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Bellhorn Joins Jacksonville
2008-05-16 13:56
by Jon Weisman

Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness passes along the news that Mark Bellhorn is now playing for the Dodgers' AA team in Jacksonville. Or, as Suns director of sales and promotions Casey Nichols somewhat quirkily puts it, "2004 World Series Champion Mark Bellhorn was promoted to Jacksonville from extended spring on May 15, 2008."

I just can't quite get behind the idea of calling an individual a champion in a team sport. I'll stick with "Mark Bellhorn of the 2004 World Series champions ..."

Since 2004, by the way, the 33-year-old infielder's major-league hit totals have gone down to 63, 48 and 1.

Recent Southern League pitcher of the week James McDonald is the Suns' scheduled starter tonight, with Clayton Kershaw on tap for Saturday, around the time that we learn the ultimate outcome of Chan Ho Park's start for the Dodgers.

* * *

The Dodgers have been buried at Anaheim in recent years, but they are 10-3 against left-handed starters this season. How will they fare against Angel lefty Joe Saunders (2.48 ERA)? Rob McMillin previews the interleague series at length at 6-4-2. Some of his conclusions might surprise you, such as which team has the better right fielder.

Comments (124)
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2008-05-16 14:13:52
1.   dagwich
Hate to repeat this, but I got LAT'd. Thanks for any help:

Got a question here totally off all the current threads. My family is getting together in July and 4 of us want to go to the Mets-Rockies game at Shea on July 11th. So we're looking for the best ticket broker or private party to deal with for 4 good seats that are "reasonably" priced (I totally expect to get skinned, it being NY, the Mets, and I'm probably a rube). Anybody got any advice on how to navigate this? The Mets website doesn't have 4 good seats together and man, Stubhub takes a bite. I'll ask at a Mets blog if I find one as civil as this group. Thanks....

2008-05-16 14:15:15
2.   Eric Enders
Can Bellhorn still play the middle infield? Heck, could Bellhorn ever really play the middle infield? I get the impression that more than Luis Maza, the one who should be looking over his shoulder is John Lindsey.

Somebody, though, should be looking over Luis Maza's shoulder to see if they can figure out a way to make it capable of throwing from shortstop to first base. That's got to be the worst infield arm I've ever seen.

2008-05-16 14:27:08
3.   scareduck
Hey, thanks for the linky, Jon.
2008-05-16 14:31:29
4.   cargill06
if BA came out with a new prospect list would lucas may possibly be the #1 ranked catching prospect?
2008-05-16 14:32:32
5.   Eric Enders
If you mean the Dodgers' #1 ranked catching prospect, then he already was ranked as such. If you mean #1 in all of baseball, not a chance in hell.
2008-05-16 14:33:54
6.   silverwidow
4 He strikes out too much.
2008-05-16 14:33:56
7.   cargill06
4 oh, maybe clement or weiters, my mistake
2008-05-16 14:35:02
8.   Eric Enders
I'm not really up to speed on all the catching prospects, but some guys who would easily rank ahead of May are Jeff Clement (who hasn't lost his prospect eligibility yet), Max Ramirez, Taylor Teagarden, Matt Wieters, and I'm sure many others who don't come immediately to mind.
2008-05-16 14:35:36
9.   Zak
If Bellhorn comes up to the majors, maybe Bill Mueller can come back and half our infield can be World Champions. And watch out if Derek Lowe is pitching.
2008-05-16 14:37:03
10.   Zak
Question.. moving from extended spring training to Jacksonville; is that considered a promotion? I would think it's more of an assignment or something, no?
2008-05-16 14:37:46
11.   Eric Enders
Then Nomar is going to feel all left out again.

I wonder if he ever wears his ring?

2008-05-16 14:38:33
12.   Eric Enders
Extended Spring Training essentially means "not good enough for prime time," so I think Jacksonville is definitely a promotion.
2008-05-16 14:38:42
13.   LogikReader
Going back to the previous thread, we seem to be referring to Heinsohn in the past tense, but he's still broadcasting games for the Celtics on CSN-New England. He even made up his own "Tommy-ism" the "Tommy Point".

I like Tommy Points, because they reward guys for hustle. Otherwise, yea, he's basically the same guy he was on CBS.

