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Get Well Soon?
2007-08-08 14:37
by Jon Weisman

In each of the next five games, the scheduled Dodger starting pitcher has a lower ERA than his opponent. Maybe we'll get to see Takashi Saito smile (more than once?) before the week is done:

Today: RHP Chad Billingsley (7-2, 3.43) vs. RHP Aaron Harang (10-3, 3.54)
Thursday: RHP Brett Tomko (2-9, 5.56) vs. LHP Phil Dumatrait (0-1, 16.20)
Friday: RHP Brad Penny (13-3, 2.66) vs. RHP Adam Wainwright (10-8, 4.53)
Saturday: RHP Derek Lowe (8-10, 3.58) vs. RHP Braden Looper (9-9, 5.25)
Sunday: LHP Mark Hendrickson (4-6, 4.63) vs. RHP Anthony Reyes (1-11, 5.66)

* * *

Tonight's 4:10 p.m. game:


Retro Gameday

Comments (359)
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2007-08-08 14:44:40
1.   D4P
Yellow? alert for Tulowitzki
2007-08-08 14:44:52
2.   fanerman
For a second, I thought the title of the post was, "Get Wells Soon," referring to David.
2007-08-08 14:49:04
3.   Vaudeville Villain
LAT'd response to 177 in the last thread:

It's also worth noting that San Diego is constructed very differently from our own team. They bring in and jettison the Morgan Ensbergs, Jerry Hairston, and Jose Cruz Junior's of the world, because they HAVE to. They don't have a worthwhile farm system, meaning that they have nothing worth trading to another team that doesn't effect the core of their team (their pitching), and they don't have the money to be spending on the high-priced free agents. I think their strategy is actually quite sound, bring in undervalued players like Cruz Jr., ride out their hot streaks, and then dump them for the next similar player when the hot streak is over with, hoping that the next guy you bring in is able to get hot.

2007-08-08 14:49:21
4.   Bob Timmermann
Yes, yellow alert for Tulowitzki. Going for a cycle and an unassisted triple in one year!
2007-08-08 14:50:07
5.   underdog
The Tomko-Dumatrait match-up should be one for the ages.
2007-08-08 14:50:36
6.   Joshua Worley
I think Hendrickson had a lower ERA than Arroyo before last night, hard as that is to believe!
2007-08-08 14:53:09
7.   fanerman
I realize LAT involves having a message in one thread unread because a new post was created (right?), but what does it stand for?
2007-08-08 14:54:49
8.   Jon Weisman
4 - I could see Bengie Molina getting an assisted triple.
2007-08-08 14:55:07
9.   Joshua Worley
It's named after the poster LAT, I think.
2007-08-08 14:56:57
10.   Sammy Maudlin
Happy 71st birthday to old friend Frank Howard!
2007-08-08 14:57:21
11.   Joshua Worley

I once saw an old Bill Buckner get an assisted inside the park home run when an outfielder tumbled over the wall trying to catch his fly ball. The outfielder was hurt in the stands, and the ball stayed in the park. By the time the center fielder got over, an old and slow Buckner had come all the way around!

2007-08-08 14:58:08
12.   Jon Weisman
Herges has a chance for the save, with the Rockies leading 19-4 in the eighth.
2007-08-08 14:59:43
13.   weatherman
12 - Now THAT's funny.
2007-08-08 15:03:42
14.   Bob Timmermann
Herges got a 4-inning save in 2000 for the Dodgers.

2007-08-08 15:04:36
15.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled.

Stand down.

2007-08-08 15:04:42
16.   Humma Kavula
14 The three-plus-inning save... otherwise known as... the Jae Seo?
2007-08-08 15:05:39
17.   Jon Weisman
Not to be today.
2007-08-08 15:06:04
18.   Bob Timmermann
That hurts.

That really hurts.

2007-08-08 15:07:09
19.   Jon Weisman
A victory here puts the Rockies ahead of the Brewers and Dodgers in winning percentage.
2007-08-08 15:07:52
20.   D4P
Jae it isn't Seo...
2007-08-08 15:09:32
21.   Daniel Zappala
20 That would be funnier if you had a boatload of kids.
2007-08-08 15:11:33
22.   Humma Kavula
18 I'm not a nice person, no matter what Mrs. Kavula will tell you.
2007-08-08 15:16:28
23.   D4P
If I had an Etienne, I bet he would have liked that one. He would be the one who likes a good pun.
2007-08-08 15:17:20
24.   ToyCannon
Bob, when was the last time the Angels swept the Red Sox at home?
2007-08-08 15:19:37
25.   D4P
Colorado now has the 5th best record in the NL.
2007-08-08 15:28:25
26.   fan 4 40 plus
In Florida t-minus 9 minutes and counting for Endeavor launch
2007-08-08 15:31:04
27.   bhsportsguy
24 Not Bob but per Angel's 2007 Media Guide (BTW, have not checked every Official team site but the Angels and Dodgers both have their media guides available via PDF form under the "Fan Forum" tab.), the answer is April 6th - 8th, 1998.
2007-08-08 15:31:24
28.   fan 4 40 plus
to be young again ... Zack Hample on Fresh Air today
2007-08-08 15:34:56
29.   fan 4 40 plus
26 you can watch at
2007-08-08 15:35:20
30.   ToyCannon
2007-08-08 15:42:30
31.   D4P
Ned must be baffled when this lineup doesn't score runs.

Batting averages:

2007-08-08 15:46:43
32.   fan 4 40 plus
26 we now have a teacher in space ...
2007-08-08 15:53:54
33.   Vaudeville Villain

Just to follow up, OPS numbers for our players who get significant playing time:

Furcal .714
Juan Pierre .652
Russell Martin .831
Jeff Kent .891 (!)
Luis Gonzalez .789
Nomar Garciaparra .691
James Loney .858
Andre Ethier .825
Matt Kemp .883

That's actually not bad, if you discount the black holes at 3rd and CF.

Betemit is at .834.

2007-08-08 15:55:59
34.   Bob Timmermann
I was still in college when the Challenger exploded.

I was sitting in the Dickson Auditorium waiting for class to start when someone told me. That was 1/29/1986.

Hmm. Winter quarter of my junior year. I wonder what class that was.

2007-08-08 15:59:51
35.   Bob Timmermann
The Red Sox are 12-27 all time in games at Dodger Stadium.
2007-08-08 16:01:11
36.   Hythloday
I was in 4th grade at 3rd Street Elementary School. I know what class I was in. Course scheduling was easier in elementary school.
2007-08-08 16:05:40
37.   Humma Kavula
I was in 6th grade.

At the same time, Voyager II (I think) was passing Neptune (I think) and sending back the most detailed pictures of the planet to date. That was the story I'd been following.

So when a kid passed me in the hall and said, "Did you hear? The space shuttle blew up just after launch," I, confused, said, "No, it didn't. I just read about it in the paper this morning." He ignored me.

2007-08-08 16:06:53
38.   D4P
I was in 6th grade

Me too! English class.

