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And If I Had a Pony, I'd Ride It On My Boat
2007-11-14 13:21
by Jon Weisman

The Kamenetsky Brothers and David Neiman invited me to guest on their Purple, Gold, and Blue online show today, to talk mainly about the Dodgers, Alex Rodriguez and Miguel Cabrera. And ponies.

My portion begins about 40 minutes in.

* * *

From Diamond Leung of the Press-Enterprise: "The Dodgers have finalized a three-game series with the Red Sox from March 28-30 to conclude spring training, and one of the games is expected to be played at the Coliseum."

Update: Ken Gurnick of MLB.com says it's confirmed that the Dodgers will play at the Coliseum on Saturday, March 29.

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2007-11-14 13:29:18
1.   D4P
In a statement released by Rodriguez he said he and his wife Cynthia have spoken directly with Hank and Hal Steinbrenner.

It is absolutely clear, however, that the negotiations -- which never really got started last month -- are now on-going, and agent Scott Boras is not part of the dialogue.

"Alex reached out to the Yankees, and he made it clear he wants to be a Yankee," said one source. "He understands what has to be done."

Rodriguez released the following statement on his Web site.

"After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization.

Meanwhile, friends of Rodriguez say he has been embarrassed by what has taken place. Last week, one high-ranking official with an AL team made this prediction: "I think A-Rod will go back to the Yankees himself and make a deal without Scott involved," said the executive. "This way, he can get back into the good graces of the fans, and still get the biggest contract he can get."

2007-11-14 13:30:25
2.   LogikReader
Well as long as he's happy (and rich).
2007-11-14 13:34:44
3.   Xeifrank
LAT'd... The latest McCovey Chronicles blog entry is probably of interest to most of you. They are debating the possible MCAB trade rumors to the Dodgers and what effect it would have on the division long term. It's interesting to see how frightened they are of our young players and how they want us to give them all up in a trade for MCAB. And a few good jabs at making Pierre a LFer. vr, Xei
2007-11-14 13:36:46
4.   fanerman
Who is/are MCAB?
2007-11-14 13:37:13
5.   kylepetterson
I saw Lyle Lovett at Floores Country Store outside of San Antonio a couple years ago - Awesome venue and quite possibly one of the best shows I've ever seen. He and his Large Band played for over 3 hours. It was fantastic.
2007-11-14 13:38:02
6.   ToyCannon
Miggy Cabrera
2007-11-14 13:40:10
7.   ToyCannon
1
That should make you happy. A player dissing the great agent Scott Boras. Not just any player but the best player in the land according to his agent.
Not that Boras would be upset with the 25 Million windfall for screwing up the process.

Bronx Banter must be going crazy.

2007-11-14 13:41:47
8.   dzzrtRatt
In answer to ToyCannon on Luis Sojo, I LAT'd myself with this answer:

149. dzzrtRatt
139 I'm not sure if I'm getting your point. Sojo was another bench player. His busiest season for Torre, he only played 77 games, and though I don't follow the Yankees close enough to know, I assume some of those games he was a pinch-something or late-inning defensive replacement.

What did Torre do when his GM handed him a starting player who didn't produce? If he kept playing him regardless, then he's just like Little. But my sense is Torre doesn't do that.

As a manager, I could see Torre taking the position that you can't motivate your players to improve if one guy gets to start every game no matter how little he contributes.

I mean... If Luis Gonzalez had complained about why he had to sit while Pierre plays, he'd have had a legitimate point.

Anyway, it's just a "hopeful hypothesis." Maybe Torre is from the old school that sees Pierre as a great on-base guy, a sparkplug, a catalyst, a great distracter of pitchers, a guy who "creates" runs, plus a good American and a soul bound for glory. Maybe he'll think 162 games isn't even enough of a reward for a player of Pierre's superlative merits. If so, I'll be grumpy. But, to me, the Dodgers have needed a manager who doesn't suffer fools gladly, and I see Torre-Mattingly-Bowa as a tough-minded trio.

