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Best wishes go out to former Dodger Davey Lopes, who will be undergoing treatment for prostate cancer. Folks are optimistic about his recovery.
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I say this in all sincerity I think it's a shame that the Dodgers are going to lose a sightseeing day in China because their departure date had to be rescheduled. If you go all that way, you want to be able to smell some sightseeing roses.
I can't wait for that debate.
Hamels - http://tinyurl.com/3x4jdx
Fielder - http://tinyurl.com/2qgoq9
Papelbon - http://tinyurl.com/2tr5jl
I still think the Dodgers would be wise to sign Martin (at least) through his arb years ASAP to save money over that term.
Also, ToyCannon, I've been meaning to respond to your list of catchers that peaked at age 26 or sooner, but I haven't had time. Hopefully by tonight I will craft my retort.
vr, Xei
1) They actually let people climb the Great Wall? and
2) If it's climbable, I guess it must not have served its purpose too well.
Levity aside, best wishes to Davey.
Like most people, the fact that I love or even like baseball is directly attributable to my dad. He played catch with me, took me to my first game, etc etc. I know he regrets not coaching my teams, but being a Rabbi, he tended to work Saturdays. He did get to coach one season of tee-ball when I was 8 and he was on sabbatical.
I noticed with some surprise that Davey Lopes is 62. I thought he would have been younger. Sounds like he's got a number of years left ahead of him, and I sure hope that's the case. My dad is 65. His original diagnosis was 9 years ago. Though we never were told at the time, apparently a reasonable prognosis would have been 5 years. That being the case, I should probably feel at least prepared, at best like we've been playing with house money. Not the case. I feel like I can't understand how this happened so quickly. Since late 1999, we've gotten a bunch more ball games, countless rounds of golf, good meals, good talks, and not to be downplayed, my dad getting to know my wife and two daughters. If we had nine more years, I could do a lot better.
I'm supposed to make my first and obviously last trip to Vero Beach to see the Dodgers next week. My mom insists she wants me to go. Frankly, I want to go, too. But I'm not going to indulge in any of that "dad would have wanted . . ." stuff. I've always felt, with due respect, that people say that to justify whatever it is that they themselves want to do. Baseball was an important part of our relationship, but it doesn't proxy for it. And besides, my dad is not a Dodger fan. So I'm going to go. If I need to come back, I need to come back.
In closing, I don't wish this on anyone, including Davey Lopes who I loved watching play when I was a kid. That, and don't forget to hug your kids, and your parents, and tell people you care about how you feel about them.
vr, Xei
And yes, I know what this means for me. I lost a lot of weight and drink a lot of green tea.
All the best to your father and your family.
I study prostate cancer (cell signaling, specifically). I have to focus on so much minutiae (in the grand scheme of things) that it's sometimes easy to forget how this disease affects people.
Does green tea have some specific antioxidants that help prevent prostate cancer?
I agree completely. But in his place should be a good internal candidate, not some scrub that has experience.
That reminds me about why my mother gave up her job as a medical lab technician. This was back in the 1950s and she got a blood sample from a man and she could tell that the man had leukemia. She had never seen a real slide with it before and at first, she was very excited, then she realized that, at the time, she was essentially giving someone a death sentence.
She gave up the job soon after.
My friend is going going back home to Taiwan this month and he is traveling all over Asia. He apparently is going to walk the entire Great Wall. He says he will have to basically just fend for himself in the wilderness in some parts of it.
So we shouldn't sign Zach Braff? ;-)
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23 , 28 I've certainly noticed that medical professionals that deal with the seriously ill have their own coping mechanisms. Some of them are bizarrely cold and clinical. Some are even hostile. But I imagine you just have to block the personal stuff out if its your job.
"... and not to be downplayed, my dad getting to know my wife and two daughters ..." This is something truly to be thankful for. My mother-in-law passed away when my daughter was only six and that is a bit of a void that cannot really be filled. I am thankful that my daughter has memories of her grandmother, but it could have been so much more.
Now as for that 17th place ranking of Saito by Evans... at least the other three guys weren't quite so blind about him.
vr, Xei
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There are probably as many coping mechanisms as there are people in the profession.