2007-08-08 16:10:21
39.   Humma Kavula
37 OK, it wasn't Neptune. It was Uranus. Thank you, Wikipedia.
2007-08-08 16:12:11
40.   D4P
Pierre took 2 pitches. I guess he's in Leadoff mode.
2007-08-08 16:17:48
41.   Gen3Blue
Just got here. What the heck? Pierre must have led off cause there was an out when Furcal came up. How many pitches did Pierre see?
I am afraid this pitcher is not hurting from his bad back, and if not, he is the most effective pitcher the D's have see3n in a while. Still, they have to break this slump sometime.
2007-08-08 16:19:16
42.   Curtis Lowe
41 - You do not break the slump, the slump breaks you.
2007-08-08 16:20:32
43.   underdog
Scott Hatteberg, leadoff hitter?
2007-08-08 16:25:36
44.   Zak
Hi Jon. To respond to your comment from the last thread, I am 30 years old. Sorry to you and ToyCannon for bringing the word agist into the discussion. It was out of place.

I stand by my origninal point though.. not giving Maddux a two year deal whereas giving Nomar a two year deal did not have anything to do with their ages. Also, I don't agree with the implication that you can't compare the fitness/health (I think) of a 34 year old IF against a 41 year old SP because the 34 year old IF is a better health risk.

Once again, sorry for the A word.

2007-08-08 16:27:27
45.   underdog
Niiiice pitch from Chad to strike out Phillips.
2007-08-08 16:28:07
46.   Curtis Lowe
Rats no mo no hitter for Billz.
2007-08-08 16:29:08
47.   das411
I had just turned 15 months old when Challenger was destroyed. Makes every launch, even ones as perfect as today's, that much more intense to watch...
2007-08-08 16:30:51
48.   silverwidow
Colletti is watching McDonald pitch right now. He had a perfect 1st inning.
2007-08-08 16:33:17
49.   Curtis Lowe
48 - Hopefully he gives off the aura of a man twice his age.
2007-08-08 16:34:16
50.   Xeifrank
I was sitting in the Isla Vista theater (UCSB) in my Macro Econ class, when my British professor made the announcement, then went on with his lecture as if nothing happened. vr, Xei
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2007-08-08 16:34:55
51.   Bob Timmermann
Note in the AP story for the Brewers-Rockies game:

Former Brewer Greg Brock, an area high school baseball coach, was a pregame guest of the team.

2007-08-08 16:34:57
52.   MJW101
44 I think Maddux having Bora$$ as his agent had more to do with not giving him a 2 year contract than age. Ned LIKES old vets.

BTW - Nomar plays like a 42 year old hitter (not named Bonds).

2007-08-08 16:35:36
53.   Xeifrank
45% win expectancy... about right where the pre-game WE put it. Need to score some runs, don't ya think!! vr, Xei
2007-08-08 16:36:46
54.   Bob Timmermann
Xeifrank, the Griddler script put the 7th place Rockies in the #4 slot even though they don't belong there.
2007-08-08 16:38:56
55.   scareduck
Wow, just got wind of that stomping the Rocks put on the Brewers. Make it a good one, Bills, and let's hope the Dodgers find their bats on this night (over there).
2007-08-08 16:39:16
56.   FirstMohican
I Bills as wild at GameDay makes him out to be?
2007-08-08 16:39:28
57.   WillieD
51 Greg Brock went to high school in the same small town I did. Different high school, however. I never knew him.
2007-08-08 16:41:08
58.   scareduck
50 - I was in the CSULB student union at the time, and there was a huge crowd sitting and/or standing around the big screen TV they had there. The picture of the Challenger exploding -- which CNN kept replaying -- was just jaw-dropping. It was almost like a funeral, people were whispering.
2007-08-08 16:43:24
59.   Daniel Zappala
Are we talking about Greg Brock or Greg Brock? You people with your fake names and fake kids are confusing.
2007-08-08 16:43:28
60.   Xeifrank
54. I guess the script was impressed with their win today and moved them up in BCS fashion. :) I will take a look at it later tonight after the 3-year old goes to bed, if I still have any energy leftover. Thanks for the update.
vr, Xei
2007-08-08 16:46:02
61.   bhsportsguy
59 The real Greg Brock, the DT Greg Brock went to school in the South Bay, Torrance I believe, which has never been described (at least to me) as a small town.
2007-08-08 16:47:01
62.   Daniel Zappala
61 I need to learn to put :-) after my jokes.
2007-08-08 16:47:51
63.   Bob Timmermann
I'm quite disappointed in the tech support I'm getting for this product! I paid good money for that script! ;-)

Where's my receipt?

2007-08-08 16:48:07
64.   bhsportsguy
2 notes from the Yankee game, Wilson started at 3B today and Bobby Abreu threw out Geoff Zahn at 1B.
2007-08-08 16:48:22
65.   underdog
Wow. And here I thought Loney had ripped that one, when he'd actually blooped it. And here I thought that meant it would fall in, but, no. Just can't buy a break.
2007-08-08 16:49:00
66.   Telemachos
Man, according to Gameday, Kemp is getting burned on those outside calls again.
2007-08-08 16:49:17
67.   Bob Timmermann
Geoff Zahn is 61 years old. I'm surprised the play was close.
2007-08-08 16:50:07
68.   MMSMikey
can we please get a baserunner
2007-08-08 16:50:18
69.   FirstMohican
66 - Yeah really. Anyone watching this think the Ump's being a bit liberal today w/ the zone?
2007-08-08 16:51:27
70.   ToyCannon
This is the kind of game you could see something interesting happen with our lack of offense against a good pitcher.
2007-08-08 16:52:53
71.   ToyCannon
Randy Wolf's old coach at Pepperdine making a comeback???
2007-08-08 16:53:37
72.   Bob Timmermann
bhsportsguy was channeling Vin there.
2007-08-08 16:53:47
73.   Monterey Chris
It appears we have solved our problem of leaving too many people on base!
2007-08-08 16:55:18
74.   Bob Timmermann
Norris looks nothing like his uncle Edward.
2007-08-08 16:55:27
75.   WillieD
61 Yes, the real Brock. One of those guys I always had higher hopes for. A bit like Willie Crawford in that regard. Although I really figured Crawford would be a big star for us. He did have his moments.
2007-08-08 16:55:57
76.   Xeifrank
73. haha! vr, Xei
2007-08-08 16:56:00
77.   Bob Timmermann
Willie Crawford's moments were always just that.


2007-08-08 16:56:16
78.   bhsportsguy
72 Oops, I meant Gregg Zahn.

That's the only time my "name" and Vin's will be in the same sentence.

2007-08-08 16:57:03
79.   scareduck
61 - although it played one on TV in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. (I believe Torrance High was used as Sunnydale High.)
2007-08-08 16:57:33
80.   Bob Timmermann
And with that run by the Reds, Tony Jackson has officially given up on the Dodgers season and is proceeding to hang himself by his shoelaces in the press box.
2007-08-08 16:58:39
81.   scareduck
80 - amazing the number of local sportswriters who have taken the fall this year. One of the Angels guys working for the Times called it a season about a month ago.
2007-08-08 16:59:35
82.   bhsportsguy
McDonald doing his best to impress, through 3 innings, has faced only 10 batters, no hits, 2 strikeouts and 5 groundball outs.
2007-08-08 17:00:01
83.   Xeifrank
Win expectancy down to 33%, and of course if we don't get any base runners the number drops a tad. vr, Xei
2007-08-08 17:00:20
84.   bhsportsguy
81 Old sportswriters go to Yahoo Sports.
2007-08-08 17:01:07
85.   scareduck
84 - what does that make Plaschke?
2007-08-08 17:02:25
86.   gibsonhobbs88
Will the Dodgers score before the end of August? Inning streak since 8th inning Saturday - 22 innings since our last run.

Talk about a team hitting rock bottom offensively!!
I actually feel real pity for any pitcher taking the mound in Dodger blue right now. He has no chance!!