2007-11-14 13:42:25
9.   Xeifrank
4. It's talk in NASDAQ ticker symbols day.
vr, Xei
2007-11-14 13:42:55
10.   fanerman
6 Oh. I thought it was someone from the Giants or something. Is MCAB his nickname? Spelled in all caps?
2007-11-14 13:44:00
11.   Humma Kavula
1 Ya know, as long as the horse is dead and I have this club that I'm not doing anything with, does it really do any harm to beat it?

With that in mind, here's a thought: that A-Rod reaching out to the Henrys Steinbrenner might be orchestrated by Boras. Isn't that a way of making it seem like the Yankees are involved and a contender for A-Rod's services? At the end of the day, A-Rod can still go wherever the most money is and say, "I wanted to stay a Yankee, and Boras wasn't involved, but the Yankees still couldn't get it done."

Who's playing who here?

Take that, horse!! [Whack! Whack!]

2007-11-14 13:45:58
12.   Xeifrank
Wonder when the tickets for the Dodgers/Red Sox games at the Coliseum will go on sale? Would they allow the stadium to fill to maximum occupancy? When/if these tickets go on sale, I'm there!

vr, Xei

2007-11-14 13:47:45
13.   ToyCannon
Dodger Thoughts day at the Coliseum would be a great way to start the season. Stan from Tacoma would have to fly down for that event.
2007-11-14 13:48:36
14.   RIYank
7 Bronx Banter is still a bit skeptical.
At first, skeptical that any 'scoop' by the Daily News could be true; now it's more a matter of wondering whether the point is really to jump-start the bidding.
2007-11-14 13:52:23
15.   D4P
That should make you happy. A player dissing the great agent Scott Boras. Not just any player but the best player in the land according to his agent.

I'm not sure if it makes me happy or not. If Boras is truly getting dissed and is losing money and/or credibility, then I like it.

2007-11-14 13:54:11
16.   blue22
14 - That's what I think too. ARod goes in to meet with the Yankees, all by himself, and says "make me your best offer". He then texts that to Boras, who immediately communicates that (+20%, natch) to Moreno, Ned, Ken Williams, Theo, etc. as the price to pay for ARod.

I think some of these other teams were anticipating a potential "discount" on ARod due to the Yanks non-involvement. Boras just needs a number from the Yanks to get things moving.

2007-11-14 13:57:07
17.   blue22
Or maybe he just wants to be a Yankee, at least so says his website:

http://arod.mlb.com/players/rodriguez_alex/article.jsp?story=111407

2007-11-14 14:03:44
18.   fanerman
17 To quote Admiral Ackbar, "It's a trap!"
2007-11-14 14:05:09
19.   RIYank
Yeah, 16 17 it could be either one.

Thing is, if it's a ploy, he's going to come out looking seroiusly sleazy, isn't he? Does he care? Is Cynthia on board with a big hoax? I don't pretend I can understand how his mind works, but, you know, "it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for $35M, Alex, for $35M?"

2007-11-14 14:07:16
20.   dzzrtRatt
If Arod does everything that's implied by this action, including the salary cut and the jettisoning of Boras, and assuming he continues to play well and stays with NY til he retires? We're talking DiMaggio - Mantle status in the Yankee pantheon.

Jeter will be looking hard for something he can do to measure up. I mean, what a performance. Getting the biggest contract in baseball and making it look like he's made a sacrifice!? Cue Sinatra!

2007-11-14 14:13:32
21.   was it tims mitt i saw
sounds like every awkward first date i've had
2007-11-14 14:16:56
22.   D4P
To quote Admiral Ackbar, "It's a trap!"

Leia also said that too.

2007-11-14 14:18:18
23.   D4P
Leia also said that too

As well. In addition.

2007-11-14 14:18:31
24.   fanerman
22 But Leia said other things, too. That was Admiral Ackbar's one shining moment.
2007-11-14 14:25:33
25.   jasonungar07
and to quote Lando's weird copilot

"huhuhuhuhu"

2007-11-14 14:29:58
26.   DodgerBakers
20 Hold on there, don't you know that ARod isn't a True Yankee™? Good grief, I found a whole Yankee fan website dedicated to getting rid of ARod. They even had T-shirts!
2007-11-14 14:35:27
27.   BlueCrew Bruin
25 Who knew he was a fan of our future shortstop. Too bad he didn't know how to pronounce his name.
2007-11-14 14:44:59
28.   Bob Timmermann
It's very nice of the Dodgers to provide the Red Sox with a playing field that has a short fence in left field so they don't get homesick.
2007-11-14 14:47:46
29.   OldD099erFan
The Ds should just make a take-it-or-leave-it offer to Arod so they don't have to sell the farm for MCab. They should offer:

2008 - 28M
2009 - 28M
2010 - 29M
2011 - 29M
2012 - 30M
2013 - 30M
2014 - 31M
2015 - 27M plus 4M in incentives based on HRs, RBIs, etc
2016 - 27M plus...
2017 - 27M plus...

