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Choose Your Mirage
2008-05-15 14:00
by Jon Weisman

Andruw Jones, Jeff Kent and Gary Bennett all homered off Ben Sheets in the seventh inning. Who's for real?

Six runs scored in support of Chad Billingsley's seven innings of shutout ball. Billingsley ends up allowing a run in the eighth inning of a 7-2 victory.

* * *

A fun story about baseball in France comes from Geraldine Baum of the Times:

It's still not a game children play in the garden or during a barbecue. As is regularly noted, if you hand a French child a baseball, he'll immediately drop and try to kick it. (Of course, that's how the 1962 Mets played, and they won a World Series a few years later.)

On a typical spring weekend when the Cougars are on the field, there are only a few dozen spectators in the stands, and often the strapping players mix with the desultory crowd, wandering over to the snack bar for a square of vanilla flan or a waffle delicately sprinkled with sugar. ...

Even when the championships for the top-level teams (equivalent to Class-A baseball in the U.S.) were played in Montigny, they drew only 100 people to the 230-seat stands.

It's puzzling if only because baseball seems in so many ways like a sport the French might like:

It's leisurely and permeated with romance, much like French cinema, and leaves plenty of time for analysis and hearty eating in the bleachers. And in the American imagination, baseball is so tied to what feels like the very French notion of terroir, which can be translated as territory but refers to a cultural attachment to the land. Baseball is rooted in a pastoral culture of summertime in the country with people cheering as much for a team as for the spirit of their land. ...

Comments (127)
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2008-05-15 14:14:43
1.   Eric Stephen
Ben Sheets had never allowed three HR in one inning before today. Interestingly, three of the five times Sheets has allowed three HR in one game have come against the Dodgers.
2008-05-15 14:15:51
2.   LogikReader
Did one of those include the Green 4 HR game?
2008-05-15 14:17:28
3.   LogikReader
No, to answer my own question. Rusch pitched in that game.
2008-05-15 14:18:03
4.   underdog
Jim Edmonds got a single in 4 ABs versus his old team the Padres today, left one runner in scoring position in his start. How weird is it, that he signs with the Cubs and right away they are playing the Padres?

Go Rockies tonight!

2008-05-15 14:21:20
5.   Eric Stephen
Also, in none of the previous 4 games did a Sheets opponent score more than 2 runs in an inning, let alone 3 HR.
2008-05-15 14:28:23
6.   kinbote
0 Bennett's a mirage; Kent is still productive (though far from his prime); and Jones . . . Jones is showing real signs of breaking out of his slump. The problem is, the slump was so deep that we have to adjust our expectations way down. He's not going to be the #4 hitting slugger we wanted him to be, but if he can become a decent #7 hitter, we should be happy. Dodger Baseball: Adjust Your Expectations Downward©
2008-05-15 14:33:15
7.   bhsportsguy
Strange season of ups and downs
2008-05-15 14:34:00
8.   Indiana Jon
640 last thread. Skyline Chili is an excellent restaurant for a fast food chain. Cincinnati chili is a unique version of chili. There are several restaurants in the Cincinnati area that serve a better chili than Skyline. If you ever make it to Great American Ballpark, make sure to try the Goldstar Chili, it's pretty good too. Also, make sure to get the 5-way, not just the 3-way.
2008-05-15 14:36:32
9.   Jon Weisman
7 - So we're 8-4-2 in series. And yet we're just over .500.

We need a sweep this weekend to balance those books.

2008-05-15 14:38:45
10.   KingKopitar
Looks like we've solved our third base dilemma: Martin at 3rd, Gary Bennett behind the plate!


2008-05-15 14:38:54
11.   Reddog
Last night's comeback win was big. So was today's big win, with Billingsley pitching great, and 3 home runs. I predict we're going to sweep the Angels.
2008-05-15 14:39:56
12.   therickdaddy
Jon, in response to the Kent article on the previous post, folks everywhere including here at DodgerThoughts have said Kent would stop hitting every year for his four years here. For that fact alone, I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

Or, at least point out that fact.

