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Encarnacion's Career in Jeopardy
2007-09-02 20:10
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

The career of Juan Encarnacion, who played for the Dodgers in 2004 (it seems so long ago now), may be over after he was hit in the eye by a foul ball. From The Associated Press:

The damage a foul ball did to Juan Encarnacion's left eye was the worst the St. Louis Cardinals' medical director has ever seen to a baseball player.

Dr. George Paletta was not optimistic Sunday that the outfielder will regain full vision after his frightening injury and resume his career.

"It's the worst trauma I've seen. Absolutely," Paletta said, adding that the future holds no guarantees. "You hope the best for Juan, but he suffered a severe injury with a very guarded prognosis.

"It's way too early to say whether he will or he won't, and if he doesn't what percentage of vision loss he may have."

Paletta said the eye socket was essentially crushed on impact, comparing the injured area to the disintegration of an egg shell or ice cream cone, and that the optic nerve had sustained severe trauma. Reconstructive surgery may not take place for several days while doctors wait for swelling to subside. ...

Wishing Juan all the best. The Dodgers know on-deck circle injuries, of course: Steve Yeager was nearly killed when shards of Bill Russell's shattered bat lodged in his neck. Yeager later invented the now widely used catcher's throat guard to protect himself.

Update: Ross Porter e-mails to say that it was former Dodger trainer Bill Buehler who actually created the throat guard.

Comments
2007-09-02 20:20:40
1.   D4P
I blame Paul DePodesta.
2007-09-02 20:25:18
2.   trainwreck
Very sad. Hope for the best for Juan.
2007-09-02 20:27:29
3.   Bluebleeder87
the diagnoses sounds pretty glim in terms of his playing career.
2007-09-02 20:32:36
4.   Daniel Zappala
Wow. It does seem like forever since he played for the Dodgers. I certainly wish him the best and I hope he is able to enjoy the rest of his life with his family and friends.
2007-09-02 20:47:25
5.   dianagramr
The Cards have had their share of misery lately .... going back to Darryl Kile.

Best wishes to Juan ...

2007-09-02 20:47:57
6.   Sam DC
Nats Notes:

Barry Bonds hitless at RFK this weekend (sat out good chunks of two games, though).

Dmitri Young is 5th in the NL batting ave race, .004 behind Matt Holliday.

Washington Post tells me that your NL leader in "batting with RISP and two outs" is . . . Nook Logan.

Amazing pic of Ryan Zimmerman hitting his gamewinning single this afternoon off a tough slider from Brian Wilson. http://tinyurl.com/2o58bs. I look at that picture and think "baseball is a very hard game."

Big Series starting tomorrow for the Nationals in the "avoid last place" derby -- Marlins are at RFK for three. Tuesday night is the marquee matchup of Shawn Hill v. Dontrelle if your local and thinking of heading out.

2007-09-02 20:50:12
7.   overkill94
Now that I finally caught up with the last thread's comments I wanted to chime in on the bullpen management...

I was watching with my dad and we had differing opinions. First of all, I had hoped they'd let Chad go one more since he seemed to be rolling, though he may have been tired due to the heat and all. Second, I was in favor of going to Proctor over Broxton since a 5-run lead should be easy to protect and you still have Broxton and/or Saito around if things get a little tense. I was most impressed by Grady's quick hook once things got a little dicey. Going to Hernandez in the 9th was the same philosophy - try to get by with the inferior reliever but be ready to bring the hook. My dad insisted that they should have just gone Broxton and Saito for the 8th and 9th, but I think that even if they haven't pitched in a few days you still would like to rest them when possible.

2007-09-02 21:04:19
8.   Bumsrap
Going back a few threads when I said The rotation I would love to see next year is
Billingsley
Meloan
Kershaw
Miller
McDonald

Make fun of it as you will but I am willing to bet that everybody would love to see that rotation next year. It obviously wont happen unless Miller can throw strikes and be spectacular in spring training and the other youngsters have to have great springs as well. But if they did the unexpected, most of us would love to have these guys doing well and if so be the heart of the rotation.

Would I bet a nickel that all five make the rotation? No. I would just love to see that rotation.

Trading Penny and Lowe might get a Ian Snell type pitcher or better to sub into that rotation. I am tired of Penny and Lowe myself.

2007-09-02 21:17:58
9.   Eric Enders
8 Sorry, I wasn't one of the people criticizing it in the last thread, but I have to say that's one of the silliest ideas I've seen. I would not at all like to see that rotation next year. Penny and Lowe should be here. You'd better have a 14-man pitching staff if you're going to field a rotation in which probably not a single starter would consistently make it past the 6th inning.

