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Dodger Thoughts Day at Dodger Stadium: Order Your Tickets Now
2007-06-06 16:48
by Jon Weisman

Dodger Thoughts will celebrate its fifth anniversary July 21, and the celebration will take place at Dodger Stadium while the Dodgers host the New York Mets. And you have the opportunity to pay to be a part of it all!

Each ticket to the game will cost $24.50, including fee for e-mailing the ticket to you. No, we are not sitting in the bleachers for the Saturday afternoon game. Per my request, Dodger Thoughts commenter Bhsportsguy is doing his best to get our group tickets in the shade.

To get a ticket, send me the $24.50 via the Paypal link on the sidebar. I'll then forward the money to Bhsportsguy, who will handle purchase and distribution.

The event depends on having at least 30 people attend, which looked likely based upon the interest that was expressed earlier this year. If for some reason the event gets called off, I will refund your money.

Questions? Comments? The floor is yours.

* * *

Tonight's game:


Retro Gameday

Comments (294)
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2007-06-06 17:07:11
1.   Curtis Lowe
Martins Spartans?
2007-06-06 17:08:16
2.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Count me in, sending my cash now.
2007-06-06 17:09:14
3.   Xeifrank
Will there be a raffle to determine who gets to throw out the first pitch? Perhaps the LA Times will cover the event? Or atleast a shout-out on Diamond Vision.
vr, Xei
2007-06-06 17:09:35
4.   Eric Enders
July 22 also marks the 20th anniversary of the last time I attended a game at Dodger Stadium.

Hmm. Maybe this July would be a good time for a road trip.

2007-06-06 17:10:05
5.   Jon Weisman
4 - Go for it!
2007-06-06 17:10:20
6.   underdog
Damn, I wish I was gonna be in town for the outing. :-( I'll be in socal later this month and maybe again in August but not then. Rats.

I guess "The DTs" probably isn't a good nickname for the group.

2007-06-06 17:10:23
7.   Xeifrank
DodgerSims is giving the Dodgers a win probability of 49.2%, basically a tossup or at the very least a closer game than last night. Perhaps a 10 or 11 inning one run game this time. :)
Go Dodgers!
vr, Xei
2007-06-06 17:10:56
8.   Bluebleeder87
count me in also
2007-06-06 17:11:14
9.   Eric Enders
Hey, Nate, question for you -- Kevin Goldstein's latest draft projection has Porcello slipping all the way to 27. You think White would take him if he's there?
2007-06-06 17:13:13
10.   underdog
7 Hard to imagine a closer game than last night. ;-) But I'm glad the odds are slightly better at least. I really hope they take this one... but I'll be getting, er, seeing "Knocked Up" while they play their little hearts out, so buena suerte, azul!
2007-06-06 17:13:17
11.   Bluebleeder87
i'll be wearing my DT's t-shirt.
2007-06-06 17:14:16
12.   D4P
Have you ever made any effort to look back and evaluate the predictive success of DodgerSims? I'd be curious to know its "record"...
2007-06-06 17:14:39
13.   Eric Stephen
Prediction: Randy Wolf vs. Pedro Martinez, July 21
2007-06-06 17:15:26
14.   bhsportsguy
9 Nate may still be in Vegas so I would repeat this question later on.

10 You sound the Brick.

2007-06-06 17:18:17
15.   trainwreck
I really hope so. I am just worried that White and Ned will want nothing to do with Boras. That would pretty much be the only reason.
2007-06-06 17:18:25
16.   ToyCannon
I've got my own for that day but if you need a ticket to push you to 30 let me know.
2007-06-06 17:19:10
17.   ToyCannon
That and the 10 Million for a HS arm.
2007-06-06 17:20:06
18.   Bob Timmermann
Stop by the library before the game and say hi to me.

I won't tell you where I'll be working so you will have to engage in a "Where's Waldo" like search to find me.

2007-06-06 17:20:21
19.   Eric Enders
17 Well, there are certainly worse uses of $10 million. Several of whom are in the starting lineup tonight.
2007-06-06 17:21:43
20.   Eric Enders
18 You have to remember to wear the red-and-white striped shirt, though.
2007-06-06 17:23:21
21.   ToyCannon
They say Porcello is the best arm in HS since Beckett and that is why he wants a Beckett contract. In reviewing the 99 draft only 9 players drafted in the 1st round have made the majors. Tell me again why were all excited about the draft? We drafted Repko that year but the number of duds is astonishing.
2007-06-06 17:24:36
22.   Bob Timmermann
I just have a red and white checkered shirt.
2007-06-06 17:26:21
23.   D4P
Plus various college-themed sweatshirts.
2007-06-06 17:26:53
24.   twerp
Near the end of last thread there was mention of the good job Seanez has done lately.

Wonder why his five strikeouts in two innings to finish Kuo's start didn't make a video highlight?

Seems like every other instances of pitchers doing something that impressive have been video highlighted...

2007-06-06 17:28:16
25.   trainwreck
Has Porcello even accepted a college scholarship?
2007-06-06 17:29:10
26.   Eric Enders
21 "Tell me again why were all excited about the draft?"

1. James Loney, 1b, Elkins HS, Missouri City, Texas.
2. Jonathan Broxton, rhp, Burke County HS, Waynesboro, Ga.
17. Russell Martin, 2b, Chipola (Fla.) JC.

1. Chad Billingsley, rhp, Defiance (Ohio) HS
6. Matthew Kemp, of, Midwest City (Okla.) HS
39. Andy LaRoche, ss, Grayson County (Texas) CC

2007-06-06 17:30:34
27.   Ricardo
"The Dodgers are high on Travis Mattair at No. 20, especially since most of the better arms will be gone by that pick. They've also looked heavily at Kansas high school catcher Derek Norris, and might pop him as high as No. 39. "

Maybe there´s a plan to move Russell Martin to other position.

2007-06-06 17:31:04
28.   bhsportsguy
22 So let's see the DT Tour of LA would include a stop at Public Library; a So Cal food run at either In N Out, Tito's Tacos or Phillipe's; and a Dodger game of course. What else would be on this list?
2007-06-06 17:31:11
29.   Eric Enders
24 It may just be randomness, but it seems like Seanez has pitched really well in games that we were already losing or winning by large margins, and has failed whenever the game is on the line (with a couple of exceptions).
2007-06-06 17:33:04
30.   Humma Kavula
27 He's a high school catcher. Even assuming that he ever amounts to anything and makes the majors, that'll be four years from now at least.
2007-06-06 17:33:29
31.   trainwreck
I doubt it. I think they just want to take best player available.
2007-06-06 17:34:55
32.   El Lay Dave
21 The 1999 first round, courtsey of Baseball Reference:
2007-06-06 17:35:40
33.   Curtis Lowe
28 - No King Taco?
2007-06-06 17:36:09
34.   trainwreck
I miss good Mexican food.
2007-06-06 17:36:36
35.   jasonungar07
Oh I am so in. I'll run the date past my master scheduler (wife) but don't forsee any problems with the date.
2007-06-06 17:36:54
36.   Marty
Paypal is for some reason insisting I add a new credit card even though I already have two on record. It's very frustrating.
2007-06-06 17:36:58
37.   bhsportsguy
33 You can subsitute whatever local or Southern Califonia created food place for what I wrote in the original post.

