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Overnight Dodger Open Chat
2008-03-11 22:42
by Jon Weisman

Because I can't have an American Idol post on top of the site ...

Comments (196)
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2008-03-11 22:49:39
1.   LogikReader
I'm sorry Jon, but while I'm glad for you, I cannot get the same enjoyment of American Idol that you do.

I trust it's a decent show, but maybe it's just not my style. I know all my friends and family love it!

For me, I'm more excited about the return of CBS Monday!

-- and the Office

2008-03-11 22:53:00
2.   LogikReader
Going back to Dodger talk for a moment.

It was really fascinating compiling a top 30 outfielders list for fantasy baseball today. What I noticed, above all else, is that a lot of the top outfielders hit their stride between the ages of 26-28.

Matt Kemp isn't even 24 yet and I get the impression he could end up with some big numbers this year.

2008-03-11 22:54:49
3.   Eric Stephen
The Lakers hopefully can use their two off days to find some defense before Friday. I agree Chris Paul will have a field day, but I think the Lakers' 2nd unit has a sizable advantage over the Hornets.

I need to get into the "Old Christine" club. I haven't had time for that show yet. I already watch the other 3 Monday CBS shows, so what the hell. I'm adding it for Monday.

2008-03-11 22:55:09
4.   KG16
Hockey in Yankee Stadium? They're actually talking about it.

I'm not really sure if that's the way Yankee Stadium should go out.

2008-03-11 22:56:56
5.   LogikReader
Eric, you won't be disappointed. "Old Christine" is a great show with a terrific ensemble and surprisingly good chemistry.

I've missed the last three episodes though!

2008-03-11 22:58:00
6.   KG16
3 - The Laker defense has been spotted running on a treadmill... his name is Andrew Bynum
2008-03-11 22:59:25
7.   Eric Stephen
More TV stuff (sorry, Xei):

-There are new episodes of Good Eats! I believe on Mondays.
-Top Chef starts again this week

I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

2008-03-11 23:00:07
8.   Eric Stephen
And Trevor Ariza! Any word on his "boot"?
2008-03-11 23:04:26
9.   KG16
8 - Phil Jackson says Ariza is almost out of the boot, for what it's worth
2008-03-11 23:07:58
10.   trainwreck
Thanks for the heads up on Top Chef. I thought it was coming back soon. Woo hoo! More Padma.
2008-03-11 23:08:25
11.   LAT
Wow, LAT'ed myself, not one, but two NPUTs later. Now that's talent.

356. Agreed. He gets on my nerves. I'm not much of a fan of that show. How many diners and greasy spoons can you watch him eat some discusting meal in and listen to him quell about how great it is.

I really enjoy Alton Brown's shows but I bought his cookbook and it was not for me. Its more science textbook than cookbook. For good easy cooking I still like Ina best of all. I know she's passe but her recipes are easy and hold up really well.

2008-03-11 23:11:33
12.   LAT
Random thought: I spoke to three insurance clients today who all giddy over Gov. Spitzers troubles.
2008-03-11 23:15:48
13.   LAT
So is it better to look good for too many years and crash later or grow old gracefully? There is a picture of Fran Drescher in today's paper and she looks as good as 20 years ago. She has to go the way of Cher and Diane Canon. Scary ending.
2008-03-11 23:21:33
14.   LAT
I'll hit for the cheap cycle here (short porch in RF). Those may be three of the most random unrealted thoughts I've ever had.
2008-03-11 23:22:46
15.   El Lay Dave
13 I'm trying to grow old gracefully without ever looking good. Set realistic goals.
2008-03-11 23:24:27
16.   El Lay Dave
12 Is it possible to be paying for $5000/hr hookers and to be thinking that it will never come out?
2008-03-11 23:25:43
17.   El Lay Dave
14 I resisted the temptation last night and let a 54 minute window for a cheap cycle pass.
2008-03-11 23:26:25
18.   El Lay Dave
16 Arrogance or begging for the fall, those are the only explanations I can think of.

Back to back cheap cycles?

2008-03-11 23:35:27
19.   Eric Stephen
2008-03-11 23:35:31
20.   Eric Stephen
2008-03-11 23:35:38
21.   Eric Stephen
2008-03-11 23:35:44
22.   Eric Stephen
2008-03-11 23:37:21
23.   Eric Stephen
Fran Drescher got her timeless looks by stealing the essence of Victoria Jackson when they co-starred in the Oscar worthy "UHF".
2008-03-11 23:37:30
24.   KG16
It sure is quiet around here.
2008-03-11 23:37:51
25.   Eric Stephen
I would think part of the $5,000 price tag is expected to pay for discretion.
2008-03-11 23:41:14
26.   El Lay Dave
25 Does that ever works in the long run? I guess if it does, we don't know that it does.
2008-03-11 23:41:29
27.   LAT
The old saying: With a hooker your not paying for the sex. Your paying for her to go away afterward.

