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Aybar Out of Rehab
2007-08-05 11:28
by Jon Weisman

From Carroll Rodgers of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Infielder Willy Aybar has rejoined the Braves' minor-league system after "successfully completing a rehabilitation program for substance abuse," the Braves announced Saturday. Aybar hasn't played a game all year after opening the season on the disabled list with a hand injury and in the weeks that followed entering rehab.

The Braves are hoping they will have him back by the time the rosters expand in September, which would give them another backup on the infield. Aybar has played second and third base.

Aybar reported to the Braves' complex in Orlando a few days ago to begin working back into baseball shape and will head into a minor league assignment from there.

* * *

Today's game:

Gameday

Retro Gameday

Comments (260)
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2007-08-05 11:32:36
1.   Bob Timmermann
Good luck Willy.
2007-08-05 11:44:16
2.   Vishal
i liked willy. i'm rooting for him to make a successful comeback.
2007-08-05 11:49:23
3.   bhsportsguy
2 I just hope he has a successful comeback in his life, baseball should not be the most important thing in his life.

Speaking of comebacks, I guess they did not need an MRI, per Tony Jackson's ITD, Andy LaRoche took BP today and is expected back into the lineup tomorrow.

2007-08-05 11:56:22
4.   Eric Stephen
Culled from previous thread:
I think Bert Blyleven's HOF candidacy is hurt by the creepiness of the "Circle Me Bert" phenomenon on Twins' telecasts.
2007-08-05 12:04:09
5.   El Lay Dave
[From the last thread - I even refreshed before posting, but no NPUT comment!]

In trying to look at the Betemit/Proctor trade in a different light, I realized the similarity of another trade that was made, Wigginton (plus cash, perhaps the difference between the $2.7 and $2.1 million salaries) for Wheeler.

Wigginton, age 29, 2400 PA, .268/.328/.449 101 OPS+, slightly, but not markedly better than career averages the last few seasons.

Betemit, age 25, 942 PA, .266/.340/.446 102 OPS+, possibly on an improvement curve, salary ~ $500,000

Wheeler, age 29, 384 IP, 3.96 ERA, 111 ERA+, 1.305 WHIP, 2.78 K/BB, 1.13 HR/9

Proctor, age 30, 228 IP, 4.30 ERA, 102 ERA+, 1.373 WHIP, 1.94 K/BB, 1.38 HR/9, salary ~ = Betemit.

Extra facts for Ned: Wheeler pitched 1 1/2 season for the NEW YORK Mets and has more post-season experience (with Houston) than Proctor.

Is Wheeler significantly better than Proctor? Would the Astros have preferred the cheaper, younger and more versatile Betemit vs. Wigginton? Did the Dodger scouts not like Wheeler? Would Betemit for Wheeler be a trade that was any better or worse than Betemit/Proctor? Given the monetary savings, would Houston have thrown a little something else into the deal, even if it was just minor-league roster filler? Do I have too much time on my hands?

2007-08-05 12:06:26
6.   El Lay Dave
Good luck to Willy. Judging solely by the length of the rehab, it could be a very serious effort, unlike some of the recent Hollywood rehabs.
2007-08-05 12:10:26
7.   bhsportsguy
5 Another factor could be that Honeycutt was the minor league pitching coordinator during Proctor's time in the organization and he probably had some thoughts on Proctor's skills.
2007-08-05 12:39:06
8.   underdog
I actually prefer Proctor a bit over Wheeler, for whatever that's worth, so if that's what we're asking then I prefer this trade. I wish we could have traded Wiggington instead of Betemit (even though we never had Wiggington)!

In other news, my soccer team had about 16 shots on goal and couldn't score against a wall of a goalie today, while our sub goalie gave up 4. I played about as well as I ever have and it was all for naught. One of our players was injured 5 mins into the game. The other team had 2 ringers who aren't on their roster sub for them today, too - two of the best players in the league. That was fair. All told, underdog is not in a happy frame of mind. The Dodgers better win today.

2007-08-05 12:42:07
9.   Marty
If you are looking for the cure for insomnia, Tim McCarver is interviewing Merlin Olson on KCAL right now.
2007-08-05 12:42:31
10.   underdog
Man, a whole week without Kent. I never thought I'd miss him so much. I wish we could have Abreu up this week over Martinez, but what can ya do? The Dodgers are like my soccer team right now - too much pressure on the defense to keep it close.
2007-08-05 12:47:11
11.   El Lay Dave
8 I guess my unwritten question is, given a Wigginton for Wheeler type of market, it is realistic to expect much more than a Proctor for Betemit? I would think Betemit has the blessing and curse of potential more in his favor, but I would be biased.
2007-08-05 13:04:20
12.   bhsportsguy
11 I guess, to counter that thinking, some might say that if a pitcher like Proctor is all that you could get for Betemit, then you should not make the deal.

But if you are talking solely on what the market will bear, I think you are probably correct.

2007-08-05 13:04:21
13.   trainwreck
Hope for the best for Willy.
2007-08-05 13:10:10
14.   sanchez101
I don't know why, but I always root for former Dodger prospects. Good luck Willy
2007-08-05 13:21:36
15.   Gen3Blue
Looks like Gameday for me today, as I'll keep an eye on the Pad-Giants, which DTV has.
2007-08-05 13:21:44
16.   alex 7
six straight fastballs followed by a K-inducing curveball to their #3 hitter. Penny's just going after them. I think 12 of his 14 pitches were FBs.
2007-08-05 13:22:18
17.   PlayTwo
The youth movement seems to be paying off for the D'Backs and Rockies. The Dodgers are wise to follow suit.
2007-08-05 13:25:23
18.   Andrew Shimmin
Martin was limping after he passed first. But the injury delay (if there is one on GameDay) is Conner Jackson's. He's staying in.
2007-08-05 13:26:30
19.   Andrew Shimmin
That was almost something.
2007-08-05 13:27:19
20.   El Lay Dave
19 I'm a little surprise it didn't carry out in a day game on a warm day.
2007-08-05 13:28:48
21.   Bob Timmermann
Ooh, a rare time for Vin to turn over control of the booth.
2007-08-05 13:29:25
22.   Andrew Shimmin
If you wanted to run a commercial congratulating yourselves, you should have bought time.
2007-08-05 13:30:40
23.   El Lay Dave
Tough play.
2007-08-05 13:31:11
24.   Bob Timmermann
Bob Melvin must think that Webb is going to throw a shutout.
2007-08-05 13:32:08
25.   Marty
McCourt should go on the Tim McCarver Show.
2007-08-05 13:32:11
26.   Icaros
I've become very spoiled about getting to watch every game. This bites.
2007-08-05 13:33:02
27.   El Lay Dave
Penny's timing on covering was off. He was there first, just not on the bag yet.
2007-08-05 13:33:12
28.   Icaros
Sounds like I don't want to watch anyway.
2007-08-05 13:33:52
29.   El Lay Dave
McCourt should do this as a pre-game feature with PSA-type announcements in the broadcast.
2007-08-05 13:34:16
30.   Icaros
Penny's bad with the footwork on that play sometimes. He almost got his calf spiked big time a few weeks ago.
2007-08-05 13:37:06
31.   Andrew Shimmin
Dear Frank McCourt,

I'm writing to inform you that your right to use the rhetorical device(s) listed here segue has been suspended. Thank you for your cooperation.

