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SportsTalk Sunday
2008-05-04 16:03
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Just a reminder: I'll be on KABC 790 AM with host Ken Levine and Steve Lyons tonight from 7 to 10 p.m., hoping to channel my inner Wolfman Jack without sacrificing my inner, well, whatever this is. Tommy Davis is scheduled as a guest during the first hour. And if I have any say in it, the answer to the trivia question will be Pedro Astacio.

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2008-05-04 16:11:39
1.   Greg Brock
Will you take requests?
2008-05-04 16:18:41
2.   old dodger fan
D'Backs bullpen had not given up a run in the last 21 innings (pretty impressive) but they have given up 3 today. Mets lead 5-2 in the 9th.
2008-05-04 16:19:22
3.   Linkmeister
Wolfman Jack? Sheesh, who's next? Murray the K?

Jon, you're not old enough to remember either!

2008-05-04 16:20:33
4.   Jon Weisman
3 - Sure I am!
2008-05-04 16:25:42
5.   Bluebleeder87
right on Jon! I'll definitely be tunning in.
2008-05-04 16:35:46
6.   underdog
Is it listen-able online? I'll try to check in at some point later in the show. Good luck!

And good news re the Dbacks game. Not losing a game today would be swell.

2008-05-04 17:36:11
7.   BlueCrew Bruin
6 I think it should be available on kabc.com.
2008-05-04 17:48:48
8.   al bundy
I was at the aaa game last night in Round Rock with Las Vegas. Diamond Leung was correct - LaRoche didn't play. He was announced as a starter but didn't see any action. He left the dugout in the 2nd inning or so, presumably to get treatment.

However, LaRoche was used as a PH on Sunday and hit into a GIDP.

The Las Vegas 3b until now has been Terry Tiffee and he's stroking the ball just unbelievably. He's 29 years old though. He looked great on Saturday and you can't chalk that up to the Las Vegas air.

I'm going to try to get out to the ballpark on Monday to see the last game with Las Vegas. It's a Noon start. Hopefully LaRoche will be in the starting line-up. Anyway it's $1 hot dog and soda day, so who can pass that up?

2008-05-04 18:20:30
9.   Reddog
I was talking about LaRoche with a friend of mine who is a former pitcher and very knowledgeable about baseball. He made the comment that there are certain players who do great in the minors, but just can't cut it in the majors. There is a term he used to describe this type of player, but I forgot what it was.

For whatever reason, even given several chances they can't come close to replicating their minor league performance at the big league level. He said that LaRoche looks like he is one of those players.

2008-05-04 18:21:31
10.   Bluebleeder87
watching the ESPN game & the broadcasters mentioned a few minutes ago that Gagne had another blown save, here his #'s so far for the year:

W - 1
L - 2
ERA+ - 80
ERA - 5.27
WHIP - 1.463
SAVES - 9
IP - 13.7
K's 17 (he is still striking out guys though!?!?)
Walks - 7 (not good...)

man I'm telling you, this game can humble you.

2008-05-04 18:24:47
11.   Greg Brock
9 Andy LaRoche has 93 major league at bats.
2008-05-04 18:28:20
12.   D4P
11
And Andy LaRoche was injured during many (if not most) of them.
2008-05-04 18:28:40
13.   Bluebleeder87
9

I love your comments RedDog but I just don't buy that, sure La Roche looked over matched at times last year (remember Beltre?) but the dude has talent HE JUST NEEDS TO STAY HEALTHY for a year to REALLY SEE WHAT WE HAVE...

I ain't gonna judge La Roche until I see a FULL YEAR OUT OF HIM, but that's just me.

2008-05-04 18:30:05
14.   68elcamino427
[9, 11]
This is the kind of talk that makes it all the more interesting as the players fight on in their quests to prove themselves and earn the big money. I have had someone tell me the same thing. It's not what's been done or not done yet, it's just things that they see.
2008-05-04 18:31:09
15.   Bruce Markusen
What is Tommy Davis up to these days? He was one of my favorite players.

If anybody hears the interview with him and can summarize what he says, I'd love to hear about it.

2008-05-04 18:31:41
16.   68elcamino427
13
That's the only way that we'll know. Sometimes it takes even longer than one year.
2008-05-04 18:36:34
17.   Marty
This crowd would have given up on Willie Mays.
2008-05-04 18:37:17
18.   Gen3Blue
Though I was LATed on this I feel strongly that if he is healthy, Laroche will be one of our most solid OPB players, along with Ethier. Those two played everyday could really take down opposing pitchers.
2008-05-04 18:38:01
19.   Gen3Blue
Make that OBP!
2008-05-04 18:40:26
20.   Greg Brock
18 Imagine if Ethier and LaRoche played every day in front of a Matt Kemp that played every day. That would be really nice.
2008-05-04 18:41:59
21.   D4P
20
Hey...the Dodgers have a Matt Kemp...!
2008-05-04 18:44:18
22.   Marty
My local liquor store sells something called Bud Light and Clamato Juice. In a can. It's enough to make you stop drinking.
2008-05-04 18:46:44
23.   Greg Brock
22 A friend of mine bought one of those and brought it to a poker game. It's disgusting.

They have to be filling a niche of some sort. People born without taste buds, perhaps.

2008-05-04 18:48:15
24.   Bluebleeder87
20

Let me close my eyes & try & imagine that... yeah-yeah I see what your saying Brock...

2008-05-04 18:48:52
25.   D4P
Beer is generally for people born without taste buds.
2008-05-04 18:49:18
26.   imperabo
I don't put Ethier in same class as Kemp or LaRoche in terms of potential. He's pretty much an average corner outfielder, not that there's anything wrong with that. He just has to hit the ball perfectly to hit it out of the park. LaRoche and Kemp can rake.
2008-05-04 18:49:30
27.   underdog
17 "He's erratic! And those basket catches shows he has a lot to learn. I wish his average was higher, too. Seems like he could be injury-prone."--Giants Blog (if there were such a thing back then), 1952.
2008-05-04 18:52:10
28.   Bluebleeder87
but seriously, is Jon driving to the radio station or is he gonna do the show at his house? how does it work...
2008-05-04 18:54:05
29.   Greg Brock
26 I'd like to know the Dodgers corner outfield production over the past five years*. I bet it isn't average.

