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I've come upon a blog that is a perfect distraction from tonight's Dodger debacle: Earl Pomerantz: Just Thinking ..., authored by the prolific writer of Mary Tyler Moore, Taxi and the like. Just one rich entry after another.
Here's a sample of Pomerantz's writing for MTM:
TED: I've been reborn, Lou. And all because of a little spider. ... A few days ago, I was sitting on the terrace outside our bedroom when I noticed this spider spinning its web near the screen door patiently, skillfully, lovingly. And then Georgette opened the door and tore the web. And the spider had to build it back up Then a little later someone else opened the door and the spider had to build it back up again and then somebody else .
LOU: Ted could you move it along?
TED: Sure, Lou. You see, I learned something from that little spider, who never gave up, who kept re-building his web over and over and over I learned that life is short and you have to live for today.
MARY: Ted, that's not a "live-for-today" story; it's a "perseverance" story.
TED: It was a "perseverance" story, Mair. But it became a "live-for-today" story when I smacked that spider with my newspaper.
* * *
Now, when Vin says, "In the old days, they'd call it a can of corn," and I remember them doing just that, does that make me old?
Lancaster...1
Inland Empire.....25
I'm openly rooting against him, for that reason, even with two runners in scoring position.
Pretty much have been all season. It's a very strange feeling.
So, they were up by fourteen at that point? Man, that is just harsh.
The Blog was interesting, Jon, but I am still bummed about Ethier.
On another note, does anyone else have Vista Media Center? If so, how have you solved the incorrect guide information for the digital sub channels?
Of course, it feels like the Dodgers wouldn't have scored off Ralph Sampson tonight, or Ralph Wiggum, or Sampson and Delilah, but hope springs eternal.
vr, Xei
It wasn't worth it.
I can't believe that Ethier is out of the lineup again tonight. He won the starting left field job fair and square and did nothing to lose it. Pierre has a few good games and now he's the second coming? Give me a break. He may be nice guy and a hard worker, but he's not half the player Ethier is as far as I'm concerned. Ethier's not even half the player he could be if he got to play every day like he has earned to do about 10 times over since he became a Dodger and he works hard too. So much for Joe Torre saying he didn't want Ethier to be looking over his shoulder and that he was one of the few players that had earned to play every day after he won the starting job.
I've been a Dodger fan for a long, long time, but I am really getting sick of the lack of commitment to fielding the best team possible. The only thing Ethier has done wrong is to not make a lot of money. Maybe he would have been better off to stuff his face the entire off season like Jones apparently did instead of working out twice a day, six days a week with Dustin Pedroia and a group of other MLB players during the off season, as it obviously doesn't count for much. (I couldn't get it to show bold with ateriks, not sure what I did wrong).
Anyway, what a pathetic joke. I think Frank McCourt needs to spend more time focusing on what Colletti is doing to impede the Dodger's progress than trying to turn Dodger Stadium into a theme park. Such a shame to see what is happening. Ethier, Kemp and all the other young players need to play every day for the Dodgers to reach the potential of what they can be with their current talent. I also think it's time to bring Kershaw up. They weren't afraid to pull the trigger on their young talent in the 70's and that's why they were successful.
Also, anyone else notice that Kent was doing a lot better during the games when he was batting fourth and Ethier was 5th behind him? I've always like Ethier best in the 5th position and am not sure why Torre has batted him 2nd so much when he has started. I agree you need more speed than Ethier has in the 2 hole, I just think it would be much better served with some who has speed and power like Martin or Kemp than with someone who only has speed like Pierre.
In regards to McCourt I prefer having an Owner that doesnt try to get involved in the teams on the field decisions such as Steinbrenner.
And he doesn't seem to get many Ks. Yet Gameday has had him at 95 tonight and also at or near that in other games.
So is he now a "contact" pitcher? Even touching 95 or so? Have to give him credit for pitching well lately, whatever he is.
These numbers aren't good enough to keep a job, apparently. Excellent defense is also not enough.
I'm glad the team holds its starting lineup to such high standards.
Or is that going to be too much to ask for?
Not strikeouts, but swings and misses.
Unless that GM is Ned Colletti.
Out of options.
Futile. Next!
http://tinyurl.com/6qvprl
[rimshot]
Welp, night all. A depressing three games after a mostly wonderful 9 game period. Hope they wake up tomorrow.
