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Your Dodger Home Companion
2008-03-15 08:15
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

When TV coverage of the Dodgers' game in Beijing last night fell through, I found myself getting ready to fall asleep with a Dodger game on the radio, and what a nostalgic sensation it was.

These days of universal TV coverage of the Dodgers have removed me from that experience of my youth, of Dodger bedtime stories. Admittedly, it was Charley Steiner instead of Vin Scully, and admittedly I also had the Stanford basketball game muted on the TV, and admittedly I also had a seriously pregnant gal lying next to me, but still, it took me straight back to my bedroom in Woodland Hills, when I would hear the play-by-play and imagine the rest as I lay me down to sleep.

Maybe next week I'll wonder if the disruption to the preparation for the team's 2008 season was all worth it, but when I picture these guys, many of whom are Dodgers this weekend by fluke, in a once-in-a-lifetime situation, I get excited. I get as excited thinking about them joking with locals on the Great Wall as I do about them hitting a home run over the wall. Those who played in Florida on Friday will forget about that day in short order. Those who played in China (today, technically) will remember it forever.

From Ken Gurnick at MLB.com:

"Major League Baseball has opened an opportunity for China, but it's also opened an opportunity to Major League ballplayers like me," catcher Danny Ardoin said before batting practice Saturday. "I've been playing 14 seasons and I've never seen anything like this. The people work hard and the place is spotless. It's a different way of life here."

Despite the compressed schedule, it's been an unforgettable experience.

"On the bus back from the Great Wall, I was saying to Xavier [Paul], I'm from Mississippi and he's from Louisiana and I wish the boys back home could see us now," said John Lindsey, in his 13th professional season and still looking for his first Major League at-bat. "I'm sure my parents are proud that their baby is in China."

"Yeah, I'm from the country," said Paul, who hails from Slidell, La. "A lot of people from my hometown think this is Mars. You can't beat it. I really didn't expect Beijing to be so modernized. It's like New York or something."

Most of the players chalked up the few inconveniences to a unique life experience.

"The bus ride back from the Wall was an eye-opener," said reliever Mike Koplove. "Seeing how many cars, bicycles, horse-drawn carts, taxis, busses, everything," he said. "To see how big this city is and how old it is. I just wish I could have seen it from outside the bus. It's been amazing. I really wish there was more down time to experience what Beijing has to offer."

Anyway, the Dodgers played to a 3-3 tie in Beijing: Gurnick, Stephen Wade of The Associated Press and Dylan Hernandez of the Times recount the pomp and circumstance.

Chan Ho Park, who actually was prevented from signing autographs to his heart's content after the game, continued to make an unlikely impression on the Dodger brass, and though Esteban Loaiza continues to hold the inside track to be the No. 5 starter, health questions about Yhency Brazoban (see Tony Jackson in the Daily News) could conceivably open up a spot for Park as a long reliever.

Hong-Chih Kuo's two scoreless innings also pleased Joe Torre, who seemed inclined to forgive Chin-Lung Hu for his shaky offensive and defensive game. In the end, every Dodger starter reached base.

Another game tonight. Alas, I'll be watching it on television.

Comments (118)
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2008-03-15 08:24:57
1.   Aug C
Chan Ho is going nuts!! What should we do... keep him and put him into the bullpen?
2008-03-15 08:33:12
2.   Jon Weisman
1 - Park doing well is nicer than the alternative, but keep in mind the level of competition he's doing it against.
2008-03-15 08:35:34
3.   gpellamjr
2 The competition isn't great, you're right. But last night Chan Ho looked really impressive. He had great control and great movement. He looked better than he has in a long time.
2008-03-15 08:38:45
4.   Xeifrank
wow, great the country boys and rest of the Dodgers loved Beijing. Yes, it is very modern in places. I'd say more modern than anywhere in the US. And it's also ancient, much more ancient than anywhere in the US. China is also full of ancient and very old history. You don't see lazy people anywhere, everyone is on the go. I would sometimes like to just stand and watch as it seemed everyone had a place to go and an important job to do, even if it was carrying a stack of vegetables on their back.
Great place, Great memories, glad half the team got a chance to go.

