270 So why would he not give DePo the opportunity to beat, or match, Seattle's best offer. I have my doubts that DePo would have matched it anyway. But that's beside the point. It's just seems odd that he wasn't given the opportunity.

Possibly because if DePo matched Seattle's offer, no one would pay $55 million for Drew. I say possibly because I don't know, you don't know and we'll probably never find out. But that's one school of thought.

270. Dodgers49
163. 158 I think the issue is, was Boras negligent in his fiduciary duty to Beltre by not soliciting a higher bid from the Dodgers after he recieved Seattle's bid?

Correct. What I found so strange about what DePo said is that Boras is known for raising the bids for his free agents by getting GMs into bidding wars. Heck, he even got The Sheriff to bid against himself for Kevin Brown. So why would he not give DePo the opportunity to beat, or match, Seattle's best offer. I have my doubts that DePo would have matched it anyway. But that's beside the point. It's just seems odd that he wasn't given the opportunity.

I also said Furcal would score 125 runs. Yikes.

Lets Go Dodgers!!!

The Toaster would've ate itself.

I think my copy and paste went haywire. Just read the darned post in the previous thread. Ack.

Yeah, that wasn't cool underdog, what gives??

Are you there Dog? It's me, Magritte.

Sigh, it's been a really long day at work.

If anyone should get LAT'ed this should be it. :-)

I'm gonna skulk off of here for awhile. Ken, Bob, Jon? Anyone around? Delete! Delete!

At least I didn't copy and paste porn by accident.

LAT is a commenter here who has a knack for putting in comments just as a new thread opens up, orphaning them in the stale thread below. So being LAT'd is posting a comment just as a new thread opens.

well if you put it that way, I guess it wasn't that bad. :o)

Whoa. In other news.. Charlie Frye was traded to the Seahawks.

Doesn't his brother on the left look like the kid from Freaks and Geeks?

{removes self from underneath desk}

But its cool.

It's not quite 17-1 following 1-13 last July & August, but quite a turnaround nonetheless.

Rockies are pouring it on in Philly. 7-0 with runners on 2nd & 3rd for the Rockies, top 7.

If the Dodgers do their part tonight, this one could be an ESPY nominee.

Gonna leave you all in peace for awhile before I accidentally send us through a wormhole or something.

It's not true, but you get the sense that, in a few years, it could be.

So who has week 3 in the Brady Quinn Start pool?

What a terrible trade.

The 2007 Dodgers are 6-9 versus the Padres. There's only one way to make it 9-9.

I like your style, underdog.

May get another chance, but not a sure thing with the Nationals trailing.

Perhaps leading to another run of 4 straight Dodger ROYs?

6-0 60.2 IP 1.48 ERA 33 hits, 1 HR, 18 BB, 69K.

This reminds me of the Patton Oswalt routine on if he had a time machine, he's such a geek that he'd use it to go back to the early 90s to kill George Lucas with a shovel. Before he could make any of the prequels.

Great minds....

There goes good ol'Grady putting LaRoche in a position to succeed.

Two of the no-decisions were against the Dodgers. But, the Padres won both of those games. The first of those was the worst loss of the year, the 5 runs in the 9th, Kent/Nomar/Broxton 6-5 loss in SD.

http://tinyurl.com/2zo855

does he have penmanship problems?

B. Giles rf
G. Blum 2b
M. Cameron cf
A. Gonzalez 1b
K. Greene ss
K. Kouzmanoff 3b
T. Sledge lf
J. Bard c
J. Peavy p

This does not look like something Loaiza should fear.

darn you for beating me to the punch though :P

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/about_mlb/rules_regulations.jsp

Old friend Brian Corey pitching for the Sox.

https://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/784107.html

I'll take the under.

We did OK that game.

Peavy has given up 3 or more runs in 11 of 29 starts.

were 1 of those 11 starts against the dodgers?

Yeah, it's pretty annoying watching him this year, he should have been placed on the DL to nurse that injury.

thats right, then broxton blew a 5-1 lead in the 9th. There is a peavy curse.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN200706070.shtml

Fixed.

I'm going to have to watch his next AB closely to see if he always does this, but given his performance this year, I think that's what it is.

And if it is, the Dodgers should hire me as their hitting instructor, so what if I never played beyond 10 and under little league.

Then Giles homered.

Now I'm worried.

Huh?

Which reminds me, I've got 3 tickets available tomorrow night if anyone is interested. Email me at molokai@yahoo.com. Put Dodger Game in the subject.

