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Dodger Thoughts Day - Don't Forget To Get Your Tickets
2007-06-07 17:30
by Jon Weisman

Dodger Thoughts will celebrate its fifth anniversary July 21, and the celebration will take place at Dodger Stadium while the Dodgers host the New York Mets. And you have the opportunity to pay to be a part of it all!

Each ticket to the game will cost $24.50, including fee for e-mailing the ticket to you. No, we are not sitting in the bleachers for the Saturday afternoon game. Per my request, Dodger Thoughts commenter Bhsportsguy is doing his best to get our group tickets in the shade.

To get a ticket, send me the $24.50 via the Paypal link on the sidebar. I'll then forward the money to Bhsportsguy, who will handle purchase and distribution.

The event depends on having at least 30 people attend, which looked likely based upon the interest that was expressed earlier this year. If for some reason the event gets called off, I will refund your money.

Questions? Comments? The floor is yours.

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Tonight's game (remember, it's just one game):


Retro Gameday

Twenty-five years ago today, Steve Garvey played in his 1000th consecutive game.

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2007-06-07 17:40:53
1.   Eric Enders
Repeating my LATed post:

Looks like we got a steal with Kyle Blair in the 5th round. Signability issues, but we should be able to afford him. Ranked the 9th best player in California by BA:

"9. Kyle Blair, rhp (National rank: 50)
School: Los Gatos (Calif.) HS. Class: Sr.
B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-3. Wt.: 200. Birthdate: 9/27/88.
Scouting Report: Blair was one of California's top high school pitchers last year, leading Los Gatos High to a sectional championship and throwing a perfect game along the way. He has been the state's top prep pitching prospect this season even though his team struggled, and he was getting better as the year progressed. Blair's best pitch is a curveball that gets solid 60 grades from scouts on the 20-80 scale thanks to its depth, mid-70s velocity and tight spin. Blair has solid control of the pitch and of his lively fastball, which was sitting 89-91 mph early in the year but had increased as the draft approached, touching 94-95 and sitting in the low 90s. Blair's athletic, strong build--which helped make him an all-conference water-polo player--makes him a candidate to be a middle-of-the-rotation starter, provided his changeup continues to come along and he continues to progress with his command. His makeup is universally lauded. He's committed to San Diego."

2007-06-07 17:43:45
2.   bhsportsguy
1 Goldstein on BP had him as his 29th overall pick.
2007-06-07 17:45:11
3.   Curtis Lowe
Deja Vu.
2007-06-07 17:45:51
4.   Eric Enders
The Blair pick lessens my fears that McCourt might have ordered Logan & Co. to spend less money on the draft this year. Each of our first four picks were significant overdrafts, but Blair was basically the opposite.
2007-06-07 17:49:04
5.   trainwreck
Dennis Dixon the QB from Oregon was drafted by the Braves.
2007-06-07 17:49:15
6.   bhsportsguy
4 More on that from Kevin Goldstein's running blog.

Kevin Goldstein (5:52:35 PM PST): Here comes the signability guys. The Red Sox finish the day with Will Middlebrooks, a guy I projected to the Twins in the first, and the Dodgers follow that up with righty Kyle Blair, who was in their mix in the first. Blair will likely need something close to $1 million in order to avoid going to college -- he's committed to San Diego.

2007-06-07 17:50:58
7.   Eric Enders
On Blair's scouting video, his fastball was mostly at 86-88, topping out at 91. It looks like he flies open a little bit and doesn't use his stride to his advantage, so maybe there's room for improvement on the velocity. His curveball looks really sweet and he appears to have good command of it.
2007-06-07 18:02:24
8.   bhsportsguy
On signability - Since Logan White took control of the drafts, the Dodgers have signed 33 out of 34 high school players selected in the first 10 rounds of the last 5 drafts.
2007-06-07 18:04:31
9.   D4P
Pierre is going to have a hard time setting the all-time outs record if he's sitting on the bench. I guess Grittle doesn't care about the record.
2007-06-07 18:04:31
10.   Johnny Nucleo
But July 21st is out of order! For me, anyway.

2007-06-07 18:13:07
11.   Eric Enders
8 That's a very good record, but we did let some lower-round guys get away, like Price and Savery.

I'm still ticked off that we let Chase Utley go to UCLA. (Although the current regime bears no blame for that.)

2007-06-07 18:15:14
12.   Bluebleeder87

do you have a link to the video?

2007-06-07 18:17:07
13.   bhsportsguy
11 I think he focuses on signing all the guys in the first 10 rounds.

I believe he said something like it would be interesting to see if teams make runs at high ceiling guys in the early rounds tomorrow and risk losing them to college.

The phones will be busy tonight.

2007-06-07 18:18:08
14.   regfairfield
So we're done for the day?
2007-06-07 18:21:46
15.   bhsportsguy
14 They stopped after the 5th round. In theory they could pick 45 more rounds, there has been some thought that teams will stop in 20's because they took away the draft and follow option but most teams will pick at least 20 more times so tomorrow will be a real busy day.

They start again at 8:30 a.m. PDT.

2007-06-07 18:23:50
16.   regfairfield
15 Pretty much what I was thinking. I think they'll have to rethink their format if they want to stay on TV next year.
2007-06-07 18:24:40
17.   Westernmost in Flavor
If they knew that going in, I don't see how they don't sign him. LaRoche was what, a 23rd rounder? He got his seven figures.
2007-06-07 18:26:46
18.   Eric Enders
8 There are actually two HS players in the first 10 rounds we failed to sign: Cory Van Allen, 3rd round pick in 2003, and Michael Davitt, 9th round in '05. Still, that's not bad at all.

Van Allen ended up going to Baylor and signing with the Nationals for $170K as a fifth rounder in 2006. He's ranked as the 28th-best prospect in Washington's joke of a farm system.

Davitt ended up being drafted in the 29th round by the Angels last year. He signed with them but has not yet played a minor league game.

2007-06-07 18:28:43
19.   Eric Enders
12 Here you go.
2007-06-07 18:28:47
20.   StolenMonkey86
17 - I thought it was like 37th or 39th, but either way. LaRoche's B-R page didn't list the draft round, although it does have a sponsor.

Joe Beimel's page is currently unsponsored, and can be yours for $10.

2007-06-07 18:30:34
21.   Westernmost in Flavor
I didn't watch too much of the draft but I thought it worked fairly well from an entertainment viewpoint. Jim Callis seemed a little out of his element on TV but he provided solid analysis. I thought Keith Law was great. Even the Perfect Game guy (I can't remember his name) gave plenty of insight.

It sure beats Casey Stern and Darryl Hamilton.

2007-06-07 18:31:02
22.   bhsportsguy
18 I stand corrected. thanks.

BTW, I do understand the confusion and concern about this draft but it just bothered me that everyone wanted to create some conspiracy theory and not believe that Logan White and his team were not the ones responsible for this draft.

2007-06-07 18:31:56
23.   StolenMonkey86
Hendrickson, Tomko, Seanez, and Schmidt are also available to be sponsored.
2007-06-07 18:33:07
24.   Eric Enders
21 The Perfect Game guy did, however, make the mistake of saying that David Price went undrafted out of high school. Another annoying thing was the crawl at the bottom of the screen that repeatedly claimed the Dodgers had 4 consecutive Rookies of the Year from 1992-95. Which, I guess, is technically correct, but...
2007-06-07 18:34:14
25.   Westernmost in Flavor
Those unis are awful! Gray with white numbers and black side panels. Ugh!
2007-06-07 18:35:41
26.   Westernmost in Flavor
I noticed that too. But I guess Todd Hollandsworth's name would have required its own crawl section.
2007-06-07 18:38:23
27.   Westernmost in Flavor
Joe DiMaggio had a 55-game hit streak from May 15 to July 16, 1941.
2007-06-07 18:41:24
28.   Westernmost in Flavor
That's incorrect unless you interpret it to mean before the game on July 16, 1941
2007-06-07 18:42:43
29.   Eric Enders
So I believe this year marks the third time the #1 overall pick in the draft has been somebody whom the Dodgers had previously drafted but failed to sign. The other two were Phil Nevin and Luke Hochevar.
2007-06-07 18:44:28
30.   D4P
Apparently, Grittle has determined that having Nomar play 1B and bat 3rd everyday isn't part of the problem.
2007-06-07 18:44:53
31.   scareduck
9 - I guess Grittle doesn't care about the record.

Confound that Grady Little! Doesn't he know we need manly entertainment?

2007-06-07 18:48:53
32.   D4P
manly entertainment

Not that there's anything wrong with that

2007-06-07 18:49:56
33.   Eric Enders
25 Andrew Lambo is wearing the exact same uniform in his scouting video. They must have been teammates on an all-star team or something.
2007-06-07 18:52:37
34.   overkill94
10 I totally forgot about Lebowskifest! Doesn't look like they're making their way to LA this year though. I did, however, just purchase the 2005 version of their shirt with one of my favorite quotes from the movie "I can get you a toe" on the front.
2007-06-07 18:54:39
35.   underdog
Kyle Blair would be a total steal. Give him a million! Whatever it takes. That would be a great pick if we signed him. And, yes, less so if we don't.
2007-06-07 18:56:41
36.   trainwreck
I got a "I don't roll on Shabbos" shirt.
2007-06-07 18:56:55
37.   Bluebleeder87

Thanks Enders, he has a little hitch in his delivery & the uni is god awful. :o)

2007-06-07 18:59:16
38.   Andrew Shimmin
20- Thirty-ninth round, 1171 overall. This I didn't know--he'd been drafted by the Padres the year before, but didn't sign.