2007-08-08 17:02:40
87.   Bob Timmermann
Plaschke is Mitch Albom after taxes.

(That is not meant as a compliment.)

2007-08-08 17:03:31
88.   natepurcell
I wonder why Billingsley has scrapped his slider this year.
2007-08-08 17:06:47
89.   Telemachos
Pierre's not hanging around much these days.
2007-08-08 17:06:47
90.   gibsonhobbs88
Or maybe there is no bottom - they are plummeting down the bottomless pit - possible 4th place tonight with a loss!!

Are we going to go like 3-25 in August, sure looks that way the way they "are not hitting".

2007-08-08 17:06:53
91.   MMSMikey
what was that that furcal just did?
2007-08-08 17:07:46
92.   Humma Kavula
I am so glad that this game is no longer interesting.
2007-08-08 17:08:38
93.   Icaros
Russell has adopted the Piazza facial hair look, I see.
2007-08-08 17:08:50
94.   Humma Kavula
hey now!
2007-08-08 17:09:04
95.   natepurcell
we have to score here. Its not bases loaded and our best hitter is up!
2007-08-08 17:09:14
96.   FirstMohican
In play, no out? What the heck?
2007-08-08 17:09:15
97.   Daniel Zappala
70 You jinxed it. Thank you.
2007-08-08 17:09:21
98.   CanuckDodger
88 -- Is Chad throwing the cut fastball? I think that replaced his slider. The two pitches are similar enough that if you throw one you aren't going to throw the other.
2007-08-08 17:09:27
99.   Telemachos
C'mon Kent, show the kids how it's done!
2007-08-08 17:09:52
100.   Nagman
The pressure Kent must be feeling to come through.
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2007-08-08 17:10:06
101.   scareduck
86 - you have no chance to survive, make your time. Ha ha, hahahaha.
2007-08-08 17:11:05
102.   natepurcell
2007-08-08 17:11:24
103.   Icaros
Kent with a Mondesi special.
2007-08-08 17:11:54
104.   natepurcell

yea, he is still throwing the cutter, mixing in some 2 seamers and change ups as well.

2007-08-08 17:13:23
105.   Telemachos
I guess Kent did show them how it's done. Perhaps I should've been more specific.
2007-08-08 17:13:36
106.   natepurcell
Haha, I can't even get mad. This is just so ridiculous.
2007-08-08 17:13:37
107.   Humma Kavula
oh. come. on.
2007-08-08 17:13:51
108.   FirstMohican
This is excruciating
2007-08-08 17:13:52
109.   Icaros
Billingsley must have a weak slider if it can be replaced by a cut fastball.

Or a really awesome cut fastball.

2007-08-08 17:14:10
110.   MMSMikey
that brooklyn dodgers thing is on HBO right now, about time to switch to that.
2007-08-08 17:16:41
111.   natepurcell
Wow, that ball went a lot farther then I thought.
2007-08-08 17:17:17
112.   bhsportsguy
Kent was 6 for 16 with a double and 2 home runs and only one strikeout against Harang until today.
2007-08-08 17:17:43
113.   Gen3Blue
I find my only happiness at this point in thinking Bills is going to be a real good one.
2007-08-08 17:19:13
114.   Gen3Blue
I guess it's no surprise the D's have so few hits at this point. Suddenly every outing is a potential shutout.
2007-08-08 17:19:53
115.   fan 4 40 plus
how wild are those pitches??
2007-08-08 17:20:05
116.   Telemachos
Oh dear, 2 wild pitches to the same batter? Calm down, Chad.
2007-08-08 17:21:01
117.   FirstMohican
Anyone wanna give Wells a shot? Padres are apparently done w/ him.
2007-08-08 17:23:00
118.   nofatmike
Chad is beginning to remind me of Gagne circa 2000 with his inconsistent starts.
2007-08-08 17:23:16
119.   Curtis Lowe
This whole Jekyll Hyde Billingsley has got to stop.

McCourt should hire Jack Bauer to come talk to the team and find out what is wrong with everybody.

2007-08-08 17:25:16
120.   Bob Timmermann
Uh oh, the "c" word has been brought up.
2007-08-08 17:27:33
121.   Gen3Blue
I have been to the west coast. When the Challenger blew I had walked to a convenience store in Ventura, I was spending three weeks at my new Mother-in-Laws.
2007-08-08 17:27:40
122.   scareduck
120 - "colitis"?
2007-08-08 17:30:21
123.   Zak

don't even joke about that.

2007-08-08 17:30:28
124.   scareduck
117 - Wells probably needs a shot of stanolozol.
2007-08-08 17:30:33
125.   Humma Kavula
He got out of it.
2007-08-08 17:31:07
126.   Telemachos
If nothing else, Chad is learning to pitch out of jams, I guess.
2007-08-08 17:31:12
127.   Zak
getting out of that inning unharmed feels like a win. hopefully it'll add a spring to their steps.
2007-08-08 17:31:34
128.   scareduck
118 - Is it better to be random, like Billingsley, or predictable, like Ervin Santana?
2007-08-08 17:31:50
129.   natepurcell
that first pitch slider for a strike set up that whole AB. Hitters were just sitting on his fastball since he hadn't thrown a breaking pitch for a strike since the 2nd inning.
2007-08-08 17:32:00
130.   JoeyP
Billingsley's probably going to drop 10 pounds after this start tonight.

97 degrees, and he's thrown 82 pitches through 4ip.

2007-08-08 17:32:03
131.   Bob Timmermann
Didn't he learn that last year?
2007-08-08 17:32:12
132.   Curtis Lowe
Good job by Bills there recovering from the 7,8 hitters of doom and dominating the top o' da order.
2007-08-08 17:33:43
133.   nofatmike
128. Neither, I'd just like to see a good performance followed by another good performance.
2007-08-08 17:33:49
134.   silverwidow
James McDonald is having another great start. I say bring him up.
2007-08-08 17:35:09
135.   natepurcell
Loney gets two hits taken away on nice plays.
2007-08-08 17:36:37
137.   Telemachos
Meanwhile, another really sketchy outside strike called on Kemp.

C'mon Bison! Your moment to shine!

2007-08-08 17:37:22
138.   Telemachos
That "ball" was called a "strike" just a moment ago.
2007-08-08 17:38:24
140.   MMSMikey
clearly outside.
2007-08-08 17:38:28
141.   Icaros
That is outside! Jesus.
2007-08-08 17:38:35
142.   natepurcell
Umpires don't like rookie players.
2007-08-08 17:38:50
143.   Curtis Lowe
Ummm that was way off the plate
2007-08-08 17:39:01
144.   Telemachos
2007-08-08 17:39:25
145.   Curtis Lowe
That better not affect his approach.
2007-08-08 17:39:28
146.   natepurcell
I feel bad for Matt. He is being punished for showing good discipline.
2007-08-08 17:39:41
147.   JoeyP
Gameday is showing the called strikes to Kemp as way off the plate.

Of course, batting Kemp 8th and Pierre 1st is just um. Well. Yeah.

