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After X number of years sitting down as manager.
"For starting pitchers we have two Dominicans, one Italian, one Mexican and one Japanese. In the bullpen we have a Venezuelan, a Mexican, a guy from the United States and a guy from St. Louis." - Los Angeles Dodger / Hall of Fame Manager Tommy Lasorda (AP Wire, 08/18/1999)
Who was the guy from St. Louis in 1999? Matt Herges was from Illinois. I think he may have been the closest to St. Louis.
Spotting one of the best pitchers in the majors and 8-run lead is not a good way to succeed.
What's that you say?
The Yankees don't have fire sales. They just have fires.
Well, it's just a perpetual fire, so it really doesn't count.
Same reason you can't be hungover if you just stay drunk.
Pierre, CF
Martin, C
Gonzo, LF
Nomar, 3B
Loney, 1B
Kemp, RF
Abreu, 3B
Billingsley, P
I like it.
Pierre: .277, 90 runs, 186 hits, 60 stolen bases. A successful season by traditional standards.
In my view, it seems inevitable that Management would be strategic in allocating such PAs, depending upon whether or not they want the player to return the following year under his option clause.
Marty just purchased the contract of a new front-load clothes washer. He has DFA'd his old one. Marty was quoted as saying, "It just felt like it was the right time. The old washer had given us years of exciting cleansing action, but the kid needs to get some cycles in."
So sweet.
Was the contract also front-loaded...?
You said you were bringing me a personally-prepared gourmet lunch on the 21st, right?
The vegetarians will be in a different section.
Vin Scully, Voice of the Dodgers, speaks to you
>>> As an announcer, he set these rules for himself:
Be a journalist, not a cheerleader. Scully's credibility pivots on the clear distinction he draws between broadcaster and team. Even at critical moments (the ninth inning of Sandy Koufax's 1965 perfect game is a good example), his reportorial rigor trumps his rooting interest. <<<
http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/articles/8269367.html
I wouldn't think Kent would do such a thing
But the left side will be locked down.
True to their name, the Best fans in Baseball seceded from the Union when it became clear baseball was no longer the national pastime.
Ahh, beat you on that one! That's been on the Griddle for a while.
Bob Carpenter suggested it might have something to do with frightened pirates.
Email address is at the box at the lower right: http://tinyurl.com/2t2qzt
Books Don Sutton and Bob Carpenter did not read:
Treasure Island
The Cliffs Notes to Treasure Island
Batting leadoff for the San Diego Padres, #9, Leftfielder, Jose Cruz Jr.
The probable tonight in SB is Jesus Castillo. I don't know much. Anyone on DT have any scouting?
It really bothered me yesterday that the first four batters in the Padres order wore 24, 22, 23, and 25.
Bud Black should have put them in numerical order.
Either that, or they should change their numbers to fit the desired batting order.
It seems inevitable.
Eleventh inning last night, I turn to my friend, "If Juan Pierre hits a game-ending home run here, I will stop at a liquor store on the way home, buy a beer and drink it in front of you."
She was eager to see that.
Pierre grounded out to third in short order.
36. some of the world seems to go crazy for
New York-Irish raconteurs (Al McGuire suffered the same uncritical adulation).
As for members of that group, some of us wish they would just shut up for a few restorative minutes here and there.
20. Knowing the massive societal and heart-breaking individual damage done by poisoned drunks everywhere, personally just can't get enough of those oh-so-belly-shakin' references to binge drinking.
If you're going to pull out all stops to win the game---I'd rather move Lowe up in the rotation and have him pitch on 3 days rest.
Martin needs a rest.
Martin's caught 645 innings this year. That projects 1,290 innings.
In the last 5 years, the catcher closest to that figure was Jason Kendall. He caught:
2006- 1,254
2005--1,286
2004--1,259
2003- 1,278
All other catchers (save Victor Martinez's 2005 season when he caught 1,233) have been below 1,200 innings.
Everyone knows what has happened to Jason Kendall's decline in the last several years. Whether it can be attributed to just his age, or his playing time the last several years--is up for debate. But, I just hope Russ Martin can avoid that decline.