Sure King Taco (once sold at Dodger Stadium) can go there.

2007-06-06 17:37:00
38.   D4P
The 1999 first round

Larry Bigbie! Ja(y)son Repko!

2007-06-06 17:37:34
39.   Ricardo
31 You´re right, Russell Martin was a 3rd basemen. They aren´t worried with the position but with his tools.
2007-06-06 17:37:43
40.   bhsportsguy
34 Is that a compliment or indictment of Tito's Tacos?
2007-06-06 17:39:01
41.   El Lay Dave
32 The stats on that page appear to be through yesterday, but who knows why nothing shows up for Josh Hamilton.
2007-06-06 17:40:21
42.   Eric Enders
Checking Seanez's game logs, my impression in 29 was completely incorrect.
2007-06-06 17:41:09
43.   trainwreck
I have no idea Tito's Tacos existed till this thread. I haven't had any good Mexican food since I left Santa Barbara.
2007-06-06 17:41:25
44.   trainwreck
2007-06-06 17:42:46
45.   Dodgers49
The big question: Where are the Dodgers going to get their power?

>>> A better fit for the Dodgers, however, might be Miguel Cabrera of the Marlins. He's making $7.4 million this year and probably will be due a hefty raise in arbitration. The Marlins know they won't be able to afford that, so look for the Dodgers to begin inquiring about him soon. <<<

2007-06-06 17:43:06
46.   Marty
~Langers in McArthur Park
~A trip to the corner of 42nd and Avalon to see where the old Wrigley Field was.
~A visit to 7700 Beverly Boulevard where the old Gilmore Field, home of the Hollywood Stars stood.
2007-06-06 17:43:46
47.   Eric Enders
How many bases will Martin steal against Maddux/Bard tonight? Over/under is 1.5 (which won't make any money for the house, I guess).
2007-06-06 17:43:51
48.   Marty
I am so not a fan of Tito's Tacos.
2007-06-06 17:44:30
49.   bhsportsguy
25 He has a LOI with North Carolina to play baseball.
2007-06-06 17:47:39
50.   Eric Enders
From the article linked in 45:
"And with Marlon Anderson getting close to a minor league rehab assignment, that figures to only add to the momentum to keep Kemp in the minors for now."

Is there really any chance at all that there will be a spot on the team for Anderson when he's ready? I just don't see who they would get rid of on the current roster except for Brady Clark, and in that case it would probably be for Kemp and not Anderson.

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2007-06-06 17:50:25
51.   Marty
I caved in to the evil lords at PayPal and I'm officially on for the game. LAT should bring his daughter since it's the Mets.
2007-06-06 17:54:16
52.   bhsportsguy
Paul Byrd finally walked someone.
2007-06-06 17:57:58
53.   trainwreck
Cabrera hurt his hamstring last night. He needs to lose some weight.
2007-06-06 17:59:39
54.   trainwreck
It is looking like the Stanley Cup is coming to California, because the Ducks already have an 0-2 lead in the first period.
2007-06-06 18:01:55
55.   LAT
51. Marty, I will be there sans daughter. Unfortunately, she will be out of town. However, we are going to all three games next week to make up for it. I just hope he plays. (Maybe we will even get a TV shot with both of us in Green jerseys, her in a Mets one and me in a Dodger one. That's something Vin might comment on if the camera finds us.)

I'm really looking forward to the DT outing. I have not been able to attend previous outings and am looking forward to meeting a lot of the nice and witty people I have read here over the years, including our host.

2007-06-06 18:06:26
56.   neuroboy002
48 Their commercials drive me nuts (along with those "Head-on" ads - I could kill every main actor in those). But it does work, I am very curious as to how those tacos taste. Wish I had something legitimate in which compare it. I usually go for a Wahoo's taco if anyone has eaten those.
2007-06-06 18:07:03
57.   bhsportsguy
54 I can see the parade down Main Street. Not in Anaheim but at Disneyland with Emilio Estevez playing the role as the head coach.
2007-06-06 18:07:03
58.   CanuckDodger
27 -- Ricardo, could you cite the source of that quote?

Mattair is somebody I have been quite interested in, and it is completely believable that the Dodgers are interested in him. He's exactly like Preston Mattingly, who was in turn like Matt Kemp as a high school senior: a big package of tools and athleticism who has been more of a basketball player than a baseball player. But taking him as high as #20 overall? BA lists Mattair as a 2nd round talent, #98 on their top 200 list, so I thought we should target him at #86, but of course Logan White doesn't care about BA's rankings if he really likes somebody, evidenced by the fact that he took Mattingly at #31 last year when Mattingly didn't even crack BA's Top 200 list

2007-06-06 18:08:01
59.   k0b3
the reply of last nights dodger game is on and I saw the Pierre at-bats again. Wow were they pitiful....what a gamer we have in CF for the next FIVE years
2007-06-06 18:14:07
60.   trainwreck
I hate how they stopped trying to associate themselves with the movies. That is the only reason why anyone even cared about them.
2007-06-06 18:16:04
61.   Dodgers49
The Boras Factor

Super agent's grip on June draft under fire from MLB

2007-06-06 18:17:47
62.   Marty
61 Man, Jon Heyman looks different from when I knew him at the Torrance paper. But then I look a lot older too.
2007-06-06 18:18:44
63.   Curtis Lowe
60 - Really? I only started to notice them once they dropped the gimmick. The only way that I could care for them is if they decreased the flashiness of their uniforms even more and just went a with a simple silhouette of a duck.
2007-06-06 18:20:53
64.   Ricardo
58 Canuck, the link:
2007-06-06 18:25:13
65.   Suffering Bruin
It's 6:20pm and I'm in a bad mood. I've been dealing with high school kids for over eleven hours, not including the drive home from beautiful South Central Los Angeles.

And then... this post. DT night on 7/21. Three words...

Count me in.

This is going to be fun.