2008-05-16 14:40:19
14.   Zak
11 It'll probably mean something 15 years from now that it does right now. If it were me, it would just be sitting in a safe somewhere. But absent another ring, it's something to come home to when you're 50.
2008-05-16 14:41:18
15.   Eric Enders
8 Oh, I forgot about Hank Conger. Add him and Bryan Anderson to the list.
2008-05-16 14:43:07
16.   Zak
12 Thanks, I figured it was somewhere you play because the organization is waiting for the player to be in game shape. Like A-Rod this weekend. I wouldn't think he would be considered promoted when he rejoins the Yankees.
2008-05-16 14:43:21
17.   Jon Weisman
Red on Roundball

Here's one with Pete Maravich

2008-05-16 14:45:59
18.   underdog
13 Yikes. Glad I don't get that station.

11 His ring is in a box.

A ring in a box.

A champion's ring, in a box.

15 Has Conger come back from his torn labrum yet? I thought he was out for awhile. But he's still a good prospect.

2008-05-16 14:47:04
19.   Eric Enders
Usually extended spring training consists of guys who the team wants to send to short-season levels like Ogden or the GCL, but their seasons haven't started yet so they need someplace to hang out for a couple of months. Chris Withrow, for example. I think it's fairly rare for a player of advanced ability to be sent to XST, but sometimes they're sent there as punishment of sorts (like Brazoban earlier this year).
2008-05-16 14:50:41
20.   Zak
19 Got it. Thanks. What about coaches? Can we send Bowa there if he fake-flips out at another umpire.
2008-05-16 14:56:04
21.   Eric Enders
I would certainly be in favor of sending Bowa somewhere. Anywhere.

Another reason a guy might go to extended spring training is if he needs to rehab but a minor league team isn't available. I think LaRoche was sent there for one day before joining Jacksonville because the Suns had an off day. The games there are so informal that a rehabbing player who needs at-bats can bat 20 times in one game if he feels like it.

2008-05-16 15:01:47
22.   Jim Hitchcock
0 ,3 Thank's for giving me hope, whereas I had none before :)
2008-05-16 15:03:27
23.   LogikReader
18 17

Yes, I believe that is a sufficient reason for me not to move to New England. I caught one of the broadcasts via NBA TV

..which is also how we got all those "Red on Roundball" videos.

2008-05-16 15:15:01
24.   ToyCannon
I would have expected Bellhorn on a Depo team but not a Ned team.
2008-05-16 15:17:11
25.   ToyCannon
Seems like a good time for Jon to start checking dates for a DT Dodger game or DT picnic outing.
I'm still drooling over all the food that was being tossed about. We could combine the two and take the train to Petco and have a picnic on the hill, play some wiffleball on the wiffleball diamond before the game and then crash Eric's place after the game.
2008-05-16 15:34:03
26.   Gen3Blue
I probably should read the stuff cited above before mouthing off. Never mind.
2008-05-16 15:36:28
27.   Jon Weisman
25 - Definitely want to do the picnic during a Dodger roadtrip. If someone wants to throw out a date, I'll check with the Mrs.
2008-05-16 15:39:05
28.   scareduck
DT picnic? Has anyone come up with suggestions as to where?

Speaking of get-togethers, has anybody thrown out a date for a general DT day at the park yet?

2008-05-16 15:44:30
29.   blue22
0 - Some of his conclusions might surprise you, such as which team has the better right fielder.

Ha, and here I was expecting to go over there and read about how GM Jr is better than Kemp. Is Vlad still an OFer these days?

2008-05-16 15:47:03
30.   ToyCannon
Great writeup. It is amazing how alike Casey and Loney are in their skill set.
2008-05-16 15:49:56
31.   Jon Weisman
28 - A park on the Westside was suggested. I'd vote for something along those lines, since proximity for my family would be welcome. And maybe it won't be too hot. I'd also like the park to have a kiddie playground.

Another favorite place of ours is the Hahn Recreational Area in Baldwin Hills. It's huge, good for all ages (there's even fishing!) and has lots of places to grill. $4 to park, but it's worth it.