2007-08-08 17:39:52
148.   Icaros
Yet crap gets thrown right down the middle to Bonds and it's never a strike if he doesn't swing.
2007-08-08 17:40:03
149.   ucladodger
The curse of Matt Kemp continues. I dont understand as an umpire how you can call a straight fastball clearly outside a strike. Its the easiest pitch in baseball to call.
2007-08-08 17:40:28
150.   natepurcell
Miller in for McDonald. I wonder why he only went 5 when it looked like he was absolutely cruising.
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2007-08-08 17:40:32
151.   Telemachos
Not that it matters to this game, but does baseball offer a way for a team to submit evidence of crappy calls (either a play or balls/strikes)? I'm thinking something along the lines of what the NFL has in place.
2007-08-08 17:40:33
152.   Curtis Lowe
Bring in the robots!
2007-08-08 17:40:38
153.   overkill94
Between being out of town so much and how crappy we've been playing, I haven't had the heart to check in.

But that strike three to Bison was clearly outside.

2007-08-08 17:41:07
154.   Telemachos
According to Gameday, strike 1 to Billingsley was also quite a bit outside.
2007-08-08 17:41:23
155.   Icaros
Why doesn't Grady get off his can and at least get kicked out? These calls are horrible.
2007-08-08 17:41:25
156.   ucladodger

I really do think all fo these calls are getting to Kemp. He hasnt had a thing go his way in the last 3 weeks. When you cant get a fair shake of it from the umps, and you are struggling, have lost your timing by not playing everyday, there is no question in my mind that he is pressing.

2007-08-08 17:41:38
157.   Megaballs
I think GMs sometimes make trades at the deadline to mix things up, infuse new blood, shake things up.
Since the deadlines done, a rook or two may pick the team up if they come in and get some success...
That's what this team is dying for...IMO.
2007-08-08 17:41:50
158.   bhsportsguy
150 Perhaps to give Ned a view of the guys in AA. McDonald had given up only 2 hits and faced only one batter over the minimum.
2007-08-08 17:42:26
159.   scareduck
I wonder if anybody has done a study on the effects of heat+humidity on umpires' strike zones.
2007-08-08 17:43:42
160.   Telemachos
Thank you, Brandon Phillips. That helps.
2007-08-08 17:44:43
161.   ucladodger
Nice that bills cant get the same call on the other side of the plate...
2007-08-08 17:45:10
162.   Telemachos
I guess those called strikes to Dunn are make-up calls. They're outside too.
2007-08-08 17:46:24
163.   Icaros

I disagree. That ball 4 to Dunn was better than the strike 3 to Kemp.

2007-08-08 17:47:41
164.   Icaros
Kent might have a second career as an NFL wideout.
2007-08-08 17:49:35
165.   Curtis Lowe
That 3rd pitch to A.Gonzo was such a strike.
2007-08-08 17:51:51
166.   Eric Enders
164 Because the NFL is always on the lookout for slow white guys with bad hands to play wideout.

It was a nice catch, though.

2007-08-08 17:52:26
167.   Gen3Blue
I think Kemp needs some playing time before he will become effective. The Umps can't keep making mistakes on someone who plays a lot. He needs several weeks w/30 ab's a week. If they won't use him they should play him at Vegas, where several of our vets should be (and I'm pretty sure they would pass waivers)
2007-08-08 17:53:23
168.   Humma Kavula
"If you were to name the top three or four bunters in the National League, I don't think Pierre's name would be there."

- Rick Monday

2007-08-08 17:53:25
169.   jujibee
Someone should've asked this question to Ned yesterday:

How does moving Greg Miller from starter to reliever to starter to reliever to closer to reliever to starter and back to reliever help him develop consistancy?

2007-08-08 17:53:44
170.   Icaros

I was just referring to the fact that I've seen him make two of those catches this season.

Sorry for offending you.

2007-08-08 17:54:23
172.   Eric Enders
If you were to name the top three or four hundred bunters in the National League, I don't think Pierre's name would be there.

- E. Enders

2007-08-08 17:55:14
173.   MMSMikey
great inning, guys.
2007-08-08 17:55:15
174.   Eric Enders
170 Who said anything about offending anybody? Sheesh.
2007-08-08 17:55:19
175.   Gen3Blue
Of course, my sound is off at this point, but I swear I glanced at the screen by mistake for 1/4 of a second, and saw the patented trot of JP returning to the dugout after an out. Please tell me I'm wrong.
2007-08-08 17:57:07
176.   bhsportsguy
167 I know you are venting but players with over 5 years MLB service time regardless of their option status cannot be sent to the minorw without their consent (excluding rehab assignments).
2007-08-08 17:57:34
177.   Telemachos
163, 165 My Gameday didn't refresh to show ball 4 to Dunn. But clearly there have been some astonishingly bad calls today.

So, does Chad come out to pitch the sixth? He's at 98 pitches right now. A quick, easy inning would be nice, for once. (And if I were the Reds I wouldn't swing at anything).

2007-08-08 17:57:54
178.   regfairfield
So, what were you guys doing the last time the Dodgers scored a run?
2007-08-08 17:58:02
179.   D4P
Enter the Secret Weapon...!
2007-08-08 17:59:34
180.   Icaros

Okay, it looked like you thought I really meant that or something, which made no sense to me. No worries.

I guess 127 consecutive scoreless innings has put me on edge.

2007-08-08 17:59:54
181.   Telemachos
Great catch by Kemp, or was it just a deep flyball?
2007-08-08 18:00:00
182.   Curtis Lowe
178 - Ordering a beer at Tubbys and actually thought they might pull off a come back. Instead they lost 3 in row.
2007-08-08 18:01:09
183.   Humma Kavula
178 Sitting in a hot tub.
2007-08-08 18:02:58
184.   Icaros
We should start a pool to guess how the Dodgers will score their first run this decade
2007-08-08 18:03:07
185.   Icaros
2007-08-08 18:04:21
186.   still bevens
That Carl's Jr. commercial with the mooks licking the cups is highly disturbing. And not in a moderately funny way. Its mostly stupid and gross.
2007-08-08 18:05:05
187.   Humma Kavula
I don't know about this decade, but the Dodgers will score their next run in the following fashion:

Pierre infield single
Pierre nearly picked off first, but safe at second
Pierre advances to third on a Martin groundout
Pierre scores on a Kent sac fly

2007-08-08 18:05:15
188.   Eric Enders
181 Just a deep fly ball. Routine play.

Reds announcer Jeff Brantley has a big-time mancrush on Kemp, especially considering that Kemp has struck out in every at-bat he's had against the Reds in his career.

2007-08-08 18:06:52
189.   Gen3Blue
Hey, this proctor is doing OK. By the way, why is the Dr. who deals with the rectum and colon called a proctologist. That doesn't seem to make sense.(Although it figures in many jokes about collective nouns, it really is illogical)
2007-08-08 18:06:58
190.   Eric Enders
That was another routine fly to right, but I guess Griffey wanted to get on SportsCenter with that unnecessary jump.
2007-08-08 18:07:21
191.   Sam DC
It's funny, there was a time a month or so ago, when I was telling my Nationals' friends (yes, I have them), that with the frosh/soph core coming together getting real PT, with Penny and Lowe two of the best pitchers in the league, with Saito a continuing revelation, that I couldn't remember a funner time to be a Dodger fan.
2007-08-08 18:07:41
192.   Icaros
So that's considered a great play by Griffey? How about if he stops running after he gets to the spot where the ball is going to land?

He won't even have to jump that way.

2007-08-08 18:09:22
193.   bhsportsguy
191 I think it was the rare moment when the rotation was Lowe, Penny, Wolf, Kuo and Chad and then you had Loney and Kemp in LA.

That moment ended when Kuo and Wolf went down.