*I'm not going to look for it.

2008-05-04 18:55:19
30.   Bluebleeder87
26

When I saw him swing the bat (Jax.tv a few years ago) I got goose bumps... he has that really nice strong swing (to me it kind of reminds me of Lieberthals swing) I just hope he can string-up a healthy year to see what we really have.

2008-05-04 18:59:09
31.   Bluebleeder87
29

One of the Eric's is really good with that stuff (I think it's Enders) hopefully he reads this & tells us.

2008-05-04 18:59:51
32.   underdog
Ethier is above average for a corner outfielder. Kemp is just even more above average. Neither of them would be welcome in Lake Woebegone.

---

Good to see Greg Miller get his first win of the season for Vegas today, pitching one shutout inning. Orenduff started and pitched really well, 7ip, 1 hit, 8 Ks. Yhency B pitched a scoreless inning with a K, as well.

2008-05-04 19:00:06
33.   Sam DC
28 Just from the two posts, I'm thinking that this is an in-studio thing. Three hours and trying to make funny with Ken Levine sort of calls for that I'd say.
2008-05-04 19:00:35
34.   Sam DC
22 In one can together?
2008-05-04 19:01:54
35.   Bluebleeder87
I think Ethier is a nice 18-23 dinger nice OBP guy, he's not gonna jump out at you as far as #"s go but I think he's a nice complementary LF-RF specially with a guy Like Pierre on our team I rather have Ethier.
2008-05-04 19:02:18
36.   Sam DC
www.kabc.com does have a listen live link.

of course, they are talking about John McCain right now.

2008-05-04 19:03:29
37.   Marty
34 Yep.
2008-05-04 19:03:32
38.   Bluebleeder87
22

Clamato (tomato) juice is good but only on my shrimp cocktails.

2008-05-04 19:04:13
39.   Bluebleeder87
36

I'm getting 70's disco music right now...

2008-05-04 19:05:11
40.   Sam DC
I have Meco -- not Jon.
2008-05-04 19:05:24
41.   Marty
39 Me too
2008-05-04 19:07:39
42.   Marty
OK, it's on now
2008-05-04 19:07:41
43.   Sam DC
"among other things, a blogger"
2008-05-04 19:08:22
44.   Sam DC
Levine is now daring DT readers to call in.
2008-05-04 19:08:26
45.   jasonungar07
A-rod's first 190 AB's were just above current Andruw Jones like. (220/260/350/600ish)

His next 600 he OPS'ed 1.045 and for any old schoolers in the crowd hit .358

2008-05-04 19:08:38
46.   Sam DC
1-800-222-KABC
2008-05-04 19:09:51
47.   Greg Brock
Yay Jon!
2008-05-04 19:10:18
48.   Sam DC
(As an aside, as I sit here in Washington DC having just gotten my kids to sleep in the other room, listening to my friend on local LA radio, the internet is a pretty marvelous step forward in human life.)

(Despite anything Buzz Bissinger might say.)

2008-05-04 19:11:42
49.   Sam DC
Psycho jumping in on Jon five seconds in to his first spoken words!
2008-05-04 19:13:35
50.   Bluebleeder87
Man, what DT'er is more likely to call in? personally I just like hearing.
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2008-05-04 19:14:25
51.   Bluebleeder87
44

some of us aren't word smiths to call in...

2008-05-04 19:15:11
52.   underdog
49 - Psycho as in Steve Lyons, or as in an actual psychopath?

I can't listen right now because my g/f is watching tv, my headphones are in the other room, I have a cat in my lap, and other excuses.

2008-05-04 19:17:03
53.   Sam DC
51 Don't feel pressured or anything, but it's not a wordsmith thing, it's a talk about the Dodgers thing?

Are you ready to see Clay Kershaw at Chavez Ravine? 800-222-5222!

2008-05-04 19:18:50
54.   Bluebleeder87
I've thought about this threw the years & the only thing I can come up with regarding Lyons nickname is that he kind of has a psychotic smile when on t.v. you guys notice that?
2008-05-04 19:31:32
55.   Bluebleeder87
browsing Dodgers Dot Com I see Perez is pitching tomorrow against the boys in blue, he doesn't have a good record right now 2-2 with a slightly above 4 ERA.
2008-05-04 19:41:23
56.   DXMachina
55 - On the other hand, Perez only went 1 2/3 in his last start, so he should be well rested. :)
2008-05-04 19:42:47
57.   Indiana Jon
22 I will be trying one of those immediately, as soon as I can find one. Anything that sounds that bad must have something going for it to ever even make it to the shelves. I can't wait to try it!
2008-05-04 19:43:23
58.   Greg Brock
Any folks planning on calling in?
2008-05-04 19:45:52
59.   regfairfield
I thought the Chelada was surprisingly good actually. Two bad tastes that are bearable together.
2008-05-04 19:46:13
60.   Sam DC
I got a good question saved up about what kind of pajamas work best for blogging and whether there's room in the business for guys who sleep in their shorts.
2008-05-04 19:51:55
61.   Indiana Jon
58 How does it work? Do they take call ins after the guest leaves?
2008-05-04 19:53:01
62.   JT Dutch
17

... If we had Willie Mays in 1950, Ned Colletti would have traded him to the A's for Sam Chapman.

2008-05-04 19:53:29
63.   Greg Brock
61 You call in and sit on hold until the rapture.
2008-05-04 19:56:22
64.   Sam DC
Bruce -- I came in and out, but I'll say he sounded like he was in a pretty good place.

He thinks there's too many teams in baseball.

Asked about the changes in $$/contracts, he told a funny story about coming off a great year, asking for a bunch of dough, but having to admit that he couldn't really promise to put those numbers up again and being glad for the raise he got. Obviously a gloss on the whole set of issues, but graciously said.

