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Yep - once again, the birthdays of Scully and Porter fall on the same day! All my best to both.
I was half Vinny's age on Friday, November 23: 79.98356164 compared to 39.99178082.
Can't wait to hear you next season.
Seriously, happy birthday gentlemen. And seriously, Ned can have Rowand if he moves JP.
you really need to get a life...
In this case, don't you mean a half-life?
In a group of 23 (or more) randomly chosen people, there is more than 50% probability that some pair of them will have the same birthday. For 57 or more people, the probability is more than 99%.
In fact, I still don't.
for n people
1-(365!/((365)^(n-1)*((366-n)!))
Use the recursive form if you want to compute that (or calculate it by hand and cancel out 365!/364!=365), because your computer doesn't even want to know what 365! is.
Anyway... happy bday Vin and Ross! Wish the latter would come back to replace Rick Monday.
vr, Xei
I guess Phil doesn't want Joe Torre to be the most successful coach in L.A. just yet.
I think TW and I often post little notes about what we see on BRO here just to pass the time.
Off to the cafe car for some peaches . . .
Which reminds me of this amusing story:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2011296/
If one person signs up then my work is done.
The fella sitting across from me has left an awful nice North Face windbreaker on the seat for about ten minutes now while he is off somewhere . . .
On a less pleasant note, USC's coach and several of its players are renewing their call for a playoff system to try and rescue the season they themselves wrecked. Funny thing: when they made the BCS in previous years, they did not see the merit in having playoffs. But now, shoe on other foot.
If they hadn't lost to a club team forced to field its second-string quarterback and hadn't been pushed around by Oregon, they would be playing for the title. Now, they can only whine.
Why the Dodgers are holding off announcing that they plan to spend the final two weeks of spring training in Phoenix is beyond me.
Add the Colorado Rockies, who are scheduled to host the Dodgers on March 23 at Hi Corbett Field in Tucson, to the growing list of Cactus League clubs that have finalized their spring schedules with the Dodgers listed as one of their opponents.
The Dodgers also have games scheduled with the Chicago White Sox on March 20 and Kansas City on March 26.
But when the Dodgers do finally announce this, just humor them and pretend to be surprised, OK?
But I still hate Notre Dame.
lltrainwreckll
Should be fun.
My mom is out from LA and she plans to take the kid to FAO Schwartz tomorrow to pick a Hanukkah present. That seems pretty hard core to me.
http://tinyurl.com/ypxlo7
41 - Jim, were you there for this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8PJaYzv44
http://XeiOnSports.blogspot.com/
In the 8 team playoff USC faces Missouri in the first round. In the 12 team playoff USC plays a play in game against Oklahoma with the winner taking on Missouri. In the 16 team playoff they also play Oklahoma in the first round but Missouri has to get by Central Michigan in the first round. In the 12 team playoff Hawaii plays VATech and in the 16 team playoff they face Kansas, they don't make the 8 team playoff. The playoff participants and seedings will change from week to week. I can't stand the Bowl system and it's dozen or so exhibition games.
vr, Xei
#2 Juan Pierre to CWS for Crede.
#3 Crede, Lowe, Abreu, Hendrickson, Proctor, Elbert, DeWitt, DeJesus and results from #1 to Baltimore for Tejada and Bedard.
Tejada plays 2B, Furcal plays CF, LaRoche plays 3B and Hu plays SS.
Penny/Bedard/Bills/Schmidt/Loaiza-Kuo
Get over it. A team that promotes its greatness, chokes, then demands the equivalent of a "do over" deserves to be criticized.
Thanks for the link; it was very cool.
Sounds like one of those logic problems: Six friends have pairs of birthdays that are one day apart, one month apart, and one year apart. Richard was born in February. Timmy always wears a red baseball cap. Martha cannot be seated next to Jim or Sandra. Who is the driver of the bus?
A woman with much to learn about how twins work.
Ever been to UCLA?
My first son's due date was the same as my niece's birthday, but he came five days early.