A coffee that gives you the runs...?
the GCL averages are
250/336/359
some GCL dodger averages:
lambo 269/412/538
baez 357/372/595
Germano never walks people.
Pierre never walks.
Germano walks Pierre.
Vinny is the man.
For a great article/interview with Vinny
http://tinyurl.com/2vxw54
Except Vin likely wouldn't call it a shout-out.
That is the Dodger offense.
Only crazy thing is Nomar wasnt involved.
last time you said that, it was about kuo and then kuo proceeded to get lit up.
Peace in your middle crease,
LEX
Laroche has had 3XBH in 7ABs since hes been back.
Bench him.
Matt Kemp!
Boy that guy should play more--ya think?
well, it was hit a mile in the air and somehow it just carried.
By the way, someone should design a Matt Kemp "Bison" t-shirt. We need to somehow make that name stick. It's the perfect nick.
I'm wondering where Bull Broxton originated though?
Somebody, I think it was Steiner, said Kemp ran like a buffalo.
Being the annoying pedant that I am, I pointed out that there are no buffalo in the United States, but rather bison and we should use the correct name.
Apparently, I am influential enough that people listened to me.
way down in the minors. that was his nickname for as long as i can remember.
I'd buy that for a dollar!
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Thanks! Go Bison!
If he keeps it up today, it might eclipse it.
Right, and Dodgers management is the wasteful white man.
Hendrickson gets to make 1 start, then Mark Buerhle starts after the All Star Break.
Ok, I made up the last part.
51. All Southern California carpool lanes are now "Matt Kemp Lanes," in which only he is allowed to drive.
So it wasn't Mike Piazza's fault was it?
And yet, their pitching staff has given up the fewest runs in the MLB, by far. You do the math...
6ip 0R 8ks 0bbs
The Padre pitchers are very good at making sure no one steals first.
That's a benchin'.
Just gave him $30 million.
Spring to June is a celebrity look-alike who played some college ball.
Yeah, he's likeable at least, and is pretty much the only guy on the team who actually understands the offense.
Is Brox hurt?
First Base
3. Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers, 1,011,372
4. Derrek Lee, Cubs, 644,553
Third Base
4. Scott Rolen, Cardinals, 625,073
5. Aramis Ramirez, Cubs, 593,356
Shortstop
5. David Eckstein, Cardinals, 571,467
??? Hanley Ramirez
If the fans didn't vote for Rodriguez, then Posada would have been chosen. Then people would complain that the Yankees had three All-Star starters despite being mediocre.
Of course, Posada, Jeter, and A-Rod all deserve to start.
There are no Yankee pitchers on the All-Star rosters.
Cal Ripken Jr. is an apologist for Barry Bonds and steroids users.
Does Saito really need this much rest, I'm afraid he might get rusty. D.J. would have a good chance of winning with the D's behind him as the 51's are really abysmal w/o Loney, Kemp and Abrue (and when Laroche is injured). Working with Houlton, Bills and Kuo we really have some depth and potential.
Thanks, Chad.
This was about as good a chance as could be asked for a complete game, Bills cruising on only 88 pitches. If Bills had gone nine, it would have saved the pen, built his confidence, and maybe gotten him a three-hit shoutout. But, no.
IIRC, Bills was cruising in relief in another game not long ago, only to have Grady pull him. The Dodgers wound up losing.
Sometimes it's better to stay with a hot hand. Momentum can be a big factor in winning in any sport.
At least it was a good spot for Houlton's first outing.
>>> Bradley is eligible to come off the DL on Friday, when the Padres face the Braves at PETCO Park, though there's a chance, Towers said, that the team might let him rest his injury during the All-Star break and have him ready for a three-game series at Arizona starting on July 13. <<<
http://tinyurl.com/2sgxws
no need to risk tiring or injuring Bills due to his not having thrown 80+ pitches often in the last few months.
today: 7IP 3H 0ER 0bb 9k gamescore= 80
his previous high was the start at home last year vs the marlins...
7IP 3H 0ER 1bb 9k gamescore= 79
Oh. Wait. . .
Depends. Are they allowing inside-the-parkers this year...?
>>> Now in its sixth year, the Monster.com 2007 All-Star Final Vote gives baseball fans around the world the opportunity to select the final player on each All-Star team.