My Dad was diagnosed 3 weeks ago and today he has his meeting to decide his treatment. He's 80 so surgery is not an option and my oldest brother is there to make sure he understands the options. The grandkids are now grown, he's had a good life, and he's tired of being old and not mattering anymore. I have a feeling he is not going to choose any treatment at all for reasons best not gone over here and is anxious to see if living the perfect Catholic life has the post-life rewards that he bought into.
Incidentally, I believe one of the trials she worked on was using one of the isomers of thalidomide; there is a left-handed one and a right-handed one; the right-handed one is beneficial, while the left-handed one causes birth defects:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Possible_indications
Interestingly enough, and germane to this dicussion, one of the cancers they're looking at treating with thalidomide is prostate cancer.
Peavy received a very rude and painful reception in his return to the mound when he took a painful comebacker off his groin area on Sunday, reports the North County Times. First of all Peavy owners, you can relax. It looked worse than it actually was, Peavy was unharmed and essentially unaffected by the freak play. The most humorous part of this article was this little quote from Peavy himself, "I don't wear a cup," Peavy said. "They're not comfortable. My teammates think I'm crazy. ... The funny thing is my next pitch was probably my best of the day." Maybe Peavy owners should be holding their breath after all?
Pitchers can pitch without cups and we wasted time talking about helmets for base coaches.
You spend a lot of time and do, in meaningful ways, "know" folks here, so the impulse to share makes a lot of sense.
When my dad passed, lung cancer a couple of years ago, it was a help to rail against it all with my friends here.
It coincided with the firing of Paul DePodesta which didn't help matters.
Doting Grandfather is the best medicine.
But I was shocked peaking into Baseball Prospective 2008, because of some of the horrible inconsistancies. I admit I checked more Dodger players, but I looked at many opposing players in our division, and the players in the local(to me) Yanks-Sox rivalry. I generally regard the guys at the BP site as gods of knowledge.
But this book is a horror show. Typos ,bizarre projections, and contradictions.
Look at Brad Penny. The 2008 projection predicts about the worst collapse in baseball this year.
Directly under this, a paragraph seems to imply that Penny will do fine as the Dodger ace this year.
But there were many other places I coudn't figure out their intent.
(Mariano Duncan, are you taking notes?)
Anyway, their stat projections are done by a computer. The text is written by actual human beings. The human beings are not required to always be in agreement with the computer. There's nothing necessarily contradictory about it.
Different writers make up BP2008. The same person who wrote the Dodger section probably did not write the section about the the projected collapse or it was simply based on Pecota an algorithm showing that Penny was likely to collapse based on his peripherals.
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I'm more excited about baseball season than I've been in a while. I expect big things from our Dodgers, even in a very tough division. I'm liable, however, to shift at least some of my rooting interest to the Cubs. My dad would appreciate that, plus this is year 100.
What? What's that?
BRANDON Inge?
Oh, that's completely different.
Never mind.
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"I gotta get somewhere in this world. I just gotta." - Brandon Inge*
(*er, William Holden's Hal Carter)
Arizona Diamondbacks 87.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 86.5
San Diego Padres 84.5
Colorado Rockies 83
San Francisco Giants 73
Chicago Cubs 87
Milwaukee Brewers 84.5
Cincinnati Reds 77.5
St Louis Cardinals 76
Houston Astros 75
New York Mets 93.5
Philadelphia Phillies 87.5
Atlanta Braves 85
Washington Nationals 72.5
Pittsburgh Pirates 70
Florida Marlins 69
Los Angeles Angels 92
Seattle Mariners 85
Texas Rangers 76
Oakland Athletics 73.5
Detroit Tigers 93.5
Cleveland Indians 90
Chicago White Sox 79.5
Minnesota Twins 75
Kansas City Royals 73.5
Boston Red Sox 94
New York Yankees 93.5
Toronto Blue Jays 85.5
Tampa Bay Rays 75
Baltimore Orioles 64.5
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according to reports or other information
it also defined as being according to rumor or unconfirmed reports.
But they just bring up a window of what you are already looking at.
It's both annoying AND ineffective.
You have put your finger on something fun, though: which team will win the Battle of the Bay Area? The A's are stripped down, but not historically awful, if I recall correctly... but they play in the American League. The Giants have a historically awful offense, but their pitching should be OK, and they play in the somewhat weaker National League.