2007-08-08 18:09:29
194.   Icaros
Eric, let's just hop in the cage and fight it out right now. :-)
2007-08-08 18:09:36
195.   Zak
192 Whoa! You just blew my mind.

- Cosmo Kramer

2007-08-08 18:09:56
196.   Gen3Blue
187 You are right that it might not happen this decade the way things are going. Last years losing streak I remember as wacky games where we would get beat 9-5, but this is new ground, never scoring a run no matter what.
2007-08-08 18:10:52
197.   D4P
The Dodger scoreless streak is reaching AC Green proportions.
2007-08-08 18:11:52
198.   Icaros
Haha. Now it'll rain out the last two innings and we lose.
2007-08-08 18:12:47
199.   Billy Buck
Well done, Grady- you're about to fall 5+ games out of first, missing the playoffs is very possible (at this juncture, likely) and you may very well finish below .500, but at least you're keeping Juan Pierre's consecutive game streak alive. I, for one, am EXTREMELY proud of you and your courage to do the right thing.
2007-08-08 18:13:50
200.   regfairfield
199 Something tells me Luis Gonzalez wasn't going to be the man to pull the Dodgers out of their funk.
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2007-08-08 18:14:47
201.   ssjames
197 is the thing that I have laughed the hardest at of all the comments I have ever read here. Bravo.
2007-08-08 18:14:52
202.   overkill94
I honestly can't remember the last time I saw the Dodgers score a run.

Today - watching the whole time (0 runs)
Yesterday - watched the whole thing (0 runs)
Sunday - out of town (didn't score anyway)
Saturday - out of town (scored 7, but I wasn't watching)
Friday - watched the whole thing when I wasn't taking a nap (0 runs)

Okay, now that I go back and look, it was obviously Thursday's game where I last saw them score considering I was at the game.

2007-08-08 18:15:25
203.   Icaros

Are you suggesting that they are not scoring on purpose?

2007-08-08 18:15:52
204.   Sam DC
Carlos Zambrano batting in Houston with the bases loaded.
2007-08-08 18:16:34
205.   Gen3Blue
Wow, its a good thing we made 3Mil man Muellar our hitting coach when we did.
2007-08-08 18:18:26
206.   Eric Enders
205 Has anybody run the Mueller vs Murray stats recently?
2007-08-08 18:18:30
207.   Sam DC
204: Backwards K. That's no fun.
2007-08-08 18:18:56
208.   Bob Timmermann
In 1966, the Dodgers had a 30-inning scoreless streak against Dick Ellsworth, Bob Hendley, and Ken Holtzman of the Cubs.

Their next game was against the Cardinals and Bob Gibson was starting.

The Dodgers scored four times in the first inning.

2007-08-08 18:18:58
209.   D4P
Are you suggesting that they are not scoring on purpose?

They're waiting until they get a ring

2007-08-08 18:19:56
210.   bhsportsguy
202 Same goes for me too. Though on Saturday night, I was at a friend's house and the game was not being shown (kids watching DVD).
2007-08-08 18:20:52
211.   Eric Enders
C'mon, Loney, get with the program. We said no runs.
2007-08-08 18:21:11
212.   old dodger fan
208 How many consecutive scoreless innings did we have in the '66 WS?
2007-08-08 18:21:34
213.   natepurcell


2007-08-08 18:21:44
214.   Humma Kavula
oh for pete's sake.
2007-08-08 18:22:03
215.   Bob Timmermann
2007-08-08 18:22:19
216.   Eric Enders
That looked like a trap to the naked eye.
2007-08-08 18:22:32
217.   Curtis Lowe


2007-08-08 18:23:09
218.   D4P
Does lining into a DP count as a GIDP...?
2007-08-08 18:23:29
219.   Johnson
At least Kemp has now done something other than strike out against the Reds.
2007-08-08 18:23:29
220.   old dodger fan
Where is Boom Boom when you need him?
2007-08-08 18:23:31
221.   Icaros
At least now I know for sure there is no God.
2007-08-08 18:23:57
222.   natepurcell

well, lining a ball is different then "grounding" a ball. You make the call.

2007-08-08 18:23:58
223.   Bob Timmermann
Still a ways to go to get to the Cubs NL record of 48 consecutive scoreless innings.
2007-08-08 18:24:42
225.   Bob Timmermann
Pete Mackanin is young? He's 56 years old! Sorry, that doesn't make it as young unless you're Eubie Blake.
2007-08-08 18:24:49
226.   Curtis Lowe
220 - Boom boom just pitched 2 scoreless innings.

Scotty "Boom Boom" Proctor.

2007-08-08 18:24:59
227.   regfairfield
On the bright side, Harang probably won't get a complete game.
2007-08-08 18:25:10
228.   old dodger fan
It is time for JP's annual home run.
2007-08-08 18:25:31
229.   Humma Kavula
221 But do you believe that past events, plus the laws of nature, determine all future events?
2007-08-08 18:25:32
230.   Bob Timmermann
There is a reason why the stat is called "Grounding into double play."

The title of it is not ironic.

2007-08-08 18:25:46
232.   Kingmans Performance
we just can't get a break.
2007-08-08 18:25:46
233.   WillieD
How many breaks can we not get?!! On a brighter note, I love the evenings when the coed frisbee team practices outside my window. Yeah, the joys of summer.
2007-08-08 18:27:30
235.   Eric Enders
Careful. If we complain about not getting a break, the Dodgers will get one in the form of a fracture.
2007-08-08 18:27:47
236.   Curtis Lowe
I have not and will not score until the Dodgers do!
2007-08-08 18:28:14
237.   regfairfield
Furcal/Martin/Kent against some likely terrible reliever seems like a good way to break the streak.
2007-08-08 18:28:31
238.   Telemachos
I think Pierre's seen 9 pitches tonight.

Hatteberg saw 9 his first plate appearance (IIRC).

But it's that sort of game (again).

2007-08-08 18:28:38
240.   Icaros
I love these commercials for in Ohio, the online dating service for farmers.

"City folk just don't get it."

2007-08-08 18:29:02
241.   bhsportsguy
223 My first guess is that happened during the first decade of the 20th Century but the Cubs were the best team in baseball at that time.

So I'm shooting for the 1940's.

2007-08-08 18:29:13
242.   Bob Timmermann
The Cubs had their 48-inning scoreless streak in 1968. They didn't in the last 8 innings of a game in Atlanta which they lost 3-2 in 10. Then they were shut out 1-0 by the Braves in 11. Then they were shut out three straight by the Cardinals in St. Louis. Then they finally got a run in the third at Cincinnati on a sac fly from Billy Williams.

They finished in third place that year.

2007-08-08 18:29:36
243.   Gen3Blue
Loney didn't get in fron second? I surrender.
2007-08-08 18:30:33
244.   Kingmans Performance
239 that's an 18 year curse, when will it end?
2007-08-08 18:30:44
245.   bhsportsguy
242 Darn it, I thought it could be that year but those teams had Banks, Santo, Williams, et. al.
2007-08-08 18:31:25
246.   Gen3Blue
Well our bull-pen needs some work. Since Brox and Saito usually pitch in winning situations, they must be about a month rusty.
2007-08-08 18:31:40
247.   Bob Timmermann
The AL record is also 48 innings, but it was done in 1906 by the Philadelphia A's. They finished fourth.
2007-08-08 18:32:00
248.   Sam in SC
240 - I was just noticing that, too.

is that a gag? is it a club downtown, or something?