Balloting began immediately following Sunday's Major League All-Star Selection Show presented by Chevrolet, and continues until 3 p.m. PT on Thursday, July 5. The winners will be announced on MLB.com shortly thereafter. <<<
http://tinyurl.com/2rt6hp
If he'd thrown 88 pitches with no problem, he might have breezed to 100 or so. That might have been enough. But if that breeze changed direction even slightly, out with the hook.
There's been talk lately about the pen being taxed due to things like Kguo's short start and last night's extra innings. But, yeah, one inning for two relievers doesn't add much.
Anyhow, much better to be one game back than 3.
Is it one size fits all...?
If it doesn't fit,
Juan Pierre must sit.
maybe just that one blue bat. That thing was ridiculous
As long as they don't got blue balls, they should be OK.
https://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/707187.html
I was actually thinking up several inappropriate jokes, mostly involving double entendre and the Golan Heights
Of course, I want to beat the Padres now just like everyone else, but they have really good pitching, slightly deeper than ours, and why is that?
I am sitting here praying for no more "big deals" and no more "vets".
From all new accounts, Ned wants pitching not hitting.
I've heard that and that may be a good sign. But not for one of the four mentioned. And it looks to me like we have pitching in the system (Houlton, Meloan,etc.)
I think it's fantastic that we won today with Bills, Loney, Abreu, and Kemp contributing big things offensively and defensively. I hope management agrees. Frankly, I barely notice Pierre because I still have the kids to which to look forward. I don't even mind the Dodgers not going far in the playoffs if it means I get to watch these guys next year.
>>> The 23-year-old LaRoche, who also singled and finished 2-for-3 in Las Vegas' 8-2 loss, underwent surgery on his left shoulder in the offseason and aggravated it diving for balls in early June.
An MRI of LaRoche's shoulder came back negative, but he still was placed on the DL on June 18.
"I just tweaked it a little. It wasn't anything serious. It was like a deep bruise in there," LaRoche said. "It's been healthy the last four or five days, but they wanted to make sure 100 percent that it's OK." <<<
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/8270147.html
It was great to see Billingsley come into his own today. That won't have gone unnoticed, and is part of the plan they had for him all along. I don't think there are any worries there. Nor for Loney, at the moment. They did give Kemp another good chance today, and he made a lot of it. I suppose he's the one they might be tempted to trade, but I really don't think they will: his ceiling is still way high, and unknown.
If you want to argue that none should be traded, I won't complain a bit, but people love the trade talk, and to me, that means LaRoche and Kuo (note: I've never been enamored of Kuo).
Roberts OBP- .413
Polanco OBP- .381
Roberts SLG- .457
Polanco SLG-.425
Roberts OPS- .870
Polanco OPS- .806
Roberts SB- 25/29
Polanco SB- 3/5
Adu, I know about. Seitz is from SLO town, so I'm a little familiar with him.
I don't, but he's been discussed fairly extensively here by the prospectniks.
316 I didn't notice until after I missed the South Korea match.
I want to see Altidore,, who has the frame to add weight and be Twellman or McBride in the air, but is already fast and has a laser strike.
oh yeah, and Seitz is also an RSLer, and he graduated from Thousand Oaks, so um, there's that.
Maybe, for the first time in the history of the USMNT, we can have a bona fide finisher. Donovan is a great US player, but she just doesn't get it done on the world scene. Johnson is maddening.
*It's too much to ask
He's happy being Landycakes, and doesn't want to be a great player on the world stage. He should never be our captain again. Leave that to the players who want greatness.
321 I'll settle for an Arjen Robben.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article1963015.ece
Michael Essien at #5. That guy is a monster.
Thierry Henry- too low (although he'll be lucky to make the list next year with Barca)
Essien= monster, yes
C. Ronaldo should've been #1
Cristiano Ronaldo is an absolute assassin, but I think Kaka is the better all around player.
I'm the last holdout on earth that thinks Wayne Rooney is overrated. Which probably means I am wrong. But he still looks like a Hobbit.
There is pretty much no trades out there that I would like that are actually plausible.