2008-05-15 14:40:15
13.   kinbote
The Detroit Tigers are 16-25.
2008-05-15 14:44:09
14.   Suffering Bruin
13 It's the SI jinx. :)

In 1987, SI picked the Indians to win the World Series. That year, Cleveland was the very worst team in baseball.

2008-05-15 14:46:14
15.   blue22
8 - If I ever happen to find myself in Cincinnati, I shall do that very thing. Just need to come up with a reason to go there...
2008-05-15 14:48:16
16.   Gilberto Reyes
Jeff Kent is a closet reader of Dodger Thoughts when he takes breaks from his motorcycle magazines. He was obviously motivated by Jon's post before today's game. I am not giving up on the surly old man yet.
2008-05-15 14:49:24
17.   fanerman
16 Jeff Kent prints out the Dodger Thoughts posts and hides them in his motorcycle magazines so he can read Dodger Thoughts while everybody else thinks he's reading about motorcycles.
2008-05-15 14:50:05
18.   Gagne55
Funny that Kent hits a homerun on the same day Jon posts "Kent Hits a Wall"

7 I don't see anything strange with that distrubution.

14 Post Hoc reasoning alert!!

2008-05-15 14:53:02
19.   Jon Weisman
18 - I've got a number in my head regarding how many people today will point that out :)

In fairness, I did write: "What seems likely is that Kent will have reassuring little bursts of offense here and there to disguise his mediocrity ..."

2008-05-15 14:54:56
20.   bhsportsguy
19 I'm pretty sure Jon would accept a repeat of 2006 for Kent (or even 2007).
2008-05-15 14:59:36
21.   Jon Weisman
Ken Rosenthal starts Matt Holliday rumor:

2008-05-15 14:59:47
22.   Gilberto Reyes
19 The "reassuring little bursts of offense" line seems like a disclaimer just in case Kent does have a decent year. I am going to be very happy if he hits 15 HR and drives in 70 runs. Especially if he averages one day off per week. It's OK Jon, we know that you are just as pleased as the rest of us when he does well!
2008-05-15 14:59:48
23.   LogikReader
The one thing that bothers me about this team in this decade is these "streaks" against teams.

For instance they've been struggling to win games against the Astros, Mets, and Padres in the last five years. I mean when does a team look at this and say "this is ridiculous! Let's go beat these guys!"?

The Red Sox had 86 years of that before the '04 team just said "forget this, let's go play!"

2008-05-15 15:00:29
24.   Jon Weisman
20 - I'll accept even less.
2008-05-15 15:02:19
25.   okdodge
It's still weird looking at the box score and seeing that Jones still only has 7 rbi's.
2008-05-15 15:02:23
26.   LogikReader

The Mets is a bad example because in 2007 the Dodgers beat the Mets in LA and lost to them on the road. In '08 so far, they were close to a sweep until Bad Penny botched the third game.

2008-05-15 15:02:25
27.   Jon Weisman
22 - Yeah, I'm not rooting against Kent or anything. But it's just like Pierre's game yesterday. One big hit doesn't necessarily change an overriding trend. I hope it does, but it's still not likely. So it's not a hollow disclaimer. If Kent has a decent year, then that's more than I'm bargaining for.

I don't happen to think that 15 HR amid a .700 OPS with poor defense will qualify as "decent."

2008-05-15 15:04:03
28.   kinbote
21 I could see a Holliday trade happening. Shades of Piazza: A two-year deal for an arbitration-eligible superstar.

Sorry, my last Tigers Thought: They have played 40 games this year and been shut out 8 times.

2008-05-15 15:05:15
29.   bhsportsguy
Stating the Obvious
Kent and Jones begin to hit, this team will start scoring runs at a more consistent basis.
2008-05-15 15:05:45
30.   LogikReader
Holliday for Pierre, Lowe, LaRoche, and Kent.


