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Well the Names Have All Changed Since You've Come Around
2008-01-25 15:21
by Jon Weisman

Welcome back, Tom Martin. From Josh Rawitch at Inside the Dodgers:

Today we signed two more non-roster invitees to Spring Training and you will recognize both names. Mike Myers and the former Dodger, Tom Martin will both be coming to Spring Training. For Martin, this is his second time in camp as a non-roster guy and I still remember the first time he showed up at Dodgertown in the Spring of 2003. He was sitting at a table in the clubhouse and none of us had any idea who he was or what he was doing there. I was about to go over and ask him for his media credential when our clubhouse manager told me that he was a friend of Paul Shuey's and he had just tried out for the team and made it. A hard-throwing lefty, he was going to be with us throughout camp.

* * *

Quick advertising note: Dodger Thoughts accepts political advertisements. They are unsolicited, and they do not necessarily reflect my own opinions. As far as the guideline against discussing politics on the site - that still stands. The fact that politcal ads can exist here isn't an invitation to political debate.

I still don't want partisan political discussions in the comments of Dodger Thoughts, although for the time being, I am allowing nonpartisan political comments.

Carry on!

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2008-01-25 15:26:08
1.   trainwreck
I never knew that Martin was Paul Shuey's friend and just tried out for the team. That is pretty crazy.
2008-01-25 15:29:57
2.   jtrichey
Is this the old lefty pitcher Mike Myers? I thought he signed a 2 year deal with the White Sox?
2008-01-25 15:30:38
3.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
I can see the battery now: Martin delivers, and Martin blocks the nearly errant pitch.
2008-01-25 15:32:22
4.   Johnson
I seem to recall Martin was not exactly the best "clubhouse guy" but I could have that wrong. Am I misremembering?

Anyway, better to have the left-handed arms in the pen come out of NRIs than to trade something useful for them. As it stands we don't have much in the way of lefties - Beimel, Kuo (if healthy, and never good out of the pen), Miller (I'd love for him to get it together), and Stults on the 40-man. That's it. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if a Martin/Myers type guy sticks in Vegas for emergency callups.

2008-01-25 15:33:00
5.   Eric Stephen
2003 Dodger Bullpen
Eric Gagne - 82.1 IP, 1.20 ERA, 335 ERA+ (Cy Young Award)
Guillermo Mota - 105 IP, 1.97 ERA, 204 ERA+
Paul Quantrill - 77.1 IP, 1.75 ERA, 231 ERA+
Paul Shuey - 69 IP, 3.00 ERA, 134 ERA+
Tom Martin - 51 IP, 3.53 ERA, 114 ERA+


And to drive home the point of bullpen volatility, all five of the above were toast within two years!

2008-01-25 15:36:12
6.   underdog
2 Either that or the Austin Powers guy - either way, probably won't contribute much. Martin was always a pleasant surprise, imho. Not sure if he has anything left but worth a flier.
2008-01-25 15:36:30
7.   Jon Weisman
4 - I don't recall that.
2008-01-25 15:36:57
8.   Bob Timmermann
I don't recall anybody complaining about Tom Martin in the clubhouse. He seemed rather nondescript.

I assume Mike Myers was invited because Torre is familiar with him.

It's somewhat the equivalent of showing up as a favor for Mitch and Murray.

2008-01-25 15:39:32
9.   Eric Enders
1 Dodger Blues squeezed about five years' worth of jokes out of that fact.
2008-01-25 15:39:52
10.   regfairfield
5 That's why we didn't realize Jim Tracy couldn't manage a bullpen, no matter what he did that year, he struck gold. I think Martin retired something like 90% of his inherited runners that year.
2008-01-25 15:41:25
11.   Bluebleeder87

he was throwing serious heat back then also, I think mid-90's gas topping out at 96-97MPH.

