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He hit it and that ain't all!
He stole home!
Yeah, yeah, Jackie's real gone...
Made Jackie walk
Stole second, third,
Came home on a balk!
Jackie he stole home
Now they tell about it
Right here in this poem!
the crowd went wild,
because he knocked that ball a solid mile.
Yeah boy, yes, yes. Jackie hit that ball.
so is Campanella,
Newcombe and Doby, too.
But it's a natural fact,
when Jackie comes to bat,
the other team is through.
Count Basie co-wrote that ditty.
Stan Musial had a great year too, but since the Dodgers won the pennant by a game, Robinson got 12 of the 24 first place votes.
Musial got 5, Slaughter got 2 as did Reese and Furillo.
Some guy voted for Ken Heintzelman too.
It's a little-known fact that voters relied heavily upon Jackie's 152 OPS+ that year.
Without Jackie, True Yankees like Derek and Bernie might never have become True Yankees.
He said blocking for Robinson was a challenge because Jackie was fast and strong and if a lineman didn't open up a hole fast enough, Robinson thought nothing of "running up our backsides." My grandfather used another word besides "backsides."
He also said Robinson was "pretty wild" off the field. I didn't have the presence of mind at the time to ask him to elaborate and I'm kind of glad I didn't.
Jackie just appeared to be better.
That didn't sound right. Robinson and Musial were both very good in 1949 but I think the voters probably thought that Robinson because of his speed and playing a middle infield position looked more valuable than Musial, an outfielder.
A Panasonic TC-26LX70.
I don't know if Pete Seeger's face benefits from HD right now.
And will Aimee Mann be on hand to make the announcement?
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I like Dusty Baker's pick of Rickie Weeks as current player who most resembles Jackie Robinson as a player. Steve Phillips' pick was Craig Biggio...
You could be the first to review it on Amazon!
http://tinyurl.com/3at8ga
I assume it involved drunk girls...
He had a zip front jersey when he started in 1947.
I'm not above practicing what I preach.
Being first just makes you more of a loser.
I can make exceptions. I can be the bigger person!
At least give us the best Wayans brother (Damon), although Marlon's probably the 2nd most talented of the bunch.
But I'm sure the fans are enjoying this from the parking lot.
Enjoy the game everybody, and happy Jackie Robinson Day!
I like Bach's Toccata and Fugue in Vin Scully.
Have we turned into Red Sox fans?
That was pretty amusing when Vin quieted everyone down like a schoolteacher - that was great, though, he was thinking, "This is Jackie's day, not mine - stop!"
All in all I was quite touched by the whole ceremony and even Selig didn't get on my nerves too much. Now I hope the Dodgers can concentrate on the game, that Chris Young will be distracted by his oft-mentioned thesis, and we can have a good game.
(Oops, I meant 65 above.)
And who wanted to see Jose Cruz Jr. again? Any early predictions on what he'll do tonight back in LA?
Freudian slip...?
What is it with people? Why is it so exciting for adults to think they might be glimpsed on television?
absolutely not a 6 violation, either. It was the most aggravating baseball viewing experience of my life. I have no idea the outcome o the game, butI'll never forget the woman.
Meanwhile is anyone else really freaked out by how tall CYoung is?? I think his legs are each bigger than Pierre!
I'm sure someone has tried. Pete Rose has the record for most times reaching on CI in a career.
....was Bud Black particularly good or bad at holding runners on, does anybody of his vintage remember?
no
terrible
Black was a lefty.
I guess he still is a lefty.
There's probably a Dave Dravecky joke in there somewhere...
Dios Mio.
sidebar- has Cruz Jr always sported those fantastic stirrups?
From something.
But Winfield is pushing the book hard.
http://tinyurl.com/372gtj
I won't be reviewing Winfield's book for the Griddle. But I plan on reviewing Sheffield's.
It must be aging, and I am really disturbed by it, but I think I am beginning to accept Joe and maybe....... Ohhh lord. Maybe you should shoot me now..
And LaRoche's seat in AAA-Durham
The Dodgers won the game 7-5.