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I sincerely admire you Rob, I saw you 2 years ago at the DT get together & saw you this year & you did lose plenty of weight, says a lot about your determination & love of life. Not that you didn't look good 2 years ago BUT if there's family history of cancer you had to do something about it.
Oh, and if the A's are reading this, they may feel free to use the advertising slogan "Not Historically Awful!" -- provided that each use includes, in small letters, (c) 2008 Humma Kavula.
I'd like to stroll over there & sport my BlueTooth™
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He sort of does, though indirectly. "...Andy LaRoche, who is 24 and awfully young to be written off." Gurnick is probably the only person in the world to whom the idea of writing off LaRoche has even occurred. Even his doubters have conceded that he could at least be traded for something really valuable.
I think that's as close to an honest compliment of LaRoche as Gurnick is willing to give.
Stan from Tacoma
And my sympathies go out to Davey Lopes, although ... I can't resist this ... when I went to my first Dodger game when I was nine, he turned me down for an autograph. I swore vengeance, but booing is all I had in mind. I hope he's well soon.
And what test would an umpire use at the mound to determine whether a pitcher is wearing a cup? :-)
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>> The last time Derek Lowe entered the final year of a contract, things didn't exactly turn out the way he wanted.
Sure, Lowe helped the Boston Red Sox to the world championship in 2004 and pitched the clinching game in the World Series. But almost everything else was a disappointment.
The 34-year-old is convinced he won't make the same mistakes this time around with Los Angeles. <<
http://tinyurl.com/2jrhjj
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4380374&page=1
While it is all very hard, of course, there is something to be said for having the chance to say goodbye, as opposed to a sudden, unexpected departure. We had very special times in their last months. Just something to think about. Enjoy the time you have left.
Maybe I'll see you in Vero - I'm leaving on Saturday.
70 - more diabetes than cancer, the former becoming a real and proximate threat. Having watched my mother need to shoot up daily with insulin, and having an absolute detestation for needles -- well, that settled it. My doctor had been steadily doubling my blood sugar control medicine dose every six months or so, and the handwriting was on the wall. (The medical jockeys are monkeying around with insulin these days -- apparently most of it is now synthesized rather than coming from pig pancreases, as it used to, so there are fewer side effects, but when they do occur, they are rather worse. Or maybe that's just Mom.)
My wife and I both ran in a 5k two weekends ago, and we're training to start running 10k's. Dunno if we'll ever get up to marathon length, but I doubt it.
>> But if Young does become an option at second and third, the Dodgers still will need a backup shortstop - and that is where Garciaparra could come in. If Furcal were to suffer an injury, the club probably would bring up Chin-lung Hu, who also made a couple of jaw-dropping plays against the Mets. But Garciaparra could give Torre a viable option for a late-inning double switch. <<
http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/ci_8423400
The Seattle Mariners play in what kind of stadium?
I realize Seattle (where I currently reside) might as well be in Alaska but Will Carrol could not answer that question correctly.
And if I don't make my annual B Prospectus purcase which is the best paper version for this kind of preview. THT?
This diagnosis is one reason I haven't posted here much lately. As I always feared would happen if I seriously changed my diet, I have become extremely boring. I'm constantly thinking about making the right choices food-wise, and wondering about how an intelligent person can live in denial for so long about what my habits were doing to me. I don't miss all the crap; I just find it hard to believe I ever wanted it.
I assume eventually, this new regime will become second nature, and the Dodgers will retake their customary place at or near the center of my life.
P.S. Brandon Inge? Are you kidding? This is Detroit management trying to create momentum out of nothing. Nobody wants to pay a guy like that for three years to hit .240. Not even Ned.
101 B-R agrees.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SEA/2007.shtml
Good for you. I do mention that I was at one time on phentermine, which is helpful when you're trying to lose the weight; the main thing it assists you in doing is to gauge when you really are hungry. I think of it as retraining your stomach to be full on less food. I went off the drug a number of months ago, and while I've gained back a little of the weight I had lost (I got down to 171 from 230, but I'm hovering around 177-179 these days), it's still pretty much sticking nearer the bottom end of that scale.
In the Cortez-burning-his-ships-to-motivate-his-crew department, I gave away all my old wardrobe to Goodwill, including some intermediate clothes I bought along the way. Another motivation: I hate shopping, especially clothes shopping.