I mean, Greg Miller? Please. If he harnesses his control, he might be able to join the rotation in 2009 or 2010. If. Might.

2007-09-02 21:35:19
10.   Jon Weisman
Well, the gist of 8 is that if all these guys can be great (i.e. did the unexpected), then it would be a great rotation. Of course, "most of us would love to have these guys doing well and if so be the heart of the rotation." By the same token, a rotation of Weisman, Bumsrap, Enders, Timmermann and Sam DC would be just as great. On that level, I don't think there's anything to get up in arms about.

Of course, then the whole blogosphere would be clamoring for Greg Brock and Marty to get their opportunity, to say nothing of D4P.

2007-09-02 21:38:39
11.   Jon Weisman
From reading Kevin Baxter's notebook item in the Times (Monday's editions), it apparently really did take the Dodgers until Saturday night to realize that Shea Hillenbrand wasn't their best option at third.
2007-09-02 21:39:47
12.   Lexinthedena
8- Yeah, can't say I would want that....I'm excited about the young pitchers, but we are extrmely lucky as fans to root for a baseball team that has two consistent starters like Penny and Lowe....
2007-09-02 21:48:47
13.   underdog
Also, Lowe's been slumping the last couple of starts so it's easier to be frustrated with him right now, but in general good to remember he's one of the most consistent bets in baseball when it comes to starting pitching. If he remains healthy, I'm happy to have him in the rotation. He's a bargain, too. (Now if he can stop giving up home runs, go back to the ground ball pitcher we all know and love.)
2007-09-02 21:50:20
14.   Sammy Maudlin
8 Miller and Meloan in the rotation isn't likely. Ned would give Shawn Estes an opportunity before that would happen.
2007-09-02 21:54:58
15.   trainwreck
I wonder if the organization even thinks Meloan should ever go back to starting.
2007-09-02 21:58:02
16.   underdog
Speaking of starters, any word on whose starting on Wednesday? That game's on ESPN apparently.
2007-09-02 21:58:54
17.   underdog
Who's, not whose - argh, I got caught doing one of my pet peeves.

Game tomorrow's on WGN, btw, for those not in the LA area but with cable.

2007-09-02 22:00:10
18.   shamrok
Not the subject at hand, but anybody know the Dodgers' payroll obligations next season, minus any free agent signings?
2007-09-02 22:00:35
19.   Sam DC
10 I thought Brock might get his shot, but when they brought in Naccarato on that waiver wire deal, I guess that was that.

Shimmin too was a lock, til he got impatient and went all Jeff Gillooly on D4P.

It's an ugly game.

2007-09-02 22:02:01
20.   Lexinthedena
16- According to Dodgers.com it's David Wells Vs. Ted Lilly...
2007-09-02 22:14:35
21.   King of the Hobos
15 Meloan thinks he should go back to starting though. And unless the medical staff disagrees, keeping him from the rotation could be difficult if he proves effective and healthy.

20 Wells is suspended.

2007-09-02 22:15:23
22.   Linkmeister
19 Well, it was only a matter of time before Shimmin lost his temper; didn't he threaten to jump to the D-Backs just last week?
2007-09-02 22:15:34
23.   underdog
10 I thought Shimmin was traded to the Diamondbacks.
2007-09-02 22:16:03
24.   underdog
D'oh! Link beat me by a few seconds.

--

I'm gonna assume Stults will get the nod for Wells on Wednesday.

2007-09-02 22:16:08
25.   Linkmeister
Encarnacion's injury sounds like Tony Conigliaro's, and many of us remember how he never made it back whole.
2007-09-02 22:19:27
26.   Sammy Maudlin
The starter on Wednesday might be Houlton. Stults might not do so well against the Cubs mostly right handed lineup.
2007-09-02 22:19:30
27.   Dodgers49
16. Speaking of starters, any word on whose starting on Wednesday? That game's on ESPN apparently.

>> Left-hander Eric Stults, optioned to the minors Friday to clear roster space for newly acquired pitcher Esteban Loaiza, will rejoin the Dodgers next week and start in Wells' place Wednesday in Chicago, Manager Grady Little said. <<

http://tinyurl.com/37dhoe

2007-09-02 22:23:01
28.   Gen3Blue
My prayers go to Encarnacion.