Two others Dodgers reached on catcher's interference in 2005: Jason Grabowski and Olmedo Saenz.
Rafael Furcal had never reached on CI before.
They were both there.
Jon Miller is out of his element.
I thought it was an excellent question.
and how about that slide by Wolfie to break up that double play??
Could be that Pierre has just played with the cap under his helmet for most of his life and he used to it.
When I was at UCLA yesterday looking for a UCLA baseball cap that would fit my big casaba melon of a head, but I had to really dig around for one. I think every student at UCLA must have a Juan Pierre head.
I hope there's a lefty pitching if Pierre tries that.
And the only lefty on the Padres is David Wells.
That could be a sticking point in any future bilateral talks between Dodger Thoughts and Ducksnorts.
Chris Young was just obliging ESPN to allow more time for the Rachel Robinson interview.
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Gee, someone ought to tape a bunch of interviews with her, Hank Aron, and all the other greats of the game who are still around and have them on hand from MLB when there's a rain delay. Nothing like hearing from the living legends of the game about history of the game to make you appreciate what a great game baseball is even more.
Cut and paste that comment for tomorrow when the Dodgers go to Arizona.
That was an historic night in the annals of DT.
I learned that Marty is, in fact, a real person.
Leela: You mean, keep your eye on the ball.
Hank Aaron XXIV: Hey lady, which one of us is in the Hall of Fame.
Fry: Psst! You're holding the bat upside-down.
well, at least so far.
The Dodgers have really been running wild this year. I know Grits likes to be aggressive on the basepaths, but I don't think the Dodgers were running nearly this much last season.
Chris Young wisely walks the pitcher, again.
Do they ask Mr. Aaron about Bonds?
Aaron doesn't want to talk about Bonds unless you employ Jack Bauer like interrogation tactics.
"I know all about you agent Bauer"
"Then you know what I'm going to do to you"
And nor is there any for Welday Walker.
Pierre hit what very well could have been an RBI-grounder. Can't blame him for the throw home.
It's a complicated relationship.
42% of MLB players were born outside of America. So blacks constitute 14% of American born MLB players. Blacks represent 12% of the general US population.
There's a crisis here, but it's a crisis of logic. If this where we need to look for racism then I think it's time to call an end to the civil rights movement. Also, why is it a bad thing if more blacks are dreaming of careers outside of the slim chance of becomming a professional athlete?
Very great.
What I wonder is, why aren't there more African-American broadcasters?
I respect what he has accomplished as a baseball player (statistically), but I can't stand him (for obvious reasons).
Because then you end up with guys like Joe Morgan and Rod Allen.
Tony Gwynn is pretty good.
I don't know.
UCLA had not swept a 3-game series from USC in 20 years.
Loved hearing Henry Aaron speak. Such a classy guy.
judging from Don Newcombe's old pics, He's one dude I wouldn't wanna mess with.He's got that "Rumble YOUNG MAN RUMBLE" look about him.
Yeah, I've been touched by listening to the old guys, despite my initial impatience at wanting to hear talk of the game in progress. Pretty silly on my part when you think about it. (It's not like on MNF when the co-star of Alias appears in the booth during the game to plug their show.)
They must have done something right - even cranky Yankees fans think so:
(from BronxBanter)
"582. Vandelay Industries
I live in LA now, and generally don't have anything nice to say about the Dodgers, their ownership, or their fans. But they did a pretty good job honoring Jackie tonight."
I feel so proud! {sniff}
He's swinging away 3-1 in his 1st AB and he's singled in his last 2 AB's.
Chapman had played briefly on the Dodgers in 1944 and 1945.
229- I know that name. I indeed have read not so nice things
I still think the slow stretching out of this game and Joe Morgan could sink us, but I'm enjoying it anyway.
I propose a similar rule be instituted for Juan Pierre.
He managed some atrocious Phillies team and was out of a job midway through the 1948 season.
Two years later, Eddie Sawyer got the Phillies to the World Series.
