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The Positivity Train
2008-04-24 17:12
by Jon Weisman

Wednesday's appeal to have fun during the game wasn't an attempt to turn this blog into the online version of Pleasantville. It was more to remind all of us, myself included, not to overreact to the bad stuff. Because there's always going to be bad stuff.

Anyway, we weren't particularly tested - the biggest lesson learned was that the Dodgers could in fact beat a big-name pitcher. Hopefully, we won't be tested for a while. But when that time comes, it's nice to keep some of the bitterness out, even if disappointment or dissatisfaction comes.

* * *

The Dodgers really seemed to hit the ball square Wednesday night. It'd be nice to have more power, but what really gets frustrating is when the team can't even muster more than a couple line drives. I feel like if you wait for good pitches and then hit the ball hard enough, eventually it will pay off, even if the hits stay in the park. Some days you can't find a hole, but solid contact sure increases your chances.

Another nice reprieve Wednesday was from allowing the four-run inning. In 21 games this season, the Dodgers have given up four runs in an inning seven times. Never more than four, but still, four's plenty.

* * *

Looking at this hitting chart, it appears that right fielders have made one play on Andruw Jones at Dodger Stadium this season. Just for comparison, Matt Kemp has a greater spread.

* * *

Diamondbacks at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

Comments (526)
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2008-04-24 17:13:56
1.   JJ42
It's just a game, right?
2008-04-24 17:19:25
2.   Reddog
At least Pierre is still on the bench.
2008-04-24 17:21:45
3.   PalmdaleSteve1
I'm positive....

Positive that the fans will boo Andruw Jones as he whiffs, misses and fans the balls going by at the plate.

Love to be wrong.

2008-04-24 17:22:30
4.   was it tims mitt i saw
Ethier's chart looks even more spread out
2008-04-24 17:22:38
5.   Marty
Pierre really is not playing much. Kemp and Either are. I'm happy.
2008-04-24 17:27:48
6.   StolenMonkey86
Frank Thomas is a better .159 hitter than Andruw Jones. But Andruw Jones is a better center fielder than Frank Thomas.
2008-04-24 17:29:24
7.   Bob Timmermann
Dan Haren is not a big name pitcher.
Jason Isringhausen is a big name pitcher.

People say I am often too literal. They literally regard me as a wet blanket.

2008-04-24 17:29:30
8.   Eric Stephen
Furcal is up to 18 runs on the year. Still 6 games to go in (March/)April for him to climb the Dodger leaderboard for runs in a month, and he needs 6 runs to match Davey Lopes' for the most productive run-scoring April.
2008-04-24 17:33:25
9.   StolenMonkey86
7 - I recommend a hair dryer, or perhaps a towel.
2008-04-24 17:39:50
10.   Lexinthedena
7 I remember watching William Vanlandingham shut down the dodgers one time in the 90's...
2008-04-24 17:40:03
11.   underdog
7 They're just jealous because you have a big name.


Woo hoo! I just got a screener DVD for John Cusack's War, Inc. I'm stoked. Was looking forward to that one and doesn't come out until the summer. Too bad I'm already on media overload tonight.

2008-04-24 17:51:36
12.   MyTummyHurts
I think some of the older gentlemen here are a little disappointed (subcontiously) that there beloved Dodgers Stadium (as they knew it when kids) will make a drastic change & are having a hard time understanding slash coming to terms with that fact, I mean this in a cute kind of way of course.
2008-04-24 17:54:05
13.   Marty
I'm an older guy who wanted a new stadium built.
2008-04-24 17:55:14
14.   Lexinthedena
13 You did? really? your the first person I've ever heard say that...why?
2008-04-24 17:58:53
15.   ToyCannon
Make that two, but the more McCourt does the less I care about a new park. This old guy welcomes the changes.
2008-04-24 18:00:21
16.   Marty
All the reasons given lately. It's old, hard to get to, no public transportation. I liked the idea of a new downtown stadium. All the new stadiums built in the last few years are nicer than Dodger stadium. Plus with Vin gone soon, there won't be any real emotional ties to Dodger stadium for me. I like change.
2008-04-24 18:05:49
17.   Andrew Shimmin
Are young people the ones who like gussied up strip malls? I only went to The Grove once (and haven't ever been to Citywalk), but it was not my impression that their clientele was particularly hip.

I'm with Enders, though. If they put in rides, it might be worth it.

2008-04-24 18:08:02
18.   PalmdaleSteve1

If the city is serious about going Green, then there should be a public transportation element to the development.

How much would a people mover from China Town and the metro rail up the hill to Dodger Stadium cost?

2008-04-24 18:12:12
19.   jasbo
Andruw in the 2 hole? Not a bad idea. Don't worry about crushing anything AJ, just make contact.
2008-04-24 18:12:30
20.   Bluebleeder87
Plus with Vin gone soon, there won't be any real emotional ties to Dodger stadium for me.

Key point there. I really think the Dodgers & Frank McCourt ESPECIALLY dropped the ball in letting go of Ross Porter IMHO, he had his faults but I really really liked & had emotional ties to him... darn it!!

2008-04-24 18:16:20
21.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
RE: the previous discussion on untapped sources of competitive advantage: I think international scouting/signing is an area that a lot of teams could improve on.

For example (note: this idea has not been carefully thought out), what if a team like the Dodgers spent $30 million each year to sign all of the good amateur international players? After 5 years or so, the team would have enough talent coming up through the farm system to allow them to cut way back on payroll (hopefully more than $30 million) while still fielding a better team than before.

Does anybody have an idea how you could get a list of top international signees (by bonus) each year for the last 10 years or so? I'd be curious to see how often those players pan out. With the way the FA market is going, I would think that relatively few could pan out and you'd still end up ahead.

2008-04-24 18:16:36
22.   Lexinthedena
20 Ross Porter never saved a flag!
2008-04-24 18:28:30
23.   arbfuldodger
The Solution sent down, Cory Wade (is he well thought of by our minor league guru's ??) called up per

2008-04-24 18:28:37
24.   Marty
Rick Monday never gave a score.
2008-04-24 18:29:33
25.   Marty
23 That link took me to some page that made me think it was a web hijack.
2008-04-24 18:29:51
26.   scareduck
It's odd, but recollecting that Sep. 24, 2006 game the Angels had against Haren (six earned runs against), it seemed to me he was more unlucky than having bad stuff.

But I guess at some point that ceases to be an excuse and you have to deliver.

2008-04-24 18:30:05
27.   OhioBlues12
Calling up Wade is a bit of a surprise. What is his stuff like?
2008-04-24 18:30:31
28.   scareduck
25 - I HATE for that reason alone. is much better.
2008-04-24 18:34:49
29.   MC Safety

Are you friends with Nobody and all those guys?

2008-04-24 18:36:09
30.   Bluebleeder87

I tip my cap in total respect to that lad, he did an awesome job...

2008-04-24 18:45:05
31.   scareduck
17 - Are young people the ones who like gussied up strip malls?

No, the mayor of Huntington Beach loves them, too. She's working on erasing any signs of actual historicity or construction prior to 1985 in the downtown area, and it's a damned shame. The first building she got removed was the old Jack's Surfboards shop on the corner of PCH and Main, a lovely old building that used to be a brothel (something you wouldn't know until somebody pointed out all the narrow vertical windows placed very near each other, indicating small rooms on the second floor). Jack's Surfboards is still there, of course, but the local color has been scrubbed clean.

2008-04-24 18:45:30
32.   Linkmeister
Hey, Skipper, is there gonna be a "Lost" thread at Screen Jam or somewhere tonight?
2008-04-24 18:45:59
33.   StolenMonkey86
a .259 season-adjusted EqA. Not bad.
2008-04-24 18:46:16
34.   Marty
32 Check the post below this one.
2008-04-24 18:54:52
35.   arbfuldodger
heres the original link... sorry about the tiny url snafu

2008-04-24 18:55:22
36.   Bob Timmermann
I really think any talk of a Downtown L.A. Dodger Stadium is a pipe dream. There would just be too many hoops to jump through. And there would be too much opposition to it. And the opposition to any such park would make the disagreements of 1958 look like a minor dustup.
2008-04-24 18:55:51
37.   LeeLacy
10 I was recently at a Yo La Tengo concert, and the lead singer (Ira Kaplan) related a story about how back in the 90's he found out that Van Landingham was a big fan of the band. So their agent contacted him and Mr. V. lined them up with sweet seats to watch him pitch against Kevin Brown (when Brown was still a Padre), and Brown ended up hurling a no-hitter.

So remember this the next time Jeopardy! features the category "Obscure Indie Bands' Chance Encounters With Pitchers With Really Long Names."

2008-04-24 18:57:50
38.   Marty
36 Oh, I completely agree. But I still wanted one. As Toy said, with what Frank is doing to Dodger Stadium, I'm not that anxious for a new one anymore.
2008-04-24 18:58:14
39.   Bluebleeder87
Chad Billingsley has pitched well the last 2 starts (except for the last 2 innings in Atl) but hopefully he'll have a great start tonight. Gonzales ERA is not all that good so let's hope the Dodger hitters hit him accordingly.
2008-04-24 19:00:47
40.   Bluebleeder87
I'm thinking Vinnie will opt for 2 or at least 1 more year.
2008-04-24 19:00:55
41.   underdog
DeWitt will be back. But like BB, I tip my hat to the guy. We'll see you again sooner or later, Solution.

I'm not surprised they called up a pitcher - the inability (for various reasons) of the starters to go deep into games has been killing the 'pen.

Wade has very good stuff. He impressed me this spring a great deal.

But he may not be up for very long. Brazo might be called up within a couple of weeks max.

2008-04-24 19:02:17
42.   Greg Brock
36 Of course it is. Plus, a stadium near the beach would be way cooler.

I nominate the New Dodger Stadium be located by the Santa Monica pier.

2008-04-24 19:02:31
43.   Sam in SC
a sweet breeze of relief sweeps through my den. for some reason, I had been bracing for the Az feed for tonight's game.

but then, vin's voice saying "it's tiiiiiiiiiime for dodger baseball" . . . it was even more welcome than usual.