I'd ask Jon to remove your email address, it's bound get caught by a search engine and open you up for spam.

molokai at yahoo dot com.

If yous can change, I can change!

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Well, apparently my stab at opening up a wormhole that would allow us to bend the rules of quantum physics and defeat Jake Peavy obviously didn't work, so for my next attempt, I will now cut and paste my entire screenplay. Brace yourself!

{Command+C, command+V.}

>>bzzzzzzzzttt!<<

Yup...

Now if we can get the classic Rocky running series of left crosses across the ring

It's outside the box, I know. Do it anyway.

on the other hand, not many chances to get something going against Peavy, so when you get them you might want to take advantage. So basically, I'm wishy washy and don't know. Don't ask me!

And for the rest of him, too!

So.

What's on TV tonight?

It's just a hunch. A gut feeling. Call it "baseball intuition." It's a sixth sense that I have.

Allegedly, he has been injured.

Knowing Gagne's history, you may feel free to remove the "allegedly."

Something tells me your retire 55

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:( !!!!

255. ?

Too bad Jake got spotted six runs.

So I guess my take from Kent is that, I am sure he realizes the situation but you can't play more than the game you have front of you.

I know that for fans, sometimes that play one game at a time creed seems dispassionate but I do think that you have to play pro sports like that.

Dude!! you just spoiled it for the rest, but I guess everybody knew the answer anyway.

Something like, who is second place on the wins from a Mexican list?

I would have started Loiaza on Sunday and went for the Penny, Lowe, Billingsly rotation this week.

I know that means that Penny is only lined up to pitch twice in the last 2 weeks but I think it would have been our best pitchers against the team we needed to beat.

Highest False Outcome Percentages (min 100 PAs):
B. Hall 91.0%
Pierre 90.8%
Eckstein 89.6%

Pierre appears on both lists, so I doth proclaim him the falsiest outcome player.

For what movie did Grady Little serve as technical advisor?

Go.

That's even easier...

Jons opening to the thread looms large at this point.

This thread is pretty funny tonight. Maybe the Dodgers should get blown out more often. Or, not.

Jack Cust hits a false outcome only 42.7% of the time! Ryan Howard is the next lowest at 46.4%. Betemit hits false outcomes 52.6% of the time.

No, actually because Jake Peavy is pitching tonight, I'm still holding out hope we can sneak in the playoffs.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0514568/

I hope that doesn't mean I'm responsible for the disastrous outcome of this game.

Tony Jackson on the same wavelength. Despairing also.

(Brilliant Pierre... almost get thrown out at second down by 5)

Actually, he was wearing one last year and got beaned. He said the new helmet wasn't as thick and the ball hurt more, so he went back to the old style.

Fellow Old Friend Edwin Jackson starts tomorrow in Fenway.

And can anyone decipher this?
"This isn't good negotiating, but I wouldn't have picked up my option for next year," Wolf said. "I want to play here, but they have to want me, as well. We'll see what happens in the offseason."

Could've been frustrating.

Was he called for interference?

That'll put him in next year's media guide, along with Kemp.

The Olmedo Saenz lodge shot from the Adam Dunn Scouting Expedition is among those listed.

Unless Broxton throws 100 mph during catch, I have no idea how this could cause injury, but I guess it did.

Yeah, that Dan Giese.

Hopefully that happens again.

Rhetorical question, no need to answer.

"Don't forget to bring a towel."

I'm also glad its so lopsided. I can go to bed. If it's 4+1 redux, it'll be fun to read about in the morning.

Peavy was going to beat us, regardless. Better this way than a crazy-making 3-1 type of game.

Imagine if Grady put Roberto in a game like that! This is painless by comparison.

First time anyone's ever typed or said that.

But why not leave Abreu in to finish up at 3rd? I know he made the last out, but there's no reason Nomar and his bad calf have to stay out there. Give Abreu the 2 innings of defensive work.

your perfect writing & timely humor is missed DzzrtRatt

that should be swings, oops.

This game is worse than the Niners-Cardinals game last night for what it's done to my brain.

That would be a moral victory and a strategic advantage for the rest of the series.

So that should be the goal Grady. Who can get you there?

Saenz is to our bench as Hernandez is to our bullpen.

"I can do it coach! Keep me in!"

what did he do? I was at the kitchen graving some water.