2007-08-08 18:32:45
249.   Gen3Blue
I think Tomato is paste.
2007-08-08 18:33:02
250.   D4P
The stage is set for a dramatic homerun in the top of the 9th
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2007-08-08 18:33:32
251.   Eric Enders
Wow. That was inches from ending Broxton's streak.
2007-08-08 18:33:44
252.   Bob Timmermann
I believe is what you think:

2007-08-08 18:34:07
253.   Icaros

No, I think it's legit...and hilarious. They were running a list of recently married couples who met through the service last inning.

2007-08-08 18:36:09
254.   Telemachos

As good a threat as the Dodgers've got right now.

2007-08-08 18:36:37
255.   Eric Enders
I wonder what the Dodger record is for most consecutive 1-0 losses by one pitcher. At least that'll give Chad something to shoot for next time out.
2007-08-08 18:37:10
256.   Humma Kavula
Please. Everybody. Please. Stop. Bunting.
2007-08-08 18:37:39
257.   bhsportsguy
255 Probably Drysdale or someone in the Sixties.
2007-08-08 18:39:20
258.   Eric Enders
That was a meatball. Good Russell hits that pitch out. Bad Russell popped it up.
2007-08-08 18:39:30
259.   Humma Kavula
Well... that's it.
2007-08-08 18:39:40
260.   Kingmans Performance
just pitiful.
2007-08-08 18:39:43
261.   natepurcell
2007-08-08 18:39:46
262.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
Those on this board who were afraid to death we'd trade some prospects for Teixeira: please notify the rest of us when you have a change of heart.
2007-08-08 18:39:59
263.   Telemachos
Geez, at least they didn't bother prolonging the agony.
2007-08-08 18:40:10
264.   Humma Kavula
28 scoreless innings. Let's try this again tomorrow.
2007-08-08 18:40:10
265.   Curtis Lowe
2007-08-08 18:40:31
266.   regfairfield
Well, I guess no one can.
2007-08-08 18:40:36
267.   Lexinthedena
Eddie Murray is laughing it up....
2007-08-08 18:40:55
268.   MMSMikey
2007-08-08 18:41:16
269.   MMSMikey
4th place
2007-08-08 18:41:18
270.   Icaros

Will do. Won't happen. But thanks.

2007-08-08 18:41:25
271.   Eric Enders
267 Eddie Murray can laugh?
2007-08-08 18:41:26
272.   Humma Kavula
Jeff Kent's on-base streak ends.
2007-08-08 18:41:33
273.   old dodger fan
264 We'll keep doing it until we get it right.
2007-08-08 18:41:47
274.   Telemachos
262 I'll take the short-term pain of losing versus the long-term pain of giving up kids + not signing Teixeira as a free agent.
2007-08-08 18:42:14
275.   bhsportsguy
262 One player, outside perhaps the 1921 version of Babe Ruth, was not going to make this team a better offensive team.
2007-08-08 18:42:43
276.   regfairfield
262 I'd much rather enjoy the next five years than get three extra runs over the last week.
2007-08-08 18:43:01
277.   Bob Timmermann
No Dodger pitcher in the last 50 years has lost consecutive starts by a 1-0 score.
2007-08-08 18:43:18
278.   Lexinthedena
Colletti more than anyone deserves the heat right now....
2007-08-08 18:43:56
279.   dodgerkramer1
Totally pathetic. They might finish last in the West. No chance for the postseason.

I should have known this offense (and team) was a house of cards.

I can't believe I once thought this was a good offensive team.

The future doesn't look bright, either, because as good as the young guys sometimes are, Arizona has about twice as many good young players. ... For one thing, we're not developing any pitchers, besides Billingsley and Broxton.

OK, I'm done venting. Sorry.

2007-08-08 18:43:57
280.   old dodger fan
277 You never cease to amaze me.
2007-08-08 18:44:02
281.   Icaros
Dodgers can lose every game the rest of this season and I still will be glad we only made one stupid trade at the break.
2007-08-08 18:44:11
282.   Humma Kavula
275 I know what you're saying, but I'll put it a different way.

One player, outside perhaps of the 1921 version of Babe Ruth, would be unlikely to have made any difference over the last three games.

2007-08-08 18:44:42
283.   D4P
I guess Chad just hasn't "learned how to win" yet.
2007-08-08 18:44:46
284.   old dodger fan
277 You never cease to amaze me. Thanks.
2007-08-08 18:45:09
285.   Humma Kavula
279 It is highly unlikely that they will fall behind the Giants.
2007-08-08 18:45:51
286.   Eric Enders
279 I understand you're frustrated, but that fourth paragraph has absolutely no basis in reality.
2007-08-08 18:46:13
287.   bhsportsguy
Hey, on the bright side, Dodger's ERA is 3.28 over the last 6 games.

Losing margins during the streak:
3 1-run losses
1 2-run loss (the 3-time left bases loaded game)
1 3-run loss
1 4 run loss

This period just brings back the Jim Tracy years for some reason.

2007-08-08 18:46:40
288.   Humma Kavula
For one thing, we're not developing any pitchers, besides Billingsley and Broxton.

Scroll up, and search for "McDonald."

However, if anybody mentions any other pitcher, do not listen to that person. Such a pitcher does not exist.

2007-08-08 18:46:41
289.   A Dodger expatriate in Pennsylvania
275 OK. So, Kemp and Loney for the '21 Babe Ruth and you're on board. Good.
2007-08-08 18:46:53
290.   old dodger fan
Losing is discouraging, especially when you think you have a good team. We will get through this and back on track, I just hope we can do it before we dig a hole too deep to get out of in less than 2 months. I would hate to take this team into September playing out the string.
2007-08-08 18:47:34
291.   regfairfield
279 What great pitchers have the Diamondbacks developed? Most of their young players are a couple years older than ours, so it makes sense they'll be more developed. By 2009, the gap should be closed.

278 As much as it pains me to admit it it's the Colletti guys (Nomar/Pierre/Furcal) that have provided whatever tiny attack we can muster. I can't see how this terrible streak is his fault.

2007-08-08 18:48:19
292.   regfairfield
288 I can mention Meloan right?
2007-08-08 18:49:09
293.   Humma Kavula
292 Yes, you may.
2007-08-08 18:49:46
294.   old dodger fan
291 Nomar, Pierre and Furcal are the only Dodgers with over 100 AB's with an OPS+ below 100.
2007-08-08 18:50:06
295.   D4P
B.Y. Kim starting for Arizona tonight. That's not likely to end well for the snakes.
2007-08-08 18:50:34
296.   Eric Enders
I think we might see McDonald next week sometime. The way we are playing, I don't know if Ned is going to be able to wait until Sept. 1.
2007-08-08 18:51:20
297.   Bob Timmermann
I think the last pitcher to lose consecutive starts by 1-0 margins was Mike Norris of Oakland on May 16, 1980 (at Toronto) and May 20 (at Kansas City)
2007-08-08 18:51:31
298.   bhsportsguy
292 Yeah, he never got Minotaur status.

291 You are more versed in statistical analysis than I am, so tell me that a 3 for 55 stretch in anything in baseball is a function of luck as much as anything. Even the worse team in baseball would get lucky and have a lot more hits than that.

2007-08-08 18:51:43
299.   Humma Kavula
296 From your mouth to Ned's ears.

OK, I gotta go home. Bye all.

