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Based on Value Over Replacement Player, it's Chan Ho Park - despite a strikeout/home run ratio of just over 2:1.
Syesha Mercado deserves to make the American Idol finals ahead of David Archuleta.
In each race, two clear favorites have emerged and are waging close battles for the top spot. I won't post any results until the polls have closed, as to not sway the voting.
And P has appeared on a ballot, yet no posts from D4P.
Damn!
I'm just gonna give the All-Time Faves*:
Fernando
Pedro G.
Sax
Orel
Piazza
Honorable Mention:
Hee-Seop Ch-i
*I don't necessarily have much emotional connection to these players now, but I did when they played.
Broxton: 1.49
Guo: 2.67
Beimel: 2.86
Wade: 3.23
Billingsley: 3.30
Lowe: 3.71
Penny: 3.77
Kuroda: 4.30
Loiaza: 4.64
Park: 5.57
Proctor: 5.75
This list tells a different story.
vr, Xei
Alternately, I should have created a bunch of sockpuppet accounts, and really rigged the poll up good. But that's a lot of work, as opposed to snubbing, which comes effortlessly to me.
I don't think such an event would be funny to many people here. I believe it would be more of ... something I can't adequately describe using G-rated language.
You can probably get away with PG-13
You just wanted to use "tallying" and "whack" in the same sentence!
That's what happens when you leave a stranger in the Alps!
But what about Cate Blanchett?
most despised CGI character in the history of film
The only thing that come to mind was Jar Jar Binks.
Martin
Loney
Ethier
Kemp
Billingsley
All-Time (that I was old enough to see)
Guererro
Fernando
Scioscia
Cey
Orel
25 And who created Jar Jar?
2 for 3.
Whatever the name of George Lucas's graphics company is. Industrial Light & Magic?
Current
1. Bison
2. Russ
3. Loney
4. Broxton
5. Furcal
All-Time-
1. Jackie
2. Koufax
3. Edwin Jackson (what can i say, i got attached)
4. Piazza
5. Campy
As for my all-time #3, he currently has a VORP over 10. He is also second in the majors behind Cliff Lee in starts giving up 0 runs. He has 3 and i like Lee has 5 or 6.
"Cate Blanchett" is perfectly fine, however.
I try to forget a lot of things about "Lord of the Rings."
Please forgive me everyone.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3392423
I just thought it was good to hear and at the same time made me feel kind of sad. I really hope he pulls out of it.
Kuo is number two in both lists, plus he made a lot of current fav lists. To me he is easily the most fun to watch, while battling Chad for most maddening.
I hope Eric never gets a job he pays attention to so that we get his complete poll attention.
I excerpted (and posted) this part:
"This is the first time he's left the nest," the manager said. "He's been with an organization his whole life. He ventures out; he doesn't do very well."
I then wondered what explained Jones's 2007, given that he was still in the nest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfmFAL84Egw
He left "the nest" of Curacao in 1994 and over the next 3 seasons played in 7 cities and roared thru the farm system. He did all this as a teenager. It did not seem to bother him then.
He spent 12 years in Atlanta and I have no doubt he misses it and it's an adjustment but I'm skeptical that that is the root of the problem.
Having said all that, I agree with Torre in keeping him in the lineup. If he starts hitting we will be a much better team.
I hate it when the fans boo a Dodger unless he's not trying.
53.2 IP
32 Hits
4 BBs
44 Ks
1 HR
0.67 ERA
All the peripherals are good. 11-1 (Ks/bbs) is insane. But 32 hits allowed in 53 IP?
Wow.
A year from now instead of lamenting that Ned wasted money on A Jones, the debate will be how long and for how much we should extend his contract.
The sooner he works things out the less Pierre we'll see which is to everyone's benefit.
I hope Eric never gets a job he pays attention to so that we get his complete poll attention
This quest, while fun, has taken some time to keep up with. It may have been easier to compile everything at the end, but it wouldn't have been nearly as fun.
I suspect some fans interpret Jones's weight to be an indication that he's not trying as hard as he could.