2007-06-06 18:25:17
66.   Ricardo
His scouting report:

Mattair began the year No. 3 on the list of top Washington high school prospects, but scouts developed a better appreciation of his athleticism, bigger and more powerful frame, makeup and impressive all-around ability. They believe now that he can be a solid, everyday third baseman—in the mould of Scott Rolen, both at the plate and in the field. He has excellent power potential and demonstrated it repeatedly for scouts in BP sessions with his ability to square up balls. He didn't always carry his power into games, with the exception of a three-home run-game this spring, but for the most part he was pitched around almost at will. He may be one of those rare amateur players whose swing is better suited for wood. A shortstop in high school, Mattair doesn't have the range or raw speed to play the position on an everyday basis, but he has all the actions to slide over to third and excel there. His soft hands and arm strength are well-suited for the hot corner. Third base is a well-stocked position at the high school level in this year's draft, but only California 's Josh Vitters may have as high a ceiling as Mattair, who has remarkably good athletic ability for a player his size.

2007-06-06 18:25:55
67.   bhsportsguy
64 Looks like a lot of third, fourth, and beyond information. Not saying it doesn't have any merit because unless you are the guy making the picks, no one knows what anyone is doing after Price is taken at No. 1.
2007-06-06 18:26:40
68.   scareduck
61 - hahahaha:

"Boras counters that Coonelly's list includes six players who made the majors and omits several from those years who have succeeded, such as Prince Fielder, Jeff Weaver, Gerald Laird and Brad Wilkerson."

Jeff Weaver? Brad "Ouch!" Wilkerson?

2007-06-06 18:26:44
69.   T Money
This is probably a totally rookie question, but isn't it kind of strange that the Mets are making two trips to Dodger Stadium this season? In recent years, haven't the Dodgers only seen non NL West teams twice, once at home and once on the road? Or am I totally imagining this?
2007-06-06 18:27:13
70.   scareduck
And I will be there, wife in tow.
2007-06-06 18:29:00
71.   Hallux Valgus
68 The inclusion of Gerald Laird would indicate that there is quite the sliding scale for "succeeded."
2007-06-06 18:29:25
72.   scareduck
61 - "What's more, Boras points to an impressively long list of players whom he has represented and who received large bonuses and proved their value, including A-Rod, Jason Varitek, Kevin Brown, Alex Fernandez, Charles Johnson, Kurt Stillwell, Tim Belcher, Darren Dreifort, Abbott and Avery."

Darren Dreifort?

2007-06-06 18:34:51
73.   El Lay Dave
61 Boras points to an impressively long list of players whom he has represented and who received large bonuses and proved their value, including A-Rod, Jason Varitek, Kevin Brown, Alex Fernandez, Charles Johnson, Kurt Stillwell, Tim Belcher, Darren Dreifort, [Jim] Abbott and [Steve] Avery

Dreifort of the career 95 ERA+.
Kurt Stillwell!? His biggest value was getting traded so the Reds could enjoy Danny Jackson's career year.

2007-06-06 18:35:58
74.   D4P
Darren Dreifort?

Not just Darren Dreifort: Darren Dreifort in gloss

2007-06-06 18:36:10
75.   scareduck
72 - see, Jon, this is why I have a problem with the "Scott Boras is just doing his job" counterargument to "Scott Boras is the devil" assertion. Boras is a purveyor of damaged goods who gets teams to sign on the dotted line to overpay for the talent equivalent of Hyperion outflow. Is not the character of the used car salesman everywhere castigated? Do we not sneer at e-mail whose opening lines read, "Dear Friend, I am the son of the former Gambian oil minister ..."?
2007-06-06 18:36:44
76.   El Lay Dave
Also from the article linked in 61:

2007 Top prospects represented by Boras:

Jake Arrieta, RHP, Texas Christian U.
Julio Borbon, OF, Tennessee
Andrew Brackman, RHP, NC State
Kantrail Davis, OF, Theodroe (Ala.) HS
Josh Fields, RHP, Georgia
Matt Harvey, RHP, Fitch HS (Groton, Conn.)
Matt LaPorta, 1B, Florida
Mike Moustakas, 1b-3b, Chatsworth (Calif.) HS
Matt Wieters, C, Georgia Tech
Rick Porcello, RHP, Seton Hall (N.J.) Prep

2007-06-06 18:39:22
77.   trainwreck
This has been one crazy period of hockey.
2007-06-06 18:41:18
78.   Curtis Lowe
77 - Word.
2007-06-06 18:41:58
79.   MC Safety
hey guys new poster here. been lurking for some time. i love the simpsons referances i have seen here quite frequently so i thought i would post. for the draft guys here, I dont think its too far out of the question for porcello to slip to us, but do you think we will sign him for that ticket? he would compliment kershaw nicely should they mature about the same time.
2007-06-06 18:42:00
80.   D4P
I've said before that I'm not impressed by Boras. Anyone with "hand" can hold out until they get what they want, whether it be a big contract or no timelines for leaving a country.
2007-06-06 18:42:59
81.   Hallux Valgus
75 I don't see that as an either/ or proposition. I agree that Boras is the Devil. I also agree that Bras is just doing his job. His job title is "agent" which is inherently devilicious.

76 Within a decade, Boras will do the first round of the draft himself and just send out an email telling everyone who they get and how much it'll cost.

2007-06-06 18:50:27
82.   Jon Weisman
75 - I don't buy the analogy. GMs have every opportunity to check under the hood.
2007-06-06 18:51:19
83.   Sam DC
Bob -- realize this is outside your lane a bit but Adam LaRoche called out in the sixth at RFK for batter's interference.
2007-06-06 18:51:56
84.   regfairfield
79 I have to think that the Dodgers would be hesitant to sign Porcello after the Hochevar incident, but I'd be really happy if they got him.
2007-06-06 18:54:55
85.   El Lay Dave
I don't begrudge Boras his successes, but neither do I object to the teams that do not wish to negotiate with him - it's a lot of tedious work to research and refute each and every one of his overstated claims for his players.

81 A Boras player is (or should be) always about getting top dollar, cash only. I think there will always be players that have other considerations and Boras wouldn't be their guy. (Agents, satanic or not, are a necessary evil - if I were a player, I wouldn't try to negotiate with the teams' professionals.)

79 I imagine the Dodgers could be in the "we don't wish to negotiate with Boras camp."

2007-06-06 18:55:13
86.   Sam DC
Meanwhile, Jim Bowden would like to offer you a rejuvenated Dmitri Young, top 10 in the league in BA and OBP, and top 25 in OPS. And he's a character guy as shown by how he's come through all his, er, difficulties and is now hitting well and being nice to people.

