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April 25 Game Chat
2008-04-25 18:35
by Jon Weisman
Comments (340)
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2008-04-25 19:17:21
1.   KG16
So, assuming the pitcher hits 9th all season, how many possible combinations are there for Torre to play with in the line up?
2008-04-25 19:20:10
2.   Bob Timmermann
The number will change because there have already been many different players on the roster and then there will be September callups.

The formula would be:
n C r = n! / [(n-r)! r!]

2008-04-25 19:22:17
3.   Bob Timmermann
With 14 players in 8 slots, I believe there are 3003 combinations.
2008-04-25 19:25:52
4.   Sam in SC
i hate to drag this conversation down, but will extra innings ever get our game on?
2008-04-25 19:27:16
5.   Bob Timmermann
I would start rooting for Kevin Youkilis to make his way around the bases.
2008-04-25 19:27:32
6.   Eric Stephen
If you have EI on cable, some times they will show the game on an open channel without advertising it (or at least delayed notice) so you may need to flip around.

You know, when the Dodger game actually starts.

2008-04-25 19:28:02
7.   KG16
4 - I'd be happy if FSNHD would get it on, instead of Angels Live... Kevin Kennedy has mentioned not only what he did as a manager, but also what he would do if he was managing today.

I'd kind of like to see Kennedy and Lyons doing play by play on a game... yes, of course that might just be the lack of alcohol talking

2008-04-25 19:28:57
8.   Indiana Jon
Takes me so long to type that I just LATed myself by a long shot in the last thread, but I wanted to share this again here.

I just returned from a trip to Huntsville, AL, where I was able to see the Suns play last night. Unfortunately, I couldn't stick around to see Kershaw pitch tonight, but what a great time I had last night. I got to the game early and was able to get tickets in the first row right behind the dugout, so when the Suns came out I was able to have conversation with a few of them. It helped that there were only a few hundred people in the stands and most of those were on the Huntsville side. I had a quick opportunity to chat with McDonald as he came out to stretch before warming up, but he was either really focused, shy, or just didn't want to talk much. Shortly thereafter, I was able to get Laroche's attention. He came over, offered to sign autographs and talked to me for a couple minutes about his hand and being happy to be back. He says the hand is doing great, and then he even showed it to me, as if that would prove that it was good. He seems like a real nice guy. I tried to get some information on when he might me moving up from the Suns or if he would be heading to LA, but he either didn't know or wasn't going to share it with me, no surprise. After spotting Kershaw during warm ups (wearing number 36 instead of the 22 that my program listed) and failing to get his attention, I couldn't seem to spot him at all in the dugout during the game. I assumed for a while that he was down in the bullpen, which is inaccessible to fans since the stands stop at about 1st base. About the 7th inning, I finally asked another player (Jacobs) where he was tonight, and to my surprise he told me that he was up in the stands behind home plate charting pitches. Well, it might have been the wrong thing to do, interrupting him at his work, but I headed over to the home plate area and spotted him. It wasn't too hard since he was the only large, 20 year old, left handed writing guy in the area. Me and a friend of mine walked down, sat right now to him and were able to have about a ten minute conversation. At first, I just sat down said "Hi Clayton" and then asked if if I was intruding. He invited us to sit and had quite a fun conversation. He seems like a very down to earth and extremely polite kid. He actually thanked us several times for the nice comments about him and for being fans. During the exchange, I was able to find out that he was aware of the "Minotaur" nickname, and he has seen the YouTube video (that one brought quite a laugh when I asked him about it). I was able to sneak in a plug for Dodger Thoughts too and he seemed interested that so many Dodger fans actually were following his every pitch in AA. All in all, it was quite a nice little conversation and one I'll never forget.

2008-04-25 19:29:00
9.   Bob Timmermann
Kennedy and Lyons did play-by-play for one of the Dodgers-Padres games from China.
2008-04-25 19:29:27
10.   KG16
I'm hoping the Lakers don't decide to follow the trend of all these teams that have gone up 2-0 so far in the playoffs.

But I do hope the Spurs follow that pattern

2008-04-25 19:29:33
11.   Eric Stephen
I'd kind of like to see Kennedy and Lyons doing play by play on a game

Assuming you mean east of the Rocky Mountains of course.

2008-04-25 19:30:06
12.   KG16
9 - oh yeah, I forgot, definitely the lack of alcohol
2008-04-25 19:30:20
13.   Bob Timmermann
That was worth repeating.
2008-04-25 19:31:48
14.   Eric Stephen
Thanks for sharing that. That sounds like the most fun possible in Hunstville, Alabama.
2008-04-25 19:33:33
15.   Indiana Jon
14 Actually Huntsville is quite a nice town. Very pretty area, nice weather, great golf and a Minotaur!
2008-04-25 19:35:12
16.   Eric Stephen
The Dodger game is alternatively showing on "Game 3" for me (in addition to the scheduled "Game 7", currently preempted by the Rays-BoSox game)
2008-04-25 19:36:01
17.   Indiana Jon
I did forget to mention that I was predicting to him that he would be in LA before June. He wouldn't agree or disagree with me, but the scout (or whoever the guy behind him with the radar gun was) in the row behind him just kept laughing. I took it as a good laugh.
2008-04-25 19:36:11
18.   Sam in SC
8 do I have to read all of that? :(
2008-04-25 19:37:21
19.   Ken Noe
15 Great NASA museum too.
2008-04-25 19:37:33
20.   KG16
17 - maybe he was laughing because he was a scout for the Angels looking to set up a LaRoche-Figgins deal.
2008-04-25 19:37:55
21.   Bob Timmermann
Cliff notes version of 8
Indiana Jon goes to Huntsville. Takes to McDonald, finds him shy. Talks to LaRoche, who is gregarious. Finds Kershaw in the stands charting pitches, strikes up conversation.
2008-04-25 19:39:04
22.   Woden325
Ok, I'm fresh from listening to the KC/TOR game. Let's go Rockies!
2008-04-25 19:39:33
23.   Icaros