Furcal was good the year before he came to the Dodgers. Jones wasn't. Seems like people around here are in denial about that.
When the Reds traded Frank Robinson to the Orioles it was because they said he was an old 30, when you look at A Jones, he looks like an old 31.
I don't think anyone is in denial about his sub par 2007. I'm in denial that it indicated a permanent decline as El Lay Dave has stated.
Maybe's he's missing what was in his nest in the East.
Chad Billingsley
James Loney
Russell Martin
Matt Kemp
Jonathan Broxton
All-Time (Non-Current):
Bob Welch
Steve Garvey
Eric Gagne
Tim Belcher
Eric Karros
Hard to remember but when Welch came up it seemed very Kershaw like. He had electric stuff.
Current-
Martin
Kemp
Saito
Broxton
Loney
All Time-
Yeager
Fernando
Dusty Baker (sorry)
Cey
Pedro Guerrero
I picked 4 of the same all-time 5 except you have Boomer and I took Reggie Smith.
Hmmm, 1981 World Series MVP Trio, 1981 Rookie of the Year and Cy Young Award winner and Johnnie B. Baker. Nothing wrong with those 5.
Martin
Loney
Saito
Billingsley
Kemp
All-Time:
Robinson
Koufax
Hershiser
Baker
Scioscia
i would add odalis to that list, although he did well the first season after the trade.
in other news, dialidol.com predicts a david v. david final, using busy signals as an indicator of the number of votes. it's science!
It's unreasonable to expect Kershaw to contribute anything more than 5 IP/start right now.
Plus, look at the expected ERAs in 12 . The pitchers have been fine; just a bit unlucky.
Kemp
Martin
Furcal
Billingsley
Kuo
All-Time (that I've seen):
Orel
Piazza
Beltre
Ramon Martinez (I)
Gagne
This is not true.
In Betemit's case, he was a reverse agegate guy. The Braves tried to pass him off as older than he really was so that they could sign him before he turned 16. It's the same thing the Dodgers did with Beltre. So Betemit is actually younger than his official DOB says he is.
With Furcal, he turned out to have fudged his age to make him appear younger. But there has never been any suspicion that the Braves were complicit in this; in fact, it makes no sense whatsoever that they would be. The whole reason players fake their ages is to appear younger to the team signing them, so that they can get a bigger bonus -- or, in some cases, so they can be signed at all. If the team knew the player's real age, then that would eliminate the only reason for faking one's age in the first place.
Pierre, LF
Jones, CF
Kemp, RF
Kent, 2B
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
DeWitt, 3B
Hu, SS
Lowe, P
Hope Lowe's sinker is working today.
Having Jones bat behind Pierre is good strategy, given that Jones can't hit with runners on base.
Did Fimple get a retirement benefit from MLB with these numbers?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/fimplja01.shtml
Does anyone know the MLB retirement deal? Days and dollars.
I really hope you're not counting my top 5 current favorites because they were in jest.
is that jack stephanowski?
Pawn off was the wrong choice of words. I remember being very irritated when everyone knew Furcal was older then he was but they kept giving him credit for breaking records at his "given age" instead of his real age when he was a rookie.
1) Martin
2) Loney
3) Kemp
4) Beimel
5) Saito
All-Time Dodgers
1) Sandy Koufax
2) Ron Cey
3) Don Drysdale
4) Gil Hodges
5) Orel Hershiser
Martin
Loney
Kemp
Ethier
Billingsley
All-Time:
Koufax
Hershiser
Reese
Piazza
R Martinez
Jose Offerman
Odalis Perez
Gio Carrera
Don Stanhouse
Carlos Perez
Nope, I stay on the ship until it either breaks free of the duress or goes down. Faith doesn't climb onto a rowboat when things get tough.
Dorey Wade followed Brad Penny with two scoreless innings and lowered his ERA to 1.88
I knew full pack would be on that list.
Gio - he was awesome for us.
