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Starting Pitchers (5)
$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$410,000 Delwyn Young
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*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000

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October 7, 1977
2008-10-06 21:11
by Jon Weisman

Maybe Dodger manager Tom Lasorda is right. Maybe there really is a Big Dodger in the Sky.

What else can account for what went on in the nut house they call Veterans Stadium in South Philly Friday afternoon?

The Dodgers were dead. They were losing to the Phillies, 5-3, with two out in the ninth inning of the National League's World Series preliminary. Eight straight batters had grounded out off relief pitcher Gene Garber, who was making it look easy. A crowd of 63,719 was screaming for the Phillies and jeering the Dodgers.

That was the scene, as described by Times sports editor Bill Shirley, 31 years ago Tuesday.

In the third game of a five-game NL Championship Series that was split 1-1, the Dodgers had scored two runs in the second inning (losing a potential third run when Steve Yeager was thrown out trying to score on pitcher Burt Hooton's double). The Phillies came back to take a 3-2 lead in the bottom of the inning during one of the most famous meltdowns ever by a Dodger pitcher.

Wrote Shirley:

Hooton walked (Ted) Sizemore to fill the bases. Hooton thought he had the next bater, pitcher Larry Christenson, struck out on a 1-2 pitch, but umpire Harry Wendlestedt did not agree. He called it a ball, and Hooton stormed around the mound in disgust. Then he lost his cool and his rhythm. While the notorious Philadelphia fans screamed and taunted him, Hooton walked Christenson, Bake McBride and (Larry) Bowa in succession to force in three runs. The fans loved every minute of it.

Hooton was yanked in favor of Rick Rhoden after walking four straight batters on 21 pitches. With the bases still loaded, Rhoden got (Mike) Schmidt to foul out to catcher Steve Yeager - on one pitch.

Lasorda said he did not think the crowd affected Hooton. The pitcher did not stick around to explain but some of his teammates said they thought it was probably a combination of the crowd and and the call on the pitch to Christenson. It was not a professional performance for a major league pitcher.

The Dodgers weren't down for long, tying the game in the fourth on hits by Ron Cey and Dusty Baker (each of whom hit grand slams - the Dodgers' last in the playoffs for 31 years - in the previous two games). Once again, however, the Dodgers lost a chance for more. With the bases loaded and one out, Rhoden (who had three homers in 1977) hit a fly ball to right field, and McBride threw Baker out at the plate - rather easily, according to Shirley, despite Baker's attempt to jar the ball loose from catcher Bob Boone.

Rhoden pitched 4 1/3 shutout innings in relief, and the game remained tied until the eighth inning, when the deuces went wild for the Philles, who combined two hits with two Dodger errors to score two runs. Poised to win the game was Garber, who nearly six years later, would be the on the mound facing R.J. Reynolds in the next decade's most memorable regular season Dodger game.

Garber got the first two outs. Facing defeat, Lasorda sent up 41-year-old Vic Davalillo, who had been out of the major leagues for nearly three seasons before the Dodgers signed him out of the Mexican League as a free agent in July, to bat for Yeager. The oldest player in the majors, Davalillo was batting .313 with no homers and no walks, so the Phillies knew he wasn't a power threat.

What they didn't know is that he would bunt - a perfect bunt that he beat out for a single.

Davalillo was followed to the plate by Manny Mota, just a few months shy of 40 himself. "Between the two of them, Vic Davalillo and Manny Mota are old enough to be dead," wrote Charles Maher in the Times. Yet in 49 games, Mota was 15 for 38 with a homer, 10 walks and no strikeouts. (His OPS was 1.021.)

Mota hit a long flyball to left field. Deep - but not deep enough. Catchable - but not catchable enough for Greg Luzinski, who got turned around and bungled the ball against the left-field fence. Mota got a double, and when Sizemore let Luzinski's throw into the infield get away, Davalillo scored to cut the Dodgers' deficit to one. Mota landed at third.

Davey Lopes came up. Shirley:

Lopes smashed a ground ball at third baseman Mike Schmidt, who already had made several marvelous plays. But this time, it appeared the ball hit a seam in the artificial turf and bounced off his glove to shortstop Larry Bowa.