Apparently, Elliot's hooker didn't get the memo.

2008-03-11 23:41:59
28.   Bob Timmermann
Did you folks know that Dodger Stadium technically isn't in the geological feature known as Chavez Ravine?
2008-03-11 23:43:03
29.   LAT
19-22. That cheap cycle is the lock low. Can't be beat.
2008-03-11 23:43:31
30.   Eric Enders
None of the PECOTA guesses at the end of the last thread were correct.
2008-03-11 23:45:41
31.   Xeifrank
Friends of DT Fantasy Baseball league 5x5 roto still has a few openings. Here is the info to join. vr, Xei

League ID#: 138391
League Name: Friends of DT Roto
Password: minotaur
Custom League URL:
Season Type: Full
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Fri Mar 14 7:00pm PDT
Max Teams: 14
Scoring Type: Rotisserie

2008-03-12 02:22:14
32.   LAT
Spitzer had less chance of being cought with a $50 streetwalker. "Doesn't he watch Hookers an the Point?"
2008-03-12 06:45:20
33.   Jon Weisman
28 - You're burying that information at 11:41 p.m.?
2008-03-12 06:58:51
34.   Bob Timmermann
Hit and run posting.
2008-03-12 08:06:58
35.   Xeifrank
and we had to open up another Friends of DT Head to Head yahoo fantasy league. A couple more openings. Here is the draft info.

League ID#: 138325
League Name: H2H
Password: monkey
Season Type: Full
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sat Mar 22 7:30pm PDT
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head

2008-03-12 08:23:21
36.   Jon Weisman
Kevin Love for Player of the Year:

2008-03-12 08:25:19
37.   madmac
Here is one way approach the upcomming NCAA tournament.

This hits close to home as that place is located where I grew up and two weeks ago I had the procedure done. OUCH!

2008-03-12 08:37:54
38.   Bob Timmermann
Jon is going to list everyone who has had that procedure done on the sidebar.
2008-03-12 08:41:38
39.   worz
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know if any of the local LA stations will be carrying the exhibition games from Beijing this weekend? Or is MLB.TV the only option?
2008-03-12 08:51:26
40.   Bob Timmermann
KCAL will go many places.

But not to China.

2008-03-12 08:54:59
41.   worz
40 I believe that one of the local San Diego stations will be carrying the games. The commentary will be done in studio as they watch the feed from China. Too bad we can't get the same kind of thing here.
2008-03-12 09:02:23
42.   Eric Stephen
Channel 4 San Diego, a local channel and home of the Padres, will carry the games indeed. I heard analyst Mark Grant say they were working on "production value" for the broadcast, and that they might have a vendor or two behind them to create game atmosphere. Also, a ticker tape was mentioned probably as some sort of homage to "The Sting".
2008-03-12 09:02:31
43.   Bob Timmermann
That was how ESPN covered the WBC games from Tokyo. It's also how most soccer matches are broadcast.
2008-03-12 09:04:26
44.   Bob Timmermann
All Mark Grant ever talks about is food though. Does he even watch what's going on down on the field?
2008-03-12 09:12:01
45.   Eric Stephen
Grant does a pretty good job explaining pitches, and I generally like him as an announcer. He has a pretty good sense of humor.

I am biased though since I've been a Mark Grant fan since the early 1990s when he was on one of those MLB blooper videos doing an impression of various umpires. That was hilarious.

2008-03-12 09:13:37
46.   Eric Stephen
Here is the link to Grant's umpire impressions:

2008-03-12 09:23:21
47.   Eric Stephen
Didn't ESPN catch some heat for not having announcers present at the World Cup? Or was most of the criticism that Dan O'Brien was not cut out for soccer?

As far as not being present for the broadcast, if it's good enough for Andres Cantor, it's good enough for me!

2008-03-12 09:24:21
48.   Eric Stephen
Xei, does one need to be present to draft?
2008-03-12 09:25:18
49.   Eric Stephen
There are a lot of Wes Parker's going on in his thread. 45-48 were legit, erasing the taint of 19 -22.
2008-03-12 09:31:46
50.   madmac
38 and we could probably birth a new rule out of this somehow. "Thank you for not...telling us how bad your junk is hurting"

I had knee surgery two days before the procedure and that didn't bother me nearly as much at the snip snip. Now I know why frozen peas exist.

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2008-03-12 09:32:18
51.   Xeifrank
48. No, you don't need to be present. You can pre-rank your players, which is what I may end up doing. Just try to stay active during the season. vr, Xei
2008-03-12 09:35:07
52.   Bob Timmermann
Dave O'Brien and Eric Wynalda, both of whom have been dropped by ESPN for soccer, were on site. Their other pairs of announcers just called the games off of a monitor in Bristol. Dave O'Brien was not very good at calling soccer.

