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Please stop comparing Chad to Matt Herges.
Thanks,
everyone
I filled my quota for the year.
with the camera pointing out the wedgie in it's full glory, another nice inning by Billz, stupid Kent though.
12-8 Pads.
It's unfortunate, because we need to win this game, but the Karma feels like we won't do anything right today. It may take an individual effort to turn it around.
We're tide with the Marlins for most in the NL with 85, that's pretty darn bad.
Billz is pitching very good I think we have a pretty good chance today.
Hu and LaRoche both started in Vegas, first inning, both singled, LaRoche drove in a run.
James McDonald has struck out 11, walked 2, given 3 hits, one of them a solo home run and he is trailing 1-0 through 6 1/2 innings. McDonald has now 24 strike outs in 22 innings in AA.
you mean 27Ks.
they also have this left hander Franklin Morales who is suppose to be pretty good. He's down in AA though.
McDonald has done what you would hope a good pitching prospect would do in the Southern League so I would have to think that he would now be perhaps just under Kershaw and Elbert in starting pitching prospects for the Dodgers.
31 Morales is touted, but not at the level Jimenez was. Honestly, Tsao was the biggest prospect I can remember. (once again- I'm speaking from not an analysis perspective). Jimenez was supposed to be the savior.
Maybe Russell could teach that pitch to Tomko.
Matt Holliday is pretty good.
You could not tell she was that young?
Run, Russell!
I'll give you the fact that she has a deep voice.
"The Naturalist."
I have this terrible, disturbing vision of Robert Redford triumphantly rounding the bases. Nude.
McDonald has a chance for a win as Suns score 3 in the top of 8th, 3-1 Suns.
http://slate.com/id/2169760/
Dumb.
Just plain dumb.
doesnt work the count.
doesnt let furcal try to steal 2nd.
yes. dumb.
{71] It doesn't surprise me, but it doesn't make me okay with it.
Pierre's Career Bunt Hit Average (minus 2007): .387
he hasnt been getting bunt base hits this year.
Dontrelle Willis in Blue by Tuesday?
1.Lack of a 4th,5th starter
2.Juan Pierre
3.Defense
4.Rudy Saenez coming down to earth
Well said.
Pierre is just fine, maybe a tad overpaid but in a year the market will correct that.
I oscillate between a big stick and a 7th inning guy as THE big problem.
Still 15-11, Pads.
Russell Martin's bad second half has to be on there.
Nice one.
Heh.
he could have stayed still instead of pretending to go to 3rd, I thought it was a bad play but oh well.
I take it JP has not distinguished himself. And it seems like the D's pitchers are having a terrible time finishing off hitters, starting with Bills.
I have had a feeling throughout this series that nothing would go are way, and I don't get as upset as I once did. When Kent dropped that ball for the second time and Loney was judged to go around--I knew it was so. Things will turn around. I just hope Colletti doesn't make any panic trades.
I met a couple of Dodger fans in Chicago last week and we went to Beloit, WI on Tuesday to see Clayton Kershaw pitch. We sat right behind the plate in the "scouts area" and watched the whole game. A 27-year Cubs scout sat beside us. He said that he had never seen Kershaw before, but that when he threw 3 pitches in warmups, he knew he was special.
While this wasn't one of Clayton's best games, I saw enough to know that he has the tools to be a dominant #1 starter for the Dodgers:
1. He topped out at 97 (1 pitch), but threw many in the 95-96 range;
2. He throws a "heavy" ball and shattered 5 bats (4 of which were "bloop" hits);
3. His worst pitch is his curve;
4. He tends to get a little rattled by bad calls (remember he's only 19);
5. He just has a "presence" on the mound; and
6. He mixes speeds very well.
I talked to Josh Bell and he seems like a good kid - he's a few years away, but he bears watching.
It's really amazing to see how different the talent level is at Low A compared to AAA (I go to a lot of Indianapolis Indians games). The Cubs scout told us that this year the talent levels across the low minors is lower than it's been in some time.
6-0 now, good news indeed.
His curveball is good, you probably just saw it on a bad day.
Are you a Cubs fan?
Good man Gen3Blue that's the way I see it.
LaTroy "Screaming Line Drive" Hawkins.
Classic Colletti-style trade, since both Aardsma and Williams flamed out after being acquired for a middle reliever.
Aardsma?
judging by the swing Russell was expecting fastball but it was not sow, it's only a 3 run game now with that 2 RBI single by Kent & it's only the 7th inning.
Nothing but a Dodger Blue fan. Since I live in Indy, I go to see the Dodgers in ChiTown, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Cincy and other locations (I spent 12 days in Vero this Spring).
