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Brazoban Disabled, Hull Recalled
2007-06-01 13:53
by Jon Weisman

Yhency Brazoban has gone back to the disabled list, and Eric Hull is the surprise callup to replace him, reports Tony Jackson of the Daily News.

Hull has a 3.67 ERA in 27 1/3 innings with AAA Las Vegas this year, striking out 27 and allowing only one home run but allowing 24 hits and 15 walks.

Hull had similar numbers in 73 innings with the 51s last season (78 strikeouts, 97 baserunners, six homers allowed.)

* * *

Update: Steve Yeager talked to The Associated Press about the second life-threatening accident in his life.

Now a coach for the Single-A Inland Empire 66ers of the California League, Yeager was on a freeway headed home following a night game May 4 when another vehicle hit the center divider, went airborne and came down on top of his car.

"Bam. That's it. It happened so fast," Yeager said. "I saw the car coming, tried to swerve to my right. It was too late. I swerved enough so it didn't land directly on top of me, just partially on top on the driver's side.

"It sent me spinning -- I ended up on the side of the road."

Yeager said when his car finally came to rest, he saw blood -- lots of blood -- coming from his left arm. And he felt the kind of pain that can't be measured.

"How do you describe pain? I started moving my fingers to make sure everything was still attached, and figured, 'We'll go from there,"' he said.

* * *

Today's 4:05 p.m. game:


Retro Gameday

Comments (430)
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2007-06-01 14:01:44
1.   ToyCannon
I hope Tsao comes back soon.
2007-06-01 14:01:50
2.   kinbote
there once was a pitcher named hull
whose stuff was admittedly dull
but his stats were legit
or at least adequate
and now he's an option to mull
2007-06-01 14:01:50
3.   Eric Enders
Hmm. Can't say I agree with that move, but at least it's different. I take it Hull's using Wilson Valdez's former spot on the 40-man roster? Or did Abreu already use that?

Reposting this since I got LATed in the last thread:

I no longer live in NY, but I think there's a lot of truth to 109 and 110. Even the serious baseball fans out there really don't know the Dodger players (or other west coast players). It's like the East Coast is on a two-year time delay. It took a couple of years before they knew who LoDuca was, and realized he was good. Maybe it's the same with Martin.

That would also explain why Nomar is one of the only Dodgers doing well in the voting, even though he, well, stinks.

One would think the East Coast effect would be mitigated a little by the Japanese voting. From what I understand, a not-insignificant portion of the online ballots come from Japan. The Dodgers not only opened the door for the influx of Japanese players, but have had at least one Japanese star on the team almost continuously since 1995 -- and then there's the proximity factor. All that would ostensibly work in the D's favor. But it doesn't appear to be happening.

2007-06-01 14:02:37
4.   ToyCannon
I think this means that La Roche is headed for AAA for Kuo tomorrow since they didn't use Yhancy's DL move to bring him up. Or they are just going to let Penny pitch.
2007-06-01 14:03:08
5.   ToyCannon
I thought Hull was already on the 40 man?
2007-06-01 14:04:24
6.   capdodger
3 I managed to convince a few people sitting near me last night to Vote Martin. His HR helped somewhat as did the fact that the other leading candidates are in the NL East.
2007-06-01 14:06:17
7.   Eric Enders
5 Well, that answers that, then.
2007-06-01 14:08:41
8.   Eric Enders
Any chance Hendrickson goes on the DL tomorrow with one of those Marlon Anderson/Jason Repko we-need-a-way-to-get-this-guy-off-the-roster injuries? The trainer did visit him on the mound yesterday.
2007-06-01 14:08:59
9.   Daniel Zappala
3 I get cut off at the end of a lot of threads too. So why didn't my username get used to represent this phenomenon? Getting Zapped makes a lot more sense than getting LATed.

Feeling under-appreciated ...

2007-06-01 14:09:38
10.   Eric Enders
9 You're just bitter because it was Eric Hull and not Mitch Jones.
2007-06-01 14:12:38
11.   ToyCannon
Now there is our 3b.
2007-06-01 14:12:53
12.   underdog
8 Maybe he fell Paul Bunyan style and landed on his keys after the game. Whatever it takes.

Hull? Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that one. He's only up for a little while and has been decent I guess so, whatever. Obviously this isn't the last move we'll get in the next few days. I guess Houlton wasn't someone they'd want to use for short appearances then?

2007-06-01 14:14:38
13.   Daniel Zappala
10 Oh absolutely it should have been Mitch Jones. How many players does he have to see promoted ahead of him? Why do the Dodgers keep jerking him around, huh?
2007-06-01 14:15:31
14.   underdog
Re: the all-star voting topic in last thread, there are probably multiple reasons why LA players don't get the votes at the level NY players do. More people there care enough to vote; there are more NY "stars"; they're less prone to vote for players from other teams; it's the most populous region in the country (though LA is second); the Dodgers players aren't seen as much on the East Coast (previously mentioned); and so on. I'll buy many of those reasons, but mostly I think LA fans just care less about the all-star game than some other places do.
2007-06-01 14:15:50
15.   underdog
Can Mitch Jones pitch short relief?
2007-06-01 14:15:50
16.   Jon Weisman
9 - There's only one kind of getting Zapped.

2007-06-01 14:16:05
17.   jasonungar07
Wasn't Repko's serious for real?

I'd like to see Nomar on that 15 day phantom DL too.

2007-06-01 14:17:04
18.   underdog
16 Jon (willie) aames to please. Yikes, I was in the 7th grade when that movie came out and was #1 at the box office for a couple of weeks. what a sad period that was.
2007-06-01 14:18:04
19.   Daniel Zappala
16 Careful, there, Jon. That's not the association I'm going for.
2007-06-01 14:18:29
20.   Eric Enders
17 I think Repko's injury this year was a minor injury, but then he tried to play with it and hurt it a lot worse. So it became a for-real injury.

He's had one or maybe two phantom injuries over the past few years, though.

2007-06-01 14:25:20
21.   Terry A
Is there absolutely no chance that Billingsley starts tomorrow? Tony Jackson points out he wasn't used in yesterday's game; Little may have been anticipating getting multiple innings out of Bills on Saturday, but could those innings come as a starter? Perhaps no move will be made tomorrow after all?
2007-06-01 14:25:51
22.   Greg Brock
Zapped, Porky's, and The Toy came out in 1982. So did a little movie about a guy named KHAAAAAAAAN!

Great year...Or greatest year?

2007-06-01 14:29:01
23.   bigcpa
At Sunday's game I asked my usher for AS ballots and was twice denied. 2 innings later she brought me some. I was probably one of 6-8 people out of 50,000 that requested ballots. Those things should be shoved into people's hands like Glitter Gulch flyers on the strip.
2007-06-01 14:29:44
24.   kinbote
the finnish title of "Zapped" is "Mekko hampaissa - vipinää virsuissa!"

i can't seem to find a finnish-to-english translator on-line.

2007-06-01 14:32:51
25.   El Lay Dave
From the last thread, regarding power outage: my previous numbers were comparing this season so far to the entire season last year. Here's a longer trend, comparing the first two months of each season:

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007
R/PA 0.135 0.122 0.113 0.119 0.118 0.117 0.124 0.115
HR/PA 0.033 0.030 0.024 0.026 0.028 0.026 0.028 0.023
SLG% 0.447 0.424 0.400 0.414 0.419 0.413 0.423 0.402

(I also changed the ratios to be per Plate Appearance.)

JPG format graph here:

Simplistic conclusion: power and scoring in the first two months are about the same as 2002 and at the lowest point in the 2000s.

Thank the gods for

2007-06-01 14:33:33
26.   chazmac138

The Toy is clearly the best movie of the three named. From the piranha lake scene to the racist wife and of course Jackie Gleason. CLassic. Your Wrath of Kahn reference is comedy too.

2007-06-01 14:34:25
27.   regfairfield
21 Unless Grady was flat out lying about Kuo being the guy, no.

Assuming the Dodgers wanted another middle reliever to replace Brazoban, Hull made the most sense out of anyone on the 40 man.

2007-06-01 14:43:04
28.   jasonungar07
...Little refused to select a fifth starter for todays game in Pittsburgh but left-hander Hong-Chih Kuo is the odds-on favorite. He did say, however, that Chad Billingsley will not be the one anointed, saying he is too important out of the bullpen.

2007-06-01 14:43:46
29.   Eric Enders
"Hull made the most sense out of anyone on the 40 man."

Meloan probably would've made the most sense out of anyone in the organization, though. He's not on the 40-man but we currently have 2 spots to play around with (the 40 spots are full but Repko and Anderson could be moved from the 15 to 60-day DL).

The fact that they picked Hull over Meloan leads me to believe that this is a very short-term callup that will end whenever Tsao gets better.

2007-06-01 14:45:45
30.   El Lay Dave
27 By Sunday, Hendrickson can fill that role.
2007-06-01 14:46:11
31.   underdog
29 I think that's very likely the case, yeah. Hull won't be around very long. I actually think it's nice he gets a shot, even if short-lived. At the worst, we'll see Meloan for sure when rosters expand Sep. 1.
2007-06-01 14:46:20
32.   philmc78
I jumped on the Vote Martin bandwagon today and repeated the process 75 times. He definitely deserves to be in the all-star game, so lets rock the vote!