2008-05-04 19:59:37
65.   Jon Weisman
David from Torrance. is currently first in line ...
2008-05-04 20:06:16
66.   Indiana Jon
65 Wow, he can post and talk on the radio at the same time! Bob can't do that.
2008-05-04 20:09:01
67.   Sam DC
One sentence in, David in Torrance is a downright hero.
2008-05-04 20:15:08
68.   Branch Rickey
It's a Steve Lyons filibuster!
2008-05-04 20:16:44
69.   Greg Brock
Pipe down, Psycho.
2008-05-04 20:20:38
70.   Branch Rickey
Listening to this, it's stiking how much Jon lifts the level of analysis of the Dodgers on the radio. Between his knowledge and built in audience of people who clearly understand the team and it's issues, KABC would be crazy not to have him be a regular.
2008-05-04 20:21:21
71.   Indiana Jon
This music they play on the breaks is killing me.
2008-05-04 20:24:22
72.   Disabled List
I really hope, at the very least, Jon pronounces Kuo's name correctly.
2008-05-04 20:25:07
73.   Indiana Jon
72 He pronounced it like Kuo wants him to.
2008-05-04 20:25:59
74.   gpellamjr
Pitch counts are the death of pitchers. That's right, Psycho.
2008-05-04 20:26:39
75.   gpellamjr
Roger Clemens had 18 complete games in 1967?
2008-05-04 20:26:51
76.   bryanf
Sigh. Lyons.
2008-05-04 20:27:15
77.   Bluebleeder87
Ha, Koaiza, that's a good one!
2008-05-04 20:27:31
78.   Disabled List
Lyons is daring us to make fun of him. Ask and ye shall receive, Psycho...
2008-05-04 20:28:35
79.   Greg Brock
He's young! Throw him till he dies! In my day, movies cost a quarter!

--Steve Lyons

2008-05-04 20:28:42
80.   gpellamjr
78 But don't worry about Steve Lyons. He's been knocked down by better than you.
2008-05-04 20:29:02
81.   KG16
74 - he's right, but he doesn't know why
2008-05-04 20:29:34
82.   Indiana Jon
That's it Jon, defend Kuo. You're right!
2008-05-04 20:29:56
83.   Greg Brock
Tom Lasorda overthrew pitchers? I don't believe you.
2008-05-04 20:31:24
84.   Bluebleeder87
Bob would know who was our complete games leader the last 20 years.
2008-05-04 20:32:08
85.   Bluebleeder87
83

Nah, that doesn't sound like Tommy at all...

2008-05-04 20:33:39
86.   Disabled List
In Lyons day, the pitching rubber was 87 feet from home plate, the bases were 164 yards apart, the umpire hit you over the head with the bat before the first pitch and called you a sissy if you complained, AND WE LIKED IT THAT WAY!!!
2008-05-04 20:33:59
87.   gpellamjr
I'm glad I turned this on. There's nothing like hearing Steve Lyons accuse Jon of contradicting himself.

Because Jon wants Kuo to pitch, he is contradicting his view that pitch counts can be beneficial.

2008-05-04 20:34:28
88.   Disabled List
...and he wore an onion on his belt, which was the fashion at the time.
2008-05-04 20:36:01
89.   Greg Brock
By the way, if you're new to the site, I'm not the real guy that played first for the Dodgers. It's an homage.

Yes, an homage.

2008-05-04 20:37:05
90.   Louis in SF
This is the only thing I try to listen to on KABC, living in Nor Cal-watch the Dodgers on Direct TV MLB, but tonight can't seem to make it happen. Does anyone know if KABC is doing something different with its Internet feed tonight?
2008-05-04 20:38:11
91.   gpellamjr
89 Well indefinitely-articulated.
2008-05-04 20:39:02
92.   Branch Rickey
Too bad this is happening on a Sunday night when things are always slow around here. Would be nice to have a deluge of great calls and simultaneous comments... DodgerTalk and DodgerThoughts could be a fun combo.
2008-05-04 20:39:14
93.   bigcpa
I can't believe the hating on Quality Starts. I sent Ken a bunch of literature supporting the QS (at least as superior to Wins)- and the guy is still slagging it.
2008-05-04 20:45:10
94.   bryanf
Jon is great. Steve Lyons is not. It hurts my soul to hear Jon make a good point and then have Steve Lyons go a completely different direction because he likes to hear himself talk.
2008-05-04 20:45:51
95.   Greg Brock
Larry Andersen pitched two thirds of an inning before Wild Thing...If that's what Psycho is talking about.
2008-05-04 20:47:15
96.   Disabled List
Jon has a better broadcast voice than either Lyons or Levine. Yet another way in which blogs are better than traditional media.
2008-05-04 20:49:08
97.   underdog
Unfortunately, the KABC online player didn't work for me so I missed it.

I did, however, get to see one of the funnier recent Simpsons episodes (whatever that's saying). Maybe it's just because I made it to Sundance last year but I thought it was hilarious. "Capturing the Simpsons," Lisa's doc on her family, and Chalmskin Productions, a John C Reilly cameo, plus Jim Jarmusch. No classic, but made me chuckle.

Glad Jon did well, look forward to hearing some of the highlights.

2008-05-04 20:50:10
98.   Bluebleeder87
I'm all for 3 inning saves & letting your best reliever pitch in the most crucial (6 thru 9 inning) situation but it just doesn't work that way anymore. In '88 our best reliever only had 22 saves if I remember correctly.
2008-05-04 20:50:53
99.   bigcpa
Jon- if you're reading this- you gotta ask Lyons about Rally Killers! You just gotta! Tell him a reader put you up to it or something.
2008-05-04 20:51:08
100.   underdog
Anyone want to repeat one of the better exchanges on KABC tonight?
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2008-05-04 20:51:48
101.   Greg Brock
Whether or not we all like Psycho, Ken, or Jon, we can all agree this internet bumper music is splendid.
2008-05-04 20:55:16
102.   Branch Rickey
Have they really run out of Dodger issues to talk about? Having Jon on and talking about the Mets seems like a waste.
2008-05-04 20:56:07
103.   Andrew Shimmin
KABC is only five KiloWatts, not ten.
2008-05-04 20:56:50
104.   Greg Brock
Call in, Shimmin!
2008-05-04 20:57:34
105.   bhsportsguy
101 I live really close to the station so I'm listening with string and tin cans.

