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Assuming 14 position player spots on the 25-man roster, here's a non-pitching update of last month's assessment of the Dodger roster:
Locks (11)
Starting Lineup (8): Dioner Navarro, Nomar Garciaparra, Jeff Kent, Rafael Furcal, Bill Mueller, J.D. Drew, Kenny Lofton, Jose Cruz, Jr.
Bench (3): Ricky Ledee, Olmedo Saenz, Sandy Alomar Jr.
Most Likely to Succeed (3):
Ramon Martinez, IF - General manager Ned Colletti's pet has polished his apple in Spring Training, OPS-ing over 1.000. Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me three times ...
Jason Repko, OF: Similar story, incumbent version. Repko plays all three outfield positions, is a right-handed bat in a lefty-dominated outfield, scans as "Likeable" on the department store register and has had a great March (until the past few days).
Oscar Robles, IF: Until Izturis gets back, Robles will win out for having held his own this month (.825 OPS). He wears his .250 batting average the way Tony Randall proudly donned his ascot on "The Odd Couple."
Still in the Running (3)
Andre Ethier, OF: Definitely has made a positive impression. He's the right Repkoian age for a promotion, and the Dodgers might not mind having something tangible to show for the Milton Bradley trade on Opening Day. The 25th man decision could come down to Ethier vs. Robles. Certainly, Ethier is in line for the inevitable post-injury callup.
Joel Guzman, OF: His spring has been an adulterated success. He's not perfect in the outfield or at the plate - one walk, seven strikeouts in 29 plate appearances - but he has done decently (.845 OPS) and shown a good attitude toward his position change. The Ned Colletti/Grady Little Dodgers don't seem like the kind to put a guy like this in the spotlight right away, so expect they'll let him chase a few fly balls in Las Vegas for a while.
Cody Ross, OF: Out of options, Ross has put up a valiant effort with three March home runs. The Dodgers could decide to let Ethier and Guzman play full-time in the minors, stash or dump Robles and give Ross a second chance following his disappointing 2005 as a 25th man - then quickly dispose of him and his connection to former Dodger general manager Paul DePodesta should Ross not take advantage.
Back up the Dumptruck (1)
Hee Seop Choi, 1B: Probably needed to bat .500 in the World Baseball Classic to hold his spot. Instead, he's 3 for 14. There doesn't appear to be a significant voice left in the organization that wouldn't prefer anyone at first base but him. Despite Nomar Garciaparra's 3 for 23, no-walk March so far, only an injury would appear to be able to save Choi now. (In fact, James Loney's decent play may have rendered Choi completely irrelevant to the team's eyes.)
To the Minors, With Love (7+)
Tony Abreu, IF: Guzman's conversion from shortstop to the outfield has the domino effect of helping keep playing time available in Las Vegas for the young second baseman.
Willy Aybar, IF: Aybar's quiet spring - broken only today by a two-run, extra-inning home run - while the so-called proven veterans have shone, will send him back to the minors. Worth noting, however: a team-high six walks.
Matt Kemp, OF: Made a great first impression on the new leadership - though perhaps you'll be shocked to learn he's only 4 for 28 in March with no walks - but he could rise quickly.
Andy LaRoche, 3B: Had that big six-RBI inning in the first week; otherwise not much production so far. Of course, he was never expected to do anything but start in Las Vegas.
James Loney, 1B: As hinted at earlier, he may have succeeded in establishing himself not as a backup on the 25-man roster, but more importantly, as the primary starter should Garciaparra go down. On the other hand, Cesar Izturis' rapid recovery from injury could awaken the dormant plans to move Jeff Kent to first base.
Russell Martin, C: Has outperformed Navarro this spring, but the Dodgers aren't getting carried away - yet.
Delwyn Young, OF: The other former infielder has three singles in 25 plate appearances in exhibition play, confirming his ticket to AAA.
Fodder (1+)
Chris Truby, 1B-3B: Unlike Martinez, he is stuck in this category like flies on taffy.
Disabled List (2):
Cesar Izturis, Jayson Werth
I wonder how much it would cost some enterprising team with a hole at first base to get Choi from the Dodgers. I'm betting two corndogs and Baltic Avenue, at most.
poppycock
Sele would get plenty of work in that role. What would a Dodger team be without another Giovanni Carrara?