I really didn't want to listen to the screamer tonight.

2008-04-24 19:04:46
44.   Bob Timmermann
I'm curious (literally!) about how old something has to be for people to want to preserve it.

Tiger Stadium, in my opinion, was a great place to watch a game. But the Tigers didn't think so and Tiger Stadium is either heading for the wrecking ball or will fall apart on its own.

Fenway Park is really a dump. Yet it is beloved. Fenway is cramped and has bad views. Wrigley Field isn't quite as cramped, but it has some nasty pedestrian chokepoints.

And Wrigley isn't going anywhere or being modified in any significant sense.

2008-04-24 19:06:49
45.   Greg Brock
Fenway may be a dump, but it's a dump nestled in a perfect part of Boston.
2008-04-24 19:09:02
46.   Icaros

I'm still sad they left Tiger Stadium. That was the most unique park. I miss Lou Whitaker hitting homers off the short upper-deck in right field.

2008-04-24 19:13:46
47.   Bob Timmermann
Baseball at the corner!
2008-04-24 19:13:56
48.   nofatmike
I think Bad Chad is pitching tonight.
2008-04-24 19:14:09
49.   underdog
Uh oh, is Chad going to have his rough inning in the first tonight? I didn't see that on the schedule.
2008-04-24 19:14:35
50.   Bluebleeder87
And Wrigley isn't going anywhere or being modified in any significant sense.

Gawd I wanna visit that stadium bad! once I retire & sell some of the property my dad left me I'm thinking of going to many places chicago being one of them.

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2008-04-24 19:14:40
51.   scareduck
46 - I understand why they left it. The neighborhood is dangerous.
2008-04-24 19:15:15
52.   Hallux Valgus
41 especially considering that bills isn't exactly known for going deep into games.

I think I saw Wade pitch this spring. That is the entirety of my very insightful analysis on Cory Wade. You're all welcome.

2008-04-24 19:16:02
53.   Bluebleeder87
woah, you guys see the pitch sequence he threw to Hudson, beautiful!.
2008-04-24 19:16:23
54.   underdog
Well, he showed the O-Dog a thing or two.

I wonder how many times over the years Vin has uttered the "Girl with the curls" anecdote? Several hundred?

2008-04-24 19:16:35
55.   Bob Timmermann
"There used to be a ballpark here"

Major League parks I've been to that aren't around anymore, ranked by how much I liked them.

1. Tiger Stadium
2. County Stadium
3. Busch Stadium II
4. Atlanta Fulton County Stadium

Parks which are still around, but not used for baseball

1. Candlestick Park
2. Qualcomm Stadium

2008-04-24 19:17:07
56.   Linkmeister
34 Thanks, Marty.

I've used my Amazon Visa card enough to have a $25 GC in my hands, and for the first time in my life I'm stuck on what to get at that store.

Old music, new book(s)...the choices, the choices!

2008-04-24 19:17:17
57.   underdog
Not sure how that fastball missed.
2008-04-24 19:17:36
58.   Bob Timmermann
The neighborhood around Tiger Stadium isn't that much different than the neighborhood around Comerica. They aren't all that far apart.
2008-04-24 19:17:59
59.   underdog
C'mon Chad!

Well, he'll snap out of it. DBacks are often tough in the first.

2008-04-24 19:19:38
60.   scareduck
50 - Wrigley is a glorious old shrine, a lovingly preserved, filthy old rat-trap of a park, complete with obstructed views. The neighborhood really makes it; the ballhawks plying their trade, perhaps less often now than when Sammy Sosa patrolled right field for the Cubs, out on Waveland Ave., are something you will see nowhere else outside a major league park.

Photos from my Wrigley Field adventure:

2008-04-24 19:20:26
61.   underdog
Mark Reynolds is like the little girl with the curls...
2008-04-24 19:22:35
62.   Bluebleeder87
Candlestick is a dump.
2008-04-24 19:23:03
63.   Sam in SC
has it been observed yet that jones is wearing his socks high? a famous slump buster.
2008-04-24 19:23:08
64.   micktissue
Sort of the opposite of Bills last game where he started strong and then had those 5th inning control problems?
2008-04-24 19:23:23
65.   underdog
Way to settle down Chad! Whew.

"Andruw Jones makes the catch... using two hands by the way," says Vin.

2008-04-24 19:23:51
66.   Ken Noe
Old Comiskey was a more fun park in many ways, albeit a leaky and decrepit one, but it had neither the charming neighborhood nor the reputation. Or the cute team.
2008-04-24 19:24:15
67.   Bob Timmermann
Candlestick wasn't really a dump. It was just cold. And some of the worst access of any stadium in the majors.

It was nicer before it was expanded for the 49ers. I only attended day games there.

2008-04-24 19:24:35
68.   micktissue
And if I remember right, Torre took him out after 90 pitches recently ... He's at 18 right now.
2008-04-24 19:25:05
69.   underdog
62 That was funnier when Bette Davis said it in "Beyond the Forest".
2008-04-24 19:25:09
70.   Bob Timmermann
Old Comiskey was hurt by having one of baseball's most evil owners.
2008-04-24 19:27:40
71.   NorCal-Dodger
Interesting lineup by Torre, with the PVL's from 1-4 and the kids from 5-8. Which end will produce tonight?
2008-04-24 19:29:20
72.   underdog
.316 BA at home for the Dodgers.
2.4 ERA at home.

On the road? Not quite as good.

2008-04-24 19:30:19
73.   Gen3Blue
I'm not down on the players being played as much as the order. Last night we did OK with Furc and Ethier in the first 3, and I would rather see Furcal, Martin and Ethier up top. How you have Jones and Nomar 2nd and 3rd sort of confounds me.
2008-04-24 19:30:20
74.   Hallux Valgus
71 In the previous thread, I called it the mullet lineup, because it's business up top, and party in the back.

So obviously we will see a result that won't stop a-rockin'

2008-04-24 19:30:48
75.   underdog
Gnome-ar with the hard single!

So Vin keeps saying the Dodgers have no one now who can back him up at 3rd. Is that true that Hu can't play at all? We know Young can't. Sweeney? Er... Russell?

2008-04-24 19:31:26
76.   micktissue
As long as Nomar keeps doing that he can hit anywhere he likes.
2008-04-24 19:31:31
77.   Hallux Valgus
wow. How on earth was he safe on that?
2008-04-24 19:31:44
78.   Bob Timmermann
If Hu stands at 3rd base with a glove, there are snipers in the stadium who have orders to kill him.
2008-04-24 19:31:55
79.   skybluestoday

The Old Guys pitch in!


2008-04-24 19:31:58
80.   Sam in SC
great slide by backwards Ramon.
2008-04-24 19:32:01
81.   underdog
PHEW! That was very close at home. But I'm glad Bowa sent him. You kind of had to.
2008-04-24 19:32:07
82.   Bob Timmermann
You need to tag the runner to record an out.
2008-04-24 19:32:33
83.   Gen3Blue
Wow, that was perilous at home. We'll take it.
2008-04-24 19:32:35
84.   Hallux Valgus
...replay shows he was. Very gritty, Gnome-ar.
2008-04-24 19:32:47
85.   underdog
78 Has someone been watching 70s conspiracy thrillers lately or something?
2008-04-24 19:33:24
86.   Sam in SC
Nomar scores from first, kent winds up at third on the same play . . . and EMS wasn't required.
2008-04-24 19:35:27
87.   bhsportsguy
82 You are funnier online than in person.

Oh, did you hear that UCLA lost 2 quarterbacks in a span of about 5 minutes at their last practice before the spring scrimmage.

Apparently both Dodger 3Bs and UCLA QBs both need good health plans.

2008-04-24 19:36:01
88.   Jon Weisman
A replacement for Spin City:

2008-04-24 19:36:30
89.   scareduck
Must trade Kemp now, he's misjudged a fly ball to give the opposition a double instead of an out. Can't have any value now...
2008-04-24 19:36:32
90.   Sam in SC
oh, my, matthew. not good.
2008-04-24 19:36:36
91.   D4P
You need to tag the runner to record an out

But even that might not be enough, such as the time that Braves catcher tagged Andy LaRoche, only to have LaRoche called "safe".

2008-04-24 19:36:38
92.   bhsportsguy
They say the hardest ball to judge is a line drive hit right at you.
2008-04-24 19:37:44
93.   skybluestoday
Re: 85

Hot 1970s Conspiracy Thrillers

1) The Conversation
2) Night Moves
3) The Parallax View
4) Chinatown

2008-04-24 19:37:44
94.   D4P
Hey wait: where's Gary Bennett...?
2008-04-24 19:38:04
95.   underdog

This one's not looking like a pitcher's duel.

2008-04-24 19:38:08
96.   Sam in SC
of course. the home run comes on the heels of the misplayed ball by kemp.
2008-04-24 19:38:38
97.   Bob Timmermann
"Chinatown" is a 1970s conspiracy thriller?
2008-04-24 19:39:02
98.   underdog
94 Alas, we can't blame him for any struggles Bills has tonight.
2008-04-24 19:39:04
99.   D4P
What kind of name is "Jeff Salazar" anyway...?
2008-04-24 19:39:19
100.   trainwreck
Let the Craft era begin.

Of course, this era only lasts a couple days.

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2008-04-24 19:39:28
101.   skybluestoday
Re: 97

"He OWNS the police!"

2008-04-24 19:39:33
102.   scareduck
88 - 69 WPM, but that's kind of a bad sample. I used to be able to get up to 80+ when I was in high school, but backspaces on computer keyboards really spoiled my rate.
2008-04-24 19:39:55
103.   underdog
97 It's not set in the 70s but it's from the 70s. You could argue it is, given the whole water plot and everything under Gittes' nose.
2008-04-24 19:40:48
104.   underdog
Chad Billingsley is looking like the little girl with the curls tonight. When he's...

Oh, forget it.

