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Have Mercy ...
2007-10-28 10:29
by Jon Weisman

It wasn't a kickoff return, but ...

"Oh my goodness!"

2007-10-28 10:38:57
1.   Bob Timmermann
Does anybody else think the audio was dubbed in after the play?
2007-10-28 10:42:35
2.   Jon Weisman
Why do you think that? That didn't occur to me at all.
2007-10-28 10:47:15
3.   Bob Timmermann
Because everyone is identified quickly and the guy sounds too much like Joe Starkey at the end.
2007-10-28 10:54:20
4.   D4P
Because everyone is identified quickly

I noticed that part too.

2007-10-28 11:01:42
5.   Bob Timmermann
The official play-by-play of the game just gave up on describing the play:

T 1-10 T40 Blake Barmore pass complete to Shawn Thompson for 16 yards to the MSPS44,
Riley Curry for 44 yards to the MSPS0, 1ST DOWN TRINITY, TOUCHDOWN,
clock 00:00.

2007-10-28 11:01:59
6.   Jon Weisman
I don't know, but it is the end of the game, after all - it's not as if he's just getting to know these players. And the guy who scored is identified slowly. And wouldn't most announcers sound like Joe Starkey at the end? And would most announcers, given a chance to mull and prepare, want to sound like Joe Starkey at the end?
2007-10-28 11:03:57
7.   kngoworld
Possibility of a delay between video and sound?
2007-10-28 11:07:45
8.   Bob Timmermann
Upon further research, Trinity College does have live streaming video of its football games, so I think it was live and not rehearsed.

I withdraw my Joe Rosenthal/Iwo Jima accusation.

2007-10-28 11:10:14
9.   Linkmeister
I wish I could conclusively answer the question of after-dubbing. I saw that play two or three times on ESPN last night after the Bows' game, but I had the sound muted.

Doesn't everybody read while sports highlight shows are on? (In my case it was Clifford D. Simak's "Way Station," a wonderful 1971 story I'd never found before.)

2007-10-28 11:15:26
10.   Kevin Lewis
Is anyone else really bored with this World Series now? I mean, I wanted the Rockies to win it all, but I would have been happy if they lost it in 6. Now I just don't even care to watch anymore. Does that make me a bad person?

No need to answer that.

2007-10-28 11:17:18
11.   Jon Weisman
I don't think it's a stretch to say that people are less excited about the World Series after a team is down 3-0 than before.

But you never know when you'll see history. Just ask Trinity College!

2007-10-28 11:17:46
12.   Jon Weisman
I got pretty excited after Holliday's homer last night, myself.
2007-10-28 11:24:11
13.   Robert Fiore
Well, at least the Millsaps will have plenty to discuss when they watch the videos.
2007-10-28 11:27:28
14.   Bob Timmermann
The AP story says there were 15 laterals and seven different players involved.

If it were a DI game, the NCAA would probably go back and give every player who touched the ball receiving yards. But I think at one point, Trinity was behind the line of scrimmage.

2007-10-28 11:29:14
15.   Linkmeister
From my blog after the game last night:

2006 St. Louis 4, Detroit 1
2005 Chi. White Sox 4, Houston 0
2004 Boston 4, St. Louis 0
2003 Florida 4, NY Yankees 2
2002 Anaheim 4, San Francisco 3
2001 Arizona 4, NY Yankees 3
2000 NY Yankees 4, NY Mets 1

Those are the results of the World Series so far in the 21st century. Three were competitive (2001, 2002, 2003), four were not. It looks like 2007 is going to fall into the latter category too.

Then I added a cuss word which I'll refrain from putting in here.

2007-10-28 11:31:19
16.   Robert Daeley
That video just needs a sepia filter and some ragtime piano. Perfect.
2007-10-28 11:35:33
17.   ToyCannon
I stopped rooting for the Rockies when I found out they were going to use Josh Fogg and put Morales in the bullpen. Fogg deserved to get pounded and he did. Not every crappy pitcher has a Jose Lima moment in them.

My favorite part of the night was right after rookie Ellsbury got his 4th hit and rookie Pedroia followed with a double and then Buck said "Experience and Depth" is what is winning the series for Boston.

2007-10-28 11:44:54
18.   ToyCannon
LaRoche and D Young lead team USA to 1st victory in Arizona tuneup. It will be curious to see how Davy Johnson plays both LaRoche and Longoria. Yesterday LaRoche played 3rd and Longoria was the DH. The 1st game D Young was the DH and Longoria played 3rd and La Roche sat because of a reaction to a flu shot. D Young now has 5 hits in just two games.

If LaRoche and Longoria both win the starting 3rd base job for their respective teams in 2008, they would probably be the odds on favorites for ROY in their respective leagues.

In the HWB league, Josh Bell is stinking it up. On the bright side Steve Johnson is pitching great and DeWitt is hitting. They may be the only bright spots of all the players in the fall leagues. Orenduff is actually doing okay but he's not pitching much.

2007-10-28 11:56:18
19.   Bob Timmermann
I believe every day Dustin Pedroia makes an act of fealty and obedience to Mike Timlin.

Apparently, that keeps the Boston clubhouse happy.

