone, Tomko went three innings in his last start. He's not exactly a six-inning guy yet.
2007-03-21 17:03:48
63.   regfairfield
60 Guzman's development had sort of stalled from 2004-2006, La Roche has gotten better every year. I don't think it's a valid comparison yet.
2007-03-21 17:04:22
64.   trainwreck
La Roche has shown far more in the minors than Joel did. He has improved a lot when it comes to patience. Plus, Logan White believes in him, so I think that helps his chances. White even said that La Roche does not seem to perform well in spring training. In addition, he is coming off surgery.
2007-03-21 17:04:39
65.   bhsportsguy
60 From a small sample, he did well at Vegas, in over 200 plate appearances, .322/.400/.550 with 10 homers so if he repeats that, he should be fine.

Again, for Kuo, his last two outings, the unofficial one with Boston and today is sure giving Ned and Grady plenty of reasons to send him down to Vegas to start the season.

2007-03-21 17:05:06
66.   Xeifrank
I have a gut feeling that Guo has to outpitch Tomdrickson by atleast 25% to become the 5th starter. Given the way things are going, I just don't see that happening this spring training. I think Guo's wildness will be what gives the initial 5th starter spot to Tomdrickson. What really gets me is, why not make Billingsley the 5th starter, if you don't plan on making Guo the 5th starter any time soon. A couple assu-mptions in there, but...
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 17:06:00
67.   bhsportsguy
62 But isn't it more likely that Tomko could be used in pen during that time when they don't need a 5th starter while Kuo really needs to start.
2007-03-21 17:07:48
68.   Curtis Lowe
Dont the Dodgers have someone in camp that has only given up 1 run so far? I could have sworn they had a guy that was dominant last august until he got hurt. Maybe I'm thinking of some other team.
2007-03-21 17:08:47
69.   trainwreck
It is just mind boggling how they can forget about the end of last season like it never happened. Kuo was like an ace towards the end of the season and Tomko was a middle reliever.
2007-03-21 17:12:14
70.   Michael D
Anybody listening to Vin talking about Michael Barrett saying what a smart base stealer Pierre is? Shouldn't his success rate be a little higher if he is so great at timing pitchers?
2007-03-21 17:13:11
71.   Xeifrank
69. Guo dominated like no other last September. (SFW)
It's still early, perhaps he will pull it together later.
vr, Xei
2007-03-21 17:13:19
72.   bhsportsguy
69 But anyone can have a three or four good starts, Kuo hadn't started in many years and he needed to show that it wasn't just a one time deal.

And just as we should not read into Spring Training, you shouldn't automatically read too much into 4-5 starts.

2007-03-21 17:14:21
73.   Jacob L
For all Vin's virtues, he's not getting wise on Pierre anytime soon. He's the next best thing since Pedro Feliz.
2007-03-21 17:15:10
74.   natepurcell
Laroche takes it to the wall. oh well. please dont trade him :(
2007-03-21 17:15:54
75.   trainwreck
Yeah, but it is between Kuo and Tomko. We already know what Tomko is. If this was between him and Bills it would be different.

I still think regular season games mean a bit more than Spring Training games.

2007-03-21 17:21:01
76.   Jacob L
I think we all know what's going on here. Tomko is going to make the rotation based on veteran deference. Its written in stone, and no amount of angst on our part is going to make it any different.

At least Grady isn't likely to go all Tracy/Nomo on us and allow the veterans to pitch us out of the playoffs before they pitch themselves out of a job.

2007-03-21 17:23:05
77.   trainwreck
Why must we always have to wait for injuries or the team going in the tank before the right moves are finally made?
2007-03-21 17:23:18
78.   bhsportsguy
75 Then it becomes roster decisions and money and also, Ned's position seems to be, especially when it comes to guys not coming up to replace injured guys, they need to "kick down the door" and outside of Loney, no prospect (I'll exclude Valdez and Abreau) has had that kind of spring.

If Kuo had shown some ability to pitch 4-5 innings now and not constantly have guys on base, he would have shown that last year was not a fluke. But has he faces more regular players in his last two starts, he has not pitched effectively.

Tomko is what he is but unless he is traded, he is not going anywhere. I still think there is a chance for a move.

2007-03-21 17:24:04
79.   Steve
Please tell me that 72 is some kind of devilish irony, because its just crying out to get Plaschked.
2007-03-21 17:25:32
80.   Sam DC
That's true about the bacon in a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich, Jon, but I'm wondering if there's room for a whole salmon inside this Santa Suit.
2007-03-21 17:28:39
81.   Steve
Tomko has been proving he sucks for a decade. Would that anyone be as solicitous of others' careers as we have had to be of this nonentity on whom fortune, and nothing else, has shined.
2007-03-21 17:29:54
82.   bhsportsguy
77 Last year during all the injuries to the pitching staff, Billingsley was called up and he frankly struggled but they were patient and even when guys got healthy, he stayed in the rotation until he had to be shut down for a while.