2008-04-24 19:41:37
105.   Greg Brock
What about Marathon Man?
2008-04-24 19:42:22
106.   Bluebleeder87
74 Golden!
2008-04-24 19:42:41
107.   underdog
Nice play by Kent there! I almost thought that was Hu for a second.
2008-04-24 19:42:48
108.   Greg Brock
Or The Boys from Brazil?
2008-04-24 19:43:17
109.   bhsportsguy
100 It wasn't even on contact, Cowan mistepped and twisted his knee on a throw and Olson just heard a "pop" in his foot.

They wearing shells and shirts today.

2008-04-24 19:43:31
110.   scareduck
Soylent Green?
2008-04-24 19:43:45
111.   underdog
Don't forget Three Days of the Condor.
2008-04-24 19:43:57
112.   skybluestoday
Re: 103, 97

Yeah, I meant movies from the 1970s. "Chinatown" is a bit of a stretch, but it's pretty damn paranoid.

Not just "under" his nose, eh?

"Hold it there, kittycat! Hold it. You a very nosy fella. You know what happens to nosy fellas? Eh? They lose their noses."

(slash! ouch!)

"Next time I cut off the whole thing, feed it to my...goldfish."

2008-04-24 19:44:26
113.   Bob Timmermann
When Chinatown and Parallax View end up in the same classification, that's a conspiracy, a conspiracy to drive me crazy.
2008-04-24 19:45:51
114.   Sam in SC
vin is still on upton's back about using one hand.
2008-04-24 19:45:57
115.   Hallux Valgus
boy, Vin really does hate the one handed catch.
2008-04-24 19:48:37
116.   bhsportsguy
They are hitting the ball hard but right at people.
2008-04-24 19:48:41
117.   skybluestoday
Re: 113

Not sure why. They draw from some of the same energy -- the Beatty/Evans axis. Of course one has an auteur at its helm and one has but a decent journeyman.

(If it's not clear enough, I think "Chinatown" is a masterpiece, and "Parallax View" is basically a workmanlike solid 70s thriller.)

2008-04-24 19:50:00
118.   Bluebleeder87
I'm sure we'll score more than 1 run but Chad Billingsley has to do his part & keep them at bay.
2008-04-24 19:51:00
119.   underdog
112 Yup. I was making a very subtle reference to that famous scene of Polanski-nostril-slicing.

Come on, boys in blue, you can rake against this guy! Give Chad some love.

2008-04-24 19:52:06
120.   Xeifrank
Dodger Win Expectancy: 29%
vr, Xei
2008-04-24 19:52:07
121.   Daniel Zappala
I can get up to 110 wpm or so.
2008-04-24 19:52:18
122.   scareduck
119 - or at least a slow, straight fastball.
2008-04-24 19:54:09
123.   Bluebleeder87
That's what you gotta do with Jackson (pitch him inside) I'd be cool if they pitch him out side as a surprise but inside is were it's at...
2008-04-24 19:55:04
124.   Hallux Valgus
wow. I haven't seen any of those movies. Smokey and the Bandit was good, though. It had Burt Reynolds, a lady called Frog, Jerry Reed songs, and Jackie Gleason calling people Scum Bum (in the TBS version). I don't know why people need more to a movie than that. Maybe an elephant, which was subsequently taken care of.
2008-04-24 19:55:48
125.   underdog
I think I'm going to start calling Chad "Sybill"-ingsley.
2008-04-24 19:56:13
126.   Bluebleeder87
Chad Billingsley is a jeckle & hyde type deal today.
2008-04-24 19:57:18
127.   skybluestoday
Re: 124

You haven't lived until you get to see the third one...

2008-04-24 19:57:35
128.   Hallux Valgus
125 > 126
2008-04-24 19:58:09
129.   Greg Brock
Both Marathon Man and The Boys from Brazil have Laurence Olivier. See those!

Plus, Marathon Man has the most torturiffic scene ever.

2008-04-24 19:58:54
130.   skybluestoday
Is it safe?
2008-04-24 20:01:14
131.   underdog
Winter Kills is a kind of underrated late 70s conspiracy thriller.

I think The Conversation is still my favorite.

2008-04-24 20:01:21
132.   Hallux Valgus
speaking of Olivier, I saw a script floating around the office today called Spartacus. I am very very worried.
2008-04-24 20:01:32
133.   regfairfield
124 I still love the line "there were two things wrong with that movie: No Smokey, no Bandit". And use it whenever I see a movie I don't like.
2008-04-24 20:02:12
134.   Sam in SC
vin finally got his two handed catch out of upton. he must have gone down to the dugout between innings and slapped him around.
2008-04-24 20:02:14
135.   skybluestoday
I suppose "All the President's Men" would probably be the ultimate in 1970s conspiracy thrillers, were it not for the nagging, uncomfortable fact that it's not fiction.
2008-04-24 20:02:38
136.   Hallux Valgus
133 I almost use that line. I am right there with you.
2008-04-24 20:03:00
137.   Bob Hendley
Vinny is beginning to sound like my Little League coach with this two-hands stuff.
2008-04-24 20:03:05
138.   alex 7
jones is swinging through 89 mph fastballs. yikes.
2008-04-24 20:03:35
139.   Sam in SC
the socks aren't helping, andruw.
2008-04-24 20:03:59
140.   Hallux Valgus
well, it was to the first base side, so I guess technically, Andruw went the other way. positive thoughts?
2008-04-24 20:04:02
141.   Bluebleeder87
cuffing your pants up like Jones is doing it is the "Go to move" when your struggling bad I guess.
2008-04-24 20:04:14
142.   underdog
Feh. Feh, I say.
2008-04-24 20:04:41
143.   underdog
140 - He's also not swinging at everything now, at least, as Vin noted.
2008-04-24 20:05:11
144.   Bob Timmermann
TypeRacer is not as much fun as Spin City. Not by a longshot.
2008-04-24 20:06:12
145.   underdog
Darnit, I hate that you can't pause the MLBTV player now.
2008-04-24 20:06:33
146.   Bluebleeder87
The ump has a really nice strike zone.
2008-04-24 20:07:45
147.   underdog
8 Ks for Chad now, including 4 in a row.
2008-04-24 20:08:26
148.   JT Dutch
... We have a McCourt Alert. Mute button activated.
2008-04-24 20:08:33
149.   Jacob Burch
Vin just dropped Gertrude Stein. Everyday a new reason to love this man.
2008-04-24 20:08:42
150.   bhsportsguy
Gertrude Stein or Stern and Toots Shors.

Vin just lost at least 1/2 of DT with those names.

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2008-04-24 20:08:46
151.   underdog
Hearing Vin's side of this interview is interesting however.
2008-04-24 20:09:16
152.   Icaros
I want to hear if a statue of the fans is part of the renovation.
2008-04-24 20:09:21
153.   Bob Timmermann
Los Angeles County is over 4700 square miles, not 460. About 4000 square miles is land.

The CITY of Los Angeles is around 460 square miles.

2008-04-24 20:09:32
154.   Hallux Valgus
I'm amazed that these artist renderings aren't digital. You could make a really cool 3D interactive thing.

And then have zombies on the green necklace that you can shoot. (by the by- I hate the phrase "green necklace")

2008-04-24 20:09:55
155.   Daniel Zappala
131 Strangely, when I see "Winter Kills", I think of the song by Allison Moyet.
2008-04-24 20:10:17
156.   Bluebleeder87
Chands on now...
2008-04-24 20:10:20
157.   skybluestoday
Chad "Nolan" Billingsley!
2008-04-24 20:10:21
158.   bhsportsguy
150 Toots Shors was long gone by the time I first visited New York, I did go to Mickey Mantle's place by Central Park South.
2008-04-24 20:10:28
159.   Hallux Valgus
152 I offered to be a model, but I was turned down because I refused to hold a beach ball.
2008-04-24 20:10:29
160.   PalmdaleSteve1
Back to being positive

I'm positive that Andruw is in one heck of a slump....

2008-04-24 20:10:33
161.   Branch Rickey
Is that Bobby Bonilla sitting next to Dennis Gilbert (his ex-agent) behind home plate?
2008-04-24 20:10:34
162.   Bob Timmermann
And a special thanks to Chad Billingsley for a quick inning!
2008-04-24 20:10:59
163.   underdog
Another K for Sy-Bills. Wow. Talk about settling down.

And a Man From La Mancha reference to end it from Vin. Bless him!

2008-04-24 20:10:59
164.   scareduck
155 - Boy, what has she done since Yaz? IIRC she had a solo career but I never heard any of that.
2008-04-24 20:12:13
165.   Bob Hendley
149 - She must have written with two hands.
2008-04-24 20:12:15
166.   scareduck
149 - "That's not writing, that's typing."

-- (IIRC) Hemingway on Gertrude Stein

2008-04-24 20:12:39
167.   bhsportsguy
153 Fine, you call Vin out on that.

Also, the little box of facts in their presentation say the Dodgers have drawn over 160+ million at Dodger Stadium, that's wrong, whatever figure they used is the cumulative total for the franchise since 1901.

2008-04-24 20:12:46
168.   Hallux Valgus
So we've gone from Gertrude Stein to Bobby Bonilla to Sybill to Yaz. This is getting kind of awesome.
2008-04-24 20:13:17
169.   Icaros
I hate the phrase "green necklace"

How about green headband?

2008-04-24 20:13:40
170.   underdog
I guess Gnome-ar likes the 3 spot.
2008-04-24 20:13:46
171.   bhsportsguy

See, he's relaxed now that Dewitt isn't breathing down his neck.