>> "It's easier to hit in Triple A than Double A," Maza said with teammate Angel Chavez serving as an interpreter. "You see more strikes from pitchers here. In Double A, they want to throw harder." <<
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/18827009.html
Delwyn Young could get his first start at second base in place of Jeff Kent
No, but if you know what the phrase "can of corn" really means, you're old.
Sigh, no, I'm really going to bed now. Early soccer game in the AM, alas. Hopefully we'll score more than the Dodgers did the last 2 games.
>> There are more than two dozen Hall of Famers whose careers either began or ended in the PCL through 1957, including DiMaggio and Ted Williams, and another 100 or so recognizable names, like Maury Wills, Larry Sherry, Albie Pearson and Tommy Lasorda, whose PCL career preceded the Dodgers' arrival by one year. <<
http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_9214021
In that case I'd be surprised. There appears to be a chance Furcal will be held out until Tuesday (Torre says it will be a game time decision). But if Furcal plays I'd expect to see Hu shift over to 2nd base.
Pythagorus/Actual record even at 19-17.
That was funny, poor Ted should have lived for today as life smacked him with a newspaper a little to soon.
I made a bad decision today.
>> "I don't see anything that would make him better than a fourth outfielder," an American League evaluator said. <<
http://tinyurl.com/5mpj7q
Taking George carlin's lead, I think it's very simple why the Dodgers have the feast or famine offense.
1) nobody on this team can hit 35+ home runs. Kemp may eventually do this, but everyone else? Their ceiling is the high 20s, if that.
2) none of our starters have the moxy to be dependable as of now.
3) Juan Pierre gets way too many starts (as predicted before the season) and Ethier doesn't start enough. I also havent been here in a while so I cant figure for the LIFE of me why Raffy sat the last two games. When he scores a run, the Dodgers have a very good chance of winning, statistically.
Other than that, nothing to worry about... but if we falter this season I'll be pretty happy actually, because then we could can Ned. How man signings that turn to junk can one owner take? I mean getting a 0% return three big signings in a row? That's pretty damn amazing if you ask me.
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
No, I just can't say it.
vr, Xei
vr, Xei
1) I'm not sure that 35+ homeruns is as much of a measuring stick in this post-steroids era. I would think that a bunch of guys in the 20s + Kemp would give us a sufficient amount of power.
2) Temporary slump. The Dodgers do have great depth in starting pitching at least. Everyone's talking about Kershaw. McDonald's the one who's already on the 40 man roster.
3) Raffy has a back injury and is day to day. They'd be playing him if they could. Play Ethier!!!! His benchtime is my biggest frustration.
Free agency is always risky and yet fans in general want their teams to spend money to get players.
The people who are booing Jones are similar to me as those who booed Bonds, it is now part of the game experience. I think its wrong but then all I can do at the games is not join in.
When I read this I immediately think of Cool Hand Luke. "I got my mind right boss!"
By the way, is it still too early to panic on the Dodger starting pitching?
After hiring an Enlightened GM, then firing him and going in the exact opposite direction, what kind of GM would McCourt be likely to hire were he to fire Ned?
What will panic get you? Brett Tomko? Mark Hendrickson?
bhsportsguy is the Slate.com of Dodger Thoughts.
I wouldn't let him get a hold of that bat, Ravech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsukSiGcUng
Mine was simple commentary about the dangers of focusing too much on recent events, like, "Oh my god, J.D. Drew is opting out, we must sign Nomar Garciaparra and Juan Pierre stat!"
That being said, Dodger starters are 10-15 with a 4.81 era and a WHIP of 1.48
Those stats look an awful lot like Tomko & Hendrickson to me, and in any event if the Dodgers don't win it will be because of their starting pitching. Widely thought as the strength of their team, it is currently killing the team.
It doesn't mean they have to bring up the kids! It doesn't mean they have to trade for other starting pitching! It doesn't mean they have to do anything!
However, it does mean that the starters have stunk! ANd that most assuredly wasn't expected on March 31st.
I wasn't expecting the starters to be that great on March 31st. Did you know that there are still five months left in the season?
Pierre, LF
Ethier, RF
Kemp, CF
Loney, 1B
Martin, C
DeWitt, 3B
Young, 2B
Hu, SS
Kuroda, P
Then I'm guessing you were not expecting the Dodgers to be great either? Most of what was written about the Dodgers chances in 2008 hinged on their starting pitching unless I read it wrong.
Did you know that there are still five months left in the season?
Sure I do. If the starting pitching improves, I expect the Dodger team as a whole to improve. I was simply pointing out why the team as a whole was struggling up till now. And that the reason they were struggling was mostly unexpected....by some of us anyway.