2008-05-16 15:52:43
32.   blue22
Kotchman's 2007 (age 24) of .296/.372/.467 would be a real nice season out of Loney this year (also 24).

Loney is currently at .285/.339/.464, so it looks like he'll have to step it up in the walks department. It's actually surprising his OBP is so low.

2008-05-16 15:55:48
33.   fracule
I just read on SOSG through FJM which quoted an article by Plascke that says Pierre is one of three Dodgers who have world series rings. That's a lame point to make, but also entirely incorrect. Can you name others?
2008-05-16 15:57:48
34.   Nagman
If I remember correctly, Bellhorn was a key player in that memorable Sunday afternoon loss at Petco a few years ago, "The Danys Baez game", where the Dodgers took a 5-0 lead into the bottom of the ninth.

(not to be confused with the memorable game at Petco last season when the Dodgers had a 5-1 lead going into the bottom of the ninth)

2008-05-16 15:58:18
35.   Jim Hitchcock
31 And there hasn't been a flood there in nearly 45 years!

2008-05-16 15:59:29
36.   LogikReader

If you count the manager, there's Joe Torre

That's what I have already. There could be others.

2008-05-16 15:59:38
37.   regfairfield
33 Nomar, Penny, Lowe off the top of my head.
2008-05-16 15:59:53
38.   Dark Horse
31-Wasn't it the good old Bad News Bears field, on Sepulveda, that was suggested? I'd love that, myself.
2008-05-16 16:00:13
39.   Greg Brock
A DT picnic would be splendid. I'll bring the badminton set!

I like badminton.

2008-05-16 16:00:44
40.   blue22
36 - Andruw Jones came the year after they won in '95, correct?
2008-05-16 16:02:10
41.   LogikReader

Oh, yes, that's correct! As for Nomar, I thought he was traded to the Cubs mid-season in '04. Did he still get a ring anyway?

2008-05-16 16:02:20
42.   silverwidow
Pierre DH
Jones, CF
Kemp, RF
Kent, 2B
Martin, 3B
Loney, 1B
Ethier, LF
Maza, SS
Bennett, C
Kuroda, P
2008-05-16 16:02:43
43.   Eric Enders
33 There are six.

Nomar '04 Sox
Lowe '04 Sox
Pierre '03 Marlins
Penny '03 Marlins
Bennett '06 Cards
Schmidt '95 Braves

2008-05-16 16:03:12
44.   fracule
41 I was also counting Nomar, as he was voted a full WS share, and received a ring.
2008-05-16 16:03:32
45.   ToyCannon
It was, but since it is going to be a family affair a place for the kids would be better.
I used to be a killer badminton player, but that was an adult me against unathletic nieces and nephews.
2008-05-16 16:04:30
46.   fracule
43 Nice work. Not sure Bennett was on the team when the article was written, but not checked for facts, none the less.
2008-05-16 16:05:25
47.   ToyCannon
Maza looked good at 2nd and weak at SS so is it small wonder he is starting at SS?

Clear indication that Joe does not think Hu is ready and that he will head back to AAA when Furcal comes off the DL.

2008-05-16 16:05:51
48.   Marty
39 Only if you wear all white.
2008-05-16 16:07:07
49.   Jacob L
As a location for the DT picnic, can I suggest the Elysian Fields/NE Little League area at the top of Elysian Park. Its got ballfields. Its got massive pit bbqs with Santa Maria style crank grill plates. Its got playgrounds for the tots. ITS GOT A PANORAMIC VIEW OF DODGER STADIUM. (Oh, and its 5 minutes from my house).
2008-05-16 16:08:22
50.   ToyCannon
Nice, never would have guessed Schmidt.

Isn't Jeff Kent on that list? No, wait I remember now, something about Dusty giving the game ball to Bob's favorite pitcher and then karma crushed the Giants.

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2008-05-16 16:08:47
51.   Eric Enders
42 It's asking a lot for a team to be able to win with five automatic outs in the lineup (or four if you don't want to count Pierre).

Look, if DeWitt is hurt, then call up LaRoche. Andy LaRoche is actually a better hitter than Gary Bennett, implausible as that may seem.

There is no plausible excuse for playing Luis Maza over Chin-Lung Hu. Not even for one game, and certainly not for two in a row. It's sheer incompetence.