2008-04-24 20:14:21
172.   kinbote
A multi-run homer would be nice this inning.
2008-04-24 20:14:53
173.   scareduck
171 - gotta tell the rookies not to follow the veterans around quite so closely.
2008-04-24 20:15:08
174.   bhsportsguy
168 You just don't get those kind of references from Ted Leitner.
2008-04-24 20:15:10
175.   underdog
I feel like "green necklace" is a term for some sort of illicit drug you might take at the Bumbershoot Music Festival or whatever.
2008-04-24 20:15:20
176.   Hallux Valgus
169 I can handle that. The former brings to mind a very very NSFW euphemism.
2008-04-24 20:16:14
177.   scareduck
Gnome-ar can steal, too. Nice!
2008-04-24 20:16:49
178.   underdog
A... stolen base for Gnome-ar?? Wowsa. Nice jump.
2008-04-24 20:17:01
179.   scareduck
175 - that or a synonym an illicit sex act.
2008-04-24 20:17:06
180.   Hallux Valgus
oh man. I see a Very Gritty Inning coming on...
2008-04-24 20:17:11
181.   Icaros

It brought to mind the same euphemism for me, but I think that's why I kind of like it.

2008-04-24 20:17:31
182.   bhsportsguy
Vin, they don't use videotape anymore, at least not for replays.
2008-04-24 20:18:06
183.   Bob Timmermann
Ted Leitner only knows how to reference himself.

Leitner is the dregs of San Diego announcerdom. And yet he seems to be very popular.

Which shows there is absolutely no accounting for taste by our neighbors to the south.

2008-04-24 20:18:13
184.   underdog
How can those dumb Pirates fans have said anything bad about Vin Scully? I still don't get it. He's Vin, tonight!
2008-04-24 20:18:32
185.   Daniel Zappala
164 I have her Yaz record on LP. Also her first solo LP after that, called Alf, and featuring "Invisible", and "Love Resurrection".

You can listen to a few songs free at Rhapsody:

2008-04-24 20:19:24
186.   bhsportsguy
183 I know what draws out a Timmermann response.
2008-04-24 20:20:33
187.   Daniel Zappala
185 She took a long hiatus, but released albums in 2002 and 2005, which I haven't heard yet.
2008-04-24 20:20:35
188.   SoSG Orel
166 He was just jealous she beat him at TypeRacer.
2008-04-24 20:20:44
189.   Hallux Valgus
181 I just don't like to think about the green part... maybe you need to go see a doctor, 'cause that ain't right.
2008-04-24 20:20:57
190.   bhsportsguy
184 Vin, Wikipedia and DT, a perfect trio.
2008-04-24 20:22:12
191.   underdog
Yay, Lonestar!

Another thing I hate about MLBTV, is how blurry the picture is, blurry enough where I often can't even see where the ball is after it's been hit. I thought Loney had popped that up at first.

2008-04-24 20:22:29
192.   Jacob Burch
Starting to sound like Rule 1 straddling...

My purchase of a Loney T-Shirt makes me feel so good.

2008-04-24 20:23:02
193.   Greg Brock
Nice lookin' older bird sitting behind the dish tonight.
2008-04-24 20:24:52
194.   underdog
C'mon Gonzalez, he's not going anywhere!
2008-04-24 20:25:22
195.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think Miguel Montero is that attractive, but there's nothing with you liking him.
2008-04-24 20:26:28
196.   Greg Brock
10,000 wins sounds like something the McCourts will make an overly big deal about.
2008-04-24 20:26:28
197.   Hallux Valgus
wow. I'm kind of amazed that the Yankees aren't #1. According to Major Media Sources, the Yankees are awesome, and so is Boston, and everything else stinks. Why hast thou forsaken me, Major Media Sources?!?
2008-04-24 20:26:40
198.   Bluebleeder87
nice tag by Loney there...
2008-04-24 20:27:00
199.   bhsportsguy
James is playing dangerously
2008-04-24 20:27:07
200.   oshea2002
that was dumb - he gets thrown out - no run.
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2008-04-24 20:27:14
201.   Bob Timmermann
The Cubs and Giants had a two decade head start.
2008-04-24 20:27:31
202.   underdog
Nicely sacrificed, Andre!

193 A bird, or a cougar?

I keep getting irritated with the number of people behind home plate who are yakking on cell phones during the game.

2008-04-24 20:27:31
203.   ucladodger
Way to up that OBP Bison!
2008-04-24 20:27:46
204.   oshea2002
there's no way kent touched home before Loney slid into second.
2008-04-24 20:27:55
205.   Bob Timmermann
It would have been a timing play to see if the run had scored if Loney had been called out.
2008-04-24 20:28:12
206.   underdog
Sy-Bill could really help his cause here.
2008-04-24 20:28:51
207.   Greg Brock
The deer is awesome, but Turk once planted a garden in the Mets bullpen.

That's funnier.

2008-04-24 20:29:13
208.   Bluebleeder87
little do we know penny likes killing deer and eating em
2008-04-24 20:29:59
209.   oshea2002
205 - I agree - I'm assuming Loney is faster then Kent. The more I think of it the more I think we got really lucky he was safe.
2008-04-24 20:30:15
210.   DodgerOkie88

That's how they do it here.

2008-04-24 20:30:19
211.   underdog
Ooooh. Chad almost put one through the middle. Drat.

Why did Proctor put a deer statue in the bullpen? I'm confused - are there gnomes and deer out there? What is this, a Disney movie, or grandpa's vegetable garden?

2008-04-24 20:30:24
212.   StolenMonkey86
the pitch counts and the scores are tied!

Billingsley has 9 K and 1 BB to 1 K and 2 BB for Gonzalez.

2008-04-24 20:30:40
213.   Gen3Blue
The strange case of Chad Billingsley. On one hand, his amazing strikeout rate is a strong indicater that he will be successful;
On the other hand, he reminds of the characters in the Wizard of Oz, who sing about the wonderful things they would accomplish if they only had a heart, or brain, or some such organ.
This may yet turn out OK for Dodger fans, because I think in the end these characters realize that they had what they needed all along.
2008-04-24 20:30:51
214.   Hallux Valgus
202 Oh man. Don't get me started. Several years ago (the first with the newish seating configuration behind the plate?), I stayed home from work to watch opening day at Dodger Stadium. There was a lady directly behind home plate who spent THE ENTIRE GAME on her cell phone, waving at the camera. I wanted to strangle her. That is so friggin annoying.
2008-04-24 20:31:23
215.   underdog
Okay, here we go. That dangerous 5th inning that's been Chad's undoing before. Fingers crossed.
2008-04-24 20:31:50
216.   Hallux Valgus
according to Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the whole Universal lot is awash with fake deer.
2008-04-24 20:32:22
217.   scareduck
10 K's for psycho Billy.
2008-04-24 20:32:47
218.   Gen3Blue
Oh that was just a nasty curve.
2008-04-24 20:33:11
219.   underdog
That strikeout pitch was a thing of beauty.
2008-04-24 20:33:56
220.   Greg Brock
Turk actually held a funeral for one of his fake reindeer. He had put fake reindeer in the bullpen the year earlier.

Turk was the best.

2008-04-24 20:35:17
221.   underdog
Darnit, just when it looked like the 5th inning curse was not in effect, it goes into effect.
2008-04-24 20:35:22
222.   Gen3Blue
Darn, what can you say--Hu would have had that. But Kent has the offense still.
2008-04-24 20:36:36
223.   underdog
2008-04-24 20:37:01
224.   oshea2002
Bills can be really frustrating to watch sometimes
2008-04-24 20:37:08
225.   bhsportsguy
222 That was hit pretty hard, if Hu makes that play its Web Gem of the month.
2008-04-24 20:37:24
226.   scareduck
213 - Will Nancy Bea's organ do?
2008-04-24 20:37:45
227.   Greg Brock
The curios case of Chad Billingsley.
2008-04-24 20:38:09
228.   scareduck
223 - Rule 1 violation! I'mna tell!
2008-04-24 20:38:38
229.   Hallux Valgus
With all the fake deer references, during this inning, I choose to watch Your Studio And You again. Positive thoughts.
2008-04-24 20:39:19
230.   Greg Brock
I'm not a violent man, but I want to fight every person that boos Billingsley.
2008-04-24 20:39:48
231.   Sam in SC
2008-04-24 20:40:06
232.   Gen3Blue
225 Wouldn't surprise me a bit

Sorry but Hu probably makes that DP.

2008-04-24 20:40:15
233.   underdog
The PVL double play combo wasn't quite quick enough on that one.
2008-04-24 20:41:09
234.   JT Dutch

... Who's doing that? I must be missing it.

And yes, that would be quite ignorant.

2008-04-24 20:41:11
235.   underdog
232 - Yes, that I agree with.

I don't think I'm alone, though, when I say I feel like this game isn't quite over yet.

2008-04-24 20:41:24
236.   Bob Timmermann
I've been busy fixing former big league pitcher Tom Timmermann's wikipedia page. His name was spelled "Timmerman" in every reference except the main one.

If I find the person who did the original page, I'm going to administer some justice: Clinton County, Illinois style.

2008-04-24 20:41:38
237.   bhsportsguy
Of course Nomar and Kent are responsible for 3 runs tonight so there you go.
2008-04-24 20:42:24
238.   underdog
I feel like the scattered boos I just heard were booing the slow double play combo, not Chad.
2008-04-24 20:42:27
239.   alex 7
I think Dodger fans are just booing at the bad outcome (opponent runs scored), not necessarily at Bills.
2008-04-24 20:43:19
240.   ucladodger
It always stinks to give up 2 runs with only 1 well hit ball.
2008-04-24 20:43:27
241.   Vishal
ok, so what's the deal with chad billingsley?
2008-04-24 20:43:30
242.   underdog
Beautiful slow curve. WOW.

Man, this will stink if Bills loses this game.

2008-04-24 20:44:03
243.   bhsportsguy
That ball was not hit that hard to Nomar, Kent turned it just fine, Jackson just beat it.
2008-04-24 20:44:05
244.   Gen3Blue
235 Hu isn't often cited for his great arm.

I hope this game isn't over, we have to keep coming in games like this and I think we can with the right tweaking of attitude.

2008-04-24 20:45:17
245.   NorCal-Dodger
Very perplexing, 5ER in 5 innings, but 11K's, guess can classify as a strong non-quality start. Let's get some runs!!
2008-04-24 20:45:30
246.   Brent Knapp
According to Kevin Pearson:

UCLA quarterbacks Pat Cowan and Ben Olson were both injured in practice on Thursday and were taken off the field on the same golf cart. Olson hurt his right foot, Cowan hurt his left knee.