2007-06-07 19:03:59
39.   Michael D
While it's not what we want since it's probably just for today, I think Little is sending Colletti a powerful message when he has to bench his big ticket free agent twice because of his extreme suckiness. We're really getting to the point where there is no plausible deniability about Pierre sucking, even Colletti has to be realizing it was a mistake by now.
2007-06-07 19:06:31
40.   Curtis Lowe
39 - If by suck you mean performing terribly below expectations then yes he is the suck.
2007-06-07 19:13:39
41.   JoeyP
Vasgersian must have blocked out 2006.
He thinks Kuo's only making his 2nd mlb start of his career.
2007-06-07 19:13:56
42.   gpellamjr
Apparently, according to Vasgergian, Kuo is making just his 2nd big league start! Let's see what this rook has got!
2007-06-07 19:14:11
43.   Gen3Blue
I stayed up for the third night because I have decided winning a series at this date doesn't really matter: good pitching tells in the long run. But this means both of these teams are goung to be in good shape at the end of the year. But Pierre only has worth as a lead off batter, if anywhere, and0 thats a fact. And this is throwing a Rook (Kou) to the Lions.
2007-06-07 19:14:58
44.   JoeyP
Ball 6.
2007-06-07 19:15:02
45.   Lexinthedena
40- Pierre's suckage is almost having a relative with a substance problem living in your house....
2007-06-07 19:16:11
46.   Gen3Blue
The only positive I see is the arrogance of the announcer's. Sooner or later that is usually paid.
2007-06-07 19:17:06
47.   Bob Timmermann
2007-06-07 19:17:19
48.   Lexinthedena
2007-06-07 19:17:47
49.   JoeyP
Kuo just a little wild to 1st base.
2007-06-07 19:18:14
50.   scareduck
Where are we Kuo-ing? And why are we in this handbasket?
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2007-06-07 19:18:57
51.   scareduck
That was close to a game over scenario.
2007-06-07 19:18:57
52.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Kuo, meet Garo Yepremian. Garo, Kuo.
2007-06-07 19:19:00
53.   gpellamjr
47 How long have you been waiting to break that one out?
2007-06-07 19:19:15
54.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
I really hate games against guys like Peavy bc one or two runs even in the first could be the game . . its no fun
2007-06-07 19:19:50
55.   Bob Timmermann
That was organic.
2007-06-07 19:20:52
56.   Lexinthedena
Abreu will hit his first big league home run off Peavy tonight....
2007-06-07 19:21:14
57.   JoeyP
Kuo got Bard to chase 2 balls out of the zone. Thats a big out.
2007-06-07 19:21:17
58.   Bob Timmermann
Career homer #74 for Omar Vizquel puts the Giants up 2-1 over the D-Backs.
2007-06-07 19:22:24
59.   Lexinthedena
Kuo really has impressive shtuff....
2007-06-07 19:22:44
60.   Bluebleeder87
i just love watching K/Guo strike out batters.
2007-06-07 19:22:53
61.   Curtis Lowe
That was Kuo-Tastic! That was a really nice breaking ball to Cameron. Dirty.
2007-06-07 19:22:56
62.   Bob Timmermann
This should warm the hearts of a couple of people here:



2007-06-07 19:23:46
63.   StolenMonkey86
60 - maybe that's why his name keeps getting spelled with a K in English . . . :)
2007-06-07 19:23:47
64.   scareduck
22 - I still insist there were multiple gunmen.
2007-06-07 19:25:29
65.   Westernmost in Flavor
Did he not extend his hitting streak? Or did it just not happen in the sixth inning?
2007-06-07 19:25:44
66.   scareduck
39 - even Colletti has to be realizing it was a mistake by now.

Not. Possible.

2007-06-07 19:27:51
67.   Lexinthedena
Thats a star right there...
2007-06-07 19:28:16
68.   scareduck
There goes the perfect game.
2007-06-07 19:28:30
69.   Bob Timmermann
Eckstein's at bat in the sixth is described as "flying into a double play, center to first."

It looks like Eckstein flied out to center and Hamilton doubled Miles off of first. It might have been a diving catch and perhaps the wire service guy thought it was a hit.

2007-06-07 19:28:35
70.   Andrew Shimmin
Is there a name for the deeply goofy beard Martin's been sporting this year? Don't get me wrong--he pulls it off. But, well.
2007-06-07 19:31:45
71.   Bluebleeder87

is he in your fantasy league?

2007-06-07 19:32:26
72.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Peavy is really the only guy on the SD staff were getting him out of the game dramatically increases your chances of winning the game . . that being said, hopefully the Dodgers wont be the Dodgers and work counts tonight . .
2007-06-07 19:32:33
73.   scareduck
There goes the Dodgers' baserunner. Instant poll: How many baserunners will the Dodgers have in the remainder of the game?

1) Zero
2) One
3) None, they don't have baserunners in forfeit games

2007-06-07 19:33:45
74.   Westernmost in Flavor
Was Bocachica part of the Carlos Perez trade?
2007-06-07 19:33:58
75.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose

how many more times will Martin bat? ill go with half that . . .

2007-06-07 19:36:32
76.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
Was Bocachica part of the Carlos Perez trade?

Make that All Star Carlos Perez

2007-06-07 19:36:49
77.   Bluebleeder87
it's nice to see a guy with a descent arm play CF for a change.
2007-06-07 19:36:57
78.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Yes, that great trade.

2007-06-07 19:37:27
79.   Andrew Shimmin
74- Yes.
2007-06-07 19:39:18
80.   still bevens
Man that throw from Russ was terrible. However I did thoroughly enjoy Furcal's acting job behind second base. Might have confused Hiram just enough to keep him on the bag.
2007-06-07 19:39:20
81.   Andrew Shimmin
Golden god or not, probably better not to try throwing out the runner if you have to leap to catch the pitch. Martin does have hops, though.
2007-06-07 19:40:57
82.   Bluebleeder87
Jake Peavy reminds me of Dennis Eckersley
2007-06-07 19:42:04
83.   Terry A
69 - Watch for that double play on the sports highlights. Hamilton's throw to first (from CF) was very impressive.
2007-06-07 19:42:12
84.   Lexinthedena
I hope Andre will turn out to be more than a 15hr 70rbi guy....
2007-06-07 19:42:20
85.   JoeyP

I've never seen Peavy drop down and throw side arm.

2007-06-07 19:42:53
86.   Westernmost in Flavor
Essentially the Dodgers turned Bocachica into Jayson Werth.

Jason Frasor

September 18, 2002: Sent by the Detroit Tigers to the Los Angeles Dodgers to complete an earlier deal made on July 25, 2002. The Detroit Tigers sent a player to be named later and Tom Farmer (minors) to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Hiram Bocachica. The Detroit Tigers sent Jason Frasor (September 18, 2002) to the Los Angeles Dodgers to complete the trade.

March 29, 2004: Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers to the Toronto Blue Jays for Jayson Werth.

2007-06-07 19:43:21
87.   StolenMonkey86
bb 4 3.5
2007-06-07 19:44:39
88.   Lexinthedena
85- His mechanics are different, but his stuff is very similar...I see it too...
2007-06-07 19:44:53
89.   Marty
I have to say it's fun to watch Peavy pitch. I haven't seen someone so angry on the mound since maybe Bob Gibson.
2007-06-07 19:44:54
90.   Bluebleeder87
Carlos Perez will for ever remind me of when they had that bon fire in the Dodger pen.
2007-06-07 19:45:26
91.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
this isnt a good audition opertunity for Clark everyday . .
2007-06-07 19:46:12
92.   Westernmost in Flavor
We Want Kemp!
2007-06-07 19:47:10
93.   JoeyP
89--Zambrano gets pretty angry, although that could be taken as just pure craziness.
2007-06-07 19:47:13
94.   Lexinthedena
Remember when they got Perez with the hidden ball trick?....don't remember who it was against....
2007-06-07 19:49:36
95.   Curtis Lowe
2007-06-07 19:49:37
96.   Bluebleeder87
& there you go, we score first!
2007-06-07 19:49:44
97.   scareduck
2007-06-07 19:50:10
98.   Eric Enders
OK, Kuo. There's your run.
2007-06-07 19:51:20
99.   trainwreck
I don't know if Mike Fetters was actually really angry, but he at least looked like he was.
2007-06-07 19:51:21
100.   trainwreck
I don't know if Mike Fetters was actually really angry, but he at least looked like he was.
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2007-06-07 19:52:06
101.   JoeyP
Its a good thing Furcal is hitting leadoff tonight.
2007-06-07 19:52:21
102.   PDH5204
Yes, there's his run, and so one Guo Hongzhi is now set up for that complete game shutout.
2007-06-07 19:52:57
103.   Andrew Shimmin
94- It was J.T. Snow.

2007-06-07 19:53:14
104.   Bluebleeder87

I might be wrong but he doesn't exactly throw over hand.

2007-06-07 19:53:32
105.   Lexinthedena
99, 100- I thought he looked like a French Bulldog....
2007-06-07 19:54:06
106.   Bob Timmermann
Roger Clemens can look pretty angry when he pitches. Especially with the throwing the jagged edge of the bat around and all that.

Kevin Brown always looked angry.

2007-06-07 19:54:48
107.   Lexinthedena
104- The had to be...
2007-06-07 19:55:08
108.   ROC
The Padre broadcast just listed the 16 players that played 3B for the Dodgers since 2005. Now there's an Aflac question for ya.
2007-06-07 19:57:05
109.   Bluebleeder87
my mind keeps on telling me Eckersley threw three quarters when he was with the Indians.
2007-06-07 19:57:40
110.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I think Kuo has much better stuff than Billingsly, am I insane?
2007-06-07 19:57:55
111.   Bob Timmermann

Those guys immediately spring to mind

2007-06-07 19:58:16
112.   Lexinthedena
When Clark had his career year with the Brewers, I remember reading an article saying that he was a gold glove quality center fielder...
2007-06-07 19:58:59
113.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Peavy reminds me of Eck because of the way he steps with his left leg on the mound.
2007-06-07 19:59:00
114.   Westernmost in Flavor
Looking at the box score, why isn't it a CS to get caught by the HBT?

Also, Carlos Perez went 3 for 3 in that game!?

