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Out From Me to Rich Donnelly
2007-04-17 20:27
by Jon Weisman

Honestly, if I were a policeman and I could pull a third-base coach over for drunken waving in of a runner, I'd have probable cause to breathalyze the Dodgers' Rich Donnelly.

With two out and Nomar Garciaparra on second base in a 4-4 game, Luis Gonzalez singled to left field. Donnelly was waving in Garciaparra before Garciaparra was halfway to third base and kept waving him in even though Arizona left fielder Eric Byrnes had fielded the ball with Garciaparra still shy of third.

Arizona catcher Chris Snyder caught Byrnes' throw a little up the first-base line, but Garciaparra had still only covered two-thirds of the distance between third and home. Snyder easily put Garciaparra out.

Hot-hitting Russell Martin, the on-deck hitter, could only watch.

Comments (181)
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2007-04-17 20:35:16
1.   underdog
Seriously. I could do a better job coaching third with no major league experience. It's Nomar running from second. It's a hard hit ball. There's no need to... argh, I give up.
2007-04-17 20:36:21
2.   imperabo
Doesn't fact that it's 2 out in a tie game make the risk more worthwhile? Not defending the call.
2007-04-17 20:36:33
3.   Bluebleeder87
Wow Jon you type really really fast, Oh an I totally agree with you on Donnelly.
2007-04-17 20:37:33
4.   Andrew Shimmin
Donnelly should have to drink a gallon of milk in between innings, as punishment. Some kind of aversion therapy, anyway. Maybe he could be hooked up to a car battery, while on the field, that Grady controlled with a remote. The signal for "go home" would be the same, but the signal for "stay where you are" would, now, be Donnelly falling to the ground shaking as if he had a seizure.
2007-04-17 20:38:04
5.   Bluebleeder87
So are we gonna keep on posting here or was this a Vent thread?
2007-04-17 20:38:12
6.   Jon Weisman
2 - Banging my head against a wall is better with two out, yes.
2007-04-17 20:38:14
7.   Vishal
one would have thought he might have been tempered a little bit by last year's playoff fiasco... but apparently not.
2007-04-17 20:38:47
8.   Jon Weisman
5 - Might as well move up here.
2007-04-17 20:38:53
9.   natepurcell
has the gameday thread migrated over here?
2007-04-17 20:39:04
10.   GMac In The 909
Where have you gone Glen Hoffman?
2007-04-17 20:40:02
11.   Marty
Donnelly makes Lasorda look like a piker at third base.
2007-04-17 20:40:14
12.   Jon Weisman
From Josh Rawitch:

In regards to Lowe, he was not named team captain, though we've heard that from several people. It was a joke that a couple guys were playing in the clubhouse the other day, so they put it on his uniform. To date, only five people have been Dodger captains: Pee Wee Reese (1949-58), Duke Snider (1962), Maury Wills (1963-66), Willie Davis (1973) and Davey Lopes (1978-79).

2007-04-17 20:41:54
13.   natepurcell
how close was that last ethier out to well..being out?
2007-04-17 20:42:28
14.   imperabo
I'm just saying, if you're going to take a risk, do it with 2 out in a tie game. You probably weren't going to score him anyway with 2 out, and value of the run is greater than the opportunity cost of scoring 2 or more runs that you give up if you get thrown out. Of course, if he has no chance you don't send him though.
2007-04-17 20:42:43
15.   Jon Weisman
13 - Like a few balls this week, it was a towering 400-foot out.

Three hard-hit balls in the top of the sixth.

2007-04-17 20:42:58
16.   Samuel
30 feet higher and it would've been out?
2007-04-17 20:43:01
17.   imperabo
Three LOUD outs.
2007-04-17 20:43:30
18.   Sub4Era
B-mits been hittin it hard today.
2007-04-17 20:44:23
19.   Jon Weisman
14 - I hear what you're saying, completely agree - and it's completely irrelevant to this situation. It's not as if the pitcher was on deck. It was Martin on deck, and Byrnes could have probably raced Garciaparra home with the ball and nearly beat him.

I don't know if you were watching, but it takes a lot to make me do a new post in the middle of the game about a third-base coach. It was not close.