Soccer fans are quite used to that sort of broadcast.

2008-03-12 09:35:41
53.   Eric Stephen
Hu? From Diamond Leung:

"Tony Abreu left camp for Philadelphia, where he will be examined by the doctor who performed surgery on his torn abdominal muscle in the offseason."

2008-03-12 09:37:09
54.   Daniel Zappala
11 Thank you for the pointer to Ina cookbooks --- I'll be checking them out at the library soon.
2008-03-12 09:37:17
55.   Eric Stephen
I had 1992 Reebok commercials dancing in my head -- hence the Dan O'Brien reference. Actually, I think Mike Sweeney played a role too.
2008-03-12 09:40:07
56.   fanerman
50 Rule 14?
2008-03-12 09:45:11
57.   cargill06
pierre hitting lead-off again today, how many times will he reach on error today?
2008-03-12 10:00:00
58.   cargill06
the dreaded labrum tear was diagnosed for casey jassen today.
2008-03-12 10:02:11
59.   cargill06
58 he was shut down after warming up and making a few tossed in a simulated game. it would've been nice if schmidt would've been honest about his injury like janssen was with his. he'd probably be ready to go.
2008-03-12 10:09:44
60.   BlueCrew Bruin
46 John McSherry...wasn't he the one who passed away during a game?
2008-03-12 10:12:57
61.   Jim Hitchcock
Hmmm. I just took care of a customer named Charlie Musselwhite, who is not related to but knows the blues singer by the same name. Weird.
2008-03-12 10:13:46
62.   gpellamjr
60 Yes.
2008-03-12 10:17:37
63.   berkowit28
Mythic scheduling. Diamond Leung: "Clayton Kershaw will pitch again tomorrow and is expected to be stretched out to two innings, as he will follow Hiroki Kuroda."
2008-03-12 10:24:53
64.   Eric Stephen
60 ,62
If I remember correctly, Sports Illustrated ran a photo of a collapsed McSherry in their subsequent issue that seemed in poor taste.
2008-03-12 10:27:32
65.   kngoworld

Here are my photos from this last weekend in Florida. I have pictures from the March 7th through 9th games. Included are some great shots of Kershaw (#96). From Fridays game we had seats 3 rows behind dodger dugout, right behind the water coolers, got some great shots of players getting a drink.

2008-03-12 10:29:23
66.   Eric Stephen
McSherry's death was on opening day (1996), no less! I forgot about that.

Pete Schourek of the Reds was pitching to Montreal's Rondell White. Eddie Taubensee was the catcher. More details here:

2008-03-12 10:39:07
67.   Jon Weisman
65 - Nice. You're a regular Jon Soo hoo. Looking forward to taking a longer look.

In the first inning today, Pierre and Furcal combined for two walks, three steals and two runs, not to mention an opposing passed ball.

2008-03-12 10:46:51
68.   madmac
67 TJ must really be enjoying the game.
2008-03-12 10:47:23
69.   ToyCannon
Speed kills when it gets on base.
2008-03-12 10:51:36
70.   ToyCannon
Great shots, how did all those old RedSox Nation fans survive without helmets?
2008-03-12 10:52:48
71.   gpellamjr
67 and 69 Ah, but Ethier got the RBI, and that's what really counts.
2008-03-12 10:59:03
72.   twerp
Don't think this has been posted; maybe of interest:

2008-03-12 10:59:28
73.   ToyCannon
Unless Keith Law is doing the counting, and then it doesn't mean jack.
2008-03-12 11:05:28
74.   Sam DC
It's fun having Manny Acta in town:

Anonymous: Have you talked to Manny about his approach to the game regarding strategy? He seems to have imbibed the anti-bunt/steal philosophy of the sabermetric gurus. (That's a good thing, by the way.)

Barry Svrluga: Yes, have talked much to him about this, and last week he lent me a copy of the book "Mind Games" by the Baseball Prospectus staff on the 2004 Red Sox. It's a fascinating combination of stats-stuff and anecdotes, and he loves it. He simply will not bunt in early innings, and he wants guys to have a 70 percent success rate on steals in order to keep the "green light." He also does not believe that any team has ever won a game because its manager got ejected, etc.

2008-03-12 11:06:47
75.   cargill06
pierre 2 walks?!?!?!?!?!?
2008-03-12 11:07:20
76.   Jon Weisman
Michael O'Connor, you have just walked Juan Pierre twice in a row.
2008-03-12 11:07:36
77.   fanerman
I think from now on, anytime I see the name "Manny Acta" (or the guy on TV), I will think of:

"Manny Acta is actually M.A.N. eACTA, the black-ops code-name for the Mechanized Algorithmic Numerical (internet-ready) Actionable Computation Techno-Automaton. When his "contract" runs out with the Nats he is going to be launched into space. We are weaponizing space. Deal with it, China."