Why does Jon always get to talk about middle relievers?

2008-05-04 20:59:53
106.   Greg Brock
105 If I'm the only person that called into the show, I'm going to be very disappointed in all of you.

Like "Mom after you broke the window playing indoor wiffle ball" disappointed.

2008-05-04 21:02:32
107.   Andrew Shimmin
104- Last time I called a radio talk show, I was in high school. That's a streak I'm pretty proud of.
2008-05-04 21:03:39
108.   Jon Weisman
Operator is standing by ...
2008-05-04 21:06:02
109.   Greg Brock
107 Was it NPR? It bet it was NPR.

I've never called in, but it was a chance to talk to Jon Weisman. The Jon Weisman!

2008-05-04 21:07:11
110.   bigcpa
106 I'm calling b.s. You cannot break a window with a wiffle ball.
2008-05-04 21:07:40
111.   Daniel Zappala
Someone needs to call in and ask Jon why the Dodgers never sign a pitcher from Stanford, like Mike Mussina.
2008-05-04 21:08:46
112.   Indiana Jon
I'm not sure why they are so down on the Mets starting pitching. Santana, Martinez (if healthy), Perez, and Maine is a pretty good first four isn't it?
2008-05-04 21:09:35
113.   bigcpa
Nick Esasky- never played for the Cardinals.
2008-05-04 21:10:54
114.   Greg Brock
I remember Nick Esasky because he had vertigo, and that is a very good movie. Kim Novak is gorgeous.
2008-05-04 21:11:57
115.   bryanf
Steve Lyons disagreeing with himself. That is so classic.
2008-05-04 21:12:00
116.   jasonungar07
From the bottom of the yahoo dodger game recap:

Torre said the Dodgers have had the eyes of slumping Andruw Jones examined several times.

"They've checked out OK," Torre said. "We know his problems aren't physical ones and his hitting trouble isn't terminal."

2008-05-04 21:12:44
117.   Indiana Jon
I remember Nick Esasky when he played for the Indianapolis Indians in the old Bush Stadium. He was very popular here. Not as popular as Champ Summers or Razor Shines though.
2008-05-04 21:12:57
118.   bigcpa
Problems with the All Star Game:

1) Mandatory representation from each team
2) Managers naming their own guys as reserves like- oh I don't know- Mike Stanton.
3) This time it counts.

2008-05-04 21:13:29
119.   KingKopitar
Oh man, if you guys are home you have to turn on Versus to watch this Sharks-Stars game. It's game 6, overtime, San Jose has to win or go home. There has been a devastating hit, 2 great goals and an amazing save by each goalie to keep the game going. I'm hyperventilating right now and I don't even care about these teams. Awesome!
2008-05-04 21:14:20
120.   Greg Brock
Nick Esasky also appeared in every pack of cards I ever bought, right along side Larry Parrish and Rance Mulliniks.
2008-05-04 21:15:31
121.   Andrew Shimmin
109- Mr. KFI. And I was breaking the rule he had against kid callers. Because I was a rebel.

The first time I called, I was in middle school--I remember I taped the call (on a cassette tape), and brought it in to school the next day, for boasting purposes. My peers were not impressed.

2008-05-04 21:17:02
122.   Sam DC
119 Flipped over, despite the hour.

This game is off the hook!

2008-05-04 21:17:05
123.   bigcpa
OK so they're reading along!

STEVE... LONG TIME LISTENER- FIRST TIME BLOG QUESTIONER... PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY 3-RUN HOMERS ARE RALLY KILLERS.

2008-05-04 21:18:50
124.   Indiana Jon
120 I would have gladly traded you some of my packs with Max Venable and Alan Trammell for those, just to get some variety.
2008-05-04 21:19:24
125.   Greg Brock
Jon Weisman and Jan Hammer. It's like heaven is a radio show.
2008-05-04 21:19:47
126.   Indiana Jon
119 What channel?
2008-05-04 21:20:45
127.   Bob Timmermann
Off the crossbar!
2008-05-04 21:20:48
128.   KingKopitar
I don't know, it's Versus. I have Charter and it's 78.
2008-05-04 21:21:07
129.   Sam DC
I really hesitate to even make this comment, but is there more than one comment on this blog arguing against mandatory representation in the All Star game?

There are certainly worse sins than exaggeration, but still, what's the point?

(And yes, I like the current rule.)

2008-05-04 21:22:19
130.   fanerman
119 I'm watching it. Overtime just ended. Damn.
2008-05-04 21:22:44
131.   Sam DC
Holy cow (hockey!)
2008-05-04 21:22:52
132.   Bob Timmermann
Versus is channel 267 for me on Time-Warner! Versus uses Bill Patrick. He used to be the other "Patrick" on EPSN with Dan. And now there are no more Patricks on ESPN.
2008-05-04 21:24:07
133.   fanerman
130 Oops that was a typo. That "m" should be an "r."
2008-05-04 21:24:17
134.   Greg Brock
The Dodgers will get an All Star game. Just keep refusing to go over slot in the draft, and Bud will take care of us.
2008-05-04 21:24:34
135.   bhsportsguy
Uniform talk, Jon joins in.
2008-05-04 21:25:10
136.   Bob Timmermann
I would also say that I don't care if the All-Star Game is ever at Dodger Stadium again. It was the second biggest letdown in life after the time. Right after meeting Weird Al Yankovic.
2008-05-04 21:25:49
137.   bigcpa
I'm sure McCourt will get an AS Game for his $500 million. 2013- book it. Imagine the logo with the Green Necklace.
2008-05-04 21:26:11
138.   Sam DC
"after the time"?

Was Morris Day OK?

2008-05-04 21:27:04
139.   Xeifrank
Jon is having trouble getting a word in. Lyons loves to talk. :)
vr, Xei
2008-05-04 21:28:10
140.   Greg Brock
The Orioles hat is legit.
2008-05-04 21:29:25
141.   Greg Brock
138 I almost fell out of my chair. Hilarious, Sam.
2008-05-04 21:29:46
142.   underdog
What about the HatGuy's hat?