2008-04-25 19:40:49
24.   Bob Timmermann
Battle of old friends in Milwaukee: Gagne pitching to Gonzalez.
2008-04-25 19:42:36
25.   scareduck
22 - and I'm just back from the Cubs game. Old (Angels farmhand) friend Wil Nieves hits his first major league homer, a ninth inning walkoff shot. 5-3 Nationals.
2008-04-25 19:42:54
26.   KG16
It's a shame that Ned isn't the GM for Colorado, we might be able to put together a package for Tulo right now.
2008-04-25 19:43:51
27.   KG16
question: does a sac fly count as a walk off hit?
2008-04-25 19:44:00
28.   scareduck
26 - no, we'd have to be in Tampa for that theory to work.
2008-04-25 19:44:38
29.   scareduck
27 - it's not a hit, but it is a walkoff play. People speak of walkoff singles.
2008-04-25 19:45:07
30.   Woden325
KC seems to be busting this one open 8-4 in the 8th.
Rockies radio had an oddball factoid: for the first run through the lineup, the opposition is hitting .171 against Kuroda.
2008-04-25 19:45:19
31.   D4P
Has there ever been a walk-off reached first on third strike wild pitch...?
2008-04-25 19:45:44
32.   Bob Timmermann
Gonzo walks against Gagne.
2008-04-25 19:45:59
33.   KG16
just flipped over to the Spurs and Suns... Shaq still doesn't go out to his man on the pick and roll, not that it was really a pick and roll with Parker and Duncan, more of a "you stand there and I'll go this way and then pass you the ball"
2008-04-25 19:46:05
34.   scareduck
30 - Vinnie said essentially the same thing.
2008-04-25 19:47:29
35.   Woden325
34 everybody gets the same media guide, apparently.
2008-04-25 19:48:08
36.   Bob Timmermann
The White Sox were rained out. I wonder if dzzrtRatt ever got off the ground.
2008-04-25 19:48:45
37.   Woden325
Andruw Jones is not popular with the home crowd?
2008-04-25 19:49:03
38.   KG16
what's the rule on a foot in the batters box between pitches? It's one of the few remaining differences between the leagues, no?
2008-04-25 19:49:40
39.   D4P
Why not bench Andruw until June, when he'll have it all figured out...?
2008-04-25 19:50:28
40.   Bob Timmermann
The only difference between the leagues is the DH now. Since there is just one set of umpires, pretty much everything else is standardized.
2008-04-25 19:51:51
41.   KG16
40 - I thought I read something in the rules recently (not sure why I was looking at them) that mentioned something about a specific rule for the NL as opposed to the AL.

Not that I would expect enforcement of that kind of rule.

2008-04-25 19:52:29
42.   D4P
Randy Johnson is off to an interesting start in San Diego.

Oh: and that Reynolds guy has hit his 7th HR for Arizona.

2008-04-25 19:54:51
43.   scareduck
31 - see 1941 World Series Game 4, though I'm not sure that's quite what you're asking for.

I wrote more about it under the Hugh Casey entry here:

2008-04-25 19:55:18
44.   KG16
41 - yeah, Rule 6.02(d):

The following rule shall be in effect for all National Association Leagues:
(1) The batter shall keep at least one foot in the batter's box throughout the batter's time at bat, unless one of the following exceptions applies, in which case the batter may leave the batter's box but not the dirt area surrounding home plate

2008-04-25 19:55:35
45.   Woden325
42 Lord, can anybody beat the D-backs this year. Please. Even the Giants?
2008-04-25 19:56:48
46.   Eric Stephen
I was mentally queued up to gripe about Pierre's arm, but I think that ball was hit slow enough that Holliday would have scored anyway.
2008-04-25 19:58:27
47.   D4P
Close, but not quite.
2008-04-25 19:58:42
48.   Woden325
Also 42 : Randy Johnson just got a solid single. Not a good night for Randy Wolf.
2008-04-25 19:58:46
49.   Bob Timmermann
I would have to believe that some game has ended on a combo K-WP.

There have been games that have ended on catcher's interference as well as one where the game ended because the catcher picked up the ball with his mask.

2008-04-25 19:59:43
50.   D4P
Has a game ended on a "Duaner Sanchez"...?
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2008-04-25 20:01:16
51.   Bob Timmermann
The closest would be the game the Dodgers won where the catcher stopped a pitch with his mask.
2008-04-25 20:03:49
52.   KG16
why run the Hack-a-Shaq when you're up 12 in the first quarter?

One of the announcers: you can't change the rules for lack of skills.

Also, Shaq had two lane violations on his subsequent free throws.

As much as I appreciated him while he was with the Lakers, I'm glad he's gone.

2008-04-25 20:06:37
53.   Woden325
No more no-hitter for the Big Unit.
2008-04-25 20:08:16
54.   scareduck
Yay Loney!
2008-04-25 20:09:23
55.   KG16
I love the story of how Podsednek learned to pronounce his own name
2008-04-25 20:09:44
56.   Gen3Blue
What a sweet left handed swing. It will grow this year.
2008-04-25 20:11:02
57.   KG16
hey, when did Martin go back to the batting gloves?
2008-04-25 20:11:46
58.   Woden325
Joe Torre bobblehead night? Aw, that'd be worth the price of the flight if I'd have known.
2008-04-25 20:13:41
59.   scareduck
Damndest double play I've ever seen. 3-2-5-3? Wowzers.
2008-04-25 20:14:09
60.   Bob Timmermann
The Podsednik-Pierre exacta tonight makes it Popgun Outfielder Night.
2008-04-25 20:14:59
61.   Gen3Blue
Ethier nailed that. Just bad luck. Make hime throw a few more pitches. Come-on Juan.
2008-04-25 20:16:13
62.   scareduck
Apocalypse alert: Pierre walks.
2008-04-25 20:22:56
63.   Bob Timmermann
Hmm, West, Texas is not in West Texas. It's near Waco.
2008-04-25 20:24:09
64.   Gen3Blue
Nomar lets Tulip on?
2008-04-25 20:27:22
65.   KG16
63 - yes, but it is in the jurisdiction of the US District Court for the Western District of Texas.
2008-04-25 20:27:26
66.   Woden325
64 That's Tulo to you, buddy.
2008-04-25 20:27:53
67.   KG16
Tulo missed third.
2008-04-25 20:28:49
68.   Woden325
Wow, the Rockies manufactured 3 runs. I may faint.
2008-04-25 20:30:00
69.   D4P
This start by Kuroda has not been one of quality.
2008-04-25 20:30:13
70.   neuroboy002
Boy, Just looked at the Philadelphia/Pittsburgh box score- too bad Jayson Werth couldn't stay healthy for us. 5 bombs in this season already.
2008-04-25 20:30:34
71.   Gen3Blue
Kuroda can't handle Holiday or Atkins. the Rockies are good this year . We are not. They had to play their young players. We did not.
2008-04-25 20:33:34
72.   D4P
2008-04-25 20:34:03
73.   Woden325
71 , your lot ain't so bad, but we're all going to be at the mercy of Arizona this year.
2008-04-25 20:35:49
74.   Gen3Blue
Hey Vin guess what. Get someone on base, and the D's will get out as fast as they can.
2008-04-25 20:36:56
75.   dzzrtRatt
now at o'hare. will get home tonight.

so what's the score?