vr, Xei

2008-03-15 09:03:03
5.   dkminnick
Where is the best place to find the Los Angeles area Dodger radio and TV schedules online?
2008-03-15 09:10:23
6.   Gen3Blue
You have to be wary of the significance of any and all ST performances, but the amount of control shown by Park and Loiaza has me impressed. Will their stuff play as well far into the regular season?--hard to say. But realistically a team gets most of their starts from 7 or 8 guys, sometimes more. Both should be on the roster. If either keep this level consistantly our #5 could be a nice surprise.
2008-03-15 09:12:09
7.   MC Safety
Sounds like Nate had a good time last night. Trainwreck.. not so much.
2008-03-15 09:15:10
8.   CanuckDodger
4 -- "...more modern than anywhere in the US." Could you explain that, please?
2008-03-15 09:32:24
9.   tjshere
5

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ysparc

2008-03-15 09:38:48
10.   Xeifrank
8. I found the archeticture to be more modern. New buildings and new infrastructure. Probably a bit of a generalization on my part, but just a truthful honest observation. Of course, once you get out of the big modern cities it's another story. I will go to Shanghai this coming October, while the rest of you are rooting the Dodgers on in the divisional playoffs, and I am sure that Shanghai is even more modern than Beijing.

vr, Xei

2008-03-15 09:44:36
11.   MC Safety
10 Is that the Chinese who love huge skyscrapers, and crazy, technical dams? Or am I thinking of the Japanese?
2008-03-15 09:46:36
12.   Bob Timmermann
11
The Chinese build all sorts of stuff. The Japanese not so much. The latter tend to worry about earthquakes more.
2008-03-15 09:48:15
13.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think Karl Ravech meant to use the adverb in this sentence.

"A tornado allegedly rolled through Atlanta last night ..."

2008-03-15 09:54:43
14.   dkminnick
9 - Thanks!
2008-03-15 09:56:59
15.   MC Safety
12 Thanks, Bob. That's what I thought.
2008-03-15 09:58:14
16.   Bob Timmermann
My DVR schedule isn't indicating a Dodgers game on tonight and usually that schedule gets updated fairly quickly.
2008-03-15 10:19:06
17.   berkowit28
16 Mine is. FSN PT. Cox Cable here in Santa Barbara. My previously scheduled taping still refers to the old programming for 10 PM, but the current guide now says "MLB Preseason Baseball" Dodgers vs. SD, Beijing.
2008-03-15 10:23:28
18.   Bob Timmermann
17
And mine is now updated too!
2008-03-15 10:33:07
19.   regfairfield
6 Chan Ho's problem last year wasn't control, it was giving up two home runs per nine to AAA players. He had a higher ERA than all but three players in the Dodger organization last year.
2008-03-15 10:38:00
20.   berkowit28
The Nats announcers are OK. Aside from telling us what's going on as it happens, rather than idle gossip ignoring play as so many announcers seem to do, they seem genuinely interested in and respectful of the opposing team's players.
2008-03-15 10:38:17
21.   gpellamjr
The Battle for Right Field update:

Andre Ethier- 1-1 with a single.

Matt Kemp- not even in the country.

2008-03-15 10:39:12
22.   LAT
*"Instead of babying it, we're going to push it," he said. "It's a weird thing. I'm the same as I was a few days ago. I can't quite get to the next level."

Despite Schmidt's frustration, the Dodgers appear unconcerned and say his comeback is progressing normally.*

I'm no doctor. I don't even play one on TV. But I'm pretty sure in Med School they don't tell the patient push harder if your in pain and then tell the patient's family "Don't worry its normal progression." Does anyone else think this is all very silly.