2008-01-25 15:41:48
12.   Eric Stephen
I grew up in Palm Springs, and my friend was batboy for the Class A Palm Springs Angels in 1992 & 1993, which featured Garret Anderson and Troy Percival, among others.

Anyway, I was going through the Baseball Reference minors database a few weeks ago to see what other future major leaguers passed through the Cal League during those years. I was surprised to find a 23 year old Mike Myers made his pro league debut as a starter for the 1992 San Jose Giants.

2008-01-25 15:43:49
13.   Eric Stephen
I forgot about the inherited runner stat! I looked it up and Martin only allowed 5 of 42 inherited runners to score (11.9%).
2008-01-25 15:44:29
14.   Bob Timmermann
In 2003, first batters were 7 for 70 against Martin with 8 walks.
2008-01-25 15:47:13
15.   Eric Enders
10 "I think Martin retired something like 90% of his inherited runners that year."

He must have had, like, the greatest pickoff move ever. ;)

2008-01-25 15:49:29
16.   regfairfield
Oh my god, you are so right.
2008-01-25 15:51:30
17.   silverwidow
Mets are about to sign Livan Hernandez. BROTHERS UNITE.
2008-01-25 15:52:29
18.   Bob Timmermann
Everybody prepare for a Nelson Muntz laugh.
2008-01-25 15:52:48
19.   Jon Weisman
From Variety:

German TV viewers zapping around the dial at midnight on Jan. 20 got a rare treat on pubcaster ARD -- a live American football game: the NFC championship between the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants in freezing-cold Wisconsin.
They also got a chilling glimpse into just how much TV advertising disrupts the flow of the game.

German regs ban pubcasters from airing ads after 8 p.m. So during the time devoted to countless commercial breaks for American TV, ARD showed viewers endless lingering shots of shivering fans and frozen football players standing around looking bored.

It was a view that American viewers, of course, would never get to see -- unless they went to a game.

2008-01-25 15:57:30
20.   Bob Timmermann
I could never American football on German TV. But I stayed in hotels where my only English language programming was CNN International.

Sometimes Eurosport would be in English. It showed a lot of snooker.

2008-01-25 16:02:32
21.   kngoworld
20 Is there a big difference between snooker and pool?
2008-01-25 16:03:12
22.   Eric Enders
Amusing ESPN gaffe.
2008-01-25 16:05:32
23.   Jim Hitchcock
What, no billiards?
2008-01-25 16:14:26
24.   Marty
When I was in Denmark I was amazed at how popular NFL football was. People were going to bars for the games. They would interject Danish Announcers whenever they cut to the booth. It was wild.
2008-01-25 16:15:16
25.   Marty
Hmmm, upon review, I'm not sure if interject was the word I was looking for.
2008-01-25 16:18:32
26.   Jon Weisman
Does anyone remember this? From Wikipedia:

(Diane) Franklin sang the National Anthem at Dodger Stadium on June 1, 2004, a nod to her Better Off Dead character's love of "ze Brooklyn Dod-zhers" and her desire to visit their stadium, which she fulfills at the end of the film.

2008-01-25 16:21:29
27.   underdog
25 Hey! That smarts! Interjections (Hey!) show excitement (Yow!) or emotion (Ouch!).
2008-01-25 16:24:21
28.   Jim Hitchcock
26 That's cool. It's definitely time to revisit that film.

"I want my two dollarrrrssss!"

2008-01-25 16:36:49
29.   Ken Arneson
24 I think they're interested in Denmark only because the NFL's all-time leading scorer is a Dane. If Morten Andersen had been a Swede, they'd probably have no interest whatsoever.
2008-01-25 16:37:42
30.   underdog
I wish they'd cut to Danish announcers during NFL Network broadcasts.
2008-01-25 16:44:03
31.   Eric Enders
Heck, I wish they'd cut to Danish announcers during Fox baseball broadcasts as well.
2008-01-25 16:46:51
32.   bhsportsguy
I may be late to this party but I see on Josh R.'s blog that tickets for the ST game at the Coliseum go on sale next Saturday (Feb. 2) He said there will be tickets as low $1.00 (for standing room).

