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New-Hoo-Hoo-Math
2007-05-30 09:56
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

You might have thought that the only way the Dodgers would score a 10-0 victory was if major league baseball converted to Base 3. Nothing would boost the Dodgers' offensive totals like a little bit of new math - which still treats a shutout like old math would.

Instead, Base 3 refers to where Juan Pierre ended up on the first of his four extra-base hits Tuesday, kicking off a pristine Dodger victory. It was the feel-good night of the year, with once-and-future maligned Dodgers like Pierre, Luis Gonzalez, Nomar Garciaparra, Tony Abreu, Brad Penny, Yhency Brazoban and Brett Tomko providing peak performances in the very same game.

Say what you will about the roster of Tuesday's opponent, the Washington Nationals, but the team had won 12 of their past 17 heading into the game. The Dodgers deserve credit for taking it to their opponent – even though it took them 6 1/2 innings to put the game out of reach.

I was kicking myself after the game for not buying low on Pierre and suggesting he was due for a big night soon. As much as I would like to see someone else playing center field, Pierre has been underperforming even our lowest expectations for him. He has always had this game in him, and it would have been a good time for a hunch bet. In any case, I'm thrilled that he did it – but no longer holding my breath for the next one.

There was something sad about Tomko coming out to mop up (even in a good way) when 20 days earlier, he was throwing 5 1/3 innings of no-hit ball at Florida. But that's what the game is for mediocre players like Pierre and Tomko – as always, it's not that they can never do well, it's that they can't do well consistently.

On a different scale, some will be wondering whether the second-half spike will again drop on Brad Penny, he of the season-long homerless streak and scintillating ERA. Dodger Thoughts commenter Bhsportsguy points out (in comment 428) that Penny has improved his groundball ratio to better than 2:1, so even without massive strikeouts, there is hope for him to maintain a good chunk of his effectiveness. My own feeling is that Penny's continued health will play as much a factor as anything. Penny can't go through the entire season without allowing a homer, but I'm hopeful that he can avoid the utter collapse of 2006 Part Deux.

One final note: Yes, Russell Martin should have been removed from the game in the bottom of the seventh. While he didn't need the rest coming off an off day, this was an opportunity to give him something extra at no cost. More importantly, had Martin gotten hurt in the final innings, it would have been the darkest moment of Grady Little's tenure here. There was no need to take the risk.

More prudent was Takashi Saito, who asked for some time off to rest a tired shoulder after pitching or warming up five consecutive days.

But the morning after 10-0 is not a morning I want to rain on anyone's parade. After so many close games, it was so nice to have a cakewalk.

* * *

Jason Schmidt has his first rehabilitation start at 11 a.m. with the Inland Empire 66ers of the Class A California League.

Tuesday night, Rancho Cucamonga's Anthony Ortega took a no-hitter into the ninth inning against the 66ers, but Blake DeWitt's bloop single broke it up. The teams were scoreless until the 12th inning before RC colaed the IE, 7-4.

* * *

Times beat reporter Steve Henson said he will be joining former colleagues Tim Brown and Dave Morgan at Yahoo! Sports. Whether Kevin Baxter, Ben Bolch or an outsider will replace him on the beat does not seem to have been officially determined.

All my best to Henson on this move.

Comments (102)
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2007-05-30 10:03:32
1.   Gagne55
Jason Schmidt will start at San Bernadino today. Hope it goes well. We need the big guy.

Btw, First post!!! :D

2007-05-30 10:09:25
2.   D4P
As much as I would like to see someone else playing center field, Pierre has been underperforming even our lowest expectations for him. He has always had this game in him

For those who watched the game, were Pierre's hits "good" hits in the sense of being struck well, or was there a fair amount of luck involved (e.g. were they bloopers they just happened to fall in the right place)?