2008-03-15 10:40:08
23.   Gen3Blue
19 Of course at the moment Parks stuff is playing better, but time will tell.
I also realize I hate the pitcher with a high walk rate more than some. I don't know what irks me most, the guy who's just wild or the guy who seems to shy from the plate like he's afraid of getting hit.
2008-03-15 10:40:56
24.   gpellamjr
22 Am I misunderstanding the thinking here? Schmidt realizes he's not going to get another contract. This is it for him. The Dodgers don't want Schmidt to be a totally sunk cost, but don't have much faith in him. He's not going to get better, so they say, "Play as you are and we'll see what happens."

That's how I've been interpreting this.

2008-03-15 10:49:17
25.   berkowit28
24 Sounds right to me. I suppose there's a 1 in 100 chance that someone recovering from surgery would feel stiff and some pain after a year of resting and might benefit from exercising in the hope things start easing up. About 1 in 100 chance. What the hell, worth the try for one or two days to see what happens.
2008-03-15 11:00:48
26.   old dodger fan
8 China is a land of incredible contrasts. In the big modern cities like Beijing you can see the 21st century co-existing with the Industrial Revolution as there are people with the most modern of conveniences alongside people using work animals and crude tools.

Move to the countryside and, except for the cell phones, it looks like the 18th or 19th centuries in America.

What I loved about it is how friendly people were to me. If I looked lost someone would ask if they could help me. Once my wife and I found an old courtyard with some very old buidlings. We were walking around, clueless as to what we were seeing. A young couple walked up, asked us (in English) if they could help us and then took an hour of their time to explain what the site was. They then got on their bicycles and left. BTW, he was a physician on his day off.

2008-03-15 11:03:05
27.   berkowit28
Ethier just got another HR. 2-0 Dodgers.
2008-03-15 11:07:01
28.   DodgerGrl22
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2007/gd.html?2008_03_15_lanmlb_wasmlb_1

Here is a game day link. If interested.

2008-03-15 11:08:20
29.   Bob Timmermann
Georgia and Kentucky are playing this morning and the winner plays again tonight.

And their game has gone into overtime.

2008-03-15 11:10:19
30.   Gen3Blue
Real problem. How good is Andre going to get? If they don't play him they won't get what he is worth.
2008-03-15 11:10:22
31.   bigcpa
Lackey shut down 3-4 weeks with tricep strain. http://tinyurl.com/37wqml
2008-03-15 11:10:38
32.   silverwidow
27 It makes me physically ill every time Ethier hits a HR because I know he won't start in LF.
2008-03-15 11:15:22
33.   gpellamjr
32 Cheer up. They can just put him in RF.
2008-03-15 11:17:11
34.   silverwidow
33 RF belongs to Kemp. So that doesn't work.
2008-03-15 11:24:12
35.   Aug C
2 - I understand and appreciate the idea that the competition is weaker in spring training, but I don't buy it as a solid argument to write off good performances. After all, Billinsley's spring ERA is what now, 6? I'm not going to assume that his ERA would be 8 if he were facing only major league hitters. (Although he does face a higher proportion of major league hitters because he starts all the spring games he pitches in.)

I do, however, think the sample size issue is a valid reason to discount good spring performances. And so I am by no means sold on Park's current abilities. But I gotta root for a guy who starts arguing with security about wanting to sign autographs.

2008-03-15 11:26:27
36.   bagg4
I remember falling asleep to Jerry Doggett and Vin listening to the game on KFI on my SONY pocket transistor radio. In the morning, Chuck Cecil would wake me up reading the news.

The trip to China must be quite an experience for everyone. I'd love to get one of those MLB in China sweatshirts I've seen in photos.

2008-03-15 11:27:59
37.   Jon Weisman
35 - Makes perfect sense to me that if Billingsley has a 6.00 ERA right now, it would be worse in the regular season if he were pitching the same way. But of course, Spring Training means we shouldn't take his 6 seriously.

Don't write off Park's performance entirely, but don't take it too seriously. There have just been too many instances of fringe players performing well in Spring Training against poor competition, then being unable to sustain it when the season starts.

That has nothing to do with rooting for him.