Alomar .250 .287 .322
Martinez .258 .311 .341
Repko .250 .305 .418
Robles .264 .340 .374
The Dodgers should trade him now while his perceived value is still that of a "very good-hitting SS" and they could get more in return for him than the equivalent of a "decent-hitting outfielder."
Nice assessement, Jon - seems pretty accurate to me. I'm actually fairly happy with the depth here, considering the # of guys having good springs who still won't make the starting team but would be in line to help out should someone get injured (as you said, inevitably).
I actually think Sele could be this year's Elmer Dessens, which wouldn't be such a bad thing, especially because it seems like Billingsley and co. could benefit from a little more seasoning.
I'm glad they have more OF depth now - especially since, again, inevitably someone will get hurt or lose favor.
I predict R Martin will be up catching for them at the season's mid-way point, with Alomar out and Pat Borders hopefully coaching in Florida.
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Let ED = Sele being this year's Elmer Dessens
Let SE = Sele being this year's Scott Erickson
Let P(X) = Probability of X occuring
P(SE) >>>>> P(ED)
But I think the probabilities are pretty well-defined. I think the pitching is much more up in the air, which is why I've held off on updating that.
But Mueller has more experience...
1 Our bench may seem weak, but if there are any injuries we have guys in the minors to step up so that the reserves can remain reserves. Ledee and Saenz is a good L-R punch off the bench as well.
If it were up to me, we wouldn't have Mueller and Nomar would play third with Aybar as a capable backup. Now that we have Mueller, we should use him.
Plus, your math doesn't add up, we'd still be short a CF and SP with no money left to spend.
"Chooooooooiiiiiiiiii!!!!"
Or perhaps like Michael on "Lost"
"Heeeeeeeee-Seoppppppppppppppp!!!"
I believe this because most of the stuff being posted by bluetotheextreme has been complete idiocy.
It won't get easier for Choi tonight as Dontrelle Willis is starting.
He's a lefty with weird arm angles.
Then again, Canada beat the (insert euphemism here) out of him.
As a Jays fan, I have to question your opinion about Ted Lilly.
#1 on your list (increasing K rate) is false, because his K rate was steady from 2003 to 2004, then dropped (from 7.67 to 6.85)
#2 doesn't sound right. "Durable" seems wrong, because Lilly missed all of August last year with biceps problems, and had complained of wrist soreness and shoulder soreness at various points in the season. He's also missed Spring Training two years in a row with injuries. "Innings eater" doesn't seem to describe him either, because he averaged only 5 innings per start last year.
As for the AL east thing, that's a mirage. He pitches very well against Boston, and his worst starts last year were against teams like Seattle, Kansas City, and Washington. The Yankees do crush him, though.
More subjectively, if you check Jays blogs about him, you get comments like "Uncoachable. Stubborn. Million-dollar-arm, ten-cent head" and "he's a wuss. He won't listen to his coaches, either"
I like Lilly, but Dodger Stadium would do nothing to help his home run rate, either.
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The more I think about it, the more I think the Dodgers should trade Guzman ASAP. Unless I'm mistaken, his primary value (and highly-rated prospect status) stemmed from being a very good-hitting SS. Now, he's a merely a decent-hitting outfielder.
That's what i've been saying for the longest time, i allways wanted guzman to stay a shortstop, can you imagine the dodgers having a shortstop with 30+ hr potential.
But i still don't want the dodgers to trade him tho.
Maybe if we keep drew and add a couple power hitting outfield free agents, we can move guzman back to shortstop or to 2b, and either trade furcal or put furcal at 2b or leave furcal at ss, in the future.
I have a feeling penny lowe perez seo tomko gagne baez brazoban carter wunsch hamulack are going to be our 11 pitchers.
And navarro alomar nomar saenz kent furcal mueller drew cruz lofton ledee are 11 position locks, with either ross or repko and either robles or martinez as locks.
And the 25th man is going to be an up and down thing from the minors to the majors and vice versa depending on if the team needs an extra position player or an extra reliever.
whats wrong with a RF that hits 30 homeruns? obviously, 30 homerun shortstops are rare, but its not like 30 homerun RFers grow on trees.
How many starting RFs last year hit 30 homeruns? im guessing not even half.
out of the 27 players, 12 were outfielders.
out of the 12 outfielders, 4 were right fielders.
Yea but 25 hr outfielders do grow on trees.