2007-08-08 18:52:06
300.   JoeyP
Until Ned gets with the program and starts valuing OBP, SLG---power/patience. Dodgers offense will struggle.
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2007-08-08 18:53:31
301.   Bob Timmermann
In 1999, Randy Johnson had a streak where he lost 1-0, 2-0, 1-0, and 2-0. In one of those games, the DBacks were no-hit.
2007-08-08 18:54:52
303.   Gen3Blue
I'm psyched that Bills looks like the real thing!
Humour is beginning to kick in on this streak thank god.
I feel if we don't score three runs, guys like Kent, Kemp, Gonzolez, and Loney are at fault. If we don't score 2 runs, its guys like Martin and Ethier. But if we don't score one run..... It's Pierre and Furcal. I have my favorites to blame at this point.
As is so typical, when you are trying to look somewhere in the Org. for good news, most prospects are injured, or doing lousy. One exception is Hu?, so I would watch him, and I am so glad we didn't trade him
2007-08-08 18:55:07
304.   Bob Timmermann
Fritz Peterson of the Yankees lost consecutive 1-0 games on August 14 and 18, 1974.
2007-08-08 18:55:14
305.   Eric Enders
Yeah, Tomko pitching in a big home run park... no way we can lose that one.
2007-08-08 18:55:20
306.   MMSMikey
over/under on martin getting a day off tomorrow
2007-08-08 18:55:39
307.   regfairfield
VORP for D'Backs under 25: 11.9 (-.1 offensively)
Dodgers under 25: 78.7
2007-08-08 18:55:48
308.   bhsportsguy
296 Okay, lets figure it out, next Tuesday is Tomko's next start if everything stays on track.

Friday would be Hendrickson's next start assuming he pitches on Sunday.

Considering how Tomko reacted in his last start in LA, I think that would be a good place also, outside of Carlos Lee, the Astros are not a great offensive team, but that would mean McDonald would be in line to pitch against the Rockies and then in Shea.

2007-08-08 18:56:00
309.   dodgerkramer1
How many games will this team win the rest of the season? I believe there are 49 left?

I'm saying 18-31 the rest of the way.

The wheels have come off the cart.

2007-08-08 18:56:57
310.   Bob Timmermann
Tom Seaver lost consecutive 1-0 games on August 25 and 30, 1973. And the Mets almost won the World Series that year!
2007-08-08 18:57:29
311.   regfairfield
298 It's entirely luck/regression to the mean.

294 In general, yes, but I was referring only to this useless streak. Blaming the Dodgers going 3 for 50 with RISP on Ned is just wrong.

2007-08-08 18:58:39
312.   Bob Timmermann
Vida Blue lost consecutive 1-0 games in his MVP/Cy Young year of 1971.
2007-08-08 18:58:57
313.   Eric Enders
If I'm not mistaken, McDonald has to be placed on the 40-man roster this offseason anyway, or we would lose him to the Rule 5 draft. So there's no downside to calling him up now, particularly since we already have an open spot on the 40-man.

Well, make that one downside. He's currently pitching in Tampa Bay.

2007-08-08 19:01:13
314.   bhsportsguy
311 When there is so much else to blame him for.

If you had told me last week that the Dodgers would have a streak of 6 games where they gave up a 3.5 runs a game, I would have figured they would have won 4 if not more of them.

I'm pretty sure that the Dodgers have not had streak like that since May.

2007-08-08 19:02:50
316.   regfairfield
314 Of course, I'd be the first to argue that this team was terribly constructed to begin with, but you can't blame a 1-7 stretch entirely on him.

Unless Wilson Betemit really was the glue holding this team together.

2007-08-08 19:03:25
317.   Sam DC
Ouch -- Atlanta down 4-3 and batting in the top of the ninth. They load the bases with no outs. And don't score.
2007-08-08 19:04:04
318.   Bob Timmermann
Others with consecutive 1-0 losses:
Denny LeMaster
Fergie Jenkins
Jim Nash
Chris Zachary
Don Mossi
Mike McCormick
2007-08-08 19:06:36
319.   bhsportsguy
318 I'm looking forward to next Thursday to see if Bob can answer the 4th inning quiz before the answers are put up on the scoreboard.
2007-08-08 19:06:38
320.   Eric Enders
Billingsley's ERA in his three losses: 3.18.
ERA in his seven wins: 0.64.

The only scoring he's given up in his seven wins was the homer with two outs in the bottom of the 9th at Houston.

2007-08-08 19:08:07
321.   bhsportsguy
320 12 innings plus giving up 2 runs will help that first ERA.
2007-08-08 19:08:29
322.   Bob Timmermann
Walter Johnson pitched in 64 1-0 complete games.

He won 38 times and lost 26.

2007-08-08 19:09:14
323.   bhsportsguy
Nate, look at it this way, maybe we can get a protected draft pick.
2007-08-08 19:11:13
324.   Bob Timmermann
Has anyone checked to see if Tony Jackson's life insurance policy has a seppuku clause?
2007-08-08 19:12:33
325.   bhsportsguy
324 Tony said on his blog that he is supposed to be impartial but this, to quote Bill Walton, "Horrible" to watch. (My characterization not Tony's)
2007-08-08 19:16:06
326.   El Lay Dave
304 Because Fritz needed Mike Kekich in order to score.
2007-08-08 19:16:14
327.   Lexinthedena leat we have the bright future....assuming Ned stops with the blockage...
2007-08-08 19:16:18
328.   underdog

What Icaros said in 281

I'm glad I missed most of this one. Frustrated enough without actually watching it.

But not to be the voice of reason or anything, but I seem to recall the Dodgers had a ridiculous losing streak last year of epic proportions in which they couldn't hit, score or pitch all that well. So these 18-31 projections and (as Max Fischer would say) whatnot, are fairly ludicrous. But I understand where it comes from, borne of the frustration from this futility.

Anyway, with all the talk of bringing Meloan and McDonald up (not that I'd be adverse to that - I'd love to see Meloan soon), and with our starting pitching worries, the pitching's been pretty decent as of late. Hitting's been absolutely putrid. But it can't go anywhere but up. Tomorrow we may have T omko going but they have a guy who the Dodgers should be able to hit. So we'll see. If they can't, then they've really, really hit bottom.

Still, I wouldn't mind if Grady mixed it up yet again - don't start Pierre for once, start Lieberthal for once, put in Delwyn, whatever. Shake it up.

See you all - or some of you - tomorrow.

2007-08-08 19:29:25
329.   Sam DC
Today I watched Bonds homer with my 6 year old. Then we went to the mlb library and watched Aaron hitting 715. Then he sat and watched a bunch of the "top 30" clips while I made dinner. Before we ate, we watched Gibson's '88 homer (sorta like saying Grace, I guess, had the laptop right in the middle of the dinner table).

Anyhow, that mlb library (at under "audio/video" and then "baseball's best") is cool. I recommend it.

2007-08-08 19:29:25
330.   ucladodger

And hes pitching really well lately, as well. ERA under 4 for the last 4 weeks or so, and in his 8 starts against the 5 best teams in the AL has a 4.2 ERA.

2007-08-08 19:32:40
331.   Sam DC
757 into the cove.
2007-08-08 19:32:45
332.   Bob Timmermann
Matt Stairs had a streak of hitting a double in five straight at bats. Which isn't that hard I guess. The last guy to do it was Charles Johnson.
2007-08-08 19:34:16
333.   Branch Rickey
Of course it's not Mueller's fault that this has happened. But nor was it to his credit last month which was what drove me nuts. Good streaks happen (especially when two rookies get added to the roster and hit .380) and bad streaks happen (especially when they stop doing so). This is a mediocre offensive team. Not as good as July and not as bad as this week. Streaks happen. At least the magic of Mueller has been debunked.
2007-08-08 19:37:36
334.   Bob Timmermann
I get a Google News Alert for baseball. One of the stories is about Bud Selig's future meetings with George Mitchell. I have Gmail.