They must expect Red Sox Nation to invade LA that weekend. And who knows, they might just do that.

2008-01-25 16:47:35
33.   underdog
trainwreck and other Raiders fans, not so fast re: Kiffin:
2008-01-25 16:48:51
34.   Eric Enders
Didn't Red Sox Nation already invade when Fox sold the team?
2008-01-25 16:50:44
35.   trainwreck
Raiders also denied the report that they were going to fire Art Shell last year.

I am still expecting something to happen.

2008-01-25 16:53:39
36.   underdog
True - adamant denial is often the first sign of a pending firing. Bet it's James Lofton if he is canned.
2008-01-25 16:55:04
37.   underdog
Ah and there's more on SFGate now:

Doesn't sound good, does it?

2008-01-25 17:00:42
38.   Bob Timmermann
Standing room at the Coliseum promises to give someone a view where they can see almost, but not quite, nothing of the game.
2008-01-25 17:08:30
39.   Marty
I bet Steve Sarkisian thinks he made the right decision
2008-01-25 17:09:35
40.   trainwreck
Makes some of the turmoil surrounding the Dodgers the last few years look like nothing.
2008-01-25 17:14:39
41.   StolenMonkey86
In response to the title

People still around from Tom Martin's last stint in LA:

Josh Rawitch
Vin Scully
Manny Mota (although not in the dugout anymore)

2008-01-25 17:24:42
42.   Eric Stephen
Technically, Brady Penny was acquired one day before Martin was traded in 2004, but of course effectively they weren't teammates.
2008-01-25 17:35:02
43.   Gagne55
1 Really? Vin Scully mentioned it pretty much every time he pitched.
2008-01-25 17:35:48
44.   Eric Enders
Brazoban also was called up on the day Martin was traded.
2008-01-25 17:40:27
45.   trainwreck
Sadly, I did not get to watch Dodger games and hear Vin until I went to school in SB.
2008-01-25 17:42:31
46.   underdog
And then there's the Pirates (just to put whatever frustrations we've had with the Dodgers in perspective):

(Though it seems their new GM is much more intelligent about how to go about things...)

2008-01-25 17:43:15
47.   underdog
(more than their previous regime, that is...)

Okay, off to brave the rain. Ciao, people.

2008-01-25 17:57:35
48.   Andrew Shimmin
Why Repko likes opening day.

2008-01-25 18:31:57
49.   Eric Enders
48 'Cause it means that darn Furcal is out of the way?
2008-01-25 18:43:56
50.   Sam DC
Garth Brooks was so amazing big and now he seems to be so amazingly off the radar.

It's quite something.

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2008-01-25 18:53:28
51.   Bluebleeder87
My jaw hurts watching that poor dog.
2008-01-25 18:53:48
52.   Andrew Shimmin
Instead of thinking of Repko as he is, I always think of Repko as Comment 94:

2008-01-25 19:06:00
53.   Sam DC
52 Or Comment 60.
2008-01-25 19:14:26
54.   Bob Timmermann
I think tennis players should still have to throw a red flag on the court when they challenge a call.
2008-01-25 19:33:30
55.   Eric Enders
50 I believe Brooks has a marketing degree from Oklahoma State. Which apparently has helped him in repackaging all his early songs in innumerable different "Hits" discs and box sets and managing to actually get poor suckers to buy them. Which thus enabled him to pass The Beatles in sales. He's proven there's basically no limit to how many times you can get people to buy the same songs over and over.

The man knows how to sell himself, I'll give him that. You can substitute a different verb if you like.

2008-01-25 19:38:08
56.   D4P
Q: Is there a more annoying person on the earth than Maria Sharapova's father?

A: No.

2008-01-25 19:55:57
57.   D4P
A question regarding "non-roster invitees".