From what I can tell, this game wasn't really so different from his typical game these days. He saw a total of 13 pitches in 5 PAs (a ridiculously low 2.6 P/PA), and he hit 5 non-groundballs. If his 3 doubles and 1 triple were the product of a different approach to hitting, that would be one thing. But from what I can tell, he just did what he has done all year: not take pitches, and not hit groundballs.

I guess it was only a matter of time before his flyballs found grass instead of leather, but unless he actually did something different, I'm inclined to chalk it up to "luck" and expect him to return to 1-4 type games.

2007-05-30 10:14:03
3.   Jon Weisman
New post at Screen Jam.
2007-05-30 10:16:53
4.   Doctor
They were not bloopers. The first one was a fly ball that took advantage of the defense playing him to go the other way, but he was hitting the ball well yesterday, mostly line drives to right. Nothing on the ground though at all that I remember.
2007-05-30 10:18:43
5.   kinbote
2 - in my view, the triple was a warning-track fly ball that fell because of an overshift; the first double was really a single that was misplayed into a double; and the next two doubles were legit.

he also had a very questionable ball called on a 1-0 pitch during one of his at-bats.

2007-05-30 10:18:49
6.   Xeifrank
Kobe announced he wants to be traded.
vr, Xei
2007-05-30 10:20:49
7.   Sam DC
Q&A from Post beat writer chat. I've never heard of this before:

Washington: Barry,

Given that the Dodgers are in town I thought the timing of this question appropriate. Do you know why seats in the mezzanine have the Dodger interlocking "LA" on the sides? I take it that RFK bought some surplus Dodger Stadium seats a long time ago, but I've always found it bizarre.

Barry Svrluga: Wow, I haven't seen that. I'll check it out.

2007-05-30 10:21:16
8.   D4P
Kobe announced he wants to be traded

That's great news.

2007-05-30 10:24:00
9.   overkill94
2 The triple was purely a result of the outfield shifting him the other way, but maybe Pierre saw this and decided to take advantage - who knows. The rest of the balls were all hit very sharply, it was very shocking to see him square the ball up so well. Just like any other player, Pierre can get into a zone and see the ball well (just check out the last two months of last year), but hopefully yesterday was the start of his rise to respectability.
2007-05-30 10:28:30
10.   s choir
had Martin gotten hurt in the final innings, it would have been the darkest moment of Grady Little's tenure here. There was no need to take the risk.

This seems out of left field. Martin's risk of injury was no greater last night than it is at any other time. Even if he had been injured last night, I don't think it would have been Grady's fault for leaving him in.

The concern about overplaying Martin is not that he'll risk an injury, but that he'll wear down over the course of the season.

2007-05-30 10:29:58
11.   jasonungar07
let's just at least be happy when he juan for five manages to go 4 for 5.

If anyone cares, Kobe asked to be traded.

2007-05-30 10:30:24
12.   jasonungar07
oops, took a little to long.
2007-05-30 10:31:44
13.   Jon Weisman
10 - I understand the general concern about overplaying Martin. I'm also not saying that the risk of Martin getting hurt was any greater. But the risk-reward ratio of leaving Martin in was as low as it could be.

I'm telling you, if Martin had gotten hurt in the eighth inning last night, people would have gone ballistic.

2007-05-30 10:31:57
14.   capdodger
6 Anyone want to put odds on when (or where) he'll go?

For entertainment purposes only, of course.

2007-05-30 10:32:37
15.   El Lay Dave
2,5,9: As 9 stated, the doubles were all hard-hit, essentially line drives - one near the LF line. The fly-ball triple landed close to the RF fair-pole. The misplay on the single/double was the charging somewhat to his left, sliding CF allowing the hit to bounce off his glove, instead of catching it cleanly. Some batters can run that into 2B, others not.
2007-05-30 10:33:23
16.   D4P
Anyone want to put odds on when (or where) he'll go?

Setting aside players and focusing only on cities, Chicago has been bantied around, and New York seems like an option as well. It's hard to see him going to a small market.