Your Friend,
The Universe

2007-08-05 13:37:38
32.   sanchez101
great. exit bonds, enter upton.
2007-08-05 13:38:21
33.   El Lay Dave
At least the D-backs gave the Dodgers one out by bunting with their #5 hitter.
2007-08-05 13:40:05
34.   Andrew Shimmin
There's more to life than your morning coffee, Mr. CBS representative; should I stop by and pitch you my charitable ideas while you have it tomorrow?
2007-08-05 13:40:07
35.   El Lay Dave
Vin, in signing off with McCourt, "... it's always awkward, but ..."

Who says Vin doesn't acknowledge the negative?

2007-08-05 13:40:16
36.   Gagne55
The gloves have been an embarassment this inning. A dropped pop-up, a failed cover of first base, and a strong throw may even have gotten Reynolds- the flyball wasn't that deep.

BTW, what is wrong with Jeff Kent?

2007-08-05 13:41:02
37.   bhsportsguy
36 Bum hamstring.
2007-08-05 13:41:29
38.   Bob Timmermann
36
Kent has a strained hamstring/thigh.

Unless Jeff Franceour was playing center, the runner would have tagged and scored.

2007-08-05 13:42:45
39.   bhsportsguy
35 I know its in jest but what they were talking about is more important than any game.

But then as I write this, Vin sums it up eloquently and with proper perspective.

2007-08-05 13:42:50
40.   Gen3Blue
Icarus, were you counting on DTV like me.

In general its been a dad week for D's fans and most of us wouldn't be great company right now as Underdog pointed out.

2007-08-05 13:43:38
41.   El Lay Dave
36 No way - that got to Pierre pretty quickly and was deep enough. A CF would have had to be playing pretty deep to have been able to set up a strong throw on that.
2007-08-05 13:45:49
42.   El Lay Dave
35 Only partially in jest; it WAS awkward, and that was a negative, although the topic does far outweigh a mere baseball game, of course.
2007-08-05 13:45:52
43.   JoeyP
Gonzo post All Star Break:

.239/.254/.299

1 walk in 67 Abs.

This team cant afford to sit Matt Kemp and play both Pierre/Gonzo in the OF.

2007-08-05 13:46:18
44.   Bob Timmermann
41
Juan Pierre will be blamed for anything and everything.

I think I saw him on the Grassy Knoll back in the Zapruder Film.

2007-08-05 13:47:56
45.   silverwidow
Gonzo better be gonzo this off season.
2007-08-05 13:50:34
46.   El Lay Dave
44 I put "Juan Pierre" into a Serbian translator and it returned "Gavrilo Princip".
2007-08-05 13:51:04
47.   bhsportsguy
When someone writes up the summary of this season, they may overlook three injuries because they were not put on DL.

Saito's two mini breaks and this week for Jeff Kent.

While there were concerns about Nomar and Gonzo, they have been fairly healthy all season. Furcal, has been banged up since running into Repko. Pierre, if anything, does not get hurt. Martin is now perhaps feeling the effects of all those starts.

But Kent's hammy is the first major boo boo since Raffy missed the beginning of the year.

2007-08-05 13:52:25
49.   Dodgers49
Interesting, from the Moreno interview in the Times:

The buck stops with Moreno

>> Suppose the Angels could get that big bat without giving up any young players. They could, if Rodriguez opts out of his contract with the New York Yankees this fall. The contract pays him $27 million annually, through 2010.

"If he's opting out of a $27-million contract, don't you think they're expecting more?" Moreno said.

If they are -- by they, he means Rodriguez and his agent, Boras -- Moreno said they won't be getting it from the Angels.

"Right now, I don't see a $20-million player on our team," Moreno said. "We have the fourth-highest payroll. We don't have the fourth-highest revenue." <<

http://tinyurl.com/39ubc5

2007-08-05 13:52:27
50.   Sammy Maudlin
Things have been sinking fast since the removal of Hull.
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2007-08-05 13:52:58
51.   dzzrtRatt
Dre!
2007-08-05 13:53:36
52.   Ricardo
Martinez should bat 9th, Penny is a better hitter!
2007-08-05 13:54:10
54.   dzzrtRatt
But why on earth is Ethier hitting 8th?

Grady Little treats spots in the lineup like they're tenured positions.

2007-08-05 13:55:30
56.   dzzrtRatt
53 54
I'm 34 seconds late, and I get smoked twice!
2007-08-05 13:57:43
58.   Bob Timmermann
I sense that people are displeased.

I'm very sensitive to people's feelings that way.

2007-08-05 13:57:59
59.   JoeyP
It seems simple to try to get your best hitters the most at bats they can.
2007-08-05 13:58:28
61.   Andrew Shimmin
49- Maybe the world's biggest rat petting zoo could be an additional revenue stream. Apparently he has the necessary prerequisites scurrying around the food prep areas.
2007-08-05 13:58:29
62.   Ricardo
55. I agree, Marlon Anderson is much better. I´m afraid that Ned thinks that the reason that the Dodgers aren´t playing well is the youngsters.
2007-08-05 13:59:02
63.   bhsportsguy
58 Obviously to good karma of "Think Cure" has not transferred to the mindset of DT.
2007-08-05 14:01:09
65.   Bumsrap
I am missing Abreu while Kent is out. I have been thinking if Abreu is faking an injury because he thought he was sent down to avoid paying MLB money while he was nursing an injury, is that any worse than Ned sending him down to save money, etc.
2007-08-05 14:01:13
66.   El Lay Dave
62 Marlon Anderson cannot play SS. Ramon Martinez can.
2007-08-05 14:02:14
68.   Andrew Shimmin
Perhaps somber self-congratulation isn't good karma.
2007-08-05 14:03:17
69.   El Lay Dave
Byrne's dive on Ethier's dive was ridiculous, not really close. He's lucky it didn't bounce of the wall harder, perhaps below the padding, and become a triple.
2007-08-05 14:03:17
70.   Bumsrap
Gonzo and Peirre are boring me to death as is Ethier hitting 9th.
2007-08-05 14:03:24
71.   bhsportsguy
62 Why would you say that, he kept all the youngsters.