But the last three years would also be a Dodger option to buy him out for non performance or not being able to play enough games.

Arod is guarenteed 205K for 7 years ($29K+/yr), plus another 27M-30M for an additional 3 years if he continues to perform.

If the Ds negotiate for MCab, they will have to give up 3-4 top rookies with no assurance he will stay. I would much rather pay a little more for Arod and keep the kids.

2007-11-14 14:52:01
30.   Xeifrank
28. Will that game feature the "one up rule"? Where if a team hits a home run over the short fence they are not allowed to hit another one over the short fence (otherwise it's an out) before the other team hits one?
240 feet to LF is amazing. How high will the screen be? Perhaps they can put seats up on top of the screen.
vr, Xei
2007-11-14 14:52:28
31.   Bob Timmermann
9
For the record, there is no publicly traded stock in the US that uses MCAB as its ticker symbol.

I was hoping there was.

Nor is there an AROD or ODOG stock. Also there is no stock that is HU.

Lowe's Company uses the ticker symbol of LOW.

There is a penny stock called WEBB. It's only listed on the Pink Sheets.

2007-11-14 14:54:52
32.   Xeifrank
29. I don't think the Dodgers make that trade for MCAB without locking him up to a long-term deal as part of the trade. It's a tough call as to which is better, signing AROD or trading for MCAB. I think it all depends on which players the Dodgers have to give up in a trade for MCAB.
vr, Xei
2007-11-14 14:57:58
33.   blue22
29 - ARod will be in his mid-to-late 30s for the duration of the proposed 7-year contract.

Cabrera will turn 25 at the start of next season. Any extension will cover Cabrera's age 27-32(ish) seasons.

2007-11-14 14:59:31
34.   Xeifrank
31. BTIM, you have to make up your own symbols. vr, Xei
2007-11-14 15:00:05
35.   jasonungar07
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21793690
2007-11-14 15:06:35
36.   MJW101
Nomar in 2007:

Mon Gm Avg/OBP/SLP/OPS
Apr 26 307/351/416/767
May 26 268/317/289/606
Jun 23 247/261/306/567
Jul 24 308/382/423/805
Aug 11 250/289/417/706
Sep 11 324/361/471/832

A decent 11 game streak in September, with the club in 4th place, does not offset the very poor Apr/May/June/Aug. Nomar is indeed done. Give him his $11M and stick a fork in him.

2007-11-14 15:07:43
37.   Bob Timmermann
BTIM is trading for $0.60 a share.
2007-11-14 15:08:47
38.   bhsportsguy
Andrew and Brian and David and Jon's Excellent Adventure

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2007-11-14 15:10:21
39.   dzzrtRatt
32 Arod going back to the Yankees means Miggy's price goes up and probably out of our desired range. The whole shot of getting either was to take advantage of a glut of HOF-level third-sackers. Arod returning to the Yankees, which I don't think is in any serious doubt now, leaves Cabrera standing alone.

I'll enjoy watching Cabrera on the Angels. Maybe they'll take Kent off our hands to plug the hole they'll create for themselves at second base.

(Oh relax, Jamie. I like Kent! I'm sure he'll send your ear back one of these days.)

2007-11-14 15:11:31
40.   bhsportsguy
38 You can just tell that even speaking about the possibility of making the deal for Cabrera is giving Jon a headache.
2007-11-14 15:13:36
41.   Greg Brock
1. Ask guest questions
2. Interrupt answers
3. Profit???
2007-11-14 15:13:49
42.   paranoidandroid
All I want for Christmas is A-Rod. I guess being a Jew means I won't get a Christmas gift.