2008-03-12 11:10:23
78.   twerp
Today's box score looks like Bills may have struck out the side in the first? Top 3 in Nats order all have 1K. Anyone know?
2008-03-12 11:12:16
79.   Jon Weisman
Is it funny that "held up" and "upheld" have such different meanings?
2008-03-12 11:13:19
80.   jujibee
I just asked the outfield logjam question to Jim Callis that is so often discussed here. Here are his thoughts:

Jay (Lincoln, CA): Jim, what would you do if your Torre facing a logjam in the outfield. Jones has to play, but Kemp, Ethier, and Pierre need to fill the corners. Clearly, at least to me, Kemp and Ethier seem to field the best outfield, both defensively and offensively. I cannot understand why the Dodgers don't realize they overpayed for Pierre, deal with the loss and play the best outfield possible, while having a speedy bench guy who can fill in for 2 outfield positions. It almost seems like they are trying to talk up Pierre's value for a possible trade, or are rewarding him the position because of that ludicrous contract that he was offered and signed.

Jim Callis: (2:10 PM ET ) You may be right on both counts, Jay. Pierre would easily be the fourth outfielder for me. But Ned Colletti can't justify the bad contract or drum up trade interest if he rides the bench, which is what Pierre should be doing.

2008-03-12 11:14:13
81.   Eric Enders
How come none of the Dodger games are on the radio anymore? Did all 5 announcers go to China, or what?
2008-03-12 11:16:17
82.   Bluebleeder87
65 looking forward to watching them at home
2008-03-12 11:17:13
83.   Jon Weisman
81 - In recent years, KFWB would tape-delay weekday Spring Training games. The days of live weekday Spring Training broadcasts have long past. I thought KABC might bring them back, but I guess that was too optimistic.
2008-03-12 11:17:31
84.   Eric Stephen
Am I missing a joke, or was that just general Keith Law bashing?
2008-03-12 11:21:02
85.   Eric Enders
83 Well, except they had them live all last week. At least they did on
2008-03-12 11:21:38
86.   Jon Weisman
85 - Did they? Then I have no answer.
2008-03-12 11:23:03
87.   cargill06
78 no he didn't
2008-03-12 11:23:23
88.   Eric Stephen
It is pretty annoying that the game -- even if it is spring training -- isn't being broadcast by anyone in any fashion.

I just got an email that my subscription to MLB Audio was auto-renewed, and yet I have no Dodger game to enjoy via audio today. (Still, $14.95 for the year is a great deal)

2008-03-12 11:26:24
89.   ToyCannon
Not really Keith Law bashing. I like the guy(he does like Alton Brown) but he has made the point many times that RBI's are meaningless which means he would have been equally unimpressed with Andre's RBI as he would have been with Pierre scoring the run.
2008-03-12 11:28:01
90.   berkowit28
The "live" boxscore has been stuck for 20 minutes or so. But there's nowhere else for updates at the moment, right? No one live-blogging on ItD today, for example.
2008-03-12 11:28:08
91.   madmac
87 really cargill, I don't understand what you have against Bills ;)
2008-03-12 11:28:22
92.   berkowit28
The "live" boxscore has been stuck for 20 minutes or so. But there's nowhere else for updates at the moment, right? No one live-blogging on ItD today, for example.
2008-03-12 11:30:52
93.   Bob Timmermann
I guess my brother gets to get out of Atlantic City early as St. Louis lost its opening round game of the Atlantic-10 tournament.

The Atlantic-10 is like the Pacific-10 except it has more than 10 teams and a lot of them aren't on the Atlantic.

2008-03-12 11:30:58
94.   berkowit28
Ah, finally worked out how all those double-posts occur. Remove the Preview check, Submit once, get impatient, click it again. Success! ;-) Sorry.
2008-03-12 11:31:34
95.   Eric Enders
Okay, so I did some checking, and the first 12 consecutive Dodger spring games were available live on (KABC in almost every case). But now the last three in a row have been unavailable.
2008-03-12 11:32:06
96.   Eric Stephen
More Jim Callis chat questions regarding Dodgers:

Phil (Grand Rapids): Jim, what is your take on Chris Withrow. The handbook had him at a 88-91, but mentioned that he added velocity up to 95 or so during the summer. He has a big-time frame, and the Dodgers have quite a track record with high-school arms. Are we looking at a potential stud here?

SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:26 PM ET ) Yes. I don't think he'll be a Kershaw-type stud, but Logan White of the Dodgers may be the game's best judge of pitching talent. Withrow added velocity throughout 2007 and it wouldn't surprise me if he winds up with a consistent plus fastball and curveball.

Mike (Albany, NY): Hey Jim! Did you see the Mr. Snappy curveball Clay Kershaw threw to Sean Casey over the weekend? I mean poor Sean almost gave up baseball after that! Should the Dodgers plug Clay into the rotation to start the year?

SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:26 PM ET ) I'd let Kershaw pitch for at least a month or two in Double-A. But if he continues to look this spectacular, I'd have no qualms about bringing him up in June.

2008-03-12 11:32:42
97.   underdog
Uh oh, looks like Bills kind of lost it toward the end, and then bringing in Greg Jones didn't help. Guess having runs off zero hits can only take you so far.
2008-03-12 11:34:23
98.   ToyCannon
I think a podcast from some DT folks would make for an entertaining way to listen to a game at some point this year.
Jon - Play by Play
Eric Enders - Color
Bob Timmermann - historical anecdotes
Josh Wilker - Sideline Reporting using baseball cards as his foils.
BHSPORTSGUY-Glass Half Full Reporting
D4P - Glass Half Empty Reporting
Eric Stephan - San Diego Point of View
Icaros - San Francisco Point of View
Andrew Shimmin - Arizona Point of View and soapbox
LAT and KG## - Can address the legal issues
2008-03-12 11:37:25
99.   berkowit28
Even more interesting now that the box score has unstuck. It shows each team got one run in the 4th inning, so should read Dodgers 3-1. instead it says Nats 3-2. Interesting... But the details show latter is correct. Bills allowed 2 runs, Jones, G. 1 more, new pitcher Johnson in. Lower order Nats batters got hits, Guzman batted in 2 of the runs.
2008-03-12 11:38:34
100.   dzzrtRatt
83 The world apparently cannot survive for a day without les pensees of Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity. How would we know how to think?
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2008-03-12 11:39:05
101.   Jon Weisman
98 - But where are you in the mix?
2008-03-12 11:39:15
102.   Gen3Blue
Super box is boinked.
2008-03-12 11:39:57
103.   Eric Enders
Toy would be the sideline reporter giving us human interest stories.
2008-03-12 11:41:07
104.   Bob Timmermann
Rick Monday in China:
"When you're talking about walls in the world, you have to start with the Great Wall here in China-ah. It's a wall that's just great."

"Looking at dictators in the world, Mao Zedong, is a standout in the field."

2008-03-12 11:42:24
105.   underdog
Can I be the guy who gives scores of other games and makes bad puns about players names?
2008-03-12 11:42:34
106.   Eric Enders
Except Rick would have pronounced it Tao My Dung.
2008-03-12 11:43:19
107.   Humma Kavula
72 From the link:

"Next Chapter

We'll examine the ten worst second-slot hitters since 1957."

I am popping some popcorn and rubbing my hands together gleefully for that one.

2008-03-12 11:44:20
108.   madmac
Cargill and Kevin Lewis - as it relates to softball
2008-03-12 11:44:29
109.   cargill06
91 it's so complex even i don't understand it.
2008-03-12 11:44:36
110.   Jon Weisman
104 - "And here's the Cultural Revolution and it's immediately followed by reforms."
2008-03-12 11:46:25
111.   Bob Timmermann
Charlie Steiner in China:

"Sinking liner to right ... and Kemp makes a Great Leap Forward to catch it!"

2008-03-12 11:46:25
112.   cargill06
where's ken now when you need him to comment on michael o'conner's performance today.
2008-03-12 11:48:09
113.   Eric Stephen
If Rick Monday was an auctioneer, would anyone know the price they bid?
2008-03-12 11:50:32
114.   cargill06
it was brought up yesterday how historically bad the giants line-up maybe this year, anyone know that the least amount of runs scored in a 162 game season is since 1980?
2008-03-12 11:50:46
115.   Eric Stephen
The DT broadcast booth is beginning to resemble the Dodger Stadium booth in Naked Gun.

I think Steve -- wherever he is -- will play the role of Dr. Joyce Brothers.

2008-03-12 11:50:57
116.   Marty
110 People in my workshop are wondering why I'm laughing.
2008-03-12 11:51:27
117.   cargill06
vegas has set the over/under of andruw jones hr's this year at 26.5
2008-03-12 11:56:18
118.   Eric Enders
114 329 by the 1981 Blue Jays in a strike-shortened season.

But it would be really hard for the Giants to fall short of the 574 runs scored by the 2003 Dodgers.

2008-03-12 11:56:23
119.   Eric Stephen
Going back to 1980 covers a lot of different offensive styles, so it's instructive to look in relative terms.

No one in the NL has had a lower OPS+ than the 1993 Marlins (80 OPS+). The scored 3.59 runs per game in a league that scored 4.49 runs/gm (and they were in a hitter's park then).