(Yes, I was really bored at work today.)

2007-06-01 14:46:31
33.   GoBears
One would think the East Coast effect would be mitigated a little by the Japanese voting. From what I understand, a not-insignificant portion of the online ballots come from Japan. The Dodgers not only opened the door for the influx of Japanese players, but have had at least one Japanese star on the team almost continuously since 1995 -- and then there's the proximity factor. All that would ostensibly work in the D's favor. But it doesn't appear to be happening.

From what I understand about Japanese viewing habits of MLB, they're pretty targeted. First, it was Nomo and only Nomo. Then Ichiro. Then Hideki Matsui. And now Matsuzaka. Every Dodger, then Mariner, then Yankee, now Yankee game and Daisuke start televised. I wonder if (and doubt that) Saito gets the same following, especially since you can't predict when he'll appear. Is Jeff in Tokyo still out there? Any MLB on the terebi other than Yanks, Sox, and maybe Mariners these days?

2007-06-01 14:46:59
34.   ToyCannon
Give the kid his cup of coffee. Meloan will have plenty of java this might be it for Hull.
2007-06-01 14:47:02
35.   Eric Enders
"Those things should be shoved into people's hands like Glitter Gulch flyers on the strip."

At other ballparks, they are. The usher will come by once a game and give every row a stack equivalent to 2 or 3 ballots for each person in the row. Do they not do that at Dodger Stadium?

2007-06-01 14:48:27
36.   ToyCannon
Ricardo Montebalm the greatest actor to ever fill a Star Trek screen.
2007-06-01 14:49:08
37.   ToyCannon
No, they leave us alone and let us watch the game while they chase bouncing beach balls.
2007-06-01 14:49:38
38.   Jon Weisman
Ricardo Montebalm should have married Suzy Chapstick.
2007-06-01 14:51:59
39.   Eric Enders
25 Thanks for the graph. So basically, it looks like offense is down, but not by a huge amount.
2007-06-01 14:52:36
40.   ToyCannon
Last shoutout for DT people to join BHSPORTSGUY and myself at DS at about 03:00 tomorrow to watch future Dodger 3b Matt Dominguez and future Brewer catcher Mike Moustakas finish the greatest combination HS career in the history of California. I think we will be near the Dodger dugout. The actual game starts at 04:00. Cost is 10.00, the experience will be priceless.
2007-06-01 14:55:44
41.   Greg Brock
36 Christopher Lloyd as a Klingon is pretty awesome, but I'm inclined to agree.
2007-06-01 14:59:25
42.   Marty
I'm considering changing my screen name to Ricardo Montebalm.
2007-06-01 15:00:06
43.   GoBears
I like the use of the word "disabled" as a transitive verb. Sounds like Dodger management went all Gilooly on Brazoban.
2007-06-01 15:01:12
44.   GoBears
42. Whereas Marty Montebalm would make you sound like a Jewish undertaker.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

2007-06-01 15:01:50
45.   Marty
Watching Tom Brokaw pronounce Jeff Gilooly's name was great television.
2007-06-01 15:04:07
46.   ToyCannon
Whenever I see Christopher Lloyd on the screen my subconsious makes me laugh.

Hey last night I dreamed I was an English teacher in high school at ECR and I had 3 students and all I talked about was the Chatworth game coming up on Saturday since I'm the least prepared person to teach English living in Woodland Hills. I love my subconcious. I assume my wife's open house for her 4th grade was the reason for such bizarreness.

2007-06-01 15:04:23
47.   Marty
Davey Lopes does not like what he sees.

2007-06-01 15:06:32
48.   Humma Kavula
47 That article has been FireJoeMorganed, too.
2007-06-01 15:09:39
49.   Eric Enders
Ricardo Montebalm -- the official chapstick of the RCMP.

Online voting has begun for the Triple A All-Star Game. Go cast your vote for Kemp and Loney here:
(The article on is pimping Larry Bigbie for the game, even though he doesn't, you know, play minor league baseball.)

The 51s, by the way, face the best pitcher in in minor league baseball tonight. (Yovani Gallardo) Game starts at 5 Pacific.

2007-06-01 15:11:18
50.   ToyCannon
Neither do I, Steve looks so old in the bottom picture.
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2007-06-01 15:13:08
51.   ToyCannon
There are a lot bad baserunners in baseball. I think Davey saw to much of Piazza last year who was one of the worse baserunners I've ever seen. He was made to be an A.
2007-06-01 15:14:08
52.   Eric Enders
49 Actually, upon further examination, neither Loney nor Kemp even made the ballot for the Triple A All-Star Game.

What kind of crazy, screwed up world do we live in?

2007-06-01 15:16:26
53.   trainwreck
Isn't Moustakas a third baseman?
2007-06-01 15:16:48
54.   natepurcell
Last shoutout for DT people to join BHSPORTSGUY and myself at DS at about 03:00 tomorrow to watch future Dodger 3b Matt Dominguez

you think dominguez will drop to the dodgers?

2007-06-01 15:17:25
55.   ToyCannon
Like everyone else the people who made the ballots assumed they would not be in AAA.

Carlos Zambrano and Barret go at it.

2007-06-01 15:17:48
56.   ToyCannon
No, just wishcasting.
2007-06-01 15:18:11
57.   El Lay Dave
52 Apparently, the ballot makers assumed they couldn't possibly be in AAA long enough this season.

In honor of Daniel Zappala, I shall vote for Mitch Jones (51 RBI - I know, I know).

2007-06-01 15:19:19
58.   ToyCannon
He's actually a SS but BA seems to think he might get drafted and moved to catcher. I think that is unlikely and that he moves to 3b but they are smart people and talk to the scouts.
2007-06-01 15:19:31
59.   El Lay Dave
Or what 55 said.
2007-06-01 15:25:22
60.   El Lay Dave
Jason Schmidt could return to the rotation as soon as Tuesday in San Diego. The Dodgers will wait until he throws on the side Saturday to determine whether he'll need another rehabilitation start. -- Diamond Leung's blog.

I hope he looks fantastic.

2007-06-01 15:28:46
61.   ToyCannon
3 NL West teams are in the top 11 of the BP Power Ranking
5th Padres
6th Dodgers
11th Arizona

Looks like our winning is legit if BP says it is:)

2007-06-01 15:33:21
62.   Daniel Zappala
57 Awesome.
2007-06-01 15:35:27
63.   ToyCannon
Beltran and Wright may miss weekend series against Diamondbacks. Wish that would happen for us.
2007-06-01 15:35:36
64.   the OZ
61 I suspect that Arizona will make a serious run this summer. If they catch a little bit of luck with the development of their young players, I think they have more than enough talent to beat the Dodgers for the division title. They've assembled some smart leadership in the front office and have been making good decisions since the new management went into place. I wouldn't be surprised if they become the leading franchise in the division over the next 5 years.
2007-06-01 15:37:29
65.   Jon Weisman

2007-06-01 15:37:36
66.   ToyCannon
The NL West is bringing out the big guns against the defenseless East with Peavy, Webb, and our own Wolfman leading the barrage.
2007-06-01 15:38:57
67.   ToyCannon
Wow, the NL central really is the pits.
2007-06-01 15:39:30
68.   El Lay Dave
62 Unfortunately I cannot see the "Validation Key:" through the firewall here, so I don't even know if he's on the ballot! That will have to wait until I am at home.
2007-06-01 15:43:26
69.   Jon Weisman
Last year's World Series champ was 22nd in ESPNMLBRPI last year.
2007-06-01 15:44:25
70.   Eric Enders
68 Actually, it turns out they have separate ballots for each league, which I didn't notice because they have it in really tiny print. Messrs. Kemp and Loney are present after all, although Daniel's hero is not.
2007-06-01 15:50:33
71.   scooplew
I am a week late on this, but the starting pitching for last Friday's Dodgers-Cubs game made me think of the lyrics of the wonderful song in the great 1953 MGM film "Lili," starring the lovely Leslie Caron:
"A song of love is a sad song,
Hi Lilly, Hi Lilly, Hi Lowe..."
...As in Ted Lilly and Derek Lowe.
It is a tremendous family movie.
2007-06-01 15:51:00
72.   underdog
70 Slogging through the International League ballot was enough to turn me off the whole thing and I gave up. Though the stats compare option helps there a little...
2007-06-01 15:51:14
73.   regfairfield
In terms of third order wins:

Padres 4th
Dodgers 9th
Diamondbacks T 13th

2007-06-01 15:54:07
74.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Where at?

2007-06-01 16:03:13
75.   Bluebleeder87

wow, things are getting ugly in the windy city

2007-06-01 16:04:12
76.   Blaine
Just watched the Beyond the Glory on FSN for the '88 series game 1. Still sends chills down my spine.

Oh, and Zapped is also sentimental for me. First on screen shot of boobies!