2008-04-25 20:37:25
76.   Bob Timmermann
4-2 Rox.
2008-04-25 20:37:37
77.   KG16
This is my kind of game... six runs in the first 3 innings combined and all kinds of line drives.
2008-04-25 20:37:52
78.   Bob Timmermann
The Padres have Wil Ledezma pitching. I think he's the San Diego equivalent of a white flag.
2008-04-25 20:39:28
79.   KG16
Just put it in play Jeff
2008-04-25 20:41:14
80.   scareduck
A wild one in Chavez Ravine!

Man, if you told me this year that Ubaldo would look like this after last September and October, I would have said you were crazy.

2008-04-25 20:41:15
81.   KG16
now that's what I call a manufactured run, I think Torealba was trying to change the pitch there
2008-04-25 20:42:20
82.   Frip
What's a Dutch uncle and what does he do that American uncles don't?
2008-04-25 20:42:53
83.   Woden325
Ubaldo keeps us on our toes in Colorado. It's nice to see that Tulo's got his mid-season form back, though.
2008-04-25 20:43:08
84.   3upn3down
Of the 22 guys ranked higher than Jeff Kent on the all time doubles list, no one has a better percent of 2B to total hits than Kent. Here are the top 5:

Kent 23.0% (543 doubles)
Luis Gonzalez 22.8% (572)
Tris Speaker 22.5% (792)
Craig Biggio 21.8% (668)
George Brett 21.1% (665)

2008-04-25 20:43:09
85.   Bob Timmermann
Dutch uncles give you pot.
2008-04-25 20:44:19
86.   scareduck
82 - I think it involves using "ij" as a single letter.
2008-04-25 20:45:32
87.   KG16
If Loney tries to steal second here, we're going to have to have an intervention
2008-04-25 20:45:47
88.   scareduck
2008-04-25 20:46:30
89.   Frip
Wiki: "Dutch uncle is a term for a person who issues frank, harsh, and severe comments and criticism to educate, encourage, or admonish someone. Thus, a "Dutch uncle" is a person who is rather the reverse of what is normally thought of as avuncular or uncle-like (which would be indulgent and permissive)."

I can see this. All the Dutch execs we hire are very...err, frank, to people.

(That was funny though Bob, very)

2008-04-25 20:47:04
90.   3upn3down
63 Bob, West, Texas is right off the freeway between Waco and Dallas, and is populated by a very large and proud Czech population. They sell Colache's that are to die for, and on any given weekend, if you pull in to "The Czech Stop" to get collache's, be prepared to wait in a line equivalent to Pink's or Tito's Taco. It is a land mark.
2008-04-25 20:47:06
91.   scareduck
87 - fortunately unnecessary with that single.
2008-04-25 20:49:32
92.   Bob Timmermann
The AL/NL records for wild pitches in an inning are 4 by Walter Johnson, Kevin Gregg, Phil Niekro, and Ryan Madson.

Bert Cummingham of Buffalo of the Players League in 1890 had five. Rick Ankiel had five in one inning in his his Division Series meltdown against the Braves in 2000.

2008-04-25 20:50:03
93.   Woden325
88 I've had to take that role with my nephew. He shows a a distinct inclination to be a {rule-1}-head.
2008-04-25 20:51:03
94.   scareduck
The WPA graphs of this game looks like the Rockies:

2008-04-25 20:51:44
95.   KG16
When it rains, it pours
2008-04-25 20:51:54
96.   Frip
If Hurdle doesn't take this kid out soon I'm going to start rooting for the kid to do better out of sheer sympathy.
2008-04-25 20:52:10
97.   Woden325
Thanks Baldo. Now hit the showers. Phooey.
2008-04-25 20:52:14
98.   LogikReader
2008-04-25 20:53:05
99.   LeeLacy
I've cursed Slappy's name a lot over the last couple of years. But I've got to give him credit when credit is due. Nice job with the bases juiced.
2008-04-25 20:54:43
100.   Gen3Blue
I don't know how they did it, but the Rockies have turned this game into something they can beat us at. I don't know how---but I am not happy.
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2008-04-25 20:56:21
101.   Woden325
4u at first base. That's different.
2008-04-25 20:56:35
102.   scareduck
100 - Huh? Didn't you hear Vinny talk about how the Rockies have blown more leads this year than anybody else or some such?
2008-04-25 20:57:37
103.   Woden325
102 I'm not listening to Vin, but the Rockies' bullpen is anything but bullet-proof. Unfortunately.
2008-04-25 20:59:06
104.   Bob Timmermann
The Rockies pen is bulletproof is they're facing the Padres.
2008-04-25 20:59:32
105.   Bob Timmermann
The second is should be "if"
2008-04-25 20:59:35
106.   scareduck
This would be a good time for a long, long, long fly ball.
2008-04-25 20:59:42
107.   LeeLacy
This would sure be a convenient time for Andruw to break out of his slump.

I can only imagine how loud the boos will be in Dodger Stadium if he fails.

