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Sweeney Signs
2008-02-12 10:38
by Jon Weisman

As rumored for the past few days, Mark Sweeney will be in Spring Training with the Dodgers this season (pending a physical), having agreed to contract terms with the team. Diamond Leung of the Press-Enterpise says that Sweeney would get $600,000 this year, but it sounds pro-rated - he's getting $125,000 if he makes the team. Sweeney can also earn up to $300,000 more in bonuses.

Meanwhile, read another classic story from ToyCannon at True Blue L.A.

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2008-02-12 10:50:54
1.   bhsportsguy
I think Torre's first press conference is tomorrow but you have better sources than I do on that type of subject.
2008-02-12 10:51:04
2.   Eric Stephen
I hope this doesn't get old...I'm going to repeat my request for projections for the 2008 Dodgers. I'll compile all the data. Please project the BA/OBP/SLG for the 10 "starters" (including Ethier/Pierre and Nomar/LaRoche). Also, if you want to include pitchers please predict ERA/WHIP for the starters and key bullpen members.
2008-02-12 10:59:11
3.   kinbote
Up until recently, the presence of Joe Torre has been hard to detect. However, I think the recent signings of Martinez, Myers, Martin, Seanez and--especially--Sweeney give a hint as to what Joe Torre must be whispering into Colletti's ear.

Based on some of Torre's quotes about the potential youth of our bench [and did he say something about wanting a second lefty in the pen?], I'd say he's the one that lobbied for a proven lefty pinch-hitter and a proven LOOGY.

I think most of us are assuming Seanez will make the team, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Sweeney on the bench. I still consider Martinez to be a less than 50/50 proposition, mostly due to the fact that Kent is liable to get many innings off, and we need the strongest defensive option possible to back him up.

Aside from injury updates, the fight for these last few roster spots will be the most interesting aspect of spring training this year.

2008-02-12 11:00:11
4.   Eric Stephen
Take that, 2003 Spurs!

If the Lakers win Wednesday in Minnesota, they'll finish 7-2 on their trip and compile the league's best record in nine or more continuous road games since neutral-site games were eliminated in 1974-75. (The San Antonio Spurs were 8-1 in a 2003 trip but came home before it ended.)

This Laker team continues to amaze me. Before the season, I hoped for maybe a 45 win season, but I was depressed that Kobe's departure seemed imminent. For them to be a legitimate championship contender so soon is so awesomely shocking to me.

2008-02-12 11:00:39
5.   regfairfield
3 Unless someone unexpected gets tossed, only Seanez and one of those other guys can make the team.
2008-02-12 11:01:49
6.   Jon Weisman
1 - Nope, you're right. I got my days mixed up.
2008-02-12 11:01:50
7.   regfairfield
4 That doesn't seem right at all. No one's gone better than 6-3 on a road trip for 32 years?
2008-02-12 11:03:54
8.   Jon Weisman
3 - I think 90 percent of managers, if not more, would advocate for the signing of additional options to non-guaranteed contracts.

And remember, the selection of the 25th man in March is about 1 percent as important as we make it out to be.

2008-02-12 11:03:56
9.   Eric Stephen
There have only been 12 road trips of 9 games or longer since the ABA/NBA merger. Only 4 teams have even had a winning record.

Well, now 5 with the Lakers, and possibly 6 with the Spurs, 4-3 on their current 9-game trip.

2008-02-12 11:04:08
10.   Jon Weisman
7 - Minimum nine games.
2008-02-12 11:04:38
11.   ToyCannon
Not many 9 game road trips are scheduled in the NBA. The Lakers and Clippers have extended road trips in Feb ever since they moved to the Staples center.
2008-02-12 11:04:41
12.   cargill06
2 add these on to my previous projections..

ehier .278/.344/.460
nomar .292/.348/.453

penny 1.38
lowe 1.28
c billllzzz 1.29
kuroda 1.24
loaiza 7-10, 4.83, 1.49
schmidt 5-2, 3.98, 1.38

saito 2.77, 1.01
broxton 2.26, .88
beimel 3.84, 1.22
proctor 3.44, 1.30

2008-02-12 11:07:23
13.   cargill06
12 sorry schmidt should be 5-4
2008-02-12 11:09:24
14.   regfairfield
9 Ah, that makes more sense. Didn't realize there were only 12 total.
2008-02-12 11:09:54
15.   Eric Stephen
That LA Times link says the NBA eliminated neutral site games in 1974-1975, but I remember Kareem passed Wilt for the all-time scoring lead against the Jazz in Vegas.

Was that considered a Jazz home game? I wonder if they played a few games a year in Vegas for a while.

2008-02-12 11:10:36
16.   kinbote
8 Fair enough, but this is also an organization that has basically given away viable options such as Victorino & Werth because they didn't fit. I think the more we add, the more likely it is that similar players, like Kuo & Young, might be discarded.
2008-02-12 11:12:00
17.   kinbote
Countdown to strongly-worded Canuck post that Young is NOT going to be left off the team . . .
2008-02-12 11:14:29
18.   regfairfield
17 Can I do it for him?
2008-02-12 11:14:29
19.   Jon Weisman
17 - Who said he would be?
2008-02-12 11:14:47
20.   Jon Weisman
19 - Oh, never mind. I'm not doing well today.
2008-02-12 11:15:52
21.   bhsportsguy
15 That year they played 11 "home" games in Las Vegas. The Jazz were facing rough times until they drafted a guard from Gonzaga and a forward not deemed good enough to make the 1984 Olympic team.
2008-02-12 11:17:48
22.   cargill06
3 i think ramon is more like 15/85 chance of making to club, and i think the only was sweeney makes the club is if pierre/ethier/young gets traded. the only was ramon makes the club is if abreu soils himself during ST
2008-02-12 11:18:23
23.   bhsportsguy
BTW-Pau Gasol is probably the best in-season pick up for the Lakers since Mychal Thompson and Bob McAdoo.
2008-02-12 11:18:57
24.   Eric Stephen
2008-02-12 11:21:57
25.   Dodgers49
Livan replaces Johan Santana