That lineup is almost enough to make me want to root for the Angels tonight. Kuroda must think there's some sort of conspiracy to make sure he never wins another game.

2008-05-16 16:09:18
52.   dodgerstang
Anyone know where the Dodger game will be televised tonight? The official website says KCAL, but so does the Lakers official website. I can't find anywhere that it has been moved to Prime Ticket, but I was hoping to catch the first half at least here at home (no cable). Anyone have the info?
2008-05-16 16:09:20
53.   regfairfield
I could see the sentimental give Maza one start thing, but why two?
2008-05-16 16:11:11
54.   bhsportsguy
Most of the coaching staff got World Series rings as players.

Mariano Duncan - 1990 Reds, 1996 Yankees
Larry Bowa - 1980 Phillies
Rick Honeycutt - 1989 Athletics
Kenny Howell - 1988 Dodgers
Mike Easler - 1979 Pirates

Joe Torre has his 4 as manager of the Yankees

2008-05-16 16:11:51
55.   Jacob L
51 53 Well apparently he can't throw and his hitting is suspect. They probably think he's the next David Eckstein.
2008-05-16 16:11:56
56.   Eric Enders
Everybody who plays for a team in a given year gets a ring, even if they played in only one game and were then traded. Most of the team employees get one, too, trainers, batboys, ushers, assistant GMs, whatever. (Though sometimes lower-level employees only get one if they're willing to pay for it themselves.) It's actually not a very exclusive thing. They must make several hundred rings per year.
2008-05-16 16:15:19
57.   LogikReader

That'd be so great! Work as an intern for a month and get a world series ring. I'm living the dream!!!!


I said it yesterday too, but I'd be really surprised if TONIGHT's lineup scores 3 runs or more.

2008-05-16 16:15:58
58.   bhsportsguy
52 Its only on the Angel broadcast tonight on Fox Sports West. Lakers give Vin 2 more days off.
2008-05-16 16:16:53
59.   Eric Enders
I don't know if interns get them. I'd guess not. Certainly if they did, they'd have to pay for it themselves. It varies from team to team, of course, depending on how cheap the owner is.
2008-05-16 16:17:57
60.   overkill94
So the softball game has been changed to a picnic? I was gonna rock the house!

I'm down for any sort of DT gathering though, especially if there's a piñata involved.

2008-05-16 16:22:04
61.   Eric Enders
Vin has always claimed that he never watches any games on TV when he's not working them. Does anyone else find this completely implausible? Whenever he comes back, he always seems to know the details of the games he missed, including stuff you wouldn't necessarily find in the newspaper.

Not to mention which, he serves on the committee that selects broadcasters for the Hall of Fame's Ford C. Frick Award. If it's true that he never hears any other broadcasters, then that would make him the least qualified person in the country to vote for such an award. From what we know of his integrity, and the amount of homework he does, I find it hard to believe that he'd vote in ignorance.

2008-05-16 16:22:41
62.   ToyCannon
I think a Ned piñata would be awesome. Unless it is Jim Tracy, I still have some issues with him. I'll bring Choi's bat to hit it with.
2008-05-16 16:23:09
63.   ToyCannon
I think a Ned piñata would be awesome. Unless it is Jim Tracy, I still have some issues with him. I'll bring Choi's bat to hit it with.
2008-05-16 16:23:58
64.   Eric Enders
59 If I lived close enough to attend, I would totally bring a Juan Pierre piñata.

Nobody is allowed to hit it hard, of course. Preferably you'd pop it up on the first swing.

2008-05-16 16:24:28
65.   Marty
61 If it's good enough for Joe Morgan...
2008-05-16 16:24:52
66.   ToyCannon
So he's either lying or has no integrity. Maybe he has one of those hollywood assistants who keeps him up to speed on eveything related to his job.
2008-05-16 16:25:18
67.   Eric Enders
Here's what you guys need.

"To have a pinata custom made, you will need to provide us with either an image, photo, fax or an object of the item you want a pinata made of."

