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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
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*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
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*$600,000 James Loney
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*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
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We Will Forgive!
2007-12-06 16:45
by Jon Weisman

To Ned Colletti:

We, the undersigned, extend this olive branch in the hopes of freeing you from the burden of Juan Pierre.

Perhaps you still don't see that Pierre's skills fail to justify his position in the starting lineup for a contending baseball team. In fact, even factoring in his baserunning, he stands to be one of the weakest left fielders in the major leagues offensively. And defensively, his speed is less relevant than ever with the arrival of Andruw Jones in center field.

But perhaps you have come to fully understand Pierre's flaws, yet are imprisoned by embarrassment. The Jones signing itself is enough to draw attention to the shortcomings of Pierre and the ill-advised contract he received. Perhaps you don't wish to court further indignation from some quarters of the press who would mock you for eating most of his contract in a trade or allowing new manager Joe Torre to bench him.

We, the undersigned, are here to tell you not to feel any shame. No shame! We will support and defend and praise any effort you make to rectify the Pierre mistake. We all make mistakes. We are not too proud to forgive.

We understand that Pierre is a nice guy and very fast. We are not demanding his release. Fourth outfielder status is a reasonable compromise. Everybody wins. Including, most importantly, the Dodgers.

We, the undersigned, ask you to accept that Juan Pierre should not start for the Dodgers this season.

Signed,

Jon Weisman

and those that follow

Comments (372)
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2007-12-06 08:43:37
1.   Erin
Erin W.

www.bluethoughts.com

2007-12-06 08:46:01
2.   D4P
The Trade In Which The Dodgers Aquired Delino DeShields In Exchange For Pedro Martinez
2007-12-06 08:46:27
3.   ryu
Hadooken.
2007-12-06 08:48:08
4.   Bob Timmermann
I cannot agree to these sentiments expressed with that font.
2007-12-06 08:49:26
5.   StolenMonkey86
The marching instrument which was not obtained via purchase which is about as musical as a Beasie Boys song, played by the gentleman born in 1986.
2007-12-06 08:50:00
6.   StolenMonkey86
I happen to like the font so I'll comment again.
2007-12-06 08:50:11
7.   Terry A
I have a high fever this morning, so I may be misreading that last sentence. But it appears to ask Colletti to not accept that Pierre should not start. (Also, there's a "to" v. "too" issue in the third graf from the bottom.)

Fever and all, I stand ready to forgive Colletti so he can admit the Pierre Mistake.

2007-12-06 08:50:40
8.   Daniel Zappala
We are not to proud to forgive.

to = too.

Otherwise, I agree and do hereby forthwith thusly sign.

2007-12-06 08:50:59
9.   al bundy
I'm in. Peggy and the kids too.

Thank you Jon, for leading the way.

2007-12-06 08:51:31
10.   Inside Baseball
Hallelujah!
2007-12-06 08:51:40
11.   Penarol1916
2. Oh look everyone, it is the guy who cannot tell the difference between a commonly understood acronym and one that is obscure.
2007-12-06 08:51:43
12.   Daniel Zappala
Terry A gets added to my copy editing team.
2007-12-06 08:51:52
13.   Sam DC
I'm in. DC is all about claiming victory and moving on!
2007-12-06 08:52:16
14.   Robert Daeley
This will turn into the 1776 musical, mark my words.
2007-12-06 08:53:07
15.   madmac
I am having problems with this statement. "We, the undersigned, ask you not to accept that Juan Pierre should not start for the Dodgers this season."

I think one less not and we are good.

2007-12-06 08:55:13
16.   madmac
7 Glad I wasn't the only one.
2007-12-06 08:55:21
17.   Bob Timmermann
14
Who's going to play Cesar Rodney? You know, the old sick guy from Delaware who comes in to cast a crucial vote.
2007-12-06 08:56:06
18.   LogikReader
Signed:

LogikReader (with care)

2007-12-06 08:56:50
19.   GobiasIndustries
5
which is about as musical as a Beasie Boys song

If you are attempting to bash the Beastie Boys for not being musical, I hate to tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about.
The "Check Your Head" album marked the Beasties return to actually playing their instruments rather than relying on sampling full time. Every album after CYH has featured the Beasties playing instruments. And depending on musical your musical ear, all are actually above average musicians.