So on the sidebar, I have a link that says "Schedule meeting with George Mitchell for August 15."

2007-08-08 19:38:30
335.   Bob Timmermann
Byung-Hyun Kim, bringing back bad memories to DBacks fans.
2007-08-08 19:40:03
336.   natepurcell
Nate, look at it this way, maybe we can get a protected draft pick.

eh, I'd rather make the playoffs. That said, if there is a Justin Upton in next years draft, then I guess it wouldn't be so bad.

2007-08-08 19:40:08
337.   Sam DC
334: You should do it!
2007-08-08 19:42:13
338.   Bob Timmermann
I have to work on August 15. I'm on August 16, but I'll be going to the Dodgers game that night.
2007-08-08 19:43:05
339.   natepurcell
small sample size and GCL caveats apply:

Chris Withrow
8IP 5H 4bb 12k 0HR 5.63 era (era doesn't match the peripherals)

Michael Watt
9.2IP 4H 1bb 10k 0hr 1.86 era

Danny Danielson
9.2IP 2H 5bb 12k 0HR 2.79 era

2007-08-08 19:43:18
340.   Fallout
So many on and off the bandwagon people... You guys probably own a Staples' "That Was Easy" button and think that it works. Look at all the teams that have gone through a funk and turned it around. Oh, but it's different when it's the Dodgers. Geez, give it a few weeks and see what happens.
2007-08-08 19:46:22
341.   Curtis Lowe
340 - It's that kind of steady reasoning that makes being a fan boring.
2007-08-08 19:50:16
342.   natepurcell
Homer pick for 2008 draftee...
Preston Guilmet RHP U of Arizona
1.87era 135.0IP 34bb 146k
2007-08-08 19:51:38
343.   Suffering Bruin
What is this? What IS this? I mean, what the (bleep) is THIS?

Look, I'm not a johnny-come-lately-and-oh-by-the-by-I'll-start-cheering-when -the-team-does-better guy. I'm an optimist. But this... this is annoying. This has gotta stop.

Hey, I used to WORK at Staples. "That Was Easy" contributed to my dang paycheck. I'm not saying this is easy. But I'm sick of the shutouts. I'm sick to death of no offense. I'm an optimist... but I'm an optimist who's getting dang tired of seeing the goose eggs. I mean, c'mon! I thought starting was the problem. It ain't that big of a deal these days. What's hurting us is the lumber, or lack thereof.

I blame myself.

This all started when I agreed to fill in for summer school. Since then, I've been off the comment boards, not keeping up with the team other than the scores, haven't been watching the games nearly enough... it's nice to know I have this control. So saying that, I'd like to write in the sky, with big, white, streaming smoke that can be seen for miles...


Thank you. That is all.

2007-08-08 19:52:18
344.   Curtis Lowe
342 - That name isn't very pitcherish. Sounds more like a third basemen.
2007-08-08 19:52:34
345.   Suffering Bruin
Uh, post above should say "starting pitching."

Yeah, proofreading is an issue with my students, too.

2007-08-08 19:56:00
346.   CanuckDodger
339 -- It is interesting how the Dodgers are really babying the newly-drafted pitchers (except the guys sent to Ogden, who, lets face it, are just roster filler). They are only getting one or two innings in per outing. Probably a reaction to Bryan Morris needing TJ surgery after racking up 60 innings last year in rookie ball.
2007-08-08 19:57:05
347.   Sam DC
Bob Carpenter: "The Nationals will have the bat of Joel Hanrahan in the lineup tomorrow."

Not really a Carpenter fan, but that's pretty good.

2007-08-08 19:57:18
348.   natepurcell

There were delivery concerns with Morris though before the draft.

2007-08-08 20:00:15
349.   max power
Lyons said after the game tonight that Grittle (paraphrasing here) "threatened the veterans that if they don't start picking it up he's going to sit them and let the kids play."

Is this a direct threat to Pierre or just LuGo?

2007-08-08 20:00:24
350.   natepurcell

best baseball name so far in the 2008 draft: Cutter Dykstra

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2007-08-08 20:00:38
351.   CanuckDodger
342 -- No more drafting guys with the first name of "Preston" until Mattingly pulls up his socks. We should have taken Joba The Hutt instead of Mattingly last year. Ironically, the Yankees supposedly intended to use the pick they used on Joba on Mattingly, but we beat the Yanks to the guy they wanted.
2007-08-08 20:03:02
352.   natepurcell

Joba reminds me of Broxton.

2007-08-08 20:06:22
353.   Bob Timmermann
So how will the Dodgers score their next run?
A) home run
B) RBI single
C) RBI double
D) RBI triple
E) sac fly
F) squeeze play
G) error
H) bases loaded walk
I) bases loaded HBP
J) bases loaded CI (separate from G)
K) double play
L) balk
M) UN decree
N) League of Nations mandate
O) Private law passed by Congress
P) Emergency order from Supreme Court justice
Q) Scoreboard operator error
2007-08-08 20:06:24
354.   PDH5204
I still say we try trading our starting 8 for the DRays starting 8.
2007-08-08 20:07:00
355.   PDH5204
I still say we try trading our starting 8 for the DRays starting 8.
2007-08-08 20:09:00
356.   max power
353 Olmedo Saenz steals home.
2007-08-08 20:09:09
357.   CanuckDodger
352 -- Broxton is way heavier. Joba reminds me of a young Roger Clemens. Same body, same delivery, same fastball. I know I am on record against the Dodgers taking college guys early -- usually because I think by the time we pick the best college guys are gone -- but when a Roger Clemens clone falls into your lap at #31, take him, take him, take him!
2007-08-08 20:10:44
358.   natepurcell

we picked the worlds best LOOGY at 39 though!

2007-08-08 20:10:58
359.   Dave G
Bob (aka font of all baseball knowledge), maybe I missed it (and maybe they mentioned it on the Dodger broadcast today--I was at work), but do you have a stat for the MLB record for consecutive scoreless innings by a batting team?
2007-08-08 20:11:10
360.   Nagman
353 Isn't there a standard score if the other team forfeits, something like 9-0? That's a week's worth of runs right there.
2007-08-08 20:12:33
361.   Sam DC

Just cause you've worked so hard for it.

2007-08-08 20:14:05
362.   Bob Timmermann
I posted it earlier. It's 48 innings by the 1968 Cubs and the 1906 Athletics.

The 1992 Cubs are the last team to be shut out four straight times. They were shut out in five of six games. Then they won a game with 10 runs. Then they lost two more where they scored just one run.

2007-08-08 20:14:33
363.   Nagman
The play that never works just worked. Dbacks pitcher faked the pickoff to 3rd and picked off the runner at first.
2007-08-08 20:15:05
364.   Daniel Zappala
The Red Sox turned a rare 5-3-5 double play today.
2007-08-08 20:16:18
365.   Nagman
With three games in the books the NL West has scored collectively a whopping 20 runs!
2007-08-08 20:32:01
366.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2007-08-08 20:32:16
367.   Marty
Nate, is Cutter any relation to Nails? And can he get me a free car wash?
2007-08-08 20:32:36
368.   Marty
Damn you Weisman!

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