(FJM-references-R-Us)

2008-05-04 21:30:00
143.   Greg Brock
BH called in. Hooray!
2008-05-04 21:31:12
144.   Eric Stephen
136
It was the second biggest letdown in life after the time. Right after meeting Weird Al Yankovic

That hurts, Bob.

2008-05-04 21:31:45
145.   Andrew Shimmin
143- I thought that, too, but I think it was D.H.
2008-05-04 21:32:06
146.   MC Safety
No cell phone reception and a dead house phone!

Doh!

2008-05-04 21:33:28
147.   Andrew Shimmin
146- What would you have asked? I'm (grudgingly) willing to call in, but I need a question.
2008-05-04 21:34:27
148.   bhsportsguy
143 Jon, I started laughing when I heard your comment. Not because I thought it was funny, it was just so you. But I also agree with it.

BTW - Sorry if I asked something that was talked about a lot already.

2008-05-04 21:36:13
149.   Andrew Shimmin
Oh, it was the real BH. Huh. You sound younger than I'd have guessed you were.
2008-05-04 21:36:53
150.   bhsportsguy
147 That was my problem, when you call in they ask you what you want to talk about so I had to use the outfield situation since it was the only thing I could think of.

How about third base?

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2008-05-04 21:38:42
151.   Xeifrank
A Bison call from Eric in San Diego.
vr, Xei
2008-05-04 21:39:21
152.   Indiana Jon
Bison! Too funny.
2008-05-04 21:39:40
153.   Andrew Shimmin
150- My thoughts on third base are not nice enough for public discussion.

I think they'd hang up on me, once I started chanting, "ATTICA! ATTICA!"

2008-05-04 21:40:03
154.   bhsportsguy
149 Actually, I'm older than most here.

That is Eric Stephen folks.

2008-05-04 21:40:24
155.   Eric Stephen
I hate my radio voice.
2008-05-04 21:40:37
156.   Xeifrank
Ok, someone needs to call in and ask about Wonder Years!
vr, Xei
2008-05-04 21:40:39
157.   Greg Brock
No, meathooks, he didn't name himself. We just told you. Shake yourself.
2008-05-04 21:40:40
158.   MC Safety
147 I don't know if I would have asked anything. Having just read the last thread, probably some sort of incoherent pro-LaRoche tirade.
2008-05-04 21:41:14
159.   Xeifrank
155. Nice job. Way to subtley bring up the Bison nickname topic. :)
vr, Xei
2008-05-04 21:42:14
160.   Gen3Blue
20 Amen. Sorry for this east coast tendency to fall asleep before mid-night.
2008-05-04 21:42:27
161.   Sam DC
I wanna party with you cowboy.
2008-05-04 21:44:59
162.   Andrew Shimmin
I could shout at Psycho for dissing my D'backs. . .
2008-05-04 21:45:08
163.   bhsportsguy
I want to hear Ken say its Stan from Tacoma, Bob from South Pasadena, Marty from Altadena, Molly from New York.
2008-05-04 21:47:09
164.   Greg Brock
Wow, I've met Jon, BH, and Eric Stephen.

I'm the other one!

2008-05-04 21:47:33
165.   Bob Hendley
117 - Champ Summers was big in Puebla, Mexico in the 1970s.
2008-05-04 21:48:07
166.   Eric Stephen
163
"Hold on, Mr. Meister from Hawaii, we'll get to you after the break."
2008-05-04 21:49:56
167.   Bob Timmermann
Once I heard it was Eric on the phone, I chopped off my hands. I'm typing this with a stylus that I stuck in my mouth.
2008-05-04 21:50:02
168.   bhsportsguy
164 Using some alias from the South Bay indeed. I'm shocked you didn't say you were Alexander Hamilton and demand that Jon be installed as the ruling monarch of all Dodger Talk.
2008-05-04 21:51:23
169.   MC Safety
166 It looks like we've got Indiana Jone....oops read that wrong folks, Jon from Indiana on line one.
2008-05-04 21:51:29
170.   bigcpa
AZ gets way too much love for their rotation. They're 5th in the NL in starter ERA (3.85) to LA's 7th (4.12). Big deal! And I'll take Kuroda over Johnson as a #4 starter thank you.
2008-05-04 21:52:10
171.   Greg Brock
168 If this radio show doesn't highlight the importance of the ruling class, nothing ever will.

Philosopher King for...er...philosopher king!

2008-05-04 21:52:13
172.   Bluebleeder87
155

dude you sounded great what are you talking about, I caught the end of your conversation.

2008-05-04 21:52:49
173.   Eric Stephen
167
First Weird Al, now crushing my dreams. Why, Bob, why???
2008-05-04 21:55:41
174.   bhsportsguy
I think the last time I called in a talkshow was Lakers Line with Larry Barnett to answer a trivia question for tickets, the answer was "The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh." I won the tickets.

My proudest moment was when I called in the Lakers show with Chick Hearn and Chick agreed with me on some point about the team.

2008-05-04 21:56:14
175.   arbfuldodger
Shifty ...I'm still laughing
2008-05-04 21:56:25
176.   GoBears
Ha! Silk! That was my suggestion for Loney last week (or whenever that was). And for the same reason - that he reminds me of Jamaal Wilkes.
2008-05-04 21:57:41
177.   Greg Brock
I'm going to keep listening to the bumper music.
2008-05-04 21:58:34
178.   MC Safety
In other news, Stoke City are playing in the Premier League next year!
2008-05-04 21:59:35
179.   Eric Stephen
177
That was 3 solid hours of quality bumper music. I don't think there was a single break I didn't enjoy.

Compared to the stuff in ESPN Radio when listening online, tonight was a welcome change.

2008-05-04 21:59:55
180.   Bob Timmermann
All hail Derby and its 11 point season!
2008-05-04 22:01:06
181.   bhsportsguy
169 But wasn't it you or El Lay Dave who called the Steve Mason show and gave Pierre his Slappy McPopUp name?
2008-05-04 22:01:15
182.   Indiana Jon
Great job tonight Jon.