2007-06-01 16:07:39
77.   Bluebleeder87
right on cue Furcal hits the 2nd pitch he saw
2007-06-01 16:09:40
78.   Humma Kavula
and Pierre grounds to the pitcher.
2007-06-01 16:12:06
79.   MMSMikey
has kent done a thing on this road trip? besides that rbi single in the 10-0 game?
2007-06-01 16:12:18
80.   Humma Kavula
Russell Martin is obviously tired.... of being the only guy on this team that can hit.
2007-06-01 16:12:38
81.   gpellamjr
78 Save it for your website, hater.
2007-06-01 16:13:19
82.   D4P
Martin's OPS in June is a cool 3.000
2007-06-01 16:13:32
83.   Who Is Karim Garcia
...forget 9 Scott Hattebergs I want 9 Martins.
2007-06-01 16:14:11
84.   Icaros
Can Martin play CF?
2007-06-01 16:15:34
85.   Humma Kavula
81 Can't stop, won't stop...

Since Tuesday, Juan has done this: triple, double, double, double, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out.

2007-06-01 16:16:24
86.   Borchard504
Hendy isn't pitching again tonight is he? What could Colletti be thinking about him today? Wolf needs to get off to a better start tonight...
2007-06-01 16:17:26
87.   Icaros
Yeah, The Player blew his extra-base wad for the season in that one game.
2007-06-01 16:17:57
88.   Bluebleeder87
we got lucky with that ground rule double by Sanchez
2007-06-01 16:17:59
89.   El Lay Dave
Not to beat the dead horse into glue, but Joe Torre now saying ARod shouldn't have yelled. "It was probably inappropriate to do it at the time he did it, but you can't change it, unfortunately."

"at the time he did it" is an interesting qualifier.

Joe Torre made his MLB debut while I was a fetus, so his opinion on this matters a lot more than mine.

2007-06-01 16:19:18
90.   Icaros
I hate early innings Wolf.
2007-06-01 16:19:52
91.   MMSMikey
get a road map juan
2007-06-01 16:19:58
92.   overkill94
Wolfie needs to make some better 0-2 pitches
2007-06-01 16:21:06
93.   gpellamjr
89 Wisdom of the ancients, eh?
2007-06-01 16:21:21
94.   El Lay Dave
88 ...but it just doesn't matter in the end.
2007-06-01 16:21:29
95.   JoeyP
That was some terrible base running by the pirates.
2007-06-01 16:21:30
96.   Bluebleeder87
Wolf will settle down i just hope the damage isn't that bad.
2007-06-01 16:21:48
97.   StolenMonkey86
Wow, were they that worried about Pierre's arm, or does Sanchez have the speed of Brad Penny on the basepaths?
2007-06-01 16:22:37
98.   D4P
That was some terrible base running by the pirates

I wondered about that. From watching Gameday, it seemed to me that the Pirates probably should have scored two runs instead of one.

2007-06-01 16:23:18
99.   D4P
I chalk it up to more Magic.
2007-06-01 16:23:32
100.   Kevin Lewis
Why would he give Bay a pitch like that with an 0-2 count?
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2007-06-01 16:23:43
101.   MMSMikey
nice work randy.
2007-06-01 16:23:46
102.   gpellamjr
99 I prefer to call it chemistry and character.
2007-06-01 16:24:11
103.   El Lay Dave
100 I doubt he intentionally threw it there.
2007-06-01 16:25:22
104.   JoeyP
Sanchez apparently thought the ball was going to be caught, so he was tagging up on the play. He could have still made it home rather easily.

The 3rd base coach must have thought Bradley was still in CF for the Dodgers.

2007-06-01 16:25:24
105.   D4P
I prefer to call it chemistry and character

6.5 of one, half baker's dozen of the other

2007-06-01 16:28:23
106.   D4P
I'm calling it now: the Pirates' failure to score more runs in the first inning will appear to have cost them the game by the time it's over.
2007-06-01 16:29:44
107.   regfairfield
106 Then Jim Tracy will say "we couldn't get the key hit".
2007-06-01 16:31:11
108.   gpellamjr
Oh, Rick Monday. I love it when he's telling a long boring story and then, remembering there's a ball game, says: "The first pitch is a ball outside, and the pitcher comes right back with a strike, one-and-one." The image (intended?) is of a pitcher throwing a pitch, then, keeping his foot on the rubber, firing another pitch as soon as he gets the ball back from the catcher.
2007-06-01 16:31:55
109.   El Lay Dave
107 But with a whole lot more hooking up of words and phrases and clauses.
2007-06-01 16:32:27
110.   StolenMonkey86
2007-06-01 16:32:28
111.   D4P
And question marks.
2007-06-01 16:32:51
112.   El Lay Dave
2007-06-01 16:33:13
113.   jasonungar07
A what Jim Tracy would say post followed directly by what Rick Monday just said post is just genius.
2007-06-01 16:34:13
114.   Icaros
Has it been pointed out yet today how horrific these red Pirates jerseys are?
2007-06-01 16:34:17
115.   El Lay Dave
The more hits Abreu gets tonight, the more likely LaRoche goes down for Kuo?
2007-06-01 16:35:38
116.   El Lay Dave
Tony Jackson's blog: "My best guess about what is going to happen is this: Andy LaRoche will go back to Las Vegas to make room for Kuo, giving the Dodgers a 12-man pitching staff and giving the seven or so members of the LaRoche family who traveled to Pittsburgh from Kansas and Minnesota to watch LaRoche and his brother Adam square off in a regular season major-league game for the first time in their lives a serious case of buyer's remorse. "
2007-06-01 16:35:40
117.   goofus
I'm not just reacting to Saenz's last at bat, it has been in my mind all season that he is finished. Sure he has had a few hits this year but he has looked terrible in a lot of them. There comes a time in every player's life to hang them up and for him that time is now. There are quite a few players in the organization who would be more productive in that spot than he now is. I like Olmedo but there is no room for that on 25 man rosters. I wonder if he would be any good as a hitting coach?
2007-06-01 16:35:41
118.   regfairfield
108 Rick Monday had an incredibly infuriating moment a couple days ago. With Gonzalez on second Russell Martin "RIPS A GROUNDBALL TO THE RIGHT SIDE! And Russell Martin does his job. You just love to see hitting like that (etc. etc.). Lopez's only play is to first, and Martin advances the runner."

While we've gone over Steiner getting excited over warning track fly balls, I think Monday going crazy for a productive out is much worse.

2007-06-01 16:37:34
119.   StolenMonkey86
116 - Does this potentially bring on the same curse as sending Kemp back down when his family came up to see him?
2007-06-01 16:37:39
120.   Gen3Blue
Allright--it looks like the D's are trying to win with Wolf pitching. Tell you the truth, I would watch anyway, because it is about 7:30 or 8:00 here on the east coast.
Go D's.
2007-06-01 16:37:49
121.   Icaros

So you think Martinez Part 2 is more productive than Saenz?

2007-06-01 16:38:08
122.   underdog
117 I've been quietly thinking that so far this season, too, that Saenz at least looks more tired as a hitter this season. Not ready to give up on him just yet but I do think his time is almost up. And yeah, I think he'd make a swell hitting coach (for what that's worth).

Abreu looked like he might have been just barely safe anyway, had Paulino not lost the ball there but could have been called out - was really close. He did a nice job of tucking his hand in there around the catcher.

2007-06-01 16:39:28
123.   overkill94
Who knew Peavy was fallable? 4 hits and 2 runs so far in 1+ IP.
2007-06-01 16:40:31
124.   StolenMonkey86
123 - Yeah, his only loss so far this season was against the Nats.
2007-06-01 16:40:32
125.   underdog
Gosh, yeah, those Pirates red jerseys are horrible. Did I miss some reasoning for trying those out? Why are they going all Astros on us?


That was a weird way to get an out at 2nd, but we'll take it.

2007-06-01 16:41:26
126.   StolenMonkey86
125 - how do they compare to the red d-backs jerseys?
2007-06-01 16:41:50
127.   dzzrtRatt
Was that bunt play a brilliant play or a blown opportunity to get a DP?
2007-06-01 16:41:57
128.   underdog
C'mon Wolfman, this is the second inning now, not the first.
2007-06-01 16:42:27
129.   StolenMonkey86
Wolf to Martin to Furcal? Did Randy think he had a guy on 3rd?
2007-06-01 16:43:01
130.   Jacob L
There's no better way to judge the State of the Tomato than a series at PNC Park. I, for one, am not ready to concede that he's finished.
2007-06-01 16:43:08
131.   Kevin Lewis
Zach Duke grounds into a force out, pitcher Randy Wolf to catcher Russell Martin to shortstop Rafael Furcal. Ronny Paulino out at 2nd. Zach Duke to 1st.

How is that possible?

2007-06-01 16:43:45
132.   underdog
126 Similar in concept (red shirt with dark short sleeves) but the yellow around the letters, numbers and shoulder/sleeve cut make them even more hideous.
2007-06-01 16:44:49
133.   gpellamjr
117 I think such an unequivocal declaration of the end of a guy's return is unwarranted right now. I've felt he doesn't look right at times, but he's OPSing .790 and has two homeruns. I'd say not bad for a pinch hitter.
2007-06-01 16:44:49
134.   underdog
Because Wolf dropped the pop up. Paulino was in no man's land because he thought the popped up pbunt was going to be caught. Instead Wolf dropped it and then Russell threw to second.
2007-06-01 16:45:19
135.   El Lay Dave
131 Haven't seen it, but perhaps a hard bunt bounced off Wolf and right to Martin?
2007-06-01 16:45:45
136.   El Lay Dave
Ignore 135 then!
2007-06-01 16:45:54
137.   goofus
117 Little production from either of them. But Saenz will get maybe 50 ABs over the course of the season; it looks now like he might get 12-15 hits. What would Looney or Kemp produce in the same ABs? They would learn from it and be better next year, and provide better defense even now. I don't hate Saenz, nor am I pushing for any particular player to replace him; I'm just saying Saenz is finished.
2007-06-01 16:46:44
138.   Jacob L
Jiminy Christmas, I just realized that the whole Pirates lineup, save for Bay, Nady, and Bautista, is OPSing under 700.