2008-04-25 21:00:22
108.   scareduck
If the Rocks' bullpen is pullet-proof, they stand a good chance of getting Jones out.
2008-04-25 21:01:39
109.   scareduck
Nasty foul off his shin there.
2008-04-25 21:01:43
110.   LeeLacy
According to GameDay, Jones just swung at a pitch that almost hit him.
2008-04-25 21:01:44
111.   Woden325
104 Only another fourteen days 'til they can be bullet-proof again... Sigh.
2008-04-25 21:02:07
112.   scareduck
Yes, they're yelling "Druw!" again.
2008-04-25 21:03:08
113.   JoeyP
I got Jayson Nix on a fantasy team. Is it too early to give up on him?
2008-04-25 21:03:43
114.   LeeLacy
For anyone who's watching the game, what's the reaction of Dodger fans right now? Are they reacting as if Michael Cooper was just shown on the JumboTron?
2008-04-25 21:04:22
115.   scooplew
Why is this guy batting second? Why is this guy batting? Why is this guy? Why is this? Why?
2008-04-25 21:04:45
116.   scareduck
"And now we stagger into the fourth..." Oh, yes.
2008-04-25 21:04:48
117.   Dave G
I was at the game last night and the only boos louder than those for Andruw were those for the umps after they threw out Kent and Torre (which by the way were almost Bondsian in their vigor)
2008-04-25 21:05:30
118.   Woden325
Yorvie! That's more like it!
2008-04-25 21:05:35
119.   scareduck
114 - see 112 .
2008-04-25 21:06:33
120.   scareduck
118 - shouldn't you be over at Purple Row?
2008-04-25 21:08:03
121.   dzzrtRatt
Ned's thinking, hey I missed on Jones, but I'm looking good on Pierre!

me, I'm sad for Andruw. sheez.

2008-04-25 21:08:53
122.   Bob Timmermann
Personally, I enjoy the other team's perspective.

To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson's 1801 Inaugural Address "We are all Dodgers fans, we are all Rockies fans."

2008-04-25 21:09:14
123.   Woden325
120 I'd be at Bad Altitude, but I'd be talking to myself. I like it here, even if all you guys are rooting for the wrong team.
2008-04-25 21:12:08
124.   Bob Timmermann
But there are a few questions you have to answer before you are truly accepted:
1) What is your opinion of Danica McKellar?
2) Can you drop in catch phrases from TV shows?
2008-04-25 21:12:18
125.   Woden325
That's the stuff, Scott.
2008-04-25 21:12:39
126.   JoeyP
Never think Podsednik has that type of at-bat in him.
2008-04-25 21:12:58
127.   Dave G
I think we're paying him $18m to make that catch. Funny part is that 3 or 4 years ago he makes it easily.
Wow, what a play by Furcal though.
2008-04-25 21:13:14
128.   Andrew Shimmin
Furry is magic.
2008-04-25 21:13:20
129.   Woden325
1) I like the cut of her jib.
2) What'chu talking about Willis?
2008-04-25 21:13:46
130.   Bob Timmermann
Kuroda would have never gotten a throw like that from a shortstop in Japan. That play by Furcal only shows up on this side of the pond.
2008-04-25 21:14:04
131.   fordprefect
real or imaginary?

I'm thinking fred willard here: "wh' hoppen?"

2008-04-25 21:14:27
132.   Bob Timmermann
He's met the minimum requirements!
2008-04-25 21:14:30
133.   Gen3Blue
Damn, I don't know how, but the Rockies somehow have made this the style of game they can win. If we don't keep up some real offense and runs, we are gone.
2008-04-25 21:14:57
134.   Frip
Para de Garci!
2008-04-25 21:15:07
135.   Ricardo
I hope Jeter is watching it, this is how you do it.
2008-04-25 21:16:26
136.   Woden325
132 You like me, you really like me!
2008-04-25 21:16:28
137.   Bob Timmermann
Style of game?

This isn't the NBA and the Dodgers aren't able to defend the pick and roll of the Rockies.

Either the Dodgers will score more runs off of the Rockies pen or the Rockies will score more off of the Dodgers relievers.

2008-04-25 21:17:03
138.   Frip
I know ya'll aren't Nomar fans, but you could say SOMETHING after that play.
2008-04-25 21:17:49
139.   Gen3Blue
Did Nomar ground out on one pitch! That's part of the theme!
2008-04-25 21:18:11
140.   Woden325
Nomar who?
2008-04-25 21:18:44
141.   Dave G
And because I post so infrequently...
1. Her intelligence level is really sexy
2. Don't be a babbling fool! Quit your jibba jabba!
2008-04-25 21:19:12
142.   Woden325
Thank you Matt. Nice throw.
2008-04-25 21:21:39
143.   Bob Timmermann
Just as long as everybody knows who is in charge of boring historical anecdotes, we'll all get along well.
2008-04-25 21:21:56
144.   PDH5204
130 Yeah, but Hiroki would have had a CF who actually ran hard to the ball. To the extent that some think that JBall players don't dive for balls, well, Andruw looks like he'd fit in just fine in such a league.

Leaving you and me with, I'm almost ready to advocate Pierre back to CF, and whoever thinks that we don't need to resign Raffy is [insert good natured, non-malicious, ad hominem remark going to poor mental state].

2008-04-25 21:22:11
145.   LogikReader
SA vs Phx, NBA 1st Round, Game 3:

The Suns don't look good at all. Does anyone get swept more in playoff series than Shaquille O'Neal led basketball teams?

2007: Swept by Bulls (with Miami)
2004: "virtually" swept by Detroit in the Finals (with Lakers)
1999: Swept by Spurs (with Lakers)
1998: Swept by Jazz (with Lakers)
1996: Swept by Bulls (with Magic)
1995: Swept by Rockets (with Magic)
1994: Swept by Pacers (with Magic)

2008-04-25 21:22:47
146.   Ricardo
Who´s the team leader in OBP? Furcal or Martin?
2008-04-25 21:23:49
147.   Bob Timmermann
I think the bigger problem with NPB infielders is that they don't throw very well.
2008-04-25 21:25:21
148.   LeeLacy
Pierre's an OBP machine!
2008-04-25 21:25:30
149.   scareduck
135 - but why would Jeter need to learn anything? He's the Greatest Shortstop In Baseball History™.
2008-04-25 21:26:20
150.   berkowit28
124 And you have to be prepared for a lot of Dutch nephews here.
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2008-04-25 21:26:57
151.   Gen3Blue
I don't know how we got sucked into this kind of game. But we are quite sure to lose it and I am resentful of waiting 4 hours to see it. If I'm lucky I will fall asleep before the worst of it.
2008-04-25 21:27:06
152.   Indiana Jon
I believe Andruw is still a valuable CF and will start to hit soon.

Please let me know when I am the last to believe this.