Livan Hernandez and Twins agree to $5 million, 1-year contract

2008-02-12 11:22:29
26.   cargill06
johan santana is better than livan hernandez
2008-02-12 11:25:48
27.   kngoworld
26 Says who?
2008-02-12 11:26:39
28.   MC Safety
Furcal: 285/345/420
Pierre: 275/330/340
Loney 330/375/480
Ethier: 300/360/450
Jones: 260/345/475
Kemp: 310/355/500
Kent: 285/350/450
Martin: 290/365/460
LaRoche: 275/360/445
Nomar: 310/333/420
2008-02-12 11:30:01
29.   Eric Stephen
I still think Dominique Wilkins won the 1988 Slam Dunk competition.
2008-02-12 11:32:50
30.   cargill06
27 just my opinion, i think he's better than loaiza too
2008-02-12 11:36:48
31.   ToyCannon
Bummer, I liked watching the old horse hit. If Micah Owings ever moves to the AL it will be a sad day.
2008-02-12 11:38:19
32.   wireroom
16 I can't imagine D.Young not making the team. He has to be the best option for a 5th outfielder, and they do need 5. With his bat that he wields, I look for him to be a nice treasure to be discovered by MLB this year.
2008-02-12 11:41:25
33.   kinbote
32 I think he's a lock too, but I worry about Kuo.
2008-02-12 11:41:31
34.   cargill06
32 i disagree, i think they only NEED 4 with the versitility of pierre, to play CF, and the ethier and kemp interchangeable in the corner outfield spots. with that being said they maybe forced to carry 5
2008-02-12 11:43:48
35.   regfairfield
34 We can't drop any outfielders, there are only seven on the 40 man. Without Young we'd be one injury away from having to call up Xavier Paul.
2008-02-12 11:45:46
36.   ToyCannon
Kuo is going to blow the coaching staff away in spring training.
2008-02-12 11:52:13
37.   wireroom
36 Do you think he still has something left in his arm after all of those surgeries? Before last year, I was convinced he was going to be the lefty version of Wang.
2008-02-12 11:52:27
38.   Marty
Either that, or he'll blow his arm away.
2008-02-12 11:52:57
39.   bhsportsguy
NBA oddities:
Only 4 teams in the Western Conference would not be in the playoffs if they played in the East.

However, only 2 Eastern Conference teams (Boston and Detroit) would make the playoffs in the West if the playoffs started today.

2008-02-12 12:00:14
40.   Dodgers49
FWIW, this article on Sweeney says he can play the outfield:

>> Sweeney, who can play first base and the outfield, has a .260 career batting average while playing 13 seasons with St. Louis, San Diego, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Colorado, San Francisco and Los Angeles. <<

2008-02-12 12:01:57
41.   cargill06
any new news on elbert?
2008-02-12 12:05:15
42.   wireroom
40 Yeah I just thought of that too which makes me worry a little bit, but I think a lot of people are in D.Youngs corner in the organization. Logan White among others and Colletti has sadi good things about him too. Hopefully Sweeney is just insurance or something like that.
2008-02-12 12:07:40
43.   Bob Timmermann
MARK Sweeney has played more games in the outfield in his career than at first base.
2008-02-12 12:09:31
44.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
Is anyone besides me worried we have no left handed starting pitching? Kuo/Hull/Stultz could make appearances during the season, but as of now, no LHP.

7 11 Off topic, but the most non-neutral game of all time is still Game 6 of the 2002 West. Conf. Finals. 26 foul calls in the 4th quarter! -Bitter Kings Fan

2008-02-12 12:09:32
45.   still bevens
42 Don't forget Vin. If Vin Scully had input on roster moves D. Young would not only make the team, he would probably bat third.
2008-02-12 12:09:51
46.   Eric Stephen
I believe we are going with Mack Daddy Sweeney as the moniker of choice, or if you are a fan of the movie "The Cutting Edge", M.D. Sweeney.
2008-02-12 12:09:55
47.   cargill06
don't know if it was touched on at all, but conte did say schmidt will not participate with other pitchers during spring training but will be on his own program
2008-02-12 12:10:36
48.   Eric Stephen
If Scully had input on roster moves, the team might have signed Pedro Feliz.
2008-02-12 12:12:31
49.   Bob Timmermann
Vin lost his mancrush on Feliz the last two years. He realized that he couldn't hit.
2008-02-12 12:14:37
50.   wireroom
45 You better believe it! Vin talks D.Young up in the same way he loves talking about Craig Counsell. "One thing abouth is kid Young, he can really hit." Man, only a few more months until I get to fall asleep to that dude on a Saturday afternoon.
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2008-02-12 12:15:49
51.   MC Safety
48 And Matt Herges would have been resigned a long time ago.
2008-02-12 12:16:59
52.   bhsportsguy
44 Never try to catch an NBA game in another country, I did not even know the Lakers won the series until nearly 24 hours after the game.