Go ahead and question moves and non-moves but can we at least put to bed the idea that Ned was going to come here and trade away the farm system. He hasn't done it through two off-seasons and two trading deadlines so can we agree to put that one away.

2007-08-05 14:03:31
72.   Bumsrap
8th
2007-08-05 14:03:41
73.   Bob Timmermann
Marlon Anderson can't even really play second base either. The Mets don't use him there.
2007-08-05 14:06:03
76.   blue22
73 - [in tune] And if you can't play second there, you can't play second...anywhere.
2007-08-05 14:06:08
77.   bhsportsguy
Brad Penny - Day games, they just never seems to work out.
2007-08-05 14:06:23
78.   El Lay Dave
People, there is a rule 6.
2007-08-05 14:06:40
79.   Bob Timmermann
This is turning into the Day of the Long Knives on DT.
2007-08-05 14:07:54
80.   Ricardo
71. Yes, you are right. But I´m afraid that he changes his mind about trading young players if the Dodgers doesn´t get to the playoffs.
2007-08-05 14:08:04
81.   El Lay Dave
77 Worked out okay on DT day!
2007-08-05 14:08:45
82.   Bumsrap
What has Mueller done to Loney and Kemp?
Why does Martin have to play every game?
Why does Pierre have to play.
Why does Gonzo have to play?
Why does Ethier hit 8th?
Why des Gonzo hit cleanup?
Why is Saenz still on the team?
2007-08-05 14:11:15
84.   JoeyP
71--Thats not the best way to get future calls from the ump.
2007-08-05 14:12:46
86.   bhsportsguy
80 But the message to me during this trading deadline is that getting to the playoffs this year is not as important as developing the players we have in place both here and in the system.

So while getting to the playoffs is important, they were not and are not going to trade away the guys that are here.

In many ways, what happens during the next two months is not as exciting as what will be going on in 2008 and beyond.

2007-08-05 14:15:30
88.   Ricardo
80. Never thought about it, you are right. Do you think that Wolf will be back next year?
2007-08-05 14:15:46
89.   JoeyP
If Gonzo is not re-signed and Kemp is given the starting job, then I'll begin to believe that Ned is committed to the kids.

But I suspect next year's situation with Gonzo will be like Nomar's this season.

2007-08-05 14:16:00
90.   Gen3Blue
Hu can indeed. Not who can.
2007-08-05 14:16:11
91.   El Lay Dave
85 Promoting Hu now is premature. He just got to AAA. His hitting picked up this season.
2007-08-05 14:17:35
93.   El Lay Dave
Hu is also not a hitting-phenom type prospect.
2007-08-05 14:17:55
94.   Andrew Shimmin
Anybody want to lay odds on LuGo's coming back? I think there's a better chance of Dreifort's coming back next year than there is of LuGo's.
2007-08-05 14:20:21
96.   underdog
A good cure for what ails one's offense is a trip to Cincinnati and St. Louis, I think. Especially the former. Also getting Kent back. Also, not playing so suckily.

I realize "suckily" isn't a word, but it seems to fit.

Anyway, things'll get better. Because they can't get worse.

2007-08-05 14:22:49
98.   Ricardo
94. I don´t think Gonzo will be back next year but in my opinion Kent and Wolf will.
2007-08-05 14:24:02
99.   El Lay Dave
August in a pennant race is a pretty high-pressure situation to promote a kid one month out of AA. He could easily produce worse than Ramon.
2007-08-05 14:25:16
100.   underdog
97 So who's missing from our "best guns," besides, at the moment, Kent?
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2007-08-05 14:26:52
103.   El Lay Dave
Gonzo's slugging is under .440. Kemp and Ethier will have plenty of experience under their belt. This is not quite like Loney and Nomar. Very unlikely Gonzo returns. Perhaps some AL team take a shot with him at DH?
2007-08-05 14:27:25
104.   Andrew Shimmin
98- I agree with you about Kent. But Wolf, I think, could go either way. I don't think Colletti will bother if he doesn't return to something like form this season. And it probably wouldn't be a bad idea. I wouldn't grouse about it, anyway. Too bad all around about Elbert and Miller, but they can't be Plan A, next year.
2007-08-05 14:28:35
105.   D4P
Loney is (predictably) coming back down to earth. What's a reasonable line to expect from the guy...? Something like

.300/.350/.450...?

2007-08-05 14:29:30
106.   El Lay Dave
101 Delwyn Young's first 10 MLB PAs have yielded this: .100 .100 .100 with 4 Ks. He has torn up AAA this year.
2007-08-05 14:30:07
108.   Eric Stephen
94 I don't think Gonzo will be back in 2008. It will be interesting this offseason to see what the moves are. I wonder if management will have the trust to stand pat offensively and promote from within to fill the holes. Abreu could be the utility IF (or starting 2B if Kent retires), Kemp and Ethier could play everyday, Delwyn Young could be the 4th OF, and LaRoche could be a utility man of sorts, playing 3B, 1B, and corner OF.

If I had to guess, Wolf will be back in 2008, perhaps at a lower (and longer?) contract than his current $9m option.

2007-08-05 14:31:11
109.   Andrew Shimmin
105- PECOTA's weighted mean had him at .295/.351/.470 coming into the year. I bet it would be higher if they reran it, mid-season.
2007-08-05 14:32:20
111.   underdog
107 I agree that Kemp (and Ethier really) should be playing full time. Hu I don't think is ready, either, though yeah, he couldn't be much worse than Martinez. Andy's been hurt, but will likely get his chance before too long, I'm betting. Meloan should be up soon, too, but the Dodgers problem has not been their bullpen lately.

I also agree with whoever said above that Ethier should not be in the #8 slot. That's ridiculous. Before Martinez?