2008-05-16 16:25:51
68.   Jacob L
60 I'm guessing that if its a picnic, there will be softball. If its a softball game, there will be picnicking.
2008-05-16 16:26:00
69.   bhsportsguy
BTW, it was reported that the 2007 World Series ring cost about $10,000. Apparently it was the size of a normal men's watch.
2008-05-16 16:26:09
70.   Marty
I doubt we have enough dinero for all the pinatas we would need.
2008-05-16 16:27:48
71.   Jacob L
Oh, and assuming we do play softball, dibs on third base. Unless my back tightens up again.
2008-05-16 16:30:30
72.   bryanf

The World According to Torre/Coletti:

Bennett > LaRoche
Maza > Hu
Pierre > Sweeney > Young

I've been giving Torre a lot of benefits of a lot of doubts, but today's lineup truly baffles me.

2008-05-16 16:30:51
73.   blue22
71 - It wouldn't be a Dodger-themed baseball event without a dinged up third sacker.
2008-05-16 16:33:09
74.   Bob Timmermann
size of a normal men's watch.

So if a man wasn't normal, what size would watch would he get.

What if the man were bipolar? What if he suffered from acromegaly?

2008-05-16 16:33:39
75.   Sammy Maudlin
The last time Maza played shortstop on a regular basis was 2002. He commited 27 errors in 74 games. He hasn't played that position much since.
2008-05-16 16:35:13
76.   Bob Hendley
74 - I am thinking that it must be hard to keep your watch from slipping off.
2008-05-16 16:35:44
77.   Eric Enders
I feel like everybody on the Dodger bench must have closed their eyes yesterday whenever Maza threw to first, because if they'd had them open like I did there's no way he'd be playing that position except in an emergency. And even then he'd be behind Russell Martin on the emergency-shortstop depth chart.
2008-05-16 16:36:09
78.   bryanf
72 On second thought, I haven't given Torre a much benefit of the doubt really. Maybe I've kept my mouth shut a few times, but all year I've been wondering what he's thinking with some of these lineups.

The thing that bothers me the most is the blind "Torre knows what he's doing" mentality. Everyone seems to just assume that whatever he does must be right because he won some World Series with the Yankees. I am losing respect for him more every day, I must admit.

Okay, my ranting is least for now.

2008-05-16 16:38:05
79.   Dark Horse
72-Yep. I wonder almost daily at the fact this team is very, very difficult to root for, despite having more players on it I actually like than any Dodger squad in recent memory. And while Torre's lineups continue to mystify me, in the end I blame Colletti for saddling us with all this dreck. Heading into spring training this year, I was still agnostic on the question of Ned but no more. This team's mediocrity is on his shoulders, and I pray for his firing now every day.
2008-05-16 16:40:25
80.   Dodgers49
Hot-hitting continues

>> The Suns have won four of five. Led by Lucas May's three-run homer, the Suns had seven of their 10 hits in the third inning Thursday, when they scored five times. <<

## Around the bases: The Suns did not commit an error for the sixth consecutive game. ... The Dodgers released Bobby Malek from the organization on Wednesday. ##

%% Suns RHP James McDonald (2-1, 4.02) opposes Barons RHP Kyle McCulloch (1-4, 3.98) in today's (7:05 p.m.) second game of the five-game series. %%

2008-05-16 16:43:10
81.   scareduck
67 - I notice one of the categories at is "Bachelorette Party Supplies".

1) There is no analogue for bachelor parties, which makes me think that these sorts of things involve cakes and/or strippers, both of which are too large to put into an off-the-rack pinata.
2) Left unsaid: what does one put in a bachelorette party pinata?

2008-05-16 16:45:03
82.   scareduck
68 - or lesbians. I understand softball attracts lesbians. I am entertaining grant proposals to discover why.
2008-05-16 16:46:19
83.   underdog
Anyone notice that Diamond Leung kindly answered the question I'd posted in his comments (even though it was partially rhetorical)?

>>"Is there any reason why Delwyn Young is not under consideration as a DH? We know he can hit. Sweeney's a great pinch hitter but doesn't seem to do much when given more than one at bat a game. I don't understand why Pee Wee isn't one of the DH candidates for these AL games."

