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It's Like The Amazing Race*!
2007-12-12 14:05
by Jon Weisman

Some names you know, some names you don't, but come March, they'll all be part of history – the Florida-China-Arizona Spring Training Extravaganza. From the Dodgers:

Right-handed pitchers Tanyon Sturtze, Mike Koplove and Brian Falkenborg headline the group and will be joined by fellow right-handers Rick Asadoorian, Fernando Desgue and Greg Jones. Left-handed hurler Brian Shackelford, outfielder John-Ford Griffin, first-baseman John Lindsey, infielder Angel Chavez and catcher Danny Ardoin are the others coming to Vero Beach, joining catcher Rene Rivera, pitcher Chan-Ho Park and infielder Terry Tiffee, who were previously announced as non-roster invitees.

Sturtze, Falkenborg, Lindsey and Park have all been in the Dodger organization before - Lindsey hit 30 minor-league homers for the Dodgers last year. Sturtze, of course, was in the famous Brian Myrow trade.

*I have never seen The Amazing Race, so I don't know if it's really like that.

Comments (66)
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2007-12-12 14:21:04
1.   D4P
There's a TV show (popular, at that) Jon has never seen...?
2007-12-12 14:22:04
2.   Jon Weisman
My forays into unscripted TV are few and far between.
2007-12-12 14:22:12
3.   JoeyP
What happened to Kurt Ainsworth?
2007-12-12 14:28:32
4.   Penarol1916
I watched Amazing Race once when they went to Uruguay, I've never been so disappointed.
2007-12-12 14:29:29
5.   therickdaddy
OMG -- Rowand to the Giants. That puts Roberts in LF.
2007-12-12 14:30:25
6.   GMac In The 909
I'd love to see Chan Ho and Tim Belcher buddy up and race around the world.
2007-12-12 14:30:43
7.   D4P
That puts Roberts in LF

We may not be in a position to laugh much about that.

2007-12-12 14:31:28
8.   Chuck Churn
Good question re Ainsworth. He was a top prospect pre surgery. I thought it was a nice gamble when we signed him.

Assuming that we sign Kuroda, would our pitching staff look something like this?


If so, what happens to Hendrickson, Kuo, and Brazaban? It is unlikely that we would go with 12 hurlers. And why are there rumors about Ned trying to obtain another reliever? Makes no sense to me.

2007-12-12 14:33:08
9.   regfairfield
8 We almost always have 12 pitchers. Seanez is a free agent so he isn't an option any more.
2007-12-12 14:33:54
10.   Jon Weisman
Does Yhency have yhoptions remaining?
2007-12-12 14:34:07
11.   underdog
I'm quietly rooting for John Lindsey to be last man on the roster.

Oh man, Tanyon Sturtze?? That hurtze.

Anyway, those are all guys in the "snowball's chance in (you know where)" of making the team, but perhaps one of them will make it despite the odds.

2007-12-12 14:35:07
12.   therickdaddy
7 - At least we have options (Ethier, Young).
2007-12-12 14:35:44
13.   NorCal-Dodger
Incredible how things work out. Ned overpaid for JP last year, so that he won't be a SF Gnats.

Now that the Gnats won out over the ChiSox for Rowand, Kenny Williams may come a knocking on Ned's door for a speedy CF.

Then Kuroda, announces he will go with the Blue, and our Christmas wish will come true!

2007-12-12 14:36:03
14.   D4P
It is unlikely that we would go with 12 hurlers

Why so?

Other guy

Abreu/Valdez/Hu/New PVL


That's 12 guys. Would we really add someone else?

2007-12-12 14:38:28
15.   Eric Stephen
Apparently the Dodgers have offered a one-year deal to Seanez for 2008.

I don't think Brazoban has options left. He has on the 40-man since late 2004. Not sure how his DL time affects things though.

2007-12-12 14:39:00
16.   regfairfield
10 I'd have to believe so, when was the last time he was in the minors not on a rehab assignment?
2007-12-12 14:43:33
17.   Eric Stephen
I don't think it matters if a player is sent down or not for option purposes. From the great Rob Neyer "Transactions Primer":

When you hear that a player is "out of options," that means he's been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he'll have to clear waivers.