He really seems to consistently be "off" in the first inning or so and then clamps down, each game.
http://tinyurl.com/2mqodl
Lakers-55
Sonics-46
Kobe with 22.
Sigh. Jose Cruz, {{mumble}}
Really? I never found the need to add even more offense to that game (my favorite ever).
Newcombe was ROY in 1949.
Bob wants you to add an apostrophe to your handle.
Maybe it's about a guy named Kingmans.
Hindsight and Monday Morning Quarterbacking are always 20/20. LOL..
Frank Robinson & his season tickets will be happy of the news. :o)
Wouldn't that still require an apostrophe, after the s?
Nomar and Kent both made outs, Gonzalez singled, and Martin flew out to left.
I'm trying not to be as doctrinaire tonight.
Placing bets on when Ken Arneson gives it an IP ban...
"On April 22 the Dodgers played Philadelphia. Led by manager Ben Chapman, whose racist views were common knowledge, hate poured out of the Phillies dugout, Robinson wrote in his autobiography, I Never Had It Made:
" 'Hey, n-----, why don't you go back to the cotton field where you belong?' 'They're waiting for you in the jungles, black boy!' 'Hey, snowflake, which one of those white boys' wives are you dating tonight?' 'Go back to the bushes!'
"For three days they spewed their venom, adding Robinson's teammates to their taunts. Finally, second baseman Eddie Stanky rushed the Phillies dugout and shouted: 'Listen, you yellow-bellied cowards, why don't you yell at someone who can answer back?'
"Rickey said Chapman's abuse 'unified 30 men, not one of whom was willing to sit by and see someone kick around a man who had his hands tied behind his back. Chapman made Jackie a real member of the Dodgers.' "
Of course, you have HDTV. Life has new meaning for you now.
OUCH!
That was a freak hop.
Yes, but he was actually at Ebbetts Field for that first game as he was on his way to his minor league assignment in New Hampshire.
Jon, feel free to delete this post, and I apologize, but I can't believe this person. What kind of a mentality goes to so much trouble to taunt/hound/stalk someone he disagrees with in that manner? Then he tries to pass himself off as just another poster after ripping everyone here elsewhere. I just don't get it.
I LOVE THIS PEN!!
Perhaps he thinks in Spanish.
BOOYA.
Eric Gregg would like to have a word with you. Or he would, if he was, you know, alive and stuff.
Maybe that's what he thinks, but it is not true.
Of course, if there were a stereotype that African-Americans are repetitive and annoying, I'd agree with you 100%--
I wonder what Ralph Wiley and Arthur Ashe would think about his schtick. I'm guessing they wouldn't like it very much, but I could be wrong.
Lakers-81
Sonics-74
Kobe with 40.
It even has a special slot on its front, so you can look like Princess Leia transmitting secret Death Star blueprints as you send a letter to your favorite pen pal or inmate.
We're on our way to 8-4 and Pierre has been scrubby. Just wait till he gets hot. These are great times to be a Dodger fan. This is fun. We'll be in the postseson for the rest of this decade. Rest assured.
ToyCannon sits in a similar area, but in the loge.
This is what we call a quandry.
In "DO THE RIGHT THING"
2-games in Arizona
2-games in Colorado
Then back home against the Pirates.
Now Saito-San can't start the inning and get the save.
Russell continues his "Hit While ESPN Blathers About Something Else" tear tonight.
Ethier's having a good game.
NICE homer by #42!!!
I'm so glad to see Ethier tear it up tonight.
I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!!
I would've too. I wonder how much of Rickey's actions were about his vision for the game and how much of his actions were about exploring an untapped source of baseball talent.
I imagine it was a little of both.
Wait until I plow through the new Rickey bio that's out.
345
He was warmed up and ready to go, so you might as well use him.
Still tough being a black man.
ESPN went even one further today. They completely ignored that the Padres were playing.
No wonder Ned got rid of him.
We're on pace for 108-54. Keep truckin' boys. Destination - home field for the playoffs 2007.
good game!
Hey, we won. Bowen had a night he'd like to forget. Nice, go into Arizona in a battle for 1st place (in the relatively meaningless early part of the season).