Charlie Neal
Junior Gilliam
Johnny Roseboro
Doug Camilli
Maury Wills
My all-time favorites are really:
Myron White
Mike Ramsey
Mike Ramsey
Sandy Vance
Camilo Pascual
Kemp
Loney
Ethier
Billingsley
Hu
All-Time (Life Time):
Hershiser
Piazza
Butler, Brett (I was young)
Beltre
Mondesi
Martin
Saito
Ethier
DeWitt
Loney
All-time:
Garvey
Orel
Scioscia
Cey
Piazza
You're going to get a stern look from me when I shake your hand. I was counting your list until now (I thought you had a soft spot for the career minor leaguer)...is the all-time accurate or were you a filthy liar there as well? :)
Yikes, the Welch-Reggie duel was almost 30 years ago. I was having an okay day, now I feel old.
If Jones did steroids, then stopped before last season, doesn't that explain the precipitous decline? Plus, who's to know for sure whether he might not be a couple years older than he's supposed to be.
He batted .222 last season. And while he hit 26 home runs, he was playing in the NL East, in hitter-friendly parks, and not facing the pitching he's seeing now in the NL West.
Jones, CF
Kemp, RF
Kent, 2B
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
DeWitt, 3B
Hu, SS
Lowe, P
115 I do. I have pee samples for all ten thousand+ baseball players over the past two decades. Fun stuff. It's in my basement, next to my central blogging headquarters and the Buzz Bissinger Library.
Bob Timmermann doesn't play favorites.
Chuck Norris doesn't play favorites, he is everyone elses favorite.
When I think of Ron Cey its the memory of him playing 3B not selling appliances on TV.
Steve Garvey never was a favorite of mine because I thought he was too image conscious, too concerned about his stats and wasn't the best player on his team.
Torre probably figured hitting in Milwaukee tonight against a crappy LH is the best hitting situation Druw will see until next week.
Tomorrow is Sheets, and the weekend is the Angels staff.
Lopes has received two votes.
Sax received seven.
Loney
Kemp
Martin
Billingsley
Saito
All-Time:
Jackie
Sandy
Fernando
Piazza
Shawn Green
CF Mike Cameron
SS JJ Hardy
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
2B Craig Counsell
P Manny Parra
C Jason Kendall
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN197805140.shtml
Perhaps Lasorda can reminisce on the opponents' cleanup hitter's performance.
I was 12 when I got a foul ball that Sax hit.
I was 13 when I saw him homer on Opening Day in '88.
I did not know at the time that Davey Lopes had a better career OPS+ than Steve Sax.
1. bills
2. martin
3. saito
4. loney
5. beimel
least fav all time
1. lugo
2. tomko
3. odalis
4. hendrickson
5. tbd.
I don't know, I'm asking. Have we reached 100,000? Or are we well beyond?
Pierre's agent rocked the boat.
My parents still laugh about my original pronunciation of Davey Lopes's name when I was a little boy. I thought it was Baby Lopes.
To me, its that simple.
Plus Ethier has had a horrible time hitting lefties this year (4 for 28, all singles), even Jones has slightly better numbers than that.
FWIW - at the last game I went to (Saturday with Eric Stephen), I saw Ethier joking around with Jones and in pretty good spirits before the game during BP.
Okay, one commenter might.
Prince Vegetable has nothing on J-Lo
1- Reggie Smith - fun to do the switchhittig thing while playing wiffleball as a child.
2- Piazza
3 - Fernando
4 - Garvey - His stance was fun for wiffle ball as well.
5 - Greg Brock - From a city not to far from me.
Current :
1- Martin
2 - Loney
3- Kemp
4- Laroche
5 - Billingsley.
Isn't that what Pierre has attached to his shoulder?
I'm here all week. Try the veal.
I think it's more problematic than that. I certainly don't want Torre riding the hot hand all the time, because how do you know when a hot streak ends or one could begin?
On May 1, Pierre voiced his displeasure with his role. He started that night, and for the next 5 games before Furcal went out. That's a Grady move straight out of 2007, when he would play Gonzo immediately after a complaint about playing time.