2008-05-15 15:08:07
31.   blue22
30 - Only if we go to the 3-man infield / 4-man outfield.
2008-05-15 15:12:55
33.   bhsportsguy
32 I get the feeling this post is about to be edited.
2008-05-15 15:14:19
34.   regfairfield
Off topic, did anyone ever tally up that great sports writer list from a couple weeks ago? I'd like some irrefutable proof that I'm a better writer than Peter Gammons.
2008-05-15 15:14:34
35.   blue22
32 - Heyo!
2008-05-15 15:17:52
36.   LoneStar7
32 oh whoops i just realized there was inappropriate language in it feel free to edit or remove, wasnt really worth posting anyway..

Theres no credibility to that claim though is there, has there been any report from denver about him possibly leaving yet?

2008-05-15 15:19:53
37.   regfairfield
36 Nope, Rosenthal is starting the rumor himself.
2008-05-15 15:19:53
38.   scareduck
4 - Edmonds stranded an incredible seven baserunners in his first game with the Cubs, leading him for team negative WPA despite the win:

He hit into an inning-ending double play in the fourth, and struck out with the bases loaded in the seventh. Great start, Jimmy.

2008-05-15 15:21:26
39.   Marty
Gah. Those are the types of articles I dislike the most. Holliday could be traded. Just replace a few words and you have a Holliday may not be traded article. Nothing but pure speculation.
2008-05-15 15:21:37
40.   underdog
33 Funny, me too. Just a gut.

Yahoo Rumors comments always scare me as another sign of the breakdown of our society. There are always astute ones sprinkled in there of course, but many of them are an embarrassment. And Yahoo Rumors themselves more often than not turn out to just be laughable.

2008-05-15 15:22:39
41.   Marty
Cubs bloggers are not happy to see Edmonds on their team.
2008-05-15 15:23:13
42.   Gilberto Reyes
27 Kent's defense will never get better but I don't think he will end up OPS'ing below .800. His lowest total in the last five years is .860 and I really don't see him dropping that far this year if Torre continues to give him adequate rest.
2008-05-15 15:24:00
43.   Jon Weisman
34 - I plan to tally it up alphabetically.
2008-05-15 15:24:16
44.   underdog
{singing} "I don't care what you say/ We're going on a Holliday." (quick! Name the show!)
2008-05-15 15:25:02
45.   regfairfield
44 Mr.
2008-05-15 15:25:19
46.   Jon Weisman
42 - I hope you're right :)
2008-05-15 15:25:45
47.   underdog
38 Yikes! I misread the Yahoo box score, I guess, or it was inaccurate an hour ago. I already thought he was bad. That's even worse. I mean given the Padres offense, the fact that he couldn't even cut it with them -- shouldn't that have told the Cubs something? I guess not.
2008-05-15 15:25:46
48.   regfairfield
43 Dang, that's not nearly as fun.
2008-05-15 15:31:01
49.   underdog
45 Heh. Nicely shorthanded. And correct.

From the episode that also gave us the line: "Sad songs are nature's onions."

2008-05-15 15:32:02
50.   bhsportsguy
36 Next time feel free to subsitute an appropriate word like toilet.

Still does not come close to the Buzz Bissinger tirade on Steiner's XM show last week. He dropped the word in that post but a whole lot of other ones that possibly could have made Tommy blush.

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2008-05-15 15:39:28
51.   LogikReader
I know people talk about how comments on mainstream websites are a sad indicator for society, but usually the comments there are by people who barely hit puberty. Most people I know said pretty dumb and ignorant things when we were still in Junior High, but didn't really mean them.
2008-05-15 15:40:07
52.   LogikReader

i.e. they aren't being serious.