2007-06-07 19:59:13
115.   gpellamjr
Wow. It is nice to see Clark in CF today. He looks pretty good out there. Competent.

I think I'll defend bluebleeder a little. I don't think Peavy drops down all the way, but I've seen him go 3/4 sometimes.

2007-06-07 19:59:22
116.   trainwreck
I still can't remember Edwards. It was like that horrible memory was erased from my brain.
2007-06-07 20:00:13
117.   Bluebleeder87

he's a lefty & throws in the mid-90's

2007-06-07 20:00:17
118.   Who Is Karim Garcia

Antonio Perez, ftw, bob. And Valdez.

2007-06-07 20:00:42
119.   Lexinthedena
Carlos could hit!...he hit a few out in his career....(insert cooler joke here)
2007-06-07 20:00:59
120.   Westernmost in Flavor
2007-06-07 20:01:07
121.   gpellamjr
111 Mueller.
2007-06-07 20:01:36
122.   Bob Timmermann
On a CS, the runner has to be trying to advance a base. On the hidden ball trick, the runner is basically just picked off.
2007-06-07 20:01:47
123.   scareduck
Walk #4.
2007-06-07 20:01:55
124.   Andrew Shimmin
114- Two possible explanations: one, I've got the wrong box score; this is the most likely. Two: since the pitcher never returned, with the ball, to the rubber, the previous play was never officially dead.
2007-06-07 20:01:56
125.   JoeyP
Kuo's a 2TO pitcher tonight.
4ks 4bbs.
2007-06-07 20:02:22
126.   Westernmost in Flavor
2007-06-07 20:03:29
127.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I believe only two pitcher in MLB history have walked ten and struck out ten in a game..

... and I do believe Bobby Witt is one... the other?

2007-06-07 20:03:31
128.   ROC
Anyone to appear in a least 1 game counted, so add Lugo, Valdez & Robles

There's also a current Cub, Devil Ray (AAA) & Oak A on the list. And of course a "Special Consultant to the GM".

2007-06-07 20:03:33
129.   Westernmost in Flavor
2007-06-07 20:04:06
130.   Westernmost in Flavor
AJ Burnett?
2007-06-07 20:04:27
131.   Westernmost in Flavor
AJ Burnett?
2007-06-07 20:04:39
132.   Bob Timmermann
It's the right boxscore. The confusion is from the way Retrosheet enters the play. Their software requires that Perez be listed as being out at second, but the PO is given to Snow.

In Perez's case, he was "out trying to stretch."

2007-06-07 20:04:40
133.   Marty
Kuo walking a tightrope.
2007-06-07 20:05:09
134.   Andrew Shimmin
Sam McDowell.

Six other pitchers have had ten or more of each in one game.

2007-06-07 20:05:28
135.   Andrew Shimmin
127- Sam McDowell.

Six other pitchers have had ten or more of each in one game.

2007-06-07 20:05:37
136.   JoeyP
Cameron's off to the worst start of his career.
.230/.300/.380 on the year.
2007-06-07 20:05:59
137.   StolenMonkey86
136 - well, he is 34
2007-06-07 20:06:17
138.   still bevens
I noticed Kuo was throwing out of the windup. Is it possible he's still not too comfortable with it?
2007-06-07 20:06:22
139.   ROC
128 I'm slow to TiVo back & type...and overlooked Izzy in 111
2007-06-07 20:06:40
140.   Andrew Shimmin
Shoot. Thought I'd stopped it in time.
2007-06-07 20:06:51
141.   Bluebleeder87

i'll be happy if he goes 5 innings & keeps the Pads scoreless.

2007-06-07 20:06:57
142.   StolenMonkey86
by which I mean he's a bit past his prime.

My intent was not to offend those readers age 34 and up

2007-06-07 20:07:25
143.   Bob Timmermann
Eight pitchers have had 10 BBs and 10 Ks in a game since 1957.

Actually seven pitchers, eight occurrences.

2007-06-07 20:07:27
144.   Westernmost in Flavor

Isn't a pick off a CS?

2007-06-07 20:07:33
145.   Bluebleeder87
Cameron can still go get 'em
2007-06-07 20:07:52
146.   StolenMonkey86
first pitch line drive from Nomar, but unfortuately it was right at Cameron
2007-06-07 20:08:30
147.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Bob, you are the man.
2007-06-07 20:10:41
148.   JoeyP
Kuo's at 61 pitches through 3ip.
30 strikes
31 balls.
2007-06-07 20:11:28
149.   Who Is Karim Garcia
If only Kuo could harness the power of the darkside...
2007-06-07 20:11:40
150.   StolenMonkey86
148 - he's certainly effectively wild
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2007-06-07 20:11:57
151.   Bob Timmermann
Spoken like a Monroe High grad...

A pickoff is only a CS if the runner tries to move on to the next base. If the runner is just caught leaning, it's not a CS.

2007-06-07 20:15:17
152.   Westernmost in Flavor

Good to know. :)

2007-06-07 20:16:59
153.   Bluebleeder87
Bocachica is haunting us.
2007-06-07 20:17:14
154.   Westernmost in Flavor
Matt Vasgerjian should never do Tony Soprano again.
2007-06-07 20:17:33
155.   Who Is Karim Garcia
This game is no longer interesting
2007-06-07 20:17:48
156.   StolenMonkey86
and no no-no for Kuo

but we're still winning

2007-06-07 20:18:32
157.   unlazy4sports
Who thinks Pierre would've dove and miss the ball completely?
2007-06-07 20:19:05
158.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Can I wear my Hee Seop Choi Fan Club tshirt on DT night with you guys? I hope I don't get chewed out by you fellas.
2007-06-07 20:19:16
159.   JoeyP
Not a good pitch out by Kuo.
He really is wild.
2007-06-07 20:21:15
160.   Westernmost in Flavor
What do you think was closer to the target, the pitch out or his throwing error?
2007-06-07 20:21:55
161.   overkill94
It really is exciting watching Kuo pitch - sometimes by how amazing his stuff is, sometimes by how rarely he can harness that stuff.
2007-06-07 20:22:19
162.   JoeyP
Kuo got that call.
That was inside.
2007-06-07 20:23:18
163.   Eric Enders
Well, that was lame.
2007-06-07 20:23:28
164.   StolenMonkey86
that wasn't a very deep fly ball for a double . . .
2007-06-07 20:24:42
165.   JoeyP
Gonzo had a long run for it.
Probably bc he wasnt playing Peavy to pull at all.
2007-06-07 20:24:45
166.   Westernmost in Flavor
Gonzalez overran it after it dropped in
2007-06-07 20:25:50
167.   Bluebleeder87

i thought it was a million dollar pitch, but i guess it's a matter of opinion.

2007-06-07 20:26:24
168.   trainwreck
I feel sorry for you if you have to listen to Matt Vasgersian.
2007-06-07 20:27:24
169.   Uncle Miltie
Horrible job by the coaching staff to shift Gonzalez towards center field. Did they think that Peavy was going to hit one in the gap or do they not trust Brady Clark's ability to cover enough ground in center (despite being a better fielder than Pierre)
2007-06-07 20:28:17
170.   Branch Rickey
Got to spend some time around the team the last few days. I can report that there is getting to be real frustration over Pierre. No answers but definitely a firmer grasp of the reality that is our center fielder. I can also report that Jonathon Broxton is really really big.
2007-06-07 20:29:37
171.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Good AB by Ethier nonetheless.
2007-06-07 20:29:57
172.   trainwreck
Now that is a report I like : )
2007-06-07 20:29:57
173.   Marty
158 I'm thinking of wearing my Team Depo shirt.
2007-06-07 20:30:15
174.   JoeyP
167--No opinion involved. The telecast showed the K zone on that pitch and it was pretty far inside.
2007-06-07 20:31:55
175.   Bluebleeder87
Guo has laid down 2 solid bunts, nice Job.
2007-06-07 20:32:44
176.   Lexinthedena
Vasgersian makes Blazing Saddles references...which means he's OK by me...
2007-06-07 20:33:15
177.   Bluebleeder87

are you watching the S.D. feed? cause KCAL ain't showing a "K-Zone"

2007-06-07 20:33:47
178.   JoeyP
Yeah, the SD Feed is the one on
2007-06-07 20:33:58
179.   Greg Brock
Maybe I'll wear my "Achiever" or "I can get you a toe" Lebowski shirt on DT day.

Um, not the toe one. That gets stares from people.

2007-06-07 20:35:14
180.   JoeyP
Kuo's at 80 pitches and is facing the 2-3-4 hitters.
2007-06-07 20:35:54
181.   Bluebleeder87
I can also report that Jonathon Broxton is really really big.

I hope Mini-Me doesn't read this.

2007-06-07 20:37:06
182.   StolenMonkey86
I can also report that Jonathon Broxton is really really big.

The biggest man alive.

2007-06-07 20:37:12
183.   Lexinthedena
179- My baby bro just came up on a "Dude Abides" shirt...

Did you check the midnight screening at the Rialto a few months back?

2007-06-07 20:37:37
184.   Bluebleeder87
Gou just touched 95MPH, to bad it wasn't a strike.
2007-06-07 20:38:24
185.   CanuckDodger
110 -- Kuo better stuff than Billingsley? I don't think so. Billingsley's fastball has been mid-90's this year, he has the plus curve, a nice slider, a nifty two-seamer. What has Kuo's fastball velocity been tonight? Kuo was usually around 91-92 when I saw him last year, and his breaking ball is slurvy.
2007-06-07 20:38:42
186.   trainwreck
Did anyone else get the Lebowski Achiever's Edition DVD? Comes with coasters and a bowling towel.
2007-06-07 20:39:12
187.   Westernmost in Flavor
I can suffer through him because Tony Gwynn is doing the color commentary
2007-06-07 20:39:46
188.   Bob Timmermann
You really thought Peavy would pull a hard thrower like Kuo?
2007-06-07 20:39:52
189.   StolenMonkey86
8 K for Guo
2007-06-07 20:39:59
190.   JoeyP
Good inning Kuo!
2007-06-07 20:40:19
191.   Branch Rickey
185. I think Kuo has been up around 93 tonight. But I agree, Bills has clearly better stuff. Unfortunately, same command.
2007-06-07 20:40:33
192.   bhsportsguy
170 Are you going to any games this weekend?