Starting Pierre is wrong on any of these 3 levels:
1) Torre believes in playing the hot hand, rather than the best players
2) Torre will allow a veteran to determine playing time by responding to his complaints
3) Torre thinks Pierre is a suitable replacement for Furcal at the leadoff spot
I'm not saying any other manager would do it differently. I'm not saying Ethier should demand a trade. But I'm saying I feel like Will Ferrell in Zoolander. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Why is something that is so blindingly obvious to me and many others (Kemp AND Ethier should play every day, almost without question) not even considered by the club? It's embarrassing.
707 did anyone else have a gut feeling that JP was gonna hit his 1st career HR as a dodger last night off gagne?
Somehow that thought never entered my mind.
Jason Schmidt
Andruw Jones
Nomar Garciaparra
Juan Pierre
Luis Maza
Five favorite Dodgers alltime:
Dick Allen
Don Sutton
Andy Messersmith
Claude Osteen
Duke Sims
709 what's the deal with lucas may? he hasn't played since sunday and it was only 1 PA
SUNS REPORT: Jacksonville 8, Mobile 4
>> Lucas May left in the second inning after a first-inning pitch hit him in the left arm. <<
And never saw Cheap Seats. I did meet him at a trade show a few years back; he was pimping some video game software. I introduced myself, and he let me take a cell phone pic with him. Nice enough for me. Funny thing is that I was taller than him, which just struck me as odd.
Strike two.
Loney
Martin
Ethier
Furcal
Sandy
Fernando
Piazza
Gibson
Wills
I understand it is an age thing. Just surprised that folks my age who saw Lopes play did not pick him, but those who did see Sax play did pick him, even though Lopes was a better player during my growing up era then Sax was during many of yours growing up era.
Now that I think of it however, if you saw Lopes play then you also had alot more players to choose from for your favorites then the Sax era.
All in all it was just another in a series of comments that I should have just left unwritten today.
It's funny to me that Broxton looks like a huge monster on the field, but he's the height of a guard in the NBA.
I think I really liked the Dodger all-time infield because other then Russel, the three studs of Garvey, Lopes, and Cey were all below average in height for a major league baseball player.
When you top out in 8th grade and everyone in the world grows taller then you, you look for things like that to hang your hat on provided you can reach the hat rack.
>> "The thing with Jon is, as a reliever, what we noticed was a slight drop in velocity when we used him on back-to-back days," Bundy said. "By him starting, hopefully it allows him to get some of that arm strength back and to develop three pitches." <<
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/18887689.html
Also, Bobby Grich was probably my favorite player during that time so I think in mind, he's my favorite 2B so Lopes doesn't come to mind due to that too.
It is not Broxton's height that is big. He would have no problem clearing space in the paint.
That team, not that time.
Darn, that's what I thought.
I got over Saxie when he became a Yankee.
>> Bundy said Stults is pitching better now than he was last year when the Dodgers called him up three times and he pitched in 12 games for them. <<
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/18924834.html
The Here-And-Now:
1. Kemp
2. Loney
3. Ethier
4. Martin
5. Broxton
Ancient Times:
1. Koufax
2. Bill Singer
3. Piazza
4. Bill Sudakis
5. S. Green
I'd like to see him go one-on-one with Barkley.
THEN: Robinson, Koufax, Piazza, Valenzuela, Gagne
Sudakis made my 1st cut as he was the 1st Dodger prospect I got excited about but I couldn't keep him on the list. I'm glad you did so at least he will show up on the poll.
As much as I didn't want Sax to leave, I thought the right side of the infield was upgraded when Randolph/Murray replaced Sax/Stubbs. Back-to-back champs for sure!
That's pretty impressive, I wonder if Ken is going to keep track of who gets the millionth post. Perhaps a Baseball Toaster shopping spree?
vr, Xei
I think Randolph turned the duece better then any Dodger I've ever seen, and that was in the twilight of his career.
At what point will Bob strike out tonight?
Just don't get sunburn in Mexico.
The sunburn is the least thing to be worried about in Mexico.
"The mystery is solved: Park pitches Saturday. Torre says they should be able to get 85-90 pitches out of him."
Batten down the hatches.
The cynical side of me asks, if that's the case, who enters the game in the fourth?