According to Joe Torre, Delwyn Young's role off the bench becomes even more important at a time like this because of his ability to play the infield since the Dodgers are already thin due to injuries.<<

I knew that would be the answer, but it's not really the one I wanted. How about -- Maza's on the bench, and can fill in where needed, if needed, later? Well, anyway, I suspect we'll see three different lineups this weekend. And DY might be in one of them, but not at DH.

2008-05-16 16:49:44
84.   Dodgers49
Three Portland homers doom 51s

>> The 51s took a 2-0 lead in the first on Andy LaRoche's sacrifice fly and Danny Ardoin's RBI single. <<

## John Lindsey hit his fourth homer of the season in the sixth for Las Vegas, and Xavier Paul belted a two-run shot, his third, in the ninth. ##

2008-05-16 16:50:16
85.   Eric Enders
83 It's nonsense, of course. It's the same excuse, actually, as the one he gave for keeping Kuo in the bullpen. "He's too valuable in this very unimportant role for me to use him in an actual important role." That's what a manager says whenever he doesn't want to say the real answer, which is "I don't think he's very good."
2008-05-16 16:54:54
86.   das411
JAYSON WERTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-05-16 16:55:30
87.   das411 now 2-2, 2 HR, 7 RsBI!
2008-05-16 16:55:42
88.   underdog
Is it time for me to start a Free Pee Wee petition, too?
2008-05-16 16:56:36
89.   underdog
86/87 - Sigh. I hope Icaros isn't around at the moment.
2008-05-16 16:59:17
90.   underdog
Wow. I just realized what a big night this is: Lakers-Jazz Game 6. Dodgers-Angels.

And I still have to finish watching "Lost."

I better finish up work because it's a long night ahead.

2008-05-16 17:01:20
91.   Gen3Blue
74 Ahh I love a problem of where does the modifier belong!
2008-05-16 17:03:35
92.   Gen3Blue
90 And also maybe Celtics vs ----somebody
(probably Cleveland) though you know I don't really care.
2008-05-16 17:04:27
93.   scareduck
29 - why would you think that?
2008-05-16 17:07:44
94.   Gen3Blue
For us on the East Coast, Friday is the worst. Almost 11:00 pm for a Dodger's game.
I figure this is worse than most nights games so they can stuff the big load into the stadiums parking lots.
2008-05-16 17:08:58
95.   scareduck
78 - I've had that problem more or less continuously since Ned took the reins. Frank McCourt makes it tough no matter who the GM is, though DePo was a good buffer.
2008-05-16 17:10:04
96.   scareduck
94 - except that this game is being played at Angels Stadium, so the start time is 10:05 EDT.
2008-05-16 17:13:41
97.   Indiana Jon
Great news for those of us that are Matt Kemp fans. Kemp is has fallen out of the top five players that Dodger management hates. The list now looks something like this.

1. Laroche
2. Hu
3. Ethier
4. Kuo
5. Young

2008-05-16 17:18:09
98.   scareduck
97 - I would argue that Ethier actually heads that list to some degree because IMO there's no question he should be starting, but he splits time with an obviously inferior player.
2008-05-16 17:21:57
99.   Bob Timmermann
The Nationals and Orioles are mixing and matching their announcer for their game tonight.

I would expect the Dodgers and Angels to do this .... never.

2008-05-16 17:22:49
100.   Eric Enders
You know a Scully-Hudler pairing would rock. Especially if Rex shared some of his Silliness.
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2008-05-16 17:24:03
101.   scareduck
And with that, I'm off to the park. Have a fine time, kids.
2008-05-16 17:24:17
102.   Bob Timmermann
I'm thinking that tonight should be a Markas-Gubicza pairing on TV.
2008-05-16 17:24:36
103.   bhsportsguy
97 I really dislike the term hate so remember that as you read my comments.

1. LaRoche, he got hurt in spring training and once he got well Dewitt was playing really well, Andy can only play 3B and on this roster that means you either start or someone (e.g. an outfielder has to go).
2. Hu, I get mixed feelings here on Hu, certainly he can field at an MLB level and he has been spot starting for Kent all season, since Fucal went out, I think he has been exposed a little bit and while I am not giving up on him, I don't think playing Maza ahead of him indicates any displeasure in him.
3. Ethier, okay, I have not agrees with his usage over the last few weeks but I still diaagree with the word hate.
4. Kuo, I think he remains an enigma, if you start him, you need to be ready for an inning where he will throw 25 pitches (which he did in the second inning he pitched against the Mets) and he has yet to show that he is anything but a 5 inning guy. I guess I would start him, though Kuo has said publically, at this point, he has happy to be contributing in any way to the team.
5. He's the 5th outfielder, not many 5th outfielders get to play that much across baseball.