Manager likes what he sees so far from leadoff spot candidate
"I took notice of him for the first time when he helped beat me in the '03 World Series," said Dodgers manager Joe Torre
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If JP still had his 2003 game (.361 OBP, 55 BB), that would be one thing, but he doesn't.
Will Carrol was convinced Safeco was climate controlled because of the consistent temperatures in August. As someone who experiences windchill night games in April at Safeco I could only wish for climate control.
hahahahahahah!
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/SPORTS02/803030363/1050
>> Pitching is crucial to the Dodgers in their division. The Dodgers were above .500 last season but finished fourth in the NL West. The five NL West teams all finished in the top half of the league in pitching. But Dodgers starting pitchers were 58-61, the only one of the four above-.500 NL West teams whose starters had a losing record. <<
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Torre admits he's intrigued by hard-throwing lefty Hong-Chih Kuo, who's had four elbow operations. "That's pretty impressive the stuff he brings to the plate," Torre said of Kuo's 95-mph fastball and sharp slider.
Tomko/Hendrickson: 7-17 in 30 starts
Injury impacted Schmidt, K/Guo, Loaiza: 3-12 in 17 starts
Others: 48-36
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Wait... Isn't this the feedback page?
This seems to be the right thread to divulge this. I'm down about 50 lbs from a little more than a year ago. I'm trying to drop another 45 by the end of June (I'm best man in a wedding) to get below 300. It seems daunting, but if I stick to eating right (frantically counting calories, fat & sugar) and going to the gym (4+ times per week), I should be able to drop the extra weight.
I have also experienced the epiphany of "how did I ever eat this stuff" -- outside the occasional craving for pizza. All it takes is a little effort to plan out the meals -- the laziness of poor planning leads to the laziness of fast food -- to keep ahead of the game.
I was scheduled to walk/jog a 5k last Sunday, but I couldn't make it since I was out of town, so I did the 5k at the gym instead. I'm also scheduled to jog the Carlsbad 5k in April.
I lost a few pounds over the winter by going to a high protein low carb diet, plus more exercise, and ironically, right after that my poor cat was diagnosed with diabetes (which, alas, was more my fault than his), and was told the best way out of it, besides insulin shots, is to put him on a, yes, high protein, low carb diet. Or as someone has dubbed it, the "Catkins Diet." We're in solidarity! Now I'm just trying to train him to go on walks with me so we can both exercise together. Yeah, that'll happen.
Contrary to a published report, the Dodgers don't appear to be interested in Brandon Inge of the Detroit Tigers, in part because of the $19.1 million he is owed over the next three seasons.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-dodrep4mar04,1,736179.story
Eric S, extremley impressive. Keep up the good work. You are so right that the key to a good diet is planning and, at least in the begining, writing down everything you eat. Have you done it on your own, followed a plan or worked with a trainer? Curious how you've done it.
I first started with a trainer, a year ago at 24 Hour Fitness. I had 10 hours that came with my membership, and I used those hours to get me pointed in the right direction. I have no desire to spend $50/hr+ to continue.
I started tracking the food just recently myself, using an Excel file I created (and calorie-counter.com).
Okay, so I was watching TV Land because one of my favorite (very) old episodes of MASH is on - the "Ah, Bach! Radar is fixed up" one - when an ad for that truly atrocious-looking new reality series, "High School Reunion," popped on. I didn't realize it wasn't just an ad but an epic sneak preview. I finally recovered my senses long enough to mute it, but not before getting this icky feeling that makes me want to take a shower and read Thomas Pynchon. All I can say is, ick. Shame on you TVLand!
But I did see the next to last episode of The Wire finally, and now I'm caught up with both Bob and my dad and we all have to wait 'til next Sunday. Hah!
I'm just glad we're not being linked with any Joe Crede rumors; I can only imagine the puns associated with that depressing thought.
Btw, "Paul giving Torre something to ponder":
http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_8443778
https://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/913313.html#170
I averaged out the OPS+ for each season (I didn't use Mauer & McCann, since they're still young themselves) by age. This is just a quick and dirty look (with the caveat that some catchers didn't play until age 24, 25, or 26).