2008-05-15 15:41:54
53.   LoneStar7
what I found humorous was how almost everybody on there spelled Andruw's name with an E...but also how that guy though Broxton should be dumped in favor of minor league pitching...
2008-05-15 15:44:47
54.   KingKopitar
53 That guy was obviously tired of our lousy veterans and wants some new blood up in the majors, so we should definitely get rid of... Broxton? Sorry, I tried to mine something out of that but I got lost.
2008-05-15 15:46:35
55.   Jim Hitchcock
15 You can go to the WKRP Museum...they have a 3D hologram of Jan Smithers.
2008-05-15 15:47:53
56.   underdog
51 I'm hoping you're right.

I had to spend some time on Yahoo Answers this month for a work project, and it made me want to cry.

2008-05-15 16:03:08
57.   blue22
Almost 20 minutes without a post? Are the internets broken?
2008-05-15 16:03:56
58.   LoneStar7
Was Ken Gurnick making a little joke here lol?

"He replaced his shoes. He replaced his helmet. He replaced his uniform pants and would have replaced his jersey if the Dodgers had an extra one the correct size."

2008-05-15 16:04:41
59.   fanerman
57 Everybody is too busy celebrating the victory I guess.
2008-05-15 16:05:16
60.   Gen3Blue
Lord. I'm watching the end of the Giants game and when I saw Chulks pattern of facial hair I thought it was Big Footdsen.
What a shock!
2008-05-15 16:10:07
61.   underdog
60 Chulk is scary looking enough.

In that game the Astros hit 3 home runs in the 8th and 9th inning to take a 1 run lead against the Giants' intimidating bullpen.

2008-05-15 16:13:40
62.   Gen3Blue
61 I almost found myself rooting for the Giants there. Its a Bizzaro world. Houston wins.
2008-05-15 16:20:04
63.   scareduck
In a double loss to New York baseball, the Yankees go down 5-2 to Scott Kazmir, formerly of the Mets.
2008-05-15 16:25:50
64.   Bob Timmermann
First the Dodgers hire a Giants assistant GM to run the team and now the AP says this:

"Torre chatted with Bobby Thomson in the Brewers dugout before the game."


2008-05-15 16:27:19
65.   fanerman
64 Bobby Thomson of The Original Spygate™ fame?
2008-05-15 16:29:51
66.   Bob Timmermann
The same.
2008-05-15 16:30:03
67.   underdog
64 - I find it hard to hold a grudge against a guy for something that happened almost 20 years before I was born.

Joe Morgan and Jack Clark, however, those are another story.

2008-05-15 16:49:54
68.   Bob Timmermann
There's no better grudge than a retroactive grudge. It's what's human history is based on.
2008-05-15 16:51:06
69.   Indiana Jon
So Mark Bellhorn is playing for the SUns now. For some reason that scares me.
2008-05-15 16:55:09
70.   underdog
68 Fair enough. I'm still mad at the Cossacks.
2008-05-15 16:57:14
71.   Bob Timmermann
Sheesh, there are some bone fragments in the Olduvai Gorge that I'm angry with.
2008-05-15 17:00:26
72.   Jon Weisman
Rob Neyer on Kershaw:

2008-05-15 17:08:09
73.   underdog
72 I guess we might as well stop calling him the Minotaur, since his career has already been jinxed enough lately by reporters. Sigh, he exists, I suppose...
2008-05-15 17:12:35
74.   underdog
72 - Anyone with Insider subscription sum that one up?
2008-05-15 17:15:33
75.   DXMachina
Speaking of fossils, at least Rosenthal has a sense of humor. In listing potential trade partners for Holliday:

"New York Mets. No obvious need, at least as long as Moises Alou is healthy."


2008-05-15 17:16:11
76.   bhsportsguy
74 If I said Neyer agrees with Ned that would be to simplistic but he does excerpt a part of Passan's Yahoo article.

Basically, Neyer thinks that the Minotaur should pitch a few more months in the minors.

2008-05-15 17:21:13
77.   D4P
This from Depo:

2) There have been a lot of questions regarding my time at the Dodgers that I haven't published. I am simply not permitted to speak about anything relating to the Dodgers. Sorry. I didn't want you thinking that I was blowing off all of those questions.