It's been fun fellow DTers, what a terrific way to spend Jackie Robinson Day! :)
344 - Watch the movie that Bob T (i think?) gave us the other day. It tells you pretty definitively...that it was a little of both.
well, hes been on the DL since the start of the season. So who knows. I think it means hes not going to be a brave much longer.
http://tinyurl.com/2npeyb
He was playing for the Lakers, and scoring 48 points on 17-23 shooting to set up Lakers-Suns II.
It'll be interesting to see how long it takes Grady to move Pierre to the 8th spot in the lineup. I'm picking May 1st (only because I'm already on record that it's unlikely to happen in April. :-) )
Great game. Great pre-game. I don't know if TV picked it up but there was a pretty good chorus of "Barry Sucks" when Hammerin Hank was introduced. Bob, you'll be glad to know it seemed like no cared about Frank Robinson but I think that had more to do with being introduced with Aaron. Rachel Robinson is still all there and gave a very nice speech. Ernie Banks sitting nearby. He is getting old but he is old. Vin got a huge ovation. Bud Sileg always looks like he accidently swigged some buttermilk. Could have done without Jesse Jackson appearence but I'll leave it at that so as to not violate Rule 5.
Great effort by the team. Russal Martin is so much fun to watch the guy is all hustle. A 2 out pop-up and he is jamming around the bases full tilt. If Valdez keeps this up (whcih he won't) will Betemit ever play again.
Two questions:
1. Was Valdez double really a HR? It looked like it was out.
2. What happened to the ball boy. I was sitting on the first base line and could'nt see it. It looked like the ball was not moving very fast or hard to injure him.
You'd rather be in the lottery, though, right?
2. The ball took a crazy hop and hit him in the face. He went down, like Bob said, like a knocked out boxer.
Doesn't that violate the whole Amish thing?
My Oden to the Lakers, Bynum/Lamar/2008 1st for Garnett has gone up in smoke.
How would they have gotten Oden with such a small number of lottery balls?
Keep up, old man. :-)
I'm sure he's cool with Oden going to Boston.
So, was Barry asked and declined, or did MLB just completely avoid him?
But, quack, quack, quack.
I'm glad the Lakers won. I was sort of rooting, too, for the Warriors to make the final playoff spot over the Clippers, just so I don't have to hear bay area hoops fans whine all through the off-season again, but...
Okay, I'm gonna settle down with a nice relaxing DVD before bed - Last King of Scotland. Cheers, all. See you 'virtually from Arizona.'
First go through the food line (prior to the pre-game events, 3 minutes) Second go through (5th inning, about a whole inning).
Getting out the stadium, again left at the top of the ninth, so it took about 5-6 minutes from walking from the gate to the car and in about 3 minutes was out on Sunset.
Again, I have not tried getting their within 30-45 minutes before the game nor have sat in my seat for the last out so I can't tell you how that compares but so far, for me, no problem.
Crowd was pretty respectful about the event, I thought it was well done, Hank Aaron got a well-deserved ovation (Bob, much better than Frank Robinson) Biggest ovation, I will give a tie to Rachel Robinson and Vin Scully.
Anthem and God Bless America were performed very well by Jennifer Hudson and Nicole Robinson (a UCLA student and Robison scholarship awardee).
Atmostphere was great but again, I think I am in a more family area (Infield reserve, behind home plate).
Finally, a nice little rivalry with the Friars from the Dodger side appears to be happening so it should make the rest of the games pretty entertaining.
(i aplogize if its been mentioned... i just got home from the game... skimmed the thread and no one seems to have said anything... maybe it wasn't evident from the espn broadcast.)
they played deep purple's "smoke on the water" as saito came in, while doegervision showed clips of him pitching interspersed with live footage of people in the crowd dancing.
it was haunting and excellent. great closer music.
[BTW - from the preferred lot next to the 3rd base side reserved section, it took less than a half hour to get home to the Pico-Robertson neighborhood, using 110S-->10W. Not bad.]