Bowa fired the ball to first, almost catching the speedy Lopes, but umpire Bruce Froemming called him safe. On instant replay, it appeared Lopes got at least a tie. Anyway, Mota had scored the tying run and the Phillies were screaming at Froemming.

It was a day for everyone to get flustered. With Bill Russell now at the plate, Garber threw the ball away trying to pick off Lopes, allowing the speedy leadoff man to reach second base. Russell, who would win the 1978 NL pennant for the Dodgers over Philadelphia with a series-ending single up the middle, presaged his feat by knocking a Garner pitch to center field to drive Lopes in with the go-ahead run.

In the bottom of the ninth, the Phillies would get their own two-out chance when reliever Mike Garman hit Lusinski with a pitch. But Richie Hebner grounded out to Steve Garvey at first base, and the Dodgers had come away with an absolutely stunning victory.

After the game, Times writer Don Merry's focus was on Phillies manager Danny Ozark.

While Dodger manager Tom Lasorda was center stage, attempting to explain the weird events of the ninth, Ozark leaned limply against a wall, periodically putting a hand to his face. Then he would stare at the ceiling as if he were asking the man above why him? ... why his team?

While Lasorda discussed his rapport with the heavens, Ozark was feeling like a man exiled to hell. ...

"I certainly won't forget about this one for a while," the manager admitted. "This is a time I think I can bite a six-penny nail in half."

The Dodgers wrapped up the NL pennant the next day, with Tommy John, who had won 20 games with a 2.78 ERA (138 ERA+) in his second season following the surgery that would bear his name, throwing a complete-game seven-hitter. But Game 3 remained the one etched most firmly in the memory of those who lived through that series.

Jim Murray of the Times deserves the final word.

The things that happened to the Phillies should only happen to Idi Amin. Manny Mota, who hit his first home run in (five) years the other day, thought he detected a trend. Normally, in this situation, Manny perceives his job to poke one through the hole into right field and keep the rally going. This one he wound up on as though it were the head of a guy trying to creep in his bedroom window.

I wish I could tell you what happened to that ball. I think Greg Luzinski tried to eat it. It hit the wall, hit his stomach. It ended up some place between first and second base with several Phillies running after it and Manny Mota creaking into third.

Right there God got fed up with the Philies. I mean, He and the Dodgers had done all they could for the home nine. I mean, when you part the waters and they just stand there - well, there's a limit. ...

L.A. had done its level best to gift-wrap the National League pennant and put it under the tree for the Phillies – "To Philadelphia With Love, from Burt, Billy and the Guys."

Never have more generous gestures been made than the Dodgers made for the Phillies. It was heart-warming, an act of selflessness and concern for your fellow man that allowed the Dodgers to walk in several runs, error in a few more. They were the most considerate guests you ever saw. They tried to come home from second standing up on shallow flies and short hits, they messed up double-play balls, they threw the ball in the dugout. You couldn't ask for nicer guys to come visit. They never thought of themselves once. They threw runs at the Phillies like bridal bouquets. The way they were going, you figured they wanted to be able to take this game off their income tax as a charitable deduction. Deducted: one National League pennant, worth, perhaps, $500,000 to a inning team.

The Phils, the ingrates, would not take it. The mink didn't fit right. The new Rolls was the wrong color. Nobody was going to make charity cases out of them, by God. They spurned the Dodgers' best efforts to make them rich. ...

That's how it ended. Dodgers 6, Phillies 5. Thursday, here they go again.

* * *

Back to the present: A commenter has hooked us up with Vin Scully's call of the ninth inning of Dodgers' National League Division Series-clinching victory Saturday, including "the one sweet, beautiful, marvelous" final out.

Meanwhile, Tony Jackson of the Daily News passes this along:

It does appear that the Dodgers' Game 4 starter will depend largely on whether Hong-Chih Kuo is healthy enough to be on the roster for this series. If he is, he'll be the second lefty in the pen and Clayton Kershaw probably will be the fourth starter. If Kuo isn't a go, Kershaw will likely have to be the second lefty in the pen, so Greg Maddux would get the nod in Game 4. Lefty relievers are vital in this series because the Phillies have so many dangerous lefties in their lineup, beginning and ending with N.L. MVP candidate Ryan Howard, who had a monster September.