I think Rooney is great player, but he can be taken out of his game with a well placed insult or middling foul.
1)Both Abrue or Hu could easily become superior ML shortstops.
2)LaRoche was indeed recently one of our most significant prospects. But he has the wierd and shifting "Labrum" over him. The way this injury is being conquered now we should get full value for him or give him full time to recover. (He may decide on surgery).
3) Don't underestimate Houlton. He is an experienced pitcher reaching his prime.
4) He could be an outfielder who looks to hit .280/10-15/80. I am not necc. advocating trading him. He also is very versatile(infield experience.)
he's already 25 years old and has struck out 100+ times this season in 500 at bats and has only walked 40 times. The 42 doubles are nice, but overall his hitting numbers just don't seem overly impressive.
Eto was #4 and Henry is every bit as good. A healthy year and he belongs in the top 5 of any list.
Steven Garrard- too high. He's lucky he plays with so much talent.
I would say the exact opposite, especially when you compare Liverpool to United, Arsenal, and Chelsea. I would, however use that argument for his international midfield teammate at #16 (Lampard). Next year looks promising for them with the young Spanish striker at #35 (Torres) likely set to sign.
Btw, I know the word is for now that Hendy will be the 5th starter over Houlton, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them change that quickly if needed. (Which it will be.)
But for now, thank dog, they took this one, as they really needed it.
Speaking of (under)dog, I saw the coming attraction for the Underdog movie today - not once but twice when the theater screwed up - when going to see Ratatouille (which I greatly enjoyed, btw, especially the last 25 minutes or so). The Udog movie looks odd, bears hardly any resemblance to the cartoon, except for character names and some lines, but could be cute for kids. But I'd already lost interest after seeing the coming attraction a second time.
Now I'm gonna watch Flight of the Conchords. Backatcha later.
Guzman is a full year younger than LaRoche, and has actually started to play much better for Durham. He has 12HRs this year, and is hitting .263/.292/.445----if he doesnt learn to walk he's going to have huge problems.
But, given how the Dodgers deemed Guzman a value-less asset (and when you give him up and get back Lugo--thats value-less), I can understand why they would be down on LaRoche and deem him expendable.
I would also argue that Garrard is overrated. But I think every English footballer not named Michael Owen has been overrated in the last ten years.
Fabregas will be in the top ten by next year.
"No, this is abuse. You want next door."
Eric Cantona played for Man U. Eric Cantona was the first international player I really fell in (completely heterosexual, and I mean that) love with. When I see the Man U jerseys, I still see Eric Cantona leaping into the stands like a madman.
Cantona. Zidane. Kaka. These are my favorite players of all time. Two of them are French. This is difficult to reconcile.
i saw him pitch last sunday. i posted a detailed scouting report too.
You just need to meet some of their fans. :)
You hate Man U, so you are a Chelski/Arsenal fan.
http://alyssa.mlblogs.com/alyssa/2007/07/the_the_other_s.html
Billingsley was a little shaky the first two innings, then nearly perfect the rest of the game. When he gets ahead early in the count he has great success. Had a few hard hit balls hit right at fielders and Matt Kemp made a nice catch at the wall against Cameron.
Kemp was great in his first two at bats, but once they started throwing him the off speed stuff he looked pretty awful. I wouldn't let him see very many fastballs if I were pitching to him, just a steady diet of offspeed stuff out of the strike zone. He's going to need to change his approach at the plate or he will have lots of trouble.
Loney looked good at the plate and made a good scoop of a throw in the dirt. He has a great looking swing, hit a ball hard right at the shortstop and seems to have great patience at the plate.
Abreu has a great glove and great range, a definite defensive improvement over an aging Kent. Didn't really impress at the plate, but far from the worst.
Pierre did his thing, Walked, singled, stole a base. Seemed like everybody stole a base in that one "small ball" inning.
Furcal's HR left the yard quickly, Kemp's was pretty high and thought it might be caught.
Nomar didn't look too great either, but got the biggest ovation, other than Martin.
Germano has an interesting repetoire. He throws a ton of offspeed stuff. The lefties seemed to hit it well, but the righties looked foolish vs the offspeed stuff.