Is it really the case that any given NRI is only invited to spring training by one team and one team only? It seems to me that many players would likely be invited by more than one team, yet the media never presents it that way. You never hear, for example, that Player X was invited to spring training by Team A and Team B, and that Player X chose one team over the other. You just hear that one team invited the player.

What gives?

2008-01-25 19:59:43
58.   Bob Timmermann
I guess the soul of Bill Walsh can finally rest, knowing that D4P has pardoned him.
2008-01-25 20:01:02
59.   D4P
A lot of people are tied with Mr. Sharapov.
2008-01-25 20:17:17
60.   natepurcell
Ana Ivanovic is hot.
2008-01-25 20:29:20
61.   68elcamino427
Attention! Worldwide alert! All able bodied left handers report to Dodgertown effective 2/14/08.
2008-01-25 20:31:59
62.   trainwreck
Yeah, I like her more than Sharapova.
2008-01-25 20:39:27
63.   Bob Timmermann
Ms. Ivanovic is likely a slightly cheaper date than Ms. Sharapova.

You better be able to measure up. Sharapova is 6'2" and Ivanovic is 6'1".

2008-01-25 20:42:49
64.   68elcamino427
What about the Williams girls?
2008-01-25 21:24:06
73.   LAT
Q: Is there a more annoying person on the earth than Maria Sharapova's father?

A: Yes. Maria Sharapova.

2008-01-25 21:50:01
74.   silverwidow
73 Leave Maria alone. :)
2008-01-25 22:44:57
75.   Xeifrank
FWIW, I voted already (absentee). I just hope my ballot survives the (SFW) mother
of all storms headed our way sat evening into sunday. I am sure Bob is already on Storm Watch 2008.

vr, Xei

2008-01-25 22:51:03
76.   natepurcell
You better be able to measure up. Sharapova is 6'2" and Ivanovic is 6'1"

They don't look that tall on TV!

There goes my dream (I'm 5'11-6'0ish)

2008-01-25 22:52:55
77.   LAT
50. I dunno Sam he's pretty much sold out 5 shows in two days in LA and I suspect LA isn't really his strong suit.

All at Staples:
1-25-2008 – Friday 6:00 PM
1-25-2008 – Friday 10:00 PM
1-26-2008 – Saturday 1:00 PM
1-26-2008 – Saturday 5:00 PM
1-26-2008 – Saturday 9:00 PM

The guy is a machine. 3 shows on Sat. Is anyone out there crazy enough to go to all three just so they can say they did it?

2008-01-25 23:30:41
78.   jasonungar07
dodged a bullet. Chicago Sun times:

One media outlet reported that Dye did so out of anger with Williams. Dye, however, said that was not the case.

''I was calling to ask him what happened with Torii,'' Dye said.

Dye and several other Sox players had been involved in trying to lure Hunter, a free-agent outfielder from the Minnesota Twins, to the South Side. The last they'd heard, the five-year, $75 million offer from the Sox was good enough to land Hunter.

The Angels' five-year, $90 million offer changed that.

''I'm not sitting here feeling like Kenny deceived [me and Buehrle] into staying,'' Dye said. ''Guys like a Torii Hunter were going to command outrageous money. The Angels came from nowhere. Torii told me that it was down to the Dodgers and Sox, and [he] was leaning toward us. Then ...''

Williams' Thanksgiving nightmare.

2008-01-26 01:06:35
79.   caseybarker
Dear Al Davis,

Please go away.



2008-01-26 06:41:31
84.   old dodger fan
Are we allowed to comment on the Blog Ads or is that a rule 5 violation?

Is that a new ad? I only noticed it today.

I hope you get a bunch more. I would love to see you make money on this thing. I am a self-confessed capitalist.