If it weren't for Kuroda in the lineup, the Dodgers would have a lineup that would have passed muster with the 1964 Berkeley Free Speech protesters.
Billingsley is terrific but raw. In a couple of years with him, Kershaw, McDonald, we may turn into a juggernaut. But for now we are relying on Penny, Lowe, Kuroda, Park...I don't have faith that they are the ticket now.
Torre has settled the team down for the most part, especially in comparison to last year. But he has this thing for Pierre and, at this point, Jones, that I don't get.
Penny and Lowe are the same as always. More often than not pretty good, but sometimes terrible. Billingsley has some great peripherals, but still is having command issues. Kuroda is so far the mediocrity I expected. Our fifth starter is Loaiza/Kuo, neither of whom has been a surprise to me either.
What has happened this season that is so unexpected?
C'mon, you know exactly what the "thing" Torre has for Pierre and Jones is. I'll give you a hint: It starts with 27 and ends with million dollars.
Jones is mercifully benched.
Young gets his first start of the season. Kent has been slumping lately and could use the day off.
Funny how much more optimistic I am with this lineup, even with Kent and Furcal out.
Please Pee Wee. Play halfway decent defense today.
Please Andrea, have a good day and force them to keep you in there.
Enough invocations for today.
137 - I agree the future could be brighter with pitching, though I also think Penny and Lowe will settle down this year. I also don't know if I'd blame Torre fully for having "a thing for Pierre and Jones" when Colletti gave him both those guys with huge contracts, and frankly one of them has to start at least, even if Ethier and Kemp are both in there (I know, I like Pee Wee and others here like Repko, but to be realistic...)
Penny is a great first half pitcher, Lowe is terrific in the clutch in the offseason (alot of help that is), Kuroda's mediocrity is his ceiling, Kuo is terrific until he breaks down, Park is a disaster waiting to happen...
yeah, always says it
Lowe a supposed #2 has a 4.43 era and has failed miserably in his last 3 starts! #2 starters should be more consistent then that! Will he ever step up and be a true #2?
Billingsley's era is approaching 5 and while many expected some bumps, I don't think they expected this.
If this was all they expected from Kuroda, then why spend the money? Certainly there had to be higher expectation (if not from you) then this! Maybe he can keep his own era under 4 today?
I hope today's a better day for Lakers and Dodgers fan than was Friday.
no
no
he's still young
ask Ned
j/k.
You're asking, "Will he ever step up and be a true #1 or #2?"
That means they never have. So why are you surprised that Penny and Lowe still haven't?
Also, I think you confuse "consistent" with thinking a pitcher is going to never get bombed or have a series of lousy starts in a row. They almost all do this. An ERA of 3.50 does not mean a pitcher gives up exactly three-and-a-half runs every nine innings he pitches. Sometimes he gives up zero in nine, then gives up seven over his next nine.
Good god, is it still dark out when you guys start playing?
http://tinyurl.com/3lhgjs
'Minutes later, Gagne took his manager completely off the hook with a pronouncement that was evident to anybody who has watched his work of late.
"I don't deserve that ninth inning right now. It's very simple," said Gagne, who surrendered two ninth-inning runs that allowed St. Louis to pull out a 5-3 victory at Miller Park. '
And I am not confusing consistent. Of course a pitcher can have a bad outing. But in the context of this season, those occasional bad outings should not lead to a cumulative era approaching 5 on a supposed good pitching staff.
The Cardinals-Brewers series may be the first time that the closers on each team lost their jobs in one series.
157 Great, someone even worse than Colletti. I would just start bashing my head against a tree and never stop.
Okay, time for a nap to prep for the afternoon o' sports.
If it isn't your expectation, then I guess I don't understand why you are arguing on its behalf.
The starters have a cumulative ERA approaching 5 in early May. Numbers fluctuate over the course of a season. Up and down. Down and up. You originally stated that it was time to panic, and I don't think that time has come yet.
That is the question.
I wanna watch my D'backs play. . .
If Jones doesn't pick it up, he will only be able to play on the road. The din from the roar of the booing at home is already unbearable and it can get worse.
If 200 at bats is the goal, he should get them at Las Vegas or Jacksonville. Put him on the DL for a bad back or any other excuse and then have him go on an extended rehab assignment. Anyone that can make consistent contact is an improvement now, be it Pierre, Young, LaRoche, or ...
Can the Dodgers continue to put an automatic out in the line-up at this stage of the season?
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