In exchange for Matt Kemp, he'll even throw in Ray King. He's a lefty!

2007-06-06 18:57:24
87.   JoeyP
Tell me again why were all excited about the draft?

I agree. I've never been interested in the baseball draft, because its such a crap shoot. Plus, the results wont be known completely for 6-7 years. The draft would be a whole lot more interesting if teams were allowed to trade their picks for money/morepicks/minor leaguers/or major leaguers.

Canuck--from your last thread---As for Billingsley being a prima donna--all that matters is he gets outs. I'd rather have a team full of Roger Clemens, than say Jose Lima. And Lima, happy go lucky Jose Lima, has acted much more prima donna-ish on the mound than anything that Billingsley has done. Commenting on character is so subjective, and so non-results oriented in baseball, that it should be rendered meaningless IMO. If you cant quantify it, dont consider it. Because if you consider something that isnt quantifiable, mistakes can be easily made IMO.

2007-06-06 18:58:20
88.   El Lay Dave
86 Please redirect your inquiries to Brian Cashman, who is in dire need of an upgrade at 1B and is without a prospect for that position. The Dodgers already have a D. Young (in AAA) that they don't know what to do with.
2007-06-06 18:59:27
89.   Sam in SC
LA @ SD is after KC @ Cleveland tonight. they are in the middle of the ninth with the indians up 4-2.

it's always a bit of a gamble when the dodgers follow an AL game . . .

2007-06-06 19:01:03
90.   DXMachina
76 Rick Porcello, RHP, Seton Hall (N.J.) Prep

Hey, that's where I went to high school.

2007-06-06 19:03:39
91.   El Lay Dave
Tony Jackson's blog:
Saito threw on the side, and it went well....
Grady met with Juan Pierre today...
As for Nomar's lack of power, Grady remains unconcerned....

I don't want to repost the entire entry here, but Tony's touches topics of recent interest and debate, with brevity.

2007-06-06 19:03:42
92.   Sam DC
88: Yeay Nats' blogs have buzzin for that since (actually before, but more so since) Mintkvczzxczvvyzzxk went down.

Like this:

2007-06-06 19:05:27
93.   Lexinthedena
88 Who do the Yanks have that the Dodgers have a genuine shot at?....the only player I can think of is Jonny Damon....then maybe Ned could admit his mistake and ship Juan to Texas for a sterling belt buckle....
2007-06-06 19:05:56
94.   Sam DC
Sorry - "Yeah" not "Yeay"
2007-06-06 19:09:17
95.   scareduck
82 - so do purchasers of used cars. We have laws against rolling back the odometer on the books anyway.
2007-06-06 19:10:41
96.   scareduck
87 - I agree. I've never been interested in the baseball draft, because its such a crap shoot.

Weaver to the Angels was worth it, though I do confess to some nail-biting at times.

2007-06-06 19:11:34
97.   StolenMonkey86

glossy pages = sawdust?

2007-06-06 19:12:15
98.   old dodger fan
6 pitch AB for Pierre. Progress!
2007-06-06 19:13:16
99.   Hallux Valgus
95 The analogy breaks down, however, when you consider the consumer. A purchaser of used cars is anyone in need of a car, who may or may not have any insight as to what a good engine or frame looks like. A GM or scouting director has been placed in the position to make such a purchase solely based his perceived knowledge of the product.
2007-06-06 19:14:17
100.   Sam in SC
98. I wouldn't know. KC@Cle is just now ending . . .
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2007-06-06 19:14:44
101.   Hallux Valgus
I still love Jose Cruz's stirrups.
2007-06-06 19:14:58
102.   diogenes
is he missing by a lot?
2007-06-06 19:15:32
103.   old dodger fan
We went down 1-2-3 in the first. Wolf then walks his first hitter on 4 pitches.
2007-06-06 19:15:47
104.   Sam DC
95 Are you saying that you believe Scott Boras conceals medical information or otherwise deceives teams he's negotiating with?
2007-06-06 19:16:46
105.   Sam DC
Nationals win on a bases loaded wild pitch from Salomon Torres in the bottom of the ninth.
2007-06-06 19:18:43
106.   Sam in SC
105 - not salomon's week, is it?
2007-06-06 19:23:09
107.   Bluebleeder87
knowing Randy Wolfs first inning woes this was a pretty good 1st inning for him.
2007-06-06 19:23:16
108.   overkill94
At least Bad Wolf only showed up for the first couple of batters - let's hope that it can hold up for the rest of the game
2007-06-06 19:23:36
109.   old dodger fan
23 pitch 1st inning for Wolf but despite 2 BB's he gets out of it.
2007-06-06 19:23:56
110.   Sam in SC
did furcal yell something at one of the fans after he caught that foul pop up?
2007-06-06 19:24:36
111.   Hallux Valgus
grumble... here's the dilemma- watch the game or go see Hot Fuzz for free. Is the movie worth it? Anyone?
2007-06-06 19:24:40
112.   Inside Baseball
Ha ha that was funny. I think the fan in the stands yelled, "Ha!" at Furcal while he made the catch and Furcal yelled "Ha!" back and smiled.
2007-06-06 19:25:56
113.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Hot Fuzz is great... but you can see that any other time.
2007-06-06 19:27:30
114.   overkill94
111 I hear it's great and if it's free then that makes it even better. I don't see today's game being all that exciting except for the last few innings when it becomes a battle of the bullpens.
2007-06-06 19:28:54
115.   Gen3Blue
I wish I was going to be near LA to get to a Dodger thoughts get together Maybe some year soon.

What is so discouraging is knowing Maddox is not going to screw around and throw a bunch of pitches in his half of an inning. Thats gauranteed. Why is it not worth the same money as Tomko or Henderfoot?