2008-04-25 21:27:30
153.   Frip
I wonder if Kareem wants to sit and listen to my Dodger memories.
2008-04-25 21:28:02
154.   scooplew
145 Interesting. Nice bit of statistics, there.
2008-04-25 21:28:22
155.   scareduck
152 - I believe in Mary Worth.
2008-04-25 21:28:38
156.   JoeyP
Why did they take Druw out?
2008-04-25 21:28:42
157.   Woden325
151 That's the spirit!
2008-04-25 21:29:05
158.   Gen3Blue
Ohhh--dear. The D's may have lost Andruw Jones for a while. How terrible.
2008-04-25 21:29:21
159.   Bob Timmermann
Fouled a ball off of his foot.
2008-04-25 21:29:24
160.   Eric Stephen
At least Kareem had the decency to grow the C. Everett Koop beard.
2008-04-25 21:29:41
161.   LeeLacy
156 Hurt feelings?
2008-04-25 21:29:52
162.   scareduck
156 - I don't believe Vinny told us, though I came in late.
2008-04-25 21:30:30
163.   scooplew
I wish that Torre would have pinch-hit for Kuroda there and taken a better shot at increasing our lead. Kuroda is unlikely to last much longer.
2008-04-25 21:30:35
164.   Woden325
Definitely a wild game. zowie.
2008-04-25 21:30:44
165.   scareduck
"The mound, obviously infected, ..."

Oh, Vinny...

2008-04-25 21:32:20
166.   Woden325
Helton caught in a rundown? That's unpossible!
2008-04-25 21:32:37
167.   scareduck
My, but that baserunning gaffe was embarrassing for Todd Helton.
2008-04-25 21:32:59
168.   Bob Timmermann
I've never seen someone picked off second when the defense had no intention of even throwing over.
2008-04-25 21:32:59
169.   JoeyP
Nice baserunning Helton.
2008-04-25 21:33:06
170.   LeeLacy
Pickoff! Nice job, Kuroda! Maybe some normalcy will be returned to this game after all.
2008-04-25 21:33:47
171.   scareduck
Now that out REALLY hurts.
2008-04-25 21:34:14
172.   Frip
Maybe if he'd shave his muff he wouldn't be so conspicuous trying to steal.
2008-04-25 21:35:08
173.   Woden325
Agh. Helton is one of the best players in the history of the universe, how did he screw that up? And Atkins getting a hit is pouring salt in the wound. I need more beer.
2008-04-25 21:38:49
174.   scareduck
173 - I was unaware the Rockies' uniforms were crotchless.
2008-04-25 21:39:06
175.   Woden325
And Arizona wins again 5-1. Will no one rid us of these meddlesome snakes?
2008-04-25 21:39:32
176.   scareduck
174 - er, 172 .
2008-04-25 21:40:12
177.   Ricardo
175. Move them to Al West! :P
2008-04-25 21:40:59
178.   Bob Timmermann
Preemptive strike:
The umpires are squeezing Kemp!
2008-04-25 21:41:04
179.   scareduck
The Salt Lake Bees are now 19-1. That's just silly.
2008-04-25 21:43:45
180.   tjdub
I have always hated Todd Helton for really no good reason. Just one of those players on my list. Paul O'Neill was on top of that list for a long time. Jeter is in charge now. I can't stand Pudge Rodriguez. I can't really justify any of this.
2008-04-25 21:43:48
181.   Ricardo
Kemp´s problem was his socks,the Juan Pierre style didn´t work out well for him.
2008-04-25 21:43:52
182.   Woden325
179 My home town team, the Sky Sox are ten games back. Tacoma's in second place: 7.5 games back. Dang.
2008-04-25 21:44:02
183.   nofatmike
179 Hopefully they will not top the Jacksonville 5.
2008-04-25 21:44:16
184.   scareduck
Helton gets revenge.
2008-04-25 21:45:06
185.   scareduck
"This has not been a well-played game." No, Vinny.

It says something that we're only in the fifth two hours into this game.

2008-04-25 21:45:54
186.   Frip
KEMP, KEmp, kemp, ke,
2008-04-25 21:46:23
187.   JoeyP
I take it Kemp wont be appearing in any baserunning videos in the near future...
2008-04-25 21:47:29
188.   Ricardo
187. LOL and Bowa must not be very happy.
2008-04-25 21:47:43
189.   Bob Timmermann
I guess the Dodgers aren't concerned about their fans watching "Battlestar Galactica."
2008-04-25 21:50:13
190.   Gen3Blue
As Vin says, neither manager can be too happy with the tenor of this game. But I would argue that by making this 3 stooges style, the Rockies may have a chance to win when they might not on talent vs. talent. I can't believe how Kemp would make a great argument for playing Pierre.
2008-04-25 21:50:24
191.   Frip
I hate when I spend 3 hours cleaning my house and I stop and look around and you can't tell I've done a thing.
2008-04-25 21:50:44
192.   Xeifrank
Dodgers Win Expectancy: 78%
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 21:52:38
193.   Ricardo
Poor Suns... At least Leandrinho is playing well.
2008-04-25 21:53:21
194.   scareduck
Ron Cey never hit a game-tying grand slam at Dodger Stadium in the bottom of the seventh:

2008-04-25 21:57:09
195.   Bob Timmermann
I still want to know what the guy who watched the construction of Dodger Stadium in 1958 was looking at. The groundbreaking was in late 1959 and no substantial work was done until 1960.
2008-04-25 21:58:51
196.   Woden325
195 He watched them issue the building permits?
2008-04-25 22:00:34
197.   dzzrtRatt
191 Bet Ned feels the me way.
2008-04-25 22:00:51
198.   JoeyP
Martin's OPS is back over .800
2008-04-25 22:00:52
199.   LeeLacy
Nice two-bagger by Martin.

The Golden God is regaining his form.