So, No, I am not a Cubs fan!
Shouldn't the press do a story on why Pierre is terrified to hit with two strikes?
This is the crux of what makes Pierre so maddening.
Seriously. He is very good at getting the bat on the ball. He is awful at driving the ball, but he seems able to put the bat on almost any pitch, so why is he so fearful of making the pitcher earn his stripes?
Why is he so afraid to take two strikes?
Pierre is probably beyond help -- this is what he is.
But given how much the Dodgers have invested him and that they've suffered several hundred ABs of him doing it his way, shouldn't the Dodgers consider how they might be able to get Pierre to better apply his bat control and speed?
Why not require Pierre to devote an entire week to forcing the pitcher to throw two strikes to him every time he bats? It's Draconian, sure. I hate to curb a player's aggressiveness. My suggestion is somewhat whimsical. But what would be the worst result? Pierre would make an out after an average of four pitches? Is that any worse than what he is doing? Maybe it would be better.
I would also urge him, while he is standing there taking strikes one and two, to learn how to get his swing ready as the pitcher lets go of the ball, not after it. This is a major flaw to his technique. This is one of the reasons his swing is so defensive. He is trying to play catch-up.
It's maddening to watch. The man isn't devoid of talent, but he shows no trust in his exceptional hand-eye coordination. This isn't a failure of talent. It's a failure of approach.
This probably would strike Pierre as nonsense. The way he has gone about it brought him a $45 million guarantee from the Dodgers, so why change? His M.O. of being overly aggressive (fearful) tactically, defensive (tardy) mechanically is the same M.O. he's shown, ad nauseum, the last 2-3 years. The Dodgers had to know that when they hired him so Pierre could rightly tell them this is who he is.
Excuse me if this is repetitive.
Pierre is afraid of striking out, which actually makes him a worse hitter. Not only does he not take pitches, but he seems to prioritize making contact and putting the ball in play over actually hitting the ball hard or hitting it a long way.
So George Carlin posts on DT?
Besides when I asked if there is anything in the rule book that says a team must try to win, people thought I was being a doofis. So maybe I decided to become an actuall doofis.
Well, it actually is Meloan time (in Las Vegas :-) ). He has just been called on to save a 5-3 game in the top of the 9th.
Is is crazy to think the Dodgers should try to cure Pierre of his fear of striking out?
Back in Terra Cognita.
The problem is that the MSM and the current regime are the kind of people who think that "not striking out a lot" is inherently good, regardless of other factors (e.g. also not walking a lot, not hitting for power, etc.).
So, yes, the Dodgers should try to cure Pierre, but no, the Dodgers don't think he's ill.
That would be an improvement.
Las Vegas
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Pinango (W, 7-5) 5.0 10 3 3 2 3 0 4.11
Riley (H, 4) 2.0 0 0 0 1 3 0 6.43
Hoorelbeke (H, 9) 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 5.35
Meloan (S, 1) 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.42
Deciding if a team has to play certain players has always been a sticky issue in every sport.
I think the Dodgers should bring in Robinson Checo now.
Problems for the Dodgers:
1. Lowe's injury;
2. Wolf's injury;
3. Hendrickson and Tomko spots in the rotation.
4. Overworked bullpen.
5. Health of Russell Martin
6. Continuation of Nomar's struggles
For the last 5 weeks, the pitching is hanging on by a thread however, the team will probably be in a tie for first place when the game starts on Tuesday night.
when we signed him that's all we talked about (I know I did) Josh Rawith is a great guy but NOBODY is gonna tell me it was a great signing this dopey brain of mind runs on common sense & it screamed out blaspheme when we signed him.
Said pre-season thought it likely we'd have a repeat of starter inconsistency/fragility, like last year, and consequent bp burnout. Seems to be happening, and a lot earlier than my most conservative guesses. Like many of you, hope this doesn't lead to owner/front office panic.
Use this time to let the kids go to school. Turn the injuries into quicker roster transition for '08 and '09.
But honestly, when this kind of injury streak hits you, There is no warning or fault, and all you can do is try to do your best through the crisis.
The D's have had so much experience with expensive pitching failing, that I think they should try and develop an overflow of pitching, and there draft strategy suggests they are thinking that way.
They also have the luxury of fielding a team of home developed players, and having most of their budget to spend on high priced pitching. Melding these strategies could lead to a very nice near future.
There are few quality starters available, and everyone wants at least one from your list of untouchables.
Ethier for Kyle Lohse (or the like) is running-in-place, if you ask me.