2007-06-06 19:29:28
116.   JoeyP
I have a feeling that Maddux will be a forgotten Dodger, as in people will forget he actually pitched for the team.
2007-06-06 19:29:31
117.   Hallux Valgus
113, 114- sold. I'll catch y'all on the flip side. Go Dodgers!
2007-06-06 19:29:41
118.   Bluebleeder87
Russell Martin has the plate discipline & batting style to have success against Maddux, that at bat wasn't a good example but i really feel Russell can have success against Maddux.
2007-06-06 19:30:51
119.   unassisted
I am calling it, we are not gonna score a run this series.
2007-06-06 19:32:23
120.   Gen3Blue
Is Nomar hurt?
2007-06-06 19:32:35
121.   overkill94
Since there was no place to leave comments for the ticket purchase, I'm the one who payed as ndurazo at I can't wait!
2007-06-06 19:32:49
122.   El Lay Dave
So, Nomar has only 18 runs scored, which projects to 48 (!) for the season. I realize runs scored is partially dependent on the performance of the hitters that follow, but isn't 48 runs awfully low for the #3 hitter?
2007-06-06 19:34:11
123.   JoeyP
Padres are waiting back on Wolf's slow curve.
2007-06-06 19:34:59
124.   Curtis Lowe
123 - Slurve. He should be throwing his 12-6.
2007-06-06 19:35:14
125.   MC Safety
84,85 I would hope Ned gets over his spat with Boras. I would love to have that arm in our system. Hiram Bocachica huh, that stinks.
2007-06-06 19:35:57
126.   overkill94
122 Yes, especially since it has been Kent, Gonzo, and Martin hitting behind him. It shows that he hits mostly singles, a lot of which are with 2 out.
2007-06-06 19:35:58
127.   Curtis Lowe
2007-06-06 19:36:49
128.   Vishal
why is wolf ONLY throwing breaking balls?
2007-06-06 19:38:02
129.   Curtis Lowe
And the Ducks win!!!! to bad I have to drive north on the 57 in about 20 minutes.
2007-06-06 19:38:55
130.   overkill94
So the Ducks pulled it off huh? Chalk another championship up for the southland!
2007-06-06 19:39:30
131.   scareduck
104 - I'm saying he negotiates in bad faith.
2007-06-06 19:40:20
132.   scareduck
104 - to clarify, when you consider Jeff Weaver and Darren Dreifort successes, there's something profoundly wrong with your sense of "success".
2007-06-06 19:40:22
133.   Gen3Blue
Not good. Wolf doesn't want to throw his fastball, probably for a good reason. Three curves in a row begins to get mighty hittable. And of course Maddox is not going to throw more than 8 pitches an inning unless he is done( inning 6 or so)
2007-06-06 19:41:22
134.   JoeyP
27 pitches in 3ip for Maddux.
2007-06-06 19:41:53
135.   old dodger fan
Maddux- 3 innings 27 pitches.
2007-06-06 19:42:26
136.   Gen3Blue
Wolf's fastball has reached Shnidt territory--- about 82--, I'm afraid these old guys are going to need about a month rehab between starts.
2007-06-06 19:43:33
137.   El Lay Dave
126 Yes, and that he has a low OBP.
2007-06-06 19:45:31
138.   overkill94
136 Those are either change-ups or cutters, he's still hitting 89-91 with his fastball
2007-06-06 19:47:04
139.   El Lay Dave
Time to hit the 405 and subject myself to the L.A. radio call....
2007-06-06 19:48:03
140.   kadycee
The strains of the anthem disappeared amongst the high rises...I love Vin.
2007-06-06 19:48:54
141.   overkill94
This ump really does have a tight zone
2007-06-06 19:51:12
142.   scareduck
130 - you mean, Los Angeles, right?
2007-06-06 19:51:44
143.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Bocachica is coming up grande.
2007-06-06 19:51:59
144.   JoeyP
2007-06-06 19:52:29
145.   Bluebleeder87
Randy Wolf doesn't have it today. 5-0 Pads.
2007-06-06 19:52:31
146.   overkill94
Mark Hendrickson to the white courtesy phone please...
2007-06-06 19:52:37
147.   scareduck
Bocachica gets his second double.

I may have to shut down for a while to calculate the greater meaning of this.

2007-06-06 19:52:37
148.   Gen3Blue
138 I think you are right, and B Anylists or Hardball times had a great article on Wolfs pitches from gameday cameras. But he has for some reason seemed reluctant to throw the fastball tonight. But the worst thing tonight is watching Maddox throw 8 pitches an inning.
2007-06-06 19:52:40
149.   trainwreck
Hiram Bocachica is killing us. Hiram Bocachica!!!!
2007-06-06 19:52:42
150.   Sam in SC
well, it isn't an agonizing 0-0 game tonight, at least.
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2007-06-06 19:53:00
151.   JoeyP
Well, I doubt the Dodgers get 6 runs tonight, so this one's probably over.
2007-06-06 19:53:02
152.   overkill94
142 Well, Anaheim's not even in LA county, so it's hard to just say Los Angeles
2007-06-06 19:53:30
153.   Vishal
padres fans sure love that "beat LA" chant when they've got a safe lead.
2007-06-06 19:53:54
154.   Sam in SC
ah, tomko warms up in the bullpen. and I am oddly relieved.
2007-06-06 19:54:03
155.   unassisted
on the bright side we're only facing peavy tomorrow. 3 games back here we come
2007-06-06 19:54:09
156.   Vishal
[152] but los angeles of anaheim is right across the freeway...
2007-06-06 19:54:10
157.   Bluebleeder87
Maddux is top heavy.
2007-06-06 19:54:42
158.   kadycee
Why did we trade Maddux?
2007-06-06 19:55:05
159.   scareduck
156 - you got it.
2007-06-06 19:55:35
160.   diogenes
with two out, runners on 2nd and 3rd, why pitch to Blum? fair enough first time, but once he's got you once...
2007-06-06 19:55:51
161.   scareduck
155 - You are on the way to destruction.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
2007-06-06 19:56:10
162.   still bevens
158 We didn't. We signed Wolf for one year at $8mm with a team option instead of Maddux for $10mm and a player option.

That sound correct??

2007-06-06 19:56:33
163.   Sam in SC
158. we didn't. he was a FA, and we just didn't make much of a play for him.

let's see how he does in the second half before we call that a mistake.

2007-06-06 19:57:03
164.   Bluebleeder87

Boros, & i've heard he takes him self out of the game. He's an awesome pitcher though.

2007-06-06 19:57:30
165.   JoeyP
Maddux doesnt make 10mm a year does he?
2007-06-06 19:57:57
166.   Vishal
that's right juan.. bunting will help a lot when you're team is down by 5.
2007-06-06 19:58:21
167.   Vishal
grrrr. YOUR. i hate when other people do that.
2007-06-06 19:59:40
168.   kadycee
163. I didn't think it was a mistake initially...but isn't this the second time the Dodgers have faced him -- and lost (though this one's not over yet, of course).
2007-06-06 20:00:13
169.   capdodger
My favorite quote from the post-game Ducks interview was from Chris Pronger:

NBC Guy: "It looked like you were injured in the first period. What was that?"

Pronger: "Oh, well... I seperated my shoulder and it kept popping out. But there was no way I was going to let that keep me out of this game."

Then he picked up and and hugged a child.

