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Fans and beat writers near and far (well, okay, mostly far - from near, anyway) are raving about the defense of Delwyn Young at second base today for the Dodgers. As Tony Jackson of the Daily News wrote, Young "made two lunging plays to his left in the first inning, then made a spectacular play behind the bag in the third, getting the runner at first each time."
Folks are speculating that Young's reemergence as a viable infielder (keeping in mind this was just one game) could allow the Dodgers to keep Tony Abreu playing regularly in the minors and dispense with Ramon Martinez-types. The qualification is that no one seems ready for Young to be a backup at shortstop.
But do the Dodgers really need anything more on the 25-man roster than an emergency shortstop, as long as Rafael Furcal is healthy? Furcal is an everyday player - last year, of course, he was all-too everyday. If Furcal got hurt, then you could call up Abreu or Chin-Lung Hu as a replacement. If you needed someone mid-game, well, worse things have happened than shift a third baseman to short for a few innings.
Of course, we're getting ahead of ourselves. It's still only March 1; we may still want Abreu on the roster at the end of the month. It's not as if there isn't room for both Abreu and Young on a five-man bench, if you start Jason Repko in the minors.
Mostly, it's just nice to see Young getting such positive exposure.
In other news:
Update: Ross Porter offers this appreciation of Shawn Green at Real Sports Heroes.
Shawn has been scheduled to be our "Real Sports Hero" on March 20th on KABC for several weeks now, and still will be, only now as a retired player. In that vignette, I say that what he has done off the field may be more significant. While playing in Los Angeles, Green donated one and a half million dollars in six years to support the development of four baseball fields in the city. The money also went for the purchase of books for local elementary schools and youth community programs. ...
Or for that matter, Jason Repko used to be a shortstop.
Mark Hendrickson was not drafted as a shortstop.
Hoooray! I am not the only one who believes Nomar could make a swell super-utility man. For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Dodgers have yet to give him some action in left field.
Assuming he could be a decent LF, he could give Torre a ton of flexbility. You could use him in a pinch at all four IF spots and LF, and he should be a decent PH.
For those lucky enough to see the Dodgers on TV in spring training, I would love to see your detailed reports on how LaRoche looks as a hitter. Specifically, is he covering the outside part of the plate, at least most of it? Not saying he needs to belt outside-black pitches for home runs, and I realize some hitters like Garvey chased sliders off the outside corner forever. This is different. Andy's outside coverage needs work.
Near as I can tell, that's why some of the Dodgers brass are skeptical about him, or at least more skeptical than his excellent minor-league statistics show. It's a little similar to the Andy Marte debates. Against better pitching, Marte's inability to cover most of the outside part of the plate was exposed. It put him on the yo-yo between Triple-A and the majors. I tend to think the Braves scouting evaluation was affirmed there. f you're giving up too much of the outside part of the plate, you might not be in trouble in the PCL or another Triple-A league, but you're in big trouble in the majors.
It's pretty doubtful Nomar would be a decent left fielder, but in an emergency ... :)
The defense was the highlight of an otherwise dull game. Other notes: The Dodgers only had two hits, and one (Martin's) could have been ruled an error. Because they were wearing helmets, I confused the base coaches for baserunners on more than one occasion. Nomar only saw about 4 pitches (in 3 at-bats). The Mets fans really love stupid heckling about Hu's name. There were three beachballs. Tradition Field is nicer than Shea Stadium.
That is all.
I hear you...Guess I like the "super" part of his utility role, supers being guys who play IF and OF. Seems to me that in the interest of preparation, now is the time Nomar would at least be exposed to the OF so that he could be somewhat prepared there, in the event of an emergency. Very small point.
http://www.realsportsheroes.com/notebook.php
Go Bulldog!
I am not one of those "I told you so" people. Rarely do I say that. However, for those who have consistently said that Delwyn cannot play second base, I would love to say that rare phrase after he proves that he can.
While being more versatile will help his chances of making the team, I still suspect we'll see Abreu on the squad as the late inning defensive replacement for Kent. Angel Chavez looked overmatched at second base on Friday, not that one game means everything, but that is the Ramon-type I think Jon was referring to.
Overall a solid No. 3 starter.
Who knew?
Thank you, Shawn. You were a great player and from what I have heard, you have been a great person to the fans. Thank you for the memories.
I sure enjoyed the Hebrew Hammer era. I wouldn't mind seeing you take over for Mark Sweeney one day. Keep your options open.
Time can tear down a building
Or destroy a woman's face
Hours are like diamonds
Don't let'em waste
-The Rolling Stones
Destroy? That's pretty heavy man. I always wondered what their female fans thought of that line. Time doesn't merely age their face, it bloody DESTROYS it. Like what it would look like after Godzilla got done with it.
https://bronxbanter.baseballtoaster.com/archives/915555.html
Either that, or you worse hitters ahead of him.
I don't need no stinking "Preview comment before saving".