2008-05-15 17:25:11
78.   scareduck
77 - unsurprising.
2008-05-15 17:26:34
79.   scareduck
FWIW, I agree that Kershaw needs to pitch in AAA for a while, and also -- painful as it is, considering the precariousness of the Dodgers' rotation -- he needs to finish his AA stint.
2008-05-15 17:27:41
80.   bhsportsguy
77 I guess this will stop people from asking him questions about things in the past and he can address the sudden decline of a 40+ year old pitcher who is makeing $10 million a year.
2008-05-15 17:29:31
81.   regfairfield
He got older and his outfield defense went from great to terrible.
2008-05-15 17:30:27
82.   PDH5204
Re burgers and such, here in the land of Aloha, well, at least Oahu:

If you didn't go to Rainbow, then you were never on Oahu, except maybe to change planes.

The burger joints are Teddy's in Waikiki, Kua Aina on the North Shore [i.e., the one in Haleiwa and not the one in town], and W & M BBQ Burger on Waialae Ave. Please note that W & M is a family joint, and so they close shop at 4:30 p.m. I can forgive them for closing early, what with the way they dip that burger, both before grilling and just before the flip, into their secret sauce... Note to self, it's only 2:30, there's still time...

2008-05-15 17:32:35
83.   PDH5204
Sorry, wrong link for Rainbow, though our man at Kalakaua does a fine job [a Chinese man raising his fine young son], but here's the right link for Rainbow:

2008-05-15 17:33:09
84.   D4P
Depo actually published my Dodger-related question, which I think was the first. But he never responded to it.
2008-05-15 17:52:03
85.   Icaros

Was that the one where you asked how LoDuca could be traded in the middle of a pennant race?

2008-05-15 17:52:19
86.   Linkmeister
PDH, you still posted a link to Kalakaua. If you mean Rainbow Drive-In, which I haven't been to in about a thousand years, it's here:

2008-05-15 17:58:51
87.   D4P
I don't know why he wouldn't want to answer...
2008-05-15 18:08:23
88.   vockins
Here's the bird's eye view of the park in France:

2008-05-15 18:12:05
89.   bhsportsguy
87 Two reasons. 1. It was reporterd that he signed a confidentiality agreement upon his dismissal in exchange for financial considerations thus he would have to give back money if he discusses the ongoings in any detail. 2. And probably, more likely, he has moved on and does not want to talk about it.

I don't have any citation to the first point but I believe I have heard it mentioned over the years.

2008-05-15 18:17:58
90.   Jon Weisman
87 wasn't sarcastic?

And in that vein ... So, San Francisco isn't going to the playoffs after all?

2008-05-15 18:18:34
91.   vockins
I managed to find another park in France, looks nicer than the subject of the article:

2008-05-15 18:20:13
92.   D4P
87 was sarcastic, as was 85 .
2008-05-15 18:24:17
93.   Gen3Blue
Whoa! Cole Hamels with the complete game shutout. There have been some great pitching efforts tonight, including Sheets and Bills. And we still have Col vs. Ari to go!
2008-05-15 18:27:32
94.   Eric Stephen
including Sheets

Not so fast my friend!

2008-05-15 18:27:43
95.   CanuckDodger
Hey, Jon, do you have any thoughts about the new shows coming from the US networks for the '08-'09 season? I saw a trailer for the US remake of Life On Mars. Did you ever get a look at the UK original?
2008-05-15 18:28:44
96.   NorCal-Dodger
89 I also think, DePo doesn't want to burn any bridges on his blog site. Never know where his career may take him. Otherwise he could wind up selling used cars.
2008-05-15 18:33:21
97.   Gen3Blue
The gap between the east and west coast is so wide that on EI I actually had no game on for more than a minute between the Phils and D-backs game. So its the sinkers of Webb and Cook. The broadcast team is trying to characterize them as totally different.
2008-05-15 18:34:42
98.   Jon Weisman
95 - I never saw the UK original. Lots of tumult on the American one. As you probably know, David E. Kelley has been doing it. ABC is so high on the show that they renewed Boston Legal just to keep Kelley happy - but at the same time, there are going to be reshoots and I think recasting.