I wouldn't part with Seanez just yet he's had some bad breaks in hitter friendly ball parks, Roberto Hernandez is a different story though.
The other problems you mentioned are definite concerns--but there arent any solutions to them.
I imagine Kuhn would have fined the Braves a ton of money. That was pre-Ted Turner.
actually not on the shelf but making rehab starts, my bad.
He's here, he got a contract to do just what he has been doing, why should he feel any motivation to change, though apparently, no one prepares more than he does.
But you forget the axiom that every Dodgers loss has to be blamed on Juan Pierre.
I just consulted the "Tanking" chapter in my book, and found that a .646 OPS qualifies.
So the Braves have two more innings to go to put up runs.
Or more accurately, at most.
But I guess there are those who like to rant about him because there is no chance he will get benched so I ought to consider that too and let it go.
The D-Backs bubble was burst in a really bad way, wowsers!
When Dave Smith's study is posted on Retrosheet, I will link his study about swinging at the first pitch.
Indeed, it's time to exit...
It's annoying.
No doubt he and Colletti will be secretly happy about the whole thing.
No doubt whatsoever.
I can envision a nucleus of young players whose patience and OBP mean that they almost always plum the depth of the opponents bull-pen. This effect is more than additive, if you stack players like this it snowballs ( I've lost the mathematical metaphor). LaRoche would make a great addition in this respect, so I hope he progresses.
Hopefully that exertion of effort doesnt give him a sore arm for his next starts.
>> Wolf out: The left-hander's workouts were again confined to the trainer's room and the club confirmed that he suffered a setback in his recovery from a shoulder impingement. He has been shut down indefinitely. <<
http://tinyurl.com/2vq46y
The choices:
Peter Gammons: Joe Mauer
Steve Phillips: David Wright
Eduardo Perez: Russell Martin
"The team everyone is watching is the Dodgers. After they pulled out of talks on Mark Teixeira, the smart money had them coming after a pitcher. Instead, it seems like the turmoil in the front office is continuing, making other teams unsure what the Ddogers are looking for, and who, or what they should [be] talking about."
"Tumoil?" I have visions of Logan White holding Colletti in a head-lock, or in some other scenario possibly as dire as that of James Caan's in Misery. Keep fighting the good fight, Logan. Stage a coup if it has to come to that.
I smell bull and it keeps coming from Will Carroll.
Trade Winds: Few deals in the works
Teams appear unwilling to part with prospects at deadline
By Jim Molony / MLB.com
Excerpt---
"Perhaps no contender is getting more calls regarding young talent than the Dodgers. The Dodgers, who are looking for pitching, have fielded plenty of proposals, but have rejected any that include certain prospects, particularly shortstop Tony Abreu, shortstop Chin-Lung Hu or outfielders Delwyn Young and Mitch Jones. The Dodgers would rather not deal third baseman Andy LaRoche, also at Triple-A, as well as some of the young talent on the Major League roster, like Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp."
(Also doesn't mention Loney specifically, but probably an oversight, especially in light of saying the Dodgers are getting trade offers for Mitch Jones...)
http://tinyurl.com/2ocaxm
This is not to say that Carroll isn't full of it, because Colletti could overrule objections from White if he is really hell-bent on trading prospects White doesn't want traded. At least so far, Colletti seems to be heeding White's advice. That could change by Tuesday, though.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7072012
Problem Number six wasn't much of a problem in July as Nomar had a solid month. July was his best month since last years all-star game and it was spread across batting average, on base percentage, and power. The 833 OPS wasn't vintage Nomar as the power is still not upto his old numbers but the BA/OBP were. He's sill not producing more then Betemit but I think if Betemit had 80 at bats in July instead of 35 his OPS would also be around 830. Going forward if our 3b can OPS between 825-850 we would take it no matter where the production is coming from.
Bill Robinson dies
Bill Robinson, the Dodgers' roving minor league hitting coordinator for the past two seasons, passed away on Sunday at the age of 64.
I was expecting somebody to have posted recent comments by Logan White on McDonald by now, but maybe they went unnoticed by others with BA subscriptions:
"The kid has always had a heck of a feel for pitching. He throws from anywhere from 88-93 (mph), but he has a really good down-hill plane to hitters, good movement, a good curveball, and an outstanding change-up. For me, I think he can definitely be a middle-of-the-rotation to a frontline pitcher down the road. I'm not sure we know what his ceiling is."
All of them except Maddux. That one was talked about for a long time and turned out to be reality.
Your probably the only one who's actually seen him pitch so you'd be in the best position to judge. He must be the number one RHP prospect at this time which is quite amazing for a guy who got a C rating from Sickels and was not even in the Baseball America TOP 30 2007 Dodger prospects.