2007-08-05 14:32:36
112.   Andrew Shimmin
Four days of Martinez is not the end of the world. It's unpleasant, but as long as Kent is coming back, it doesn't seem to warrant too much teeth gnashing.
2007-08-05 14:32:42
113.   JoeyP
Penny really shouldnt be bunting for like a bajillion reasons.
2007-08-05 14:33:23
116.   underdog
Oh great, that's all we need. This team needs someone to perform an exorcism, seriously. Bring in a witch doctor, whatever it takes!
2007-08-05 14:33:52
118.   Vishal
come on raffy, park it in the seats.
2007-08-05 14:34:08
119.   Vishal
hmm, that makes it sound like he hit into a DP.
2007-08-05 14:34:15
120.   underdog
Or, on the other hand, Penny just set them up with the ol' "I'm hurt! No, I'm not" fakeroo.
2007-08-05 14:34:25
122.   D4P
If Penny had made an out, his BA might have dropped below his ERA. That hit gave him some breathing room.
2007-08-05 14:35:09
124.   Vishal
what's going on?
2007-08-05 14:35:23
125.   Andrew Shimmin
We should get a fund raiser going to buy DT a fainting couch. All the sighing has me worried that we're unprepared.
2007-08-05 14:36:11
127.   underdog
Another old chestnut I always like is the "Why is Pierre starting every day?" one, an oldie but a goodie. Thinking outside the box, Ethier in the # slot wouldn't be such a bad deal, would it? Bring Pierre in late in the game if his streak is so important.
2007-08-05 14:36:50
128.   D4P
316 swings at terrible pitches. The guy's knowledge of the strike zone is pathetic.
2007-08-05 14:37:52
129.   El Lay Dave
124 Furcal flied deep to center, Pierre popped out, all with two on. Inning over.
2007-08-05 14:39:01
131.   underdog
316?
2007-08-05 14:39:36
133.   underdog
130 Dude, really. Chill. Take a break from baseball for a bit if you need to.
2007-08-05 14:39:36
134.   Bob Timmermann
125
I have already cornered the market on fainting couches.

Effigies, fainting couches, long knives can all be purchased from my designated supplier.

2007-08-05 14:40:20
135.   D4P
316?

As in "Juan .316"

2007-08-05 14:40:23
136.   Andrew Shimmin
Derek Lowe's id was the downfall of 2005.
2007-08-05 14:41:49
138.   Andrew Shimmin
134- Any truth to the rumor that StubHub is your official secondary market supplier?
2007-08-05 14:41:53
139.   El Lay Dave
Reality check: baseball has a 162 game season. Even great teams lose 60 games. Bad streaks happen. Good hitters make outs 65% of the time. Good pitchers give up three runs every nine innings, on average. Sometimes things don't go the way one might like.

The Dodgers are struggling for a few games - it happens. They are still in the pennant race. They are still only down 3-0 in this game; they (finally) scored seven runs yesterday. Who knows what might happen?

2007-08-05 14:42:49
141.   Bob Timmermann
138

It's a spinoff called StubEffigy.

2007-08-05 14:43:29
142.   D4P
Penny in line for Quality Start.
2007-08-05 14:43:40
143.   underdog
Honestly if you want to talk about the Dodgers' season going down the drain, you should just read and post on Tony Jackson's blog on insidesocal.com - he's being the king of negative hyperbole right now. Hard not to be negative right now I know, but when it becomes repetitive and overly dramatic, it's pointless and makes me feel worse, anyway.
2007-08-05 14:44:26
145.   bhsportsguy
The Dodgers are 1 for 23 in their last 4 games with RISP.
2007-08-05 14:44:58
146.   D4P
No walks in the game thus far.
2007-08-05 14:45:07
147.   Bob Timmermann
If you want to feel really morose, check out the top of the ninth inning of the Brewers-Phillies game.
2007-08-05 14:45:52
148.   Ricardo
139.That´s true, last year in July the Dodgers were struggling but got to the playoffs.
And what will happen I don´t know, but I know that Pierre will not hit a HR today. :)
2007-08-05 14:46:40
149.   underdog
I really would've started Lieberthal one of these last two games - Martin's the Golden God but he's looked banged up and sluggish, and we really need him down the stretch. But I guess that's an old chestnut at this point, too.
2007-08-05 14:46:45
150.   Andrew Shimmin
Hard not to be negative right now

It's easier for me, since I'm a D'backs fan, now. But I know what you mean.

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2007-08-05 14:47:28
152.   bhsportsguy
143 I really don't get the point of his rants, I guess he feels that its his forum to write his opinions as opposed to his articles in the paper but he writes it as if he is just a very upset fan.
2007-08-05 14:48:06
153.   D4P
LuGo's OPS has fallen below .800
2007-08-05 14:48:16
154.   underdog
147 Wow, if I was a Brewers fan I'd definitely feel bummed out. They used 8 pitchers in that game - so far.
2007-08-05 14:48:28
156.   El Lay Dave
151 I didn't say he can't hit; I said he might not be ready for MLB and that he started hitting this season. He has one month in AAA.
2007-08-05 14:48:37
157.   bhsportsguy
150 But the D-Back's have had periods like this too this year.
2007-08-05 14:49:19
158.   D4P
Nomar's OPS has fallen below .700, which isn't as bad as it sounds because it means that his OPS actually (finally) got up to .700 in the first place.
2007-08-05 14:49:36
160.   Eric Stephen
The part of Tony Jackson will be played by Randy Quaid, of Major League 2 fame.
2007-08-05 14:49:52
162.   El Lay Dave
149 I assume that Martin not resting today is partially fallout from Kent not playing. How many good sticks can Grady have out?
2007-08-05 14:50:14
163.   Bob Timmermann
For all we know, Hu could be the second coming of Chin-Feng Chen.
2007-08-05 14:50:27
164.   underdog
150 Well, the Red Sox have the best record in baseball now, so I decided to become a Red Sox fan. There! That was easy. Problems-be-gone!
2007-08-05 14:51:51
165.   underdog
162 Yeah, yesterday's the day I would've sat him. But the point is, Martin is normally a good stick, but hasn't been doing much this week and looks a little banged up. Is Lieberthal such a bad stick that this line-up would be considerably worse today? In general, of course I'd agree with you.
2007-08-05 14:51:51
166.   D4P
Hu could be the second coming of Chin-Feng Chen

Q: Who's to say:
A: Hu, that's who.

2007-08-05 14:52:08
167.   Ricardo
164. And they have Eric Gagne!
2007-08-05 14:52:55
169.   El Lay Dave
159 163 Or any other of the vast number of AAA stars turned MLB flameouts.

Hu is not going to be called up to ride the pine. There is no starting job for him, yet. Kent is not even on the DL.

2007-08-05 14:54:19
170.   Andrew Shimmin
157- Of course. I'm with you on this one; there's no sense getting too depressed over a lousy streak, just like there's not sense deciding that you're invincible when you ring off a six game winning streak. In baseball, as in life, failure is the positive element.
2007-08-05 14:54:44
171.   El Lay Dave
168 No, it isn't. Chen's career:
.091 .200 .091 -18

-18 OPS+ (!)

2007-08-05 14:54:47
172.   underdog
Thankyoumuch, Brandon Webb.

So is Kent not even available to pinch hit? I'm assuming he is since he's come out on deck a couple of times this series but hasn't actually hit.