2007-12-06 08:58:47
20.   underdog
Underdog and Sweet Polly Purebred are signed and ready to forgive!

(Is that font called "Pierre"?)

2007-12-06 09:00:58
21.   Kevin Lewis
I believe this will one day be a historical document, marking the beginning of a Dodger dynasty.
2007-12-06 09:02:44
22.   ImprobableImpossible
JOHN HANCOCK
2007-12-06 09:02:51
23.   Branch Rickey
We understand that Pierre is a nice guy and very fast.

That literally made me laugh out loud. Funny stuff.

2007-12-06 09:03:21
24.   Jon Weisman
I wonder if Thomas Paine got edited this carefully.
2007-12-06 09:03:51
25.   Kevin Lewis
Should we all just print this out and send it in to Ned?
2007-12-06 09:03:54
26.   capdodger
13 It's just a mater of what "victory" is. That said, this would be a victory by any metric, benchmark, or measure.
2007-12-06 09:04:01
27.   GobiasIndustries
Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Brewers blog is having quite the war of words with an annoying poster. Here is a sample of Haudricourt's latest response to this guy:

*

To "Cauleys:

You were dead on about Sheets and LA? Then you must not have seen my blog this morning in which Doug Melvin says the Dodgers never asked about Sheets.

You are wrong on so many things I don't have time to address them. It is sad just how wrong you are but when you take every rumor as gospel, that's what you get.

As far as telling me what my primary job as a reporter is, you're a joke. My primary job is not circulation and selling papers. My primary job is integrity and reporting the facts correctly. Any journalist would tell you that. It shows just how little you know about my job. As a matter of fact, every time you post a comment it shows how little you know about my job. You say you're a respected, successful businessman. Well, you certainly didn't get that by spreading the garbage you've been spreading. And you must be retired now because you apparently have 24 hours a day to read nonsensical reports and post comments. You post about 50 comments a day. When exactly are you working at this successful job? As for the prospect you keep asking me to identify in the Rolen talks, who the hell said one name in particular was discussed? I certainly didn't. But your "sources" know all. You are the expert. I know nothing. I've been a reporter for 31 years. What the heck do I know about journalism, compared to you, the master?*

For the whole thing go here:

http://tinyurl.com/35dyxv

2007-12-06 09:04:25
28.   Kevin Lewis
24

If it is going to stand the test of time, it needs to be perfect.

2007-12-06 09:06:22
29.   Bob Timmermann
24
He looks flawless!

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/commonsense/text.html

2007-12-06 09:06:35
30.   Sagehen
Signed, Debbie B.

And may I add: please oh please oh please: Keep Ethier(my favorite Dodger) and Kemp (who stings the ball so much that he is a joy to watch in a way I haven't felt since Piazza)

2007-12-06 09:06:55
31.   capdodger
24 Nope. They had yet to agree on such basick things as spelling.
2007-12-06 09:08:31
32.   Johnson
J. Johnson signed here
2007-12-06 09:09:04
33.   Ken Noe
24 These are the times that try Dodger fans' souls: The summer Dodger Dog comsumer and the sunshine beach ball bouncer will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their team; but the GM that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. The NL West, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder it will be for you to sit Pierre, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.
2007-12-06 09:09:22
34.   Vishal
i'm so on board with this petition.

-Vishal, true blue dodger fan since his age 6 season

2007-12-06 09:09:44
35.   CanuckDodger
The Dodgers brought in a new center fielder because they realized they made a mistake bringing in Pierre as their center fielder, and their way of correcting that mistake is not going to entail making Pierre their LEFT fielder. Oh, I FEAR that, because I expect bad things to happen to me, but being strictly rational for a moment, there's no reason to worry. Pierre is as much a left fielder as he is a rhinoceros -- that is to say, not one at all. We know it, and the Dodgers do too. Pierre is going to be traded.
2007-12-06 09:09:58
36.   mattkempisgod27
i agree with this 100%
2007-12-06 09:10:45
37.   chumsferd
Am I only allowed to sign this once?
2007-12-06 09:11:22
38.   BlueGremlin
I'll sign in my own blood if it convinces Colletti.
2007-12-06 09:11:44
39.   Kevin Lewis
27

I really appreciate the layout of our comments section after reading that.