And that's 5 hr's less than 30.
30 hr shortstops never grow on trees, unless your name is alex rodriguez.
What about 2b in the future for guzman, we could have another kent.
Actually i would think 2b would be a good position for him, long legs and long arms getting to the balls hit between 2b and 1b.
You could add drew to that list if he would have stayed healthy, and i would assume you could add even more outfielders who didn't stay healthy.
One hallmark of Asperger's is that a person can obsessively focus on one task. Which may not be a bad thing for some pro athletes. It may not be great if you're in a team sport though because there are elements of cooperation necessary.
Sounds like something for a tennis player.
he is not going to play 3b because of laroche.
dewitt will be the 2b of the future.
You don't have to go 5 to get credit for a win.
"Asperger syndrome can involve an intense and obsessive level of focus on things of interest."
i could add my grandmother on that list if he wasnt dead and could hit a baseball.
same logic there. of course a ton of players have the ability to hit 30 homeruns in a season. but in reality, its not as common as people think.
1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. Marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction.
2. Failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level.
3. A lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people (e.g.,boring by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people).
4. A lack of social or emotional reciprocity.
2. Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. Encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal in either intensity or focus.
2. Apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals.
3. Stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger flapping or twisting or complex whole-body movements).
4. Persistent preoccupation with parts of objects.
3. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
4. There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age two years, communicative phrases used by age three years).
5. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills or adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
6. Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.
I think most of us are OK.
1) the kid who nailed six three-pointers in a game earlier this month.
2) Thomas ("Shoot the ball, Thomas"), the Carver High peanut from "The White Shadow."
And we never found out if the kid made the basket in that episode of "White Shadow".
I need closure!
http://wsuathletics.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/031206aab.html
Oddly enough, that didn't dissuade anyone last night from following the Korea-Mexico game here.
.304/.429/.435
Yes that is Repko's line for this spring, and yes he is 2nd on the team in walks with 4!
Where did you get those HR numbers? Interesting breakdown.
In a Guzman thread you ran some interesting age-specific splits on Double-A players. I love that kind of stuff -- where do you find it
Sorry--but I can't help liking a player who can run and throw, like yes--Repko.
Well: its better to have terrible choices to make some years.
Hey--is anyone else uncomfortable that maybe things are going too well this spring??
I would take Repko over D. Young as a reserve OF.
there were some blurry lines- like adam dunn and miguel cabrera, players who were OFs last yr but will move to the infield this year. But i counted them as part of the 30+ hr outfield group.
At the same time, however, there are virtually no conditions under which s/he won't.
That said, I'm not sure what they do with him. He really needs to get a shot to play so a good evaluation can be done. I just got my copy of Baseball Prospectus and I agree with their statement (paraphrasing) that the biggest waste of the Dodger season was wasting Jason Phillip's at bats when we could have found out if Hee Sop Choi was a MLB player.
Thomas Carter of course became king of the directing pilots, one of his most famous was Miami Vice.
Thanks
Agreed.
BP was way off the mark in its LAD overview last year but they nailed that one. The spiting of Choi/Depo in favor of Phillips was despicable. And I say that as a Choi doubter.
The manager's nickname is Grittle. My blog is The Griddle. Just to be clear.
BTW, Choi is not starting tonight for Korea against Willis.
Sorry on the Gridde/Grittle. I'll think of tobacco spittle and never misidentify Grady again.
It's OK. Ironic when you consider how much Little dislikes the WBC.
Big Bucks, No Whammies, and STOP!
Plays folksy pop music and currently all the rage in Inglaterra. She won a Brit (British version of the Grammys) for best British solo female artist. Personally prefer her American counterparts such as Tanya Donelly or Laura Cantrell.
And to be all about me, if you look at the map on that site I linked, my house would be on there, but it's covered up by the inset map of all DC in the upper right. My house would be basically right under the faint tiny reference to Arlington Cemetary.
http://www.aprilwinchell.com/
http://kr.wbc.sports.yahoo.com/sports/wbc/index.html?ac=matchcast&gid=22
the broadcast is in korean.
but better live in korean than three hours delayed in english, no?
Some of us expressed our elation at The Griddle. Plus, the site seems to be loading pretty slowly tonight.
If this were football, and we were evaluating QB's, I'd agree.
Steve, you OK?
. . .
