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for many years to come.
2 I'm afraid your right.
Chin-lung Hu was starting at 2nd alongside Wilson Valdez last weekend in Vegas.
Is it possible that he's getting the chance to compete for Abreu's spot as Kent's heir apparent?
Yep. According to the 51's web site they didn't even remove him from the DL as they predicted would happen this weekend. So it doesn't appear that his rehab is going well.
You know I was just thinking about that as well & I really feel Furcal is gonna resign with the Dodgers he seems very happy here & it really looks like upper management likes him a great deal.
Tomko lost his pouting privileges a long time ago, specially here in L.A.
I will say he's had some solid starts for us of late though, but that's about it.
17 True, but it was a great defensive play by Furcal.
Bob's real name is Seymour Siwoff.
Then I would be a grouchy old man who hates everyone with a computer.
I think Santana was taken out because he had thrown 112 pitches and it was 1-0 game.
I had a bad feeling when the catcher set up so far inside on the pitch that hit Martin. Just a little off aim would hit him, and that's what happened.
That helps.
Anderson single
Matthews K
Kotchman infield single
Izturis K
No way Gonzalez or RM2 (maybe RM2 but I doubt it) get extensions if they do Ned will lose some Cred in my book.
Nice drag line drive bunt hit by Slappy there.
how about not hitting into DP's Hillenbrand!
Both have used three.
Tampa Bay has used Navarro, Guzman, and Reyes.
Boston used Drew, Lugo, and Gagne.
Or a bigger lead.
Is this is first major league appearance?
Green, Anderson, and Alomar.
Dogmatic adherence to this 100 pitch limit is, I think, hurting a lot of teams because you are forced to use middle relievers who aren't quite as good. How many times have we seen a commanding performance by a starter squandered late in a close game?
my biased views on him blind me from seeing it that way TM, uh oh bases juiced with no body out.
Santana did strike out the last 6 batters. He struck out 6 of 7. He gave up a double in there.
But I'm not Ron Gardenhire. Ask him!
Lo Duca is on the DL.
Damned if you do.
Damned if you don't.
Randy Johnson threw 131 in his 20 K game.
Kerry Wood threw 122.
If you're holding up Drysdale and Koufax as models for making a pitcher's career last a long time, I suggest you take a look at their ages when they retired.
Nolan Ryan is the better poster boy for that.
We want to bring back Tommy Lasorda and just let him run pitchers into the ground?
I'm getting confused.
Yes, some pitchers can throw a lot of pitches in a game. But they aren't many of them.
And by "we," I mean "I."
He must be really happy right now.
That said, I realize baseball has changed a lot in general, and in pitching in particular since the '60s and '70s. There is greater specialization nowadays (i.e. middle reliever, set up men, closers, etc.) yet I think there's a need for flexibility depending, of course, upon the pitcher and the game.
of course you have to factor in the recovery time which varies from pitcher to pitcher & I think some pitching coaches don't factor that in as much as one would like
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/Sa2Q
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/sports/baseball/19little.html
This year's team is average at best, and next year will likely be the same.
It depresses me to think about this - I was really optimistic after last season ended - with the promise of so many good young players in the pipeline.
Not entirely sure what it means, but interesting numbers nonetheless.
what do they feed them in the lone star state!?
He doesn't manage the Dodgers. But he wants too.
A team like the Twins will win a good chunk of its games if the starter goes deep into the game because they have a good bullpen.
Also a lot of those 100+ pitch games are from Johan Santana.
How many teams have more than 2 relievers whom you can trust with the game on the line?
The Twins have Neshek and Nathan and then some guys who are OK. Just like the Dodgers have Broxton and Saito.
And isn't better to not have to use six pitchers every game?
Connor Jackson is a bum.
The one you are going to give to me?
So it appears that what we need is some way to balance pitches thrown and innings pitched. 100 pitches in 5 innings bad, 100 pitches in 7 or 8 not bad.
If you're talking about the left fielder I'm thinking of, he has my blessing.
You're getting last year's feed.
If the Twins starter throws 100 or more pitches and goes fewer than 7 innings, the team is 15-15.
Which probably proves nothing.
164 Ah, that explains it. I thought he looked trimmer.
Santana struck out six of the last seven batters he faced, including a 93 mph fastball he threw past Jarrod Saltalamacchia on his 112th -- and final -- pitch. He tipped his cap to the crowd as he reached the dugout.
"I felt good, but at the same time we knew in that game situation that Nathan will be the right guy to go back out there," Santana said. "He's one of the closers in the game and I trust him, just like I trust all my teammates."
Short your stock in Nationwide.
Just a tip.
I also like that Kemp isnt afraid to show how upset he is when he misses a pitch. He was really PO's at himself for missing that. I just like seeing that passion.
Big Moment!!
Yes, I guess it was.
Or is it as a Rocky?