I'm actually going to go to the scrimmage on Saturday. I'm happy to see we will have great quarterback play again this year.

2008-04-24 20:46:01
247.   KAYVMON
241 Many good Diamondbacks hitters will not want to see him again after tonight.
2008-04-24 20:46:08
248.   Greg Brock
241 Pretty maddening. Throw strikes! Quit nibbling!

On the bright side, he's good.

2008-04-24 20:46:53
249.   underdog
243 Kent seemed to turn it a bit slow to me, and his throw wasn't one of his best, Nomar seemed a bit slow on it, too. Maybe I'm nit picking but it seemed like it could've been 2.

241 He's been amazing, except when he hasn't. 11 strikeouts. Some hard hits, a few not so hard hits. He's been woefully inconsistent but often brilliant. So he deserves to win and he deserves to lose.

2008-04-24 20:47:31
250.   ucladodger
Man, even when he hits a ball well he cant catch a break. Ball bounced right to the guy.
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2008-04-24 20:47:45
251.   Hallux Valgus
wow. That was a heckuva throw. Vin said he's NEVER see that play result in a single.
2008-04-24 20:47:52
252.   Vishal
248 well, his k/bb ratio for tonight is 11/2. so what i'm wondering is, why's he getting hit so far this season?
2008-04-24 20:48:12
253.   underdog
Wow. That was a nice hit and a great carom grab by Salazar on that one. It's also amazing Andruw wasn't thrown out at second. He or someone must have been on the ball to tell him to stay at 1st.
2008-04-24 20:48:35
254.   JT Dutch
... I wonder if Jones bothered to hustle on the play, but it was a very nice catch and throw out there.
2008-04-24 20:49:16
255.   alex 7
defense is so pretty
2008-04-24 20:49:27
256.   Sam in SC
web gem. against the dodgers, unfortunately.
2008-04-24 20:49:31
257.   Hallux Valgus
253 right now, I'm happy he's, um, cuddly instead of svelte.

what crap luck

2008-04-24 20:49:54
258.   underdog
MAN. That stinks. Nomar robbed. Andruw robbed.


2008-04-24 20:49:57
259.   ucladodger
This game isnt fair. Chad gives up 2 runs on crap and then 2 hard hit balls ends up in nothing. DBacks are living a charmed life right now.
2008-04-24 20:50:06
260.   KAYVMON
Jeez, what can you say. Two really talented teams playing at the Ravine tonight.
2008-04-24 20:51:08
261.   bhsportsguy
Kemp doesn't misplay the line drive and Chad doesn't throw a wild pitch, its a tie game.
2008-04-24 20:51:28
262.   underdog
Baseball's too frustrating. I'm gonna watch a bit of 30 Rock and The Office and just check on this sporadically. I'm obviously not helping the Dodgers any by watching every minute of this game (he says, superstitiously).
2008-04-24 20:52:03
263.   Greg Brock
Vin was knocked off his game by the early inning.
2008-04-24 20:52:18
264.   Vishal
also, i've been travelling and such, so pardon my asking, but... did nomar pretty much get the starting job as soon as he got back, no questions asked? i thought dewitt had been doing a decent job...
2008-04-24 20:52:20
265.   JT Dutch

... His concentration was not there from batter to batter, especially when there were runners on base.

2008-04-24 20:53:15
266.   Hallux Valgus
264 yes
2008-04-24 20:53:20
267.   Bluebleeder87
I remember seeing Pedro Guerrero hit a ball really really hard to RF (he was admiring it) he only got a single out of it, Tommy wasn't to happy.
2008-04-24 20:53:32
268.   KAYVMON
262 I know we're losing, but i dont think you are going to see much better played and competitive games all season. On both sides.
2008-04-24 20:55:27
269.   Hallux Valgus
268 I think there will be. multiple wild pitches, several defensive mistakes, some lucky hitting... that describes a lot of games
2008-04-24 20:55:28
270.   trainwreck
If wishes and buts were clusters of nuts, we'd all have a bowl of granola.
2008-04-24 20:56:03
271.   Bluebleeder87
264 don't believe 266 it was a 2 way race but La Roche hurt his hand & Nomar was hurt also so the job was pretty much handed to DeWitt & he did a very very respectable job there.
2008-04-24 20:56:47
272.   KAYVMON
265 On the homerun he gave up, he hit his spot. Russell wasn't even going to have to move his glove. So, the gameplan might deserve some blame.
2008-04-24 20:58:27
273.   Greg Brock
270 If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.
2008-04-24 20:59:01
274.   Hallux Valgus
271 What? Nomar was handed the job when he came back from injury. That's what happened. He is hitting worse than DeWitt was hitting before Nomar came back, and DeWitt just got sent down. LaRoche can't compete for a job when he's in extended spring training.
2008-04-24 20:59:08
275.   Bluebleeder87
They trotted Gonzalez back out there WE MUST do something here!
2008-04-24 21:01:18
276.   Bluebleeder87
nah but Vishal is asking about spring training & stuff (that's what I'm assuming) but yeah, he was given the job once he came back from injury.
2008-04-24 21:01:36
277.   underdog
Wow, an actual break for the Dodgers. We'll take it.
2008-04-24 21:02:08
278.   KAYVMON
269 Sure. But some great defensive plays, aggressive smart baserunning, lots of hard hit balls.

In any case, this game ain't over yet, so we'll see.

2008-04-24 21:02:37
279.   Bob Timmermann
So far tonight during this game, I have found that Wikipedia had articles claiming that:
1) O'Malley BOUGHT Chavez Ravine for several million dollars


2) The City of L.A. sold Chavez Ravine to O'Malley for one dollar.

Neither are remotely true. It was a nice deal, but that wasn't how it was set up.

2008-04-24 21:02:41
280.   JT Dutch
... Looks like Gonzalez isn't long for this one.
2008-04-24 21:03:07
281.   Bluebleeder87
What is it about 1st basemen & running funny (Karros, & now Loney) I wonder if Garvey also ran funny.
2008-04-24 21:03:17
282.   Hallux Valgus
"did nomar pretty much get the starting job as soon as he got back, no questions asked?"

That is in no way about spring training. He didn't get back in spring training. He got back during the season.

2008-04-24 21:04:45
283.   KAYVMON
281 Their hamstrings are too stretched out?
2008-04-24 21:05:00
284.   Hallux Valgus
278 correct. And that describes a lot of games. Great plays, mitigated by not great plays, which keep the score close. If we don't see many game of this sort, it will mean that LA is a very bad team.
2008-04-24 21:06:14
285.   Bluebleeder87
Mike Marshall was groomed to play 1st base but instead was moved to RF, he also wore huge cleats (sp?) from what I remember of Vinny saying it.
2008-04-24 21:06:43
286.   El Lay Dave
SSSW. Nomar with his 2 for 3 so far tonight has these numbers for the season:
.240 / .345 / .360 / .705

DeWitt was sent down with this:
.255 / .367 / .333 / .700

DeWitt did a great job holding down the fort, but if Nomar is healthy, he should produce more. (Although his glove is definitely less than Blake's.)

2008-04-24 21:07:14
287.   Greg Brock
279 Charlie Chaplin threatened the world. But then the UN came, and UN-Nazi'd the world.
2008-04-24 21:07:57
288.   Jacob Burch
How many HBP is that for ethier? 3? 4?
2008-04-24 21:07:57
289.   bhsportsguy
Man. we could have scored an easy run there if it doesn't hit Ethier.
2008-04-24 21:07:59
290.   JT Dutch
... Alright, Matt. Time to make a statement.
2008-04-24 21:08:11
291.   Vishal
yeah, i was talking about this past week or so. i'm not happy with nomar as our starting third baseman. i feel like we'd get the same [non-] production out of one of the young guys, and the young guy would be developing/getting better at least.

i dunno, maybe when laroche is healthy he will start regularly, but we'll see.

2008-04-24 21:08:32
292.   underdog
I wonder if the Diamondback announcers are now saying that the Ethier should eventually say "Enough is enough" and retaliate.
2008-04-24 21:08:54
293.   SoSG Orel
279 Please go on.
2008-04-24 21:09:18
294.   Bluebleeder87
bases loaded & Kemp have an issue with each other.
2008-04-24 21:09:36
295.   El Lay Dave
288 3
2008-04-24 21:09:52
296.   Vishal
man, i wish i could watch this at-bat. i might need to get again.
2008-04-24 21:10:03
297.   Bob Timmermann
Ethier has been hit not once, not twice, but thrice!
2008-04-24 21:10:15
298.   Hallux Valgus
these are not great swings
2008-04-24 21:10:36
299.   Hallux Valgus
and that one was the worst of all.
2008-04-24 21:10:39
300.   Sam in SC
cruz thought the inning was over, I think.
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2008-04-24 21:11:05
301.   madmac
2008-04-24 21:11:06
302.   trainwreck
Same here. Stupid cable company not offering anything.
2008-04-24 21:11:14
303.   Vishal
ok, maybe i'm better off not watching.
2008-04-24 21:11:19
304.   Hallux Valgus
296 no, consider yourself lucky.
2008-04-24 21:11:19
305.   Bluebleeder87
That's right Torre take notes... I wonder what they do with those notes though.
2008-04-24 21:11:27
306.   underdog
Did Cruz think that was the third out? Jerk.
2008-04-24 21:11:33
307.   bhsportsguy
Matt had some shots.
2008-04-24 21:11:54
308.   Vishal
who's hitting for bills?
2008-04-24 21:12:14
309.   El Lay Dave
Sweeney will single here.
2008-04-24 21:12:44
310.   Bluebleeder87
I like Sweeney here...
2008-04-24 21:13:14
311.   Kevin Lewis
or walk
2008-04-24 21:13:32
312.   madmac
just hope Sweeney doesn't kill this rally and hit a HR
2008-04-24 21:13:57
313.   Bluebleeder87
even if he doesn't get a hit I like the move from Torre
2008-04-24 21:14:02
314.   ucladodger
Matt has to make Cruz pay for the hanging slider or fastball down the middle. He has missed an absolute ton of hittable pitches this year. Dissappointing...
2008-04-24 21:15:00
315.   Vishal
2008-04-24 21:15:04
316.   underdog
Darn. Hit deep and well, but not deep and well enough.
2008-04-24 21:15:19
317.   Kevin Lewis
ouch. That was not what we needed
2008-04-24 21:15:22
318.   trainwreck
Super weak.
2008-04-24 21:15:33
319.   ucladodger

What "move"? Who else is he going to put up there in that spot?