Went to get a Dodger dog after the 7th inning stretch and they were all gone (sold out for the game). That was kind of disappointing, but I saved 10 bucks. My neighbors sat in the front row behind home plate, next to the Dodger dugout. They got to go into the clubhouse after the game and gets alot of baseballs signed and pictures taken with players and ex-players. Steve Garvey signed, Nomar signed etc... He's got some nice pictures, hope to post them online when he emails them to me.
Worst part of the game: Dodger Dogs being sold out.
Best part: Seeing all the young players play and some of them do very well.
vr, Xei
... and I'd rather eat paint than watch any MLS.
Vin mentioned the whole Ventura County outing in fairly good detail.
The Dodger Bums historic past and long bouts with mediocrity are right up my alley. :)
vr, Xei
Except that the D-Rays will win the World Series before Man City wins the Premiership.
I appreciate the support. But wow..I'll take "hitching your wagon to the wrong horse" for $500, Alex.
Hitching my wagon to the Dodgers was all fireworks in the beginning (80's) but has petered out and became pretty stale as of late. But staying a Dodger fan is a cakewalk to the tears and tribulations of the City faithful.
A former teammate of mine use to teasingly call me "Bandwagon" because one time I showed up wearing a jersey for the Greek national team - because my 'rents had gotten it for me when traveling there, and another time came wearing a Italian national jersey. I don't even root for Italia, just happened to have the jersey, and then of course they won the World Cup. Is that my fault? I got him to stop making fun of me for wearing a Broncos jersey and a Quakes jersey, though, when convincing him that was less bandwagonesque. Those are really my teams! Did I mention I have quite a few jerseys?
No Newcastle one yet though.
I'm surprised I guessed right. Of course, on another level, I'm not very surprised.
I read the article you posted. I only remember it because I opened it in a new tab that I didn't get around to reading till a day or two after I'd clicked, by which time I'd completely forgotten where it came from. It took me a very long time to figure out how I'd gotten there. I don't think the article said what you think it did. It wasn't a rebuttal of the value of baseball metrics, it was a sound statistical argument against saying that because a player has a .333 BA, that means he has a one in three chance of getting a hit during any specific AB. Which is true; most batters are less likely to get a hit in any particular AB off of Jake Peavy than they are on average. But I'm not sure what that has to do with the All Star game, unless you're arguing that Roberts has seen worse pitchers, so his numbers are inflated. That could be, but there's some leg work to do, before concluding it's so.
Despite a lackluster season and a cloud of suspicion hanging over him, Barry Bonds found a home in the 78th All-Star Game
He's hitting .304/.516/.603 with 16 HRs in 194 ABs. That's plenty of luster for me.
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As for the U-20 World Cup, I watched an amazing game last night between Uruguay and Spain, ended in at 2-2 with an injury time goal for Spain. Edison Cavani is going to be the best Uruguayan player since Enzo Francescoli.
I too was at the game yesterday and I was not as fortunate as you to not sit in the sun. However my buddy came through with some pretty sweet seats. I was on the field level, down the first base line, row 46 aisle A on the wall. Outside of burning alive and looking like a lobster today, it was awesome. I yelled out to Matt Kemp that he should be starting EVERYDAY and he smiled and gave a head nod in our general direction. Hiram Bocachica was harassed all day long, although he became visibly upset and was trading barbs in Espanol with some guys sitting two rows behind me that just wouldn't shut up. I think it was about the 7th inning and Hiram was playing catch with Mike Cameron and turned like he was going to throw the ball into the left field pavilion before the inning started. He faked it, and then pretended like he was going to throw the ball into to the crowd about where I was sitting. He faked that too and ultimately threw the ball into the Padres bullpen. After the chorus of boos subsided, I yelled out "That's why your not a Dodger anymore!" He turned and gave us a little bit of a grin. Then the guys behind me started yelling stuff at him in Spanish and wouldn't let up. One particular phrase that I won't attempt to try and pronounce seemed to really get under Bocachica's skin. This went on for about two innings until the drunken hecklers left. It was comedy. Other notes: I have been to four games that Matt Kemp has started, 2 last year (including his first HR as a big leaguer) and 2 this year. He has homered in every game. Billz looked goooooooooooood yesterday. Just the boost from the pitching staff that we needed. I also told my buddy that if we saw Tomko in the parking lot after the game, punches would be thrown and that he better be prepared to bail me out of jail if it came to that :)
Does Juan Pierre understand what OBP is? a walk lets you on base too, you know Juan .....