2008-01-26 07:43:05
86.   D4P
Maria is one of those tied with her father.
2008-01-26 08:32:41
89.   PHilldodger
77 Kansas City opened the new Sprint Center in fall of 2007. Brooks was one of the first acts. He played to 9 sold-out shows over a 10-day period. People came from all over the Midwest and beyond for the shows. The man has a following.
2008-01-26 08:38:37
90.   Bob Timmermann
My job requires me to work every 4th Sunday from 12:15-5:15.

And guess who has a brother who has extra tickets for the Lakers-Cavs game this Sunday at 12:30?

And do you wish to take a stab at whether or not this is the Sunday I have to work?

2008-01-26 08:48:34
91.   D4P
Doesn't the library respect The Sabbath...?
2008-01-26 09:05:08
93.   Jon Weisman
92 - I truly believe you've overreacted. Making a comment about physical appearance is not necessarily political. You turned it into something political.

But I have spent the past 10 minutes deleting all the comments in order to satisfy your opinion of what should be allowed on this site.

2008-01-26 09:13:36
94.   LAT
Darn and I was feeling like Evelyn Wood reading comments 79-93 in seconds flat until I realized half of them were gone.
2008-01-26 09:18:07
95.   berkowit28
93 Hmmm, one of the results of that is that your answer (which I guess was to be expected, since it would otherwise lead to rule 5 violations) to 84 has also disappeared. So I'll sneak in a meta-comment that certain blog ads seem themselves to be rule 5 violations, but whatever.
2008-01-26 09:23:01
96.   Jon Weisman
95 - It's not "whatever," since I clearly explained this all in my post above. The Thank You guidelines apply to the comments. End of story.
2008-01-26 09:23:20
97.   Gen3Blue
90 According to some natural law--this is the week.
2008-01-26 09:31:47
98.   LAT
My $.02:

This site is a ton of work to run and keep current. It is also one of the best and most intelligent sites on the web concerning the Dodgers (and other subjects). This fact is borne out by the respect it has received from other outlets such as the Dodgers themselves, SI and even Peter Gammons. It is better run and more informative than most pay sites, yet Jon keeps it free with equal access to all. I learn far more from this site than the LA Times which I pay $20 a month for. Given the analysis, humor and thoughtful discussion this site provides Jon should be charging a fee. Therefore, if Jon can make a few bucks off of some political ads during election season to offset the time and energy he puts into this forum I am all for it. Jon, charge away and I hope you get more ads than you have space for.

2008-01-26 09:35:06
99.   Jon Weisman
98 - Thank you. I really appreciate that. I want to make it perfectly clear that the rules of this site have not changed. If you would like to respond a political BlogAd, make your own political BlogAd.
2008-01-26 09:39:34
100.   Jon Weisman
Kamenetsky brothers have more interviews from the minicamp up

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2008-01-26 09:43:51
101.   Andrew Shimmin
You can also systematically record every email address carelessly posted here, and then, when the time is right, start blasting them all with whatever political message you like.

Wait. Right? That's still cool, isn't it? The Future of the World may depend on it. . .

2008-01-26 09:47:26
102.   D4P
My Firefox features block the BlogAds completely.
2008-01-26 09:48:03
103.   Andrew Shimmin
102- Parasite.
2008-01-26 09:51:11
104.   screwballin
98 I couldn't agree more. I mostly lurk here, but I read DT daily. If this site went away because Jon decided it wasn't worth it, I would just feel lost.

I hope Jon runs as many ads as he likes to keep that from ever being a consideration.

2008-01-26 09:54:53
105.   D4P
The baseball insight I bring more than makes up for it.
2008-01-26 09:56:42
106.   Jon Weisman
And as long as we're on this: Another thing that has always been true is that there are no floodgates here. If you perceive a rule violation by one person, that does not entitle you to make your own rule violation. You either turn the other cheek, respond in a way that doesn't violate the rules, or you can ask me to deal with it.
2008-01-26 09:57:41
107.   old dodger fan
I did not read the deleted comments but if my comment at 84 in any way contributed to the general disharmony here this morning you have my heartfelt apology.