What strapping young ballplayers are being buried by Jim Tracy this year?

2007-06-01 16:47:25
139.   JoeyP
Wolf dropped the bunt attempt, but Paulino had to stay at 1st bc he thought the ball was going to be caught. When it dropped, Martin picked it up and threw it to 2nd for an easy force out.
2007-06-01 16:47:43
140.   Humma Kavula
Yay Juan!
2007-06-01 16:48:14
141.   Marty
I see Sanchez is back at third. I guess Tracy has given up trying to make a second baseman out of him.
2007-06-01 16:49:11
142.   Icaros
My problem with the Pirates red jersey is that their colors are black and gold.

I remember them busting out those red-billed caps a couple years ago, but never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that growing into this monstrosity.

2007-06-01 16:49:20
143.   underdog
I guess Mike Edwards was no longer available.


man these Pirates announcers are... odd. Boring and odd. A great combination. Now they're talking about the Beatles for some reason.

2007-06-01 16:49:53
144.   overkill94
Well done Juan, well done
2007-06-01 16:49:55
145.   underdog
A great day for Paulino so far. One passed ball, one dropped throw in a play at the plate, thrown out at second on a popped bunt (that wasn't his fault though).
2007-06-01 16:49:55
146.   Humma Kavula
This is what Juan does well. Good job.
2007-06-01 16:50:01
147.   El Lay Dave
wreaking havoc.
2007-06-01 16:50:14
148.   regfairfield
137 If he gets 12-15 hits, that would be hitting .240-.300. I don't see how he's done, especially since his .790 OPS is better than a large chunk of our starters.
2007-06-01 16:51:28
149.   Jacob L
143 I think its another anniversary of Sgt. Pepper's coming out. I heard a long story (is there any other kind?) about it on NPR today.
2007-06-01 16:51:41
150.   MMSMikey
batista wasnt playing in
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2007-06-01 16:51:52
151.   Humma Kavula
149 It was forty years ago today...
2007-06-01 16:52:08
152.   Gagne55
143 14 straight losing seasons will do that to you.
2007-06-01 16:52:19
153.   underdog
Smart baserunning from Pierre there. Not just the stolen base but he smartly stayed put at third to see if that ball was gonna be caught, even though it looked like it was getting through for a hit.
2007-06-01 16:52:50
154.   MMSMikey
lets go kent.
2007-06-01 16:54:07
155.   underdog
149 Yeah, that must be it, I just missed the segue. Or maybe there wasn't a segue. The Beatles are certainly more interesting than the Pirates.
2007-06-01 16:54:21
156.   StolenMonkey86
well shucks
2007-06-01 16:55:33
157.   Jacob L
155 I believe the Beatles had a bunch of their records burned when John suggested that they were "bigger than the Pirates . . ."
2007-06-01 16:55:54
158.   Jon Weisman
How can you call a guy with a 109 OPS+ finished, especially on this team?
2007-06-01 16:57:53
159.   ROC
143 I started reaching for the mute button when their annoucers starting singing Lennon "song" No.9 (no, really they did). By the bottom of the inning they claimed Rick Donnely is one of the best 3rd base coaches in baseball.

I have never thought I'd pine for Steve Lyons, but I am right now.

2007-06-01 16:59:27
160.   Jacob L
What do they call that again when the ball goes over the fence for an automatic run?
2007-06-01 17:00:13
161.   Kingmans Performance

Actually in 1997 for the 30th anniversary of Sgt. Pepper, Capitol Records had announced a special 3 disc edition of the album remastered, with a completely alternate version of Pepper, and rare demos of all of the songs.

Sadly they canceled the project.

2007-06-01 17:00:50
162.   underdog
Man, that makes me feel sick, Bay.
2007-06-01 17:00:51
163.   JoeyP
Bay's like the only guy in the Pirate lineup that is any good.
Wolf should know better than to let him beat him.
2007-06-01 17:00:56
164.   Gagne55
160 home run, long ball, dingger, bomb, tatter, four bagger, or jack
2007-06-01 17:01:02
165.   overkill94
the beginning of the Nats' order is dominating Peavy like they did Hendrickson. I think that's the last time those two will ever be likened.
2007-06-01 17:01:56
166.   El Lay Dave
138 What strapping young ballplayers are being buried by Jim Tracy this year?
Judging solely from the stat sheet, they don't have any, except maybe Doumit. That makes this the perfect team for Tracy.
2007-06-01 17:03:27
167.   MMSMikey
i dont think grady invisioned olmedo leading off 2 innings.
2007-06-01 17:03:27
168.   underdog
Yes, Wolf should know better than to have Jason Bay hit a home run off him! Don't know why he thought that was a good idea. ;-)
2007-06-01 17:04:10
169.   El Lay Dave
163 speaking of strapping young ballplayers. That Bay, he's pretty good, eh?
2007-06-01 17:04:49
170.   Bluebleeder87
the Pirates mascot has stuck by the team all those loosing seasons, if it's the same person under the costume you gotta had it to the guy.
2007-06-01 17:05:06
171.   El Lay Dave
Kent is 1 for his last 15.
2007-06-01 17:05:19
172.   Humma Kavula
Did Monday really just say, "The Dodgers need baserunners. They also need base scorers?"
2007-06-01 17:06:13
173.   underdog
Saenz just said, "You're not gonna throw me any fast balls, I'm just gonna sit here and make you throw strikes." Duke didn't.

Gonzo ripped that one, nearly went out.

2007-06-01 17:06:15
174.   Greg Brock
I was wondering how long it would take Andrew McCutchen to make it to the Pirates.

Then I realized he's hitting .214 and slugging .369 in AA. Yikes.

2007-06-01 17:06:23
175.   El Lay Dave
171 16 - he made out in his last PA of the 9-8 game with the Cubs.
2007-06-01 17:06:23
176.   Icaros
Good luck in Vegas, Andy.
2007-06-01 17:06:24
177.   MMSMikey
looks like andy will be sent down :(
2007-06-01 17:06:33
178.   Gagne55
168 To kill off any potential rally before it had a chance to occur.
2007-06-01 17:06:49
179.   overkill94
Dang, I should have activated Abreu in my fantasy league for this week, looks like he'll be staying up for sure.
2007-06-01 17:06:55
180.   Jacob L
The rabbits are loose.
2007-06-01 17:07:00
181.   underdog
Abreu really has looked good at the plate the last few games. Nice RBI there.
2007-06-01 17:07:56
182.   El Lay Dave
Abreu tightening his grip on the roster spot.
2007-06-01 17:08:25
183.   Gen3Blue
Brady's reaction. Stop! dont pile it on! and the team feels it.
2007-06-01 17:08:27
184.   gpellamjr
This has turned into a real feel good story, with Saenz getting on base at least once in his farewell game.
2007-06-01 17:08:27
185.   Gagne55
Gonzo ripped that one, nearly went out.

He also scorched, ripped, laced, crushed, and mashed it.

2007-06-01 17:08:30
186.   Jacob L
I'm fine with Andy going down. It's better than him getting the 1 in 3 days "shot" he's getting now.
2007-06-01 17:08:34
187.   underdog
So I'm just curious - why are people rooting for LaRoche over Abreu, if they are? I'm rooting for them both, but I like Abreu. LaRoche will get his chance - it just may not be this time.
2007-06-01 17:08:36
188.   JoeyP
You league must have alot of teams if Abreu is needed for a position.
2007-06-01 17:09:09
189.   blutomania
Why the rash of posts on La Roche being sent down? What info am I missing.
2007-06-01 17:09:18
190.   MMSMikey
c'mon raffy a 2 out hit would be nice.
2007-06-01 17:09:19
191.   overkill94
The Mets are trotting out a pretty pathetic line-up today with so many guys injured:

Easley (!)

2007-06-01 17:09:35
192.   underdog
184 Heh.
2007-06-01 17:10:35
193.   JoeyP
I think most want LaRoche on the team ahead of Abreu, bc Abreu really isnt that good. He's a free swinging slap hitter with little patience, and those guys can get hot a for a couple weeks but over the long haul they wont be productive.

Abreu's basically May/June's version of Wilson Valdez apparently. However, at the expense of Laroche everyday at 3b, which sucks.