2008-03-15 11:28:01
38.   Gen3Blue
Thanks Dgrl22!
2008-03-15 11:39:12
39.   Eric Enders
Park's statistical line from last night may have come against inferior competition, but his stuff was so unbelievably impressive that I find it hard to believe that even the most fearsome lineup would have scored against him. His breaking ball was better than I've ever seen it, better even than his Dodger glory days. He looked almost as impressive as a certain mythical creature did on YouTube.

That said, it's one game, and I very much doubt that Park has the ability to consistently repeat this sort of performance. If he does, though, we've really got something.

2008-03-15 11:42:45
40.   berkowit28
Another hit, 3rd today, from Ethier, driving in Martin (walk) and Loney (who got a double). 4 RBI so far for Ethier today. (He just fell down and got thrown out at first, next play.)
2008-03-15 11:48:41
41.   berkowit28
Saito's in. That probably means crud pitchers again for the last few innings. But they're leading 6-0 this time, so maybe they can win anyway. Penny did great - 1 hit in 5 innings.
2008-03-15 11:53:35
42.   Johnson
40 (He just fell down and got thrown out at first, next play.)

That's it! Trade him for a middle reliever!

2008-03-15 11:55:54
43.   Daniel Zappala
31 Awful news.
2008-03-15 11:59:07
44.   berkowit28
Meanwhile, Pierre's out again. 4 times up, 4 down, no hits, no walks. If he keeps this up in Arizona, he can't be given a very long leash when the season begins. Saito did fine, with a little help from his friends - no runs, no hits, no walks, no errors. Proctor's on now.
2008-03-15 12:01:38
45.   bigcpa
In all seriousness, when Torre faces the beat writers next week he should be barraged with Ethier vs. Pierre questions. Colletti says the best 3 guys will play- Ethier now leads the team with 4 spring HR's, he's hitting .308, he's playing plus defense. Tony Jackson is our only hope. We must convert him and send him on the crusade!
2008-03-15 12:09:05
46.   berkowit28
Nat's 3rd base coach signaled to hold up Dmitri Young at 3rd, so Ethier threw to Furcal at 2nd, and Young scored before Furcal could get it home. Ethier's mistake. Still, after 4 RBI, I guess he's entitled to the odd mistake.
2008-03-15 12:33:20
47.   Gen3Blue
Holy Cow! They suckered a runner by Pierre tossing it to Furcal who through the runner out at home.
2008-03-15 12:33:30
48.   Bob Timmermann
El Lay Dave and I will get to work on changing the rest of the blogosphere.
2008-03-15 12:39:10
49.   fanerman
Tommy Lasorda will show Ethier some DAP in the front office.
2008-03-15 12:46:06
50.   MC Safety
How could a sane person choose Pierre over Ethier?
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2008-03-15 12:47:30
51.   DXMachina
And Tommy finally gets a win.
2008-03-15 13:05:45
52.   berkowit28
47 Yup. Same play (using Furcal as relay to home plate) worked for Pierre's arm where it didn't work for Ethier's. ;-) Not really. What happened was that this time the Nats runner didn't see the 3rd base coach telling him to hold up at 3rd.
2008-03-15 13:16:22
53.   regfairfield
50 Pierre makes more money.

As a further sign that Spring means nothing Pierre leads the team in isolated patience.