2007-04-17 20:44:33
20.   Strike4
Donnelly during postgame interview, "Well, at least it was only one out."
2007-04-17 20:44:52
21.   capdodger
17 I said the same thing on the other thread. Before I noticed that I was all alone.
2007-04-17 20:45:21
22.   JoeyP
I've never heard players be compared to "battleships"--but Mark Grace just made that comparison the last inning.
2007-04-17 20:45:30
23.   Jon Weisman
Garciaparra would have just about have had a better chance stealing home than trying to score on that hit.
2007-04-17 20:46:38
24.   gpellamjr
I guess this is not a tryout for Schmidt's spot for Billz.
2007-04-17 20:47:31
25.   Marty
I was going to leave a comment on the last thread that we had all moved on up, but Jon closed comments, which was a good way to do the same thing.
2007-04-17 20:49:17
26.   imperabo
19 I was watching Jon. My comments are in relation to your introduction above: "with 2 out in a 4-4 game." I got the impression that you thought those conditions made the decision worse. Perhaps you were just describing the context in a neutral fasion. If so then I misinterpreted.
2007-04-17 20:50:28
27.   D4P
Note to other teams: feel free to continue trying to steal against Martin.
2007-04-17 20:50:30
28.   JoeyP
You cannot run on Russ Martin.
Bad decision by Melvin.
2007-04-17 20:50:43
29.   gpellamjr
I hope Russ doesn't let his heroic god-like abilities go to his head.
2007-04-17 20:51:35
30.   GMac In The 909
I think Donnelly gave Byrnes the steal sign.
2007-04-17 20:52:05
31.   Jon Weisman
26 - Sorry if I came on too strong. Mostly I was setting the scene, but I think it's important to note that you shouldn't be throwing away baserunners in a tie game, no matter how many outs there are.
2007-04-17 20:52:22
32.   mikethinksblue
Wow, you could hear that foul ball in the booth. I think that was Monday screaming like a girl.
2007-04-17 20:54:17
33.   D4P
Betemit may not hit for average, but he's an RBI Machine, with 4 ribbies in a mere 28 ABs thus far, despite batting at the bottom of the order
2007-04-17 20:55:16
34.   Bumsrap
Donnelly must have thought Gonzo was still playing left for the Dbacks.
2007-04-17 20:56:23
35.   Jon Weisman
Valdez hit in the hand by a pitch - trainer out to attend to him.
2007-04-17 20:56:24
36.   gpellamjr
33 "RBI Machine"? Where have you gone, D4P?
2007-04-17 20:56:53
37.   Bluebleeder87

It was Byrnes trying to steel 2nd base.

2007-04-17 20:56:54
38.   capdodger
Hmm... That might solve our Valdez problem for a couple of weeks.
2007-04-17 20:57:47
39.   3upn3down
Do we know who will get the call up for Schmidt's spot?
2007-04-17 20:58:19
40.   Sub4Era
LA Dodgers can steal...
2007-04-17 20:58:20
41.   Jon Weisman
Valdez now has more steals as a Dodger than Oscar Robles.
2007-04-17 20:58:55
42.   imperabo
Coming into the night the Dodgers lead the NL in Steals and SB%.
2007-04-17 20:59:20
43.   JoeyP
Well, its up to Pierre to deliver.
2007-04-17 20:59:21
44.   blue22
2007-04-17 20:59:23
45.   3upn3down
I'm calling for the squeeze.
2007-04-17 20:59:23
46.   Bluebleeder87

I was wondering about that.

2007-04-17 20:59:32
47.   D4P
Steiner just called that a "Productive out" by Furcal.

I'll add that it was a good piece of hitting.

2007-04-17 20:59:33
48.   Andrew Shimmin
Gonzalez would have had a better than even shot at nailing Nomar, if he'd been in left. I don't know why Pierre's falling down made me laugh, and Donnelly's screw up made me (makes me; I'm not over it, yet) angry, but man. If the in house wardrobe guy isn't willing to, I'd be happy to fly out and staple Donnelly's arms to his torso. That can't keep happening. Something has to change.
2007-04-17 20:59:48
49.   Sub4Era
Pierre = Power Hitter
2007-04-17 20:59:48
50.   Dodgers49
24. I guess this is not a tryout for Schmidt's spot for Billz.