2007-06-01 17:10:36
194.   El Lay Dave
187 Bigger ceiling for LaRoche, rather see Abreu as a middle IF.
2007-06-01 17:10:38
195.   underdog
Okay, I've officially muted the Pirates announcers, before I fall into a coma.
2007-06-01 17:11:03
196.   overkill94
188 12-team NL-only with 15 hitters, 10 pitchers, 8 minor leaguers, and unlimited DL spots. Right now I'm starting guys like Joe Borchard and Nate McLouth (not to mention Wilson Betemit) - and no, my team doesn't suck, it's in 2nd place.
2007-06-01 17:11:33
197.   El Lay Dave
Hey, a three-run inning!
2007-06-01 17:12:18
198.   Bluebleeder87
nice inning by the Dodgers 4-2, & from what i understand the Pads are loosing i think.
2007-06-01 17:12:28
199.   MMSMikey
Little said he would start Mike Lieberthal behind the plate Saturday and bring Russell Martin back for Sunday's day game.
2007-06-01 17:12:45
200.   El Lay Dave
Olmedo will not lead off an inning in his next PA.
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2007-06-01 17:13:43
201.   El Lay Dave
198 And AZ in a scoreless tie in the fifth.
2007-06-01 17:14:43
202.   underdog
I wouldn't equate Abreu with Valdez at all; he's much younger, he has a higher ceiling and he's got scouts who like him, over Valdez, who excites no one. I can see making a case for LaRoche's bigger ceiling, though, as Dave says, and think Abreu will indeed end up eventually at 2nd base. Honestly, I think they'll both get their chances. But no, I don't see Abreu as another Valdez.
2007-06-01 17:15:06
203.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Is there fear out there that if Gonzo keeps up this similar pace we may be looking at him in LF next year too . . ? guess we should take what we can get and worry about next year, next year but, . . I wouldnt put it past the Dodgers front office . .
2007-06-01 17:16:32
204.   Bluebleeder87

was it this year when we pounded the Pirates on there home opener? (i think it was last year) there broadcasters were pretty sad/depressed that we did that.

2007-06-01 17:16:36
205.   scareduck
Did anyone see/comment on MGL's latest complete UZL list?

Jeff Kent is the worst fielding major league starter, apparently.

2007-06-01 17:17:03
206.   blutomania
203 Are people still not giving the Dodgers' front office any love? I think they've done a very commendable job.
2007-06-01 17:17:35
207.   Greg Brock
195 These Pirates announcers are, quite possibly, the most boring humans ever.

My word. And they just talk about random nonsense. Ad nauseam.

2007-06-01 17:17:57
208.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Okay, I've officially muted the Pirates announcers, before I fall into a coma.

were on the same page . . I muted it too! .....only its Steiner...

2007-06-01 17:19:11
209.   gpellamjr
206 You should probably hang out a bit and read the comments here for a while before you ask a question like that. It's a little broad and will only start trouble.
2007-06-01 17:19:20
210.   Jacob L
So the Pirates, themselves, are not "random nonsense?"
2007-06-01 17:19:43
211.   Jon Weisman
205 - I saw it, was pondering it, then got distracted.
2007-06-01 17:20:12
212.   old dodger fan
If you had to talk about the Pirates for 3 hours every night I'll bet you would run out of things to say too.
2007-06-01 17:20:27
213.   El Lay Dave
six hits and a walk, Wolf living a little dangerously, but, lucky for him, the Pirates stink.
2007-06-01 17:20:48
214.   El Lay Dave
six hits and two walks, Wolf living a little dangerously, but, lucky for him, the Pirates stink.
2007-06-01 17:21:08
215.   scareduck
Has the MLB Gameday Audio failed for anyone else listening to the feed that way? It's been silent for me for over two minutes.
2007-06-01 17:21:56
216.   MMSMikey
geez randy, get yourself together.
2007-06-01 17:22:00
217.   Kingmans Performance
NL West Update:

WAS-3 (4th)

PIT-0 (4th)

NY-0 (5th)

COL (6:05 PDT)

2007-06-01 17:22:23
218.   blutomania
213 Don't jinx things.

209 I'm here quite a bit.

2007-06-01 17:22:43
219.   El Lay Dave
Duffy, prototypical Tracy two batter: .241 .296 .348 this season, .268 .324 .359 career.
2007-06-01 17:22:55
220.   old dodger fan
I think we are going to see a lot of relief pitching tonight on both sides.
2007-06-01 17:23:08
221.   underdog
Um, or not.

Kent and Ethier made a pretty casual relay play there, each of them. They should have had a play at the plate.

Wolf is not having one of his better games today.

2007-06-01 17:23:32
222.   Jon Weisman
Sadly, the Dodgers might need to use Billingsley tonight.
2007-06-01 17:23:43
223.   Icaros
That was the loopiest curve I've seen in some time, and did he throw that creampuff on an 0-2 count?
2007-06-01 17:23:58
224.   LeeLacy
149, 151, 155
With 3 runs in the top of the inning, things are getting better all the time.

Still, Wolf will continue to need a little help from his friends.

And if Furcal or Pierre make it to third again, perhaps we'll soon be saying, "He's stealing home (bye bye)."

Okay, somebody stop me ....

2007-06-01 17:24:23
225.   Jacob L
220 I'm fine with that. Lets chase Duke right here and get into some tasty Pirate bullpen.
2007-06-01 17:24:31
226.   DXMachina
215 It dropped out for me, too. Unfortunately, it came back in time for Duffy's triple.
2007-06-01 17:24:37
227.   gpellamjr
215 Mine went out, but since I was listening to Rick Monday, I didn't notice for ten minutes. Then I refreshed it and the audio came back, and the Dodgers had lost the lead.
2007-06-01 17:24:44
228.   scareduck
207 - These Pirates announcers are, quite possibly, the most boring humans ever.

You would be too, if you had to have morphine injections before every game. I mean, how else can they stand to do that job?

2007-06-01 17:24:44
229.   El Lay Dave
uh, yeah, and a triple just waiting to pulled out of his, uh, sleeve.

Get Hull up!

2007-06-01 17:24:52
230.   underdog
215 "Has the MLB Gameday Audio failed for anyone else listening to the feed that way? It's been silent for me for over two minutes"

Maybe it just reverted over to the Pirates announcers.

2007-06-01 17:25:40
231.   Gen3Blue much as I like Wolf that wa a mighty fat pitch. Well heres a good test of the D's Psych. Many teams would say "we've been doing OK and it time for the offense to tke a break. A good team would set about getting the lead back. Of course I'm not sure what part of the orders up.
2007-06-01 17:25:53
232.   Humma Kavula
His Dreaminess strikes again!!
2007-06-01 17:25:55
233.   MMSMikey
did duffy push that ball over?
2007-06-01 17:25:58
234.   overkill94
Russell's showing a little power surge lately.
2007-06-01 17:26:12
235.   Bluebleeder87
i don't know if Jon mentioned it already (my apologies if he did) but he has an update UT
2007-06-01 17:26:23
236.   MMSMikey
lets go kent
2007-06-01 17:26:43
237.   Gen3Blue
Well the part of the order was Martin---so the lead is back. But I don't trust some of the others.
2007-06-01 17:26:43
238.   gpellamjr
Um... I'm listening to Rick Monday (have I mentioned that?). Did Martin just hit a homerun? I'm not sure.
2007-06-01 17:26:44
239.   Greg Brock
224 Wolf needs to start fixing the hole where the runs are getting in, and stop his mind from wandering.

I love you, Russell Martin.

2007-06-01 17:26:45
240.   underdog
{Mancrush, ON, again}

Another moon shot to dead center. Man, I love that guy. Nice pitcher's duel here so far.

2007-06-01 17:27:01
241.   DXMachina
231 And Martin answers.
2007-06-01 17:27:21
242.   k0b3
please grittle...leave russel in the 3rd spot and start running furcal more

kent is in a slump now...rolling over a lot of pitches recently

2007-06-01 17:28:02
243.   Gen3Blue
Y4eah, the rest are trying to leave on three pitches!
2007-06-01 17:28:46
244.   El Lay Dave
Russell Martin, All-Star.
2007-06-01 17:29:15
245.   LeeLacy
Another great at bat for Martin. Just a day in the life for the golden god.

This time, I'll stop ....

2007-06-01 17:29:23
246.   blutomania
Why pitchers don't just feed LuGo away is beyond me.
2007-06-01 17:29:26
247.   blutomania
Why pitchers don't just feed LuGo away is beyond me.
2007-06-01 17:29:31
248.   blutomania
Why pitchers don't just feed LuGo away is beyond me.
2007-06-01 17:30:11
249.   blutomania

Sorry all about the triple.

2007-06-01 17:30:42
250.   underdog
Kent does indeed appear to be slumping a bit lately. I wonder if it would be so terrible to actually have (gasp!) LaRoche and Abreu start one of these days, rest Kent.
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2007-06-01 17:31:30
251.   CanuckDodger
193 -- Abreu isn't a slap hitter, in the long run I expect him to be a very good MLB middle infielder AND hitter, and RIGHT NOW he is probably a superior 3B option to LaRoche. LaRoche needs to get back to Vegas and work on being more productive there than he was managing at the time of his call-up.
2007-06-01 17:31:31
252.   scareduck
249 - so is Randy Wolf.
2007-06-01 17:31:41
253.   Greg Brock
Russell Martin have a good stretch on the East Coast is perfect. A little publicity never hurt.

You know, being for the benefit of Mr. Martin.