PLEASE have the Yanks deal fall apart. Pretty please?

I'd pay him 300 mil for 10 years. Instantly.

2007-11-14 15:16:40
43.   fanerman
37 BUY! BUY! BUY!
2007-11-14 15:19:08
44.   Bob Timmermann
43
BTIM has had better days.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=BTIM.OB&t=my

2007-11-14 15:19:44
45.   The Mootz
43 Jim Cramer and Fanerman, leading the way in telling you how to spend your money.
2007-11-14 15:19:55
46.   Greg Brock
42 We could sign several less talented players over a series of days, and sign A-Rod on the eighth night.

Or we could set a place for Elijah...Dukes, that is.

2007-11-14 15:20:06
47.   Jon Weisman
Jason Collins has played 141 minutes for the Nets this season, scoring two points.

He has outscored Minnesota's Mark Madsen, who is recovering from shoulder surgery following a summer jet-ski accident. Amazingly, he's still on the roster.

I remember the one time I went waterskiing, they assured me I couldn't get hurt, but I sprained my shoulder.

2007-11-14 15:21:56
48.   dzzrtRatt
42 but how do you compete with "I'd take a discount to play for you, Yankees?"

It's possible of course that Boras will parachute in like he did when Eric Gagne started talking about a "hometown discount" and slap Arod around a little bit.

Who was the guy who stepped in and claimed he represented Hochevar for 24 hours? Maybe Boras can bring that buy back into the picture and blame him.

2007-11-14 15:22:44
49.   Xeifrank
39. isn't AROD heading back to the Yankees still speculation? vr, Xei
2007-11-14 15:25:17
50.   Lexinthedena
It has been talked about before...but does anyone see Tejada as the new 3rd sacker next year?
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2007-11-14 15:29:03
51.   D4P
isn't AROD heading back to the Yankees still speculation?

Yes, as is "ARod dumping Boras".

2007-11-14 15:29:35
52.   Greg Brock
50 My Magic 8 Ball says "Ask again after the Mitchell Report."
2007-11-14 15:30:36
53.   D4P
52
When does your Ball indicate that the MR will drop?
2007-11-14 15:30:51
54.   blue22
50 - Baltimore still wants actual value for him (someone we won't want to give up), his performance has taken quite a downturn since testing for PEDs began (a coincidence, I'm sure), and his defense is suspect at best.
2007-11-14 15:32:15
55.   LogikReader
48

This little tidbit from the following ESPN article:

http://tinyurl.com/359s66

Might lend credence to the "negotiation."

Before the 2002 season, the Atlanta Braves bypassed Boras and negotiated a six-year, $75 million contract with Andruw Jones and his father.

2007-11-14 15:32:44
56.   Greg Brock
53 {Shakes Magic 8-Ball}

Concentrate and ask again. Or concetrate and ask again.

2007-11-14 15:33:04
57.   Daniel Zappala
I think it helps to put rumors in the proper perspective if you picture reporters as teenage girls:

Girl 1: That A-Rod is hot! Somebody is going to give him $300 million, for sure!

Girl 2: No way! Cabrera is even hotter! And younger! I'd give up Billingsley, Kemp, and LaRoche to have him on my team!

Girl 1: A-Rod is in much better shape! Look how buff he is! Cabrera is fat. Ewww!

Girl 2: But I want Cabrera now! Daddy! Tell them to throw in Kershaw.

Girl 3: Guys! You won't believe this! A-Rod is down the street talking to George! Without his agent!!!

Girl 1 and Girl 2: OMG! Let's go!

2007-11-14 15:34:43
58.   bhsportsguy
A new quote for the sidebar:

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2007-11-14 15:35:46
59.   Jacob L
42 46

My general experience was that I got the big gift on the first night. Later in the week, it falls off to the middle relievers and utility infielders of Hannukah gifts.

What night does Hannukah start this year anyway?

2007-11-14 15:37:03
60.   bhsportsguy
59 December 4th
2007-11-14 15:37:04
61.   fanerman
44 45 If there were a stock that matched my name, I'd probably buy a share for kicks.
2007-11-14 15:40:34
62.   Jon Weisman
61 - Mr. T probably did.
2007-11-14 15:40:52
63.   Disabled List
55 And when you combine that with the Yankees and Colletti refusing to negotiate with Boras, it makes you wonder if the owners haven't stumbled on to a new and above-board form of collusion.