2007-05-30 10:34:35
17.   jasonungar07
Miami. That would be so funny.
2007-05-30 10:35:07
18.   jujibee
15. It also looked like he might be able to have another triple on one of his doubles, but he had someone running really slow in front of him that ended up on third forcing Juan to stop at second.
2007-05-30 10:35:30
19.   Sam DC
Knowing nothing about pro basketball these days, I smugly pronounce, Kobe Bryant is not leaving LA.
2007-05-30 10:36:19
20.   El Lay Dave
8 For whom? What kind of bloated-contract mediocrities would be shoveled upon the Lakers in a trade scenario? Like him or not, Byrant is a star that moves merchandise and creates buzz. The L.A. Lakers at their most successful (Ws and $$$) have always had stars: West, Baylor, Chamberlain, Abdul-Jabber, Johnson, Shaq, Kobe.
2007-05-30 10:37:01
21.   D4P
Kobe Bryant is not leaving LA

That would seem to be the most likely scenario, assuming you mean that he will stay with the Lakers.

2007-05-30 10:41:07
22.   capdodger
18 It was Penny in front of him.

As others have stated, the triple was a bit of a (310 ft.) floater that benefited from a shifted outfield, and all the other hits were well struck. His only badly hit ball was the only time he was retired. JP tomahawked at what I believe was high cheese and popped it up. He was probably feeling hot so he took a hack.

2007-05-30 10:42:10
23.   D4P
He was probably feeling hot so he took a hack

Hmmm...then what explains all of his previous hacks this season...?

2007-05-30 10:44:10
24.   Greg Brock
Short of Kevin Garnett and Randy Foy, I don't see how any deal gets done where the Lakers get anything remotely close to equal value.
2007-05-30 10:45:07
25.   kinbote
regarding martin, my problem with his handling last night was this: as soon as we built the 9-0 lead [against a very weak team], i mentally started subbing players--clark for lugo, martinez for kent, etc. naturally, lieberthal for martin was a logical move.

why little didn't do it i have no idea. i rarely criticize grady, but he needs to do a better job of protecting our most valuable player.

2007-05-30 10:45:26
26.   capdodger
23 I don't know. Maybe he's been hanging around Olmedo too much and has contracted chronic sexiness.
2007-05-30 10:49:43
27.   ToyCannon
I wonder what the critics of the Magglio Ordonez contract are saying now?
2007-05-30 10:54:00
28.   ToyCannon
He's not going anywhere. With the NBA salary match up rules it is extremely hard to trade large contracts without significanlty weakening the team he'd be going to and since he only wants to play for a contender his options are about zero. He can play hard and walk in two years. He signed on for this mess now he'll have to deal with it. By 31 his legs should be shot but someone will be crazy enough to give him another long term deal but they will regret is as much as Miami already regrets the Shaq deal.
2007-05-30 10:55:45
29.   robohobo
14 Amare, Marion, and Barbosa for Kobe, Bynum, and that Russian guy?*

I was just reading a Suns blog about proposed trade scenarios and they were talking about trading Marion and Amare.

*I haven't watched an NBA game for a couple of years. I just read the interwebs about these guys.

2007-05-30 10:58:06
30.   capdodger
He signed on for this mess now he'll have to deal with it.

See... that's just the thing. It seems like they told him they had a plan. Unfortunately, that plan is in the same vault as Nixon's '68 plan for Vietnam.

2007-05-30 11:04:07
31.   kngoworld
28 Who says Miami regrets the Shaq deal?

They did win a title last yaer. Sure he is old and slow, but he is still draws the double team and makes his teammates better.

2007-05-30 11:05:26
32.   kngoworld
Wow, I need to double check my grammer. Sorry!
2007-05-30 11:05:33
33.   D4P
that plan is in the same vault as Nixon's '68 plan for Vietnam

That is just begging for a rule-5-violating follow-up.