From Henson (LA Times):

>>> Little said right-hander Chad Billingsley has only an outside chance of replacing Schmidt because he hasn't thrown more than about 35 pitches in a game this season. <<<

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2007-04-17 20:59:51
51.   Jon Weisman
Oh, looks like Pierre will finally get his headline.
2007-04-17 20:59:52
52.   Marty
I am so glad Robles in not on this team.
2007-04-17 20:59:52
53.   imperabo
Atta boy
2007-04-17 20:59:56
54.   capdodger
Wow. He's really fast.
2007-04-17 20:59:59
55.   Bluebleeder87
was that an inside the parker or a tripe & an error?
2007-04-17 21:00:10
56.   mikethinksblue
E or inside the park? Can't tell on the radio.
2007-04-17 21:00:11
57.   GMac In The 909
At this exact moment, I heart Pierre
2007-04-17 21:00:14
58.   JoeyP
That was quite unprobable by Pierre.
2007-04-17 21:00:59
59.   Jon Weisman
Triple plus error.
2007-04-17 21:01:02
60.   imperabo
That might actually have qualified as Havok.
2007-04-17 21:01:05
61.   JoeyP
Triple and E. The guys at 3rd couldnt handle the relay throw.
2007-04-17 21:01:09
62.   Samuel
55, 56

Triple and an error.

2007-04-17 21:01:21
63.   Bob Timmermann
Should be Triple + E1
2007-04-17 21:01:30
64.   capdodger
3B E-4
2007-04-17 21:01:34
65.   Samuel

D'oh, 10 seconds too slow.

2007-04-17 21:01:35
66.   underdog
Wow, who's this Pierre fellow playing today? He looks like a keeper!

Seriously, though, that's two really solid extra base hits for him today, a very good sign after looking like a complete weakling to start the season.

2007-04-17 21:02:24
67.   D4P
If this were RBI Baseball, Pierre would have been credited with a homerun
2007-04-17 21:03:07
68.   Bob Timmermann
Well, I would have given the error to Pena, but it appears was given to Callapso instead.
2007-04-17 21:03:14
69.   capdodger
Or E-6, rather.
2007-04-17 21:03:19
70.   D4P
PS: Why is Pierre's run an "earned" run, as Gameday appears to be suggesting?
2007-04-17 21:03:19
71.   JoeyP
Grace is ripping on the Cubs
2007-04-17 21:04:20
72.   imperabo
I think Kent has a beautiful swing for a righty.
2007-04-17 21:05:07
73.   capdodger
68 Pena never had the ball. It came in low and hot, glanced off Tracy's glove, off Pena and down the line.
2007-04-17 21:05:16
74.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre would have scored on the single.
2007-04-17 21:05:41
75.   Marty
If Pierre can keep hitting hard line drives, he can play on my team.
2007-04-17 21:06:04
76.   D4P
But Gameday had already scored it as an earned run prior to the single
2007-04-17 21:06:39
77.   Jonny6
That's the wreaking havoc that I was hoping to see before the season started, and the first ball I've seen Pierre hit in the air all season (admittedly, I may have missed a few AB's).

Now if someone could just explain to me why it still seems that Pierre is playing center field with rollerskates on I might be a tad more optimistic about his long-term deal.

2007-04-17 21:06:52
78.   Marty
Gameday knows all.
2007-04-17 21:08:59
79.   Sub4Era
77 - They arnt rollerskates. They are those shoes that have the single wheel in the heel. I use them while grocery shopping, Pierre for catching fly balls.
2007-04-17 21:10:30
80.   imperabo
I don't think we have any reason to think Pierre will perform any different than he has the past few seasons. He is what he is, and he's not a liability in the 2 spot. I won't defend the roller disco in the outfield.
2007-04-17 21:10:45
81.   D4P
Does Bob have a Law (or even a Corollary) for "First Team to 10 Wins in the Season"...?
2007-04-17 21:12:25
82.   Bob Timmermann
2007-04-17 21:14:09
83.   Bluebleeder87
They are those shoes that have the single wheel in the heel. I use them while grocery shopping, Pierre for catching fly balls.