Here is what Tony Jackson said about today's draft.

"Sorry, I didn't see your requests until after the pow-wow with Logan, so I didn't get to ask him any of that. But I can guarantee you these were his picks. The only time I know of him EVER being told whom to draft was in 2005, when DePo strongly suggested they take Luke Hochevar in the first round ... and we all know how that turned out"

2007-06-07 20:41:04
193.   Greg Brock
183 I would have, if I lived in SoCal at the time.

Alas, I did not. But I'm sure a lot of people went out and achieved. And proud we are of all of them.

2007-06-07 20:41:18
194.   JoeyP
185--According to the SD telecast, Kuo's been throwing 95 tonight.
2007-06-07 20:41:23
195.   Bluebleeder87

regardless it's just nice watching our young studs succeed.

2007-06-07 20:41:54
196.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Oh, Canuck. How I'ved missed you from (much better over here)

Kuo has been clocked at 93 a few times tonight and at 94 at least once. His slurve is nice and he has been effectively wild.

2007-06-07 20:42:58
197.   Bluebleeder87

there gun is a few MPH faster than the KCAL gun i guess. The KCAL gun has him at 91-93.

2007-06-07 20:43:01
198.   overkill94
179 Dammit, I just bought the "toe" shirt
2007-06-07 20:43:02
199.   Andrew Shimmin
191- Really? Billingsley is as wild as Kuo? I guess it's possible, but I can hardly believe it. Maybe last year.
2007-06-07 20:43:14
200.   Bob Timmermann

It could be worse. Some people could be listening to Ted Leitner on the radio.

Why that man is still employed is one of life's enduring mysteries. It almost makes me feel sorry for the people of San Diego.

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2007-06-07 20:44:44
201.   bhsportsguy
200 Can you think of a more annoying duo of Leitner for the Padres and back in the day when Hacksaw Hamilton was doing the Charger games?
2007-06-07 20:45:16
202.   Bluebleeder87
man Peavy must be PO'd at Kent for calling that time out.
2007-06-07 20:45:36
203.   overkill94
185 Kuo's slider has been pretty filthy tonight and his slurve also has a nice break. Right now I'd put Kuo's stuff a tick better than Billingsley's, but Billingsley has had much better command lately. I don't think there has ever been much question about Kuo's stuff, just his health and command.
2007-06-07 20:45:55
204.   JoeyP
Does Jerry Coleman still do games for the Padres? If he does, that would make him one of the oldest announcers in the game, no?
2007-06-07 20:47:56
205.   Lexinthedena

Good piece of Lebowski-ness for you...

The Photo of the Little Lebowski Urban Achievers is taken in front of the Jackie Robinson Community Center in Pasadena, on north fair Oaks....played basketball there as a youngster....

2007-06-07 20:48:07
206.   bhsportsguy
204 Yes, he does.
2007-06-07 20:49:17
207.   Eric Stephen
At the risk of being tarred and feathered on July 21, I recently rented "The Big Lebowski" and, having never seen it, was eagerly anticipating the movie given its cult favorite status.

My review is as follows: thoroughly disappointing, only to be enjoyed/understood if completely stoned (see "Easy Rider")

FYI, I have two nicknames for Juan Pierre:

1) The Big Lebowski
2) Dude

2007-06-07 20:49:21
208.   CanuckDodger
I don't know how this game will turn out. We could very well lose, making it a three-game sweep, and then I predict the Chicken Littles will be running around saying we're doomed this year, or it's time to trade the farm for the veteran messiah who will save us all. But the fact is, our #5 starter is more than holding his own against their #1 starter. If Tomko and Hendrickson stay out of the rotation, I am quite optimistic about how things are going to go over the next 100 plus games. We swept a series against the Pads at Petco early in the season, and if they pay us back here in kind it is not likely to be a big deal in the long run.
2007-06-07 20:49:27
209.   neuroboy002
I am going to be mean and conjure up a Simpson's character in honor of LuGo's warning track power with that pitch from Peavy - "Old Gray man he ain't what he used to be, ain't what he used to be, ain't what he used to be..." Of course, he would have to to have his pants down and doing a shuffle.
2007-06-07 20:49:52
210.   Branch Rickey
199. Can be. He definitely looks better since out last trip to SD. But he definitely finds his groove and then loses it. I guess it's to be expected at his age.

192. Probably not. Just got back from SD after two games, late nights, and early tee times (I know, poor me!).

2007-06-07 20:52:27
211.   regfairfield
209 Old gray mare.
2007-06-07 20:53:55
212.   Bluebleeder87

agreed Canuck.

2007-06-07 20:54:14
213.   neuroboy002
211 Zing. Right you are, right you are.
2007-06-07 20:54:15
214.   Branch Rickey
Rookie! That play could be big.
2007-06-07 20:54:17
215.   Xeifrank
Should've been called strike three, but great play by Abreu on the line drive off of Guo's glove.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 20:54:53
216.   Xeifrank
Nice outing from Guo tonight. He did his job, now it's up to the bullpen and the offense. vr, Xei
2007-06-07 20:54:55
217.   Telemachos
207 I was a bit lukewarm towards "Lebowski" when I first saw it too (on opening day, so admittedly it didn't have the rep it does now). However, not only have I warmed to it on repeat viewings, it's now one of my faves.... absolutely hilarious.
2007-06-07 20:56:37
218.   Xeifrank
Vin is really butchering somebody's name tonight. vr, Xei
2007-06-07 20:57:10
219.   Branch Rickey
Since I've been out, can someone tell me what the word on Saito has been?
2007-06-07 20:58:10
220.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
There is a very fine line between competator and Ah*le . . . that being said, Peavy seems to come across as a bit of a jerk.
2007-06-07 20:58:21
221.   bhsportsguy
219 He's on track to be ready for tomorrow's game.
2007-06-07 20:58:23
222.   Bob Timmermann
Word on the dori is that Saito is cleared for takeoff tomorrow night.
2007-06-07 20:58:35
223.   JoeyP
Most announcers pronounce Kuo with the "K" though.
2007-06-07 20:58:57
224.   The Rabbits Rarely Loose
2007-06-07 20:59:23
225.   Bluebleeder87

from what i've read he'll be back tomorrow.

2007-06-07 21:00:07
226.   Bob Timmermann
Little known fact:
The Padres pitcher pronounces his last name: Peh-AH-vee
2007-06-07 21:00:12
227.   Lexinthedena

You don't need to be stoned to watch it...being from L.A helps, because the ambiance is so dead on....but it takes a few viewings...ask anyone...

BTW, Kou was a monster tonight...

2007-06-07 21:00:23
228.   Branch Rickey
221/222 Thanks.
2007-06-07 21:00:24
229.   bhsportsguy
The big story for this series is 6 IP each for both Schmidt and Kuo giving up only one run. That will get it done and Canuck is right makes the rotation complete for now.
2007-06-07 21:02:41
230.   JoeyP
Was Ethier running on that play?
2007-06-07 21:03:37
231.   StolenMonkey86
From Gurnick:
Saito set for Friday: Closer Takashi Saito, who suffered a sprained left hamstring warming up on Sunday in Pittsburgh, will return to the Dodgers 'pen on Friday when the Dodgers host the Toronto Blue Jays.
2007-06-07 21:03:45
232.   bhsportsguy
230 Yes.
2007-06-07 21:03:56
233.   trainwreck
I think it is much better not stoned.
2007-06-07 21:04:56
234.   Lexinthedena
Some good at bats tonight.....
2007-06-07 21:05:58
235.   Eric Stephen
208,229 I agree; the good news is that Hendrickson & Tomko are out of the rotation. Billingsley is still out of the rotation, but with Schmidt back the rotation is truly deep now, with seemingly the right 6 guys at the top.
2007-06-07 21:06:19
236.   Branch Rickey
Okay, so I know I look on the bright side a lot but here it is... although we could still get swept in this series, as Canuck mentioned, we got a very strong start from our #5 starter. We ALSO got a very strong start from Schmidt. This series hasn't gone well but if at the start we had been offered the knowledge that Kuo and Schmidt are ready to contribue in exchange for a sweep, wouldn't you take it?
Oh, and we could still win this one. Bonus.
2007-06-07 21:06:31
237.   bhsportsguy
Nice AB again by Wilson, was down 1-2 and works a walk.
2007-06-07 21:06:32
238.   StolenMonkey86
yeah, from 0-2 to bb

get on, Furcal!

2007-06-07 21:06:34
239.   Xeifrank
223. Yes, but you would think the hometown announcers would take the time to find out the correct pronounciation. They aren't even close on the Cheeee and the K part. It's a three letter last name.

Nice to see Wilson B work a walk there. I hope Furcal doesn't pop up trying to hit a homerun against Peavy, cuz it's not going to happen.
vr, Xei

2007-06-07 21:07:33
240.   Xeifrank
If Wolf continues to struggle, any chances that Billingsley gets his spot and Wolf goes to the pen, or is Billingsley considered too important in the bullpen at the moment?
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 21:07:48
241.   bhsportsguy
236 Didn't I say that too. :)
2007-06-07 21:08:05
242.   Branch Rickey
229/235 Sorry, I should've typed faster or refreshed more. Glad others see the bright side.
2007-06-07 21:08:07
243.   Bluebleeder87
Peavy is laboring with men at 2nd & 1st & Furcal batting.
2007-06-07 21:08:48
244.   Xeifrank
2 in scoring position now, we need another wild pitch or a single. vr, Xei
2007-06-07 21:08:54
245.   overkill94
The Big Lebowski needs at least three viewings to even start to appreciate it. My first viewing ended up in utter disappointment. Second viewing got a few more laughs, but still the impression that it was overrated. Pretty much every viewing (probably 20 or so by now) since then has resulted in more appreciation.
2007-06-07 21:09:01
246.   JoeyP
Peavy's really upset now.
Maybe he'll lose his cool.
2007-06-07 21:09:38
247.   Bluebleeder87
3-1 Dodgers, woo!!
2007-06-07 21:09:39
248.   overkill94
Woooooo hoo!
2007-06-07 21:09:58
249.   bhsportsguy
240 Probably not unless Wolf gets hurt.