If so can someone tell me the station?
Station On Dial City
KABC 790 Los Angeles
KHJ 930 *Los Angeles
KDEF 1150 +Albuquerque
KNZR 1560 Bakersfield
KBOV 1230 Bishop
KROP 1300 Brawley/El Centro
XESS 620 *Enseneda/Tijuana
KCBL 1340 Fresno
KYVA 1230 +Gallup, NM
KAVL 610 Lancaster/Palmdale/Victorville
KSFN 1140 Las Vegas
KPSI 920 Palm Springs
KFUL 1270 *Palm Springs
KPRO 1570 Riverside
WSTA 1340 +St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands
KYNS 1340 San Luis Obispo/Santa Maria
KHTS 1220 Santa Clarita
KVEN 1450 Ventura/Santa Barbara
WTTB 1490 +Vero Beach, FL
KEZL 1400 Visalia
Now your interested!
I might have had one free up because of a Wiggles conflict.
790 is nice, it is the 1st time I've been able to listen to the game at home in ages. To bad I have to listen to Rick and Charlie.
If I have to hear that commercial for certain surgical procedures all season, I will have to get small incisions to my ear drums.
Just you wait.
BTW, have you fixed your TV so it blackouts the players from that unnamed school UCLA is playing today?
Now my cable company wouldn't agree to it.
Instead I just run up to the screen fast and black out the names with a Sharpie.
Steiner: "If Torre believes in you, he's not afraid to let you stay in the game."
Presently Michigan State leads 59-29 with a little over one minute left.
I guess USC isn't coming to Pasadena until the end of the year.
I, for one, look forward to a year of Ben Olson overthrowing UCLA's slow receivers with bad hands.
(Or the third alterniative: I am a really bad speller. (Which is indeed true.))
Not sure where those periods go-- don't want this thread to take a period in the parentheses turn.
I guess it should be capitalized.
(I was there last night, Big Chill. Had an embarassing moment. Was with wife and kids, ordered 4 yogurts to go and realized I had no cash and found out they don't take credit cards. Ooops.)
ps by the way im typing all of this with my left hand (mobile) cause i have ice on my right shuolder and elbow.
Pass complete. Gain of two. Second down.
"Hello there, a DodgerThoughter dropping by, can one of you seasoned Torre watchers drop by DT sometime and tell us if Torre uses the same relievers over and over more than usual."
In short, yes.
In long form, Cliff Corcoran has a post in the archives called "The Lesson of Stevie Hearsay". It goes up through 2005 and describes Torre's formulaic overuse of "his guys" in great detail.
Since then, we've seen "The Formula" first hand - once a guy is plugged into a role, its his; nothing short of injury (or a command from the FO) can disrupt "The Formula".
Based on Jon's roster listing on the sidebar, I'd say in a save situation, you'll see Proctor (7th), Broxton (8th), and Saito (9th), with Beimel mixed in as needed. As long as Broxton and Saito are OK, that'll be fine. For your guys' sakes, I hope neither of them gets hurt or pitches poorly.
http://www.protrade.com/content/DisplayArticle.html?sp=Sfc307e48-e87b-11dc-bfa8-9568e713147f
But if they win seven games next year, I'll be pleased.
You mean there will be a chance for the signing of the historic Brock-Timmermann Pasadena Peace Accord this fall?
And should I invite Rick Neuhesiel to participate in the Griddle's NCAA tournament contest this year?
Or so I've heard. Once or twice. A week.
The MLB.com box score is behind.
Now a runner on 1st with Sweeney up.
Rob Neyer described the proposed deal as a Dodgers fan "worst nightmare."
"Maybe this is just a lot of idle talk. Maybe the Dodgers really do know that LaRoche is a future star, and that Inge is a future stay-at-home dad. But if I were a Dodger fan right now I'd be very, very afraid. Because the only thing that's going to keep the Dodgers from playing important games in September is boneheaded moves like this one."
An "L" for the Dodgers. I look forward to next week when we'll see more minor leaguers playing at the end rather than NRI players like Flotsam and Jetsam or whoever was pitching there at the end.
I refuse to believe it. If I try to believe it, my head will explode.
The other explanation could be the Dodgers weren't publicly commenting on any feelers the Tigers put out, to see how it flies out there in PR and Web-land. It doesn't fly very well, so I hope that's the end of it.
Your powers of persuation are stronger than you think.
It's a UCLA basketball game. You only need to watch the last 5 minutes of the first half and the first 10 of the second half.
He also has a tendency to go for experience over youth, often to detriment. He continually trotted Bernie Williams out to CF even when every single person could see he could no longer field, throw or hit. Then, he just played him as the everyday DH. I think you guys should be worried about LaRoche becoming expendable or riding the bench because Nomar is considered a vet who's "been there" before.
Doesn't Torre remember Nomar sulking on the bench during the marathon game at Yankee Stadium when Jeter fell face first into the stands to make a catch?