Brazoban was on the 40-man in 2005, 2006, & 2007, meaning those were his 3 option years. I think. :)

2007-12-12 14:43:51
18.   Chuck Churn
If we sign Kuroda and carry 12 pitchers, then I guess Kuo is the 12th man? He is recovering from surgery. What is his health status?
2007-12-12 14:44:00
19.   Andrew Shimmin
Meloan and Hull have to a have a reasonable shot of making the team, don't they?
2007-12-12 14:45:27
20.   Eric Stephen
I believe we can ask Kuo's physician, Dr. Clubber Lang, for his prediction on Kuo's arm.
2007-12-12 14:45:35
21.   fanerman
18 We can just have Guo pinch-hit if we need him.
2007-12-12 14:45:49
22.   Jon Weisman
14 - Young? Or even Repko?
2007-12-12 14:46:46
23.   Jon Weisman
22 - But that would be 13 position players even with Young, which would still allow for 12 pitchers. The question is whether we go to 14 players.
2007-12-12 14:46:52
24.   Eric Stephen
Hull has a better chance to make the club if Meloan is converted to starter. I'd guess Meloan The Starter is more likely to start the season in Vegas so he can pitch in a regular rotation.
2007-12-12 14:48:14
25.   D4P
Neither Young nor Repko would presumably ever start barring injury, and I don't see Ned considering either to be a viable PH option. (Neither is old enough).
2007-12-12 14:48:31
26.   JoeyP
14--Delwyn Young, Mark Sweeney, or another professional pinch hitter.
2007-12-12 14:48:41
27.   regfairfield
17 I don't think that's true. Adam Melhuse somehow still had options left this year.
2007-12-12 14:49:33
28.   regfairfield
Young has to be on there, as much as I don't like the guy, there's no way we put him on waivers.
2007-12-12 14:51:47
29.   scareduck
I tried to watch The Amazing Race with some friends who are big fans. I just couldn't understand why they were so interested.
2007-12-12 14:54:29
30.   Andrew Shimmin
Small talk, in the event any of you meet Jessica Alba in the next nine months.

2007-12-12 14:57:11
31.   Sushirabbit
BTW, Titans fans are hoping Chow goes to UCLA.
2007-12-12 14:59:14
32.   StolenMonkey86
7 - But it makes the Chisox more desperate for a CF. There is hope.


21 - Well, that solves the question of lefty pinch hitter.

2007-12-12 14:59:33
33.   fanerman
I've probably watched about 15 seconds of reality TV in my life. It was an episode of Survivor and the contestants were doing some strange pagan ritual (at least that's what it looked like). On top of not being interesting, it did not seem very wholesome either. I changed the channel and never looked back.
2007-12-12 15:01:18
34.   Jon Weisman
30 - Just pass along yesterday's DT thread.

Michael Warren sits in front of my parents at UCLA basketball games, so I used to see Cash often when he was in high school and I was going to games a lot.

2007-12-12 15:02:51
35.   LogikReader
Jon, Michael Scott could tell you all about The Amazing Race
2007-12-12 15:03:02
36.   Eric Stephen
I found this in an old Mariners' mailbag on

"Once a player is placed on the team's 40-man roster, he has three option years. A team can send a player down or call him up as many times as they want during an option year. For some players, that process is exhausted quickly, while for others, option years can remain well into a career. It is not unusual for a veteran to still have an option left if he rose quickly through an organization and stayed at the big-league level. A player with at least five years of service can refuse an option, however, and become a free agent if he wishes. Once a player is out of options, and the team wants to send him down, he must be outrighted, which also exposes him to waivers. This means another team can claim him within 72 hours. At that point, the releasing team can either pull him back or lose rights to him."

Brazoban probably has two option years left, since that will push him into the 5 years of MLB service time.

2007-12-12 15:04:48
37.   xaphor
You know you are out of the pop culture loop when you think of this:

It appears Tanyon Sturtze has dibs on Dastardly Dan.

2007-12-12 15:06:43
38.   Andrew Shimmin
Do parents start thinking about pacifiers and swaddling before delivery? I'm thinking, "Hey, do you know why you're not falling over, right now?" has more immediacy. Plus, a conversation that involves discussion of lower lumbar vertebrae and hip joints is headed in the right direction. Talk about SIDS, sleepless nights, and slobbery plastic sucking devices is not.
2007-12-12 15:07:02
39.   bhsportsguy
10 Yhency was optioned in 2004, spent 2005 and 2006 on the MLB roster (DL counts) and was optioned ever so briefly in 2007. I believe 2004 was his first season on a 40-man roster, so he does have one more option left.

I am pretty sure Repko has options available also.

2007-12-12 15:08:53
40.   Jon Weisman
38 - You are totally right.
2007-12-12 15:09:23
41.   bhsportsguy
34 Time is moving on, now he will be known as the father of the guy who had a baby with Jessica Alba instead of one of the great ensemble cast memebers of HSB or even futher back, great guard on 2 NCAA championship teams (though some guy named Alcindor helped a little too).
2007-12-12 15:09:29
42.   Eric Stephen
I'm not sure if rehab stints count as options, so the option ghame may not be over for two more years.
2007-12-12 15:09:54
43.   D4P
Even more reason for you to re-think the pleats.