I mean top RHP prospect for the Dodgers.
sounds like my scouting report :)
When i saw him, he hides the ball very well like Chris Young with that over the top/downhill release point along with everything else Logan says about him. I didn't particularly see good movement on his fb though .
He probably throws a tick harder then Chris Young but the way he gets batters out and batters guessing on his stuff combined with his flyout rates just reminds me of how Chris Young pitches in the bigs.
with those words from White, I assume the Dodgers hold McDonald in high regard and we (hopefully) won't see him being moved for a middle reliever!
Nice, I have to admit he wasn't on my radar. Do you have a link to your off season list?
That should be enough to cover Tomko's raise.
depending on how he pitches when he comes back, i might just exercise that option if i had any say in it. There really isn't that much pitching on the market this offseason and this season has showed you need all the pitching you can get.
hopefully some form of McDonald/Orenduff/Hammes/Elbert can contribute next year as well.
I'm probably banking on McDonald the most as a SP with Orenduff and Hammes doing some bullpen work and Elbert still needing time in the minors.
Does this set his development back another year?
from a recent ask BA column...
The Dodgers shut down Elbert on April 16, after his third start of the season, when he complained of shoulder soreness. The initial diagnosis was tendinitis, and Los Angeles tried to rehab him for two months. When that didn't work, the club decided he should have arthroscopic surgery to remove some scar tissue detected by an initial MRI.
The Dodgers regard the surgery as minor because there was no damage to Elbert's rotator cuff or labrum. He'll miss the rest of the regular season but should be able to pitch again in instructional league. Barring any further setbacks, he should be able to regain his status as one of the game's top lefty pitching prospects next year.
no labrum or rotator cuff damage is good news.
I was going to joke that I'm surprised that Vin hasn't told us 35 times about the name being derived from his parents not being able to decide between Yogi, Guava and Kermit, or something like that, since we've had to hear so often about Terrmel Sledge (every time he plays the Dodgers, at least 3 times per game).
Then I decided to look it up. There's only one Yorvit (this Yorvit Torrealba) in more than 10 pages of Google - he's unique. And guess what his Wikipedia entry says? And I quote:
"Yorvit's parents gave him his name when they could not decide between Yorman and Victor. They decided to combine the two into Yorvit." (with a source)
Jeez. These vacillating parents coming up with god-awful names. So we're lucky Vin hasn't latched onto this one yet.
What kind of a name is "Yorman" anyway? Apparently it's common in Venezuela. I don't think "Y" is used, at least not as a consonant, in Spanish anyway, is it? (Nor "W" as in all the Wilsons - Betemit, Valdez...) There's a Yorman Bazardo, a Venezuelan in the Detroit Tigers' minor league organiztion. And other Yormans (Yormen?) as well, all from Venezuela from the look of it.
Maybe in some circles using letters not commonly used in Spanish (Y, W) has a certain cachet? Or maybe someone misheard and transcribed some Scandanavian name like Jorvald, or whatever.
But Yorvit? Yucch.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/7thn
Granderson is on pace for 25 triples this year. The last time someone had as many as 22 triples in one season was 1949, when Dale Mitchell had 23. Mitchell also struck out to end Don Larsen's perfect game in Game 5 of the 1956 World Series.
I don't think Elbert has had any type of surgery before.
Any idea what produced the scar tissue? Wasn't Elbert a football star? One too many hits on the gridiron? Wear and tear of pitching?
Do the Dodgers trade for pitching to stay in the race, and at what cost?
Arrrgh, about the game today, too. I missed it live, then just decided to read about it (and read your comments) rather than wait around for the condensed game to show up on MLBTV later, and I'm glad I did. Bummer, but it wasn't in the cards obviously. Another day off will do them some good. Bad news about Wolf, though. The Dodgers have to still be looking at acquiring another starter. I just hope they're cheaply had.
(01). Scott Elbert, LHP
(02). Andy LaRoche, 3B
(03). James Loney, 1B
(04). Clayton Kershaw, LHP
(05). Blake DeWitt, 3B
(06). Jonathan Meloan, RHP
(07). Preston Mattingly, SS
(08). Josh Bell, 3B
(09). Greg Miller, LHP
(10). Tony Abreu, 2B
(11). Chin-Lung Hu, SS
(12). Ivan DeJesus, Jr., SS
(13). Steven Johnson, RHP
(14). Zach Hammes, RHP
(15). Eric Stults, LHP
(16). James McDonald, RHP
(17). Mike Megrew, LHP
(18). Delwyn Young, OF
(19). Xavier Paul, OF
(20). Wesley Wright, LHP
(21). Jesus Castillo, RHP
(22). Bryan Morris, RHP
(23). Mark Alexander, RHP
(24). Javy Guerra, RHP
(25). Cory Dunlap, 1B
(26). Josh Wall, RHP
(27). Justin Orenduff, RHP
(28). Marlon Arias, LHP
(29). Alberto Bastardo, LHP
(30). Carlos Santana, 3B/OF/C
Is there a better name in all of baseball?