2007-06-01 17:31:52
254.   El Lay Dave
Kent now 1 for his last 17. LuGo is 15 for his last 32 - ten game hitting streak.
2007-06-01 17:31:57
255.   Bluebleeder87

I had morphine injected to me when i dislocated my left shoulder, it felt pretty groovy for a while but then my head started hurting really bad.

2007-06-01 17:31:58
256.   Bluebleeder87

I had morphine injected to me when i dislocated my left shoulder, it felt pretty groovy for a while but then my head started hurting really bad.

2007-06-01 17:32:06
257.   overkill94
What's the record for most hits in a row? Dmitri Young's up to 7.
2007-06-01 17:32:13
258.   underdog
Abreu to the warning track... Not quite enough to get out. Ah well.
2007-06-01 17:33:17
259.   Bluebleeder87
that was a hick up from fairpole not me.
2007-06-01 17:33:30
260.   gpellamjr
I'd prefer Martin not get selected to the All-Star team. Let the kid rest for a few days.
2007-06-01 17:34:36
261.   MMSMikey
just voted for russell 5 times :)
2007-06-01 17:35:17
262.   Bluebleeder87

thats a good idea underdog.

2007-06-01 17:36:26
263.   old dodger fan
Nice inning for Wolf. Too bad he has already thrown 95 pitches.
2007-06-01 17:38:11
264.   overkill94
Looks like Hull will be the long guy tomorrow instead of Billingsley. Hopefully Kuo can get us six solid.
2007-06-01 17:38:33
265.   Bluebleeder87
hit one out already La Roche!
2007-06-01 17:39:00
266.   twerp
From last thread==

90.   Andrew Shimmin
There is a clear choice. You can't go far wrong laying the best player...

Andrew, sounds like you got some 'splainin' to do.

Can't believe you guys missed that juicy a typo!

2007-06-01 17:39:43
267.   MMSMikey
whats the story on saito? is his shoulder still sore?
2007-06-01 17:40:08
268.   Bluebleeder87
La Roche didn't stick around to long.
2007-06-01 17:41:24
269.   El Lay Dave
257 12 - Mike Higgins and Walt Dropo.
2007-06-01 17:41:59
270.   Marty
The home run call for Martin should have been "She's Leaving Home"
2007-06-01 17:42:33
271.   blutomania
Lets Go Bills!
2007-06-01 17:43:41
272.   dzzrtRatt

I don't get it.

--Carolyn Hughes & Alyssa Milano

2007-06-01 17:43:52
273.   El Lay Dave
267 According to Gurnick, Saito's ready to go.
2007-06-01 17:45:12
274.   LeeLacy
After that strikeout, there's now a rumor in Pittsburgh about whether Paul(ino) is dead.
2007-06-01 17:45:15
275.   Andrew Shimmin
251- What's he doing wrong? What's different? You wouldn't have put Abreu higher than LaRoche on the 3B depth chart at the beginning of the season, right?

I have no problem with Abreu. I hope he'll replace Kent, maybe next year, and have a long and productive career. His PECOTA projection for this year was .281/.325/.411. Anybody want to bet he'll beat that? Anybody want to bet he'll beat it by enough to sOPS+ 100 from the 3B spot? He had a .408 BABIP in Vegas. Anybody think he'll be able to keep that going?

2007-06-01 17:48:14
276.   Jon Weisman
Man, I'd like to see Chad go four innings tonight.
2007-06-01 17:48:24
277.   Andrew Shimmin
266- Hey, thanks. I thought I'd gotten away with it, when the new post up top came. Of course, this means war. In your shoes, I'd be mighty careful about my spelling and grammar, for the next month or so. Or until I forget that I'm holding a grudge, which, to be honest, could be about twenty minutes from now.
2007-06-01 17:50:05
278.   blutomania
So, what's the pecking order for Tomko and Hendrickson's spots?

Kuo, Schmidt, Houlton and Bills?

2007-06-01 17:50:56
279.   Bluebleeder87
wow, i just saw the "dugout conflict" between Barrett & Zambrano it didn't look good
2007-06-01 17:51:38
280.   El Lay Dave
OK Juan, now stay Within You. Without You, Russell, we'd be losing; hope you're still playing when I'm sixty-four.
2007-06-01 17:51:38
281.   MMSMikey
juan pierre putting pressure on the defense.
2007-06-01 17:53:57
282.   El Lay Dave
What's this? Last night Torres was trying to close and blew it. Has Tracy demoted him?
2007-06-01 17:55:24
283.   Kingmans Performance

I was watching that game this afternoon.
Zambrano left Wrigley Field right after trying to throw a punch at Cub catcher Michael Barrett. Pinella pulled Barrett too and replaced him with Koye Hill.

2007-06-01 17:55:42
284.   El Lay Dave
276 That would be phenomenal.
2007-06-01 17:58:44
285.   twerp
277. Ok. I'll consider myself, warned. :0)
2007-06-01 17:59:26
286.   bhsportsguy
95 MPH? Wow
2007-06-01 17:59:35
287.   CanuckDodger
275 -- I don't know what has been wrong with LaRoche this year, but he performed a lot better in Vegas last year than he was performing in the same place this year. It could be that he needs time to make more progress in recovering from shoulder surgery, getting back full strength. Abreu was doing very well in Vegas when we called him up, and I think he can productively fill a stopgap role as a 3B in the majors, with at least a good average if not ideal 3B power. Long term for Abreu, I see him hitting much like Ray Durham while playing infinitely superior 2B defense.
2007-06-01 17:59:37
288.   Bluebleeder87
Bills looks awesome!
2007-06-01 18:00:34
289.   bhsportsguy
Hey Nate, do you recall Bills hitting this velocity last year?
2007-06-01 18:00:55
290.   underdog
This Billingsley kid looks good. Can we keep him, Dad, can we, huh? Huh?
2007-06-01 18:01:41
291.   Greg Brock
Nice job by the innings eater.
2007-06-01 18:02:21
292.   MMSMikey
i'd leave chad in for the 8th, unless his spot comes up.
2007-06-01 18:02:45
293.   El Lay Dave
So do you think this kid Billingsley could be a starter?
2007-06-01 18:03:26
294.   El Lay Dave
291 That Grady comment still grating on you, eh? Can't blame you.
2007-06-01 18:03:40
295.   LeeLacy
Well, so far Billingsley's been a lucky man who's made the grade.
2007-06-01 18:04:12
296.   underdog
Okay, nobody said anything when I started this all off with an Eleanor Rigby (Bigbie) joke in an earlier thread today, and yet there was No Reply. Now here y'all are, making Beatles references left and right. Well, I want some credit! I should've known better. Sigh. I'll cry instead.
2007-06-01 18:04:25
297.   Greg Brock
294 Yes
2007-06-01 18:07:11
298.   El Lay Dave
296 Some are sticking solely to Sgt. Pepper reference, but I did laugh at the Larry Bigbie bit.
2007-06-01 18:07:16
299.   CanuckDodger
289 -- Billingsley reached 96 MPH in his first MLB game last year, in San Diego, but he seemed to lose velocity the longer he stayed in the majors, and I think Bills said this year that he suffered with a bit of "dead arm."
2007-06-01 18:08:47
300.   Bluebleeder87

i heard Barrett left the game with a fat lip, it's not nice to watch stuff like that but it happens sometimes.

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2007-06-01 18:09:59
301.   LeeLacy
Very nice. Belated credit goes to you. But instead of being despondent, take a sad post and make it better.
2007-06-01 18:10:21
302.   underdog
298 Ah, good, thanks. Glad we could come together on that at least.

Wow, Bills strikes to BBs ratio today is phenomenal.

2007-06-01 18:10:52
303.   underdog
er, balls, not BBs that is.

And there he goes. So long Chad, and thanks for all the fish.

2007-06-01 18:12:05
304.   Kingmans Performance

The Beatles song jokes are making this Dodger game very enjoyable!

Let It Be!

2007-06-01 18:12:17
305.   StolenMonkey86
hey, the laroche bros have the same average
2007-06-01 18:12:54
306.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Wow . .im going to go on record now and say I hate this move . . he was on a roll . . if you want to play the %'s leave the better pitcher in there
2007-06-01 18:13:20
307.   MMSMikey
2007-06-01 18:14:01
308.   LeeLacy
Too bad Gonzalez didn't go deep in his last bat. I was already to make a post about Luis in the Sky with Diamonds.
2007-06-01 18:14:12
309.   underdog
Wait, why did we take Billingsley out again?

On the other hand, these are the kinds of matchups that Beimel has to come through on.

2007-06-01 18:14:50
310.   Bluebleeder87
is Saito gonna throw 2 innings today i thought he had a sore shoulder? Grady Little confuses me sometimes.
2007-06-01 18:14:51
311.   Uncle Miltie
Questionable move by Grits. Billinglsey was mowing them down…who cares about the lefty/lefty matchup….
2007-06-01 18:14:57
312.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
k saito is in but, would anyone still rather see Bills at this point? . . I think I would
2007-06-01 18:15:12
313.   regfairfield
Dear Joe Beimel,

I have to put you in consideration for "Dodger I dislike the most". Please consider the gravity of this statement.


2007-06-01 18:15:40
314.   Andrew Shimmin
287- So you don't want a piece of any of the action I laid on the table?

I understand.