My second son's due date is the same as my nephew's birthday.
http://www.sonsofstevegarvey.com/2007/11/unwatchable-mortifying-galling.html
First of all, until I actually see this picture, rather than hear about it, I'm going to assume it doesn't exist. Don't you think such a picture would be all over the place, given the notoriety and on-going debate on The Play, rather than appearing once in a newspaper, then going about its business? Not to belabor the metaphor, but this photo would be the Zapruder film. So then I'm supposed to believe in a vast conspiracy of Cal fans, the CIA, and anti-Castro Cubans suppressing evidence pertaining to the end of a college football game. I wish Cal football had that kind of power.
Second, as everyone knows, the officials huddled for a good long time after the conclusion of The Play. If one of them had, indeed, whistled (or waved) The Play dead, would he not have offered up that information to his colleagues? Has his silence been bought all these years?
Resume baseball/birthday discussion.
It's very easy to remember. She says it's a bad day to have a birthday. People celebrate her birthday on New Year's Eve and she really just wants to go to sleep, but she is forced to stay up until midnight.
Actually the official was preemptively throwing a flag on Frank Wycheck.
I share it with Tom Waits,Johnny Bench, Harry Chapin, and Larry Bird.
Also, on my birthday this year, a certain Undiscovered Territory would, if it existed, celebrate the 220th anniversary of its ratifying the US Constitution - the first state to do so.
I've actually moved on - despite what Bob would think - but there's objectively no way that the call should have stood. The notion that Cal committed no infraction on the return simply doesn't stand scrutiny. I'm not trying to fight it ... it just is that clear to me.
What's funny is that just last week, just before halftime, Notre Dame had an incredible 99-yard lateral return against Stanford that got nullified by something of a dubious penalty. The penalty occured before the laterals began - the return itself was clean. But no one seemed to notice.
Don't hate us for being great.
And, preferring an equitable playoff system is not a do over - as long as your team is good enough to qualify.
Good luck in the Final Four this year.
So Jon is not like members of the 1972 USA Olympic basketball team and he has not written a portion of his will that prevents his heirs from ever acknowledging that Cal won the 1982 Big Game legitimately.
Although I do think Alexsandr Belov was on the field.
(Even though he died in 1978.)
I actually saw the ND return. I don't really remember what the penalty was, but I didn't get the impression it was all that dubious. Refresh my memory. I found the whole thing fairly amusing, in context. I'm sure it was a big thrill for Stanford folks to have that play called back.
I hear the exact same things.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e105aebf92
For those not scoring at home:
S 1-10 N41 1D-Pritchard, T. pass intercepted by 27-BRUTON at the ND3, 27-BRUTON return 3 yards to the ND6, 9-ZBIKOWSKI for 24 yards to the ND30, 9-ZBIKOWSKI for 14 yards to the ND44, PENALTY ND personal foul (98-LAWS) 15 yards to
the ND29, 1st and 10, ND ball on ND29.
Why on earth was that ever made? Why did they enjoy doing it? Why... why God why...?? Still, I laughed out loud. When I wasn't crying.
you guys notice when Vinnie gets the day off the camera guys go crazy picking out hot girls in the stands? It mainly happens on East Coast games.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UP5YFr4SkCQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=57DdviStOFo
http://tinyurl.com/2wh6jp
I am going to say Not Safe For Work just because they are weird.
As for coincidental birthdays, I think I have an ace in my hand. I was born 3 days after my brother's 8th birthday.... which proves, I suppose, that my parents were creatures of habit more than anything else. And the very first friend that I made (or that I can remember making) on my first day of kindergarten was born on the same day as me. Almost 40 years on, we're still good friends.
The middle initial/name thing is annoyingly pretentious.
Blame the Screen Actors Guild.
112 Okay, Mr. "4".
My shared birthdays of note (not baseball, we did that a couple of days ago) - George Harrison, John Foster Dulles, Kurt Rambis, Jason Bateman, Renoir, Jim Backus. That's a pretty sweet list. Feb. 25, by the way, so you all still have a bit of shopping time.