Raffy!!!!!!!!! Glad to see a certain CF not leading off tonight.

2007-06-07 21:10:33
250.   StolenMonkey86
239 - Homer no, double yes.
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2007-06-07 21:10:40
251.   JoeyP

Take that Peavy.
1st base open and the rook is on deck.

Sometimes the macho act doesnt work.

2007-06-07 21:10:44
252.   Eric Stephen
What better way to lengthen Billinsgley than to let him attempt a 3-inning save.
2007-06-07 21:10:57
253.   overkill94
Billingsley for 2 and Broxton in to close it out?
2007-06-07 21:11:30
254.   Branch Rickey
This is so sweet.
2007-06-07 21:11:31
255.   Bob Timmermann
He wouldn't even have to pitch 3 "effective" innings anymore!
2007-06-07 21:11:32
256.   bhsportsguy
You know Tony Abreu is really beginning to grow on me even if every pitch thrown to him is a strike.
2007-06-07 21:11:49
257.   Lexinthedena a power-less Vladdy.....he gets good wood on everything...
2007-06-07 21:12:05
258.   Bluebleeder87
when the series started who would have thought Peavy was gonna leave the game losing 4-1.
2007-06-07 21:12:36
259.   StolenMonkey86
240 - Wolf's last 5 gamescores (50 is the point of do no harm):

I think he'll stick around

NICE ONE by Abreu.

2007-06-07 21:12:36
260.   Uncle Miltie
Pierre is making a huge impact from the bench. If he had been in the lineup and batting first, the game would likely still be tied. Juan's spirit from the bench pumped up the Dodgers enough to get those 3 runs this inning.
2007-06-07 21:12:39
261.   bhsportsguy
256 You all know what I mean. :)
2007-06-07 21:12:52
262.   trainwreck
For me, the first time I saw it I fell in love with it. It just came out so I did not have any expectations.
2007-06-07 21:13:08
263.   FlatbushandAtlantic
This is my first DT post ever. Mitch Jones is not in the Vegas lineup tonight. Anyone know the reason?
2007-06-07 21:13:28
264.   PDH5204
How sweet it is, and in both reality and fantasy, and so you rock Rafi, and you throw Guo, and so in reality 3-1 and in fantasy in three leagues, Kuo leads Peavy...
2007-06-07 21:13:38
265.   bhsportsguy
260 It is going to be very interesting to see the lineup tomorrow.
2007-06-07 21:13:53
266.   Andrew Shimmin
239- There's probably a pronunciation key in the press pack. Any chance you can make peace with the gwei pronunciation? It's probably going to be around for a while. For whatever reason, Kuo doesn't seem to care enough about it to correct anybody.
2007-06-07 21:14:05
267.   StolenMonkey86
263 - I don't have an answer to your question, but welcome. :)
2007-06-07 21:14:18
268.   Marty
So, Lexinthedena, is the dena in your screen name Altadena or Pasadena?
2007-06-07 21:14:26
269.   Eric Stephen
A Pedro Feliz HR ties it at 4 in the 9th in Arizona.
2007-06-07 21:14:28
270.   Lexinthedena

I liked it when I first saw it, but I was like 16 years a lot of it I did not get....

2007-06-07 21:14:35
271.   bhsportsguy
263 Probably just wanted to play LaRoche at 3B and Loney at 1B, that's all.
2007-06-07 21:15:23
272.   Bob Timmermann
Terrmel Sledge? I wonder if Lee Jenkins knows where he went to high school.

You know there's only one good high school baseball program in Southern California according to the New York Times.

2007-06-07 21:16:16
273.   StolenMonkey86
ok, now we can compare their stuff.

In comes Chad.

2007-06-07 21:16:17
274.   JoeyP
If Arizona ends up winning that game, the Giants will be 9 games out of 1st place.
2007-06-07 21:16:18
275.   JoeyP
If Arizona ends up winning that game, the Giants will be 9 games out of 1st place.
2007-06-07 21:17:16
276.   Greg Brock
272 I noticed somebody was irked by that article.
2007-06-07 21:17:29
277.   StolenMonkey86
272 - and according to Jayson Stark nobody's ever heard of Carl Crawford.
2007-06-07 21:18:29
278.   Bob Timmermann
In honor of tonight, I will say I was peaved.
2007-06-07 21:18:35
279.   bhsportsguy
That's was a nasty slider and then a curve (I think).
2007-06-07 21:18:40
280.   Branch Rickey
273. Nasty.
2007-06-07 21:19:36
281.   Lexinthedena
They both have great stuff...very different pitchers...kind of an annoying comparison...
2007-06-07 21:20:10
282.   overkill94
264 Tonight I had both Kuo and Peavy starting in my NL-only league as well as Furcal (booyah), Abreu (not bad), Betemit (it's an OBP league), and Martin. Now Billingsley will hopefully help my ratios and K's and Broxton will get me the save. When the Dodgers win, I win!
2007-06-07 21:20:26
283.   Bob Timmermann
The last time the Dodgers hung an L on Peavy, aka the only time, Jason Romano got into the game for the Dodgers.

Ahh, Jason Romano, just what were your supposed skills?

2007-06-07 21:21:04
284.   Branch Rickey
281. Why is it annoying? I think they are actually very similar in that they are young, have better stuff than most anyone else on the team and they both have command issues.
2007-06-07 21:21:38
285.   bhsportsguy
282 Do you have enough Dodgers on your team?
2007-06-07 21:22:31
286.   FlatbushandAtlantic
267, 271 - Thanks. Marlon Anderson is in there too (0-3)
2007-06-07 21:23:59
287.   Eric Stephen
I'm a little sad things didn't work out for Michael Corleone and Apollonia.
2007-06-07 21:24:04
288.   StolenMonkey86
283 - Romano for his career hit worse than Julio Lugo did for the Dodgers the second half of last year, having a career 38 OPS+.

Romano's worth is measured not in VORP, but VURP.

2007-06-07 21:25:22
289.   Bluebleeder87
Bills does seem to end his delivery by leaning towards 1st base, could that be what Will Carroll means? Besides that he seems to have traditional mechanics.
2007-06-07 21:26:57
290.   Greg Brock
287 Too bad those driving lessons never paid off for her.
2007-06-07 21:26:59
291.   Lexinthedena
284-They are similar in those ways, but are different comparing Brad Penny to Fransisco Liriano...
2007-06-07 21:27:31
292.   regfairfield
283 We traded him for Antonio Perez, that was pretty useful.
2007-06-07 21:28:07
293.   overkill94
Welp, there goes my save
2007-06-07 21:28:28
294.   Eric Stephen
Romano's worth is that he netted the Dodgers Antonio Perez, who turned in a solid 2005 (sort of the Aybar-Abreu mold), which in turn netted the Dodgers Andre Ethier.
2007-06-07 21:28:32
295.   neuroboy002
"Old gray mare," I stand corrected. Again. Center Field? Damn.
2007-06-07 21:28:44
296.   Branch Rickey
291. This is true, they do not occupy the same body.
2007-06-07 21:28:47
297.   PDH5204
And so, one Cla Meredith does, like the rest of us, have feet of clay.
2007-06-07 21:29:47
298.   bhsportsguy
Here comes the Russell Martin needs a day off posts.
2007-06-07 21:30:02
299.   overkill94
285 I also have Hendrickson :)

I have Elbert on my minor league roster as well, but we all know how that one worked out

2007-06-07 21:30:18
300.   Bob Timmermann
I don't find Jason Romano on any major league 40-man roster or a minor league roster.

He could be playing indy ball. He's got that kind of feel to him.

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2007-06-07 21:30:26
301.   StolenMonkey86
295 - CF is 395 ft, but the RC corner is 411 and the LC corner is 402
2007-06-07 21:30:28
302.   Greg Brock
When Billingsley and Guo pitch, we can call them Linguo.

Linguo dead?
Linguo is dead.

2007-06-07 21:31:37
303.   k0b3
wow look at the results when pierre is out of the absolute offensive explosion!!! i'm sad to read however that pierre will be at the top of the order tomorrow :(...shows you how much grittle knows
2007-06-07 21:31:44
304.   PDH5204
282285 I have Kuo against Peavy in three leagues, and in 4 of the 7 leagues I'm in, my starting rotation includes Lowe, Penny, Schmidt, and now Kuo, and I have in the pen, Saito, Broxton and Bills. I otherwise have Furcal and Martin on all 7 teams.
2007-06-07 21:31:48
305.   bhsportsguy
Russell had last Saturday off, I would guess he will have one of the days on the weekend off, maybe Saturday, then comeback for 4 more in a row.
2007-06-07 21:32:12
306.   Bob Timmermann
That was worth the wait.
2007-06-07 21:32:23
307.   Branch Rickey
Has it been discussed here how much more emotional Russ have been lately? Lot's of slamming down bats, yelling, rolling eyes at umps. Don't know if it's a problem or not but it seems to be new.
2007-06-07 21:32:31
308.   Bluebleeder87
if anything we're gonna leave S.D. knowing we beat there best with our 5. HA!
2007-06-07 21:32:45
309.   Lexinthedena
296- LoL....

My point is that I am more comfortable comparing players that are similar in thier attributes....Billingsly and Kuo are different types of pitchers IMO....