2007-06-01 18:16:25
315.   Uncle Miltie
Vs. LHP .255/.314/.362 .675
Vs. RHP .200/.321/.348 .669

Grits doesn't even have the numbers in his favor to back up the move.

2007-06-01 18:16:28
316.   MMSMikey
paulino has K written all over him.
2007-06-01 18:17:52
317.   Bluebleeder87
Bills was in a role so yeah bad move on Gradys part.
2007-06-01 18:18:20
318.   El Lay Dave
I don't understand the move at all. There were NO baserunners - worst case is LaRoche hits it out and the game is tied. Otherwise you have him aboard and Billingsley pitching to the BOTTOM of the order, WEAK righties. And now Saito, albeit rested, but had to rest a STIFF SHOULDER, has to pitch a 1 2/3 inning save. Plus they want to stretch Billingsley, no?
2007-06-01 18:19:46
319.   StolenMonkey86
312 - This reminds me of that bit on the Andy Griffith show when Andy butted heads with the mayor and a bear chased the guy up a tree.
2007-06-01 18:19:57
320.   El Lay Dave
Plus Billingsley had only thrown 29 pitches, 20 for strikes!
2007-06-01 18:20:10
321.   LeeLacy
Beimel was a real nowhere man tonight.

Plus, he has the worst Gameday photo. Looks like he just woke up, got out of bed, and dragged a comb across his head.

2007-06-01 18:20:20
322.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
I have to put you in consideration for "Dodger I dislike the most"

but if he's not on the team who will be our all important LOOGY with not very good per. stats!?

2007-06-01 18:20:47
323.   Uncle Miltie
Great job by Saito. It might be a good idea to have Broxton close.
2007-06-01 18:20:48
324.   Frip
Steiner is good, but he hiccups the "oh by the way" cliche way too often.

And oh by the way, it's time that everyone in tv land to stop calling pitcher's stuff "nasty". The term lost its zing about 2 years ago.

2007-06-01 18:21:05
325.   Bluebleeder87
Saito made quick work of the Pirates.
2007-06-01 18:21:05
326.   regfairfield
Both Wilson and Paulino looked amazingly bad in those at bats.
2007-06-01 18:22:41
327.   underdog
The only thing I can say in defense of pulling Billingsley is that they fear they may need him tomorrow, especially of Kuo's starting. So they not want to "overwork" him, and thought, heck, Beimel can get the lefty out. Well, it didn't work and I don't agree with it, but there's some logic behind it. Plus Saito hadn't pitched all week. He can go 5 outs.
2007-06-01 18:23:03
328.   El Lay Dave
320 Oops, box wasn't updated - make that 34 pitches, 23 strikes for Billingsley.
2007-06-01 18:24:10
329.   gpellamjr
326 Fanboy edit: Saito made both Wilson and Paulino look amazingly bad in those at bats.
2007-06-01 18:24:30
330.   old dodger fan
What was the point in bringing up Hull? Is he afraid to use him in a 1-run game?
2007-06-01 18:24:32
331.   MMSMikey
ethier can look awful up there sometimes.
2007-06-01 18:24:35
332.   El Lay Dave
308 I was hoping against hope for Ramon Martinez to get a PH homer so I could use a Lucille II in the sky with diamonds line....
2007-06-01 18:25:04
333.   regfairfield
329 I'd say it was about 50/50.
2007-06-01 18:25:14
334.   Icaros

Really? Not 17 years ago when the term was used to name the Reds bullpen?

2007-06-01 18:25:25
335.   LeeLacy
It sure would be nice to see an insurance run or two this inning.

So, come on, Dodgers! Put some Norwegian Wood on the ball!

2007-06-01 18:25:45
336.   El Lay Dave
330 Yes - Hull is depth only, last guy out of the pen, one would think.
2007-06-01 18:25:57
337.   MMSMikey
8 straight hits for DA MEAT HOOK
2007-06-01 18:26:49
338.   underdog
330 Is Hull even with the team yet? I was assuming he would be available starting tomorrow but maybe that's wrong. I think it's right to assume they're more expectant to have to use him tomorrow, anyway.

332/335: Heh.

2007-06-01 18:28:09
339.   gpellamjr
Greg Pellam softball update: Last night I went 3-4 with a double and two singles. The out was another weak popup to the pitcher.

We lost 13-7, having scored 7 runs in the 1st inning.

The umpire was on my case after I asked him if he was in a hurry after he made a horrible call, calling out our leadoff hitter on strikes. He made derogatory comments about my weight and refused to call any runner out at 1B while I was playing there.

2007-06-01 18:28:42
340.   underdog
Damn, Furcal just got under that one.

Okay, c'mon Sammy! Don'

We wanna see that smile.

2007-06-01 18:28:51
341.   old dodger fan
So they brought Hull up just for some extra HELP!
2007-06-01 18:29:41
342.   El Lay Dave
323 I assume that if Broxton were going to be used tonight, it would have been in the 8th.
2007-06-01 18:30:25
343.   MMSMikey
room service ground ball
2007-06-01 18:32:19
344.   Kingmans Performance
nl w update

NY-1 (9th)

WAS-3 (9th)

EAGLES-0 (8th)

COL-0 (2nd)

2007-06-01 18:34:16
345.   D4P
The Pirates lost that game in the first inning. When you follow up a single with two doubles, you need to score two runs.
2007-06-01 18:34:19
346.   Greg Brock
We win!
2007-06-01 18:34:24
347.   MMSMikey
the smile.
2007-06-01 18:35:08
348.   Bluebleeder87

i think he's been overworked no? nice to see him rest tonight. Dodgers take the first game, woo!

2007-06-01 18:35:19
349.   old dodger fan
I feel fine.
2007-06-01 18:35:22
350.   LeeLacy
Bang! Bang! Saito's Silver Hammer came down upon their heads.
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2007-06-01 18:35:26
351.   bhsportsguy
346 And no late night for you today.
2007-06-01 18:36:14
352.   underdog
344 Heh. Man, couldn't the Phils at least shown up tonight? What gives?

Come on Redskins!

2007-06-01 18:36:50
353.   Branch Rickey
Anybody who thinks that Grady protects players' streaks should check what he did tonight. That's about as tough a save as you can get. Coming in in the 8th with a runner in scoring position. But Saito says "no problem!" (in Japanese of course).
2007-06-01 18:37:06
354.   LeeLacy
If Pierre had caught the final out of the game, could we have dubbed that the Ballad of Juan and Saito?
2007-06-01 18:37:07
355.   El Lay Dave
Saito only needed 20 pitches total, that's a good thing.
2007-06-01 18:37:25
356.   Greg Brock
351 I'm driving to Los Angeles tomorrow. Need sleep.
2007-06-01 18:38:06
357.   underdog
Well, I'm gonna let it be, for awhile. See you all tomorrow, as it were.
2007-06-01 18:38:08
358.   old dodger fan
Good night Lucy
2007-06-01 18:38:26
359.   Bluebleeder87
Hopefully the Nats pull of the win tonight against the Pads.
2007-06-01 18:38:35
360.   El Lay Dave
356 The long and winding road that leads to your (old) door? To get back to where you once belonged?
2007-06-01 18:38:36
361.   Branch Rickey
Anyone here going to San Diego next week?
2007-06-01 18:39:03
362.   scooplew
That was a save in the tradition of the late, great Clem Labine: coming in with the tying run in scoring position, getting out of the inning unscathed, and then mowing down the opposition in the 9th inning. In those days, there was no particular name for saves, however.
Saito is something special.
2007-06-01 18:39:33
363.   StolenMonkey86
Tie game, bottom 9.

Schneider, Langerhans, Fick due up for the Nats

2007-06-01 18:39:52
364.   Greg Brock
360 I've got a ticket to ride.
2007-06-01 18:40:22
365.   Branch Rickey
Hopefully the Dodgers can fix the hole in their rotation tomorrow.
2007-06-01 18:40:48
366.   El Lay Dave
11 Ks and 2 BBs for the Dodger pitchers; 8 and 0 from the relievers. Now the sun will rise in the east again.
2007-06-01 18:41:39
367.   El Lay Dave
364 Oh, did you tell someone, "you can drive my car"?
2007-06-01 18:42:29
368.   Kingmans Performance
Tonight the Dodgers proved they can Come Together, Anytime At All and win. It shows they can Get Back to where they once belong, 1st place. We saw timely offense and piching Here There And Everywhere with their 32nd victory of the season. I've Got A Feeling that the Dodgers can sweep the Pirates, Don't Let Me Down blue crew. The Fool On The Hill may not see a pennant this year, but you've gotta appreciate it's A Long And Winding Road to the World Series.

ok that's the best I can do tonight.;)

2007-06-01 18:43:15
369.   D4P
I'm driving to Los Angeles tomorrow. Need sleep

How long is the drive...?

2007-06-01 18:43:51
370.   LeeLacy
Yes, here comes the sun.
2007-06-01 18:45:19
371.   Greg Brock
369 Not too long. From here to Los Angeles.

I almost thought of coming home today, but the 405 on a Friday afternoon is...unappealing.

Plus, I think I can catch the CIF finals at Dodger Stadium tomorrow.