I am sure that this was done to complete the first go around through the division but it did create some short trips and homestands.
Got to the park at around 4:30 and hardly had to wait to get my parking pass from the Academy exit. For some reason I was given a preferred parking pass and had no problem getting to Lot I. After the game, it took no time at all to leave the actual parking lot, but it took about 20 minutes to finally get to the freeway. There were only about half of the original crowd left by the end of the game so there weren't a ton of cars to deal with. Overall it was a pleasant experience, but tonight wasn't the best gauge.
The reason it is important to encourage black players back into baseball today is that same reason it was important in 1947...to fight prejudices. Each year millions of fans attend baseball games, follow their favorite players, and develop heroes. There is no greater barrier to prejudice than having a hero of another race. Really, the goal shouldn't be simply encouraging more black athletes, but increasing diversity of all races. And fortunately we live in an era when we are able to see an integration of black, white, Asian, and Latino players. That diversity should continue to be encouraged.
Sometimes we tend to think that fighting prejudices has an end goal; when the country is color-blind, the fight is over. Unfortunately, it appears that fear of those different from ourselves is a primal trait of humans. Without perpetual suppression, humanity's fears can rise again. However, it is a trait we can make impotent, with constant vigilance. Baseball provides a medium whereby our children can see players of all races working together, as a team, helping, motivating, and competing with each other in a positive and constructive way.
And of course, there are OTHER directions we could go in talking about why African-Americans are a smaller presence in the majors today, but those directions, when explored, inevitably result in irrational cries of "racism," so it might be best not to go there, even though it would be very interesting to "go there."
That was a pretty fantastic baseball game. I believe in all the sabermetric stuff about the value of stolen bases, but man, they sure are fun to watch. Russell Martin has done at least one really impressive thing in every game he's played this year. Every single one.
Also, I read over the threads and I haven't seen any mention of this: Is it just m -- er, let me rephrase that -- did anyone else see Derek Lowe in the dugout last night wearing a big captain's "C" on the front of his jersey? I'm pretty sure that had never been there before. Two questions:
1. When exactly did this happen?
2. Derek Friggin' Lowe? Are you kidding me?
The real captain of the Dodgers wears #55 on his back.
I guess that is technically correct, since Montreal is in Canada.
Anyway, how black does somebody have to be to be black? Martin, like Derek Jeter, is mixed race, with one black parent and one white parent.
No rational person would state today that barriers due to prejudice are causing the decline in black players. Encouraging diversity isn't about rectifying some perceived wrong; it's about baseball setting an ongoing good example of well-integrated society. This is a mantle baseball chose to take up 60 years ago and continues to live up to that responsibility. The reasons for the decline are under debate, but certainly stating a 'preference' for football/basketball ignores an underlying causation. Some suspect football and basketball offer more directly accessible routes to the pro leagues. Others look at the larger number of college scholarships for football and basketball. Both points are attractive to less affluent athletes, many of whom are black.
Baseball should always look to investigate what barriers to entry exist for all people and minimize the effect of those barriers. It betters the sport, by being able to draw from the largest pool of talent, and it betters society by setting a rich example of diversity and integration. This is a cause baseball took for itself, as we were reminded today. It's one of the reasons the sport is so great. Baseball simply for the sake of baseball would be a very cheap thing, indeed.
And I don't accept your point about a disparity in college scholarships compared for baseball compared to those available for basketball and football, because unlike turning pro in football and basketball, in baseball one can turn pro right out of high school. The college requirement is a "barrier" that the NFL and NBA impose that baseball does not, and STILL black youths flock to football and basketball over baseball, even the ones who don't meet the academic requirements to attend four-year colleges.
Another Pierre-related stat worth mentioning:
Randy Wolf drew more walks in last night's game than Pierre has drawn this entire season.
Never mind the joke didn't work.
The scholarship system provides athletes with a marketable education that gives a healthy ROI regardless of whether a player makes 'pro'.
And the high likelyhood, for players in both systems, is that sports will not become your career. So getting an education along the way is far more attractive.
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