2007-06-06 20:00:51
170.   still bevens
God we have no interest in making Maddux work. Granted the Padres bullpen is nails, but we look absolutely feeble.
2007-06-06 20:00:56
171.   JoeyP
Yeah, Maddux does make 10mils a year according to

He's in his 22nd major league season.

2007-06-06 20:01:23
172.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
(though this one's not over yet, of course).

I think it wouldnt be much to go out on a limb and say it is

2007-06-06 20:01:29
173.   Bluebleeder87
from what i remember Maddux doesn't have good playoff #"s also.
2007-06-06 20:02:26
174.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
the problem is of course getting Maddux out of the game doesnt make it any easier on the Dodgers
2007-06-06 20:03:43
175.   scareduck
If the Padres could get a hitter or two, they would instantly be the best team in baseball.
2007-06-06 20:04:29
176.   kadycee
172. It's only the 4th inning. Not impossible. The Dodgers do seem to have an inferiority complex when it comes to the Padres (though of course last September 18th it was overcome--or I thought it was anyway).
2007-06-06 20:04:33
177.   Sam DC
Well, this is my last on Boras as I'm not sure what exactly what we're talking about now and I know it's getting repetitive.

If the issue is that he blew his own horn in an interview or claimed to a journalist that some deals were "successes" when it can be argued they weren't, that sure doesn't seem like much of a sin to me. I don't know much about the deals listed in that quote (I don't see Weaver listed there and I know some folks feel he left a lot of money on the table), but even if there's room to argue, seems a lot like garden variety bragging. (Not a positive thing, but certainly not a rare or uniquely offensive one.)

But if what you mean when you say Boras negotiates in bad faith is that he oversells his players to teams he's dealing with, than it just seems to me that the teams really are in a position to make their own judgments. What is an agent supposed to do but make the best possible case for his players? Certainly, if he lied or hid information that's one thing, but if he's just spinning, is he really doing something other than what every other party to these negotiations is doing? Aren't the teams spinning just as much when they claim they're building a contender, committed to making a real run at the World Series, etc?

2007-06-06 20:05:33
178.   kadycee
169. If only baseball players were that tough...
2007-06-06 20:06:16
179.   kadycee
175. Same could be said of the Dodgers
2007-06-06 20:07:32
180.   scareduck
177 - if he lied or hid information that's one thing

Which he does. Constantly. Why, then, is it even remotely controversial to pronounce him a liar?

2007-06-06 20:08:16
181.   scareduck
179 - the Padres have a better pitching staff (best staff ERA in the majors).
2007-06-06 20:08:23
182.   Bluebleeder87
Wolfy really made a bad pitch to Bocachica having him 0 & 2 & throwing that slow curve, you'd think he'd throw a waste pitch or at least let the batter swing at a bad pitch, instead he threw the curve ball right down the middle & Bocachica blistered it to left field.
2007-06-06 20:08:54
183.   scareduck
176 - that was only one game, though.
2007-06-06 20:09:09
184.   Sam in SC
I wonder if that play will be the dodger highlight tonight?
2007-06-06 20:10:23
185.   StolenMonkey86
look out, two hits in the same inning!
2007-06-06 20:10:48
186.   kadycee
Thank god for Kouzmanoff. he loves our team.
2007-06-06 20:11:40
187.   Sam in SC
2007-06-06 20:12:22
188.   kadycee
184. lol (sadly)
2007-06-06 20:13:58
189.   StolenMonkey86
from gameday, it appears Ethier is not successful with the Francoeur method of hitting
2007-06-06 20:14:04
190.   Bluebleeder87
the run counts though right??
2007-06-06 20:14:07
191.   overkill94
Let me guess, another case of windmill Donnelly?
2007-06-06 20:14:20
192.   overkill94
190 Apparently not
2007-06-06 20:14:34
193.   JoeyP
Abreu made a big rookie mistake there.
Made an out before Gonzo scored.
2007-06-06 20:15:07
194.   Bluebleeder87

on his last at bat he blistered it but right at the 3rd baseman.

2007-06-06 20:15:17
195.   Sam in SC
if I were pushed to predict what could possibly go wrong next, I don't think having a run taken off the board because the third out was recorded first would have even been in the top 20.

but there you go, and there we are.

2007-06-06 20:15:41
196.   kadycee
I don't like Abreu right now.
2007-06-06 20:16:22
197.   Sam in SC
goofy slide. he seemed to draw his foot AWAY from the bag as he slid in. or perhaps over the bag.
2007-06-06 20:16:30
198.   Bluebleeder87
*Abreu made a big rookie mistake there.
Made an out before Gonzo scored.*

at 3rd base with 2 outs!

2007-06-06 20:18:50
199.   Bluebleeder87
i'm getting flashbacks of when i did that when i was 16 & my coach made me run 2 times around the WHOLE PARK!.
2007-06-06 20:20:15
200.   Sam in SC
martin has a cannon. good heavens.
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2007-06-06 20:20:40
201.   Bluebleeder87
Sit down Cameron, you don't run on Martin.
2007-06-06 20:21:16
202.   Sam in SC
shaddup, gwynn. the play at third was as close as the run being taken off the board.
2007-06-06 20:22:21
203.   Bluebleeder87
This game could very easily be 2-1
2007-06-06 20:22:39
204.   kadycee
Go Russ
2007-06-06 20:23:19
205.   JoeyP
I'm wondering how many ABs Abreu can go into his MLB career before taking his first walk.

He's at 44 right now.

2007-06-06 20:26:17
206.   kadycee
Go Easy Company, 506 PIR! (a little shout out for D-Day)
2007-06-06 20:28:08
207.   scareduck
Jon, you have your dough.
2007-06-06 20:28:12
208.   Sam in SC
the dodgers couldn't possibly be making this any easier on maddux.
2007-06-06 20:30:07
209.   scareduck
206 - coincidentally (or not), KUSC is having a military film music program at the moment:

2007-06-06 20:30:50
210.   k0b3
wow i just got back and am in shock to see the score know you have offensive problems (nomar, pierre, gonzo, kent) when you are being outplayed by Bocachica, Blum, and Kouzmanoff

i don't know why people (I know DT people see it) that the media isn't really getting on Nomar for being terrible. Grady has at least discussed Pierre but Nomar seems like he is on the clear because of the occasional RBI single. Like Jon's last article, he is on pace to have one of the worst seasons as a 1st basemen in history of the dodgers. 1st base, 3rd base, CF are all extremely weak positions...