2008-03-12 11:58:06
120.   Eric Stephen
I'll take the over.
2008-03-12 11:59:55
121.   underdog
Now 6-2 Nats, as Jason Johnson reverts to expectation. The Dodgers are still being "interesting-ed" despite the 2 runs. I'm now not all that sorry it's not being covered on the radio.
2008-03-12 12:04:55
122.   Eric Enders
So I'm using this cheat sheet compiled by Rotowire to prepare for my fantasy baseball draft. It assigns a dollar value to each player. According to this, the worst player who has a chance of playing in MLB this year is Shea Hillenbrand with a value of negative 36 dollars.
2008-03-12 12:05:05
123.   Gen3Blue
Maybe they'll leave O'Connor in?
2008-03-12 12:05:19
124.   underdog
"This is Steiner in Chiner, and Joe Torre just made a Long March to the mound to remove Hong Chi Kuo from the game."
Monday: "I wonder if Kuo is disappointed in his native country's lack of support for the game of baseball."
Steiner: "Uh, he's from Taiwan, not China. That's kind of a sore subject."
Monday: "Speaking of sore subjects, that plane couldn't get here fast enough."
Steiner: "Hah hah, and that pop fly is... out of here!"
2008-03-12 12:07:35
125.   ToyCannon
I'd take the over and bet Bob's his two N's against my two E's.
2008-03-12 12:08:52
126.   berkowit28
The mlb Nats site has a better box score. (Dodgers' was still showing a rogue run in 4th inning until a few moments ago.) They show someone called Wade pitching for the Dodgers now - who's that? I guess the two coaches actually running the Dodgers at the moment to Torre's wishes (according to LA Times) aren't keyed to Tommy's "win now" mantra and are still trying out pitchers.
2008-03-12 12:10:28
127.   Eric Enders
I can't believe there hasn't been more indignation over the report that Kershaw will be pitching for Tommy.
2008-03-12 12:11:10
128.   Eric Stephen
You'd be delving into Reddd Foxxx territory there.
2008-03-12 12:12:03
129.   Eric Stephen
If it were a regular season game, I would be outraged, but Kershaw's only going to go 2 IP so it's probably not a big deal.
2008-03-12 12:12:20
130.   Jon Weisman
127 - By all indications, Tommy isn't deciding how long people pitch this week.
2008-03-12 12:15:51
131.   berkowit28
130 126 Kevin Baxter in the Times this morning:

"Serving a largely ceremonial stint while Joe Torre is in China, he is the first Hall of Fame manager to return to the dugout after retiring.... The position is largely ceremonial, though, because bench coach Bob Schaefer and third base coach Larry Bowa will be making most of the decisions, based on Torre's wishes. That's fine with Lasorda."

2008-03-12 12:15:55
132.   cargill06
3 walks for pierre, and 2 runs without something important to an offense.

today is a weird day, next thing i know i'm going to be a billingsley supporter.

2008-03-12 12:16:35
133.   bhsportsguy
At least I'm not the mouthpiece for Ned.

That would be fun.

BTW - KABC did not "broadcast" the games last week, but the feed must have gone through their transmitter and they added their ads for revenue. But if you listened to KABC, you would have gotten the regular programming.

I remember for years and years, Michael Jackson (not that Michael Jackson), used to dread March because his show got pre-empted for Dodger spring training games. There was an issue involving the Angels because Arte's station could not get pre-empt their regular programming for the Angel games, he did put all of their games (for free which I don't know how he does that) on the web.

2008-03-12 12:22:58
134.   GobiasIndustries
3 walks for pierre, and 2 runs without something important to an offense.

I'm with you on the 3 walks for Pierre. That's pretty self-explanatory.

What am I to extrapolate from the second part of your statement? It makes no sense to me.

2008-03-12 12:24:20
135.   Eric Stephen
The Padres have a RF promotion sort of similar to the Dodgers' all you can eat pavilion this season, except their seats are better.

There are a few sections of the Toyota Terrace Level (a club level, on the 1st base side) that will have $45 game tickets which include a $20 credit which can be used for concessions or merchandise (which seems pretty cool). The tickets are actually the same prices as last year, so that's a good deal.

2008-03-12 12:26:26
136.   cargill06

weird story, let's hope it's nothing serious.

2008-03-12 12:27:24
137.   Jon Weisman
Andre has just unleashed a four-base hit.
2008-03-12 12:27:55
138.   cargill06
134 ok now the ethier just homered i can tell you. i didn't want to violate the no-hitter in progress rule
2008-03-12 12:28:14
139.   Gen3Blue
Thats the way to end a rule 9 in style by our HR leader.
2008-03-12 12:28:47
140.   cargill06
137 jeez, and he has another assist today.
2008-03-12 12:28:48
141.   berkowit28
Ethier got a solo HR in the 7th off Bell.
2008-03-12 12:28:55
142.   Marty
Andre the Rally Killer
2008-03-12 12:31:08
143.   bhsportsguy
142 I'm heading down to watch the Pac-10 tommorrow, interested in some pastrami at Langers?
2008-03-12 12:31:33
144.   GobiasIndustries
Toyota Terrace Level?