Someone close to me who is the biggest Laker fan and season ticket holder told me that he was embarrarssed by the calls in that game.

But then again, the Kings had their chance to win Game 7 (let alone Kings fan will never forget seeing Vlade tip the ball out to Horry and then seeing Horry make that shot).

2008-02-12 12:20:23
53.   wireroom
There should be a blog about all of Vin's favorite players. The guys who he can't help but tell you about "how his father used to make him shovel gravel to build up his arm strength," kind of guys.
2008-02-12 12:20:39
54.   Eric Stephen
The calls in Game 5 weren't the best either. But I know, Game 6 was pretty bad.
2008-02-12 12:20:49
55.   MC Safety
You like taking naps during Dodger games? Or are you saying Vin puts you to sleep?
2008-02-12 12:22:33
56.   MC Safety
55 > 50
2008-02-12 12:22:49
57.   wireroom
55 Well, for both reasons, but in a good way.
2008-02-12 12:23:21
58.   bhsportsguy
54 Yeah, I tend not to harp on that game since the Lakers won the series.

It will be interesting to see if the Suns avoid what the Kings and maybe the Mavericks fate of being close to a title but never having enough to win it.

2008-02-12 12:25:12
59.   El Lay Dave
43 True, but the last season that happened was 2004. I wonder how Torre feels about a 38-year old as the fifth OF on his depth chart? (I know how Lasorda feels; he used to throw Manny and Davalillo out there occasionally.)
2008-02-12 12:26:02
60.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
51 I hate to ever poke fun at Vin, but Ryan Freel would be in our OF, and Vinnie Chulk would be in the bullpen.

52 Game 7 hurt because Christie and Peja put up airballs, and we choked at the FT line.

Growing up in Sacramento as a Dodger Fan wasn't easy, but it was destiny i could pick up Vin's voice from a station broadcasting in Fresno.

2008-02-12 12:26:04
61.   Jon Weisman
44 - I might worry if someone could tell me why it would matter.
2008-02-12 12:26:28
62.   bhsportsguy
54 I have never seen any highlights of Game 6 so I will have to take everyone's word about it.

Certainly the highlights of the 2000-2002 NBA title runs, playoffs wise, was Game 7 of 2000 Western Conference finals, the sweep of the Spurs in 2001, and then the Kings series in 2002.

It is probable that without a few breaks, the Blazers and the Kings could have won titles if not for Brian Shaw and Robert Horry.

2008-02-12 12:29:15
63.   Sagehen
55 There are few things in life more pleasurable that falling asleep to the mellifluous voice of Vin Scully -- usually around the 4th inning, only to awaken in the 7th to see the Dodgers pull out a come from behind victory.
2008-02-12 12:31:08
64.   wireroom
63 That is exactly what I am talking about. It is meditative.
2008-02-12 12:32:04
65.   wireroom
60 I wonder what it takes to make it into the Vinny Club?
2008-02-12 12:33:27
66.   LogikReader
Speaking of Divac, do we put him on the list of "Legends of Laker Centers?"
2008-02-12 12:36:57
67.   bhsportsguy
61 There's this thought, the Dodgers have never won a World Series (Brooklyn or LA) without a lefthander starting at least one game in the Series.

In fact, they have not played in a World Series in LA without a left-hander starting at least one game.

(It helps when you have Podres, Koufax, John, Downing, Reuss, and Fernando).

Does anyone remember who was that lefthander who started in the 1988 World Series?

2008-02-12 12:37:49
68.   bhsportsguy
66 Next to Darrell Imhoff, Ray Krebs and Mel Counts.
2008-02-12 12:38:21
69.   El Lay Dave
66 Only because he netted the Lakers Kobe Bryant!
2008-02-12 12:38:39
70.   Eric Stephen
I was on the phone with my cousin as the Trail Blazers widened their lead to 15, and I was pretty depressed. The Lakers, who hadn't won a title for 12 seasons at that point, were about to blow a 3-1 series lead.

I stayed on the phone with him for the rest of the game, at first to have someone with which to complain about the Lakers' fate, but my confidence coming back with every shot made (especially Shaw's banked 3!). The Kobe to Shaq alley-oop is one of my favorite Laker moments ever. In fact, as I'm typing this I'm pointing with both hands like Shaq did on that fateful day.

2000: Kobe to Shaq -

2002: "Horry for the win..." -

Also some classic Shaq -

2008-02-12 12:38:45
71.   LogikReader

...maybe Elden Campbell too, I guess

2008-02-12 12:39:40
72.   Eric Stephen
John Tudor, who made Kevin Brown seem jovial!
2008-02-12 12:40:48
73.   El Lay Dave
67 John Tudor.
2008-02-12 12:41:48
74.   fanerman
70 I was writing a report for school for that Game 7 and I didn't realize the Lakers were down by so many. My friend told me the Lakers were gonna lose and I thought of betting him $20 (or some small amount) that the Lakers would win. It just was not possible in my mind for the Lakers to lose that game. But I've never been much of a betting man, so I didn't place it. Of course the Lakers made that amazing comeback. O how I should have appreciated those days better.
2008-02-12 12:42:49
75.   El Lay Dave
1 minute, 8 seconds - just awful.
2008-02-12 12:43:08
76.   ToyCannon
I never like Tudor because we traded Pedro for him. I'd have felt worse if Pedro didn't have that 81 ring.
I remember watching Tudor pitch and wonder how he got major league hitters out.