What if all 30 owners said "We won't negotiate with Scott Boras, just his players"? Interesting.

2007-11-14 15:42:54
64.   D4P
63
Maybe every GM at the recent meeting stood up during the sharing time and said that their goals for the off-season included not negotiating with Boras.
2007-11-14 15:43:43
65.   Disabled List
The closest ticker symbol to my name is DL.L, on the LSE. It's up 11 points today!
2007-11-14 15:44:12
66.   Daniel Zappala
Speaking of Chanukah:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hmr5YOewww

Yes, it's safe for work!

2007-11-14 15:45:35
67.   Bob Timmermann
60
Wait a minute. bhsportsguy knows when Hanukah is and the rabbi's son doesn't?

I'm really confused.

For those fasting at home, Ash Wednesday is February 6 and Easter Sunday is a mighty early March 23.

Easter has not occurred as early as March 23 since 1913. And it will not be that early again until long after all of us are dead.

Or beyond the chart I'm looking at.

2007-11-14 15:46:35
68.   bhsportsguy
63 That might still fall under the spirit of collusion and MLB would have to be very leary of that type of communication taking place.

Basically, competitors, especially in a closed market, just cannot talk about any type of group actions. Period.

2007-11-14 15:46:36
69.   jasonungar07
But would they negoitate with Bob Loblaw?
2007-11-14 15:48:29
70.   bhsportsguy
67 I have one of those calendars that lists those types of dates nearby.
2007-11-14 15:48:29
71.   underdog
I hear UDOG is selling for $1.25 a share; fortunately, no one's associated it with the motion picture.

I wish the Dodgers would just keep their ALAR stock, since analysts say that one is sure to skyrocket in value, while other similar 3B stocks are overpriced at the moment.

2007-11-14 15:49:31
72.   bhsportsguy
67 You mean "A tradition like no other" will not be taking place on Easter Sunday.
2007-11-14 15:49:41
73.   Greg Brock
those types of dates

What do you mean, "Those types" of dates? What are you trying to say?

2007-11-14 15:53:38
74.   Jacob L
60 Yikes, that is soon! I knew I had to start my Hannukah shopping soon, but I wasn't paying such close attention. Maybe that will light a fire under Ned, so to speak.
2007-11-14 15:54:27
75.   Daniel Zappala
Next time Easter will be on 23 March: 2160. Last time it was that early was 1913. It will be on the 22nd of March in 2285. The last time it was that early was 1818. The 22nd is as early as it can be.
2007-11-14 15:55:20
76.   jasonungar07
My best Hanuka...

Hand Held football game, socks, van halen fair warning tape, van halen diver down tape, rush moving pictures, rolling stones tatoo you, velor v-neck sweater vest, easton black magic baseball bat, and the topper was a fila full sweatsuit(navy)..circa 1983

2007-11-14 15:57:23
77.   bhsportsguy
73 Sorry, I mean things like religous holiday, first day of winter, Daylight Savings time changing, election day, etc.

Unfortunately, it does not tell me when the Rule 5 draft takes place or at what point does Jeff Kent finally have to tell us what he is doing.

2007-11-14 15:58:52
78.   bhsportsguy
76 That was probably too late for the great Mattel handheld football game, where a pass could be completed two screens away.

And who remmembers Intellivision, anyone, anyone?

2007-11-14 16:00:42
79.   Jacob L
76 Mattel Football II? A huge Hannukah highlight for me as well! I didn't get so much heavy rock circa 83. I remember getting Journey Escape on LP, probably that same year. Also, little baseball purist that I was, I was still using Louisville Slugger wood bats in Little League.
2007-11-14 16:01:33
80.   jasonungar07
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Mattel/FB.htm

Yeah I think it was a later version of this one. Mine was Brown.

2007-11-14 16:01:46
81.   Jon Weisman
78 - Me, me. I always wanted one. But I had the Mattel handheld football game, famous for its 99-yard runs and ability to run up the score.
2007-11-14 16:02:52
82.   Greg Brock
77 I think we all know what you meant, bhsporstguy.