2007-10-28 12:10:46
20.   Marty
All that video needed was a band on the field.
2007-10-28 12:21:11
21.   still bevens
17 I feel like Fogg had 2 Lima moments during the playoffs. He was due to get pounded.

It is kinda impressive how well the junkballers did during the post season. Doug Davis, Josh Fogg, Livan Hernandez, and Paul Byrd all had at least a win or a no decision.

2007-10-28 12:23:14
22.   dzzrtRatt
Why doesn't every football team about to lose a close game in the final seconds try this play? What do they have to lose? Today's football players act as if the lateral is illegal. Probably they're afraid of looking foolish, but if it works, you're an immortal.
2007-10-28 12:24:18
23.   dzzrtRatt
continuing the thought...

It's like bunting. Most of the time, laterals are a stupid idea, but used at the right time, it's brilliant.

2007-10-28 12:38:17
24.   MikeB
10. Well, the Hot Stove season can start up a bit earlier than we had hoped.
Fun topics this year will include the Mitchell's term paper for Selig & the resultant fall out, the A-Rod sweepstakes, roster changes, FA signings, arbitration settlements, phantom Dodger managerial change ... and probably a few others of major or minor note.
2007-10-28 12:52:30
25.   xaphor
They are the worst rugby team I have ever seen.
2007-10-28 13:08:52
26.   Robert Fiore
22: On the other hand, as you may recall, USC might have thrown away a national championship with a lateral a couple of years ago.
2007-10-28 13:46:03
27.   Dodgers49
10. I was hoping to see a Rockies sweep. Since that didn't happen I'd like to see Boston get this thing over with tonight so we can get on with Yankees/Dodgers Thoughts. :-)
2007-10-28 14:48:26
28.   dzzrtRatt
Over at Bronx Thoughts, they've got links to stories suggesting Girardi has won the Yankee manager tournament.

Donnie Baseball for Dodger bench coach?

2007-10-28 15:05:08
29.   willhite
28 -

I was about to ask if anyone on the Dodgers had current or former ties to Mattingly.......................and then I remembered we have Preston. That would certainly be an interesting angle. I definitely think that Girardi will get the Yankee job.

2007-10-28 15:15:36
30.   trainwreck
That was one of the most insane things I have ever seen.
2007-10-28 15:23:04
31.   underdog
welp, I'm on the train to nawlins. no problems so far (knock wood) and I've got plenty of writing to do (and dvds to watch if I get bored) but at least I'll have at least one day free of joe buck and co. will check the game via my phone ltr though.
and yes, I support mattingly for coach.
2007-10-28 15:30:23
32.   overkill94
What's with some of the defenders just standing around at the end while the guy's running right by them? I don't think you'd see anything that silly in Division I football unless a band is involved.
2007-10-28 16:00:09
33.   weatherman
SCAC football, baby.

(Rhodes College, class of '01)

2007-10-28 16:14:32
34.   Suffering Bruin
32 The talent pyramid is a little steeper in D3. I would guess that some of those kids were just dog tired near the end. Also, they might have assumed the man was down before the last lateral.

1 It was real; no one is that good an actor on dub. When I saw it last night on ESPN, I thought it was radio play-by-play dubbed on to game film. Either way, an unbelievable play.

2007-10-28 17:00:40
35.   nofatmike
As a Stanford fan, I wouldn't have thought you as a fan of a play involving mulitple lateral passes thats ends up as a game-winning touchdown on the last play of the game...
2007-10-28 17:28:59
36.   LogikReader
The ROCKIES... are who we THOUGHT they were!

I think Colorado has had a great season, no matter what the outcome of this World Series.

I have a very bad feeling about the Dodgers for 2008. Extremely bad feeling. Is this justified?

2007-10-28 17:32:39
37.   LogikReader
Thanks for linking us to that 30 lateral to victory video. Trinity is awesome! I got a kick out of the "The most sensational incredible ending in Division III football!" comment.
2007-10-28 18:38:15
38.   Jon Weisman
35 - It was interesting to see one with no illegal forward laterals.
2007-10-28 19:07:02
40.   Dodgers49
31. and yes, I support mattingly for coach.

Before he was the Yankee's bench coach Mattingly was the Yankee's batting coach. We have an opening for a hitting coach. So I'm starting a rumor right now that Mattingly will be the next Dodgers hitting coach. You can say I heard it from someone who heard it from someone who is on the inside but doesn't want to be identified because the Dodgers are waiting for the World Series to end.

2007-10-28 19:13:18
41.   dzzrtRatt
40 Just in reading a little about this situation today, if the Yankees don't name Mattingly as manager, it will be seen as a breach of faith. He apparently -- if I'm reading this right -- was led to believe he would take over whenever Torre left.

He might just go back to Indiana if someone else gets the job.

Cashman is said to want Girardi, while George wants Don.

2007-10-28 19:15:09
42.   Gen3Blue
40 I heard it from the same guy!

I've been lurking lately for reasons I'll explain later.

2007-10-28 19:50:37
43.   Gen3Blue
Uh-oh; that was a strike.
2007-10-28 19:52:33
44.   GIDP
A-Rod opts out.

2007-10-28 19:59:05
45.   Jon Weisman
44 - Thanks. I created a new post for this up top.
2007-10-28 20:02:03
46.   Bob Timmermann
Well, I did too, but I just am shamelessly trolling for hits.

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