2007-12-06 09:13:21
40.   blue22
Here here! Or hear hear! - MD

By my count, there are a number of teams still looking for a CFer: Texas, Atlanta, Chicago (AL), Minnesota, SD, and possibly Philly (Victorino and Werth are possibilities), Milwaukee (Bill Hall again?), and StL (Edmonds is risky, Rasmus is not ready).

With only Cameron and Rowand still available, I can see a number of those teams willing to play Pierre (for the right price).

2007-12-06 09:14:02
41.   greenchris
Ned,
Please keep the kids and trade Pierre. Greenchris.
2007-12-06 09:15:27
42.   Landonkk
LANDON KELT
Well said, Jon.
2007-12-06 09:16:18
43.   Chris H
Agreed!
2007-12-06 09:16:35
44.   Dark Horse
Signed, sealed...now somebody please deliver this to the open ears of Mr. Colletti...
2007-12-06 09:17:20
45.   jasonungar07
Love the post Jon...I'll sign the petition.

this from ITD:

Some key points from his talk with the media:

He said that this doesn't necessarily mean we'll have to move an outfielder and he likes the depth it creates in the outfield. He also said it allows us to be more focused in our quest for pitching.

He also said this makes him a little bit more comfortable about the in-house options at third base. If something comes up that is a really great option, we would do it, but pitching is the greater priority.

Ned reached out to Juan Pierre last night to talk about how this affects him, but wasn't able to reach him. And when asked if he regrets signing Pierre, he said he absolutely does not. He can't re-write history, but he implored everyone to look back at the circumstances that we were in when we signed him (only one outfielder with more than a month of experience in the Majors - Ethier). He pointed out that Juan did exactly what we expected him to do and that he has never said that Juan was a franchise player. He's a very good player on a winning team and the reason we didn't win last year was not Juan Pierre's fault.

2007-12-06 09:17:56
46.   standuptriple
Ha! I just this morning suggested "The Pierre Mistake" as a fantasy team name for Dodger fans in '08. Poppa Joe will fall victim to Pierre's grittiness (aka "belly full of guts", or as it was known at Bronx Banter BFOG+) in the tradition of Bubba Crosby and Migual Cairo. Good luck Dodger fans. At least you'll get to beat up on the Giants in '08.
2007-12-06 09:18:38
47.   Humma Kavula
Signing the petition:

Humma Kavula
Bride of Kavula
Spawn of Kavula

2007-12-06 09:19:24
48.   Sam DC
Nationals signed Aaron Boone to a one-year deal. This by an extremely righthanded team after taking a righthanded rule five infielder today?
2007-12-06 09:19:57
49.   paranoidandroid
Signed,

The often paranoid Bruce Galler and family

P.S. If you trade Mr. Pierre, I will gladly present you with my Slappy McPop-up t-shirt to hang in your office.

2007-12-06 09:19:57
50.   LeeLacy
"To err is human; to forgive, divine."

And with that, I add my name to this noble cause.

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2007-12-06 09:20:22
51.   ToyCannon
I cannot agree to such a letter. Someone must stand up for the little speedy guys with no baseball skills or they will become a thing of the past.

To the consternation of all, Juan Pierre will now lead the Dodgers to the World Championship from LF. Much like David Eckstein who wears two rings as the unlikeliest SS in the 21st century, Juan Pierre will be wearing two rings in the 21st century. First as a starting CF and secondly as a LF. Years from now baseball historians will note that the Podboy and Pierre rewrote the expectations for left fielders as they led their respective teams to the World Championship within a few years of each other, even as their own fans heaped ridicule on their derringer like guns. Being fleet of foot was the only skill that was decipherable as they both had an arm that would have even embarrassed Rudy Law, plate discipline that didn't exist, and power that only manifested itself in postseason. These two denizens of the left field tundra had something that couldn't be measured by algorithms or scouts. They had IT and that is all they needed.

2007-12-06 09:20:24
52.   still bevens
45 I will agree that our mediocre record isn't Pierre's fault. Its Wolf, Schmidt and Elbert going down. Simple as that.