Well, two innings to score a run or two. Can they muster up the strength? Is Kent available to pinch hit? At least Saenz is out of the way.
Better you sleep and we win then you get startled awake and we lose.
That were only playing for the WC.
i was with you on that one. He just hit the ball off of the end of the bat, which is hard to tell for anyone but the hitter.
You want the Dodgers to bat out of order?
I still believe we can win the NL West (one can dream) but as Vinnie has pointed out our only shot might be the Wild Card.
He's next!!
And there's only 1 out.
I'm fuming now. I'm losing faith in Little.
Of course now I'm happy, but I'm still fuming. This will just validate Grady's stupid move.
:)
Just a bad bad move.
We get to see Sammy!
Hopefully we get to see him smile, too. I don't like frowning Saito as much.
"so for a while we will focus on the wild card"
wow saito is impressive.
At this point, George Peppard lights up the cigar and says "I love it when plan starts coming together."
to einai awesome
Rockies just got sizzled.
A series win! Huzzah! {throw confetti}
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And Frip can take a nap now, it's safe!
It would have been funnier if I had the line right.
Then again, maybe not.
So for the week, I was 3-1 and now I am 11-12 for the season.
BTW - Each game I went to had an announced tickets sold of 48K+, I seriously doubt that there were more than 35K in the park for each of those games, though Monday and Wednesday were some nice crowds, today, no more than 30,000 in the park.
That's pretty funny (I think?) but why would you do that?
Can't let it lie, can you?
of course we play them very well at there stadium so it should be very interesting.
I would actually be in favor of a rule that says relief pitchers couldn't get vultured wins. If you enter in a tie game and your team goes ahead, fine, you get the win. But if you enter with your team in the lead, then blow the lead, and then your team goes ahead again, the win reverts back to the previous pitcher of record (in this case the starter).
Hero: Wilson Betemit, who started at shortstop for Derek Jeter -- who got the day off. Betemit drove in four runs and broke the game open with a bases-loaded double in the eighth.
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I like part of your idea regarding vultured wins, but feel rather than reverting to the pitcher who was leading at the time-I think the win should either go to Saito, he had to protect it and would not get a save, or it goes to the discretion of the offical scorer. Similiar to win a pitcher leaves before 5 innings and the scorer decides who gets the win.
Las Vegas
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Pinango 3.2 6 3 3 3 3 0 4.31
Meloan 2.1 1 0 0 1 2 0 2.20
Fussell 2.0 0 0 0 2 2 0 4.45
Also Ruan flied out for Abreu in the 6th. Young is 4 for 5.
I will try and look on the bright side more often. After all, we did come from behind today and win a critical game, and we're well within reach of the wild card. In fact, if we can put together a 10 game winning streak, we can still win the division. We need to get the clutch hits, like Martinez did today. Kudos also to Furcal's defense, which probably saved the game.
And we have a lot to look forward to. Colletti has resisted trading our top prospects, and two or three years from now we may have a very exciting young team.
And I do look forward to seeing more of those prospects coming in, too. (Hopefully they won't be blocked by too many veterans ;-))
Peace. Here's to enjoying day off tomorrow - for fans as well as players.
I swear the riding through Coldwater Canyon right now.
Las Vegas
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Pinango 3.2 6 3 3 3 3 0 4.31
Meloan (W, 2-0) 2.1 1 0 0 1 2 0 2.20
Fussell (H, 2) 2.1 1 0 0 3 2 0 4.41
Hull (S, 11) 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.73
Meloans line, to much theatrics we should bring him up already [looking at calender] 2 more weeks baby 2 more weeks.
165 "When a Twins starter goes at least 7 and throws 100 or more pitches, the team has gone 9-6.
"If the Twins starter throws 100 or more pitches and goes fewer than 7 innings, the team is 15-15.
"Which probably proves nothing."
Prove, no. But 9-6 is a .600 winning percentage, which will win a lot of titles. A piddling 15-15 isn't going to win anything. Maybe there's some correlation.
Those glorious Concourses! So wide!
And food everywhere! And the restaurant up top! Magnificent!
But the Padres won, so that stunk.
I'm guessing tony jackson has never played baseball before. Basically, after walking Pierre, Ortiz was going to throw a strike. He threw a "get me over" slider and Kemp knew it. He put a good swing on the ball, but just missed it. It happens. Give him that pitch 10 times in that circumstance, and im guessing he gets on 7-8 times with 5 homers. As a hitter, often times the first pitch you guess a spot and a type of pitch. If you get your pitch, you hack. I dont mind first pitch swinging, i actually applaud it in certain circumstances, but what does get on my nerves is when Nomar or someone else swings at a first pitch that has fooled him or is not in the spot he is looking for. If you guess right first pitch, you cant really ask for anything better, and you for sure wont see a better pitch the entire AB.
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