I remember my first couple days at Stanford, part of the orientation was to be indoctrinated on The Play. They showed a film to us, paused it periodically, and pointed out the numerous ways in which the play "should" have been called dead or a penalty called. I was rather detached from the whole thing -- I had never seen the play before and it would have been hard to call me a fan of Stanford football two days into my college career. In fact, I truthfully had never heard of Stanford when I applied and didn't realize it was such a big deal to get in until I started getting a lot of attention about it in high school. I went on to develop a strong sense of school spirit, and a part of me would feel good if it turned out the Play was somehow nullified (e.g. an official from the game recanted the call on his deathbed, or new technology was able to enhance the footage somehow). But really, it's never been that big of a deal for me. I would probably feel differently had I been there.
I feel a much stronger affection for 1990, a game I attended, when Stanford scored 10 points in the final 12 seconds to steal the victory at Cal. It's especially memorable for me because I was the only one insisting to my friends that Stanford would pull out the game -- I had that magical feeling of believing you can influence the game just by wishing hard enough. As we walked out of the stadium at Berkeley that day, all of us agreed this was the payback for The Play, so since then I consider it a dead issue.
Sit down kid and let me tell you about living in the 1970s.
The newest American Girl doll has a 1970s backstory.
Tell me more...
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This isn't about me, it's about those guys...!
The aughts will be prime for being made fun of. Thankfully, I never followed any fashion fads. I still make fun of my friends who wore their clothes backwards like Kriss Kross.
Well that's the real question, isn't it? Why? The how and the who is just scenery for the public. Kapp, Moen, Elway, the Pac-10. Keeps 'em guessing like some kind of parlor game, prevents 'em from asking the most important question, why? Why did the touchdown count? Who benefited? Who has the power to cover it up? Who?
118 Do not get me started on American Girl. Don't.
You mean like pleated/cuffed pants...?
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0389058/
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0717702/
I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at, but prior to this conversation, I had always assumed that someone (e.g. an agent, a movie person, etc.) told these guys to insert the middle initial/name for gimmicky reasons. So maybe that's what you're implying.
I believe Stanford scored 9 points in the final 12 seconds in 1990. The Cal fans drew a penalty after running on the field after the Bears stopped a 2-point conversion.
Every actor in SAG or Actors Equity has to have a unique name.
https://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/561908.html
Oh, I get it now.
As an aside, how common is pool storming?
http://www.kevinmoen.com
Famous people with my birthday: Maria Callas, Britney Spears, Monica Seles, Tracy Austin, Lucy Liu, Michael McDonald, one of the Ringling Brothers.
I never imagined it possible for the Dodgers to be able to get rid of him, but now it's starting to seem like a distinct possibility!
Anyone think it will get done?
"I would have signed for less," said Hunter, , who had five-year offers, ranging from $70 million to $75 million, from the White Sox, Rangers and Royals....
What if the Angels offered less than those other teams?
"I still would have taken it!" Hunter said. "Arte [Moreno, Angels owner], he didn't want to negotiate. It was like, 'Wham, take it or leave it.' I was like, 'Whoa, that's nice.' They gave me 24 hours, and I gave them [my decision] in five hours. There was really no thinking, because that's the team I wanted to be with."
http://tinyurl.com/38ejts
There's that. Plus, some couples might be more likely to copulate (and to do so more frequently) during certain times of the year, whether because of schedules, randiness, etc.
is one.
There is another, a chicago tribune rumor essentially saying Pierre for Uribe.
I read a Blalock for Pierre & meLoan, but then realized it was just someone speculating.
John Foster Dulles....ouch...
137 - Very cool! You and how many others? Was this for one of those super packed full flights, or did you score a spot in one of those pimped-out luxury A380s?
Would love the Pierre for Uribe deal though!
Also, every U.S. president who was worth a damn was inaugurated on my birthday.