Oh man LOL :o)

2007-04-17 21:14:14
84.   imperabo
The biggest man alive!!!
2007-04-17 21:14:36
85.   overkill94
Billingsley looking a bit better the last couple outings than he did earlier. I'm fine with Hendrickson getting the starts if Schmidt's only gonna miss a few starts, but if it's more of a long-term thing I would hope they let Chad take over.
2007-04-17 21:16:12
86.   adraymond
Grace saw Broxton. Man-love time.
2007-04-17 21:16:42
87.   imperabo
Ok, I guess I like Grace as an announcer. Couldn't be any different from Vin, but he has his charm.
2007-04-17 21:16:56
88.   Samuel

Imagine what'll happen when Broxton actually gets in the game.

2007-04-17 21:17:53
89.   Bluebleeder87

Same here if i remember correctly Bills had a huge last month of the season, really good ERA.

2007-04-17 21:18:04
90.   imperabo
Is Brox the biggest man in the bigs? Do we have any 300 pounders?
2007-04-17 21:20:15
91.   Samuel

C.C. Sabathia and Broxton are listed at 290.

Sabathia was the only other big guy I could really think of off the top of my head.

2007-04-17 21:20:34
92.   JoeyP
Sabathia's probably bigger than Broxton.
2007-04-17 21:20:54
93.   das411
JW, is there a specific reason you closed comments in the last thread? Or is that just your way of herding the DT crowd past the world-class artist over here? ;)

And does anybody know if records are kept on inside-the-park HRs, like most in a season, career, etc?

2007-04-17 21:21:49
94.   Jon Weisman
93 - I started a new thread and didn't want people to be confused.
2007-04-17 21:23:42
95.   underdog
Penny must be up there in size, too? But anyway, as big as Broxton is, he looks that much bigger to Grace, apparently. Grace really does seem like he's eaten way too many Fruit Loops before the game.
2007-04-17 21:24:05
96.   Bluebleeder87

from my understanding there counted like regular dingers, I could be wrong though.

2007-04-17 21:24:11
97.   CanuckDodger
Mark Grace is a same-sex chubby chaser. Who would've thunk it?
2007-04-17 21:24:43
98.   imperabo
95 I think he just knows they didn't put him in the booth to intellectualize.
2007-04-17 21:25:53
99.   LAT
The Clips are really aging our good friend ToyCanon
2007-04-17 21:26:32
100.   Sub4Era
Broxton is big
Sabathia is fat
Grace performs "slump busters"
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2007-04-17 21:27:18
101.   neuroboy002
This has probably been answered already so i apologize, but - Luis Gonzales had TJ surgery, a procedure usually performed on pitchers. These players come back with stronger arms. What's up with Luis? FYI, I will not be satisfied with the answer, "because he is old and weak" or "he is saving his arm for October." His arm should be stronger. Right?
2007-04-17 21:27:29
102.   imperabo
The Dodger bullpen is becoming boring the best sense of the word.
2007-04-17 21:28:14
103.   underdog
Grace is really scaring me. I think I may need to go in the other room for this inning of the "Biggest Man Alive."
2007-04-17 21:28:32
104.   LAT
The Clippers: "I'm not dead yet."
2007-04-17 21:29:10
105.   MSarg29
Grace is really obsessed w/ Broxton
2007-04-17 21:30:04
106.   imperabo
Can't stop on skates. He had to take it.
2007-04-17 21:30:10
107.   natepurcell
broxtons gameday photo is really intimidating.
2007-04-17 21:30:12
108.   overkill94
101 Luis has a torn elbow ligament, but decided not to have the TJ surgery. Basically, his arm could go at any minute and in the meantime is quite weak.
2007-04-17 21:30:42
109.   natepurcell
His arm should be stronger. Right?

he also had shoulder labrum surgery.

2007-04-17 21:31:16
110.   natepurcell
Luis has a torn elbow ligament, but decided not to have the TJ surgery. Basically, his arm could go at any minute and in the meantime is quite weak.

so you're saying there is hope!??!

i kid, i kid.

2007-04-17 21:31:27
111.   D4P
Stephen Drew's Gameday photo is not quite an intimidating
2007-04-17 21:31:46
112.   underdog
Oops. Nice pick-up, bad throw. Can't win 'em all Raffy.
2007-04-17 21:31:51
113.   capdodger
Thing is, he makes that play 14 times of 15.
2007-04-17 21:32:55
114.   overkill94
110 I have the story right, don't I? I just remember going into last season people were afraid to draft him in my fantasy league because his elbow was kept together by duct tape.
2007-04-17 21:34:25
115.   natepurcell
abreu was 0-3 today but he drew another walk. this is crazy, hes driving me crazy and making me eat crow.
2007-04-17 21:35:03
116.   imperabo
So, all homerism aside, who wants to lay odds on Martin winning an MVP someday?
2007-04-17 21:35:06
117.   MSarg29
just overpowered him
2007-04-17 21:36:03
118.   natepurcell

2%...but hes good enough to be drinking whole milk.