2007-06-07 21:32:51
310.   StolenMonkey86
the Jason Romano page is also available for sponsorship.
2007-06-07 21:32:56
311.   Greg Brock
304 We're gonna need a bigger thread.
2007-06-07 21:32:58
312.   Bob Timmermann
I know everyone is getting excited over Jason Phillips' triumphant return to Los Angeles.
2007-06-07 21:33:06
313.   regfairfield
303 Correlation != Causation.
2007-06-07 21:33:10
314.   bhsportsguy
JP's consecutive games appeared streak goes on. Unless he comes up in the 9th, this does not count as a game played.
2007-06-07 21:33:17
315.   Telemachos
If anything, tonight -- once again -- is an example of how you just don't play 'em on paper. After the first inning, I would've sworn we'd be tagged with a loss.
2007-06-07 21:34:34
316.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre has credit for a game played. You just have to play in the field to qualify. It's just pinch running that doesn't extend a streak.
2007-06-07 21:34:36
317.   Eric Stephen
The real tragedy for Sonny at the toll booth was that he was shot after he paid the toll.
2007-06-07 21:34:59
318.   bhsportsguy
307 You were there on Tuesday, it was reported that he was the last one to leave the dugout.
2007-06-07 21:35:30
319.   Lexinthedena
316- What if the pinch runner scores a run?
2007-06-07 21:35:37
320.   bhsportsguy
316 Thank's Bob.
2007-06-07 21:37:19
321.   bhsportsguy
Jeff probably saying you can let them hit the ball too.
2007-06-07 21:38:07
322.   Branch Rickey
315 After the first inning? I gave this one up early in the week! I don't think anyone would have given us much hope tonight. But it is not over yet.
2007-06-07 21:38:19
323.   Icaros
I forget. Does the replaced runner get credit for a run scored or the pinch runner?
2007-06-07 21:38:40
324.   StolenMonkey86
Kouzmanoff hit that one right on the "ie"
2007-06-07 21:39:39
325.   StolenMonkey86
aww, no 3 inning save for Billingsley
2007-06-07 21:39:48
326.   JoeyP
Why the loogy?
Is Billingsley on a pitch count?
2007-06-07 21:39:53
327.   Eric Stephen
The self-fulfilling prophecy of Billingsley never getting to start because he's not "stretched out" continues.
2007-06-07 21:40:51
328.   bhsportsguy
In 2 of Peavey's last 3 starts against the Dodgers, he has given up 4 runs.

We all remember the last time he gave up 4 runs to the Dodgers.

2007-06-07 21:40:56
329.   Marty
Is this over managing by Grittle? Bills seemed to be fine.
2007-06-07 21:41:06
330.   Branch Rickey
318. I was behind our dugout so I couldn't see. He just seems to be awfully worked up. I like that his expectaions for himself are so high but he hasn't been like this up until the last week or so. Hope it doesn't work against him.
2007-06-07 21:41:16
331.   Lexinthedena
The Drunk is not a LOOGY....he can get righties and lefties....
2007-06-07 21:41:25
332.   overkill94
307 He doesn't seem to be squaring the ball up very well lately so I'm sure he's just frustrated that he's not seeing the ball as well as he could. Plus, his expecations of himself might be a little higher after the last road trip.
2007-06-07 21:42:02
333.   bhsportsguy
Bills went out probably to save him for the weekend and Beimel does really well against lefties.
2007-06-07 21:42:27
334.   Marty
Nice play by Abreu. He's taking over third base
2007-06-07 21:42:30
335.   Lexinthedena
2007-06-07 21:42:45
336.   StolenMonkey86
wait, did Billingsley stay in?

I'm confused

2007-06-07 21:43:23
337.   PDH5204
Rock on Bills, rack up those Ks and send that K/9 soaring ever higher [he and Kuo are the consummate 1-2 punch in this regard].

311 Me without my spacing, ooops!

2007-06-07 21:43:29
338.   Gen3Blue
Now that was a nice play by Abrue.
2007-06-07 21:43:52
339.   Branch Rickey
Bills won't be put in the rotation because we only need 5 starters and we appear to have 5 very good ones at the moment.
2007-06-07 21:44:38
340.   Bob Timmermann
Romano's trail goes cold in 2006. He started the season with the Brewers organization, but they let him go and then Tampa Bay gave him another shot. But he only lasted a couple of weeks at Durham and was released when Ben Zobrist was acquired from Houston.

I need to find a PI who specializes in finding guys like Jason Romano. I need a gumshoe wouldn't be afraid to take a slug in the shoulder, but then be right back at it. They'd likely have a girlfriend who could suck the bullet out.

2007-06-07 21:45:23
341.   Eric Stephen
Tonight seemed like the perfect situation to let Chad air it out to end the game.

1) Increases Chad's endurance, perhaps for future starting opportunities
2) Rests the bullpen for a weekend series during which Saito is coming back
3) Allows Chad to climb the Dodger all-time save leaderboard

2007-06-07 21:45:36
342.   JoeyP
Shouldnt the best 5 be put in the rotation though?

Billingsley could be better than Randy Wolf at the very least.

2007-06-07 21:45:53
343.   Bob Timmermann
The run is credited to the guy who steps on home plate.
2007-06-07 21:46:36
344.   Gen3Blue
304 Congrats. My only true misgivings are about Furcal. I think his ankle is the problem, because something is.
2007-06-07 21:47:06
345.   regfairfield
342 Randy Wolf has arguably been our best pitcher up to this point. I don't think you can make a case for using Bills instead.
2007-06-07 21:47:12
346.   Eric Stephen
340 "Somewhere in Hell, someone is sticking it to a good woman."
2007-06-07 21:47:22
347.   Lexinthedena

Does he get credit for a game played if he scores?

2007-06-07 21:47:42
348.   Branch Rickey
342. I don't think everyone would agree with that. Clearly the Dodgers do not.
2007-06-07 21:48:55
349.   bhsportsguy
Vin's favorite D-Back just made an error.
2007-06-07 21:49:35
350.   bhsportsguy
345 Never thought you would type that sentence did you? :)
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2007-06-07 21:50:11
351.   bhsportsguy
And the Giants take the lead.
2007-06-07 21:51:14
352.   Jon Weisman
As I write this, there are 952 comments on the two threads of today. Thanks for holding the fort.

There are not many days that I go from lunch with Damon Lindelof (Lost) to a bomb scare that keeps me from getting back to my desk and stalls me from going to Riverside without actually preventing me from going to Riverside during rush hour(s), only to return home from Riverside in time to see the Dodgers score three seventh-inning runs off Jake Peavy. But this was one of them.

2007-06-07 21:51:24
353.   Bluebleeder87
The Blue Ox/The Bull coming in, hopefully he'll "he'll stay with in his self" this time around.
2007-06-07 21:51:32
354.   Bob Timmermann
You get credit for a game played even if you never actually play in the game. If you are announced as a pinch hitter and then brought back after a pitching change, you still get credit for a game played.

But that doesn't continue a consecutive games streak.

Two different animals.

Or you can get injured while warming up on the mound.

Behold the career of Larry Yount, Robin's older brother:

2007-06-07 21:52:00
355.   regfairfield
350 Wasn't planning on it.
2007-06-07 21:53:19
356.   scareduck
340 - Romano is in indy league ball, just signed today:

2007-06-07 21:53:31
357.   Bluebleeder87


2007-06-07 21:53:56
358.   Icaros

You mean the catcher?


2007-06-07 21:54:05
359.   Lexinthedena
2007-06-07 21:54:15
360.   Eric Enders
Some random snippets from tonight's Ducksnorts conversation...

"Nice to see the home plate umpire decide that the Padres don't deserve to win this game."

"All three of those runs are on the home plate umpire."

"I would strangle Vin Scully right now for his whole, 'Peavy got tired, Buddy shouldn't have left him in so long' shtick. Peavy struck out Betemit on the 2-2 and 3-2 pitches. Anthony, would it be possible to do a blog posting on how badly Jake got hosed tonite?"

2007-06-07 21:54:18
361.   JoeyP
345--Billingsley has a better K/9, better whip, better hr/9 than Randy Wolf does in comparing the two this season.

Thats not to say that Wolf should be the first guy taken out to get Billingsley in. However, I think there's a clear argument to believe Billingsley is better now, and will certainly be better in the future than Randy Wolf.

2007-06-07 21:54:19
362.   scareduck
340 - and BTW, as a married man, I don't think I fit that job description.
2007-06-07 21:55:03
363.   Xeifrank
hmmm, E-4 (should be), E3. Nice start.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 21:55:28
364.   Bluebleeder87
sigh, come on Nomar. spare me the Drame please.
2007-06-07 21:55:51
365.   Branch Rickey
I'm not even thinking about the last game of a series in San Diego last year. Really, not even for a moment.
2007-06-07 21:56:34
366.   Xeifrank
No outs, tying run at the plate. Time to bring Saito in. Oh wait...
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 21:56:47
367.   regfairfield
361 Wolf's thrown two and a half times more innings and doing a tougher job in starting.
2007-06-07 21:56:57
368.   Gen3Blue
340 You will probably never find a PI who can distinguish between so many Jasons from that year, yet alone has a bullet sucking girl friend.
Uh ohh! I need to take a walk!
2007-06-07 21:57:04
369.   MMSMikey
it just cant be easy can it
2007-06-07 21:57:23
370.   PDH5204
344 Thanks.
2007-06-07 21:57:51
371.   capdodger
Broxton is just setting up the triple play.
2007-06-07 21:58:02
372.   Xeifrank
We could use a game ending triple play about now.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 21:58:21
373.   MMSMikey
c'mon john put him away
2007-06-07 21:58:31
374.   Bluebleeder87

I'll say..