Granted I would prefer Pierre was not on our team, but what are you gonna do?

2007-12-06 09:21:53
53.   bigcpa
Rosenthal not exactly aiding the cause:

Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier could platoon in right, if Kemp is not traded... The next step for the Dodgers, if they are smart, would be to trade Kemp."

2007-12-06 09:22:05
54.   Eric Stephen
At first Ned was afraid, he was petrified
Kept thinking he could never live without Juan by his side
But then he saw so many fans
That knew having Juan was wrong
Throws were not strong
And so Juan's back
Without a place
Ned called Josh in to change the media guide and take out Juan's face
Juan "got on base an awful lot"
Ned should have not said that to me
If Ned've read DT for one second he'd never have signed JP
Go on now Ned, walk out the door
Go tell Juan that
He's not a starter anymore
Wasn't Ned the one who tried to hurt us with Tomko
But did we crumble? Did we simply refuse to live?
Oh no, not us...we will forgive!
2007-12-06 09:22:25
55.   DodgerBlueBruce
Give Me Kemp-Jones-Ethier or Give Me Death.
2007-12-06 09:22:51
56.   larry slimfast
I agree, undersign and advocate. I also feel that Pierre actually has value as a 4th outfielder, his salary aside.
2007-12-06 09:23:11
57.   weatherman
weatherman
2007-12-06 09:25:21
58.   Ken Noe
45 If signing Jones means keeping LaRoche, it was worth it.

53 Did Rosenthal get anything right in Nashville? Anything?

2007-12-06 09:30:06
59.   bigcpa
58 He feels vindicated that his advice was taken on "not making Torre our only offseason acquisition." There's almost a Plaschke tone to his latest entry with the one sentence paragraph I-told-you-so opener.
2007-12-06 09:30:34
60.   Jon Weisman
4 - The font looks different on my home and work computers.
2007-12-06 09:31:16
61.   GMac In The 909
Here's my Herbie Hancock:

~GMac In The 909

P.S. Please keep both Ethier and Kemp with the Dodgers and in the starting lineup.

P.P.S. Give LaRoche every opportunity to win the third base job (with the Dodgers).

2007-12-06 09:31:25
62.   blue22
58 - What about if signing Jones means trading Pierre and LaRoche for Rolen?
2007-12-06 09:31:43
63.   D4P
Has Andruw ever publicly reported that he was injured in 2007?
2007-12-06 09:31:56
64.   Disabled List
*I'm DL, and I approve this message.*

Now, let's print out 94 more of these and nail them on the front door to Dodger Stadium.

2007-12-06 09:31:56
65.   Improbable88
X
2007-12-06 09:32:12
66.   still bevens
Assuming we keep all of our OF's, is Torre capable of juggling multiple outfielders in multiple positions? From what I read he likes a set lineup so there might not be alot of fancy platooning going on (Ethier/Jones, Pierre/Kemp, Pierre/Jones, etc etc). Unless its a strict platoon of Ethier/Kemp which would be depressing.
2007-12-06 09:33:36
67.   Hythloday
58 He ordered some ribs at dinner. Those were good. The coleslaw? Not so much.
2007-12-06 09:35:32
68.   Disabled List
54 was awesome, btw. Well done.
2007-12-06 09:35:44
69.   Sam DC
I had never really understood what a "mutual option" was, since I always figured if both sides had to agree, it was the same as having no option at all.

Wily Mo Pena just signed a two year deal, and here is how the mutual option works in that contract: "Pena will get $2 million in 2008 -- thus avoiding arbitration and getting only a slight raise from his $1.875 million in 2007. But he'll have a mutual option for 2009. If the club picks it up, he'll make $5 million in 2009. If the Nationals decline, then Pena can pick up the option for $2 million." http://tinyurl.com/ywhx3w

Very interesting. So if he performs well and the Nats want him, they have to pay $5M. If he is exposed and they aren't willing to pay that much, he can go to the market or elect to stay with the team at a pretty low salary of $2M. Seems like a smart away to get some certainty for both sides and to balance out the risks.

2007-12-06 09:37:13
70.   the2pin
I'm actually on board.

AND maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist, but...