I keep forgetting to mute the game until Billy Packer says something.
Otherwise, nice start for UCLA.
>> If everything goes O.K. through spring training and the requisite minor league rehab starts, Prior is expected to make his Padres debut around June 1. <<
http://tinyurl.com/2crhcy
"Vets lead the way, but Dodgers fall"
Alright, go UCLA, but I'm outta here.
>> So far, Park is enjoying his return to the Dodgers. One of his first calls upon signing was to the legendary Sandy Koufax, who he had a chance to work with early in camp and many times during his first stint with the organization. <<
http://tinyurl.com/28tjhs
Could you stop writing the letters to CBS praising him? You've turned Billy Packer into the Joe Morgan of college basketball!
>> The fifth spot in the rotation is up in the air until Jason Schmidt's shoulder is ready, which likely won't be until May 1. But one Dodgers official said Friday, "My guess is June." <<
## One NL West manager said last season that "Billingsley will be the best pitcher in our division" within two years. ##
http://tinyurl.com/2sn4ht
Nice piece.
So you didn't watch the USC-UCLA game on Feb. 17?
Love was 2 of 4 on 3-pointers that night.
How did Westbrook get that back?
per Diamond Leung
http://tinyurl.com/38skdv
http://thenutgraph.blogspot.com/2008/03/our-colleagues.html
John Wooden wasn't well off when he was UCLA's basketball coach.
I bet he did not have problems getting onto courses.
That's in the public domain.
UCLA's team has played at Riviera for a long time, so I assume he got invited to play there. Eddie Merrins, whom Packer alluded to as the source of the anecdote, was both UCLA's coach and a pro at Riviera.
I can breathe now.
1) I didn't know the Laker game was going on now.
2) I care.
Looks like there will be free basketball for Jon.
Can the Beavers go 0-18? This could be their best chance for a win.
102 Torre might surprise us all. The problem is, Torre's history screams "I won't trust kids unless I absolutely have to." A Juan Pierre DL-trip followed by Kemp hitting like Shane Spencer in August of '98 would be the ideal situation.
The other fear is, especially for Broxton, that Torre comes to rely on him too much, and works his arm into the ground, leading to injury trouble down the road. Now maybe Broxton is one those rubber-armed dudes who can handle that. For your folks' sakes, I hope he is.
+ speed( SB -2(CS)) gives Pierre 718. Quick and dirty-yes. Without much theory behind it --yes. Fair?-- I think so. These numbers were for 2007.
Key Pac-10 games:
Tonight, Civil War.
Thursday, UCLA hosts Stanford for the regular conference championship; USC clinches at least 4th place if they can beat Cal; Arizona and Oregon try to add to their NCAA resume.
Saturday: Washingon State can clinch 3rd place in the Pac-10 with a win at home against Washington; Arizona State can guarantee a bye into Thursday but could Oregon State's last shot to avoid an undefeated season; and the aforementioned, Oregon hosting Arizona to finish in the top 6 in the Pac-10.
God, I really really don't ever want to see Gary Bennett hit for the Dodgers. Let alone 4 times in one game. Good lord.
http://tinyurl.com/33hp5z
It almost sounds like he thinks that is a bad thing.
Torre held a long meeting on Sunday morning with owner Frank McCourt and general manager Ned Colletti regarding the state of the team. "It was just catching up," Torre said. "It's the first time I've seen them in the spring."
Would love to hear what they discussed. Maybe something along the lines of "go get me a 5th starter" and "forget about that that thing (Inge) we discussed yesterday. Andy looked good out there today." Or "I'd like to get a look at the kid-Kershaw"
How many groins does Seanez have?
Unless Seanez has some unusual anatomical disorder, I believe he has two groins.
I can post pictures using myself as a model, but I believe it would run afoul of several of Jon's guidelines.
That quote sounds like a good thing to me. Sounds like he is impressed with how good our young guys are and how many we have.
I'm sorry, I'm still paranoid about Colletti and Torre in collusion to not give our prospects a fair chance. But I feel the longer they wait, the longer the baseball literature and even the "common wisdom" could penetrate their thoughts. As the
Stones once sang "Time, is on my side".
Yes it is!
But I won't say where.
In their "The Departed" satire, the episode ends with Ralph Wiggums pointing to a passing rat. Ralphie: "The rat symbolizes obviousness!"
UCLA 14-2, 26-3
Stan 13-3, 24-4
WSU 10-7, 22-7
USC 9-7, 18-10
ASU 8-8, 18-10
Ore 7-9, 16-12
___ 7-9, 17-12
Wash 7-10, 16-14
Cal 6-10, 15-12
OSU 0-16, 6-22
If UCLA and Stanford tied at 15-3, the first tiebreaker would be record against the team with the next best record. Both UCLA and Stanford swept WSU. UCLA lost a game to USC and Stanford lost a game to ASU.
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