2008-04-25 22:00:58
200.   Bob Timmermann
Ethier is turning into a 2008 version of Mike Kinkade.
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2008-04-25 22:01:38
201.   Gen3Blue
So in a clown game, when they may bring in Corey Wade, the first two batters go on three pitches. Thank god Martin hits a double! And Kent is hit!
2008-04-25 22:01:42
202.   Eric Stephen
Furcal scored his 20th run tonight, so he joins the elusive "20 runs by an LA Dodger in (March/)April" club:

Davey Lopes, Apr 1975: 24 runs in 23 games
Jeff Kent, 2005: 23 in 23 games
Juan Pierre, 2007: 21 in 26 games
Davey Lopes, 1974: 20 in 22 games
Furcal, 2008: 20 in 23 games
Shawn Green, 2000: 20 in 24 games

2008-04-25 22:01:51
203.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers didn't have any building permits in 1958.
2008-04-25 22:01:56
204.   scareduck
Balk like a man, I always say.
2008-04-25 22:02:28
205.   PDH5204
194 Don't they have to do all the measuring and plant the flags and the stakes before they break ground? That was probably what he saw, and it was probably fascinating as the flags I've seen are a vibrant orange [more orange than orange is their motto].
2008-04-25 22:02:56
206.   Woden325
Balk. There were two in the KC/TOR game. That's a lot of balks in 4 hours or so.
2008-04-25 22:02:58
207.   scareduck
Hello, Newman.
2008-04-25 22:03:00
208.   Gen3Blue
Balk!!--its a clown game, but it may not help our Dodgers.
2008-04-25 22:03:37
209.   jtrichey
A new profession for Pierre! Professional balk spotter. That's twice this year that Pierre has made the call for the ump.
2008-04-25 22:03:58
210.   Indiana Jon
204 Why not balk like an Egyptian?
2008-04-25 22:05:18
211.   PDH5204
And just when the mind was more accepting in Mr. Pierre's regard, well, there's that swing again...
2008-04-25 22:05:40
212.   Indiana Jon
I already have a Joe Torre Yankees bobblehead from a game in New York several years ago. Now I need to obtain the Dodger version to make my collection complete.
2008-04-25 22:06:30
213.   Woden325
204 ,210 Generation gap?
2008-04-25 22:06:33
214.   Eric Stephen
Cey did hit his 7th inning game-tying grand slam in Game 1 of the 1977 NLCS, off Steve Carlton.

2008-04-25 22:06:49
215.   scareduck
194 - in the regular season. In the 1977 NLCS Game 1, he hit one that matches his description:

The Dodgers lost anyway, 7-5.

2008-04-25 22:07:24
216.   scareduck
214 - beat me to it by 16 seconds.
2008-04-25 22:08:35
217.   Bako Joe
204 Balkin in L.A....Balkin in L.A. (ay)...nobody balks in L.A.
2008-04-25 22:08:48
218.   Indiana Jon
213 Perhaps then we could compromise with "balk this way".
2008-04-25 22:08:55
219.   scareduck
210 - Fatwas against the balk in Egypt.
2008-04-25 22:09:16
220.   Gen3Blue
JP is a hazard unless he leads off an inning, according to Bill James. I would hate to think this would be crucial to this game. But it's a clown game and its hard to tell. If JP had driven in a few runs, we might have tied or won.
2008-04-25 22:10:17
221.   JoeyP
This is a big spot for Cory Wade.
Close game, and facing a good lineup.
2008-04-25 22:10:35
222.   immouch
I'm confused by the whole campaign. Constuction of the stadium was a fairly primitive act, politically speaking. And, yeah, it's been generations, but it still feels a little tone deaf to turn the actual construction site/event into a "happy memory" TV spot. But, hey, our current Dodger ownership is nothing if not tone deaf.
Meanwhile, Cory Wade looks fairly hittable.
2008-04-25 22:10:48
223.   Bob Timmermann
There were still people living in the Chavez Ravine area until the fall of 1959. Some were essentially squatters and some just hadn't been bought out yet.
2008-04-25 22:12:58
224.   Gen3Blue
It's a clown game because Co. got us into it. Poor Wade is not good at the ML level yet. Make this a loss.
2008-04-25 22:14:01
225.   bigcpa
On a 3-2 count, Tulowitzski promptly singled up the middle and on a 2-1 count Helton promptly singled to right. What is so prompt about all of this? Is it because the bat moves very fast when it is swung?
2008-04-25 22:14:20
226.   JoeyP
Cant believe he got that call against Holiday.
2008-04-25 22:14:35
227.   Woden325
Now, now, Matt. Don't argue balls and strikes with the blind umpire.
2008-04-25 22:15:19
228.   Eric Stephen
Poor Wade is not good at the ML level yet. Make this a loss

"It was a "Jump to Conclusions" mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor... and would have different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO."

2008-04-25 22:15:32
229.   scareduck
Wild thing.
2008-04-25 22:15:36
230.   Gen3Blue
Good Night.
2008-04-25 22:15:41
231.   PDH5204
223 Okay. Does this mean that the Dodgers' Minister of Propaganda [and Disinformation] is trying to pull a fast one on us?
2008-04-25 22:16:27
232.   Woden325
143 Now you're on deck, Bob. What's the record for wild pitches in a game?
2008-04-25 22:17:56
233.   scareduck
231 - Dodgers MiniTruth always seeks to suppress counterrevolutionary lies and rumors.
2008-04-25 22:18:01
234.   trainwreck
Bob, I think you need to make another post challenging UCLA baseball.
2008-04-25 22:21:11
235.   scareduck
232 - in the Retrosheet era, six.
2008-04-25 22:22:20
236.   Bob Timmermann
1958 artists rendering of Dodger Stadium:

Dodger Stadium, May 4, 1960:

This won't end well:

2008-04-25 22:23:11
237.   scareduck
235 -

2008-04-25 22:24:16
238.   Eric Stephen
Former Dodger minor leaguer, and current Rule 5 Astros' reliver Wesley Wright pitched a scoreless 8th inning tonight in St. Louis, and got the win when the Astros rallied for 3 runs in the 9th to win 3-2.

Wright is 3-0 with a 3.68 ERA in the early going. Opposing batters are hitting .154/.290/.385 thus far.

2008-04-25 22:24:25
239.   bluefoundglory
quick miguel pinango any good?
2008-04-25 22:24:46
240.   Bob Timmermann
I'd prefer just to be right.
2008-04-25 22:25:37
241.   Eric Stephen
Bob, is that picture of boxer Davey Moore?
2008-04-25 22:26:01
242.   Bob Timmermann
2008-04-25 22:28:12
243.   Andrew Shimmin
Did we ever get to the bottom of why Gen3Blue is so sure that, if the Dodgers score more than a couple runs in the first half of the game, they'll lose? Even when they're up by five or six?

I don't object to it; I kind of like it, actually. But I don't remember if there was an explanation for it.