I echo the feelings expressed at 98 .

2008-01-26 09:59:40
108.   D4P
LaRoche is talking about being a "dirtbag" and "going out there and getting dirty".
2008-01-26 10:03:26
109.   berkowit28
96 Sorry - I missed the update to the post. (I don't generally re-read the posts unless you put a pointer to an update in the comments. In my browser, refreshing scrolls down to the place where I've been reading, or equivalent place in the next subset of 50 posts.)

You'll have to expect a few expressions of surprise in comments to future posts as well from people who won't have read your statement today. You may get tired repeating yourself, unless you put something similar right above the blog ads.

2008-01-26 10:11:52
110.   Bob Timmermann
The only Sunday the library is closed is Easter Sunday and that's mainly because it's hard to get staff to come in.

We're also closed on Sunday if some immovable holiday ends up on Sunday such as Christmas or Independence Day.

2008-01-26 10:13:12
111.   Andrew Shimmin
Sidebar ads as a topic tend to have a pretty short half life. There was the chess team set that, was it ToyCannon who knew the guy pitching it? Then there was the one with the half naked woman; that got a little play. But mostly they're not big comment getters. Most people don't care very much about them.
2008-01-26 10:13:31
112.   The Mootz
90 Your brother can "give" the extra ticket to O.J. Mayo.,0,5754515.story

2008-01-26 10:15:04
113.   Jon Weisman
84 - not a problem.

109 - I did expect some reaction. That's why I updated my blog post. Since my message appeared about 12 hours before the blogad did, I figured that would be sufficient.

But again, this is nothing new. I have run ads with political content before. What I wrote up top was a reminder/clarification. And nothing about the rules changed. Don't discuss political views.

It really shouldn't take me saying this a bunch of times for it to register.

2008-01-26 10:50:05
114.   Sam DC
77 Huh, maybe I saw something about his tour without realizing it, because I had no idea he was touring and the idea that he had dropped off the face of the planet just popped into my head.
2008-01-26 10:54:01
115.   Marty
OK, we'll accept the political and the semi-nude blog ads. But we don't want the Irish blog ads!
2008-01-26 11:05:34
116.   Kevin Lewis
I forgot there are even ads on this site. I installed the ad blocker for Firefox and forgot about it.

Jon, thanks for creating such a great place to talk about the Dodgers. I appreciate your work every day.

2008-01-26 11:17:20
117.   D4P
Andrew has a name for people like you
2008-01-26 11:18:53
118.   Bob Timmermann
I guess I planned my trip to Europe correctly. Tuesday's forecast high in Munich is going to be -11 F.
2008-01-26 11:24:03
119.   Dodgers49
102 My Firefox features block the BlogAds completely.

This may be true for me on AOL as well as I've never seen an ad at this site and had no idea what anyone was talking about. But I'd welcome anything that would help Jon make a few bucks and keep this site going. My first act upon signing on is to find Dodger Thoughts.

2008-01-26 11:33:37
120.   kngoworld
Jon, just curious, do you receive any compensation for the number of clicks to your ads?
2008-01-26 11:50:32
121.   Jon Weisman
120 - No, they play a flat rate. But the number of clicks may play a role in how many ads I get.
2008-01-26 11:58:23
122.   Dodgers49
109 96 Sorry - I missed the update to the post. (I don't generally re-read the posts unless you put a pointer to an update in the comments.

Same here. I never miss a comment. Whenever I sign off I write down the number of the last comment I read and start there the next time I sign on. As a result, I almost never return to the top unless pointed there.