Are the right moves handing in OF job to Kemp right now? Is it wise based on this spring to play La Roche at 3B in Dodger Stadium this April.

When it comes to the back end of the rotation unfortunately, the Dodgers are contractually obligated to Tomko, Hendrickson and Dessens, Dessens already being told like Chad that he is going to be in the pen.

Overall, I think that it will shake out in the first couple of months of the season, the real problem will be if we ever have Tomko, Dessens and Hendrickon all in the rotation.

2007-03-21 17:31:48
83.   bhsportsguy
Last year, the Dodgers showed that they were willing to move Tomko out of the rotation, so if that has to happen, I think it will.
2007-03-21 17:32:06
84.   Jacob L
So, looks like the Tomato got a hit. Is he looking "as fit as ever" this spring?
2007-03-21 17:33:04
85.   trainwreck
Who cares about spring training? La Roche should be at third because of his minor league track record.
2007-03-21 17:33:11
86.   natepurcell

the tomato looks ripe.

2007-03-21 17:34:08
87.   regfairfield
The only veterans who lost their jobs entirely because they stunk were Hendrickson, and Odalis, and it was pretty clear the organization didn't really like Odalis. The rest of the rookies only got opportunities because of injuries.

If Tomko survives the season and puts up Tomko type numbers, I don't see him leaving the rotation.

2007-03-21 17:35:29
88.   Curtis Lowe
86- zING!
2007-03-21 17:41:05
89.   Sam DC
Man Dmitri Young's face is gigantic. It just goes on and on.

"That's no face, it's a space station."

2007-03-21 17:43:48
90.   Jacob L
Dmitri Young is on the list of reasons I love baseball. I love the giant face, the name, the Tigers do-rag (is he still a Tiger?), and the fact that he can play the field as well as any Little Leaguer.
2007-03-21 17:45:42
91.   trainwreck
He is a National.

They really could not think of a better name than Nationals?

2007-03-21 17:47:14
92.   Jacob L
Citizens? Partisans?
2007-03-21 17:49:46
93.   twerp
A bit OT...Terry A, if you're around, noticed this on Tony Jackson's bio on his blog, which of course you might know already===

"He (Jackson) is a native of Springdale, Ark., and a graduate of the University of Arkansas, although he refuses to root for the Razorbacks again until Frank Broyles is finally out of there."

Isn't he about to get his wish? Didn't Frank announce his retirement?

2007-03-21 17:51:22
94.   D4P
Just another non-walk for Pierre
2007-03-21 17:55:39
95.   Greg S
On Vin and Pierre...
There still is a divide between those who are stat minded and those who go on what they see. This site has helped convert me more than ever towards stats. But I think Vin is the epitome of going on how a player looks and Pierre is the epitome of a player who appears better than he is.
2007-03-21 17:56:45
96.   Woody
I was all excited that I was going to Vero this week to see the Dodgers play the Cards, Mets, and Orioles. Fortunately, my wife and I were too sick to go, and had to cancel. I was really upset, but now glad that I didn't waste more $ than the ticket prices. This team is making me nauseous!
2007-03-21 18:00:46
97.   Greg S
96. There it is, the first post giving up on the team! And before opening day... now that's edgy.
2007-03-21 18:02:37
98.   natepurcell
billingsley had a good 6th inning. hopefully he will have a plethora of good 6th innings this year.
2007-03-21 18:03:36
99.   Curtis Lowe
98-How good?
2007-03-21 18:04:40
100.   natepurcell

sexy time good.

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2007-03-21 18:05:24
101.   Curtis Lowe
Happy time boba ya bubble tea good?
2007-03-21 18:06:01
102.   natepurcell
great AB by laroche. Battle to 3-2 and rips a line drive but wright took a hit away from him. oh well. Andy has looked good in the two ABs i saw today.
2007-03-21 18:10:43
103.   natepurcell
billingsley throws a 10 pitch inning and gets taken out for hamulack...i hope that doesnt happen in games that matter.
2007-03-21 18:17:18
104.   Curtis Lowe
103- What a Stat padderer.
2007-03-21 18:17:24
105.   CanuckDodger
Billingsley pitched the sixth inning?'s has Dessens pitching in the 6th, with 2.2 innings under his belt.
2007-03-21 18:17:45
106.   Jon Weisman
95 - The thing with Vin is that even though that's true, he doesn't take potshots at the player whose value isn't apparent through conventional observation. And that's what makes his blind spots, even at around age 80, so forgivable.

And though Vin will marvel at Pierre's play, he will also note the Dodgers' lack of power. And as far as Gonzalez goes, Vin is not someone who tends to say that he'll help the Dodgers just through veteran presence. If Gonzalez hits .250 with a handful of home runs, Vin will notice.