2007-04-17 21:36:09
119.   underdog
113 He does.

Meanwhile, Mark Grace just went downstairs to try to get Broxton's autograph.

2007-04-17 21:36:20
120.   CanuckDodger
Billingsley pitching to Carlos Quentin and Conor Jackson two nights in a row makes me think of the 2003 draft, and the months and weeks leading up to it. All three guys were first rounders, Jackson going to Arizona 19th overall, Billingsley going to the Dodgers 24th overall, and Quentin going to Arizona 29th overall (Arizona had two Top 30 picks that year). Leading up to the draft, Quentin was one of two guys I wanted the Dodgers to use their first pick on, and the fact that Quentin was a Dodger fan was only part of the reason. Jackson had some Dodger fans hoping he would be picked by the Dodgers, because he is from the L.A. area. One guy on another Dodger board used to play ball against Jackson in high school. As it ended up, I'm happy we got Billingsley instead of Quentin, but Quentin wouldn't have been bad either.
2007-04-17 21:36:40
121.   Connector
The Diamondback's color commentator ought to start living up to his name (Grace). His calling of Broxton "big" makes him (Broxton) sound like a low-life WWE wrestler, and his calling of women "babes" is nauseatingly insulting.
2007-04-17 21:37:23
122.   Jon Weisman
Clipper fans can't get excited because Dallas tanked it against Golden State.
2007-04-17 21:38:56
123.   imperabo
118 I think it's higher. Maybe 10%. If he keeps throwing out runners like he does he'll get excessive credit for that. Shuting down the oppenents running game and all that. All he needs is a high average moderate power season and he'll rank high.
2007-04-17 21:38:56
124.   natepurcell

hey canuck, what do you think of SS John Tolisano and SS D.J. LeMahieu?

2007-04-17 21:40:01
125.   neuroboy002
Okay thanks for the input. I've read how much the frustration permeates here as any routine ball hit towards our starting LF and CF potentially leads to a double. Maddening to watch.
2007-04-17 21:40:07
126.   Goiter
Vin Scully just said "Alice in Chains"
2007-04-17 21:40:22
127.   DodgerBakers
Yeah, I really dislike the Diamondbacks' TV team. I watched the game last night (two Dodger games back to back that I could actually watch!) and they really got to me. They never said anything important and tried to fill time with dumb comments like "Broxton is big." Oh well, I really enjoyed being able to see a game.
2007-04-17 21:41:05
128.   underdog
Golden State just owned Dallas in the reg. season this year for some reason. I wouldn't expect that to continue in the playoffs, however. (Sorry to Clipper fans, but I've been sorta rooting for the Warriors to make it, living in the bay area and having bedraggled friends who are longtime fans and sick of their losing ways...)
2007-04-17 21:41:36
129.   lakerican

I have the story right, don't I? I just remember going into last season people were afraid to draft him in my fantasy league because his elbow was kept together by duct tape.

He,he, I just dropped Jason S and add Gonzo in my team...

2007-04-17 21:42:25
130.   Bob Timmermann
The Clippers playoff hopes rest on the shoulders of the esteemed basketball team from Portland.

Can Dan Dickau outplay Baron Davis?

2007-04-17 21:43:06
131.   MSarg29
126 - In what context?
2007-04-17 21:43:25
132.   natepurcell
meanwhile, the giants will be getting the calvary pretty soon....

lincecum tonight in AAA

6.2IP 3H 0ER 0bb 11K


2007-04-17 21:43:59
133.   D4P
the esteemed basketball team from Portland

Er, the basketball team from esteemed Portland

2007-04-17 21:44:12
134.   overkill94
125 Looks like I may be wrong as Baseball Reference said he had it. In that case, I have no idea why his arm still sucks so bad.
2007-04-17 21:44:41
135.   Dodgers49
116. So, all homerism aside, who wants to lay odds on Martin winning an MVP someday?