And now he's kind of like Rudy Seanez.

stop it, your giving me flashbacks.

With pants on, I meant.

Here's hoping 2008 is better.

I had to google it & I still don't remember it.
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Orange County from '75-'80

Long Beach from '94-'05

I can entertain the idea that sliding helps. I usually think of sprinters in the Olympics not sliding into the finish line, but the finish line isn't on the ground obviously, so maybe that analogy doesn't work.

(It's a little late in the year for Martin to finally get some rest.)

This game should be a lot closer.

Maybe the young'ns aren't that bad? Maybe?

Is that perverse enough for you Dave?

Well, I guess my plan did not work.

He homered while I wrote that.

seriously, though, that was one of the more surrealistic moments of the season. Kemp and Ethier fail to drive in runs, but the tiny SS hits one out?

First of all, when did Roberto Alomar get to be a smart player.

As for sliding into first, think in terms of vectors. If you're running straight ahead, the vector describing your velocity is going in one direction. Once you slide, that vector goes in a downward direction and you lose velocity.

I also think there is a lot more friction involved when your whole body is sliding against dirt as opposed to just your feet touching the dirt.

L-O-V-E

I kind of figured, it must be nice watching your boss with the miserable season SF is having.

Oh wait. Was that sarcasm?

As for Alomar, he always seemed to be good at the secondary things in the game (baserunning, defense, eye, etc) but maybe that's just a thought I had in my head from my youth.

Next two are must wins.

Sigh. Loney had a pitch to hit there, too. Oh well. Yeah, I agree, the Dodgers have to win the next two, they have to do whatever they can. Get some more of the kids in there for pete's sake, too.

I'm going to the SF-AZ game tomorrow. This was going to be one of the rare times in my life when I would be rooting for the Giants.

I don't think it's even worth cheapening myself like that now.

I really want to like Little, but it's getting harder and harder. Kinda like Tracy. Tracy always seemed like a nice guy and you wanted to root for him to succeed. But one befuddling decision after another, and you just start disliking the guy. Little is drifting that way.

Ned keeps getting him players, and instead of picking the best team, he rotates the lineup so they can all play often. WTF?

ugh, that gets me angry (maybe jealous) I hit the treadmill if I eat to much ice cream, god bless you man.

I really do think Grady's suffering from burnout - his decision-making the last 4-5 days has been particularly bad. But then I thought Dave Jauss was there to supposedly help keep a manager from doing something stupid. Fire Dave Jauss!

Sorry, I'm burned out too. Night all. Here's to better times tomorrow.

Actually, I have no idea.

If so, where does it get built, and what kind of team do we build it for? Dodger Stadium was obviously built for Koufax and Drysdale, much like Yankee Stadium was built for Ruth and Gerhig.

Optimism or pessimism?

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The thing about Loiaza - well, we'd been warned about him. He's going to be pretty good 2 out of 3 times and that 3rd time he'll be truly awful. I guess the Dodgers could sub in for him the next time there's a third time - if necessary. So, hey, maybe next time he'll be solid again. Tomko's terrible every time. Next year the Dodgers will have more options - that actually aren't terrible options.

Yeah, let's try that.

SS Furcal
CF Pierre
1B Loney
RF Kemp
LF Ethier
C Martin
2B Abreu
3B LaRoche

I think Abreu starts for defense since Lowe is on the mound, but I can see him at 3B instead of LaRoche (leaving Kent in).

"I got good vibes," Watson said. "We'll see what happens. He said he'll be back in touch with me in 10 days. I'll either go to Round 2 or be out."

And the Chronicles' lead story on their homepage is about a Mormon beefcake calendar. Is that really worth the lead story on the Chronicle's homepage?

Yeah, what's the latest on Lowe? I am optimistic he'll be ready by Wednesday.

But I'll throw in Delwyn Young in CF just for wishful thinking. ;-)

Night all.

If he doesn't reach the 550 PA threshold, the Dodgers hold a $7m option with a $500k buyout. However, if he doesn't get the 29 PAs without being hurt (highly unlikely, close to 0%), I foresee a grievance filed by the MLBPA.

Kent has said all year he will wait until the offseason to decide whether or not he will play in 2008.

Vin does not read DT that I know of. He's a big fan of the 9/11 game too - he usually talks about it on the anniversary. I think he does that on his own.

I think LaRoche and Kemp will play Wednesday, but not Abreu.

Did anyone predict Hu would hit his first major-league homer before LaRoche?