I'll link to the package that I'm editing on the fall scripted shows once it's live on the web this weekend.

2008-05-15 18:35:49
99.   Jon Weisman

Set for release August 8: "The Perfect Game," based on the true story of a ragtag team of tykes from Mexico that was the first non-American team to win the Little League World Series in 1957. The team stunned ballpark fans when they won 13 straight games, the last a perfect game.

Originally called "The Third Miracle," pic stars Clifton Collins Jr., Cheech Marin and Louis Gossett Jr.

2008-05-15 18:38:58
100.   Gen3Blue
What was Cheech's role like?
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2008-05-15 18:46:31
101.   Jon Weisman
100 - I haven't seen it.
2008-05-15 18:47:01
102.   Marty
99 They made a movie of that in the 50's
2008-05-15 18:49:08
103.   LoneStar7
whoever tried to convince us that the spurs weren't the whiniest team in the NBA, well that last clip of before the timeout of Duncan on one end with his arms up in disbelief and Parker on the other saying "I know you saw it, I know you saw it" pretty much explains it right there....
2008-05-15 18:51:09
104.   Gen3Blue
It looks like the Col-Ari game is going to be pretty ugly (At least for d's fans) I better head for sleep.
2008-05-15 18:52:50
105.   Marty
I can't find it on IMDB, but it was called The Little Giants
2008-05-15 18:55:27
106.   Bob Timmermann
I guess that 1-0 lead for Arizona in the first is insurmountable.
2008-05-15 19:00:05
107.   Bluebleeder87
Andruw Jones, Jeff Kent and Gary Bennett all homered off Ben Sheets in the seventh inning. Who's for real?

I really think Andruw Jones dinger was for real but his SWING (to me) looked like a HALE MARRY type job. I think Bennett's HR was the mirage.

2008-05-15 19:02:39
108.   LoneStar7
on another random noteI love how 'stros just keep battling back against the giants
2008-05-15 19:10:49
109.   LAT
77. Last Sunday I asked Depo two questions, neither of which I expected an answer to:

1. If you had to do over again would you still take the Dodger job (I suspect not)?

2. If you were still the GM what would be diffrent about the current Dodger team.

I also told him I thought it was ironic that a perceived "poor communicator" was taking the lead on an innovative approach to communicationg with his teams fan base.

2008-05-15 19:27:43
110.   underdog
98 How about summer shows? I'm curious about Fear Itself, the anthology show with a lot of great directors attached.

108 I also like how the Giants bullpen, to paraphrase that line in "Go" about Family Circus, is: "there, in the corner, just waiting to suck."

2008-05-15 19:30:49
111.   Bluebleeder87
the Passan article on Kershaw was a great read & I specially love to see EVEN THOUGH HE'S A GOOD 'OL BOY when it comes to baseball he really seems extremely competitive (let's face it guys, you ain't gonna be great if you don't have that tool) thanks for the links Jon.
2008-05-15 19:31:47
112.   underdog
New piece just posted on Yahoo by Tim Brown on James Loney and Casey Kotchman:

>>A veteran baseball scout leaned back in his seat behind home plate at Dodger Stadium recently and considered the two first basemen in town, two young players who bat and throw from the left side, who share discerning hitting eyes and soft hands, who were chosen in consecutive amateur drafts in the middle of the first rounds, who carry themselves as though they allow the game to carry them.

James Loney, wearing the blue of the Los Angeles Dodgers, was wearing out the left-center field gap in batting practice. In a few days he'd be in Anaheim for the Freeway Series, where he'd alternate at first base with Casey Kotchman of the Los Angeles Angels.