2007-08-05 14:56:03
173.   bhsportsguy
It still pains me that this season could have been lost because of the agressiveness of Jason Repko.
2007-08-05 14:57:36
174.   Eric Stephen
172 Little said Kent would be available to pinch hit only in "game-breaking situations." Kent was on deck Thursday night when Loney made the final out of the game.
2007-08-05 14:57:55
175.   Andrew Shimmin
Good for you, Lucille II.
2007-08-05 14:59:23
176.   Bob Timmermann
Jeff Kent is 3 for 30 in his career as a pinch hitter. He's 2 for 20 in his careera as a DH.

I guess he doesn't like coming off the bench.

2007-08-05 14:59:27
177.   D4P
Good Piece of Hitting by Ethier.
2007-08-05 15:01:11
179.   Vishal
[171] i call small sample size.
2007-08-05 15:03:12
180.   El Lay Dave
179 Of course, but it is a similar sample to Lucille II's 5-21 in Kent's place these last several days.
2007-08-05 15:03:50
181.   Bob Timmermann
Brewers down to their last out, but Kevin Mench drew a walk against Jose Mesa.

As they say in Milwaukee, "Kevin Mench doesn't walk."

2007-08-05 15:04:02
182.   Vishal
[147] joe table is now in to close it off for the phillies.
2007-08-05 15:06:01
183.   Bob Timmermann
Ooh, Manuel intentionally walks Estrada to load the bases for Craig Counsell, the Pat Tabler of the 21st Century.
2007-08-05 15:06:32
184.   Vishal
[180] even then... CFC got 22 at-bats spread out over 19 games in four years. maybe he might've gotten a single start in that time period. to judge him based on that is incredibly unfair. lucille ii, on the other hand, has had almost 2000 major league at-bats, so we have a good idea of what his production level is.
2007-08-05 15:06:56
185.   Bob Timmermann
No joy in the Cream City, the Mighty Counsell lines out to second.
2007-08-05 15:07:18
186.   bhsportsguy
Aside from Lowe's start, the starters pitched okay this homestand, not great but okay.

Saito made 36 appearances in 89 games during the first half. He's made six so far in the 21 games after the ASB.

2007-08-05 15:07:41
187.   alexx
What happened to Xavier Paul?
2007-08-05 15:08:00
188.   alex 7
2008 lineup? Doubt Ned somehow replaces Pierre with Andruw Jones, but would be nice.

Furcal SS
Ethier LF
Russell C
Kemp RF
Loney 1B
Kent 2B (Abreu/Hu)
LaRoche 3B
Pierre CF

I don't really see a non-pitcher position that Ned would swing a trade for. Troy Glaus is a FA though.

2007-08-05 15:09:18
189.   Louis in SF
There may have been a post earlier today, but just came back home and got this email from Diamond regarding the status of TOny Abreu

Hi Louis, it's my understanding that there is no official change to Tony Abreu's status. He has the same abdominal issue, but is not on the seven-day disabled list, and while I did notice the Web site change, I checked and he is not on any "reserve" list as of now. I'm told it's possible he's not on the DL because there's no infielder to promote to Las Vegas anyway. Thanks for the heads up, might have more after today's game.

Diamond

2007-08-05 15:10:01
190.   Eric Stephen
188 Glaus is signed through 2008, plus an $11.25m player option with Toronto.
2007-08-05 15:10:49
191.   Eric Stephen
190 Glaus's player option is for 2009.
2007-08-05 15:11:44
192.   dzzrtRatt
Nice play.
2007-08-05 15:12:15
193.   Gen3Blue
Baseball is such a game of hot streaks and cold spell. Without wanting to toot my own horn, I have to say I was amazed at how much the change in hitting coaches was praised by writers far and near for contributing to the D's hot hitting. I was aghast, thinking does this mean when the D's stop hitting for a while it will be Muellers fault?
As often happens in slumps, teams get away from their good characteristics/we usually would have milked Webb for more than 83 pitches in seven innings.
2007-08-05 15:12:59
194.   Andrew Shimmin
The guy in the white shirt should be escorted out. And he should be worried about his physical safety.
2007-08-05 15:13:36
195.   underdog
Holy cow, as Phil Rizzuto would say.

If nothing else, the Dodgers have had some web gems this week - most of them by Furcal. For that's worth.

2007-08-05 15:14:08
196.   Lexinthedena
Proctor shows great composure...wonder if he'll be given a shot at the rotation next year....
2007-08-05 15:15:40
197.   underdog
Come on Slappy, give us an inside the park bunt home run here! Something to get the crowd involved.
2007-08-05 15:16:17
198.   Gen3Blue
OK Proctor.---maybe we got something useful.
I'm somewhat optimistic. Before I found DT, I would probably be on a suicide watch, or hauling a Kalishnikov into a McDonalds, at this point in the week.
2007-08-05 15:16:33
199.   alex 7
my ideal lineup:

Furcal SS
Ethier CF
Russell C
Dunn LF (trade D. Young/McDonald?)
Kemp RF
Loney 1B
LaRoche 3B
Hu/Abreu 2B

If you go for broke, package Kershaw for ticked off Johan Santana. In this moody chat, I will dream of a Santana, Penny, Lowe, Billingsley rotation.

2007-08-05 15:16:39
200.   underdog
This game is the cherry on the cake of my day.
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2007-08-05 15:17:33
201.   underdog
Argh, Dunn is such a bad outfielder. Can we please stop asking for Adam Dunn? Other than that, like your lineup.
2007-08-05 15:18:27
202.   bhsportsguy
199 Kershaw for Santanna would be a horrible trade for the Twins.
2007-08-05 15:19:22
203.   underdog
What's the opposite of clutch hitting? Unclutch? Klotch?
2007-08-05 15:19:26
204.   PlayTwo
Another inning of this and anyone who attended all three games deserves to have their parking validated.
2007-08-05 15:19:29
205.   Vishal
[196] why do we need him in the rotation? what makes you think he will be better as a starter than as a reliever? his ability to warm up quickly makes me think he is well-suited for relief.
2007-08-05 15:19:35
206.   Eric Stephen
I forgot to mention I saw something funny at Petco last night. A fan in a San Francisco jersey was yelling at a Padres fan, reveling in the fact that the Padres had no championship rings. Looking at the man doing the taunting, I would guess him no older than 35, which would mean he wasn't alive for the Giants' last title (1954), which of course came in New York.
2007-08-05 15:20:04
207.   bhsportsguy
1 for 24 with RISP. 5 or 6 more hits during those situations might have made this homestand more fun.
2007-08-05 15:21:24
208.   Lexinthedena
205- I'm just thinking of who would fill out the back of the rotation next year....
2007-08-05 15:22:02
209.   silverwidow
Next year's pen:

Saito (?)
Broxton
Meloan
Proctor
Beimel

Rest is a crapshoot.