2008-05-16 17:24:38
104.   Ken Arneson
43 If Nomar gets credit for the '04 Sox, then Kent should get credit for the '92 Blue Jays.
2008-05-16 17:25:18
105.   underdog
100 Why did that make me think of The X Files?


But hey, to be positive, Ethier, Kemp and Jones in the outfield tonight! That's something good.

2008-05-16 17:25:22
106.   Bob Hendley
98 - Not sure that PT is always a good indicator, as I think that Druw belongs on that list as well.
2008-05-16 17:26:32
107.   Eric Enders
104 Oh, he should totally get credit for that. I just missed it.
2008-05-16 17:27:56
108.   Ken Arneson
99 The A's and Giants could just trade Kuipers.
2008-05-16 17:28:00
109.   ToyCannon
Johnny Cueto is el fuego.
2008-05-16 17:30:25
110.   das411



2008-05-16 17:31:13
111.   Bob Timmermann
Jayson Werth needs a 2-run homer to homer for the cycle.

3 HRs, 8 RBI, 3 ABs.

2008-05-16 17:31:36
112.   bcg60
From LA Downtown News Online:

Monday, May 19, 7:10 p.m.; Tuesday, 7:10 p.m.; Wednesday, May 21, 7:10 p.m.: The Blue Crew host Cincinnati's Big Red Machine. The Dodgers' new manager, Joe Torre, will battle wits with the Reds' new manager, Dusty Baker, as both try to steer their ball clubs in the right direction. Torre hopes to get outfielder Andre Ethier some consistent at bats, as well as an everyday job in a crowded outfield.

Last I checked, Torre was the manager, why does he have to hope to get him at bats or an every day job? All he has to do is give him back the job he earned and Torre gave him and then took away for no reason. I read in the Press Enterprise that Sweeney has been trying to help Andre deal with things. He said that he's really hard on himself, which has already been mentioned before and that he's trying to get him not to see every at bat as a life or death situation.

I agree they need to bring LaRoche up. Dewitt has earned to stay in the lineup, but Laroche could play shortstop while Raffy is out and Kent hasn't exactly lit the world on fire at second lately.

2008-05-16 17:31:36
113.   ToyCannon
I offered Werth for Andruw Jones 3 weeks ago and was turned down. He traded Jones for Chris Duncan instead. I will buy him a beer with my winnings for turning me down.
2008-05-16 17:31:45
114.   das411 en fuego also apparently...
2008-05-16 17:32:05
115.   Bob Timmermann
And Werth's game tonight is really going to make ToyCannon both sad and angry.
2008-05-16 17:32:15
116.   Eric Enders
McDonald is losing 2-0 in the fourth and Andrew Lambo has an RBI tonight. (I love that the Jacksonville broadcasts give Great Lakes Loons updates.)

Birmingham's Kyle McCulloch is "pitching very well" against the Suns.

2008-05-16 17:32:23
117.   ToyCannon
Has anyone ever done that?
2008-05-16 17:33:26
118.   ToyCannon
Why so?
2008-05-16 17:34:18
119.   Bob Timmermann
Werth's game is the 26th time since 1956 a player has had at least 3 homers and 8 RBI in a game.

Dave Kingman did it three times.

2008-05-16 17:35:15
120.   Bob Timmermann
You always seem to bemoan Werth as "the one that got away."

Which he was.

2008-05-16 17:35:54
121.   Jon Weisman
2008-05-16 17:36:35
122.   Bob Timmermann
Mark Whiten missed out on a 3-run homer in his 4 HR, 12 RBI game.
2008-05-16 17:36:41
123.   Gen3Blue
96 Thank you; that is good news--little more than an hour to go.
2008-05-16 18:13:52
124.   das411
Werth....pops out foul to first in the bottom 7th. Stand down, everybody :(

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