But just Washington's second term started on March 4.
http://tinyurl.com/yrtlbs
March 4 also gains you W.H. Harrison, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, U.S. Grant, and Rutherford B. Hayes.
In solidarity with my brethren at Missouri-Kansas City, Missouri-St. Louis, and Missouri-Rolla I oppose this development.
Boomer Sooner!
http://tinyurl.com/yo5z6v
Few people in the NBA deserve more misery than Isiah Thomas.
And for once, I'm not alone in this feeling!
It's not contrarian when you're right!
Fight On!
http://www.rangerfans.com/archives/2007/11/corporate_sponorships.html
but, i've always got 1944 to think about on my birthday.
The Nile was diverted on my birthday!
My best birthday buddy is Will Rogers.
Was that Bill Madlock? Where was Steve Sax?
Jon Weisman notes that Vin shares a birthday with Ross Porter. So, happy birthday, Ross! We miss you! Notice there is no DT poster named TellMeTheScoreRossPorter!
I thought that was funny.
And, not to suggest in any way that is not a cool and awesome topic, but didn't we have a long birthday buddy/birthday paradox conversation in the last year.
I recall pulling out Larry Bird and Tom Waits before.
BTW, does anyone else recall Delaware Punch?
I finally watched it. That's entertainment you can't find anymore.
I drank Delaware Punch as a kid. Perhaps that's an explanation for my Delaware psychosis.
http://tinyurl.com/mtxl4
I dont know what the general consensus is on Joe Blanton is but I'd rather have Haren, however I'm sure the price is going to be steep. Considering the fact its Billy Beane on the other end.
The episode was called "Cougars."
I haven't laughed that hard in a long while.
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Did you see that amazing half court shot at the end of that Celtics game. That was the only highlight the Knicks had all night.
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By the way, how's that Ariza trade working out for the Lakers? I don't think the Magic miss him yet (14-3).
I thought Torri Hunter was from L.A. but I guess he's not, I just checked his Wikipedia page. Why does he like L.A. so much then...
Id rather sign Kuroda and keep our players.
I'm also afraid of AZ getting a top pitcher if we scoop up Kuroda...
I agree with Nate on Kuroda, though Haren seems very good. The report I read indicates they will ask far too much:
http://tinyurl.com/356h8e
In fact, count this as a placeholder for the future -- I agree with Nate, unless I specify otherwise. He and Canuck can share our GM duties as far as I'm concerned.
Pat Cowan will try to repeat history on Saturday.
A high-ranking Major League Baseball executive said that McCourt recently stated that he was open to bringing the NFL back to Los Angeles. Other well-placed sources in the local sports community said McCourt and unnamed partners have plans to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into upgrading Dodger Stadium and the surrounding parking lot, perhaps with restaurants and shops, before making an all-out pitch to swing a football stadium deal.
http://tinyurl.com/2uh8p3
Do you mean "Can Pat Cowan spur the UCLA offense to a total of 235 yards again?"
A Coliseum Commission executive said his office received scores of "incredibly threatening" phone calls after USC posted a letter on its website urging fans to complain.
Some of the commission's nine members said they had been harassed too, and at least one has canceled plans to attend the regular-season finale against UCLA on Saturday.
"I've gotten many, many calls along the following lines: 'Hey, Mr. Chadwick, hope our paths don't cross. Understand you're married, you've got three little girls,' " Commissioner Bill Chadwick said.
"That's taking it to a low, low level," he said. "When you send something out to your entire alumni, don't expect every response to be rational."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpihPFd_JFc
I don't know if Patrick Cowan remembers much of this season.
If Cowan lasts four quarters, I'll be pretty surprised. Confidence is low in Camp Timmermann.
I seem to remember low morale emanating from Camp Timmermann last year too, and that turned out pretty good for you.
Confidence is lower this year.
I think Pittsburgh has a better chance of beating West Virginia than UCLA has of beating USC.
Wow. Actually, I was pretty confident last year because of the chance to go to the BCS Championship.
I would be more confident this year but 13-9 has lowered my expectations.