2007-06-07 21:58:40
375.   Andrew Shimmin
362- Ball three looked pretty questionable to me. Ball four didn't.
2007-06-07 21:58:54
376.   Eric Stephen
I was just looking up Andy Richter on IMDB, and it mentioned "Andy Richter Controls The Universe" as "2002-2007". I got excited that the show was coming back, but it turns out one of the episodes that never originally aired was shown on HDNet in April this year for the first time.

Alas, no series comeback.

By the way, this 9th inning has been really, really weird.

2007-06-07 21:58:57
377.   scareduck
Nomar is making the case for Loney's callup, bat or no.
2007-06-07 21:58:58
378.   Xeifrank
Gameday must be broke, it keeps saying that Nomar is botching every ball hit to him.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 21:59:00
379.   MMSMikey
c'mon nomar. good god.
2007-06-07 21:59:06
380.   Uncle Miltie
Bench Nomar....
2007-06-07 21:59:12
381.   Bluebleeder87
what is wrong with Nomar??
2007-06-07 21:59:18
382.   Andrew Shimmin
Broxton's going to key Nomar's car when they get back to L.A.
2007-06-07 21:59:33
383.   capdodger
2007-06-07 21:59:37
384.   JoeyP
Thats a case when Broxton's slow girth hurt him. He should have been over there.
2007-06-07 22:00:12
385.   Uncle Miltie
This is embarrassing. I'd rather have Old Maid out there. Kent made an error - it happens. Nomar made 2 mental errors.
2007-06-07 22:00:21
386.   FirstMohican
good lord
2007-06-07 22:00:23
387.   Branch Rickey
384. He was. Nomar chose not to thorw it to him.
2007-06-07 22:00:29
388.   Lexinthedena
Nomar's suckiness has been able to stay somewhat under the radar due to the fact that he hasn't overtly cost us a game...If something bad happens here, Nomar's gonna catch some heat...
2007-06-07 22:00:38
389.   natepurcell
are you kidding?
2007-06-07 22:00:42
390.   scareduck
At least this didn't end in a grand slam.
2007-06-07 22:00:44
391.   MMSMikey
hey thanks, nomar.
2007-06-07 22:00:52
392.   Xeifrank
Nomar spelled backwards is choke.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:01:05
393.   FirstMohican
Wait... how many outs are there?
2007-06-07 22:01:07
394.   Greg Brock
So Nomar can't hit and has become Edward Scissorhands.


2007-06-07 22:01:10
395.   JoeyP
Thats a break.
Game would have been tied.
2007-06-07 22:01:26
396.   Xeifrank
IBB? why not??
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:01:39
397.   thinkblue0
I can't believe I'm seeing this.
2007-06-07 22:01:44
398.   Telemachos
Nomar has broken GameChannel. What the heck's going on?
2007-06-07 22:02:14
399.   Xeifrank
IBB, ok thanks. Thought we were going to blow that one. vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:02:27
400.   bhsportsguy
Broxton has been spotty in his recent appearances.
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2007-06-07 22:02:33
401.   Andrew Shimmin
We're going to need a team wide clinic on pitchouts and IBBs.
2007-06-07 22:02:33
402.   Eric Stephen
What are the chances of scoring one run with bases loaded none out?
2007-06-07 22:02:34
403.   natepurcell
this is payback for 4+1.
2007-06-07 22:02:40
404.   regfairfield
Update, please.
2007-06-07 22:02:40
405.   PDH5204
This is why you don't get cute with Bills/Beimel.
2007-06-07 22:02:42
406.   Uncle Miltie
Nomar has a .667 OPS. That is beyond ultimate sucktitude.
2007-06-07 22:02:56
407.   Lexinthedena
Broxton has the Mitch Williams face right now....not good...
2007-06-07 22:03:07
408.   dzzrtRatt
Dodger pitchers have to work on their pitchouts and IBB.

This is so irritating.

2007-06-07 22:03:29
409.   capdodger
384 What are you talking about? He was standing there and Nomar called him off.
2007-06-07 22:03:41
410.   Eric Stephen
In fairness to Broxton, he's given up a dinker single (to Giles) and a double (to Gonzalez) and 3 balls that should have been outs.
2007-06-07 22:03:41
411.   Xeifrank
afraid to run on Juan's arm?
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:03:44
412.   thinkblue0
welp...tie game. We're about to lose. Goodnight.
2007-06-07 22:03:47
413.   Telemachos
403 I thought 4+1 was payback for the Danys Baez game.
2007-06-07 22:03:49
414.   natepurcell
games over. what a horrible day.
2007-06-07 22:03:54
415.   MMSMikey
why would you throw him a fastball? jesus christ. feed that guy nothing but sliders.
2007-06-07 22:03:59
416.   Xeifrank
Can we bring Guo back in?
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:04:05
417.   Bluebleeder87
i'm sick to my stomach.
2007-06-07 22:04:19
418.   scareduck
Wait. How many ex-Cubs do the Dodgers have? Pierre, Nomar, Gonzo, Ramon Martinez... am I missing someone?
2007-06-07 22:04:25
419.   k0b3
the dodgers lose! thhhheeeeeeee dodgers lose!!!!!

the curse of peavy lives on

2007-06-07 22:04:27
420.   FirstMohican
405 - I don't think you can pin this one on Grady's handling of the pitching staff. I would've left Bills in, but its not that big of a deal.
2007-06-07 22:04:41
421.   Telemachos
Poor Kuo. :(
2007-06-07 22:04:46
422.   Bob Timmermann
I think usury laws apply in this situation.
2007-06-07 22:04:51
423.   Xeifrank
Gotta go for the strikeout now.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:05:23
424.   Lexinthedena
Juan Pierre playing second...LOL
2007-06-07 22:05:26
425.   Uncle Miltie
It's almost impossible to get out of a bases loaded, 0 outs situation. Hopefully this causes Ned to demote Nomar to the bench.
2007-06-07 22:05:29
426.   dzzrtRatt
He's overthrowing.
2007-06-07 22:05:40
427.   Eric Stephen
Broxton channeling Koufax: "let's just go with the heat babe"
2007-06-07 22:05:47
428.   trainwreck
Broxton has to learn to throw a change or curve or something to take it to the next level.
2007-06-07 22:06:34
429.   Xeifrank
squeeze bunt?
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:06:41
430.   capdodger
419 Peavy had nothing to do with this.
2007-06-07 22:06:46
431.   Bob Timmermann
Run expectancy matrix:
2007-06-07 22:06:51
432.   natepurcell
maybe the shady nomar defense will wake up the front office to see how much he is hurting us on offense.
2007-06-07 22:07:41
433.   StolenMonkey86
429 - if that was the plan I'd ph with Maddux
2007-06-07 22:07:41
434.   FirstMohican
Broxton nails 100 on ball 3.
2007-06-07 22:07:58
435.   Lexinthedena
Do the Dodgers lead the Majors in errors?
2007-06-07 22:08:21
436.   Eric Stephen
2007-06-07 22:08:25
437.   StolenMonkey86
2007-06-07 22:08:25
438.   Eric Enders
I want Nomar's head on a plate. And unless James Loney is playing first for us tomorrow, other heads need to roll too.
2007-06-07 22:08:35
439.   FirstMohican
Player of the game for the Pads? Nomar.
2007-06-07 22:08:37
440.   Uncle Miltie
Nomar is Broxton's post game spread tonight.
2007-06-07 22:08:55
441.   MMSMikey
hell of a ballgame, cant blame grady for this one. on buckner errr. nomar.
2007-06-07 22:09:00
442.   PDH5204
420 It is Grady's fault. Why bring Beimel to face 1 batter with a four run lead and absolutely no threat at the time? Afraid of the solo homer with the 4 run lead? And it's big because Beimel could have come in to face Gonzalez.
2007-06-07 22:09:21
443.   scareduck
428 - Broxton has to learn to throw the ball over the plate. Nomar needs to recognize he's not as fast as he used to be.
2007-06-07 22:09:44
444.   Vaudeville Villain
Wow, what an awful inning that was.
2007-06-07 22:09:48
445.   Telemachos
Well, this one hurts. A lot. Single game blah blah blah..... sigh.
2007-06-07 22:09:59
446.   Bluebleeder87
Kent & Nomar walk together in shame.
2007-06-07 22:10:17
447.   trainwreck
Can we put all this blame on Nomar? Broxton did not pitch well from what I can gather.
2007-06-07 22:10:30
448.   Bob Timmermann
Tampa Bay leads the majors in errors followed by Texas, Florida, and the Dodgers.
2007-06-07 22:11:22
449.   regfairfield
For those of us who are still stuck on Gameday, what exactly happened?
2007-06-07 22:11:44
450.   regfairfield
For those of us who are still stuck on Gameday, what exactly happened?
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2007-06-07 22:11:58
451.   bhsportsguy
Well for those of you ready to annoit Broxton the next closer, its obvious that he gets to hypped up and overthrows and goes away from his slider. He also could not put away Giles with two strikes.
2007-06-07 22:12:05
452.   JoeyP
Karma for the 4+1 game.
With Billingsley sailing along, not sure why Grady had to overmanage?
Billingsley should have went the last 3ip tonight.
2007-06-07 22:12:51
453.   capdodger
447 Broxton pitched fine for the first four batters. The pads were hitting weak grounders that the right side of the infield was kicking around. After that he started to throw harder and got hit.
2007-06-07 22:12:55
454.   Greg Brock
Well then. That was...Mildly disappointing.
2007-06-07 22:13:22
455.   scareduck
450 - five runs, keyed by a bases-loaded ground rule double off Adrian Gonzalez's bat, including a Nomar mental error that allowed a routine grounder to reach WITH THE PITCHER ALREADY COVERING THE BAG.
2007-06-07 22:13:31
456.   Branch Rickey
Peferct storm. Brox didn't pitch well, Nomar made bad plays and then there was simple bad luck. Really seemed to have stolen this one from them but they stole it right back.
They're on a roll, we're on an anti-roll. Hopefully the tides shift starting tomorrow.
2007-06-07 22:13:48
457.   capdodger
452 4 +1 was karma for Baez's meltdown. This begins a new round....
2007-06-07 22:13:49
458.   capdodger
452 4 +1 was karma for Baez's meltdown. This begins a new round....
2007-06-07 22:13:53
459.   k0b3
broxton did not pitch well...he seems to pitch terribly in the 9th inning for some reason and his era is now above much for domination

again Nomar is terrible (both on the field and his pathetic .600 ops) and grittle.. what is he thinking?