To drag up something from the previous post re Kemp: I'm not old enough to dredge up the "it must be the girls fault" point of view.
But to be the 3-5 person mentioned in this kind of high school hi-jinks must put him in the company of many millions.
2007-09-02 22:23:45
29.   Andrew Shimmin
22- Lost my temper like a fox. Do you know a better way of getting around the reserve clause? I had Josh Byrnes on the cell phone the whole time. He said I should kick D4P in the neck one time for him.
2007-09-02 22:26:49
30.   KG16
All this talk of a commenter rotation sounds grand, but, I'm holding out for the job in center field.
2007-09-02 22:33:53
31.   Lexinthedena
30- Can you get it to second base in less than two bounces?
2007-09-02 22:35:02
32.   Linkmeister
30 Are you emulating John Fogerty?
2007-09-02 22:35:43
33.   Gen3Blue
6 You know I'm becoming a Nats fan after seeing some of your young hitters, but mainly for a guy named "Nook" Logan.
2007-09-02 22:36:52
34.   Gen3Blue
30 Put me in coach. I'd say you got it.
2007-09-02 22:37:23
35.   Gen3Blue
Serpentine?
2007-09-02 22:41:46
36.   KG16
31 - I'm fairly certain I can get it to second without a bounce

32/34 - brown eyed handsome man, rounding third and heading for home, that's me.

2007-09-02 23:14:48
37.   underdog
I guess this is what our disabled third baseman's been doing with his spare time since he's been out?

http://tinyurl.com/2vzwfc

2007-09-02 23:17:20
38.   berkowit28
From dodgers.com (Gurnick):

"Furcal said his ankle is finally starting to feel better. He said the ankle normally bothers him in day games after night games, so he is hopeful Sunday's improvement is a sign that he's cleared a hurdle in his recovery, both physically and mentally."

2007-09-02 23:36:34
39.   das411
Best wishes to Juan in his recovery. I suppose it could be worse for Cardinal fans though, didn't they just call up an outfielder with lots of power and a decent arm?

6 - Sam! Did they actually let TR win a President Race on his bobblehead day??

2007-09-02 23:51:01
40.   capdodger
39 - TR won't win until the last day in RFK. It will be a huge treat for all of his loyal fans.
2007-09-03 00:13:51
41.   overkill94
Meloan definitely has a starter's repertoire of pitches, so that's not the issue. I believe he was converted to relief to keep him healthy, but has anyone ever figured out if that's a valid concern or not?
2007-09-03 00:33:36
42.   das411
and did somebody ask about Elijah Dukes?

http://www.draysbay.com/story/2007/9/2/192738/8453

2007-09-03 00:51:38
43.   Gen3Blue
39,6 Teddy?
2007-09-03 01:55:19
44.   natepurcell
Meloan definitely has a starter's repertoire of pitches, so that's not the issue. I believe he was converted to relief to keep him healthy, but has anyone ever figured out if that's a valid concern or not?

Meloan's delivery really isn't suited for starting.

2007-09-03 05:31:12
45.   MC Safety
What a way to start off the thread. Sheesh. Best of luck to Juan in his recovery.
2007-09-03 05:37:01
46.   Sam DC
39, 40, 43: Halfway through the fourth inning, the Nationals have a race between 10 foot tall characters of the four Rushmore Presidents, a la the MKE sausage races. It sounds hokey but it's really quite endearing, mostly because they jostle and cheat a lot. This year, having no good players, the team did a bobblehead for each pres.

Teddy was 0 for 105 going into Sat pm's race, which was the night they gave out his bobble. His travails have made him a huge fan favorite. On the other bobble nights, the star of the evening won the race, each time with an escort of secret service folks. Teddy came in carried on a litter by secret service guys. The crowd cheered "Teddy, Teddy."

But he fell off and George Washington sprinted by and won.

2007-09-03 05:48:48
47.   Greg Brock
46 It's only a matter of time before TR gets fed up with this two-party race and breaks off to form his own race.
2007-09-03 05:54:37
48.   Dodger Jack
Best wishes to Juan. Luckily, he is a major league baseball player. If he is disabled, he will still be a millionaire.

Last night was encouraging in some respect. Bills was terrific. But we still left ten runners stranded. Maybe in time that lineup will provide some pop but for the immediate future it lacks slugging.

I am most excited about not wasting Meloan's good stuff on middle relief and making him a starter again. Won't they have to stretch him out first? He hasn't started in more than a year.

2007-09-03 05:55:21
49.   Dodger Jack
Best wishes to Juan. Luckily, he is a major league baseball player. If he is disabled, he will still be a millionaire.

Last night was encouraging in some respect. Bills was terrific. But we still left ten runners stranded. Maybe in time that lineup will provide some pop but for the immediate future it lacks slugging.

I am most excited about not wasting Meloan's good stuff on middle relief and making him a starter again. Won't they have to stretch him out first? He hasn't started in more than a year.

2007-09-03 07:06:19
50.   jtrichey
38 Wow! Furcal is finally feeling better on September 2! That was only 5+ months after Repko "wreaked havoc". Not too bad, for a meaningless spring training game.

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