The Dodgers once had a catcher win the MVP three times. So why not?

2007-04-17 21:45:37
136.   DodgerBakers
135. My fantasy teams would appreciate Martin winning the MVP, so I'll vote yes
2007-04-17 21:48:14
137.   Uncle Miltie
Clipper fans can't get excited because Dallas tanked it against Golden State.
Yea, I've been watching the game. It's kind of comical to hear the Warriors announcers praising the team's defense. Dallas is playing guys who would be bench players in the D-League.

Meanwhile, Phoenix played all of their starters and the Clippers won. It's definitely frustrating to see Dallas give away a game, especially since I read that Avery Johnson is going to play all of their starters tomorrow. I'll be rooting for the Warriors to beat Dallas (even though that's unlikely to happen).

Pierre is an animal; 5 total bases today! Will that be his season high by the end of the year or will he have a 6 hit game?

2007-04-17 21:49:33
138.   Connector
Good pitch, Sammy!
2007-04-17 21:49:42
139.   Goiter
131 - He was mentioning one of the Arizona pitchers (I forget who) plays guitar at local clubs and he's pretty good and mentioned that pitcher plays Alice in Chains music occasionally...
2007-04-17 21:49:59
140.   Uncle Miltie
Can Dan Dickau outplay Baron Davis?
Dan Dickeau is an all star compared to Dallas' starting point guard tonight - Jose Juan Barea.
2007-04-17 21:52:00
141.   mikethinksblue
Steiner is excited.
2007-04-17 21:52:19
142.   Samuel
Nice double play.
2007-04-17 21:52:29
143.   imperabo
That was actually an exceptional catch.
2007-04-17 21:52:35
144.   Bob Timmermann
Sheesh, that could have been a 1 UDP.
2007-04-17 21:53:07
145.   Bluebleeder87
Saito showing he's a veteran with that presence of mind, most rooks wouldn't do what he did in that double play.
2007-04-17 21:53:11
146.   Greg S
How did we get so lucky as to fall into Saito immediately on the heels of the loss of Gagne?
2007-04-17 21:53:52
147.   NPB
Very satisfying win. We're definitely showing our true colors early on. This is a good team.
2007-04-17 21:54:05
148.   bigcpa
Wha happen? Can someone describe that DP?
2007-04-17 21:54:24
149.   MSarg29
139 - Thanks a lot. Sounds a little surreal
2007-04-17 21:54:32
150.   D4P
Steiner is excited

I can't listen to him

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2007-04-17 21:54:58
151.   NPB
I like the on-field product so much. It's just such a shame that the game-going experience at Dodger Stadium is so shoddy...the discrepancy is causing much turmoil in my mind.
2007-04-17 21:55:03
152.   CanuckDodger
124 -- Tolisano and LeMahieu seem like pretty well-rounded players, but neither of them is expected to stick at SS. They are probably first-round supplemental/second rounders. I wouldn't mind one of them, but there are probably players we could take that early that I would be more interested in. What has prompted your interest in them?
2007-04-17 21:55:21
153.   natepurcell

good scouting i guess.

2007-04-17 21:56:36
154.   Greg S
153. Sure. But I don't think he was projected to be a dominant closer was he?
2007-04-17 21:56:47
155.   underdog
That was sweet, that's all I can say. A very satisfying series.

132 I assume the Giants will be calling him up to work in the pen, eh, Nate? Now all they need is for him to also hit well and they're set!

Back to work. High fives all around. Night all.

2007-04-17 21:58:11
156.   underdog
148 Big - With the runner at second, the batter hit a sinking line shot that Saito speared just before it the ground and then lobbed over to second to get the runner there. Game over.
2007-04-17 21:58:49
157.   neuroboy002
134 So he LG did have the surgery. Maybe his throwing range was poor when he was healthy as well (?) Don't remember announcers or anaylysts mentioning this... doesn't make sense.... at least he is not feeling any pain. Our eyes are though... I'm sure he is a good guy.
2007-04-17 21:59:05
158.   natepurcell

I agree, i wasnt expecting them to stick at SS but

Tolisano- I like his toolset and his switch hitting abilities. Ive watched his batting videos at baseballwebtv and I really like his right handed batting stance and swing. reminds me of russ' swing.