1) Ethier
2) Martin
3) Loney
4) Furcal
5) Saito
Then:
1) Koufax
2) Robinson
3) Newcombe
4) Wes Parker
5) Drysdale
Nomar Garciaparra has been working out at shortstop and could return to the position and start over Chin-lung Hu if he beats Rafael Furcal back.
Kuo is now the 5th starter tag team guy. Not a bad combo if the 1st guy does his job.
209 I saw that yesterday, personally, I think that leads me more to the idea of Nomar being a utility player once Raffy gets back.
Some of us picked guys we actually saw play while others didn't.
That has about as much chance for success as having Nomar as the only 3rd baseman on the team. How did that work out?
Unless the goal is to get him hurt as quickly as possible, which very well might be the goal.
Does the one-millionth Toaster poster gets a free subscription to Baseball Toaster Platinum?
202 - glad I didn't go buy tickets for the game
Nothing wrong with it though.
There's a drive you can make past Santa Barbara heading up towards that whole "Sideways" wine country where you pass a lake and some nice mountain roads.
When my car broke down near Santa Barbara and I had to be towed back to LA (and I also had to pay the guy cash on my arrival home), my conversation with a tow truck driver consisted of how many times he finds a car that went off the road in that area. (At least once a month)
Kuo
Kemp
Martin
Furcal
Saito
Then:
Piazza
Nomo
Green
Gagne
Beltre
Now:
Chad Billingsley
Russell Martin
Matt Kemp
James Loney
Rafael Furcal
Then:
Orel Hershiser
Mike Scioscia
Fernando Valenzuela
Shawn Green
Pedro Guerrero
I figured it was off-topic but I did the drive this weekend & it's one of those things were you find something so great you wanna share it with everybody!
225. The drive from Solvang to Los Olivos is beautiful too and it takes you right by the Sideways Winery (movie fame). Keep driving through Los Olivos up past the Neverland Ranch and to the ridge of Figueroa mountain. That is also an incredibly beautiful drive, but it's starting to brown up. I like camping in the Lake Cachuma area (Rancho Oso). Doesn't get the crowds like anything within 90 minutes of LA does.
vr, Xei
http://folar.org/
Don Burns did.
Current:
1)Martin
2)Saito
3)Broxton (he's a thrower now BUT if he starts pitching he could be very special)
4)Kuo
5)Kemp
Former:
1)Orel Hershiser
2)Michael Piazza (I can't believe I forgot him)
3)Fernando (I never saw him in his prime but my dad sure made a fuss over 'em)
4)Mondesi
5)Pedro Martinez (for the little while he was with us he sure threw gas)
All-time:
1. Koufax
2. Drysdale
3. Wills
4. Willie Davis
5. Pete Reiser
I saw all of them save Reiser.
Current:
1. Loney
2. Martin
3. Kemp
4. Saito
5. DeWitt
I was old enough to see Jackie Robinson play had there been televised Games of the Week back then.
Where you been lately? There's a new post in town
Everybody loves it, don't they?
Now they're reading it, and you're still around
Oh, my, my
There's a new post in town
just another new post in town
Ooh, hoo
Everybody's talking 'bout the new post in town,
Ooh, hoo
Everybody's walking like the new post in town
There's a new post in town
There's a new post in town
I don't want to hear it
There's a new post in town
I don't want to hear it
There's a new post in town
There's a new post in town
There's a new post in town
1) Mike Piazza
2) Orel Hershiser
3) Pedro Guerrero
4) Kirk Gibson
5) Milton Bradley!
Now:
1) Kemp
2) Martin
3) Billingsley
4) LaRoche
5) Broxton
You voted last night! Does this post replace that? Also, anything legitimate from Bob? What about Xeifrank?
According to 222 , yes.
bigcpa can highlight the "c" in yellow because he was the 100th -- and final -- entry.
I'll post the results in the game thread.
Boo.
1. how many runs Park gives up in his start?
2. the innings where Kuo inevitablly enters the game?
I'd hope Hu does well though. he's had some decent stretches . need some consistent play time though. I'm hopin they don't Chris Burke him.
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