Won't E Scott be the speaker? He will get people interested. Hopefully new coach keeps him on.
I was wondering why in the world you would do that, but then I remembered that UCLA has a football team.
USC also has revenge factor going this year. They will want to bury UCLA.
UCLA won the last such game, 27-21 in 1993 (the Wayne Cook to J.J. Stokes, Rob Johnson to Marvin Goodwin game), which stopped a streak of 10 straight USC wins in games with the Rose Bowl on the line (1967-1988).
And it might just be the last game at the Coliseum because the USC fans will tear it down.
And Memphis should be very concerned about Tuesday in the Garden.
I hear that, but I think USC would/should be ecstatic to go to the Rose Bowl (if they win, of course). After the Oregon loss, their season was effectively over, and the Sun Bowl looked like merely a hope on the far horizon.
USC has an infinitesimal chance of getting into the BCS title game, so that should be the furthest thing from their mind. The best thing they can accomplish now is simply going to the Rose Bowl, so any kind of win (blowout, close, epic comeback) would be great.
Please, UCLA keep on this guy so I can rule the LA area for years to come.
I also think Petey fears Chow coming to UCLA.
I think Dick Vermeil could whip up some emotion for the job.
Chow or Leach. And either of them will look great compared to KD.
UCLA fans on message boards hate everyone and everything it seems. They'd criticize Jesus for falling over three times on the way to Calvary.
Definite issues, but there were also issues with UCLA basketball and with the right hire those really are not much of an issue anymore. I think the right coach can change things quite a bit. Cal is a good example of that.
Every one wanted to beleive that things could'nt be great again.
The consensus then was that he was a dubious hire at best.
I've just given up about the whole thing. I think it's time to pack it in and call UCLA "Duke West."
Well who knows what group of players we will have. Most of our players are leaving and we have no idea what is going to happen with our class as guys are de-committing left and right.
Rather, just overly discouraged right now.
I would be too.
I wonder how Cowan feels about it.
I don't believe the quotes attributed to the UCLA lineman in the Times today.
I believe that he has the same number of wins over USC as Karl Dorrell and Dorrell's Bruins are 3-2 against Cal during Dorrell tenure.
But the main difference is that Cal's fan base were so enamored with the change, they gave him time to grow and the school backed it up with salary increases as well as plans to build and refurbish facilities.
I'm ready to give up because it seems that the average UCLA fan (who are not necessarily UCLA fans who post here) is decidedly below average. They whine. They complain. They cannot be satisfied. They expect something that cannot happen: a football team that will got 12-0 every year for the next 20 years.
Some tell me that the years I was at UCLA, that the football team was terrible. Despite the fact that UCLA won the Pac-10 twice and the Rose Bowl each time. But it wasn't good enough. It's some weird freaky historical revisionism.
The second half of the season, hello Joe.
Yes, that happens. But I'm more disturbed about how UCLA's teams of the mid 1980s are considered failures by some fans now.
Some UCLA fans want the team to lose Saturday and I find that unconscionable.
Except for fans of Caltech.
I just want UCLA to be a top 25 worthy team and be in the Rose Bowl from time to time. I honestly do not see why we can't compete with USC. We just have to be smarter than them. The best way to compete with them is to take advantage of the fact that they now recruit on a national level so we can steal more talented players out of Southern California.
For the last 5 years I have wanted the Raiders to just be 8-8. I dream of an 8-8 season.
I will be happy next year if UCLA wins 5 games.
That was what UCLA was like when I attended. UCLA went 3-1 against USC (and were upset in their only loss) and beat Illinois and Iowa in two Rose Bowls. They also beat Miami in the Fiesta Bowl and BYU in the Freedom Bowl.
I was happy. But some fans would tell me that the teams underachieved.
Silly Pac-10 and its Sunday hoops schedule.
We are going to need a big game out of Love and Luc this Sunday.
If we were playing in the non-early entry era, Texas would have a flat-out unbeatable team this year.