You guys have got to be kidding about the music. Please tell me you are kidding.

2008-05-04 22:04:21
183.   Eric Stephen
182
How many 1980s TV theme songs were there? That was outstanding! And I'm not kidding.
2008-05-04 22:07:48
184.   Indiana Jon
183 So many times since coming to this site I have read your opinions and agreed. It was inevitable you would disappoint me soon. Thankfully it was on 80's TV themes and not the Dodgers. You do still prefer Laroche, Ethier, and Kuo over the alternatives I hope.
2008-05-04 22:08:10
185.   fanerman
Triple overtime. Oy vey.
2008-05-04 22:09:48
186.   Eric Stephen
184
Yes, I prefer LaRoche, Ethier, Kuo, etc. It appears our only fight to the death shall be over the 1980s and its music! :)
2008-05-04 22:10:03
187.   MC Safety
180 LOL! Yikes! Poor Rams fans.
2008-05-04 22:11:39
188.   Greg Brock
Derby has been relegated to the MLS.
2008-05-04 22:12:21
189.   MC Safety
183 Please tell me they played the Airwolf theme.
2008-05-04 22:13:30
190.   Andrew Shimmin
Voros McCracken thinks relegation is fantastic.

http://vorosmccracken.com/?p=106

2008-05-04 22:17:15
191.   trainwreck
This is the greatest hockey game I have ever seen.
2008-05-04 22:17:37
192.   underdog
I know things get a little surreal when you get to triple overtime, but did the Sharks analyst have to wink at me when they started off their intermission commentary? Is that a Canadian thing or is he having the onset of a stroke?

This is a fantastic game though. 96 shots on goal which means 94 saves, both keepers are outstanding. It's a shame someone has to lose, but hopefully it's Dallas.

2008-05-04 22:18:45
193.   underdog
180 Garsh, even my Sunday team has more points than Derby, in only 5 games. Of course the level of competition is not quite the same.
2008-05-04 22:23:23
194.   KingKopitar
These things always make me a wreck. This is why playoff hockey is the greatest thing in the entire world. No offense, guys, but I'd rather watch this game between these 2 teams than be in the stands at game 1 of the 1988 world series.
2008-05-04 22:26:26
195.   Andrew Shimmin
Is hockey the one on ice, or the one where the sticks have nets on them?
2008-05-04 22:29:25
196.   Jon Weisman
I Am Shifty.
2008-05-04 22:29:53
197.   Greg Brock
195 I'll be damned if that didn't make me keel over laughing.
2008-05-04 22:30:17
198.   KingKopitar
It's the one that doesn't have "athletes" like David Wells and Juan Pierre.
2008-05-04 22:30:55
199.   Greg Brock
196 Great job tonight, Jon.

The Orioles hat is awesome. And the Astros 80's jersey is off the charts.

2008-05-04 22:35:02
200.   Greg Brock
Every player in this game has to be fifteen pounds lighter than he started.

Insane.

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2008-05-04 22:35:58
201.   LogikReader
194

It's STILL going!!

The best game (or at least most intriguing one) I ever saw in the NHL was the Semifinal round game between the Flyers and Penguins, 8 years ago, and it went five overtimes!

Keith Primeau shot the game winner a good portion into that 5th overtime.

---aaaaaaaaaand just as I write this the Vs guys say the same thing :)

2008-05-04 22:36:44
202.   MC Safety
194 A Kings fan (whom I assume is an LA resident) choosing a pretty much meaningless (in the grand scheme of Kings fandom) Sharks/Stars playoff game over a hometown World Series game is some good old fashioned heat of the moment crazy talk.
2008-05-04 22:37:11
203.   KingKopitar
I'm rolling, leave me alone.
2008-05-04 22:38:09
204.   neuroboy002
Who was runner-up to Eric Gagne when he won the Cy Young award? Boy, did he suck tonight.
2008-05-04 22:38:13
205.   LogikReader
201

By the way, the Vs/Tsn guys are right: this is the 8th anniversary of that game to the day:

http://hockey-reference.com/playoffs/NHL_2000.html

2008-05-04 22:38:41
206.   Bob Hendley
201 - What, they don't end these things with penalty shots? Seems uncivilized.
2008-05-04 22:39:07
207.   underdog
I wonder if the players are allowed to drink lots of caffeinated beverages during breaks?

Wow, that was almost the winning goal right there.

2008-05-04 22:40:37
208.   underdog
101 saves in this game -- so far. Unreal.

Can't imagine making that many saves in a soccer game. Or season, even.

2008-05-04 22:40:50
209.   Bob Timmermann
I think the difference between a hockey playoff game and any extra inning baseball game is that the hockey game will end quite suddenly. With a baseball game, unless it's a walkoff home run on the first pitch of an inning, there's usually buildup to the ending.

The sudden death in hockey is REALLY sudden. Football's isn't all that sudden.

2008-05-04 22:41:32
210.   Eric Stephen
204
Jason Schmidt!
2008-05-04 22:42:28
211.   Bob Timmermann
There were just four pitchers who got Cy Young votes in the NL in 2003:
Eric Gagne
Jason Schmidt
Mark Prior
Russ Ortiz
2008-05-04 22:44:16
212.   Jon Weisman
199 - Thanks. It was fun.
2008-05-04 22:44:17
213.   Bob Timmermann
The 2003 AL Rookie of the Year was Angel Berroa. Rocco Baldelli finished third and Jody Gerut was fourth.
2008-05-04 22:45:15
214.   KingKopitar
When I play goal, I lose about 3 to 4 pounds a game. That's roller hockey, with 15 minute running-time periods. It's insane to think they've played this long.

208 Chicago netminder Nikolai Khabibulin used to drink a pot of coffee before a game until the trainer pointed out who ridiculous it was for someone to drink something that dries you out before playing a sport.

2008-05-04 22:47:53
215.   underdog
Is there any reason why they don't use an overhead cam for TV broadcasts of hockey games like they do for some other sports? (Not that the blimp can fit in there, but one of those mobile overhead cameras...) I feel like I miss a chunk of the action with anything taking place along the near sideboards. Though Comcast SportsNet is probably worse about it.