They sold the naming rights to seating sections? Wow, and they still claim to not be able to afford A-1 free agents. That's pathetic. What's next? After you get out of your seat in the Toyota Terrace, do you go to the Burger King Bathroom and wash your hands at the Sony Sink, then look in the Magnavox Mirror before sitting back down?

2008-03-12 12:32:41
145.   Bob Timmermann
Anybody want a free ticket for the afternoon session tomorrow at Staples?

USC vs. ASU at noon and then UCLA vs UW/Cal afterwards.

All you have to do is come downtown to get it from me.

But it's just one seat.

2008-03-12 12:34:03
146.   GobiasIndustries
Gotcha. I have limited internet here at work and am not able to follow the goings on of the game. I had no idea a no hitter was going on. Your statement makes sense now.
2008-03-12 12:35:14
147.   Marty
143 I would love to, but I'm 2000 miles away.
2008-03-12 12:35:46
148.   Gen3Blue
Ethier's blow seems to have shocked super Box into a freeze.
2008-03-12 12:40:11
149.   cargill06
up to date ST stats
Ethier .273/.385/.545 1-1 SB/CS, 4 assists, 2.42 RF
Pierre .200/.282/.229 6-0 SB/CS, 1 assist, 2.29 RF
2008-03-12 12:41:09
150.   berkowit28
They ley Cory Wade pitch 2 innings. He didn't do too badly. But who is he? He's even on the 40-man roster at the moment.
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2008-03-12 12:42:13
151.   MC Safety
Coco Crisp possibly to the Mets for Angel Pagan. That seems like a steal, if Crisp can get back on track.
2008-03-12 12:43:33
152.   Sam DC
Those are two fine ballplayer names being traded back and forth.
2008-03-12 12:43:39
153.   arbfuldodger
63 best thing about Minotaur pitching tomorrow is that it will be on for those who have it
2008-03-12 12:44:01
154.   cargill06
anyone hear any new info about jason schmidt?
2008-03-12 12:46:25
155.   cargill06
From Gurnick's article.

Jeff Kent's strained right hamstring has healed well enough for him to play -- yet that doesn't mean he's about to take the field anytime soon.

2008-03-12 12:52:34
156.   Jon Weisman
155 - Anthony DiComo wrote that.
2008-03-12 12:54:16
157.   cargill06
156 my mistake.
2008-03-12 12:55:08
158.   ToyCannon
Tampa Bay showing some fight this spring. Brawl after Shelly Duncan sent a spike at Iwamura's crotch.

Bob I think I might be interested. I'll send an email. Okay if I root for ASU?

2008-03-12 12:56:23
159.   Bob Timmermann
You can root for whomever you want.

I can also leave the ticket with bhsportsguy and he meet you before the game. But he's sitting with the fancy people leaving me to sit in the upper deck with all the ham and eggers.

2008-03-12 12:58:04
160.   Bob Timmermann
I do know how to use auxiliary verbs.
2008-03-12 12:59:13
161.   ToyCannon
Never mind, just found out I can't make it.
2008-03-12 13:00:11
162.   silverwidow
Someone at ItD posted the projected bullpen. It looks accurate:

Park or Loaiza (one is the 5th starter)

2008-03-12 13:00:28
163.   Bob Timmermann
Aren't there any other people with flexible work schedules and/or unemployed?
2008-03-12 13:02:14
164.   underdog
150 Cory Wade was drafted in 2004 out of Kentucky Wesleyan. He pitched for both Inland Empire (7-0 2.45 era) and Jax (0-1, 1.36 era) last year. He's one of their more underrated pitching prospects, imho.

2008-03-12 13:03:15
165.   underdog
162 I just don't see Park making the team as a reliever. Maybe I'll be wrong but that just seems unlikely. Better chance Mike Myers makes the bullpen than Park.
2008-03-12 13:05:18
166.   silverwidow
165 Well, we need a long reliever more than 3 lefties (Beimel, Kuo, Myers). Myers stunk today regardless.
2008-03-12 13:05:20
167.   Marty
Tonight I'll be having pizza in downtown Chicago. Apparently, as any Chicagoan will tell you, Chicago pizza is the only true pizza in the world.
2008-03-12 13:08:22
168.   Jon Weisman
Jamie Hoffmann, ladies and gentleman. I think.

2008-03-12 13:08:37
169.   underdog
Er, yeah, I posted that before I saw what he did today. What I'd been hearing - before today - was that he had a decent shot of making the team. It depends on what happens with Kuo, too, of course. True, we'll need a long reliever - and if Jason Johnson doesn't cut it and they don't give Stults a shot, maybe it will be Park. Who knows?
2008-03-12 13:08:44
170.   Jon Weisman
And, that should be "gentlemen." And, I should mention that he hit a home run.
2008-03-12 13:08:49
171.   cargill06
can anyone help me out?

want to see how my hs teammate chris seddon a NRI of the Marlins is doing, he has pitched 1 shut-out inning about 10 days ago this spring. the marlins minor league affilates don't show him on any of their rosters, and i can't find anything showing if he was cut. would anyone know where i can look this up?