They come from baseball stock, from fathers who reared them on the game, and they arrived in the big leagues as comfortably as that, with pretty swings and nimble feet and broad shoulders.

"The thing they both bring to the table is first basemen with great baseball instincts," the scout said finally. "You don't find a lot of first basemen with superior instincts. Both turn hits into outs. They make good throws across the diamond. They're both real good ballplayers.

"They look the part and play the part. They're growing up here."<<

2008-05-15 19:32:49
113.   Bluebleeder87
dude, I'm watching the re-peat of the Dodger game, man Russell Martin threw a BEE-BEE to Loney (it was foul but still) man, I swear that dude is just freaking awesome.
2008-05-15 19:38:53
114.   berkowit28
107 a HALE MARRY type job

Wow, talk about a couple of homonyms. This would be one of those hearty, healthy weddings, then?

2008-05-15 19:53:15
115.   LAT
I am getting pretty sick and tired Bandon Webb.
2008-05-15 19:54:07
116.   LAT
Brandon Webb too.
2008-05-15 20:17:30
117.   Bluebleeder87
the whole snakes squad is sickening, I can't wait till we play them again, it's gonna be fun!!
2008-05-15 21:19:07
118.   underdog
Re: The Padres and Rockies so far this year -- wha' happen?!
2008-05-15 21:35:26
119.   Jon Weisman
TV chat thread open up top. Normal DT chat remains here.
2008-05-15 21:59:23
120.   Vishal
114 i used to give bluebleeder a hard time about his incredible propensity for homophones, but now i tend to accept it as an art form. :)
2008-05-15 22:54:40
121.   berkowit28
Has anyone noticed that tomorrow night (Friday) @ Angels, which is still listed in the official schedule as carried by KCAL-9, has been superseded there - according to my cable TV guide - by Laker NBA playoffs. So no Vin. It's available on FSN West (and HD), but that will be with Angels commentators.

Saturday's game is on main FOX. So again no Vin. Finally on Sunday, it should be on KCAL with Vin, as well as on FSN West with Angels guys. Even if Lakers lose tomorrow, the 7th Lakers playoff game will be Monday, not Sunday. So KCAL/Vin on Sunday will stick.

I guess on Friday and Saturday Vin will be on the radio for 3 innings, followed by Steiner? I assume Vin goes to Anaheim? Has anyone tried radio/TV together this year? From what I recall, the 7 second radio delay was removed mid-season last year. Has it stayed gone?

2008-05-15 23:17:45
122.   Bob Timmermann
I wouldn't be surprised if Vin took the night off if the game isn't televised.
2008-05-15 23:24:25
123.   PDH5204
86 Yes, I really goofed on that one. One of those days, except for the burgers I went for at W & M. Thanks for the correct link.
2008-05-15 23:33:30
124.   Eric Enders
I'm pumped that I'm going to get to see all three games this weekend. Generally, all Dodgers-Angels games are unavailable on Extra Innings because they air on broadcast TV in L.A. instead of on the FSN networks. But this time, the Fri and Sun games are on FSN, and the Saturday game Big Fox is showing here is actually the Dodger game for once.
2008-05-16 00:12:02
125.   berkowit28
124 The return visit of the Angels to Dodger Stadium at the end of June (27-29) has the Dodger (Vin) version on FSN PT on Friday, "TBD" on Saturday (meaning it might be on big FOX, or else on FSN PT again), so you'll get those too, FOX depending. The Sunday game is on KCAL (local broadcast). The Angels versions are all 3 on KCOP (local broadcast). So you won't get the Sunday game, but will get Friday's for sure with a good chance of Saturday's as well.
2008-05-16 00:34:33
126.   Eric Enders
Sounds good. Getting 5 out of 6 Dodger-Angel games would have been unheard of in years past.
2008-05-16 06:20:59
127.   Bob Hendley
9 - "We need a sweep this weekend to balance those books".

The little Mets fan in all of us.

2008-05-16 06:58:39
128.   Jon Weisman

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