2007-08-05 15:22:35
210.   Gen3Blue
Easy Underdog. Think of pleasent thoughts and places.
2007-08-05 15:23:03
211.   natepurcell
Mark Reynolds cannot hit a good fastball. he's swung through like 10 91mph+ fbs in this series.
2007-08-05 15:23:08
212.   alex 7
Somehow I think Dunn does enough with the stick to compensate for his adventures in LF. I think Boston feels the same about Manny.

Factor in that you also get an increase in prouctivity from CF with that move going from Pierre's offense to Ethier's, and it's easier for me to live with Dunn's D.

2007-08-05 15:24:41
213.   Vishal
[208] well, we'll still have penny and lowe, right? and schimdt should be back. and billingsley. maybe we can keep wolf, else i don't see why we can't use a houlton or a hull. maybe miller or elbert could contribute by then. we have a bunch of 5th starter possibilities i'd say, and that doesn't even include tomko/hendrickson.
2007-08-05 15:26:12
214.   silverwidow
213-James McDonald should be in the 5th starter mix next year.
2007-08-05 15:26:40
215.   alex 7
Is Beimel signed through next year? Brazoban averaged over a K per IP in the minors this year, albeit in only 18 innings. What's his health status?
2007-08-05 15:27:07
216.   natepurcell
215

I think Brazoban went down with a torn labrum.

2007-08-05 15:28:10
217.   Lexinthedena
213- I want to agree with you about Shmidt, but I am not very optimistic, and I would be suprised if Wolf was brought back....either way, I think Proctor presents an interesting option...
2007-08-05 15:28:41
218.   alex 7
bh- I stated "package" Kershaw because I agree with you. Just didn't want to think of random AA hitters that Minny might find useful. Seems most of the "name" hitting prospects the Dodgers have left are in A-ball or lower.
2007-08-05 15:31:01
219.   Eric Stephen
215 Beimel is arbitration eligible in 2008.
2007-08-05 15:31:13
220.   Bob Timmermann
Barry Zito is pitching in relief today for the Giants.
2007-08-05 15:31:53
221.   Lexinthedena
Since we are playing 2008 lineup fun...here is my dream....

1-Furcal SS
2-Martin, C
3- Loney, 1b
4- Tori Hunter, CF (Ship Pierre to St. Louis, or Pittsburgh, the only two teams I could imagine wanting him)
5-Ethier. LF
6-Kemp, RF
7-LaRoche, 3b
8- Nomar, 2b

That's my fantasy.....or we could sign Fukedome to play CF.....he can play CF right?

2007-08-05 15:32:09
222.   Eric Stephen
Barry Zito just pitched an inning of relief in SD.
2007-08-05 15:32:41
223.   Johnson
Barry Zito just entered in relief in the Giants/Padres game. After a quick check, it seems to be his first career relief appearance. Lowry was pulled after only three complete allowing 2 runs which probably taxed the SF pen - I don't know if there was an injury issue to Lowry.
2007-08-05 15:32:47
224.   Eric Stephen
My waffle iron takes longer to heat up than a Griddle.
2007-08-05 15:33:19
225.   natepurcell
its hard to be optimistic right now. Nothing's going right for the blue crew.
2007-08-05 15:33:29
226.   Johnson
220,222 Why am I so wordy?
2007-08-05 15:34:27
227.   underdog
Well, misery loves company. So thanks for being good company during that truly miserable homestand.

Here's hoping the road trip wakes them up a bit. I think I'm gonna skip reading Tony Jackson 'til they start winning again, if then, but I'll definitely check in with y'all again manana.

2007-08-05 15:34:40
228.   alex 7
Looking at possible free agent pitchers, one who has interesting peripherals and might come cheap is Freddy Garcia. He's 31; had very good years in '01, '04, and '05; lousy years the past two; yet has 50 k's/19 bbs in 59 innings this year.
2007-08-05 15:35:00
229.   bhsportsguy
Now we have the reached the low of the low times. And we have a little more than 48 hours until the next game.

So tomorrow, go out, have a drink, talk about something else in the world.

Then around 4:00 p.m. Tuesday, it will be Time for Dodger Baseball!

2007-08-05 15:35:08
230.   Bob Timmermann
Lowry was injured and the Giants and Padres played extra innings. The Padres sent down Hensley after the game and called up Mike Thompson, who exists solely for the purposes of the Padres to call up in case they need a pitcher.

I've lost track of how many times Thompson has gone back and forth between San Diego and Portland.

2007-08-05 15:35:21
231.   underdog
Have faith Nate. And at the very least, at least we're only a month away from seeing a lot of kids come up.

I'm hoping a couple of them come up before then, but at least that's something.

2007-08-05 15:35:49
232.   Bob Timmermann
228
Garcia's arm is pretty much gone.
2007-08-05 15:36:43
233.   Bob Timmermann
But you can read Tony Jackson's suicidal thoughts next week while he also complains about the humidity.
2007-08-05 15:37:25
234.   natepurcell
221

if the dodgers didn't care about money or defense...

ss furcal
c martin
lf laroche
3b arod
2b kent
1b loney
rf kemp
cf ethier

in 2009, furcal leaves, arod moves to short and laroche back to 3b.

2007-08-05 15:37:42
235.   alex 7
In '08, you figure Ned will be more comfy giving McDonald the Billingsley bullpen trial first.
2007-08-05 15:38:22
237.   Eric Stephen
In the cheesy movie that is the 2007 Dodgers season, we are now simply going through the montage in which the protagonist falls on hard times and hope seems to be lost.

I'm eagerly awaiting the happy, happy fun montage (accompanied by music by Herman's Hermits) during which the Dodgers begin their comeback.

2007-08-05 15:39:13
239.   Bob Timmermann
In addition to Zito relieving today, Greg Maddux has been used as a pinch runner.
2007-08-05 15:40:17
241.   natepurcell
Loney's home and away splits are pretty disturbing.
2007-08-05 15:40:29
242.   Bob Timmermann
237
Woke up this mornin' feelin' fine
There's somethin' special on my mind
Last night I met a new girl in the neighbourhood, whoa yeah
Somethin' tells me I'm into something good
(Somethin' tells me I'm into somethin')

She's the kind of girl who's not too shy
And I can tell I'm her kind of guy
She danced close to me like I hoped she would
(she danced with me like I hoped she would)
Somethin' tells me I'm into something good
(Somethin' tells me I'm into somethin')

2007-08-05 15:40:53
243.   underdog
Well, I couldn't take it any more. Yet another hyperbolic post from Tony "Droopy" Jackson spurned me to respond. Really, he's a journalist? Give me a break.