2008-04-24 21:15:44
320.   Brent Knapp
Billingham? I love Vin and will miss him dearly whenever he chooses to retire (and I hope it's HIS choice) but he is getting old!
2008-04-24 21:15:53
321.   Bluebleeder87
Kemp looks like a teenager on prom night when he has the bases loaded.
2008-04-24 21:16:09
322.   bhsportsguy
I felt we would have been better off if Ethier had somehow avoided that pitch.
2008-04-24 21:16:21
323.   Hallux Valgus
316 that should be on Sweeney's business card. The official motto of Mark Sweeney:

Not Deep or Hard Enough.

2008-04-24 21:17:07
324.   Vishal
319 hu else!
2008-04-24 21:17:32
325.   Vishal
323 that sounds racy.
2008-04-24 21:17:32
326.   bhsportsguy
320 He's already referenced Gertrude Stein, Toots Shor and The Man From La Mancha.
2008-04-24 21:17:34
327.   Hallux Valgus
323 Oh man, I could make way better joke than that. dang it. never mind
2008-04-24 21:18:09
328.   Hallux Valgus
322 funny, I immediately thought the same thing.
2008-04-24 21:18:14
329.   Bob Timmermann
At least Jack Billingham is a former Dodger.
2008-04-24 21:19:23
330.   Hallux Valgus
325 yep. That was it!
2008-04-24 21:19:54
331.   El Lay Dave
319 DeWitt. Oh, wait.
2008-04-24 21:21:25
332.   Greg Brock
319 LOL.
2008-04-24 21:23:53
333.   Vishal
micah owings is probably a better bat to have off the bench than mark sweeney.
2008-04-24 21:24:16
334.   Bob Timmermann
Tony Clark was pinch run for by Greg Maddux. You know you're slow when they pick 41-year old pitchers to run for you.
2008-04-24 21:26:17
335.   KAYVMON
304 Really? I thought that was a real good slider. And my friends say Im harsh because I think Megan Fox is only an 8.
2008-04-24 21:28:49
336.   Vishal
poor delwyn young.

dude OPSed 1.064 last year (albeit in 34 at-bats), and not only is he the last guy off the bench, he can't even give anyone a night off.

2008-04-24 21:28:57
337.   Daniel Zappala
Let's get two men on for the Nomar homer.
2008-04-24 21:29:01
338.   Hallux Valgus
335 That at bat was bad. He waved at 3 pitches without swinging hard at any of them. Strike 3 was a good pitch, but 1and 2 were pretty ordinary looking. He looked bad, bad, and awful swinging at them, respectively.
2008-04-24 21:29:32
339.   El Lay Dave
334 Lincecum threw 121 pitches tonight. Bochy turned into Dusty?
2008-04-24 21:30:07
340.   underdog
336 Indeed. Though in the at bats he's had so far, he's looked pretty lost. Of course, that could be all the rust he has from not getting many at bats. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'd like to see them give him a start sometime soon.
2008-04-24 21:30:16
341.   El Lay Dave
Vin has told me in the past that leadoff walks lead to good things.
2008-04-24 21:30:54
342.   underdog
Andruw's having a Saito-like at bat here.
2008-04-24 21:30:58
343.   KG16
339 - how far did he go, how many strike outs, hits, walks, and runs?
2008-04-24 21:31:19
344.   Vishal
339 120 is the new 140
2008-04-24 21:31:39
345.   Bluebleeder87

He could have kept Billz in there, I don't know...

2008-04-24 21:32:08
346.   Jacob Burch
Tim made tickets to his next home start very, very cheap.
2008-04-24 21:32:31
347.   JT Dutch
... Wow, WHAT a lucky break for the Dodgers.
2008-04-24 21:32:39
348.   Jacob Burch
Now that is luck!
2008-04-24 21:32:40
349.   Hallux Valgus
2008-04-24 21:32:47
350.   trainwreck
Gameday is beyond terrible. I have no idea what is going on.
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2008-04-24 21:32:54
351.   Bluebleeder87
oh man, this is a golden opportunity!
2008-04-24 21:33:04
352.   Sam in SC
once again, sometimes 'tis better to be lucky than good
2008-04-24 21:33:05
353.   El Lay Dave
343 6 1/3, 4 H, 5 BB, 9 K. He's the pitcher of record in a 1-0 game.
2008-04-24 21:33:22
354.   Bob Timmermann
If Furcal hadn't been wearing a helmet, he would have been lucky to stagger back to second.
2008-04-24 21:33:22
355.   underdog
Yay! A glorious break!

I'm flabbergasted - the DBacks actually made a defensive mistake tonight! Shocked.

2008-04-24 21:33:27
356.   Vishal
what happened??
2008-04-24 21:33:32
357.   Greg Brock
Dear lord, Rip Torn is one of my all time favorites.
2008-04-24 21:33:36
358.   Sam in SC
350 in their defense, that last play was just difficult to describe
2008-04-24 21:34:14
359.   Sam in SC
did that bounce?
2008-04-24 21:34:15
360.   JT Dutch
... No catch???
2008-04-24 21:34:19
361.   Bluebleeder87
I don't think he cought it Vinnie
2008-04-24 21:34:20
362.   Bob Timmermann
Ground ball to Qualls, Furcal is trapped off second, throw to Reynolds, Reynolds throw bounces off of Furcal's head and people are safe at second and third.
2008-04-24 21:34:29
363.   Greg Brock
That wasn't a catch! Trap!
2008-04-24 21:34:32
364.   underdog
Train: Furcal at 2nd with one out, Nomar grounds to pitcher, they had Furcal in a run down, the thirdbaseman then throws the ball at Raffy and it caroms into the outfield. Now 2nd and 3rd and 1 out for the Dodgers. Kent up.
2008-04-24 21:35:02
365.   Hallux Valgus
350 hard chopper back to the pitcher, pitcher sees Furcal going, throws to 3rd, Furcal heads back to second, 3rd banks a throw off Furcal's helmet, everyone advances, everyone safe. That'd be tough for gameday
2008-04-24 21:35:14
366.   underdog
I was wondering how Furcal came in to score on that shallow fly, but Young trapped it. Thankyouverymuch.
2008-04-24 21:35:21
367.   trainwreck
Woo hoo!

Thank you.

2008-04-24 21:35:30
368.   Hallux Valgus
yes, what those other guys said
2008-04-24 21:35:34
369.   Sam in SC
362 ok, maybe not so difficult.
2008-04-24 21:35:44
370.   underdog
The umps consulted with Greg Brock and made the right call.
2008-04-24 21:35:45
371.   scareduck
2008-04-24 21:36:13
372.   trainwreck
Thank you, as well.
2008-04-24 21:36:28
373.   underdog
Why on earth did I think I'd be faster than Bob Timmermann?

Oh well, at least I beat Hallux. ;-)

2008-04-24 21:36:30
374.   Bob Timmermann
Even if Young had caught the ball, Furcal would have scored pretty easily because Young was not in a position to throw after the catch/trap.
2008-04-24 21:37:23
375.   Bob Timmermann
And yet I only scored 63 wpm.
2008-04-24 21:37:24
376.   ucladodger
Thats just being anxious by James. He's up 1-0 in the count and thats a pitch he cant do anything with. Just bad situational hitting all around tonight.
2008-04-24 21:37:42
377.   Hallux Valgus
what a weird inning. This is why I love baseball. And hate baseball when it doesn't work for my team.
2008-04-24 21:38:34
378.   Vishal
377 yes.
2008-04-24 21:38:48
379.   underdog
357 You scared me into thinking that Rip Torn had kicked the bucket!

Artie: "You'll have to forgive Hank. His heart's in the right place but he keeps his brain in a box at home."

2008-04-24 21:39:54
380.   underdog
Will we see the debut of Cory Wade tonight? Or will Brox or Saito come back in?
2008-04-24 21:40:31
381.   Bluebleeder87
So watch Proctor throw Reynolds a balloon mistake curve & Reynolds parks it! ahhh!!!!
2008-04-24 21:40:37
382.   El Lay Dave
380 EDSP for two?
2008-04-24 21:41:39
383.   Hallux Valgus
he looked definitely off the bag
2008-04-24 21:41:39
384.   tjdub
Yankees lose. Thhhhe Yankees lose.
2008-04-24 21:41:56
385.   Bluebleeder87
easier there cowboy...
2008-04-24 21:42:01
386.   underdog
Um, what?
2008-04-24 21:42:01
387.   Sam in SC
oh, for . . . how often do they call that on the front end of what was going to be a double play?
2008-04-24 21:42:11
388.   JT Dutch
... "That's fertilizer!" I love Vin.
2008-04-24 21:42:31
389.   Jacob Burch
For such a short series, we are getting some serious classic Vin. "That's fertilizer, he says."
2008-04-24 21:42:51
390.   tjdub
Way to keep it clean for the kids Vin!
2008-04-24 21:43:02
391.   JT Dutch
... And of course it was a terrible call by an umpire who apparently wants to be the STAR of the show.
2008-04-24 21:43:11
392.   Bluebleeder87
that's one of those "neighborhood plays no"? damn dude Upton is up, yikes.
2008-04-24 21:43:27
393.   bhsportsguy
Whatever happened to the phantom touch on second?
2008-04-24 21:43:37
394.   ucladodger
And thats an umpire who wants to be the center of attention. You cannot make that call there. He's trying to turn a dp and not get killed, and it wasnt as if he were a yard from the base. This is why umpires should have to face the media after games and be punished for stupid crap like that.
2008-04-24 21:43:40
395.   Bob Timmermann
Looks like Jeff Kent needs to take to City Planning and get a new Neighborhood Plan for second base.
Perhaps he would have had better luck if he had planted a green necklace around second base.
2008-04-24 21:43:45
396.   underdog
Kent just said a couple of rule 1 violations. Or he said "fertilzer' and "messed up" according to Vin.