2008-03-12 13:09:59
172.   underdog
Dustin Hoffman also hit one out for the Dodgers, today, as they try to one-up the Yankees Billy Crystal stunt.

No, wait, Jamie Hoffmann. Never mind.

2008-03-12 13:10:37
173.   underdog
Damn, my fingers + server are both too slow today. Maybe that's a sign I should try to do actual work. Ciao!
2008-03-12 13:11:53
174.   cargill06
171 forget it figured it out.
2008-03-12 13:14:56
175.   twerp
Anyone know where to find a roster of who went to China or maybe Hu didn't? Sorry. :-)
2008-03-12 13:16:28
176.   ToyCannon
I've only had it once but a Chicago Pie is the best I've had.
2008-03-12 13:18:13
177.   Marty
Kent on Abreau's injury:

Abreu seems to be more hurt than I am," Kent said. "I've never seen this before. He's missing a grand opportunity to show his wares.

That sounds like Kent thinks he should suck it up and play.

2008-03-12 13:18:24
178.   cargill06
167 pizza duo's and due's best pizza i've ever tasted.
2008-03-12 13:19:18
179.   MC Safety
158 Heath Phillips beaned Longoria in the midsection too. That's pretty pathetic if he meant to.
2008-03-12 13:19:37
180.   Marty
176 I'm being a little facetious. I like Chicago-style pizza, particularly thin crust.
2008-03-12 13:20:24
181.   Marty
I believe we are going to Giordano's
2008-03-12 13:22:35
182.   Daniel Zappala
167 Yes, I've heard that, but it should also be the case that any Italian is exempted because I make great pizza.
2008-03-12 13:26:29
183.   underdog
I always liked Zachary's Chicago Pizza in the un-Chicago place called Oakland.

Off subject but, cool, a new DVD for Bonnie and Clyde is coming out end of this month. Finally! The previous edition was very bare bones.

2008-03-12 13:29:45
184.   Penarol1916
181. Giordano's is okay, but I'm going to say, after living in Chicago for 8 years, I'm thoroughly unimpressed with the pizza and the fact that noone can really state what Chicago-style pizza is. The only commonalities I've found among Chicago pizza's is that they are all cut "party-style" as opposed to in wedges, and I really prefer wedges.
2008-03-12 13:37:55
185.   overkill94
177 It also sounds like Kent is a medieval trinket salesman
2008-03-12 13:43:53
186.   madmac
Everyone knows the little frozen pizza bagels are the best.
2008-03-12 13:47:57
187.   cargill06
loney is being asked about kershaw on the radio...
2008-03-12 13:55:11
188.   silverwidow
187 What did he say?
2008-03-12 13:57:16
189.   cargill06
188 nothing special, just the standard managment needs to decide when he's ready, he's unbelivebaly talnted, he said zito has the best curve-ball he faced and kershaw's looks like it maybe just as good.

there was a whole other portion of the interview that i didn't hear.

2008-03-12 14:01:04
190.   underdog
Appropriately stunned headline atop Diamond Leung's latest posting: "Dodgers' Pierre actually walks"
2008-03-12 14:02:11
191.   MC Safety
Domenico's on 2nd street in Long Beach is the best pizza I've ever had. They put sliced mozzarella on the dough, then the sauce, then the toppings. The ground salami or ground pepperoni is the ticket. Me and Ed's is close though, I know Canuck can vouch for that.
2008-03-12 14:07:50
192.   LogikReader

Speaking of sliced Mozzarella, there's a pizza shop Downtown near Staples Center called "New York Pizza Next Door"

It's on 8th st just East of Figueroa St. They also use sliced mozzarella, and the pizza is delicious! It's also remarkably cheap, compared to other places [i.e. on the Westside]

2008-03-12 14:08:23
193.   Jon Weisman
2008-03-12 14:09:22
194.   fanerman
Andre must have thought "uh oh, Pierre took a walk, but I bet he can't hit a home run."
2008-03-12 14:11:00
195.   Jon Weisman
192 - You posted just in time.
2008-03-12 14:11:51
196.   ROC
Tip for anyone coming to AZ when the Dodgers reassemble for ST, Pizzeria Bianco in Phoenix is considered by many to be the best in the country. This especially seemed to bug folks in New York when the NYT recently supported that.

Seinfield liked it so much, he flew out the Bee Movie crew for a wrap party (and put the owner in the credits).

Although the 2-4 hour wait is discouraging, it is the best I've ever had.

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