Lemahieu- I love his power projectibility. He is really athletic for being so tall and he is certain to fill out. I also like his swing from what i saw. From what Ive read, he seems to have a clue up at the plate, it would be nice to add another power hitting prospect into the system.

2007-04-17 21:59:31
159.   neuroboy002
Sorry, too many spelling errors.
2007-04-17 21:59:54
160.   bigcpa
156 Cool- thanks. I'm chillin in Kauai with no KCAL.
2007-04-17 22:00:14
161.   Uncle Miltie
150- consider yourself fortunate.

If you meant it the other way, then I agree with you.

2007-04-17 22:00:45
162.   natepurcell

to add, i would think tolisano would be somewhere around our supp pick and Lemahieu around our 2nd round pick.

2007-04-17 22:02:37
163.   s choir
157 Is this a rule 11 violation? :)
2007-04-17 22:03:17
164.   D4P
I meant "I have MLB Audio, but I turned it off once the Dodgers won."
2007-04-17 22:04:39
165.   Bob Timmermann
Gonzalez had elbow surgery in 2004:

2007-04-17 22:05:16
166.   Xeifrank
160. Working or vacationing there?
vr, Xei
2007-04-17 22:05:24
167.   oswald
i'm happy for valdez that he's playing well in the majors, but, omg, he's a moron
2007-04-17 22:07:19
168.   Xeifrank
Lowe vs Rodrigo Lopez tomorrow. Gotta like our chances. vr, Xei
2007-04-17 22:09:12
169.   neuroboy002
163Making fun of my sandals, That's a paddle'n. Paddle'n the school canoe, That's a paddle'n. Defamation with rule #11, oh, you better believe that's a paddel'n!
2007-04-17 22:11:25
171.   bigcpa
166 Out here for a week vacationing in Poipu Beach. 4th visit in 6 years.
2007-04-17 22:11:28
172.   natepurcell
i just saw the juan pierre triple highlight. I still cant believe he hit that ball that far.
2007-04-17 22:14:02
173.   Greg Brock
The general rule is that your runner should hit the bag before the outfielder touches the ball. I say "general rule" because it's the kind of rule you use with mentally defective third base coaches. It's not dogmatic, but it keeps dumb people from making dumb decisions.

It seems as if Donnelly is said defective coach. Dude, foot on third before the outfielder touches the ball.

2007-04-17 22:14:05
174.   Eric L
I'm probably violating some rule or another, but was Tomko using his old delivery tonight? He certainly didn't pitch like new delivery Brett.
2007-04-17 22:19:09
175.   underdog
167 What do ya mean? Was he interviewed on a post-game show or something?

169 Give the man credit for makin' a reference to Jasper from The Simpsons.

2007-04-17 22:19:19
176.   cdbavg400
This may have been posted in Game Thread #1, but has everyone seen Alyssa's latest blog post? She doesn't seem to appreciate Gonzo's arm either.

2007-04-17 22:21:59
177.   mikethinksblue
175 I racked my brain, but couldn't place that reference to Jasper. Thanks
2007-04-17 22:28:52
178.   Jon Weisman
One more post for overnight up top ...
2007-04-17 22:34:32
179.   Jon Weisman
Comment #170 was deleted because of guidelines 3 and 4 - it appeared specifically designed to start a conflict.
2007-04-17 22:39:00
180.   bigcpa
179 I thought you deleted commenter #170 too or did I miss something?
2007-04-17 22:43:06
181.   LAT
167. i'm happy for valdez that he's playing well in the majors, but, omg, he's a moron

That's nothing. This morning Gary Shefield was on Rome promoting his new book. I can't imagine anyone would buy his book after hearing this. I kid you not, I was taken aback at how stupid this guy is. He could not even understand Rome's questions never mind formulate an answer, intelligent or otherwise. Even Rome was gassing on him. Of course Rome did it after the interview because Rome is such a wuss that he never takes anyone on on-air. (Ok, maybe Chrisie Everett but that was 10+ years ago) In fact, Rome is such a wuss in this post-Imus world that after Shef's usual rant about how players are treated badly and underpaid, Rome asked if it was true for all players including Shef, another black player (who's name escapes me right now) and Payton Manning. Not once but twice, Shef said no its wasn't the same for Manning and Rome didn't have the nerve to ask him to articulate the distinction.

2007-04-17 22:43:55
182.   LAT
178. UGH!!!

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