2007-06-06 20:31:21
211.   kadycee
208. totally agree. it's pathetic.
2007-06-06 20:31:22
212.   neuroboy002
Oh it's Tomko now! Let the comeback officially begin! Hey, why is my nose growing?
2007-06-06 20:31:49
213.   Bob Timmermann
On the other hand, I'm getting a free hat because of the Ducks winning the Stanley Cup.

Just think of the long suffering fans of Anaheim! I will need to find a way to get a picture of the Stanley Cup in Anaheim to taunt my friends in Canada.

In many ways, I'm a small man and a petty man. But it's too late to change.

2007-06-06 20:32:32
214.   scareduck
210 - i don't know why people (I know DT people see it) that the media isn't really getting on Nomar for being terrible.

Ned Colletti has a Get Out Of Jail Free card thanks to the fact that He Is Not Google Boy.

2007-06-06 20:32:50
215.   kadycee
NOOOOO!! Why? Why Tomko?
2007-06-06 20:33:06
216.   scareduck
213 - last time I saw you, you were taller than me. Explain.
2007-06-06 20:33:16
217.   kadycee
209. cool
2007-06-06 20:34:01
218.   kadycee
214. Wait - who's Google boy? Lowe?
2007-06-06 20:34:58
219.   trainwreck
2007-06-06 20:35:27
220.   Sam in SC
218 - the artist formerly known as paul depodesta? just a guess.
2007-06-06 20:36:00
221.   MC Safety
scareduck, envisioning SD with a big bat, or ichiro gives me the heeby geeby's. when envisioning us getting a big bat, my mind immediately reverts to he who shall not be named. sigh.
2007-06-06 20:36:08
222.   Bluebleeder87

i think Google Boy is Home Depo but i'm not sure.

2007-06-06 20:36:16
223.   JoeyP
Chris Young is doing for the D-bax what Matt Kemp should be doing for the Dodgers.
2007-06-06 20:38:03
224.   neuroboy002
I hope I'm not sounding too callous for unappreciative of what he did last year, but although Loney is not tearing it up in AAA, I want him to have a shot at Nomar's job immediately. That at-bat was pitiful.
2007-06-06 20:38:34
225.   kadycee
They actually have a giant Padre running around in a costume at Petco. A priest for a mascot? Really?
2007-06-06 20:39:09
226.   Sam in SC
hopefully, kent is shaking out of his slump.
2007-06-06 20:39:15
227.   Bluebleeder87
were theres 1 minus 4
2007-06-06 20:39:36
228.   MC Safety
wow kent crushed that pitch.
2007-06-06 20:39:36
229.   kadycee
219. Oh.
2007-06-06 20:39:51
230.   JoeyP
Kent's 3-3 against Maddux.
2007-06-06 20:40:15
231.   k0b3
the plate discipline and patience for the dodgers have done a pierre and popped out
2007-06-06 20:41:13
232.   kadycee
oh. a home run. hello.
2007-06-06 20:41:19
233.   Bob Timmermann
Skinner: Bart, I'm impressed with what you did in there. You testified
for the Quimby boy even though it was putting your own head in
a noose. On the other hand, you skipped school.
Bart: I guess the two things cancel each other out, huh?
Skinner: [sighs] I'm a small man in some ways, Bart. A small, petty
man. Three months' detention.
Bart: [groans, {walks away}]
Skinner: {Wait a minute, Bart. Make that...four months' detention.}
2007-06-06 20:42:19
234.   Bluebleeder87
Maddux is slowry running out of gas, that's his first walk
2007-06-06 20:42:55
235.   jtrichey
Could somebody DVRing the game go back and look at something. I didn't see anybody mention it at the time, but in the 2nd inning look at Bocachica's 1st double. I could have sworn that Nomar who had been holding a runner, was still standing on 1st as the ball goes by him into right field. The Pads telecast didn't have a good replay, but it seemed like a fieldable ball, and possibly a double play ball, if Nomar had left the bag like the norm.
2007-06-06 20:43:25
236.   JoeyP
Maddux apparently is only good for 70 or so pitches a game.
2007-06-06 20:44:18
237.   Jon Weisman
Elbert post up top. Game thread remains open.
2007-06-06 20:44:19
238.   Bluebleeder87
wow, my spelling is extra bad today my apologies fellow DT'ers. I'll try harder.
2007-06-06 20:45:13
239.   kadycee
Nomar should play the first month and the last month of the season only - an maybe off the bench once in a while. I think he'd prefer it, actually.
2007-06-06 20:46:11
240.   scareduck
222 et al -- yes, Paul DePodesta is "Google Boy", famously named thus by T.J. Simers.
2007-06-06 20:46:20
241.   Bob Timmermann
I am getting a t-shirt instead of a cap from Phil Birnbaum. We both agree that the cap is way too ugly.

Now I'll have to see if they have any OC Registers available in Downtown LA tomorrow.

2007-06-06 20:46:42
242.   trainwreck
Awwwww, that is terrible news on Elbert. Wish him the best. Comeback strong!!
2007-06-06 20:47:18
243.   Bluebleeder87
Elbert has youth at his side, i'm not to concerned, he wasn't gonna make the big club this year or next right?
2007-06-06 20:47:45
244.   scareduck
225 - A priest for a mascot? Really?

Considering the number of years Padres fans have had to hold their heads in their hands and scream, "Jesus Christ!", is it a surprise?

2007-06-06 20:47:56
245.   neuroboy002
I love Greg Maddux. He doesn't play for us, but damn he's impressive and likeable. More so after his "Chicks dig the longball" commercial with Glavine. We've all seen it, but what the hey...

2007-06-06 20:48:16
246.   still bevens
Elbert out and we get to feel the cold embrace of 3rd place. Ohwell. Both Elbert and the blue will live to fight another day.
2007-06-06 20:48:28
247.   trainwreck
If he has wealthy he may have gotten a chance in September and probably would make it on the team some point next year.
2007-06-06 20:48:54
248.   trainwreck
2007-06-06 20:49:42
249.   kadycee
244. LOL - thanks I needed a laugh just now
2007-06-06 20:49:45
250.   scareduck
241 - I can send you one if you like, Bob. E-mail me offline if interested.
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2007-06-06 20:49:46
251.   Bluebleeder87
Nice bunt by Cruz jr. & nice try by Abreu.
2007-06-06 20:51:55
252.   Bluebleeder87

from what i heard his control was really shaky, i really doubt he would have made a sept. call up.

2007-06-06 20:53:27
253.   trainwreck
He did have that problem, but maybe he would have gotten better with it. He strikes out a lot of people, even if he does give up too many walks.
2007-06-06 20:55:35
254.   Bluebleeder87

fair enough & who knows maybe his walks were do to his cranky shoulder.