PG DJ Augustin
SG Daniel Gibson
SF P.J. Tucker
PF Kevin Durant
C LaMarcus Aldridge
Bench
C.J. Miles
A.J. Abrams
Damion James
Justin Mason
whew.
Oregon had never, in its 105-year history, been in this position: on the road, facing a ranked opponent outside its conference.
That's hard to believe.
I think Bob's solution is simple -- stop talking to bad UCLA fans. UCLA was successful while he was there, and nothing anyone else says can change that. Keeps your memories, be happy, ignore the idiots.
Then I'd designate Pierre for a little thing I like to call "Assignment".
That's a great team, for sure, but wouldn't a lot of other schools boast great squads as well?
Furcal, Abreu, Young, Loney, Martin, Nomar/Dewitt, Repko, (player obtained from a trade of Kent/Loiza/MacDonald)
Santana, Bedard, Billingsley, Penny, Kershaw/MacDonald/Loiza/Kuo
Just posturing--not proposing
It has certainly been the surprise of the off-season thus far that Pierre's name has surfaced in trade talks.
BTW: I walked by "Trace" yesterday on campus. He was clean-shaven.
Thanks, Daniel. Sometimes I fear the idiots have taken over. They will soon come and take me away to a UCLA re-education camp.
But wouldn't UCLA and Texas have wanted to play on a Sunday this weekend since UCLA definitely had a football game scheduled and Texas had a very good chance of having to play one.
I didn't talk to him, as we was walking with someone else (a female) and I doubt he saw me. It took me a second to figure out who he was, given that I recognized his face.
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Ah: I had assumed his name was "Tracy" and that he went by "Trace". I guess "Tres" might make more sense.
I don't think Georgetown was ranked at the time the game was played.
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I think it was our last dinner there too. I guess George actually sold the property, at least that half. I assume he still owns Vin Rouge.
The Hoyas were #18 when they lost to Oregon in DC last year.
Well then: my skepticism was warranted. I have a hard time believing that any Division 1 school hasn't played a ranked non-conference opponent on the road.
The Oregon media guide was my source for the #18 ranking. Early in the year, the bottom half of the top 25 is pretty fluid.
Now I'm skeptical about their ranking...
G-Hopper is now (and has been since just a few weeks after G-Hopper closed) "Blu Seafood and Bar", which is owned and operated by someone other than George.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=271129013
Oregon will have its Pac-10 tournament title revoked for this transgression.
Either that or make one of its players spell his first name "Marty."
Have you eaten there?
We have. My wife, a seafood expert, is somewhat indifferent. But she's willing to give it time, as new restaurants usually take a while to get their act together.
At least they can't revoke our POY award...
Season high was what the writer meant.
Walton's career high in the NBA is 25 points.
On an unrelated note, DirecTV rules! ;-) Imus fans set your DVRs for Monday morning at 3:00AM Pacific, RFD TV channel 379 on that provider, Monday morning, December 3.
Please stop trying to make me like Eric Dolphy. I understand why you think I should--but I don't.
Thanks.
As BA prepares their Dodger top 10 list, prospect author Deric McKamey displayed his top 15. We may have only signed one guy this spring but at least we signed the right guy. Pedro Baez after only one year has moved up to the 9th spot on his list and has surpassed the much more ballyhooed Josh Bell.
Here is the scouting report.
Strengths: Strength. Bat speed/power/BA ability. Plus arm strength. Range. Soft hands
Weaknesses: Strike zone judgment. Speed
Comments: Maturely built youngster with bat speed and strong wrists that are capable of plus power. Lacks pitch recognition, so BA may fluctuate in lower minors. Below average runner and will have to watch body. Possesses plus arm strength and soft hands in providing above average defense.
That's an interesting package, but i would rejec it too.
The Orioles and Dodgers have also had discussions about Bedard. Center fielder Matt Kemp, reliever Jonathan Broxton and pitching prospect Clayton Kershaw are among the names discussed, sources say.
http://www.truebluela.com/story/2007/11/30/114848/97
Stan from Tacoma
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