Steve?
Meanwhile, that Hee-Seop Choi has a hole in his swing a mile wide and a fathom deep.
It wasn't so much a hole in his swing as it was swinging at balls 3 and 4. No one could have hit those pitches.
111, 113 Well, on game day it looked like a long looping slow oh never mind.
Reg -- maybe you should add that hit to your FAQ under the part where people say he gets meaningless home runs in spots that don't matter. This was a close game when hit that shot.
http://tinyurl.com/edtyv
Now, how can it be a "proper lead" if you get picked off at first base?
What a loser.
It looks like I'll be in D.C. for a few days at the end of April. I'd like to try to get over to the site and try to imagine how it will look.
Shoot me an email if you like before you come. DC is not at all a food town, but I can tell you a good place to get a burrito. sam.brodsok@comcast.net.
Thats trollish behavior.
Or Kenny Lofton...Or Jason Repko...
When there's huge money, often public money, invovled, I guees you go with the proven winner, but who's going to come from out of town, or pay a premium to attend games at these parks, when every city has got one. You'd especially think that DC would go in a different direction when Baltimore is within easy driving distance.
Its not that these are bad ballparks, per se, but enough already.
I wonder why Craig Wilson hasnt been discussed? Horrible defense but good pop from a team that sorely needs some added offense. Maybe HSC for Wilson, Tracy would cringe!
http://tinyurl.com/mhnyp
thats me! nooo, i really sad. the vikings cant seem to do anything right.
and im going to vouch one for oldbear. that bluetotheextremeguy isnt actually here to discuss the dodgers intelluctually.
the vikes did commit to him: a huge contract (10 yr/$102M) with an $8M increase just two years into the deal. then daunte asks for $10M more after missing most of the season with a knee injury.
he didn't perform - he made bad reads, bad decisions, and just didn't play well before his injury this year. this was made the more obvious by brad johnson's performance after daunte went down.
hopefully, he does well in miami, as he is tremendously talented, but speaking for a lot of the viking fans up here in minny: good riddance.
re 165
its not how he played last season and its not the injury, its how the new vikings management handled it. the thing is, they did not handle it. they absolutely blew it. when you have the owner saying one thing, and the head coach talking about maybe releasing him, that is not a united front.
it should have never came to this. but they alienated pep so bad that the worse situation arosed.
i am now defending pep. he is a moron asking for more money but this situation could have been diffused and not so blown up like it was.
also, peps salary isnt very high. thats why he wanted to restructure it, it is all filled up with hidden nonreachable incentives. But he does havea 6 mil roster bonus due the 24th that the dolphins will now have to pay. we need a QB of the future!
http://www.dodgers.cc/index.php?showtopic=1246&hl=
This is a writeup of my burrtio place, it's new, yet a dive. http://tinyurl.com/ouu4x
175 - Cactus Cantina is decent, but I miss a good "roach coach" taco or burrito.
Alero's on Connecticut in Cleveland Park is okay. But I agree with everyone else about the scant offerings of Mexican food in DC--most places are tex-mex or El Salvadorian; different textures.
Is that the one right next to the metro?
Just off the red line, yeah.
And this may belong over at Bob's place but one of my Pirates fan friends came into our class today talking about how awesome "that dude on Korea, Hee Soap Choi" is... :)
He downright lied to Russ Martin. Navarro has bombed in spring training, while Martin has been tearing it up. Navarro is going to be the Dodgers' starting catcher. Grady knew all along that Navarro was going to be the starting catcher. Now comes this quote:
"We'd kind of like to lay eyes on a guy we're kind of thinking about as being one of our starters," Manager Grady Little said Monday before the Dodgers' 7-5 Grapefruit League victory over the Boston Red Sox. "But I guess he's getting his work in."
Translation: You ignored more and went off to the stupid WBC, so Sele is going to take your spot in the starting rotation.
192- yea that was about Seo. Is Cruz going to lose his starting LF job to Repko too...
Regarding Martin, I don't remember the exact quotes either, but I was under the impression that Gr'ittle promised Martin he'd have a shot to make the team, more than he promised a shot to start? Or did he promise a shot to start?
- A fellow Hill denizen
Tortilla Coast is right (not that you need me to tell you).
188 Check the link at 174.
We can also send Marty to Five Guys -- got one on the hill now. Sort of like DC's In n Out.
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