2007-06-06 20:58:36
255.   LogikReader
Man not again; only a three run game though.

Congrats to the Ducks! and I say that as a Kings fan

* Incidentally, the Dodgers could lose all 19 games in a row to the Padres for all I care if it means they play well the rest of the year. Do any of you toaster fans believe that the games almost always mean more to the Padres?

2007-06-06 20:58:42
256.   MC Safety
best of luck to elbert with the speedy recovery. 233 lol.
2007-06-06 20:59:26
257.   jtrichey
Who jinxed Tony Abreu dangit? Now he has his walk!
2007-06-06 20:59:48
258.   JoeyP
Abreu takes his 1st mlb walk!
2007-06-06 21:01:58
259.   kadycee
255. It's true. Teams love to beat the Dodgers (just like the Yankees). It's rather flattering, I suppose.
2007-06-06 21:03:19
260.   JoeyP
Klumsy Kouzamanoff.
2007-06-06 21:03:35
261.   kadycee
Oh, goody, Pierre's at the plate.
2007-06-06 21:03:46
262.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Seems we are drawing a very fine line of whether to root for several players on this team to continue to tank . . is it a case of one step back two steps forward? . . is there hope anyway?
2007-06-06 21:04:03
263.   k0b3
once again..the dodgers patience has gone down the toilet
2007-06-06 21:04:53
264.   kadycee
Once again, thank you Kouzmanoff.
2007-06-06 21:05:51
265.   Bluebleeder87
2007-06-06 21:06:15
266.   Bob Timmermann
Thanks. I think there should be one around. It's not as if Downtown L.A. is teeming with hockey fans.

I very well could be the only person at the library tomorrow who knows who won the Stanley Cup.

The only wrinkle is that I know the Register won't deliver the paper to the library anymore by carrier. So we stopped carrying it, although we do get microfilm.

But newsracks are supplied from a different source. A fact that I have never been able to successfully explain to people who complain about such things.

Which is a surprisingly large number of people.

In 19 years of being a librarian, I can state, without equivocation, that anybody who asks to read the Long Beach Press-Telegram is an absolute lunatic.

2007-06-06 21:07:01
267.   LogikReader
It's turn back the clock week on Dodgervision... this week: 2003! :)
2007-06-06 21:07:30
268.   k0b3
the dodgers lose!!! thhhhhheeeee dodgersss lose!!

well like i predicted, if we lost the first game, we would get swept and that seems to be coming true :(

my birthday is coming soon...maybe Pierre and Nomar both pull a hammy soon that would be the best present

2007-06-06 21:09:29
269.   LogikReader

Not if Trevor Hoffman can help it ;)

2007-06-06 21:10:44
270.   k0b3
269 - or Hendrickson ;)
2007-06-06 21:11:46
271.   Jon Weisman
268 - Not a big fan of the Yankees win call, so it's really unpleasant to see it translated into a Dodgers lose call.

I think rooting for injuries is in poor taste.

2007-06-06 21:11:57
272.   Bluebleeder87
Hoffman 500, stay tuned for history.
2007-06-06 21:13:11
273.   Marty
Nice tribute to Hoffman that they didn't go to commercial.
2007-06-06 21:13:26
274.   Kilgore Trout
Now we got 'em where we want 'em.
Just need 4 consecutive home runs.
2007-06-06 21:13:43
275.   LogikReader
Saucy Umpires week continues (can't come up with a better name for it). Francona just got booted from the game... man he really let Iasonnga have it. [remember Dan "Kick Gagne Out of the Game for no good reason" Iasogna? (sic)]
2007-06-06 21:13:45
276.   Frip
The optimum camera shot to Hoffman coming out would be the high-long shot. Didn't happen.
2007-06-06 21:14:06
277.   PDH5204
266 I'd really like to read today's edition of the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

That is all, as no way in heck that I'm around for 500.

2007-06-06 21:14:22
278.   JoeyP
Giants are now 8 games behind two teams.
2007-06-06 21:15:05
279.   kadycee
i thought that one was gone - still, a hit off Hoffman. yay.
2007-06-06 21:15:16
280.   Bluebleeder87
i really thought that ball Nomar hit was gonna go out.
2007-06-06 21:15:21
281.   LogikReader
hot damn... if only Petco park wasn't so darn BIG
2007-06-06 21:16:40
282.   kadycee
why does Nomar always have to have conversations with the other team's players?
2007-06-06 21:17:58
283.   Bluebleeder87
you gotta respect Hoffman, a few years ago he could have gone somewhere else for more money but he decided to stay with the Padres.
2007-06-06 21:18:33
284.   Marty
Right now SD is better than us. But it's a long season.
2007-06-06 21:18:42
285.   Bluebleeder87
Poor Martin is gonna be the question to a trivia answer.
2007-06-06 21:19:01
286.   Frip
Vin: "Like swinging at a soap bubble."

Good one.

2007-06-06 21:19:48
287.   kadycee
They get so excited when they beat the Dodgers. How cute.
2007-06-06 21:20:44
288.   Bluebleeder87

i mean an answer to a trivia question.

2007-06-06 21:20:54
289.   Jon Weisman
I'm going to close this thread and open up the Elbert thread for comments.
2007-06-06 21:21:36
290.   Frip
(285) - That's why he struck out.
2007-06-06 21:21:44
291.   Bluebleeder87

it's gonna probably be musical chairs all season long, no biggie

2007-06-06 21:22:25
292.   JoeyP
284--Be interesting if Ned panics and trades the prospects for band-aids, or if he just brings up Kemp.

San Diego may be better, but I think Arizona has the most upside since most of their youngsters really havent played well yet and they have Upton sitting in AA.

2007-06-06 21:52:24
293.   Andrew Shimmin
24- Hey, remember the other day when you gave me a hard time over a typo? Well, way to use a singular adjective to modify a plural noun, there, guy. Every instances? Look, everybody: he made a grammatical error! Let us all delight in his humiliation!

Still catching up, but wanted to make a point of thanking Marty for the pointer on The Hawkins Special. I'm not really about breakfast, but, maybe some morning after staying up all night.

2007-06-06 21:52:28
294.   Xeifrank
12. DodgerSims was 3 for 3 for the night, it's 2nd perfect prediction night in the past 5 days. It's up to 95-65 for the season. And the pre-season sims had 1.Padres, 2T.Dbacks, 2T.Dodgers, 4.Giants, 5.Rockies. Padres should be fairly heavy favorites in tomorrow's game, but watch that be the one game that the Dodgers take in the series. vr, Xei

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