That sure looked like an awful call. Even if his foot slightly came off too early, umps almost always give infielders that call. Why now, ump?

2008-04-24 21:43:54
397.   Hallux Valgus
upon further review, it was horribly close, but you would think that an mlb 2nd baseman would get the benefit of the doubt
2008-04-24 21:44:31
398.   underdog
I don't blame Kent. That was really a load of fertilizer.
2008-04-24 21:45:09
399.   underdog
I think I need to swallow a few green necklaces and go to bed.
2008-04-24 21:45:21
400.   Bluebleeder87
I agree with everybody.

the world doesn't revolve around you blue!

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2008-04-24 21:45:40
401.   Hallux Valgus
like I said- this is not some epically played contest.
2008-04-24 21:45:40
402.   underdog
Kind of a wacky game, indeed, Vin.
That's an understatement.


2008-04-24 21:45:55
403.   ucladodger

Nobody makes that call. Nobody. You only see it if it is plainly obvious or the umpire wants to be noticed. This was a case of the later. You dont even see umpires make that call in high scool, let alone the majors.

2008-04-24 21:45:58
404.   Sam in SC
we've seen just about everything but a balk tonight.
2008-04-24 21:46:00
405.   jtrichey
I think that call was fertilizer. To make that call, he needs to be obviously off the bag. I think he actually was still in contact with the bag there. If I were Vin I would say, "I hope that doesn't come back to bite us in the posterior."
2008-04-24 21:46:23
406.   underdog
Don't these teams know that Lost is on in 15 minutes?
2008-04-24 21:46:58
407.   scareduck
Jeff Kent is thinking about motocrossing over the second base umpire's head.
2008-04-24 21:47:07
408.   Hallux Valgus
399 not the ones Icaros and I were talking about. I'm with you, though. I'm getting pissy and I have fun stuff on Tivo.
2008-04-24 21:47:08
409.   underdog
Darnit. One cheap run deserves another I suppose.
2008-04-24 21:47:18
410.   ucladodger
I really hope after the game Kent and Torre rip that umpire to shreds. He deserves to be called out for that garbage.
2008-04-24 21:48:01
411.   Bluebleeder87
if anything at least we're showing the Snakes we're a team to be wrecking with. I like how we tattooed there "Ace" yesterday too.
2008-04-24 21:48:22
412.   underdog
408 - Ew.

This game is too weird to have a conclusion tonight. They need to make it a two-parter, bring some good writers in, give it a slam bang ending. Maybe finish it during May sweeps.

2008-04-24 21:48:35
413.   scareduck
These "Just for Men" ads with the little girls are the creepiest thing on TV, bar none.
2008-04-24 21:48:55
414.   Hallux Valgus
403 That is just not true. I've seen plenty of major league umpires make that call in favor of the fielder.
2008-04-24 21:49:58
415.   Brent Knapp
Beimel's hair looks like its getting long again, isn't it? I thought Torre makes him keep it short.
2008-04-24 21:51:19
416.   Hallux Valgus
412 Those never work. We'll get an ending like Jericho.
2008-04-24 21:52:04
417.   El Lay Dave
414 I think you two are in violent agreement.
2008-04-24 21:52:09
418.   tjdub
413 Have a heart. They just want a new Mommy
2008-04-24 21:52:24
419.   Bob Timmermann
Those girls are way too young to think that their father has been single too long. Their mom either had to be the worst one in recorded history or the dad is a modern day Ben Cartwright and the father was married twice and each wife died soon after giving birth to each child.

I think the latter explanation is the most likely.

2008-04-24 21:53:56
420.   Vishal
419 bob with the bonanza reference.
2008-04-24 21:53:59
421.   scareduck
That was a swing.
2008-04-24 21:54:14
422.   tjdub
419 They could be from small town Texas...
2008-04-24 21:54:56
423.   Bluebleeder87
I like the passion Beimel shows.
2008-04-24 21:57:03
424.   dianagramr
The Giants have just escaped last place in the NL West, at the expense of the Padres.
2008-04-24 21:57:06
425.   bhsportsguy
419 If Adam, Hoss or Little Joe ever had a girl in the first 15 minutes, you knew that she was destined to either die from some tragic disease, realize that she doesn't love them or find her true love by the last 10 minutes.

Their girlfriends were like the guys who landed on planets wearing a different color shirt from the rest of the landing party, destined not to last too long.

2008-04-24 21:57:16
426.   Bob Timmermann
Giants win 1-0 in San Diego.
2008-04-24 21:57:56
427.   scareduck
419 - Ah, so he's a sort of Blackbeard, and the two girls are a pair of nine-year-old Electras? Wow, that's warped beyond even my imaginings.
2008-04-24 21:59:16
428.   Hallux Valgus
417 not the way I read it, but I don't care any more. I'm annoyed. Good luck, rest of the game. I hope you do well. I've got Burn Notice to watch. But I want to see Wade.
2008-04-24 21:59:26
429.   Bob Timmermann
The girls don't know that he collects double indemnity each time his wife dies within a month of childbirth.

But only if she falls off a train...

2008-04-24 21:59:34
430.   Vishal
425 the same rule applied to old ben as well.
2008-04-24 22:00:58
431.   scareduck
425 - in which case the Diamondbacks better watch themselves on the way out of the park.
2008-04-24 22:01:26
432.   Frip
Scully saying that Mike the 3rd base umpire "came in and calmed Kent down", is way off the mark. Mike started nearly fingering Kent's chest, which as everyone (except Scully) knows the most aggressive not-striking move you can make a man (ask Charlie Steiner), and in fact reved Kent back up, which is why Kent started cursing "he f--- up the call!"
2008-04-24 22:01:26
433.   Bluebleeder87
all of the Dodgers wanna be heroes & hit a BOMB, but in reality all we need are base runners to get things started.
2008-04-24 22:02:12
434.   bhsportsguy
430 You are too young to be watching Bonanza.
2008-04-24 22:02:23
435.   Sam in SC
I just had an unsettling flashforward. I saw the the lineup card for tomorrow night's game, and juan pierre's name is on it.
2008-04-24 22:03:11
436.   oshea2002
This is getting frustrating - gonna flip to TNT for the last couple min and see if Houston and their choking ex-superstar can pull this off.
2008-04-24 22:03:21
437.   bhsportsguy
434 Though I guess I was your age when I first watching repeats on KTLA on off days from school and work.
2008-04-24 22:03:47
438.   Vishal
429 ok i think this is devolving into an arcane reference urination challenge between rob and bob.
2008-04-24 22:03:48
439.   oshea2002
435 - was just thinking the same thing.
2008-04-24 22:04:10
440.   scareduck
This is Wade too early for him to be pitching.
2008-04-24 22:04:29
441.   Bluebleeder87
so what's the story with this kid? Cory Wade, what's his stuff like & such.
2008-04-24 22:04:49
442.   Jacob Burch
and Mr.Wade wears my DT Uniform #.

Immediately my new favorite player

2008-04-24 22:05:34
443.   Bluebleeder87
lay it on 'em Kent, let it all out, it's healthier that way.
2008-04-24 22:05:41
444.   scareduck
Kent has that smile he gets when he's talking a blue streak.
2008-04-24 22:06:07
445.   brookster1967
Wow....Kent gets a lot of rope.
2008-04-24 22:06:12
446.   Sam in SC
torre probably thinks that it is time for pierre to get a start anyway . . . but kemp isn't helping his cause tonight.
2008-04-24 22:06:13
447.   Bob Timmermann
Since I just had a physical that included a urinalysis, I'm willing to get into a urination contest with anyone.
2008-04-24 22:06:14
448.   Branch Rickey
"messed up the call"? Well, it was something like that.
2008-04-24 22:06:31
449.   Sam in SC
and kent gets the hook.
2008-04-24 22:06:48
450.   Bluebleeder87
2 for 1 baby.
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2008-04-24 22:06:56
451.   tjdub
Eventually Wade will get to debut
2008-04-24 22:07:15
452.   Bluebleeder87
That reminds me of the Tommy Lasorda era no guys?
2008-04-24 22:07:45
453.   JT Dutch
... Good. I'm SO glad the umpire got to be the star of the show. Maybe he'll get a commercial deal or something.
2008-04-24 22:08:23
454.   Bluebleeder87
Wade likes wearing his Uni an extra size or 2 bigger.
2008-04-24 22:08:36
455.   Vishal
434 shows i watched regularly growing up in the 80s/90s:

three's company
golden girls

though, three's co. and bonanza were of course in reruns. bonanza was on KDOC 56 for me, but i think that's an orange county channel.

anyway, looking at that list, i'm sure it won't surprise anyone that my father is turning 80 on saturday. :)

2008-04-24 22:08:55
456.   Bob Timmermann
That could have also been the only size jersey available.
2008-04-24 22:09:02
457.   scareduck
438 - I object! None of Bonanza, Electra, or Blackbeard -- oops, I meant Bluebeard -- are obscure references.
2008-04-24 22:09:22
458.   blue22
Here are some words that rhyme with Cory: gory...story...allegory. Let's see what's in the newspaper today.

LA can blame the ump all they want, they lost this game when they couldn't do anything with the junk that Gonzalez was throwing up there through the first 6.