2008-04-25 22:29:18
244.   Eric Stephen
Up until a few months ago, when there were rumors that Oscar De La Hoya wanted to fight at Dodger Stadium, I thought Moore was a fictional character created by Bob Dylan.

It's a morbid curiosity that the only boxing match in Dodger Stadium history (outside of the commercial guy and his dad hosting events in the 1958-1961 period, of course) ended in a death.

2008-04-25 22:29:52
245.   LeeLacy
Bison! Now just pay attention on the basepaths.
2008-04-25 22:31:06
246.   Eric Stephen
I'd have to do some research, but I'm guessing the success rate of Gen3Blue's Axiom is somewhat less than Lawler's Law.
2008-04-25 22:31:46
247.   Bob Timmermann
Davey Moore's death was a huge deal at the time. Then governor Pat Brown made a push to have boxing outlawed in California. Jim Murray wrote a scathing column about the brutality of boxing.

After a month or so, people forgot about the whole thing.

2008-04-25 22:32:03
248.   Woden325
Who's in charge of the player pictures in Gameday? Ryan Spier looks like the bastard stepchild of Clint Hurdle and the troll/doll from Doctor Who's Terror of the Autons.
2008-04-25 22:32:51
249.   JoeyP
Nomar's GIDP quite often since he's been back.
2008-04-25 22:34:05
250.   Gen3Blue
I really meant to retire, but I kept listening and have to stepout for a minute.
But I notice people like Kemp are still getting hits and people like Nomar are still causimg DP's.
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2008-04-25 22:36:14
251.   Andrew Shimmin
250- Why do you hate the high scoring games?

This one has been sloppy, I'll grant that, but it seems like you hate them sloppy or not.

2008-04-25 22:36:41
252.   Eric Stephen
I wonder if Murray got anywhere near the backlash as when he wrote about the Indy 500, "Gentlemen, start your coffins."
2008-04-25 22:37:01
253.   JoeyP
Let Broxton pitch the 9th.
Only 7 pitches.
2008-04-25 22:38:58
254.   Eric Stephen
Gen3Blue might be Vin Scully. Vin -- who has been broadcasting for 3 generations; 3 Gen-erations in Blue, if you will -- expressed an interest in the first inning tonight over the middle few because it was scoreless for both sides.
2008-04-25 22:40:45
255.   Bob Hendley
Just checking in and saw Brox do his job and I assume that Saito will come in to close it down in the ninth. Did I miss anything?
2008-04-25 22:42:56
256.   Woden325
254 He'd have loved that ridiculous Rockies/Padres game last week.
2008-04-25 22:45:21
257.   Gagne55
255 Well, for some reason posts in the 220s and 240s sound like the belief was that the Dodgers would lose this one, which is strange because they've lead since the the 4th.
2008-04-25 22:45:30
258.   Bob Timmermann
I can email you the Murray column if you'd like.
2008-04-25 22:45:54
259.   LeeLacy
Martin's got his batting average up to .276, and he's now OPS'ing .816.
2008-04-25 22:46:28
260.   JoeyP
Was it Vin's ego that prevented a 2-man Dodger booth?

i cant imagine one guy calling all 22 innings of a game.

2008-04-25 22:46:55
261.   Eric Stephen
Not surprising that Saito is pitching the 9th. Look at is this way though: Broxton is fresh for tomorrow and possibly Sunday, and Saito has only pitched once in the last 8 days.
2008-04-25 22:48:33
262.   Bob Timmermann
Ross Porter called a 22-inning game by himself.

Vin says he likes to work alone on Dodger games because his style is conversational and he's a conversation with the people watching or listening. He worked in 2-man and 3-man booths when he worked for CBS and NBC and didn't seem to be affected much.

Vin used to be paired with John Madden.

2008-04-25 22:48:43
263.   Xeifrank
Win expectancy: 83%
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 22:48:48
264.   Eric Stephen
Bob, thanks. I just emailed you.
2008-04-25 22:49:48
265.   Eric Stephen
Vin called "The Catch" too. Not sure who his broadcast partner was though.
2008-04-25 22:49:57
266.   JoeyP
Hurdle loves to bunt.
2008-04-25 22:50:39
267.   Eric Stephen
Scully's partner for that game was the late Hank Stram.
2008-04-25 22:50:55
268.   Gagne55
263 That sounds low. Then again, Saito hasn't been very good this year. :-/
2008-04-25 22:51:04
269.   Woden325
Podsednik! Yes!
2008-04-25 22:51:24
270.   scareduck
A walk and a knock and the Rock are almost all the way around the block.
2008-04-25 22:51:25
271.   Xeifrank
that's not good.
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 22:52:00
272.   JoeyP
Not running on Pierre's arm may have ramifications.
2008-04-25 22:52:28
273.   Woden325
Nomar's hurt.
2008-04-25 22:52:36
274.   Xeifrank
wow, Win Expectancy down to 39% after the double. vr, Xei
2008-04-25 22:52:38
275.   Jacob Burch
martin to third?
2008-04-25 22:52:45
276.   Indiana Jon
2008-04-25 22:52:45
277.   bigcpa
This is bizarre.
2008-04-25 22:52:46
278.   Gagne55
266 I wish. :(
2008-04-25 22:52:49
279.   Jon Weisman
I was about to say - Russell Martin, back to his original position.
2008-04-25 22:53:10
280.   Andrew Shimmin
Well now. Isn't this special?
2008-04-25 22:53:11
281.   silverwidow
Holy crap.
2008-04-25 22:53:15
282.   scareduck
The man of Kleenex is re-injured.

The 3B situation is about to get very interesting, since I don't think Dewitt can be called back up until ten days after he was sent down.