That is only speculation on my part.
And eventually there will be a lot of old fogeys in the Caribbean whose names start with Y.
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No one has gone 20-20-20 since George Brett in 1979. Willie Mays did it in 1957 and Jeff Heath did it in 1941.
Granderson is doing well, and has a concievable name.
Funny, I was watching the conclusion of the Bourne Identity , thinking I might bone up on the series to watch the current one. But I put it on hold for a minute, and actually forgot I was watching it. This does not speak well of a movie, but I hear the sequals actually improve in this case. Can anyone vouch for this.
Thanks
I've never figured out how the Julia Stiles character got such an important job in the CIA at age 21 though.
Bourne director Paul Greengrass also directed the excellent Bloody Sunday, and it, too, can make you nauseous if you're not prepared.
probables for the Giants series?
(TUE) Lowry vs. Penny
(WED) Lincecum vs. Hendrickson
(THU) Zito vs. Tomko
http://tinyurl.com/257xxo
(...and yes the Bowies in Space is very cool...could FotC be the new AD??)
Or maybe just the total incompetence of youth? It seems total something is a qualifier lately!
Did anybody catch any mentions of old friend Eddie Murray in Mr. Ripken's speech today?
The only teammates Ripken mentioned were Brady Anderson and John Shelby.
I was going by the transcript that the Baltimore Sun had. It's possible that he ad-libbed something to Murray when he saw him.
http://tinyurl.com/2fercx
No, I just missed it when I read it. The ceremony was going on while I was flying home.
However, I know that at the SABR Convention in St. Louis, they set up a big screen TV for people to watch.
And there was a record crowd in Cooperstown.
The last two former Dodgers to be inducted into the Hall of Fame went in the same year, 2003.
I also have a new favorite Flight of the Conchords song. And Murray got one as well tonight!
As a baseball fan, no matter what city you're from, don't you admire and have a fondness for guys like Gwynn and Ripken? I remember how every time Gwynn batted it was almost a rule that you had to say what a great hitter he was and how he would always seem to prove you right. And that was true when I was 16 and when I was 35! If baseball was a big part of your life in the 80's and 90's it just seems like they were too.
http://tinyurl.com/3bdovk
It looks like the living HOFers not in attendance today were:
Hank Aaron
Ernie Banks
Lee MacPhail
Stan Musial
Phil Rizzuto
Nolan Ryan
Red Schoendienst
Carl Yastrzemski
Did anyone see them at the ceremony? 53 out of 61 in attendance is a great turnout nonetheless.
Judging by eBay, if you're planning on paying off debts with a Cal Ripken rookie card, you might as well just tell your friend that you'll get lunch the next time you're at McDonald's.
It may not be the best song they have done, but having Murray do a song makes it so much better.
http://tinyurl.com/3a7z2u
Musial was stuck here:
http://tinyurl.com/2oegth
You see. They're not really statues!
I've never understood why Jeff Kent, who has a reputation of being a "smart" ballplayer, made a habit of sliding head-first into first base. Since you don't have to worry about overrunning first base you won't arrive there any faster by sliding than by running all out. Or, at least, that's what I remember reading somewhere a long time ago.
317 How do you know my debts don't amount to just $85? (The avg. price I found for that one after searching just now - I have the Topps rookie card: http://tinyurl.com/2pp972) Okay, how about a nice dinner out? Um, groceries for the week? Er, 4 large boxes of cat litter?
Sigh. I should just keep it.
Yeah, I knew which one you meant. My favorite is still "Boom King" and it has been my favorite since I saw their stand up. Though, "Bret You Got it Goin On" comes close.
1982-1991: .328/.382/.434, 129 OPS+, 246 SB
1992-2001: .351/.396/.489, 137 OPS+, 73 SB
Okay, two more days til trade deadline. Then we can all sleep better.
Cal Ripken came along and never had fewer than 21 HR in any of his first ten seasons! He was a HOFer (in my mind at least) after his first 10 seasons:
.279/.349/.467, 126 OPS+
Through 1991, the only primary SS with a higher OPS+ were Honus Wagner (152) and Arky Vaughan (136).
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