Okay, I'm outta here. I think bh is totally right in 229 - keep away from the game tomorrow and let's hope the team can come back refreshed along with us on Tuesday.

2007-08-05 15:42:44
244.   alex 7
with Kershaw's aggressive mentality, any chance he could succeed in the pen by the middle of next year? I was thinking the main thing that usually hampers young pitchers is control and the long ball. Kershaw's aggressive nature and pitch movement might curtail both of those problems.
2007-08-05 15:44:08
245.   D4P
Fire Mueller...!
2007-08-05 15:44:44
246.   alex 7
Kershaw can be our Frankie Rodriguez in our '08 World Series run :)
2007-08-05 15:44:46
247.   Bob Timmermann
I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And every one was an Henry (Henry)
She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry
Henry the eighth I am

Second verse same as the first

2007-08-05 15:46:18
248.   natepurcell
244

I doubt it. Kershaw is sort of hitting the wall in low A right now and it seems like Midwest hitters have caught up to him within the last month. It would be asking way too much of him to pitch on the big league team next year in any role. I just don't see it unless he improves his command rapidly and his secondary pitches improve in the same fashion.

2007-08-05 15:46:20
249.   dzzrtRatt
After watching this week's games, I've come to the conclusion that baseball is actually magic. There are no "slumps" or "hot streaks." Very simply, there is the provision of, and withdrawal of, favor, from a supernatural force. Right now, the Dodger bats and gloves have been hexed. But something will happen to propitiate this spectral creature -- James Loney will put his right sock on his left foot, perhaps -- and it will all go away, and they'll be hitting in bunches again.

Doesn't having a rational explanation help?

2007-08-05 15:48:00
250.   Eric Stephen
240 The montage will include:

1) Alternating footage of Brett Tomko painting and striking out hitters.
2) Juan Pierre nailing batting gloves to the wall of his Granada Hills apartment
3) Lots of inventive dugout celebrations following Matt Kemp HRs

The montage will end with Nomar having the time of his life at home with Mia and the kids. On a day Grady comes to visit the house (as the music fades out), Nomar says to his wife, "Honey, how could life get any better?" Mia says, "Well, you could win the World Series." Then, Grady Little jumps up out of his chair and screams, "What are we waiting for?"

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2007-08-05 15:48:42
251.   alex 7
what can we do to help dzzrtRatt?
2007-08-05 15:49:48
252.   Gen3Blue
I walked her home and she held my hand. Knew it woundn't be just a one night stand. I asked to see her next week and she told me I could(she told me I could)
So I hit her over the head and threw her in the back of my VW! Uh-ohh, I think I veered from Herman to Black Sabath. This week has not been good --sorry1
2007-08-05 15:50:51
253.   Eric Stephen
252 Crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?
2007-08-05 15:51:26
254.   Bob Timmermann
Is herm still alive?
2007-08-05 15:52:09
255.   Eric Stephen
In 253, I meant to reference 251, but I mistakenly typed 252 instead.
2007-08-05 15:55:08
256.   Gen3Blue
255 It remained appropriate however.
2007-08-05 15:56:31
257.   JoeyP
Gonzo's regressed to the mean.
Penny/Lowe are as well.
Martin's games played total is starting to catch up to him.
Pierre is still Pierre.
Nomar is still Nomar.
And Kemp doesnt play enough.

All in all, 4 games out isnt the end of the world in August, but it doesnt look good right now.

2007-08-05 16:01:48
258.   D4P
Hoffman blows.

The save, that is.

2007-08-05 16:02:34
259.   D4P
258cont.
Oops, I thought the Padres had been up 4-2. They snuck in another run in the 8th that I didn't know about.
2007-08-05 16:02:59
260.   Bob Timmermann
258
You must keep score differently than other people.
2007-08-05 16:07:03
261.   D4P
Hoffman salvages the game for the Padres.
2007-08-05 16:13:41
262.   Dodgers49
Meloan today:

Las Vegas
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Meloan 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 0 1.08

2007-08-05 16:14:39
263.   Sammy Maudlin
Starting lineup:
WR- Matt Kemp
LT- Jon Broxton
LG- Chad Billingsly
C- Mike Liberthal
RG- Scott Proctor
RT- Brad Penny
TE Gonzo
WR2- Andre Ethier
QB-Derrick Lowe
FB- Russel Martin
TB- Rafeal Furcal
2007-08-05 16:29:09
264.   Andrew Shimmin
249- http://xkcd.com/298/
2007-08-05 16:45:28
268.   JoeyP
Dbax have a chance to extend their lead in the division--they play Pirates/Nats/Marlins next 9 games.
2007-08-05 16:48:24
269.   underdog
The Dodgers need to just focus on themselves right now and not worry about the other teams. They'll play Cincy and St Louis, and have some games they should and need to win. Even if the DBax do well as expected against the Pirates and Nats (the Marlins could be tougher), they'll still lose a game or two here and there and the Dodgers can still chip away at the lead. But first they need to wake up from their slumber.
2007-08-05 16:59:13
270.   3upn3down
I was listening the the Baseball America podcast, and they mentioned that the dodgers acquired a prospect. I don't recall his name, but for some reason the name Howard sticks out. I believe they were saying we got him via a waiver pick up or something like that. They said it was note worthy because the guy is/had been a top 30 prospect on the top 100 list.

Sorry for the shabby details. I am training for an ironman and was listening while in the middle of a 4 hr bike ride, and my mind was already a bit punchy when the show came on.

anyone know the details?

2007-08-05 17:01:17
271.   Bob Timmermann
268
Don't the Diamondbacks have to chance to extend their lead anytime they win a game?
2007-08-05 17:10:29
272.   D4P
271
Should I call you Tom, Richard, or Kyle...?
2007-08-05 17:14:52
273.   Jon Weisman
270 - First name Moe?
2007-08-05 17:25:17
274.   Marty
You tryin to be funny?
2007-08-05 17:28:45
275.   JoeyP
271--Not if they have a higher liklihood of losing the ball games.

Easy schedule and the Dbax could pad their lead quite easily.