Presumably, however, Derek Lowe remains a candidate to start Game 4 on three days' rest, which make sense, because thanks to off days, the Dodgers could follow with Chad Billingsley, Hiroki Kuroda and Lowe on regular rest if the final three games are needed.

Ken Gurnick of MLB.com, has more on Kuo.

With Kuo and that left elbow of his, the Dodgers never know for sure. In fact, the departure time for Tuesday's team flight was pushed back an hour so the club can first put Kuo through a morning simulated game as a final test before a roster is submitted Thursday.

Kuo, who has had four operations on his elbow, has pitched once in the past four weeks because of discomfort in his triceps area just above the elbow. He has said the area doesn't bother him throwing but tightens the following day. So even with the simulated game, club officials really won't know about Kuo until Wednesday's workout at Citizens Bank Park.

Nonetheless, Kuo and the club were relieved on Monday that the elbow felt fine after being put through his first bullpen session in three weeks on Sunday. Kuo said he threw hard off the mound and felt fine Monday.

"I'm ready," said Kuo.

* * *

Jackson reported that every NLCS game except Game 2 will start at 5 p.m. Pacific time.

Comments (170)
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2008-10-06 21:22:54
1.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Done deal. I'm taking off of work on Friday to watch the game. Such an early start, sheesh.
2008-10-06 21:26:09
2.   John Hale
I had no idea of what it was like from the Philly perspective. I feel a little guilty of how much that series meant to me.
It was called "black friday"?

The Fall of the 1977 Phillies: How a Baseball Team's Collapse Sank a City's Spirit (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Fall-1977-Phillies-Baseball-Collapse/dp/0786432179

2008-10-06 21:33:39
3.   Bob Timmermann
At least Jerry Martin finally got into the game a pinch runner.
2008-10-06 21:37:50
4.   bhsportsguy
I was in my first year in high school though we were called sophomores. And it was a day game in Philly so the crucial moments came during lunch.

I listened to that game at school. I had to imagine the bunt, the fly ball that "The Bull" gored and then Russell's winning hit.

I didn't see the clincher either because I was out but I listened. It might have been the worst weather a game of that importance had been played in.

2008-10-06 21:39:30
5.   Gagne55
"Bruce Froemming"

Wow. He's been around a long time.

2008-10-06 21:44:02
6.   Bob Timmermann
Froemming retired after last season.

I listened to Game 3 during lunch at De La Salle Elementary School. I got home in time to see the 9th inning. Although I missed Russell's hit because I had to go to the bathroom.

2008-10-06 21:44:44
7.   waterboy100
1 sounds like a good idea
2008-10-06 21:45:18
8.   Robert Fiore
God, I can still see Greg Luzinski in my mind's eye, waving at that ball with his glove as it went over his head. My biggest thrill as a Dodger fan -- Manny was my favorite Dodger back then. And to think we used to be able to read Jim Murray the day after the game rather than Bill Plaschke. Enough to make you sick.

A couple of years ago Mota was with a trade group from the Dominican Republic that was visiting my office, and my boss didn't tell me about it until after they left. I could have killed him . . .

2008-10-06 21:46:24
9.   LAT
Jim Murray would be rolling over if he could see what has become of the LA Times Sports section. He was the best. I wish I was old enough to really appreciate the holy trilogy of Murray, Scully and Hern.
2008-10-06 21:51:41
10.   Gagne55
6 He did? I didn't realize that.
2008-10-06 21:51:57
11.   MollyKnight
Listening to Scully's call was a real treat. Thanks to Jon and the other patriots who made that happen.
2008-10-06 21:53:42
12.   bobsbrother
Ozark should have made a defensive replacement for Luzinski. The guy had no business being in the game at that point.

And did the Times spell his name with an "s", or was that an error in conversion?

2008-10-06 21:58:17
13.   DBrim
11 - Seconded.

I have a midterm on Friday morning. It'll be done in time to watch the game, but Thursday night might not be the most conducive environment for studying.

2008-10-06 22:00:10
14.   Jacob Burch
6 Was it a Trough?
2008-10-06 22:10:50
15.   Jimmyv11
11. I was not able to hear the recording for some reason it would only play 13 seconds of the beginning anyone help me out here?
2008-10-06 22:11:13
16.   Bob Timmermann
14
My parents used toilets at home.
2008-10-06 22:13:11
17.   Jacob Burch
16 I made this joke only half noting the poster was Bob. That is far too much dead-horse joke beating at Bob's expense. I apologize.