I'm not sure they've yet been conducted, but if they were to be, studies would show that men who wear pleated pants have more kids than men who don't.

2007-12-12 15:10:30
44.   bhsportsguy
39 Info from BaseballCube and the Dodgers' official transactions records.
2007-12-12 15:11:52
45.   bhsportsguy
42 From

5/5/07 Activated RHP Yhency Brazoban from his Minor League rehab assignment and optioned him to Triple-A Las Vegas.

2007-12-12 15:11:54
46.   LOB
Maybe you guys already know this, but ITD says we non-tendered Hendrickson.

That means bye-bye, right?

2007-12-12 15:12:44
47.   Eric Stephen
I stand corrected. Brazoban was optioned on May 5, 2007, after his rehab assignment.
2007-12-12 15:14:50
48.   Andrew Shimmin
Oh happy day!
2007-12-12 15:16:03
49.   natepurcell


2007-12-12 15:16:19
50.   silverwidow
I told ya Hendrickson would be gone, Eric. :)
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2007-12-12 15:16:45
51.   trainwreck
Ford-Griffin used to be a big time prospect with the Yankees then became nothing when he was traded.

A Yankee prospect flaming out after a big build up, say it ain't so!

2007-12-12 15:18:05
52.   Jon Weisman
I feel I had to be among the first who stated without reservation that Hendrickson would be gone. I take pride in that.
2007-12-12 15:19:46
53.   D4P
Who'd we trade for Hendrickson in the first place? I get all the Tampa trades confused.
2007-12-12 15:19:46
54.   fanerman
Andruw announced. Rowand to the Giants. No more Hendrickson. Today has been pretty good.
2007-12-12 15:19:47
55.   Eric Stephen
Repko was optioned to the minors in 2005 & 2006, after being added to the 40-man in November 2004. He spent all of 2007 on the major league DL, and has one option year left.
2007-12-12 15:21:06
56.   driches
commenters at mccovey chronicles are hoping for a trade of one of their extraneous CFers to the white sox, probably for crede.

are we in a race to trade bad cfers to the white sox?

2007-12-12 15:21:14
57.   Andrew Shimmin
Navarro/Seo for Hendrickson/Hall
2007-12-12 15:21:53
58.   Eric Stephen
Since Hendrickson was the only one mentioned by Josh, are we to assume that Repko & Brazoban will be tendered contracts as well (along with locks Beimel & Proctor)?
2007-12-12 15:23:48
59.   Bob Timmermann
Michael Warren sits in front of my parents at UCLA basketball games,

bhsportsguy has lots of discussion with Ray Ling who sits in front of him at Pauley Pavilion.

2007-12-12 15:26:18
60.   Andrew Shimmin
For posterity's sake, here's the eighth best left-hander in the AL press release:

2007-12-12 15:29:27
61.   Andrew Shimmin
The next day (after Nate spoke truth to power):

"More on the Hendrickson trade for my "spin," I should have said that he has been one of the top lefties in the AL this season. There's no debating that, statisically. . . When he's on grass, he's pretty darn good."

2007-12-12 15:30:55
62.   trainwreck
Nice one, Bob.

Howland just announced that Keefe is going to red-shirt.

2007-12-12 15:32:40
63.   Jon Weisman
2007-12-12 15:34:08
64.   Eric Stephen
An outfield glut?

Since Repko will apparently be tendered a contract, here is the OF situation:

RF - Kemp
CF - Andruw
LF - Pierre

Young (out of options)
Repko (one option year left)

I doubt all 6 players make the 25-man, unless Delwyn is used as some sort of super utility in the OF & 2B as well.

Barring a trade, Repko is the most likely to be sent to the minors since Delwyn Young is out of options, but why would the Dodgers pay Repko $500-$600k to be the 6th OFer? Maybe Repko and Young battle in spring training for the 5th OF spot, but I'd hate to lose Young on waivers.

2007-12-12 15:53:35
65.   Gen3Blue
I'm not sure this is really equivalent; but
"why would the D's pay Repko $500-600k to be the 6th Ofer?".
Why would the D's spend multiple Mil $00000
Dollars to have Tomko/Hendricksen/Loiaza etc. to be their seventh starter. Seems a lot more excessive, although I know depth is important for starters, as we proved last year. The magnitude of this extravagance is one or two orders, for no reason I can see. One could pitch Houlton for instance at perhaps less than 500-600K.
2007-12-12 15:55:55
66.   caseybarker
Rick Asaadorian was the five-tool prospect for the Sox. When did he become a pitcher?

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