2007-05-30 11:10:50
34.   capdodger
33 I could have gone back farther and used William McKinley's promise to end another land war in asia, but I don't want to suggest that someone might take a shot at Dr. Buss.
2007-05-30 11:11:12
35.   still bevens
Is there any way to track the 66ers game that doesn't involve the live box score?
2007-05-30 11:12:07
36.   robohobo
Schmidt with walk and a K so far.
35 Free MILB gameday audio.
2007-05-30 11:15:39
37.   StolenMonkey86
Went to the game last night, and just got back a little bit ago.

The Dodgers' were very effective in using the strategy of "hit the ball in Guzman's range but not actually right to Guzman." Watching him, I think Olmedo could get to more balls at short. I was wondering if they'd pull him like Frank Robinson did with LeCroy after like 7 guys ran on him.

That was the first time I had attended a game where the Dodgers played and they won, also Odalis Perez did not pitch and JD Drew did not go 0-5 for either team, bringing the Dodgers record in games I've attended to 1-2. In all three games, one team scored 10 runs. I don't know if this is a good sign though: In the first game Odalis Perez started, in the second game, Tomko started and Odalis pitched out of the pen, and in the third game, Penny started and Tomko pitched out of the pen.

2007-05-30 11:17:11
38.   robohobo
Schmidt just struck out the side including Garret Anderson. No talk about his velocity yet though.
2007-05-30 11:17:39
39.   blue22
Houston (McGrady) and Phoenix (Amare and/or Marion) seem to be the likeliest Western Conference destinations.

Philly or Chicago in the East?

2007-05-30 11:18:43
40.   Robert Fiore
Quick straw poll: How many of you still read the L.A. Times or other print newspaper writeup on the Dodger game every day? I haven't been doing it regularly since I stopped taking the bus to work, and will generally only make a point of reading it when something extraordinary happens (like say when they win 10-0). I have to say for my part the online world has completely changed the way I get my sports news.
2007-05-30 11:24:54
41.   silverwidow
Schmidt thru 2:

1 BB, 3 Ks

2007-05-30 11:25:06
42.   Andrew Shimmin
Three fly ball outs in the second, for Schmidt.
2007-05-30 11:28:03
43.   jasonungar07
I agree with you Robert. It used to be my daily read for sure (or daily news or oc register, any sports page really) and now it's very rare. The only time I read those papers now is Saturday/Sunday at Brekfast/Starbucks or something or if I get linked there on line by someone in the comments here.

This is my starting point daily for dodger stuff.

2007-05-30 11:28:57
44.   dkminnick
40- Print news is dead. They just don't know it yet. I'd be extremely surprised to find that many (any?) here still hold newsprint in their hands.
2007-05-30 11:29:09
45.   Doctor
there has to be a 'gun at that game.... odd that they havn't mentioned his velocity.
2007-05-30 11:30:54
46.   Andrew Shimmin
I can hear the children screeching in the background of the broadcast. I hope one of the dogs hasn't gone on a killing spree.
2007-05-30 11:32:39
47.   Daniel Zappala
I glance through the LA Times wrapup every day, but mostly I read their separate notes column to see if anything interesting is happening with the team. I do this all through the web site though, and not with newsprint.
2007-05-30 11:34:32
48.   robohobo
66ers announcer "6 up, 6 down go the 66ers".
Screaming kids...
Creepy.
2007-05-30 11:35:23
49.   dkminnick
46 - LOL!
2007-05-30 11:36:03
50.   Penarol1916
44. I really hate it when someone says an industry is dead when most entities in it are still making 20% profit margins and will for the next 10 years as well. Print has no future, no growth, is on its way out, that's fine, but it seems a little silly to say that print is dead.
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2007-05-30 11:36:31
51.   Daniel Zappala
If you want a good laugh, read Cub Town today.
2007-05-30 11:36:56
52.   capdodger
40 - I read the dead tree version of the Saturday and Sunday Post, but that's only because the former owner of my house didn't cancel her subscription when she was shipped out to Korea last month. Once that runs it's course I may or may not renew it.