That game was the greatest live experience I've ever had. Never had I left a building higher then I did that day. The Lima game was 2nd.

2008-02-12 12:44:04
77.   El Lay Dave
68 Mel Counts! Too bad Ray Krebs wasn't a baseball player - I would have loved for him to hit a single, double, triple and homer in the same game.
2008-02-12 12:45:15
78.   Eric Stephen
More about that 2000 team. The Lakers and the Blazers played each other when they both amazingly had 45-9 records. The Lakers won the game, and finished 67-15, while Portland slumped to a 14-14 finish ending up at 59-23. All that work to get home court advantage, and the Lakers were about to blow it!

God bless Brian Shaw.

2008-02-12 12:46:11
79.   Eric Stephen
1 minute, 8 seconds - just awful

I think that was the length of Tudor's WS start!

2008-02-12 12:47:00
80.   Sac Town Dodger Fan
67 Great historical statistic to know. Can we pass this on to NedCo?

70 The Horry shot to me is like watching Jack Clark hit the HR in the playoffs, or Ozzie Smith hitting the HR, with Jack Buck telling me to "Go Crazy!)

2008-02-12 12:47:24
81.   LogikReader
70 , 76

First of all, to TC, what a wonderful story you posted on True Blue LA this morning. Especially good timing to write that close to Valentines Day.

The Horry Buzzer beater is permanently etched in my memory. I envy anyone who got to see that in person (like TC).

If you listen closely to the clip, you'll notice Marv Albert is actually saying something after the buzzer, but the crowd is so LOUD that he literally gets drowned out.

2008-02-12 12:48:27
82.   MC Safety
63 Hilarious. I would have to go back to mid to late 2005 for one of those memories but I dont think we ever came back that year. I think a lot of Dodger fans drunk themselves to sleep that year.
2008-02-12 12:48:56
83.   Eric Stephen
I need to get my Lakers DVDs back, just to hear Chick Hearn after the 2000 series with Portland. Chick said something like, "Portland better have their bottled water, because they won't be drinking any champagne!"
2008-02-12 12:49:12
84.   ToyCannon
I liked that championship because going into the season I fully expected that it would take a year before they acclimated themselves to the triangle. I was never a big Shaq fan because I'm not a fan of his style of basketball but when he Kobe hit him on the fast break and he did the monster slam, the pure joy on his face and the crazy movements he did running back up the court will be my lasting memory of him.
2008-02-12 12:49:41
85.   regfairfield
80 How often does a team not have a lefty to begin with? If 95% of the time you have one, it makes sense that most teams that win the World Series have one on the staff.
2008-02-12 12:51:55
86.   Jon Weisman
67 - That doesn't speak to need, though, as I'm sure you realize.
2008-02-12 12:52:08
87.   Eric Enders
65 "I wonder what it takes to make it into the Vinny Club?"


Also, chowder.

2008-02-12 12:53:45
88.   ToyCannon
Thanks, it really was a valentines day card but I got an itchy finger.

I didn't see the 2002 Horry shot, I was referring to the Portland game. By 2002 I was selling my Laker playoff tickets because I couldn't afford them anymore and they stopped letting us buy extra tickets in the 3rd level.

2008-02-12 12:54:45
89.   ToyCannon
When Kuo wins game 3, he will keep the tradition alive.
2008-02-12 12:57:18
90.   MC Safety
83 That's the type of stuff that made Chick the best.
2008-02-12 12:57:27
91.   LogikReader
As long as we're reminiscing...

The KHJ intro theme song is probably one of the first memories I had of Lakers basketball. Sounds like it was composed on my Grandma's rinky dink synthesizer.

2008-02-12 13:02:59
92.   El Lay Dave
The Dodgers, you may recall, started no lefthanders 1993 - 1996 (two playoff appearances, no wins). They had Bobby Ojeda in 1992, then Dennys Reyes made 5 starts in mid 1997. Then, desiring left-handers, Carlos Perez was obtained. Maybe we should be careful what we wish for.
2008-02-12 13:05:43
93.   cargill06
92 i've said it many times before, the LH answer is out there... everyones favorite pudgy domincian odalis perez
2008-02-12 13:09:16
94.   silverwidow
Without Young we'd be one injury away from having to call up Xavier Paul.

If Paul produces at AAA, I don't see what the big deal is. I'd rather have him in L.A. than Repko.

2008-02-12 13:10:54
95.   paranoidandroid
We don't need a lefty to start games. We just need five solid starters. Period.

We had a few lefty starts last year that were not so great. Among them Big Bird, Wolf, Stults, and Wells (who was actually good for a short stretch).

Would you want any of them starting a playoff game for you? Or would you rather have a solid Lowe, Penny, Bills, Schmidt and Kuroda.

The next great lefty for the Dodgers is in the wings, he doesn't need to be on the opening day roster in March.

2008-02-12 13:11:09
96.   cargill06
94 that one injury away would be repko
2008-02-12 13:12:46
97.   regfairfield
94 Because he's not a finished product by any means.
2008-02-12 13:20:56
98.   El Lay Dave
Not that it means much, but...

Since the last Dodgers WS appearance, the least left-handed starts by a WS winner is easily the
2004 Red Sox - 1 start by Abe Alvarez, part of a July DH. Their normal starters were: Pedro, Schilling, Lowe, Wakefield and Arroyo - they started all but five games.