I have been in a house with a back-less toilet that resembled a personal trough of some kind. It was in the middle of nowhere, Indiana.

2008-10-06 22:15:04
18.   LAT
Isn't a back-less toilet in the middle of nowhere, Indiana really just a hole in the backyard?
2008-10-06 22:15:41
19.   LAT
Isn't a back-less toilet in the middle of nowhere, Indiana really just a hole in the backyard?
2008-10-06 22:15:42
20.   Bob Timmermann
12
Error in transcription.

It was a race against Ross Newhan!

2008-10-06 22:16:45
21.   LAT
Oops. It wasn't funny enough for one post never mind two.
2008-10-06 22:17:20
22.   Jacob Burch
18 There was metal or porcelain involved.

I was little and at a local barn concert. Journey was covered.

2008-10-06 22:18:15
23.   Jacob Burch
I like the name of "A Race Against Ross Newhan" for a book.
2008-10-06 22:21:08
24.   Tripon
http://rapidshare.com/files/151633741/Cubs_lose_to_Dodgers2008.mp3.html

I uploaded the file to a free hosting service to help the guy's bandwidth out.

2008-10-06 22:24:50
25.   LAT
Metal or porcelain involved.
A local barn concert.
Journey was covered.

Sounds a lot like Dodger Stadium last Sat. night. Ok, maybe not a barn concert but Journey was covered.

2008-10-06 22:33:19
26.   Jimmyv11
24. thank you very much, i was thinking at the end of this game i wonder what Vin is saying.
2008-10-06 22:41:31
27.   Tripon
Blue Jays claimed Dick Hayhurst from the Padres.
2008-10-06 22:52:26
28.   Eric Stephen
Two more days without baseball? I'm going to end up like one of the "Wake Up and Smile!" anchors after their teleprompter malfunctioned.
2008-10-06 23:03:11
29.   Tripon
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-furcal100608&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Tim Brown writes a Furcal story.

2008-10-06 23:09:27
30.   Linkmeister
I was on Kwajalein for that NLCS. I got back the following March, so I saw the 1978 games.
2008-10-06 23:12:55
31.   Tripon
ESPN says the game won't start until 5:22, so there's going to be a lot of chatter before then.
2008-10-06 23:14:44
32.   Tripon
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/manny-looking-f.html

Scott Boras wants 5 years and 85 million for Manny.

2008-10-06 23:15:10
33.   LogikReader
One small note about the Vin clip linked above:

I noticed Vin didn't allow for some silence after Broxton's last out like he usually does. I think a big part of this is Vin doesn't think the Dodgers are done yet. It's one step to a larger goal. That's a good thing.

Imagine Daron Sutton trying to call a similar moment for the D'backs. He'd be all over the place... for winning an LDS. As great as it is, it's still just step one in the long playoff journey.

2008-10-06 23:16:37
34.   Linkmeister
Thanks to whomever found that clip, and to Jon for linking it, and to Tripon for uploading to a free service.
2008-10-07 00:01:59
35.   The Dude Abides
If that's what Boras wants, why not offer 3 yrs/$66m plus a player option for the fourth year at $19m? If Manny decides he wants to go somewhere else after three years for more money, then Lambo moves into our outfield.
2008-10-07 00:28:58
36.   ryu
13 Worse situation here. Game 1 on Thursday I will (or should) be studying for my midterm on Friday. Game 2 I'll be taking the midterm.

Sucks.

2008-10-07 00:50:12
37.   waterboy100
32 ive seen worse deals handed out...furcal and jones spring to mind
2008-10-07 00:50:23
38.   waterboy100
whoops. i mean pierre and jones
2008-10-07 01:19:07
39.   DBrim
38 - Furcal hasn't exactly been a shining star of a deal, either. Had he remained healthy, it would have been a different story, though, since he is certainly capable of living up to the money that was given to him (unlike the other two).
2008-10-07 03:27:57
40.   Benjamin Miracord
Please forgive me is this has been previously posted.

Terry Cashman ("Talkin' Baseball") has a new song about Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: "Manny Being the Man."