2007-06-07 22:14:09
460.   Bluebleeder87

blame can be had in all directions, it's just the way it is. but this one really hurt, let's just dust off & look forward like Jon said it's a long season

2007-06-07 22:14:37
461.   JoeyP
Can we put all this blame on Nomar?

No, the Dodgers mojo changed when Juan Pierre came into the game.

2007-06-07 22:14:41
462.   Humma Kavula
I don't even know what to say. I'm not sure what I just saw.
2007-06-07 22:14:48
463.   MC Safety
wow that was a baez-esque performance from broxton.
2007-06-07 22:15:33
464.   Xeifrank
Broxton had to get 6 outs that inning, unfortunately he could only get 4... er one.
vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:15:58
465.   Eric Stephen
449,450 Short version: 9th inning started, I was half paying attention to the game, half to Godfather II...a "hit" to Kent (really an error pulling Nomar of the bag), an erro by Nomar, a single, a chopper to Nomar who decides to run to first instead of tossing to Broxton, scoring one; a ground rule double by Gonzalez scoring two; a single to CF scoring amazingly only one; a strikeout then a 3-2 walk on a pitch 2.4 inches outside ended the game.
2007-06-07 22:16:21
466.   Marty
Broxton pitched well enough to hold a 4 run lead. He is not the story. Kent and Nomar are the story.
2007-06-07 22:16:22
467.   gpellamjr
How am I supposed to grade papers after that?

I'm not even going to tell you how my softball games went today. I'll just say that in one game we didn't score, and I was told to shut up by my shortstop.

I also had to yell at my neighbors for having their music too loud.

Only 59 more papers to grade, then I can go to sleep and put this awful day behind me.

2007-06-07 22:16:39
468.   Vaudeville Villain
Nomar gave the Padres two extra outs, and Kent had a play that should have been made. I have a hard time blaming Broxton for trying to strike everyone out when his defense behind him is terrible.
2007-06-07 22:17:12
469.   Jon Weisman
419 - I asked you not to do that already.
2007-06-07 22:17:15
470.   Lexinthedena
You can't blame little...sorry....this is squarely on the shoulders of Kent and Nomar....well, Broxton didn't need to throw that meatball to Gonzalez either....
2007-06-07 22:17:17
471.   Bluebleeder87
I don't even know what to say. I'm not sure what I just saw.

it's kind like when we first "do it"

2007-06-07 22:17:33
472.   Xeifrank
467. Tell the neighbors to grade the papers. vr, Xei
2007-06-07 22:17:38
473.   Eric Enders
447 "Can we put all this blame on Nomar? Broxton did not pitch well from what I can gather."

Yes, we can put all the blame on Nomar. (That is, unless you want to give a small share to Kent.) Here is a list of what Broxton did wrong:

One hard-hit ball to the gap.
One walk.

2007-06-07 22:18:07
474.   Inside Baseball
The negatives are obvious. But how about the positives? I'd take our current five man rotation over any in baseball. I'd take our bullpen (Bills, Brox, Saito) over any in baseball. I'd take our cathcer over any in baseball (Mauer is brittle). Little showed tonight he's not afraid to sit Pierre. Kemp in in the wings. Nomar will improve at the plate. Loney is in the wings.
2007-06-07 22:18:28
475.   Gen3Blue
Play Loney and Kemp right now and you will have at least an equal team for ~15 million less. By not adding Young , Hu and LaRoche I am only being extremely conservative. However, with just a rotation of Penny, Lowe, Wolfe, Kou and Billingsley, we could probably disguise our incompetence for most of the season.
2007-06-07 22:18:37
476.   capdodger
Broxton should have been out of the inning after Nomar's brainfart.
1) Single to Kent.
2) E-3. Should have been 3-6-1.
3) Mental E-3. Should have been inning over on the 3-1.

After that, Broxton did what he does when it gets tight: Rear back and throw harder. What someone needs to tell him is that his pitches flatten out or something and become easier to hit.

2007-06-07 22:19:19
477.   Marty
I loved the way Broxton pitched. He is the closer of the future. You can't expect to get 6 outs in one inning.
2007-06-07 22:19:39
478.   Eric Stephen
449,450 Short version: 9th inning started, I was half paying attention to the game, half to Godfather II...a "hit" to Kent (really an error pulling Nomar of the bag), an error by Nomar, a single, a chopper to Nomar who decides to run to first instead of tossing to Broxton, scoring one; a ground rule double by Gonzalez scoring two; an intentional walk to Bard, loading the bases; a single to CF scoring amazingly only one; a strikeout then a 3-2 walk on a pitch 2.4 inches outside ended the game.
2007-06-07 22:20:10
479.   capdodger
On another note, I bet the beat writers hate it when this happens.
2007-06-07 22:20:24
480.   CanuckDodger
Of course it's Grady's fault! Broxton, for whatever reason, has been getting hit hard lately after dominating for most of the season. Tonight he is visibly drowning out there, getting ever more frustrated, and Grady leaves him out there to die. If I were Broxton, I'd throttle my manager after that catastrophe and demand a damn trade from Colletti. Just...Damn!
2007-06-07 22:20:27
481.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2007-06-07 22:20:29
482.   natepurcell
so vegas was fun. this game.. not so much!

i was reading through the threads, someone mentioned will carroll thinks billingsley is injury prone? can someone summarize what he said? thanks

2007-06-07 22:20:30
483.   Telemachos
Well, off to read The Baroque Cycle. Perhaps Jack Shaftoe -- King of the Vagabonds, Quicksilver, Ali Zaybak! -- can cheer me up.
2007-06-07 22:20:43
484.   trainwreck
But he gave up a single. Then Nomar commits error so he ruined one out. But then there is a single, another single, and a ground rule double, before he gets another out.
2007-06-07 22:20:58
485.   Vaudeville Villain

Why are people so sure that Nomar will improve at the plate? It's not like he's getting robbed on a lot of balls in play, or hit a lot of deep fly balls that are dying at the track. He's swinging the bat with a Juan Pierre level of weakness, and has been doing so for quite length of time now.

2007-06-07 22:20:58
486.   bhsportsguy
Okay, are we done yet or our people going to rail against the guy who will get the biggest cheers over the weekend until tomorrow's game.
2007-06-07 22:21:25
487.   PDH5204
Sorry, my bad, as I was not watching the game live, and the poor excuse for a substitute had Beimel relieving Billingsley and pitching to one guy in the 8th, and then being replaced by Broxton in the 9th. Still, I don't know why Beimel does not come in to face Gonzalez, especially with the recent report of him specializing in ground balls to the pitcher.

451 I couldn't agree more. As I related, I have Broxton on the fantasy teams and, of late, he's played a large part in blowing the team ERA for the week.

2007-06-07 22:21:30
488.   Gen3Blue
474 Pierre and Nomar should take "wings". I doubt Grady's resolve to bench Pierre will go beyond one game, though I wish you were right.
2007-06-07 22:23:18
489.   capdodger
484 The official scorer can't assume the double play, but I can. That ball was sharply hit and right at Nomar. As 3-6-1 double plays go, that was an easy one.
2007-06-07 22:23:38
490.   natepurcell

and plus we just drafted john smoltz and a loogy to come in for him in th 7th to get that tough lefty bat out!

2007-06-07 22:24:13
491.   Jon Weisman
487 - Beimel did pitch in the eighth.
2007-06-07 22:25:16
492.   Eric Stephen
Bummer for Broxton that the play to Kent was called a single. That should be an error and make all 5 runs unearned.

It is a trivial matter but still.

I would like to point out again that Chad Billingsley should have ended this game. As it stands now, I would guess Bills (38 pitches) and Broxton (28 pitches) are unavailable Friday, not to mention Broxton having to deal with the "not ready for closing" questions.

2007-06-07 22:27:28
493.   gibsonhobbs88
Way to go Dodgers - Way to botch a great effort for 8 innings with the 9th inning from hell!! Way to cap off a bad day at work. We finally get to Peavy and Nomar goes Buckner on us in the 9th. I've seen the Dodgers do this too many times against the Pads. Petco is our new "Temple of Doom" to quote former Dodger Steve Sax who used that term for the Old Murph!! I'm sick to my stomach and need to go to bed!!!
2007-06-07 22:27:48
494.   Eric Stephen
Oh man, I pity the fools in gpellamjr's class, about to get papers back tomorrow with an awful lot of red pen marks!
2007-06-07 22:30:37
495.   PDH5204
491 Thanks, Jon, and I'll have to blame the even poorer substitute box score that has Beimel not pitching. And I'll otherwise have to go back to my initial criticism of Grady. The insanity of the move was probably why I took the erroroneous box score over the t.v. substitute, I mean, the move seemed crazy to me at the time [as being completely unnecessary].
2007-06-07 22:31:13
496.   natepurcell
alright lets talk about something else.

who are some signabilty guys for tomorrow you want the dodgers to draft?

2007-06-07 22:33:43
497.   Eric Stephen
Before this road trip, I made a mental note that anything less than a 6-4 trip was unacceptable.

With tonight's 9th inning, the Dodgers ended the trip 5-5. Unacceptable.

I think Nomar will eventually improve, but he may need an extended "vacation" to spend time with the twins for a few days here.

Grrr...the Padres' postgame show are blaming this one on Broxton, saying closing is a lot different than pitching the 8th. Seems an awfully convenient excuse rather than the actual reason the Dodgers lost.

2007-06-07 22:38:40
498.   Inside Baseball
490 That's what I'm talking about!!

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