2008-02-12 13:21:16
99.   Disabled List
Thanks for all the Lakers clips, guys. This has made for a most enjoyable afternoon of non-work!
2008-02-12 13:23:24
100.   Eric Enders
Not having a lefty starter would have sucked five years ago, when the division had really good left-handed sluggers like Bonds, Helton, Klesko, LuGo, and Larry Walker. Now it's probably not such a big deal.
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2008-02-12 13:32:03
101.   bhsportsguy
Showing my age but the golden age of Swimsuit issues began with Cheryl Tiegs, then Christie Brinkley and ended with Kathy Ireland.

Now you have wives and girlfriends (nice going Jeff Gordon and Johnny Damon leaving your high school sweethearts for those gals); wannabe race car driver and dozens of beautiful women from across the world. That's great but there was something innocent back then that can never be recaptured.

2008-02-12 13:35:31
102.   cargill06
just browsing the web and stumbled upon this...

i'm sure some of you have seen her, but she is only a sophmore

2008-02-12 13:37:55
103.   Disabled List
The SI swimsuit issue has completely jumped the shark. It used to be scandalous for 13-year-old boys to get to look at beautiful half-naked women. Now, thanks to the internet and our hyper-sexualized culture, it's just not that big a deal anymore.

Man, I'm showing my age too.

2008-02-12 13:38:13
104.   Xeifrank
7 11 Off topic, but the most non-neutral game of all time is still Game 6 of the 2002 West. Conf. Finals. 26 foul calls in the 4th quarter! -Bitter Kings Fan

I was at that game, center court last row back. That game just evened things out from Game 5 in which the Kings got all the crucial calls from the officials. Game 5 was to Laker fans as Game 6 was to Kings fans. Seemed like the NBA wanted a Game 7, and what a game it was. It was there for the Kings to win and they choked in OT and I couldn't have been any happier.
vr, Xei

2008-02-12 13:42:30
105.   Eric Stephen
While we're at it, here are some more clips:

Magic Baby Sky Hook -

Magic banking a long two in Boston Garden (end of clip) -

Magic's final 3 in the 1992 AS Game -

Magic and his high basketball IQ against Portland 1991 -

James Worthy's Top 10 Playoff Plays - (#1 is a classic play)

2008-02-12 13:45:53
106.   El Lay Dave
104 Paraphrasing Shaq - one badly officiated game deserves another.
2008-02-12 13:46:08
107.   wireroom
87 So what is the "marching and chowder society?" It brings a bizarre image to my mind.
2008-02-12 13:49:40
108.   Bob Timmermann
Marching and chowder societies were civic groups that developed in the U.S. after the Civil War. A group of veterans in a town would get together to rehash old times and march around and do drills and then they would celebrate with a big feast of chowder.

The name eventually got applied to groups of people who banded together in support of a particular person or cause. Richard Nixon entered Congress after World War II with several other veterans and they referred to themselves as the "Chowder and Marching Society" or "Chowder and Marching Club."

2008-02-12 13:50:06
109.   Bob Timmermann
And yes I've researched this before and I answered the question at this site before.
2008-02-12 13:59:39
110.   wireroom
108 Thanks Bob. I figured you would be the one to give me the specifics. Now, after all of the years, I can put that nagging question to rest.
2008-02-12 14:01:45
111.   underdog
Cool, the Dodgers signed DB Sweeney Todd. An intimidating presence off the bench, to be sure.

I hope that because Sweeney's contract isn't guaranteed, if he looks lost this Spring they won't hesitate to cut him. Or alternatively, that there's definitely room to keep he and Delwyn. I'm fine with that, if so.

2008-02-12 14:02:27
112.   Xeifrank
110. A simple search on Bobkipedia could've netted you the answer. :)
vr, Xei
2008-02-12 14:11:09
113.   wireroom
112 I bet Bob kicks the door down at Trivial Pursuit.
2008-02-12 14:12:45
114.   ToyCannon
Youtube is what the internet is all about.

I was trying to find the Kuo bat flip for a story but it seems to have been deleted.

I still find the SI swimsuit a must gawk. The painted on swimsuits of your favorite sports team. Now that is classy.

2008-02-12 14:13:13
115.   regfairfield
111 With how our rosters are setup now, it's really hard to keep Sweeney and carry 12 pitchers at the same time.
2008-02-12 14:13:22
116.   MJW101
With all the "warm and fuzzy" about how Ned did not give away any youngsters and the signing of Torre we forgot that PVL love is still alive and well at Dodger Stadium. I would not be surprised at all if Ramon, Martin (LHRP) and Sweeney make the 25 man out of ST. I think Torre has a blind spot for PVLs just like Ned.
2008-02-12 14:18:18
117.   Eric Stephen
Speak of the devil:
2008-02-12 14:19:50
118.   El Lay Dave
114 Hard to believe that the clips archive has nothing for that day.
2008-02-12 14:20:26
119.   regfairfield
116 Unless we do something fatally stupid like DFA/waive people that we shouldn't, it's impossible for all three of them to make the team. There's 39 men on the 40 man and none of them are on it.
2008-02-12 14:22:23
120.   silverwidow
119 Sweeney is on it as of today. It's just not showing up yet.
2008-02-12 14:23:01
121.   El Lay Dave
117 "...shades of the Padres last year..."

Vin gives us a bonus good memory in the call.