This is my first stop for Dodger news. If there's news and it's not in Jon's post, it's either in the comments or in one of the sidebar blogs.

2007-05-30 11:37:49
53.   still bevens
I am not a fan of this broadcaster for the Cucamonga Quakes.
2007-05-30 11:38:11
54.   Andrew Shimmin
About the only time I read anything from the sports page is if somebody here links it. And usually the excerpt is enough that I don't bother with that, even. I only read it online, too; I don't understand people who still pay money for newspapers (except the Wall Street Journal, or maybe the NY Times). Not only are they free, but it's just better, reading them on a screen.
2007-05-30 11:40:42
55.   still bevens
Its nice to hear Schmidt giving the 66ers their propers when they make plays for him.
2007-05-30 11:42:29
56.   robohobo
53 I agree. "Umpire, do the dance" is what he says for a called strike three. At least there is no talk of chefs at a certain Chinese restaurant in between pitches.
2007-05-30 11:47:18
57.   Eric L
I read the paper every day but then again, I get it for free at work.
2007-05-30 11:47:51
58.   Jon Weisman
I really like a print newspaper, though I'll adapt when the time comes. I obviously read a lot online, but I like having the print version.

It's funny: I write this blog with the assumption that it is no one's first stop for Dodger news. Hence, you'll almost never see a game recap or notes that the beat reporters have, unless I have some commentary to add to them.

2007-05-30 11:48:37
59.   overkill94
I used to read my local newspaper growing up, but that was because I needed something to read during breakfast and it had a lot of local sports news as well.

A few things have changed since then:
1. I rarely eat breakfast anymore
2. If I do, it's in front of my computer catching up on the latest baseball news
3. I get baseball news instantly from the internet, so there's nothing new for me by the next day
4. No local sports to care about

Plus, the LA Times beat writers are pretty mediocre at best, so there's not much incentive anyway.

2007-05-30 11:50:36
60.   Doctor
You can find a box score anywhere, I always check here when i want to know if theres anything news worthy happening. Like Schmidt's game today e.g.
2007-05-30 11:52:27
61.   dkminnick
40, 44, 50 - Okay. In order to not be silly, I will amend my comment to read: "Print news is rapidly dying. Rapidly."

BTW, Penarol1916, do you read newsprint?

2007-05-30 11:56:51
62.   robohobo
2 more Ks for Schmidt, including Anderson again (on 3 pitches both times).
2007-05-30 11:56:56
63.   Kevin Lewis
I used to have the LA Times weekend delivery, but they kept messing it up, adding on Fridays and then all of a sudden I was charged more. I would love to get Pasadena News on a Weekend basis, but the cost is too high, so I go to LA times online for some news but mostly the crossword and sudoku.
2007-05-30 11:57:01
64.   ToyCannon
I still read the sports page while eating breakfeast out of habit but since coverage of our major sports team is so lame compared to what I get on the internet I now just read about local HS sports which is why I get the Daily news instead of the LA Times.
2007-05-30 11:59:55
65.   Jon Weisman
Any pitch count for Schmidt?
2007-05-30 12:02:57
66.   overkill94
Anybody notice we now lead the league in strikeouts (pitching, not hitting)? Seems odd considering our only strikeout-heavy starter is Wolf; I guess all those reliever strikeouts help out a lot.
2007-05-30 12:03:14
67.   nick
I've stopped reading newsprint, but I live in a podunk town; if I lived in any city with public transport I'd read the paper....

by the way, did you guys notice this?

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=381

appeared yesterday--no doubt it provoked Pierre's performance.....

ps--the Yanks stink right now but not enough to take Tomko &/or Hendrickson off yr hands...