Among other things, the New-York native sings, "Now you got all the kids believing it too." And I think we all know whom he's talking about.

http://tinyurl.com/46e2kb

From the New York Daily News.

2008-10-07 06:10:44
41.   ChicagoDodger
That was such a great memory. I started reliving that memory on Sunday after the Phillies had won, even reading up on it on Sunday. That game kept in my mind for many years to come the thought that "it's never over". If they could come back from that, they could come back from anything.

Dodgers beat the Phillies 3-1 the next year as well, so this really is like 70's all over again. Familiar foe. Familiar outcome? Let's hope!

5 years $85 million for Manny seems a bargain. I figured it would be at least $100 million for 4 years. But those are just rumors.

2008-10-07 06:38:44
42.   Ken Noe
32 41 And let the negotiations begin: Word, however, is that the Dodgers realize he doesn't fit their long-term needs. A defensive liability in a ballpark that puts an emphasis on defense doesn't compute over the long-term, and Ramirez is looking for a five-year deal.
2008-10-07 06:56:49
43.   JoeyP
In the AL, its two new-school Sabermetric teams in the ALCS: Boston & Tampa.
Epstein vs Friedman.

In the NL, its two old-school traditional teams in the NLCS: LA & Philly.
Colletti vs Gillick.

2008-10-07 06:59:43
44.   seesdifferent
imho it would be a big mistake to start Kershaw v. the Phillies, who lit him up previously. The kid is 20 years old, fcs.
2008-10-07 07:06:40
45.   regfairfield
43 I don't know if the Phillies count since their loaded with TTO hitters and play some quality defense.
2008-10-07 07:11:41
46.   seesdifferent
The Dodgers are paying Jones, Schmidt, Loiza, Garciaparra, Penny and Pierre way more than, for example, the entire Oakland A's roster. I'm sure they will make a smart decision on Manny.

I know, rule 7 violation.

2008-10-07 07:25:24
47.   Jon Weisman
Yeager sues:

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/sports/story.html?id=6ea93988-517f-4efe-bf7b-5e072ba4c5d3

2008-10-07 07:31:22
48.   JoeyP
45- I was more talking about just GMs.
Gillick has been around forever.

Their offense does look really OPS'y.
Howard, Utley, Burrell, Werth can all bash the ball.

Victorino & Rollins arent bad either for their positions. And Rollins was MVP last season.
Dobbs/Feliz is a decent platoon at 3b.

From the pitching side though, I doubt many GMs would have traded for Joe Blanton to pitch in the Phillies park.

2008-10-07 07:59:23
49.   cargill06
The 1:35 start on Friday makes no sense. They are neglecting one side of the country. If you start the Bos @ TB at 2 PM PST/ 5 EST that a large majority of that market can see the game, than you start the LA @ Phi game at 515 PST/ 815 EST and most of both markets can see both games. It is a Friday night so a late finish on the east coast shouldn't be a problem.

I'm sure baseball has marketing guys that are much smarter than I, what could their reasoning be for not doing that?

2008-10-07 08:05:12
50.   Bob Hendley
30 - I actually know where that is. Never been there, but have been to Johnston Is. and to the Marshalls.
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2008-10-07 08:06:12
51.   Bob Timmermann
There are two different networks showing the LCS. They didn't want to have a conflict this year because, presumably, the past times when there were conflicts ended up hurting both networks.

The Rays-Sox game pretty much has to be in prime time since it's going to be the more popular series.

2008-10-07 08:08:26
52.   Bob Timmermann
The ALCS has two day games. Game 3 would be Monday at 1:37 pm PT so it doesn't conflict with Monday Night Football. Game 6 would start at the same time, although it would move to a night start if the NLCS doesn't go to a Game 7.
2008-10-07 08:17:00
53.   cargill06
Watching Jon Lester last night, all I could do was think about Kershaw and drool. Lester walked more people per 9 last year at 23 than Kershaw did this year at 20. Kershaw also misses more bats than Lester does, if Clayton can refine his control much like Lester did this year... :-)
2008-10-07 08:45:59
54.   Johnny Nucleo
Now that the Dodgers have advanced and the Angels have been eliminated, I'm a little confused.

Is the Angel Way still the Dodgers Way, or is the Dodgers Way now the Angel Way? Or are the Dodgers back to playing baseball the Dodger Way?