I don't think I can stay awake for a 4th OT so I hope the Sharks win it here.

2008-05-04 22:48:06
216.   68elcamino427
Hey Shifty! Great job tonight. You could replace that Levine guy.

The Bison lives!
Tougher than a robot made of nails. Kinda like a runaway freight train coming into home.

2008-05-04 22:48:07
217.   bhsportsguy
211 A pox on you for forcing Bob to type Russ Ortiz.
2008-05-04 22:50:37
218.   bhsportsguy
212 Enjoyed the last hour or so I heard. Except for some bonehead caller who apparently asked a question about a topic you talked about already.
2008-05-04 22:50:47
219.   nofatmike
213 The AL Cy Young winner that year was Roy Halladay, with the runner-up, Esteban Loaiza, receiving two first-place votes.
2008-05-04 22:52:53
220.   Bob Timmermann
Although I don't exert myself as much as a hockey goalie, I do drink a lot of coffee and its diuretic effects have never made me dehydrated. Unless you had kidney problems, the bigger issue with drinking all that coffee would be getting sick to your stomach. Or having shaky hands.
2008-05-04 22:54:24
221.   Eric Stephen
218
Your question was still relevant. The previous coverage of the OF topic was specifically regarding how to handle Andruw Jones -- to sit him (and if so, for how long), or to let him play through it.

I liked your call because it allowed all to address all the OFers, rather than just Jones.

2008-05-04 22:55:04
222.   KingKopitar
Maybe it's just me, but if I'm planning on running I don't drink coffee in the morning because it affects me. Also, HOCKEY!!!
2008-05-04 22:57:10
223.   Gagne55
219 The Dodgers have both Cy Young runner ups!!!
2008-05-04 22:57:34
224.   Bob Timmermann
Yeah, I wouldn't drink coffee before going out running (back in the days when I engaged in such activities) because it made me feel funny.

Now I just use coffee to raise my heart rate and count that as aerobic exercise.

2008-05-04 22:57:45
225.   trainwreck
5 hours!
2008-05-04 22:57:54
226.   nofatmike
223 Whoa just realized that.
2008-05-04 22:58:28
227.   bhsportsguy
221 And I let Jon get on his soapbox and say no matter how well Juan Pierre is playing, he is still their 4th outfielder.
2008-05-04 22:59:57
228.   bhsportsguy
I think Bob's rule on Sudden Death Hockey is that the team that scores first wins.
2008-05-04 23:01:34
229.   MC Safety
The recent comments section on Tony Jackson's blog is hilarious.
2008-05-04 23:02:17
230.   trainwreck
226
Finally, a proven Timmermann law.
2008-05-04 23:02:43
231.   Bob Timmermann
First team to have a defenseman make a really stupid pass in his own end loses!
2008-05-04 23:03:48
232.   trainwreck
231
Sharks have done that already.
2008-05-04 23:04:04
233.   Bob Timmermann
229
Are there comments other than spam? Also the RSS feed for Jackson's blog never works right.
2008-05-04 23:06:28
234.   MC Safety
229 Nope, just massive amounts of prescription drug related spam. That is seriously hilarious.
2008-05-04 23:12:41
235.   jasonungar07
This game is insane. 1 goal on 61 shots.
2008-05-04 23:16:06
236.   neuroboy002
210 AHHH, the irony! Schmidty was the runner-up!

What feels worse? Paying Andruw 16M per year to do what he currently does or paying Gagne 10M annually for his work?

Although he costs less, I think Gagne would probably feel like a worse investment because he is not likely to get better - it's not like he is going to find extra life on his fastball. I WOULD like to think Andruw will just start raking, but each strikeout or GIDP kills my hopes.

If Andruw continues his hitting pattern into June, would our outfield be more productive with Ethier-Pierre-Kemp, then using Jones as a 6th or 7th inning defensive replacement? Mike Cameron has more HRs than him in much fewer at bats.

2008-05-04 23:19:27
237.   bigcpa
"That's the plus side to having four guys," Torre said of the group that includes Matt Kemp. "Somebody gets hot, you ride with him and play it out. My job is somewhat easier that way because the other three guys understand who's hot."

Torre needs to read the "Hot Hand" chapter of THE BOOK.

2008-05-04 23:24:48
238.   fanerman
Oy vey.
2008-05-04 23:24:55
239.   Bob Timmermann
And our long national nightmare in Dallas is over.
2008-05-04 23:25:00
240.   trainwreck
Damn!!!!!!!!!!
2008-05-04 23:30:20
241.   imperabo
"Torre needs to read the "Hot Hand" chapter of THE BOOK."

Reading makes his job harder.

2008-05-04 23:49:40
242.   68elcamino427
Furcal, Martin, Kemp, Loney.
It's not that complicated.
2008-05-05 08:41:56
243.   D4P
I love it when Ozzie Guillen makes a {bleep} of himself. Expect a coerced apology sometime this week.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3382020

2008-05-05 08:51:09
244.   ibleedbloo
I posted in the ticket exchange thread, but it doesn't look like there has been much activity over there in the last few weeks, so here it is again. I hope this isn't a Rule 8 violation.

I have up to 4 tickets for every game of the Mets series (5/5 - 5/7) available. $7 each, which includes shipping ($5 for ticket $2 for email shipping). Email amurvine at hotmail dot com.

2008-05-05 08:54:21
245.   madmac
243 That Ozzie sure is a "colorful" chap
2008-05-05 08:59:23
246.   regfairfield
I approve that rant.
2008-05-05 09:05:41
247.   JoeyP
I just noticed that the Cubs sent Rich Hill to AAA rather quickly. He was one of the best lefties in the NL last year. Now, after 4 starts, he's back in AAA and Jon Lieber is in the rotation for the Cubs.
2008-05-05 09:09:55
248.   madmac
see Ozzie just makes you want to talk about the Cubs
2008-05-05 09:11:23
249.   regfairfield
247 See, things could be worse.
2008-05-05 09:20:28
250.   underdog
247 - I wonder if the equivalent for the Dodgers would be if they sent Chad Billingsley down because he's started off 1-4? And if so, how the reaction here would be. Off the charts, probably.