2008-02-12 14:23:29
122.   ToyCannon
Sweet, everyone told me Boom Boom only hit PH home runs.
2008-02-12 14:26:26
123.   El Lay Dave
119 There could be a two- or three- for one trade that isn't fatally stupid.
2008-02-12 14:27:27
124.   kinbote
119 I'm not sure if DFAing Hull or Stults in order to open a roster spot for an NRI would be fatal, but it might be stupid, depending on the recipient of the honor. If space on the 40 man roster needs to be made, there are places to cut.
2008-02-12 14:27:36
125.   El Lay Dave
119 BTW, I'm in the same line of work as you, just down the road. Who knows, we may have mutual acquaintances.
2008-02-12 14:28:28
126.   Penarol1916
104. It evened things out and then some. I was somewhat partial to the Lakers in that series because my roommate was a big Laker fan and I had lived near Sacramento (and I have always hated every pro team of every city in which I have resided since I was 7). But Game 5's officiating was not nearly as egregious as Game 6, which goes down as the worst officiated game in a professional sports league that I have ever seen in my life.
2008-02-12 14:30:49
127.   Eric Stephen
Sweeney is not on the 40-man. His contract is not guaranteed, and will only be added to the 40-man if he makes the club out of spring training.
2008-02-12 14:31:11
128.   silverwidow
If a spot needs to be made, I would try to slip Mario Alvarez through waivers (nobody will claim him).
2008-02-12 14:32:47
129.   regfairfield
128 I can't see them doing that since Ned obviously feared someone taking him in the Rule V, and it's a lot easier to stash him on the 40 man than the 25 man.
2008-02-12 14:33:37
130.   silverwidow
127 I thought Sweeney was given a major league deal, therefore an automatic add to the roster. If he doesn't make the team, he will be removed. Maybe I misread something.
2008-02-12 14:34:26
131.   kinbote
128 I don't know. With the reputation Dodger pitchers have, it seems like we can't hide anyone. Speaking of which, are we going to have daily Wesley Wright updates during spring training?
2008-02-12 14:35:40
132.   El Lay Dave
130 Diamond Leung wrote, "He'd get $125,000 for making the team." I read that the same as "for being added to the 40-man roster."
2008-02-12 14:38:39
133.   El Lay Dave
131 I would monitor the White Sox closely to see if they really do have a major-league CF on their roster or not. ;)
2008-02-12 14:38:54
134.   Humma Kavula
Bob, where's the Griddle post on the week's biggest baseball news?

The Orioles are bringing back Steve Trachsel!

2008-02-12 14:40:42
135.   Bob Timmermann
Trachsel said he would write something up for me.

I'm still waiting.

2008-02-12 14:42:54
136.   cargill06
just in case anyone misses this sight

2008-02-12 14:50:14
137.   kinbote
133 Sadly, I think Jerry Owens is their guy. He actually did well late in the season, and he projects to be just about the same as Juan Pierre in terms of average and stolen bases. I imagine his defense is better [can it be worse?], he's younger, and he doesn't cost $9 million. I still think Angelos was our best hope.
2008-02-12 14:52:28
138.   cargill06
137 useless info out of the foothill league, jerry owens and kyle boller were a deadly deadly combo in HS, and Jerry Owens and James Shields were a good foundation for a HS baseball team.
2008-02-12 14:53:48
139.   cargill06
137 i think pierre will always have higher avg than owens, but OPS will be pretty similar
2008-02-12 14:59:05
140.   kinbote
139 Didn't Owens win a batting crown a few years ago? I think it was in the Southern League when it had all the good Dodger prospects.
2008-02-12 15:01:14
141.   Xeifrank
126. it's all water under the bridge now, or Three-peat under the bridge. I always hear from SacTown fans about the Game 6 officiating and they never seem to mention that the Game 5 officiating was awful and biased for the Kings. One may have been worse than the other, that part I won't argue about. Nonetheless, Game 5 was pretty bad. If Game 6 was the all time worst, then Game 5 was the 2nd all time worst. :)

Pro basketball is a tough game to officiate, that being said of the professional sports that I watch I'd say they are the worst and their judgement has the biggest influence on game outcomes. Of course this is just my opinion and probably that of Mark Cuban.

vr, Xei

2008-02-12 15:04:07
142.   El Lay Dave
137 Hmmm. Owens is already 27 and has ridiculously little power. Even in his hot last month 90% of his hits were singles. They did sign the Cuban guy whose name escapes me.
2008-02-12 15:04:40
143.   underdog
Anytime you feel like having doubts about the state of the Dodgers' rotation, just think about the Astros. Roy Oswalt is great, but then after that... an abyss.

Heard they may be signing Shawn Chacon soon. Maybe we can trade them Jason Johnson for someone.

Wesley Wright could have a good chance of making that staff!

2008-02-12 15:04:41
144.   regfairfield
I'm sure they'd stick Swisher there before either of them.
2008-02-12 15:09:49
145.   regfairfield
I'm sure they'd use Swisher before either of those guys.
2008-02-12 15:09:51
146.   cargill06
143 i just can't wait til spring, the biggest subject that not too many people touch on is schmidt, in 3 weeks we should have a much better grasp of what we can expect from him. if he gives us reason to hope there is no doubt about our rotation. how schmidt performs this spring is far more important than who plays LF, who plays 3B, who our utility IF's and 4th and 5th OF's are.
2008-02-12 15:10:42
147.   El Lay Dave
140 You sir, are correct. In 2005 Owens led with .331.
2008-02-12 15:10:47
148.   ToyCannon
Officiating in the sports I follow always leave me bewildered.
NBA - just about everything
NFL - holding and pass interference calls
MLB - balls and strikes differ from game to game
2008-02-12 15:14:13
149.   ToyCannon
If he can't, then he can't make any staff.