Could someome please explain?

2008-10-07 08:48:10
55.   Marty
I remember the Tommy John rain-storm game more than the Davalillo game for some reason. That game was when I learned they will do anything to get a post-season game in.
2008-10-07 08:49:37
56.   capdodger
54 Bill Plaschke will be stopping by your house shortly to explain everything to you.
2008-10-07 08:55:01
57.   Bumsrap
54 - If it isn't obvious, maybe, maybe, it is a combination of both
2008-10-07 08:58:07
58.   underdog
On ESPN's First Take, Skip Bayless just revealed himself to seriously loathe the Dodgers and Manny. When asked who they want to seein the World Series, he said he wants Dodgers-Red Sox, so the Red Sox can sweep LA and humiliate them and Manny goes 0 for 16. Then he said he doesn't even think they'll beat the Phillies anyway. The other two guys predicted Dodgers-Red Sox, too, but aren't rooting against the Dodgers if that were the case.

If anyone cares. Not sure why anyone would care what Skip Bayless says.

2008-10-07 09:01:06
59.   Branch Rickey
47 Maybe they ran out of money paying for all of the words in that title.
2008-10-07 09:02:30
60.   FirstMohican
Woah weird: last night I re-watched The Last King of Scotland.
2008-10-07 09:04:32
61.   LogikReader
58

I won't completely dis' Skip Bayless. He's wrong about almost everything. By the way, that is a really ridiculous reason to "loathe the Dodgers."

Anyway, Skip Bayless, as I recall, predicted LAKER DOMINATION going into the Finals this summer. We all know how that turned out.

2008-10-07 09:06:18
62.   Disabled List
Unfortunately, it looks like I won't be able to attend the games down in Philly this week. The Dodgers will be playing playoff games 90 minutes away from me, and I'll be watching them on TV, as usual.

Stupid work.

2008-10-07 09:09:58
63.   Tripon
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/

BP has the latest WS odds.

Red Sox: 32.8%
Rays: 27.9%
Dodgers: 20.2%
Phillies: 19.1%

2008-10-07 09:11:14
64.   Tripon
Isn't Skip Bayless from Chicago? He might still be hurt that his two teams are now out of the playoffs.
2008-10-07 09:11:44
65.   Jim Hitchcock
What a difference a week makes.

I put $20.00 down for the Cubs series, and got back $58.00.

Put that $58.00 down for the Phillies series, and got even money.

2008-10-07 09:12:03
66.   underdog
61 Indeed, so I'm certainly not worried about it. He definitely jinxed the Lakers. Even I knew he was wrong when he was predicting Lakers domination. I sometimes wonder about some of the panelists ESPN gets on their shows. How does Woody Paige get to be an "expert"?
2008-10-07 09:18:53
67.   oshea2002
61 - Skip picked them to lose to Denver. He also picked them to lose to SA. I'm not sure on Utah. Skip hates the Dodgers, Lakers, and USC, and conversely, I hate him. The only team of mine he doesn't hate is Al and the Raiders, which is even more ridiculous. He still regards Al as the smartest man in the NFL.
2008-10-07 09:29:38
68.   Ken Noe
The ultimate symbol of how far ESPN has fallen is:
(a) Skip Bayless
(b) Jay Mariotti
(c) Kenny Mayne
(d) Stuart Scott
2008-10-07 09:34:18
69.   Ken Noe
Engaged? Don't invite Brandon Backe to your wedding.
http://tinyurl.com/4hzcnr
2008-10-07 09:36:25
70.   Kuo-fax
44 - Seems to me that Kershaw learns more with every start. I'd like to see how he adjusts to Philly this time. How bad was he last time?

Besides, I think we are that much better as a team with Kuo in the pen, Kershaw as the 4th starter, with Maddux and Park, safely on the bench, there to come in if he is too wild.

Just my 2 cents.

2008-10-07 09:54:13
71.   Kevin Lewis
32

I was expecting 4 yr/100 million. So, do you sign him for 5 expecting a good 3 years and then a platoon for the last 2?

The total isn't bad, but the time is what worries me.