--

Mets fans commenting on a couple of Mets blogs are hoping for and in a couple of cases even assuming they'll sweep in LA. I like their gumption! Let's hope it's just crazy arrogant Mets talk.

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2008-05-05 09:24:58
251.   D4P
Including pitchers and other dudes with few PAs, the Mets have a whopping two players OPSing .800 or higher.

The Dodgers have 7.

2008-05-05 09:25:23
252.   wireroom
My one problem with just sending down Dewitt and handing the job to Laroche is this; I think it sets a bad example to the other minor league players in the system that perceived talent is more important than production. I understand that Laroche has had a small amount of big league at bats and has more potential, but Dewitt has produced in the big leagues and not been injured. In order for the Dodgers to get the best out of their minor leagues, there needs to be a sense of purpose for every player. This is my opinion.
2008-05-05 09:26:23
253.   regfairfield
250 That's a redundancy if I've ever heard one.
2008-05-05 09:27:23
254.   JoeyP
250--There's really no explanation. Hill has thrown 19ip with a 4.12 ERA. He has 18bbs and 15ks.

Still, with a rotation that has Jason Marquis in it, its hard to justifty sending Hill down and having Marquis/Dempster/Lieber/Lilly in the rotation.

It'd be equivalent to sending Bills down, and having Park/Loaiza + 2other PVLs stay in.

2008-05-05 09:29:56
255.   underdog
253 - 'crazy' + 'arrogant' + Mets (fans) = redundant? Yep.
2008-05-05 09:30:57
256.   underdog
There was one Mets fan who said he still hasn't forgiven the Dodgers for winning that playoff series in 1988. 1988! It's not like the Mets haven't had any success since then (and it's not like the Dodgers have had a lot...) Man, I hope they pound those guys this week.
2008-05-05 09:36:17
257.   Ken Noe
252 My concern, made worse by the act of sitting DeWitt for Martin, is that Ned plans to keep LaRoche down for the sake of Nomar, not DeWitt. I'd much prefer to see "DeRoche" fight it out at third while Nomar rides the pine and the former Giant bats under .200 elsewhere.
2008-05-05 09:36:52
258.   regfairfield
252 If Dewitt were tearing the cover off the ball, there might be an argument, but the best thing you can say about him is that he's been adequate in a small sample size.

I hate to keep bringing up Mike Edwards, but remember how good Mike Edwards was in his first 75 plate appearances (.356/.390/.452). Dewitt's line isn't quite as empty, but his lack of power means he's going to be really unproductive if the singles stop falling. He hasn't done enough to keep the better talent from taking the job back.

2008-05-05 09:39:45
259.   Bob Timmermann
258
But what about the gumption? You keep forgetting the gumption.
2008-05-05 09:40:27
260.   Kevin Lewis
The latest FJM article is hilarious. Sometimes I can only get 1/4 of the way through before I am laughing out loud. This is one of those times.
2008-05-05 09:48:25
261.   MC Safety
252 Ugh.

258 Keep bringing up Mike Edwards, please. If you don't I will.

I knew that stupid nickname of his would come back to bite us.

2008-05-05 09:48:50
262.   Jacob L
252 I don't know. I think the message could also be that if you put together a stellar body of work in the minors, you're going to get a shot.
2008-05-05 09:52:45
263.   underdog
259 That's what arrogant crazy Mets fans have. There's only so much gumption to go around. It doesn't grow on trees, you know.

((Insert terrible pun about forest gumption here if desired))

2008-05-05 10:19:55
264.   MC Safety
263 HatGuy must love that line about life being like a box of chocolates.
2008-05-05 10:43:15
265.   KG16
258 - honest question, what do you base the claim that LaRoche is the better talent on?

With the exception of home runs hit in the minors, the career numbers for DeWitt and LaRoche are essentially the same.

This seems to be one of those things that so many are so heavily invested in, they don't really want to acknowledge what the numbers say. And, again, I'll admit to liking DeWitt a bit more, but I'll take either of them at third, if they perform.

2008-05-05 10:44:46
266.   CodyS
The problem with DeWitt is that he is playing right now about as good as he will probably ever play this year, and his bottom line performance is average. He is not providing much competitive advantage for the Dodgers. The other third basemen in the league are Chipper Jones, David Wright, Aramis Ramirez, Garrett Atkins,....
There is roughly a 0% chance Blake DeWitt will be better than any of these guys, or even close to them. LaRoche has at least some chance of being that good (and therefore providing a competitive advantage to the Dodgers).
2008-05-05 10:48:44
267.   fanerman
265 plu
Career Minor League Numbers:
Andy: .293/.374/.521/.895
Blake: .279/.333/.444/.777

Andy last year in Vegas also hit: .309/.399/.589/.988

Blake last year in Jacksonville hit: .281/.306/.466/.772

The difference is power AND patience. And Andy hit for a higher average, too.

2008-05-05 10:51:31
268.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-05-05 11:10:56
269.   Los Longhorns
8 I went to Friday's Vegas game against Round Rock and was shocked to hear LaRoche announced as the starting 3B.

He looked healthy, played the entire game and made a couple of good defensive plays, including one in which he charged a slow hit ball and made an off balance throw to get the runner at first.

On his first AB, he struck out swinging at a ball in the dirt. My memory is fuzzy on the rest of his at bats, but I do remember telling my daughter that we'd be seeing him in the majors in a week or two.

Repko hit the ball hard in a couple of at bats, including a home run well over the left center field wall (>405ft).

2008-05-05 11:44:47
270.   slyons
It was great to meet Jon and be on the Sportstalk Sunday show with him. He obviously writes an informed blog and the people who read it are also well informed. Sorry I talked too much---sometimes I get excited and it is afterall, a radio show. Nice to see I gained a new fan in Bryanf and I'd be happy to answer bigcpa's question about rally killing HR's (not 3 run HR's)
I've never responded to a blog before but Jon was an impressive guy and I wanted to see who he had to deal with on an everyday basis...

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