2007-05-30 12:03:18
68.   robohobo
56 Make that "Blue, do the dance."
Denker just hit a double.
2007-05-30 12:04:26
69.   jasonungar07
58 Sometimes if I missed the game I will come here but basically use your links immediately to catch the box score or beat notes and then jump back in the conversation. But more and more, I would rather read thru the day before game comments (time permiting of course) to get my recap of the game thru the commentator's eyes more so than the papers.
2007-05-30 12:04:55
70.   overkill94
Wow, to expand on my own line of thought, our bullpen sports an amazing 2.92 K:BB ratio! Next-closest in the majors is Milwaukee at 2.4.
2007-05-30 12:06:13
71.   robohobo
65 No pitch count yet. He is moving through batters rather quickly. The play-by-play guy just said Schmidt is going to pitch another inning. He has pitched 4 already.
2007-05-30 12:09:32
72.   capdodger
58 Game recaps don't do that much for me. I either watch the games live or watch archived games/highlights based on a combination of gamday reading and comment skimming.

The twin pillars of MLB.TV and DT changed my baseball consumption habits.

2007-05-30 12:10:20
73.   underdog
Wow, Schmidt's doing well - certainly better than Clemens did in his first rehab start. Granted, these are single A players, but still.
2007-05-30 12:11:56
74.   StolenMonkey86
I stopped reading print newspapers when I got to college. About the only thing extra I get with print newspapers is that the news happened several hours ago instead of a few minutes ago, and I have to pay money for the newsprint. The only print news I read is the Washington Post express, and even then, I mostly just grab that for the Sudoku puzzle.
2007-05-30 12:12:25
75.   trainwreck
Thankfully I am going to see Louis CK tonight, because I am in a sad mood right now.

Why Kobe? Why?

2007-05-30 12:12:39
76.   Penarol1916
61. I read the occassional Sunday Chicago Tribune when my wife picks it up to read the sales items and look for coupons.
2007-05-30 12:14:23
77.   StolenMonkey86
70 - The Yankees' bullpen K/BB is 1.10. Wonder who we could get for Rudy Seanez from them.
2007-05-30 12:14:25
78.   Andrew Shimmin
"So Merrick, on scathed in the one inning. . ."
2007-05-30 12:14:56
79.   Andrew Shimmin
"Only," that should be. Irritating.
2007-05-30 12:18:59
80.   Jon Weisman
I just feel like I miss things if I don't see the print paper.
2007-05-30 12:19:01
81.   alexx
I found it funny that Pierre's highlights from yesterday's game on Dodgers.com included several routine fly balls..However, he had a great game and I hope he keeps it up.
2007-05-30 12:19:10
82.   robohobo
73 The play-by-play guy said several of the fly ball outs were rather well hit. That is somewhat concerning. The diving catch in center and the caught stealing helped keep Schmidt int he game. 5 Ks in 5 innings is encouraging.

He is still in there for the 6th!

2007-05-30 12:20:10
83.   robohobo
82 Make that 6 Ks.
2007-05-30 12:21:30
84.   Andrew Shimmin
Announcer reports that Flanders and Conte are at the game.
2007-05-30 12:22:54
85.   Daniel Zappala
Are there LA blogs that cover everything you want to know about what's happening in the area? From living in a smaller area, I know that I couldn't get by without reading the SL Tribune online. No blog replaces the content.
2007-05-30 12:23:16
86.   underdog
I have to say, whatever any of us think of Kobe and his latest comments, the Lakers' management and their PR people are really asleep at the switch by not commenting on anything for the past 5 days. Their silence is deafening. We're only getting Kobe's side of the story, and then he got mad that someone in the Lakers' organization misspoke - well if they did, someone else needs to come forward and either apologize/communicate to Bryant, and/or address the media about it. Whether Kobe's right or wrong this whole thing just makes them look more incompetent than before. Who are their spokespeople? They need to look pro-active, talk to him or talk to "us."
2007-05-30 12:24:40
87.   unassisted
Hoo-Hoo-Math? Is that a Howard Stern/Opie and Anthony?
2007-05-30 12:25:00
88.   unassisted
reference
2007-05-30 12:26:01
89.   jasonungar07
well when Dr. Buss gets out of jail....