2008-04-25 22:53:22
283.   tjdub
clearly a problem in need of a missing Solution
2008-04-25 22:53:32
284.   Xeifrank
Martin to play 3b. hmmm.
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 22:53:34
285.   JoeyP
When the Masters was on CBS, they televised a couple of Vin clips. I think Scully does have a great voice for Golf. Too bad he doesnt do them anymore.
2008-04-25 22:53:41
286.   bigcpa
We need 12 pitchers because we burn our best reliever after 7 pitches.
2008-04-25 22:53:57
287.   Eric Stephen
I like the creativity of Martin at 3rd. I'm guessing he'll be better than Johnny Bench at 3rd.
2008-04-25 22:54:19
288.   Xeifrank
how exactly did he get hurt. The ball wasn't hit to him. Did Taveras breath on him?
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 22:54:56
289.   kngoworld
They always have to make things interesting.
2008-04-25 22:54:58
290.   JoeyP
Martin hasnt played 3rd since rookie ball correct--in an actual game.
2008-04-25 22:55:03
291.   Eric Stephen
I believe DeWitt can come up to replace someone on the DL inside of 10 days though.
2008-04-25 22:55:07
292.   Indiana Jon
This is good for Laroche.
2008-04-25 22:55:15
293.   LeeLacy
How did Nomar get injured?
2008-04-25 22:55:24
294.   bigcpa
Our win expectancy feels like about 25%.
2008-04-25 22:55:31
295.   Linkmeister
I have no good feeling about this.
2008-04-25 22:55:38
296.   Jon Weisman
Martin had a .930 fielding percentage in 40 games in the GCL in 2002.
2008-04-25 22:55:45
297.   Gagne55
So are all the position players used up then?
2008-04-25 22:55:58
298.   Branch Rickey
Is Martin a better 3rd baseman than Hu? Or is it just that they want to keep Hu avilable to pinch hit?
2008-04-25 22:56:11
299.   Woden325
288 Nomar was described on the Rockies radio as looking like a back injury.
2008-04-25 22:56:12
300.   scareduck
On the first pitch!
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2008-04-25 22:56:13
301.   Eric Stephen
I would mention the fantasy league implications of Martin playing 3rd, but why would anyone use Martin anywhere else but catcher.
2008-04-25 22:56:28
302.   Jon Weisman
Bennett didn't get under that ball.
2008-04-25 22:56:31
303.   bigcpa
2008-04-25 22:56:43
304.   Gagne55
290 Watch as Martin will make a game saving play at third base.
2008-04-25 22:56:46
305.   JoeyP
Walk Tulo and set up the force at home.
2008-04-25 22:56:46
306.   scareduck
299 - Vinny said it was likely a bent hammy.
2008-04-25 22:56:50
307.   Bob Timmermann
Hu is at 2nd base.
2008-04-25 22:56:55
308.   Andrew Shimmin
292- I don't think this is good for any one. Unless it earns Bennett his walking papers.
2008-04-25 22:56:58
309.   Jacob Burch
299 Vin/Video looks like a hammy
2008-04-25 22:57:09
310.   Eric Stephen
Saito would have been better served pitching with a copy of the Mitchell Report behind the plate.
2008-04-25 22:57:29
311.   Woden325
6 WP's. Record tying?
Mark TR Donahue is not going to be happy that Willy got the tying run.
2008-04-25 22:57:31
312.   JoeyP
Most bizarre game of the season.
Gary Bennett..oh my.
2008-04-25 22:57:53
313.   JT Dutch
... Every year, in games like this one, the Dodgers show why they are the Dodgers.
2008-04-25 22:58:23
314.   jtrichey
When are runners going to start running during Bennett's throws back to the pitcher? It will happen.
2008-04-25 22:58:38
315.   Eric Stephen
Why walk anyone to get to Holliday? This is Saito's "I want Parkman" moment.
2008-04-25 22:58:38
316.   JoeyP
Podsednik not running on Kemp may give Saito the chance he needs to get out of it.

Helton's good for a GB at an infielder I think.

2008-04-25 22:58:41
317.   Jacob Burch
These has been a weird few games as of late in general.
2008-04-25 22:58:50
318.   silverwidow
Nomar to DL tomorrow. No choice.
2008-04-25 22:58:53
319.   trainwreck
We really could not have found a better back-up than Gary Bennett?

Mike Lieberthal how we miss thee.

2008-04-25 22:59:52
320.   Eric Stephen
Oh, that's why they walked Helton. :)
2008-04-25 23:00:02
321.   Branch Rickey
313 The Rockies are having the same kind of game. And they went to the World Series last year.
2008-04-25 23:00:08
322.   Xeifrank
Good strategy by the bobble head.
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 23:00:13
323.   JoeyP
315--Agree. At this point, Holiday is a much more dangerous hitter than Helton. Sets up a DP chance, but taking a big gamble by IBB'ing to get to the NL MVP.
2008-04-25 23:00:13
324.   Jacob Burch
I want a Win rate now, xei. What a weird weird game.
2008-04-25 23:00:44
325.   Andrew Shimmin
I realize it's unfair to jump on the guy for one error, especially when he only got into the game thirty seconds earlier. But I don't care. I don't like Bennett.
2008-04-25 23:00:47
326.   LeeLacy
What's with Sammy? Is it the lack of save opportunities thus far? Or is he just on the decline in general?
2008-04-25 23:01:06
327.   Frip
Nomar is officially weird.
2008-04-25 23:01:10
328.   Xeifrank
Can Hu play 3B? Atleast as well as Martin?
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 23:01:19
329.   JoeyP
Podsednik not scoring on that fly ball to Kemp was huge.
2008-04-25 23:01:31
330.   silverwidow
The writing is on the wall for Broxton to close.
2008-04-25 23:01:41
331.   LeeLacy
Of course, I would write 326 right as Saito pitches out of jam. Forget everything I just said.

Sammy, you're the man!

2008-04-25 23:01:47
332.   Xeifrank
WE shoots up to 64% on the double play.
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 23:02:05
333.   Gagne55
And so it was the passed ball that lead to the only run.
2008-04-25 23:02:14
334.   scareduck
315 -

Career OPS vs. Saito:

Helton: 1.286
Hawpe: .286

2008-04-25 23:02:17
335.   Xeifrank
329. If it was Pierre, would he have ran?
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 23:02:26
336.   Eric Stephen
Pierre at his most effective spot -- leading off an inning. Color this one blue!

The Eric win expectancy for the Dodgers tonight: 100%.

2008-04-25 23:02:28
337.   Bob Timmermann
There have been only five wild pitches. The Rockies last run scored on a passed ball.
2008-04-25 23:02:33
338.   Jon Weisman
2008-04-25 23:02:52
339.   NorCal-Dodger
Seems like Sammy can't save a game for Kuroda, believe he had BS the last time, when Kuroda was in line for a W. Now Vinny has a chance to better Ross's 22 inning effort!
2008-04-25 23:02:53
340.   Jacob Burch
A chart of the WE in this game would be interesting, I do say.

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