2007-08-05 17:40:58
276.   Billy Buck
Long time lurker, first time poster...
Having watched this team since the early 70's, I have never seen the outright cowardice displayed collectively by the manager and general manager that is on display now. It's long overdue for Colletti to march himself down to McCourt's office and say something to the effect of "Mr. McCourt, I'm sorry. I absolutely, positively blew it with the Pierre signing. I will do everything in my power to fix this with a trade or something creative, but in all honesty sir, if we really want to field our BEST team night after night, Juan Pierre's name will not be in the line-up".
Colletti will then walk down to Grady Little's office and tell the second half of the equation, "Look, you can stop lying to the press and fans, and sit Pierre down. Our three best outfielders are Gonzo, Kemp and Ethier, and they should be in the lineup every night. Pierre can spot start, occasionally pinch run, but enough is enough. To put him in the two hole every night and get nothing out of him offensively, and less defensively, is insulting to our fans and this organization."
Of course, neither Colletti or Little has the courage to do the right things, as is evident night after night after frigging night.
Thanks for allowing me to vent.
2007-08-05 18:08:21
277.   bluegold
269. This is not profound, but the Dodgers cannot catch up if they lose more than the division leader does. You cannot catch up if you continue to lose every series. Sorry, this team is not a contender. Dodger management has raised the white flag for this season by their action.
2007-08-05 18:31:54
278.   Sam DC
Everyone is aware that the Nationals have just swept Cincinnati and St. Louis?

And really, rend your garments over Juan Pierre as thoroughly as you like, but the Nationals are weaker than the Dodgers in, well, I'd guess every position on the field.

2007-08-05 18:35:06
279.   Bob Timmermann
275

But since there are no more interleague games left, the Dodgers and DBacks have relatively similar schedules. It's just a matter of when each team plays its opponents.

The top 4 teams in the NL West have all had periods of waxing and waning.

Are the DBacks chances of beating Pittsburgh marginally higher in one game than they are when they play the Mets? (They don't play the Mets again however.)

2007-08-05 18:36:58
280.   Bob Timmermann
The Cardinals are just 1/2 game better than the Nats.

The Nats are also just 1/2 game back of the Marlins.
And the Nats are playing the Giants. Who are worse than the Nats.

2007-08-05 18:37:15
281.   MJW101
276 Unfortunately, we only have TWO good OFers (Kemp & Ethier). Gonzo has been steadily declining towards Pierre/Nomar crapitude.

The team as a whole seems to be moving down hill. As much as it pains me to say - I doubt Ned can do much to change the situation.

Although, it would be nice if Ned promoted Meloan & LaRoche and DFAed Hernandez & Martinez (when Kent comes back).

Nomar could replace Martinez as the backup IF.

2007-08-05 18:38:26
282.   Sam DC
What about my other challenge -- is there a single position on the field from which the Nationals have gotten more production than the Dodgers?

Shortstop?

2007-08-05 18:46:03
283.   D4P
282
Nats have higher team OPS for

1B
3B
SS
CF

2007-08-05 18:49:33
284.   Sam DC
Well I'll be.

Time to find a new blog!

2007-08-05 18:54:10
285.   JoeyP
Are the Brewers going to be a powerhouse in the NL?

Ryan Braun hit his 20th HR this year. He's only had 262 Abs.

2007-08-05 18:55:22
286.   Bob Timmermann
The Nats have the advantage that Young has played a lot more than Loney. Zimmerman, despite an off year, has been better than the Dodgers third base duo of Betemit and Garciaparra.

I assume SS is in the lead because Guzman got injured so his lack of power no longer cancels out Furcal's lack of power.

If you want to decide between Nook Logan and Juan Pierre for center field, may God have mercy on your soul.

2007-08-05 18:56:56
287.   Bob Timmermann
285
All those home runs don't help if your team coughs up five-run leads in the ninth. Or blows six-run leads against a Cardinals team and got shut down by Brian Falkenborg, who was immediately DFAed after the game.
2007-08-05 18:58:52
288.   3upn3down
270273 Kevin Howard from the Reds farm system to the Dodgers for cash considerations.

I went back and listened to the podcast again.

2007-08-05 19:07:42
289.   Bob Timmermann
288
Kevin Howard was once traded for Tony Womack!
2007-08-05 19:10:06
290.   D4P
Kevin Howard was once traded for Tony Womack!

Then I guess the Reds won't be considering much cash...

2007-08-05 19:11:49
291.   Sam DC
286: I'll took Nook Logan plus $40 million dollars to spend over the next four years for $1,000 Alex!
2007-08-05 19:13:12
292.   Bob Timmermann
291
I believe using proper tenses trumps rhyming.
2007-08-05 19:19:46
293.   Sam DC
::hangs head in shame::

::marvels that you know that Nook rhymes with took::

::slinks off::

2007-08-05 19:26:52
294.   dzzrtRatt
Boy, let Bill Plaschke write a column about building for the future rather than trying to be a contender now, and suddenly, everyone's marching in the opposite direction.

The Dodgers are like every above-.500 team in baseball now except the Red Sox -- a flawed team capable of getting very hot, and capable of playing poorly for long stretches. Arizona has been very hot. But it was only a couple-three weeks ago when the Dodgers had more wins than any other team in the NL.

The mid-season trading deadline was quiet basically because no team wanted to give up anybody, because the talent is stretched so thin. Luis Castillo gets traded and Johan Santana translates that as the Twins surrendering. Luis Castillo!

We are cold. We played a hot team. We played them pretty tough, but in the end, we were crappy when it counted. But this is not a week that encapsulates the whole season, nor defines the Dodgers as non-contenders. In the NL, we've got as good a shot as anyone.

2007-08-05 19:28:55
295.   Bob Timmermann
293
I pay attention to Bob Carpenter!
2007-08-05 19:31:20
296.   Bob Timmermann
The Yankees are going to get rid of Mike Myers. Time for the Dodgers to pick up more Yankee detritus!
2007-08-05 19:42:20
297.   3upn3down
Betemit isn't wasting anytime making an impact in pin stripes.

His first start was at SS no less.

2007-08-05 19:56:59
298.   Sam DC
"Or," Kearns said, "I could just turn around and throw it as far as I can, out into the water. I've thought about that, too."

Interesting, though gimmicky, piece. http://tinyurl.com/2cvrwu

2007-08-05 20:09:42
299.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2007-08-05 20:12:02
300.   underdog
at least 1-2 months, so something's off on that report.
http://tinyurl.com/3d9ghc

And he came from the Yankees organization, after being with the Reds in the Tony Womack deal a long while ago. He Started the 2007 season with the Phillies minor league teams and then was picked up by the Dodgers at mid-season. I think BA was a little off. But anyway, it's cool to have some added depth in the infield.

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2007-08-05 20:12:48
301.   underdog
D'oh.
2007-08-05 20:13:19
302.   underdog
Weird, my post got cut off (by me, I guess) so I'll redo in the new thread...

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