(pretty much says it all)

2007-05-30 12:26:58
90.   Jon Weisman
87 - Actually, I've been wondering where all the people my age are. That's a reference to Tom Lehrer. If you grew up in the 70s, the rise of New Math was a big deal - like how the metric system was going to take over the U.S.
2007-05-30 12:28:13
91.   Jon Weisman
20 batters faced, two groundouts for Schmidt.

Six strikeouts, eight flyouts, two hits, a walk and a caught stealing.

2007-05-30 12:29:33
92.   JoeyP
If Kupchak gives in to Kobe's trade request, then he'll officially go down as the worst GM to ever GM a professional sports team.

Never, ever trade superstars bc its impossible to get equal value.

Kobe's too much of a competitor to tank games.

If the Lakers trade Kobe, I'm done with the Lakers until they sell the team. The Buss family has killed that organization over the last several years, starting with the Shaq trade.

2007-05-30 12:29:35
93.   Andrew Shimmin
87- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXx2VVSWDMo
2007-05-30 12:29:53
94.   silverwidow
91-Actually, seven strikeouts for Schmidt.
2007-05-30 12:31:01
95.   bhsportsguy
Just went back and looked at Schmidt's stats. Early in his career, he was a groundball pitcher but after going to the Giants and AT&T (Pac Bell) Park and its large outfield, he became a slight flyball pitcher. So the fact that he gave up more flyballs today is not too concerning. Two hits and one walk with 7 strikeouts and going 6 innings is a really good sign.

Depending on how many pitches he threw and since he only faced 20 batters, it was probably in the 75-85 range, if his velocity was improved from his previous efforts this year, we could very well see him pitch against the Pirates on Monday or San Diego on Tuesday.

2007-05-30 12:31:21
96.   unassisted
ah, gotcha jon, i'm just 24 y/o
2007-05-30 12:31:39
97.   trainwreck
92
More blame is on Jim Buss and Jerry Buss for putting Jim in charge. Jim wants to run everything and he is not very good at his job at all.
2007-05-30 12:36:14
98.   bhsportsguy
92 The fact that Shaq has backed Kobe up (personally I think this was due more to his continued fractured relationship with Jerry Buss than a reconciliation with Kobe), probably puts the ball, so to speak, with the Lakers because in effect, the story that Kobe is telling is not that different to what Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak have said for the past 3 years that Kobe was never involved in the decision to trade Shaq.

I am not sure who that source was with the Lakers who supposedly told the Times that Kobe was involved but that was different to the tale they had been telling us since the trade was made.

That said, someone needs to step in soon.

2007-05-30 12:37:55
99.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2007-05-30 12:43:04
100.   DodgerBakers
[81.]

It seems that Dodgers.com is always playing up Pierre as if to make up for all the negative press he recieves elsewhere.

For example, here are the first 2 paragraphs of the Dodgers.com write-up:
*To Moneyball disciples who worship on-base percentage, the Dodgers' signing of Juan Pierre and his recent promotion to leadoff hitter are compound head-scratchers.

Pierre made some sense out of it Tuesday night with a career-high four extra-base hits to support Brad Penny's seventh win, while the Dodgers toyed with the Nationals, 10-0.*

Now I don't mind them playing up our players a little bit, making them seem better than they are, but the whole thing, especially with Pierre, smacks very much of a PR department in panic mode.

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2007-05-30 12:52:24
101.   FirstMohican
100 - I think the Dodgers realize that what they think of as "Moneyball disciples" will never really fall in love with Pierre, so might as well try to appeal to the non-disciples, and what better way than to liken Pierre fanhood to anti-Moneyball?
2007-05-30 13:31:15
102.   Linkmeister
We subscribe to both daily papers out here. I rarely read local news online, so those are my principal sources along with local tv news.

Also, the sports pages are reading material during morning ablutions (insert scatological joke here).

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