They better hope Tejada doesn't have visa trouble or they might be overtaken by the Pirates. When was the last time the Astro's were a last place team?

2008-02-12 15:14:43
150.   El Lay Dave
144 Maybe. I know Swisher played 50-60 games there for the A's, but is he really a CF? I can't find a minor-league breakdown for him.
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2008-02-12 15:17:50
151.   regfairfield
150 He's not great defensively, but if Owens, Alexil Ramirez or trading for Juan Pierre are your other options, I know who I'm turning to.
2008-02-12 15:19:58
152.   El Lay Dave
149 In 1991 Houston was last in the old NL West. Very bad pitching, yet they didn't try 24-year old Curt Schilling as a starter (hindsight).
2008-02-12 15:20:27
153.   LogikReader

Eric, did you know that the Lakers played the Trail Blazers on Feb 29th that year? That showdown game was on a date that shows up only once every 4 years.

And would you believe...?

The Lakers will once again go to Rose Garden in Portland to play the Trail Blazers on Feb 29th this year, the 8th anniversary of that pivotal meeting.

2008-02-12 15:20:38
154.   El Lay Dave
151 Me too, but we're not Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen!
2008-02-12 15:24:02
155.   regfairfield
If I'm the White Sox, I'd tried to trade Josh Fields for some pitching or a second baseman. They've already sacrificed their future and ensured they'll be lousy for the next half a decade to try to win this year, might as well go all out.
2008-02-12 15:26:40
156.   Eric Stephen
To quote Johnny Carson, "I did not know that."

The Lakers & Blazers will play this year on Terrence Long's 8th birthday!

2008-02-12 15:26:49
157.   Jon Weisman
Joe Sheehan's NL West preview

2008-02-12 15:30:33
158.   Jon Weisman
Games played while I was 30,000 feet in the air:

1) Magic's 42/15/7 to lead the Lakers to the 1980 NBA title
2) Back to back homers by Guerrero and Yeager in Game 5 of the 1981 World Series
3) Lakers fourth-quarter rally against the Blazers, as you've discussed

2008-02-12 15:33:20
159.   bhsportsguy
146 I disagree.

The Dodgers cannot be counting on anything from Schmidt until he proves he can pitch every 5th day, the Dodgers have a lot candidates for that 5th spot so while there will be more people watching whenever Schmidt pitches, my top 5 things to watch this Spring Training are:

1. Can Andy LaRoche have a good spring. I don't think it really matters what Nomar does this March, it really is all on Andy to play well this spring and take the job at 3B.
2. Any hints on what we can expect in terms of the outfield situation, its likely nothing really will come out Spring Training regarding the 4/3 outfield but it will be interesting to gauge whatever comments are made and I am sure there will be a scoreboard on which outfield configurations that start the "A" games will be posted here on DT.
3. The health of Kuo and Brazonban as well as Elbert and Morris. I want to see if Elbert can regain his status as a top prospect, will Morris be ready to start the year in Midland. It seems like an annual question with Kuo will he be healthy this year? Yhency, if healthy, is likely to spend time in Vegas for a while until the Dodgers decide that Seanez should just retire.
4. Will Myers, Martin or Kuo (or even Miller) make bids on being the other lefty in the pen.
5. How Torre (and Bowa) adapt to being in Blue? Not that it should be a big adjustment but Joe Torre unlike Grady Little, will be a newsmaker all by himself (like Phil Jackson). Not since Tommy has the Dodgers had a such a media friendly guy like Torre.

2008-02-12 15:38:29
160.   ToyCannon
The most important event to take place this summer will be how Tommy handles not being the center of attention for the 1st time in 31 years. He will play 2nd banana to Joe Torre.

You fly at inopportune times or you do drugs when things appear to be hopeless.

2008-02-12 15:42:35
161.   bhsportsguy
I wonder how LAT would have handled this situation.;_y...o&type=lgns

2008-02-12 15:43:28
162.   bhsportsguy
161 Let's try that again.

2008-02-12 15:44:52
163.   silverwidow
Olmedo Saenz is a Met (minor league deal).
2008-02-12 15:46:13
164.   ToyCannon
Joe did a nice job. He whiffed a little on Tracy since Tracy is coming back from microfracture surgery and his health is a ? so they won't be trading Conor Jackson anytime soon.
I also don't think getting Randy Johnson 20 starts means anything unless those starts are vintage Randy which is not what they got last year.
2008-02-12 15:47:56
165.   regfairfield
164 72 strike outs versus 13 walks in 56 innings, 3.80 ERA. I'd take 20 starts like that.
2008-02-12 15:48:23
166.   Bob Timmermann
That is really, really, really weird.
2008-02-12 15:49:04
167.   bhsportsguy
166 Has anyone ever carried a firearm into the library?
2008-02-12 15:55:30
168.   cargill06
159 well let me ask you this, would you be happier if schmidt is throwing 92 MPH is spring training and will be ready for opening day and JP starts in LF or Ethier starts in LF and Schmidt doesn't throw 1 inning in spring training?
2008-02-12 15:55:46
169.   underdog
I thought Sheehan's NL West preview was pretty spot-on, too. Good stuff. Made me laugh a few times even, particularly in the Giants section. The Dodgers write-up seems very accurate.
2008-02-12 15:56:08
170.   Dodgers49
153 The Lakers will once again go to Rose Garden in Portland to play the Trail Blazers on Feb 29th this year, the 8th anniversary of that pivotal meeting.