Really? The English Premier League is garbage?
I sort of adopted Arsenal after reading Fever Pitch, but I'm not really that invested. I tend just to root for Americans, so I follow Fulham intently right now. Actually, Clint Dempsey could be playing for a pub team, and they'd be my favorites.
Like Hallux, I also like just following the few Americans in the league, to see how they're doing.
I just like watching great soccer, er, football, wherever it's played.
380. Meh, if they were in a league I cared about, I would be bothered by my mistake, but since it is EPL, your just lucky I didn't refer to them as "that one club in London that's always mediocre, no, not that one, the other one."
But ten years ago the English First Division (or whatever it was) stunk, and now it's about to pass Serie A. Give it a few more years, and it will pass Serie A and La Liga.
There is also the not-so-insignificant fact EPL has made a concerted effort to make inroads in the American market. Serie A and La Liga can't be bothered with it.
Just to review, here's the notable mid-season trades from Last year:
-- Izturis, some other guy, and a bag of baseballs for Greg Maddux: good trade, he definitely helped down the stretch.
-- Baez for Betemit. No matter how much we use/don't use "meat," this is one was a laugher. Excellent move. Was this trade done off waivers or before the regular deadline?
After what he has done--especially lately---the team obviously can't have any confidence in him. No doubt he has very little in himself either--the usual mental box he puts himself in, "stuff" notwithstanding.
Tomko's game-deciding debacle vs. the Padres Saturday immediately followed his inability to hold a large lead time before. I don't delight in blasting Tomko, but if he pitches when it matters there will be more meltdowns, no matter if he has some success. A contending team has to minimize chances of that.
He will look great at times. But he has proven that too often he will blow it.
No one is perfect. But, as one example, if just one of his two relief meltdowns in Chicago last year didn't happen, maybe the Dodgers win at least one and win the division over the Padres by a game. Then, who knows what might have happened in the playoffs (see Cardinals, St. Louis, tho surely no one outside St. Louis thinks they were the best team in baseball last year).
He could bring back something--maybe not much--in a trade. Too many teams are hurting for any kind of pitching (but maybe not the "wrong" kind Tomko has delivered lately). Let him have a "fresh start" elsewhere.
Meloan or Hull or whoever would be a far better use of his roster spot. They actually might help the team and have a future, even.
(From San Jose Mercury News)
"When the announcement was finally made, the fans remaining in the ballpark booed the selection of the Dodgers' Russell Martin at catcher, having hoped for Bengie Molina."
I think they were booing a Dodger more than rooting for Molina.
I have a feeling that Peavy will get the start over Penny mainly because Penny started last year.
I was listening to KNBR on my drive home from work last week and a fan called in suggesting a Noah Lowry for Carl Crawford trade. So yes, I think they are delusional.
They (Yankees) need to convince their most alluring product to accept a trade and then turn Rodriguez into the kind of haul that transformed the Cowboys from also-rans to champions after dumping Walker on the Vikings.
Hopfully the dodgers won't be those Vikings.
If the White Sox can ask for Kemp for Buehrle (a free agent to be and Broxton/Bills for Dye, can't the Dodgers in the same spirit offer Kent for Tiexiera? Better yet, Kent and Nomar for Tiexiera.
In a more serious vein, Betemit would appear to be this year's Izturis trade for an veteran pitcher hopefully not named Pettitte.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Betemit go.
When Bonds was announced as the starting LF at the game yesterday, he was booed heavily. Granted it is Barry Bonds and it was Dodgers Stadium, so it's a given that he would be booed. As for the rest of the players being announced, nobody was really booed at all. I myself booed Carlos Beltran and Jose Reyes, as I think Matt Holliday and JJ Hardy should've been the starters. But apparently I was the only one that felt that way, cuz everyone else in the stadium (in my vicinity) anyway, could've cared less.
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