2008-10-07 10:11:49
72.   Daniel Zappala
Humbug points to Zack Hample -- pretty amazing story:

http://snaggingbaseballs.mlblogs.com/

2008-10-07 10:12:29
73.   Kevin Lewis
Are there any other FA pitchers we will be looking at next season?
2008-10-07 10:19:10
74.   wronghanded
Scott Miller at CBS Sportsline has a fair assessment of the NLCS matchup:

Nobody is playing better than the Dodgers right now. If Philadelphia is to win this series, the Phillies must get the 'A' game out of starters Brett Myers, whose temperament is unpredictable, and Jamie Moyer, whose breaking pitches can be unpredictable. Moyer and lefty Cole Hamels both will be big in attempting to neutralize Dodgers lefties Andre Ethier and James Loney, who have matured more as hitters in the past six weeks than they had in the previous six months. Part of that is the presence of Manny Ramirez in the No. 3 hole -- he's changed this lineup more than any single hitter has with any other team. Both teams will be well rested to start, which should make for an entertaining series. Derek Lowe in Game 1 could set the tone for L.A. because his sinker, which results in ground balls, is tailor made for a home run haven like Citizens Bank Park. Chad Billingsley is the best pitcher nobody knows about. Hiroki Kuroda is coming off of a lights-out outing against the Cubs. That's why Philadelphia's staff must step up: The Dodgers led the NL in ERA this summer (Philadelphia was fourth). Los Angeles ranked 13th in the NL in runs scored, home runs and slugging percentage (the Phillies were second, first and second), but so much of that was compiled before Ramirez and Casey Blake joined the team. Dodgers reliever Jonathan Broxton will be key in this series as well, because manager Joe Torre still appears to distrust Takashi Saito, who was the closer before getting hurt. Ryan Howard vs. Ramirez is a heavyweight battle of the titans. Rock 'em, sock 'em. It's a throwback series -- these two clubs dueled in the NLCS in both 1977 and 1978 (the Dodgers won both in four games, back when the LCS was a best-of-5 format).

2008-10-07 10:21:37
75.   Eric Stephen
The Wrong Stuff

I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't know Steve Yeager was the nephew of Chuck Yeager.

If the former Dodger catcher had an autobiography, I would like to read it:

1) nephew of Chuck Yeager
2) inventor of neck guard
3) 3B coach in Major League

2008-10-07 10:25:37
76.   Fish
Anyone just catch this one by Olney?

"Josh (AZ): Hey Buster! Earlier you said you would take Joe Mauer if you were starting a team. I am intersted to know which pitcher you would take for your pitching staff?

Buster Olney: (1:18 PM ET ) Josh: Depends on what you were looking for -- a team that could win now, or a team that you were building. If it were a team that would win now, I'd go with Halladay or Sabathia or Santana. For a team that would win long-term, I might go Jon Lester, who just keeps getting better and better and better, or Chad Billingsley."

2008-10-07 10:28:15
77.   Branch Rickey
A defensive liability in a ballpark that puts an emphasis on defense doesn't compute over the long-term
So much about this article is ridiculous. First, how is it that Manny does so much to make this team a winner over two months but that won't play out over the "long term"?
Also, Manny isn't getting five years. The fact that Boras gave that number to a writer in October has as little to do with what will actually happen as our speculation. The fact that he said $85M (if he in fact said any of this) and not $120M is encouraging. I'm sure Borirez would rather take less years, money being equal because, who wouldn't? So if 5/85 is his opening shot... 3 to 4 at 75 is realistic and that's what I'd guess we could/should pay him.
2008-10-07 10:29:01
78.   Jacob L
75 I don't want to spend any more time gushing about Yeager. Check the "Cardboard Gods" archive for a pretty fun discussion.
2008-10-07 10:35:05
79.   Alex41592
Eric Neel story on Furcal is on the homepage of ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=neel_eric&id=3630320

2008-10-07 10:36:31
80.   Humma Kavula
Interesting question upthread: does Manny Ramirez fit the long-term needs of the Dodgers? The reasons he might not are cited: he's in his late thirties and his defense is very, very suspect.

But are those reasons unique to the Dodgers? I don't want to get into a fight about whether Manny's defense will outweigh his offensive production -- though I realize that this is probably the biggest question to answer. No, my question is, assuming that it makes sense for ANY team to sign Manny to an $85/5 deal, is there any reason that the Dodgers, in s