Age 23 - 94 OPS+ average
Age 24 - 100 OPS+
Age 25 - 104 OPS+
Age 26 - 106 OPS+
Age 27 - 96 OPS+
Age 28 - 96 OPS+
Age 29 - 94 OPS+
The average number of games played from age 30 onward is 477 (excluding Pierzynski, who turned 30 last year). Only one player (Mark Bailey) was done by age 28. One more (Garagiola) was done by 29. Seven more played fewer than 100 games in their 30s.
Martin's pre FA years will take him through his age 29 season. He has already achieved a 101 & 113 OPS+, ahead of the average (by about 10%) for his age in this group. I don't think his risk is high enough to want to sign a long-term deal now. The cliff he might fall off is still a long way off.
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On another, non-baseball, board I spent a paragraph defending USS Mariner as I addressed a casual M's fan who perceived their attitude as "negative."
USS Mariner isn't being "negative" so much as they are being honest. The M's haven't made the best long term decisions lately.
Later I made this comment about DT to add perspective. Do you guys agree with most of this?
One might consider the Dodgers board, Dodger Thoughts, similarly negative, but when good moves are made, we all commend them. In fact, right now, the board at large is more optimistic than its ever been, and its because many of our pieces are in place, and there's probably less dead weight in the lineup this year.
It's especially important in the West, where opposing left-handed hitters include San Diego's Adrian Gonzalez and Jim Edmonds, Colorado's Todd Helton and Brad Hawpe, and Arizona's Chad Tracy."
The 2004 World Champion Red Sox had exactly one start by a LHP, Abe Alvarez. The 2006 Cardinals had 19 (Mulder (who was awful) 17, Narvenson, Rincon).
Edmonds who's been in serious decline the last two seasons? Chad Tracy with the bum knee? Doesn't every division have four to five decent LH hitters? How about that AL Central?
McCourt and the Times have a terrible relationship - according to a friend, Frank told the sports section staff something like "I'll be around longer than any of you will" as their disastrous first meeting began to go sour.
I think that's a big reason behind the morose hand-wringing that permeates every Plaschke Dodger column.
That is completely different on DT ...when people post here about the Dodgers and they have differing opinions about baseball talent evaluation and how its done, it stays civil (95% of the time) and you are not made to feel like you are being belittled and I think that comes from the respect everyone who frequents DT has for Jon.
I also think that it helps that Ned hasn't traded 1/2 the farm like everyone was worried about and that we actually have a farm system that is so valued and productive.
136 Okay, here are the platoon breakdowns for the players mentioned above.
Adrian Gonzalez - .796 OPS LHP/.873 OPS RHP
Jim Edmonds - .632/.755
Brad Hawpe - .680/1.003
Todd Helton - .744/1.005
Chad Tracy - .413/.891
Here are the platoon breakdowns for the top 3 Dodger starters:
Chad Billingsley - .748 LHB/.660 RHB
Derek Lowe - .722/.663
Brad Penny - .605/.753 (Only 1 HR to LH)
And here are the platoon differences for the 3 LH players figuring to get the most plate appearances for the Dodgers.
Juan Pierre - .620/.710
Andre Ethier - .715/.830
James Loney - .866/.939
What about the Dodgers' RH batters:
Andruw Jones - .784/.694
Rafael Furcal - .744/.666
Jeff Kent - .950/.856
Matt Kemp - 1.002/.835
Russell Martin - 1.063/.773
Overall team batting splits (NL average .772 LH/.750RH):
Colorado - .772/.822
San Diego .769/.718
Los Angeles .751/.739
Arizona .722/.738
San Francisco .701/.711
So to me, despite Colorado's splits, that given the choice of 5 good righthanded starters and 4 good righthanders and one mediocre lefty, I'll take the 5 good righties. But I would have 1 or 2 lefties in the pen for a key situation.
(1) A's have at least inquired about Juan Pierre.
(2) Inge not coming to town. LaRoche can breath a bit easier, as can we! ha
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And Stolenmonkey -- many many Nats fans are finding that. Opening Day sold out in about 15 minutes. Much blamed heaped upon the brokers (without any real evidence, but it does seem reasonable). Just read that upper deck seats are on stub hub for $135.
(sheepishly acknowledges that I have an OD ticket through a ST holding friend.)
http://tinyurl.com/34s8rh
vr, Xei
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