Does anyone else think this is actually Ned being a little bit shrewd? If Ned had gotten rid of Pierre first Boras would have known the Dodgers needed a CF desperately and would have jacked up AJ's price.

However, now that the Dodgers have their CF, I think Coletti is going to get rid of Juan Pierre. Saying "Pierre is moving to left field" is a smoke screen to not let other teams in on how much we want this guy gone.

Any chance this is correct? Maybe now I'm the one being shamelessly optimistic.

2007-12-06 09:38:19
71.   jelmendorf
Re: #24

I knew Thomas Paine. Thomas Paine was a friend of mine. Jon, you're no Thomas Paine.

Paine, I think, would be in favor of playing Pierre. After all, in the Crisis, he wrote:

The NL West, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.

In short, he's all in favor of over-priced contracts because the handicap engendered makes ultimate victory all the sweeter. Imagine the joy of winning the division in spite of having the worst left fielder in the game.

2007-12-06 09:40:34
72.   Dave G
Happily and hopefully signed!

70- I think you might be right--for those reasons, and also to give AJ the idea that Pierre would bat in front of him "so that he could drive in more runs."

I think we're both being shamelessly optimistic, but hey, it's hot stove season.

2007-12-06 09:40:57
73.   paranoidandroid
I don't see Pierre getting benched. That would ruin any trade value for him. We can likely live with Nomar on the pine for $9 mil, but that is only one year. I don't think Pierre is considered a fourth outfielder by our leadership.

Even if Ned and company admit the mistake, Pierre is our problem unless he's traded, an unlikely scenario unless we find a matching problem with a contract issue. The type of trade that could work would be something like Juan and Andy for Rolen. The Cards would be rid of their guy with issues and we trade bad contracts with them.

I think if we really need to simply accept Juan as a left fielder and hope that Torre considers the old notion of American League's second leadoff man being the guy who hits ninth.

The compromise for the start of the season would be Juan in left, batting eighth. He's never been on the DL, maybe that will catch up to him this year. Addition by subraction.

2007-12-06 09:40:59
74.   Eric Stephen
69 I think Glavine had a similar mutual option. After 2006, Glavine's option was (after reaching some IP plateaus) a $14m club option, which was declined by the Mets. It then became a $7.5m player option, which was declined by Glavine. They then agreed to a $10.5m contract for 2007 ($7.5m in 2007 plus what became a $3m buyout of a club option for 2008).
2007-12-06 09:42:12
75.   Hythloday
71 meet 33
2007-12-06 09:45:24
76.   ToyCannon
63
Several cortisone shots say yes. I don't want to bring this in but my brother used to work for the Braves, even had an office right across from Aaron, and still works for CNN. A Jones was hurt, played hurt. We will be happy. He didn't have to play hurt during his walk year, he could have pulled a Chipper Jones and taken himself out of the lineup. He didn't.

D4P you've been very negative about A Jones. I think some of it is your bias about Boras being his agent. I've already got a few bets on future Dodgers performance. If A Jones does not post an OPS > 840 as a center fielder in 2008 I won't post at all in Oct/2008.

2007-12-06 09:47:29
77.   fanerman
fanerman.
2007-12-06 09:47:35
78.   Ken Noe
70 I think it's realistic. As someone said above, signing Jones if nothing else decreases the supply of CF's on the market. JP just became more attractive to some teams who need one, notably Texas and the Chisox.
2007-12-06 09:48:15
79.   Peanuts in My Shoes
-PIMS
2007-12-06 09:48:27
80.   Jon Weisman
There's more info in a new post up top. But the Forgiveness Letter remains open for signature.
2007-12-06 09:49:26
81.   Jon Weisman
76 - But I would miss your posts.
2007-12-06 09:50:42
82.   joeldtaylor
joel
2007-12-06 09:51:17
83.   Jason in Canada
Here here,
So shall it be said, so shall it be done.
(Or something like that...)

Sincerely,

Jason in Canada.

2007-12-06 09:52:28
84.   Eric Stephen
76 I've already got a few bets on future Dodgers performance

ToyCannon, I know I have an outstanding bet with you, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is. If you don't remember, I'll search the archives.

I remember the payoff is a 2009 DT Day ticket.