2008-01-26 12:03:46
123.   bhsportsguy
98 I agree with everything you said.
2008-01-26 12:20:45
124.   gibsonhobbs88
a little help needed with some old trivia that a friend asked me: Beside Billy Cox and Junior Gilliam any other 3B that played significant time for the Boys of Summer in the 40's and 50's. Also, I know they had kind of a revolving door in left field in the 40's and 50's - Andy Pafko, Amoros Gionfriddo-any other names of note that played LF for the Bums in the Boys of Summer era? Thanks!!
2008-01-26 12:21:00
125.   ToyCannon
Jay is much more then a chess set pitchman he is the best man I've ever met.

If any of you live in the Santa Clarita Valley and your child learns how to play chess, they will be the better for it only because Jay was involved.

2008-01-26 12:34:03
126.   Shotupthemiddle
124 Don Hoak springs to mind. And I think Jackie played over at third for a period of time....
2008-01-26 12:48:07
127.   deburns
In LF, Gene Hermanski, George ("Shotgun") Shuba, Dick Williams come to mind, Don Thompson also.
2008-01-26 13:05:19
128.   ToyCannon
This should give you everyone you need.
2008-01-26 13:25:14
129.   trainwreck
I just lived Bob's nightmare.

I had to go plant a peach tree for my grandmother.

2008-01-26 13:28:23
130.   D4P
I take it you didn't enjoy the fruits of your labor...
2008-01-26 13:33:01
131.   Bob Timmermann
When will America stop the horrible crime of forced peach tree planting?

I think we need a constitutional amendment to prevent this.

2008-01-26 13:37:10
132.   MC Safety
I packaged peaches for a summer in Colorado.

Insulatation has nothing on peach fuzz when it comes to overall itchiness.

2008-01-26 13:37:56
133.   LAT
129. How old is Grandam cause I think new trees take a few years to bear fruit.

BTW is a peach tree that doesn't bear fruit a capitol offense. Actually I guess its not a peach tree if it doesn't produce peaches. Never mind.

2008-01-26 13:39:07
134.   Marty
Your grandmother sounds like a fine person. Smart too.
2008-01-26 13:54:37
135.   Bob Timmermann
We had a peach tree in our backyard as a kid.

Then there was an ... incident.

2008-01-26 14:00:04
136.   D4P
Could you tell a lie...?
2008-01-26 14:04:51
137.   trainwreck
86, but I am not even sure if she cares about peaches. She can't read stuff, so I am not sure she even knew she was getting a peach tree.
2008-01-26 14:15:02
138.   overkill94
135 Did the peach tree touch you in an improper way? Is that where all the peach hate comes from?
2008-01-26 14:22:29
139.   Bob Timmermann
Actually I think my parents took the peach tree out and just made the lawn bigger. They then took over part of the backyard for a vegetable garden. And then that became a lawn.

As I recall, the peach tree produced something along the lines of 1-2 peaches per year.

2008-01-26 14:26:40
140.   Bluebleeder87

We have the same problem with our lemon tree Bob, your not alone.

2008-01-26 14:36:07
141.   Bob Timmermann
I believe the peach tree was removed from the backyard sometime during the Gerald Ford administration.
2008-01-26 14:36:52
142.   LogikReader
Ok, I won't make partisan political comments, but that ain't gonna stop me from saying "I got a kick out of that Obama ad on the side of this page."

I've never seen Max Headroom look so good!


2008-01-26 14:53:54
143.   Dodgers49
A new book mentions Bob's favorite player. :-)

Revisiting the Past in Vincent's Book

>> "We Would Have Played for Nothing," volume 2 of Fay Vincent's oral-history project. Scheduled for publication in April by Simon & Schuster, the book has 11 stars from the 1950s and '60s talking about their careers and their competitors. <<

## Robinson discloses another aspect of his historic managerial venture. When he agreed to manage the Indians, Robinson said he was actually paid a $20,000 salary for his role. ##

2008-01-26 15:01:55
144.   Dodgers49
RIP: Christian Brando
2008-01-26 15:08:08
145.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2008-01-26 15:11:15
146.   Jon Weisman
Two new posts up top, actually.

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