But is it really the 8th anniversary? :-)

2008-02-12 15:58:36
171.   bhsportsguy
168 The second option. Jason Schmidt's health is only slightly more important than Penny, Lowe, Billingsley and Hiroki's because he is coming off surgery. If Ethier is starting in LF at the beginning of the year, that will affect more wins than a healthy Jason Schmidt this spring.
2008-02-12 16:00:02
172.   ToyCannon
For once I posted without looking up the numbers. Your right, those will do just fine. I've seen his projections for 2008 and they are not pretty so I assumed his 2007 is what was driving those negative projections. HQ has him with a 1.42 WHIP and 4.40 ERA.
2008-02-12 16:00:32
173.   cargill06
171 i'd have to believe that a healthy ('06) jason schmidt vs esteban loaiza is worth more wins than playing Juan Pierre in LF over Ethier, but someone bombard me with #'s that i have no idea what they mean to prove me wrong
2008-02-12 16:00:57
174.   fanerman
168 Ethier starts. Not to say that the Dodgers would be better, but I'd probably be happier. Then again, I seem to have as paranoid an obsession with getting Pierre off the starting line-up as you have of adding even more pitching depth.

I don't expect a single inning from Schmidt. Maybe I'm alone on that. But I think the Dodgers can have a deep and strong rotation without Schmidt. Schmidt would be icing on the cake, but Schmidt's pitching fate seems like it's out of anybody's control. Pierre/Ethier and Nomar/Andy is out of my control and your control, but it's in someone's control.

2008-02-12 16:01:39
175.   ToyCannon
I agree, but that is because I want Kuo to get another shot and the less throwing Schmidt does in ST the better the odds that Kuo gets one last shot.
2008-02-12 16:02:31
176.   Jim Hitchcock
168 That's a pretty weird either/or question.
2008-02-12 16:02:52
177.   Jon Weisman
174 - "I don't expect a single inning from Schmidt. Maybe I'm alone on that."

On the contrary, sometimes I think I'm the only person who even thinks Schmidt might be in uniform Opening Day. Sometimes.

2008-02-12 16:07:08
178.   Eric Enders
Sheehan predicted the Giants to improve by one game, which I thought was a little weird given that their only offseason move was replacing the greatest hitter of all time with Aaron Rowand.
2008-02-12 16:08:19
179.   trainwreck
Reggie Bush's lawyers are insane and I really hope the NCAA does something to Bush and USC.
2008-02-12 16:09:25
180.   Gen3Blue
Sheehans take at least shows a current understanding of the division, which has been absent in a few places, particularly that supposed baseball broadcast that interviewed Jon. Joes thoughts on the division are probably quite fair( of course as a D's fan I am sitting here hoping this fall I will be saying--My god did he underestimate the Dodgers).
2008-02-12 16:10:07
181.   silverwidow
178 Ted Williams played for the Giants last year?
2008-02-12 16:10:12
182.   fanerman
177 I've never seen Jason Schmidt in a Dodgers uniform. Sometimes I have trouble believing the Dodgers actually signed him.
2008-02-12 16:13:42
183.   Eric Enders
162 "If Bush is found to have accepted the benefits, his Heisman Trophy could be in jeopardy. Should the NCAA declare him retroactively ineligible during the 2005 season, the Heisman Trust would be forced to determine whether to strip the award."

If this happened -- which would be awesome -- would they give it to Vince (its rightful owner), or just declare no winner for that year?

2008-02-12 16:17:14
184.   Eric Stephen
I would imagine it would be vacant, but c'mon! Was Vince Young really the rightful owner? If they awarded the trophy after the Rose Bowl, go ahead and give it to Young. But, Reggie Bush (NCAA rules infractions aside) does not have to apologize for rightfully winning that Heisman.
2008-02-12 16:23:53
185.   LogikReader
Irony of NedCo baseball moves:

Two of the guys he signed, Mueller and Schmidt, basically did not play 95% of the time they were signed.

but the one guy who we hoped would miss that many games, Juan Pierre, has played every single one. EVERY SINGLE... one!

2008-02-12 16:24:07
186.   Daniel Zappala
177 I'm on the record as hopeful. :-)
2008-02-12 16:26:22
187.   Dodgers49
177 sometimes I think I'm the only person who even thinks Schmidt might be in uniform Opening Day. Sometimes.

If it makes you feel better, you're not alone. :-) I'm counting on the new procedure used on Schmidt actually working and him being useful this year. Maybe after an extended spring training.

2008-02-12 16:26:43
188.   Joe Pierre
Toy Cannon sure brings back memories, It doesn't seem like 20 years. My wife and I separated in 1987 and I was with this girl living in an apartment in Brooklyn. Funny it almost sounds the same. We didn't have a T.V. Actually for a while we didn't even need one. Whenever we were in front of one we hardly watched it. BUT in '88, Hershiser, Gibson & the boys were heading to the NLCS with the Mets and everything changed. My team played a big part in my life. I had to run out a get a TV set. We all know how exciting things got after that. **One thing about Sweeney, he doesn't worry anyone that he will take somebody's job.
2008-02-12 16:41:54
189.   Jon Weisman

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