2007-12-06 09:53:41
85.   ImprobableImpossible
73 I don't think lineup decisions should be based on trade value. And Pierre played every game last season. Not sure his current trade value was helped out because of that fact.
2007-12-06 09:54:08
86.   D4P
D4P you've been very negative about A Jones. I think some of it is your bias about Boras being his agent

Boras doesn't help, but my concerns would be the same regardless of the identity of his agent (unless, of course, it were me).

2007-12-06 09:54:30
87.   DadofMondy
Thanks for signing Andruw to a sensible contract. John Blanchard in Lakewood.
2007-12-06 09:55:58
88.   njr
njr and lob
2007-12-06 09:57:55
89.   Daniel Zappala
I would be scared to have D4P as an agent.
2007-12-06 10:03:45
90.   Eric Stephen
84
I think our bet was that I think Kent will have an OPS+ over a certain number (110?) in 2008.
2007-12-06 10:04:34
91.   D4P
89
I would be more concerned with finding a place where my client would be happy (e.g. high quality of life, close to amenities, good chance of succeeding and fitting in, etc.) than with securing the highest salary.

I probably wouldn't have many clients.

2007-12-06 10:05:11
92.   Rob M
Hear Hear! Thanks for a nice offseason so far, R. Moore
2007-12-06 10:05:28
93.   dzzrtRatt
I'll sign, but I want a clause that says I can opt out after two months.

M. le dzzrtRatt

2007-12-06 10:07:18
94.   Andrew Shimmin
What a lot of softies. If Colletti ditches Pierre, fine, but that doesn't get him all the way off the hook for (a) putting himself in the position for no reason or (b) making me spend a year watching Pierre. It's a plea bargain, not a pardon, I'm offering. Pierre in left is my breaking point. There are perfectly good teams in Arizona and Colorado that anybody would be proud to root for. Ditch Pierre, and I can go back to just disliking Colletti, and thinking that his mother dresses him funny.
2007-12-06 10:07:48
95.   Zach the Ripper
I'm all in.

All the way in.

2007-12-06 10:08:02
96.   fanerman
91 You'd be like Jerry Maguire or something.
2007-12-06 10:11:48
97.   Andrew Shimmin
Addendum: If Colletti is willing to be booted by an Australian immediately after Pierre's walking papers are signed, then all is forgiven.
2007-12-06 10:12:57
98.   Daniel Zappala
94 This is why Andrew doesn't have kids. He won't forgive their mistakes and is worried his wife will dress them funny.
2007-12-06 10:17:16
99.   dzzrtRatt
Ken Rosenthal disconnect.

First he says this:

The next step for the Dodgers, if they are smart, would be to trade Kemp and other young talent for one of the top available starting pitchers — Orioles lefty Erik Bedard or A's righty Dan Haren.

But then he says this:

Jones, 30, is coming off the worst offensive season of his career, but should help a team that finished 10th in the National League last season in runs and next-to-last in homers.

But isn't he implying (as everyone is) an element of risk in signing Jones? No one knows if his 2007 is a fluke or the start of a trend toward decline. While I have high hopes and would've signed him if I were Ned, there's a chance Jones might turn out to be Pierre with a stronger arm (and bigger head). Until we know, would it be prudent to trade an offensive force like Kemp? It would not.

If in June, the Dodgers are losing a lot of 8-7 games, then the Dodgers can look at the option of trading one of their young offensive studs for a front-line pitcher. If Jones is back to mashing, we'd have more leeway to do that. Right now, there are too many unknowns to justify such a move.

Another point: We don't have a lot of OF depth. If a top prospect must be traded, shouldn't it be an infielder or a pitcher?

2007-12-06 10:20:39
100.   GoBears
Signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours.

-Ears of Gob

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2007-12-06 10:22:43
101.   natepurcell
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2007-12-06 10:27:37
102.   StolenMonkey86
19 I'm not claiming they were completly unmusical, but I'm not going to listen to the Beastie Boys with the same appreciation that I have for the Canadian Brass album I'm listening to now.

I marched a mellophone, which is the illegitimate child of a cornet and a french horn, or something like that. I could play it pretty well and even almost in tune, but I sounded a ton better on french horn, back when I was in practice. The point is that while I