2008-04-24 22:10:05
459.   Bob Timmermann
Cory Wade has a reverse Reggie Cleveland thing going.
2008-04-24 22:10:13
460.   scareduck
447 - I just passed my urine test. I had some, apparently.
2008-04-24 22:10:27
461.   El Lay Dave
I thought the 2B umpire was saying, "People are people, so why should it be you and I should get along so awfully?"
2008-04-24 22:11:00
462.   Branch Rickey
Pretty impressive pitching so far. Ranged from 73 MPH curve to 90 MPH fastball mostly good location. Looks great so far.
2008-04-24 22:11:06
463.   alex 7
Wade is a live arm guy, something like Cruz of the DBacks, though obviously not as refined. Big 12-6 curveball, a fastball that moves a bit in the 90 mph range, and a change-up. Not bad for a last mop up guy.

Just struck out young on a good looking breaking pitch.

2008-04-24 22:11:15
464.   bhsportsguy
455 That is a interesting set of shows there. Do you think that you will make any games this year?
2008-04-24 22:11:37
465.   alex 7
umpire is opening up the zone, apparently.
2008-04-24 22:12:05
466.   scareduck
461 - Just Kent Get Enough
2008-04-24 22:12:21
467.   Frip
I didn't think Jeff touched the bag. But someday maybe the production booth will get a clue and realize that slow mo tends to blur the image, and it's easier to tell in regular speed sometimes.

I thought Kent had all sorts of old-school respect for authority.

2008-04-24 22:12:34
468.   Vishal
461 i highly doubt there are many d.mode fans among the ranks of major league umpires.
2008-04-24 22:12:35
469.   alex 7
oooh, and Drew is hit 0-2 adding drama to this thing. Drew stares back for a little while.
2008-04-24 22:12:43
470.   scareduck
463 - Cruz was a pretty crude guy back in the day, too, which was why the Cubs let him go in the first place.
2008-04-24 22:12:53
471.   Greg Brock
Speaking of growing up in LA, I was talking with a friend about weekends, specifically Tom Hatten and the old Popeye cartoons he used to host.

One of the fun old LA things.

2008-04-24 22:13:12
472.   underdog
Lost is on. And this game feels like an episode of Lost, too.

Cory Wade looks pretty impressive to me, even impressive in hitting Stephen Drew.

2008-04-24 22:13:24
473.   Sam in SC
pretty CS right there.
2008-04-24 22:13:48
474.   bhsportsguy
461 No he was saying, Whatever you do, where ever you go, we're going to go through it together, through thick or through thin, whatver we're in, we're going go through it together.
2008-04-24 22:14:20
475.   El Lay Dave
468 But this particular ump is Andy Fletcher.
2008-04-24 22:14:28
476.   underdog
471 - I remember those! They'd also show Tom Slick and George of the Jungle, yah?

Nice play by Martin.

Okay, back the island.

2008-04-24 22:15:02
477.   tjdub
471 Were those the ones on KTLA that featured intermittent cartoons with Tom Slick and Super Chicken?
2008-04-24 22:15:26
478.   bhsportsguy
467 Kent has probably had that call made in his favor dozens and dozens of times in his career.
2008-04-24 22:15:29
479.   underdog
461 Actually he was saying, "I don't want to spread any blasphemous rumors, but I think that this ump has a sick sense of humor."
2008-04-24 22:16:11
480.   Bluebleeder87
I hope Pierre gets on, seriously, & wrecks havoc on the base paths.
2008-04-24 22:16:13
481.   El Lay Dave
471 Nothing will beat Sheriff John and Hobo Kelly. Nothing!
2008-04-24 22:16:15
482.   underdog
I think the DBacks are The Others and the Dodgers need to get off this island.
2008-04-24 22:16:27
483.   Vishal
464 i hope to sometime during the summer. i'll definitely be going to A's games and maybe some dodger/giant tilts up here in phoneco park.

whatever happened to last season's Dodger Thoughts-North™ crew?

2008-04-24 22:16:29
484.   bhsportsguy
476 477 Obviously made a big impression on you.
2008-04-24 22:16:30
485.   Bob Timmermann
I believe that won't go down in the books as a CS however.
2008-04-24 22:16:59
486.   underdog
How does Lyon have "5-7 saves" this season?
2008-04-24 22:17:13
487.   blue22
480 - They're down by two. I don't think you want him running, even if he gets on.
2008-04-24 22:17:26
488.   Branch Rickey
Since when do you actually have to be touching 2nd base on the pivot of an attempted double play in Major League Baseball?
2008-04-24 22:17:30
489.   bhsportsguy
481 Wonderama.
2008-04-24 22:17:34
490.   Bob Timmermann
5 out of 7 save opportunities.
2008-04-24 22:17:44
491.   tjdub
"Tom Slick. Tom Slick.

In the Thunderbolt Grease Slapper once he's on your trail,

He won't stop because he knows there's no such word as 'Danger'

Tom Slick. Tom Slick."

And yet I can barely remember birthdays.

2008-04-24 22:18:12
492.   Bob Timmermann
The Houston-Utah series has finally started!
2008-04-24 22:18:14
493.   Greg Brock
Now I know why Josh Holloway isn't a big action star. He runs like a girl.
2008-04-24 22:18:34
494.   underdog
483 The crew was traded for some veterans.

No, we should try another one this July when the Dodgers come here. There are more folks interested now. I'm sure we could twist Icaros' arm even if he still thinks I'm a jinx.

Way to go, Slappy McPopup!

2008-04-24 22:18:35
495.   blue22
486 - It's a range. Who has time to count these things these days?
2008-04-24 22:19:08
496.   trainwreck
There should be.
2008-04-24 22:19:20
497.   El Lay Dave
489 Kids are people too, wacka-doo, wacka-doo, wacka-doo.
2008-04-24 22:20:00
498.   underdog
This may be a 3 hour game but it feels like 6 hours. And if it wasn't for chatting here I would feel like I wasted my night watching any of it. But it was all in good fun.
2008-04-24 22:20:00
499.   trainwreck
That never stopped Seagal.
2008-04-24 22:20:02
500.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, there's a TV thread somewhere else Brock.
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2008-04-24 22:20:40
501.   Vishal
479 brilliant.
2008-04-24 22:20:44
502.   bhsportsguy
497 I thought New York was so cool.
2008-04-24 22:20:51
503.   Sam in SC
485 indeed, it did not.
2008-04-24 22:22:03
504.   Greg Brock
500 I'm not watching television. Josh Holloway just ran past my house.
2008-04-24 22:22:26
505.   Sam in SC
ugh. 'night, all.
2008-04-24 22:22:26
506.   scareduck
They're yelling, "'druw"!


2008-04-24 22:22:38
507.   oshea2002
Nice win for the Rockets.
2008-04-24 22:22:51
508.   Marty
Who remembers Winky-Dink?
2008-04-24 22:23:16
509.   underdog
That was a stupid game. Game? You're fired. Don't come back here.

Let's sweep the Rockies, is all I can say.

'Night all.

2008-04-24 22:23:23
510.   JT Dutch
... Wow. Two times the Dodgers came back to tie, yet they continued to let the game get away from them time after time with inconsistent pitching, suspect defense, and a terrible call thrown in for good measure.

And nothing says "I give up" like sending Pierre out to lead off the 9th down by two. Then, a meek popout by joggin' Andruw Jones to end it.

This seems like it will be the quintessential loss of the 2008 Dodgers.

2008-04-24 22:25:38
511.   blue22
Hey, they didn't get swept!
2008-04-24 22:26:30
512.   LAT
This was a shame. Dodgers could/should have won this game. Kemp killed us tonight. Missed ball in OF. K with bases loaded. Loney didn't help. On the other hand Raffy and Nomar is locked in.
2008-04-24 22:28:11
513.   Vishal
494 all right, just let me know.

510 quintessential seems like the right word and yet not. i agree with the underlying sentiment, though.

it's like we're just good enough to lose.

2008-04-24 22:28:34
514.   neuroboy002
Andruw goes 1 for 5 and raises his batting average. Pitiful.
2008-04-24 22:29:05
515.   Vishal
512 can we lock nomar out again? :)
2008-04-24 22:33:44
516.   scareduck
508 - Jerry Falwell?
2008-04-24 22:37:50
517.   Frip
If Kent's too old to bother touching the base that's not the umps fault.

K. Kennedy couldn't be a bigger brown nose with vets like Kent.

2008-04-24 22:42:40
518.   Icaros
I'm down for another DT North gathering. I've accepted the fact that underdog is a jinx, so it doesn't hurt anymore. I do not want to sit in the bleachers again, however.
2008-04-24 22:47:13
519.   ucladodger

you are way way way off base on that one. Jeff Kent did what every other second baseman has done in major league baseball. He wasn't turning a DP, the ball wasn't offline, and it is accepted to do what he did. He was avoiding the runner but wasn't so ridiculously far off of the base that the umpire had to call it. That play isnt calle d at any level of competitive baseball, and Kent, torre, Kennedy were all right and the umpire was dead wrong.

2008-04-24 22:49:39
520.   Greg Brock
BH and I will be at the game tomorrow, should anybody else be making their way to the Ravine.

It's Joe Torre bobblehead night!

2008-04-24 22:52:30
521.   LAT
Am I the only person who would rather see DS torn down and a new Stadium (cap. 46K or so) built near Staples?
2008-04-24 22:57:28
522.   LAT
I love you Vinny but the way you are shilling in the video for this new stadium plan is killing me.
2008-04-24 22:59:35
523.   Jon Weisman
521 - Not judging by today's comments. But at this point, it's kind of like asking if you're the only one who wants to go up in a spaceship to the moon. I don't suspect it's happening.

New post up top.

2008-04-24 22:59:40
524.   Vishal
521 yes.
2008-04-24 23:00:03
525.   Vishal
(well, no, but i would guess it's a minority view)
2008-04-24 23:16:23
526.   Louis in SF

Another Nor Cal gathering would be great, Dodgers don't get up here until July, might be fun to go to an A's game....Right now I am not getting enough pleasure from the Giants being a bad team, but sadly in the standings Dodgers are neck and neck with them....It will change and Dodgers should start to hit more consistantly and the separation from the Giants should follow.

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