2007-06-01 18:46:23
372.   StolenMonkey86
Fick singles, Lopez comes to bat.
2007-06-01 18:46:49
373.   StolenMonkey86
2 outs, man on 1st, one out in Da Capital
2007-06-01 18:48:36
374.   D4P
From here to Los Angeles

And with that, all ambiguity is gone.

2007-06-01 18:49:51
375.   underdog
368 Isn't the Fool on the Hill Brett Tomko?
2007-06-01 18:50:07
376.   El Lay Dave
At one point Matt Morris was 3-3 at the plate and had a no-hitter through 5. They pulled him after he gave up one hit in the sixth since it was a blowout.
2007-06-01 18:50:23
377.   Greg Brock
I was going to fly, but my tuberculosis is acting up, and they're starting to make a big deal about that kind of thing. Whatever.
2007-06-01 18:51:36
378.   D4P
Meanwhile, the Phillies have a runner at first with one out in the 9th.
2007-06-01 19:01:08
379.   Andrew Shimmin
I've been thinking about it for a while, now, and I'm pretty sure that there isn't a baseball player as overrated as The Beatles. Not even close.
2007-06-01 19:01:38
380.   El Lay Dave
Padres have runner at the corners with two out after Branyan struck out.
2007-06-01 19:02:22
381.   StolenMonkey86
bottom of the 10th now after a bouncer to Fick.

Lopez, Guzman, Zimmerman due up

2007-06-01 19:02:28
382.   D4P
Geoff Blum! batting for the Padres.
2007-06-01 19:02:36
383.   El Lay Dave
Blum grounds out and the Padres waste a one-out, runner on the corners opportunity.
2007-06-01 19:03:20
384.   LeeLacy
As for the main topic of this thread, Brazoban may have a Rubber Soul but apparently not a rubber arm. So he's off to see Doctor Robert (or Dr. Frank, as the case may be).

And in the end, the wins you take are equal to the breaks you make.

2007-06-01 19:05:05
385.   StolenMonkey86
Guzman singles to center. 1 out, Zimmerman up.
2007-06-01 19:06:07
386.   xaphor
353 No mondai

379 Russel Martin is bigger than Jesus!

2007-06-01 19:06:15
387.   StolenMonkey86
Nats 1 out, runners on corners with a Zimmerman single to right.
2007-06-01 19:07:08
388.   bhsportsguy
377 If you make the game, I will treat at Phillipes afterwards.

I am going to meet up with ToyCannon at the Stadium to watch the games.

2007-06-01 19:07:12
389.   El Lay Dave
379 According to Jayson Stark, Koufax.
2007-06-01 19:07:44
390.   StolenMonkey86
Belliard singles, Nats win
2007-06-01 19:08:22
391.   El Lay Dave
Ronnie Belliard PHing against Meredith.
2007-06-01 19:08:50
392.   El Lay Dave
390 Indeed!
2007-06-01 19:08:59
393.   bhsportsguy
And now there are only 2 tied for first.
2007-06-01 19:09:27
394.   Gen3Blue
And washington beats Sandiego in 10. Sam DC you are the best, as I have always contended.
2007-06-01 19:10:20
395.   El Lay Dave
388 Man, I'd like to see that game, but I will be busy installing flooring in my living room and sanding cabinets in my kitchen. Enjoy watching the Chatsworth kids clock Cleveland again.
2007-06-01 19:12:01
396.   El Lay Dave
The Kuo (one assumes) roster move is supposed to be announced tonight.
2007-06-01 19:15:36
397.   Greg Brock
388 I'll most likely be going with friends of mine that were bounced in the CIF semis for the second year in a row.
2007-06-01 19:20:15
398.   bhsportsguy
Nate's latest Dodger Pitching Prospect, Mr. McDonald is pitching tonight in San Berdoo, first inning, 3 strikeouts.
2007-06-01 19:21:35
399.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like the Nats win in the 10th by old friend Victorino. Nice job Nats, thanks.
2007-06-01 19:29:27
400.   Andrew Shimmin
Victorino plays for the Phillies.
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2007-06-01 19:32:51
401.   Eric Enders
And Mitch Jones breaks up the Nashville shutout with a solo HR in the 9th to make it 6-1. Gallardo dominated the 51s -- 7 innings, 3 hits, 11 Ks.
2007-06-01 19:37:12
402.   StolenMonkey86
tie game in Cleveland
2007-06-01 19:43:57
403.   Daniel Zappala
I always pictured Greg Brock teaching in the Midwest someplace ... like Iowa.

Mitch Jones for CF!

2007-06-01 19:46:18
404.   Daniel Zappala
Oh, and Cleveland scored 5 runs in the bottom of the ninth to win 12-11, after Detroit scored 2 in the top of the ninth.
2007-06-01 19:52:56
405.   Greg Brock
403 Nah, I'm in California. I'm not too too far away from Los Angeles, but I can't come home very often because my car is a POS. So I only make it home maybe twice a year.

I will be home for awhile. I've got a gig lined up for next year, but I'm looking for a better one!

2007-06-01 20:01:30
406.   Eric Enders
The Chicago Tribune and Sun-Times both came up with exactly the same headline for the Zambrano Affair. ("Slugout in the Dugout.") Weak.
2007-06-01 20:06:27
407.   SoSG Orel
405. Just like J.D. Drew!
2007-06-01 20:07:53
408.   Andrew Shimmin
Barret had to go to the hospital? I guess round two in the clubhouse didn't go well for him.
2007-06-01 20:14:51
409.   Greg Brock
407 Exactly. But at 1/333 the cost.
2007-06-01 20:17:12
410.   CanuckDodger
405 -- What kind of car do you drive, Greg? Year? Make? Model? My 1985 Pontiac Bonneville finally gave up the ghost a couple weeks ago. Chunks of it were starting to fall onto the street.
2007-06-01 20:17:49
411.   Greg Brock
Lou Pinella is disappointed in Zambrano and Barrett. Rob Dibble was unavailable for comment.
2007-06-01 20:21:11
412.   Greg Brock
410 I have a '98 Camry and the engine leaks like a sivv. Oil, transmission fluid, the whole nine. So every time I have to drive anywhere further more than three or four hours away I change all my fluids out of sheer paranoia. Gets a tad expensive.

So I'm trapped. Like a rat.

2007-06-01 20:23:36
413.   JoeyP
Carlos Zambrano and catcher Michael Barrett shoved each other in the dugout, then the pitcher busted his teammate's lip in the clubhouse so badly that Barrett wound up in a hospital

Message to Barrett:
Dont mess with Big Z.

2007-06-01 20:24:41
414.   CanuckDodger
Only a '98? It's a little early for that many things to be going wrong on a Camry. How many miles have you put on it?
2007-06-01 20:28:59
415.   Andrew Shimmin
414- Brock probably didn't change his oil the first six year of owning the car. As has been established, he's a man of little character.

I bet he drives with the emergency brake on, too.

2007-06-01 20:30:30
416.   Greg Brock
414 I can get the valves and whatnot replaced, but I just want to get home to mechanics I grew up with and know will do a good job.

I don't have the best luck with cars. Or mechanics. Or a lot of other things.

2007-06-01 20:31:47
417.   Greg Brock
415 Thanks, Andrew. Bill Gurnick approves ;)
2007-06-01 20:33:10
418.   Jon Weisman
Kuo up, LaRoche down.

2007-06-01 20:34:51
419.   ToyCannon
Since you teach at a high school you will probably have a lot of unexplained things go wrong with your car. It is the nature of a parking lot full of authority figures surrounded by 100's of kids who dislike authority figures and are dared to do oh so many things.
Not that I ever did:)
2007-06-01 20:35:10
420.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Regarding ESPN and Baseball Tonight, realize you have some pretty bad analysts to have them judged well.... by well... just by not being awful . . that being said I dont think Orestes Destrada is that bad . . not very smooth but, still no Tino . . am I crazy?
2007-06-01 20:35:46
421.   Andrew Shimmin
Diomand Leung made the LaRoche down/Kuo up announcement.

2007-06-01 20:35:49
422.   ToyCannon
Please Kuo, don't bring me down.
2007-06-01 20:36:41
423.   ToyCannon
Greg, you joining us at DS?
2007-06-01 20:37:26
424.   Greg Brock
LaRoche down, Kuo up.

You say goodbye, I say hello.

2007-06-01 20:37:27
425.   Andrew Shimmin
Hang it all.

I think it's possible I'm responsible for this. I sponsored the baseball-reference LaRoche page, starting yesterday. Today he gets sent down. I swear I will only use my powers for good, from now on. Come to papa, Hendrickson. . .

2007-06-01 20:39:06
426.   Greg Brock
423 I hope so. I just have to make sure my friends are going. Driving into Torrance and driving out to DS is not something I want my car to go through.

If they go, I'm going. I want to see the D1 game very, very much.

2007-06-01 20:39:10
427.   ToyCannon
CubTown says that one of the two combatants will be gone by the weekend. Does anyone agree with that? Seems farfetched to me, these things usually blow over fairly quickly.
2007-06-01 20:46:03
428.   Daniel Zappala
Can't the LA Times hire Jon to cover the Dodgers? Assuming you'd want the job of course, Jon...
2007-06-01 20:52:50
429.   JoeyP

Abreu/Kuo for Zambrano
July 31, 2007

2007-06-01 20:53:33
430.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.

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