2007-03-21 18:18:59
107.   natepurcell

dessens went 4th and 5th and billz went the 6th.

or im just going crazy.

2007-03-21 18:20:32
108.   natepurcell
this game is boring, im about to turn it off and drink beers.
2007-03-21 18:21:21
109.   Michael D
What I've always loved about Vin is at the end of the year, when the Dodgers have invariably disappointed again, he tears into the team. Always fun to hear that.
2007-03-21 18:25:37
110.   natepurcell
holy crap burgos is 245lbs now?!?!? I remember him 2-3 years ago in KC where he was a tall, skinny, lanky, flame thrower.
2007-03-21 18:26:48
111.   Jon Weisman
109 - Huh?
2007-03-21 18:30:14
112.   Greg S
109 Is that Bizzaro Vin from another universe? The Vin I know does indeed dislike players. You'll know it because he'll never mentions them.
2007-03-21 19:06:32
113.   Andrew Shimmin
I wish Kuo would stick one in the ear of whoever's manning that bell.
2007-03-21 19:07:49
114.   D4P
For whom is that bell tolling, anway?
2007-03-21 19:08:05
115.   D4P
Yes, anway.
2007-03-21 19:10:48
116.   Andrew Shimmin
You're not supposed to ask.
2007-03-21 19:21:37
117.   twerp
Speaking of Bizarro, or at least bizarre...

The MLB boxscore for tonight's game says Saenz went 1 for 2 at 1B and PITCHED the 9th?

How about maybe Seanez?

2007-03-21 19:28:15
118.   Woody
96- Edgy, perhaps. But, I'm not giving up. Just glad that I didn't spend 11 hours driving to Vero from where I live, when I could ENJOY these two games on Mlb.TV with my neck in traction.
2007-03-21 19:34:01
119.   underdog
117 I just noticed that, too! Did a total double-take. Given the # of pitchers they have available in spring the odds of them being that desperate were fairly slim.

So what's the deal, did Dessens get lit up? I wonder if there really is a chance they'll rid themselves of him.

2007-03-21 19:52:43
120.   Gen3Blue
Someone keeps scoring Saenz as a pitcher, usually for Saito.
It seems like our only consistent hitters are Valdez and Loney.
But truly, now is the time to have a horrendous losing streak, as it is common knowledge that if you combine our pre-season, season, and post-season games, we will be a bit above .500.
If Penny and Shmidt are as wounded as they appear, it may not be much above .500, but it is still better to lose in ST when we our testing our most marginal players.
Don't despair--we have plenty of youngsters to plug in for injured vets, and that is ace for this team!
2007-03-21 19:53:13
121.   Terry A
93 - I knew Jackson was a UA alum, but I had no idea he hated Broyles so. Broyles is far too easy a target... real Hog fans hate Houston Nutt.

But yes, Broyles has announced his retirement -- most likely a forced one -- effective at year end.

2007-03-21 19:59:13
122.   Bob Timmermann
Next thing you know they'll start putting people from Arkansas in charge of the country.
2007-03-21 20:08:43
123.   Terry A
That'll be the day.
2007-03-21 20:13:05
124.   StolenMonkey86
120 - You mean Olmedo didn't pitch a perfect 9th with a strikeout?
2007-03-21 20:15:41
125.   Bob Timmermann
Arkansas is one of the elite group of states I've never visited.

The question is: why should I go there?

Please submit reasons for visiting Arkansas to me. Limit your essays to under 500 words.

2007-03-21 20:22:27
126.   Icaros
I went to a cool wax museum in Hot Springs, Arkansas once. At least it seemed cool twenty-some years ago.

Oh, I had a good Slush Puppie there, too.

2007-03-21 20:25:30
127.   Disabled List
They don't use more than 500 words in most parts of Arkansas.
2007-03-21 20:48:06
128.   JoeyP
this game is boring, im about to turn it off and drink beers.

Thats like my mid-season form.

2007-03-21 21:18:36
129.   Gen3Blue
I'm for mid-season form, and I'm getting close.
124 He may be like the Babe--he can pitch and hit for power.
125 you should go because the Clintons once ruled there and I think there are some great caverns. If not, there should be some good stills!
2007-03-21 21:46:50
130.   Marty
I think that's the funniest post I've seen from Joey. good job.
2007-03-21 22:03:08
131.   underdog
Mike's post, er rant, about the Phillies makes me appreciate the Dodgers situation more. Whatever the current regime's flaws, things seem in better hands than they do with the Phils - who are a good team in a lot of ways but there have been some head-scratching moves and signings there. I also thought releasing Justin Germano was a mistake. And their starting pitching is... odd. And they should have gotten more for Abreu. And should have either traded Burrell or been a lot happier publicly with him. And so on. Anyway, good read over there, Mike.

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