Mattel handheld football was the balls. The evolution from Mattel to 10 Yard Fight to Tecmo Bowl was glorious.

Tecmo Super Bowl was another plane of existence. Stats!

2007-11-14 16:03:02
83.   Jon Weisman
80 - I had that original one.
2007-11-14 16:03:25
84.   underdog
Oh man, I had one of those Mattel football games when I was around 7 or 8. I used to drive my sister crazy playing that thing after bedtime, under the covers, all you could hear was "beep boop beep booop beeeeep..." Amazing how much our imagination filled in during the Pong/Mattel handheld era. I also had a handheld (if larger) baseball game which had a replica of a field/diamond on the face and then led lights for every position in the field. You'd swing the "bat" button, trying to time it just right - whatever that meant. It would go crazy when you hit a home run. So would my irritated family.
2007-11-14 16:04:05
85.   Greg Brock
79 I used a Louisville Slugger in Little League. But not in All-Stars, or after the age of 11.

A man's got to compete with the big boys.

2007-11-14 16:04:50
86.   Jacob L
80 I had that one. I also eventually got this one (probably around Hannukah 81-83)-

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Mattel/FB2.htm

It featured that incredible football innovation - the forward pass.

2007-11-14 16:05:04
87.   underdog
Man, is this the Dodger Thoughts Happy Hour for 37-42 Year Olds?
2007-11-14 16:07:33
88.   Sam DC
Funny -- I was just this afternoon trying to figure our a good simple handheld baseball game for my 7 year old's Hanukkah.

Any suggestions?

2007-11-14 16:07:56
89.   Jacob L
84 That reminded me of going away to summer camp, and hearing the whole cabin's sleeping bags going BEEP BEEP BEEP into the night.

Mattel Hand Held Games = Things My Kids Will Never Understand

2007-11-14 16:08:52
90.   Sam DC
10 Yard Fight -- after Defender, my favorite all time video game.

Trying to line things up for the 70 year pass . . .

And shaking free of tackles.

Anyone remember Picwood bowl?

Even if you don't, you can figure out where it was.

2007-11-14 16:09:16
91.   Daniel Zappala
I got that Mattel football game (II) for my son a few years ago, and demonstrated that I could whoop him soundly, even 20 years after last playing it. Yes, I was ruthless. Hand-eye coordination never leaves you.
2007-11-14 16:09:39
92.   El Lay Dave
80 81 I had that too, as a HS senior. It ceased to hold interest once you could play it perfectly, but until that point, boy did we have some fun. (woo hoo)
2007-11-14 16:10:05
93.   bhsportsguy
83 One small Seinfeld connection. The one time someone could say I want to play with my girlfriend's toys and make no apologies for it.
2007-11-14 16:11:11
94.   El Lay Dave
I also recall, as a college student, getting a bruised hand from playing the Atari arcarde football with the trackball control. Good times.
2007-11-14 16:12:33
95.   jasonungar07
I loved Start Me Up, Tom Sawyer and Pretty Woman. I was all about the hits! (Fair Warning was a throw in and it turns out, for me anyways to be their best album)

Ah memories.. I still have a pic, with my mom in her koufax jersey on hanuka(lol, my mom fits George's mom on Seinfield to a tee) trying to give me a kiss with my head down and totally into my football game.

I very much recall Intellevison. Those were rare, like betamax! They had those funky controllers)

I was way to into jumping over alligators on pitfall though to concern myself with trying to get my parents to get me Intellevison.

2007-11-14 16:12:45
96.   bhsportsguy
90 Yes, kids can go to that spot and see "art" movies for much more money without the fun.
2007-11-14 16:17:24
97.   underdog
94 That's nothing! I actually drew blood from that thing when it pinched flesh of the palm of my hand. I wanted to suck it up and keep playing, but coach took me out. It was hurting too much.
2007-11-14 16:17:56
98.   Bob Timmermann
Picwood Bowl:
http://tinyurl.com/2m8d84
2007-11-14 16:18:40
99.   Bluebleeder87
Bronx Banter must be going crazy.

Yeah, no kidding.