2008-03-15 13:24:42
54.   trainwreck
Pierre needs to play some basketball with Vlad Radmanovic or Davon Jefferson.
2008-03-15 13:35:17
55.   underdog
Speaking of Tony Jackson -- from his latest post:
>>I'll save admitting I was wrong for sometime during the regular season. This is, after all, SPRING TRAINING. But yes, for now, Andre Ethier, having just gone 3 for 4 with an opposite-field HR and four RBI, is hitting .300 to Juan Pierre's .186 (he went 0 for 4, one ball hit out of the infield). Kemp is hitting .308 after going 1 for 5 as the DH in the People's Republic.
This is Bob Schaefer after the game on the fact the club now APPEARS to have three OFs competing for two spots:
``It's better than having two. It's a good problem to have. It's going to be tough to make out the lineup, and Joe realizes that. We have four solid outfielders. But Joe will work it out. We're always going to have a good guy on the bench, put it that way. You're better off with too many that not enough.''<<
2008-03-15 13:40:13
56.   bhsportsguy
48 If you are still on, I'll come up to your area before the game.
2008-03-15 13:41:51
57.   bhsportsguy
54 Its amazing how North Carolina and Tennessee can have close games and come out smelling like a rose (against teams that have never been ranked all season) and UCLA gets grief for its games.
2008-03-15 13:44:14
58.   trainwreck
57
Yeah and they are given so much credit for winning terrible conferences.
2008-03-15 13:44:44
59.   Bob Timmermann
56
I'm still on. I'm going to leave pretty soon. I'm going to drive down and park by Staples.
2008-03-15 13:45:48
60.   Bob Timmermann
57
But Billy Packer, idol of Greg Brock, has spoken! And Billy Packer always speaks the truth! He is the kindest, smartest, gentlest college basketball analyst ever.
2008-03-15 13:49:09
61.   trainwreck
I am sure the fact that Billy calls games for the ACC makes him very impartial when it comes to that conference.
2008-03-15 14:08:02
62.   Eric Enders
Also the fact that he played in the ACC.
2008-03-15 14:29:09
63.   madmac
22 having had an ACL reconstruction and several other knee surgeries I can say that it's quite common for docs or phys therapists to say you need to push through the pain. It's part of the therapy/recovery. You don't just wait till you don't feel pain anymore. If he's healed enough to the point that working it isn't undoing the fix then he just needs to keep building it up. Really, what do either the Dodgers or Schmidt have to lose at this point.
2008-03-15 14:37:42
64.   John Hale
Dick Vitale just mentioned that he thinks Dean Smith and Bob Knight (amongst others) are being suppressed from sharing their knowledge to the general public.

I hope someone like ESPN gives these former coaches a forum to speak...

But Packer is still worse

2008-03-15 14:40:18
65.   Eric Enders
I just heard John Saunders say the name "Darren Collison" on College GameDay and I was taken aback. It was genuinely shocking to hear a Pac-10 player's name actually mentioned on the Worldwide Leader in East Coast Sports.
2008-03-15 14:49:41
66.   Bob Timmermann
You are looking live at Staples Center in Downtown Los Angeles!

At least I am.

There is an added prize in the Griddle NCAA Tournament contest!

2008-03-15 14:57:43
67.   underdog
{Snap!} You GO Rotworld!

>>Andre Ethier went 3-for-4 with a two-run homer and four RBI in the Dodgers' 6-1 victory over the Nationals on Saturday.
Ethier is hitting .300/.429/.600 in 40 at-bats, while Juan Pierre is at .186/.271/.209. Ethier has, of course, posted better on-base percentages and slugging percentages than Pierre in both of his years in the league, and while he might not have quite as much range as Pierre in left field, he is an above average defender. It's a good thing for Pierre that the Dodgers care more about fame and salary than performance when it comes to handing out playing time. Mar. 15 - 4:37 pm et<<

2008-03-15 15:05:41
68.   Ken Noe
67 Ethier's won the LF job in any reasonable universe, period. Whether that describes Torre's universe remains to be seen, but I am strangely hopeful even after Tyler Hansbrough broke my Hokie heart. You don't need to understand modern metrics to interpret a .186 average.
2008-03-15 15:16:56
69.   Bob Timmermann
Surprisingly a lot of empty seats here at Staples.
2008-03-15 15:17:11
70.   Eric Enders
Clemson just beat Duke. That clears the way for a #1 seed for the Longhorns if the Cardinal can beat UCLA tonight.
2008-03-15 15:21:40
71.   Bob Timmermann
But it's only 3:21!
2008-03-15 15:23:05
72.   trainwreck
Worst nightmare!
2008-03-15 15:25:46
73.   Bob Timmermann
My worst nightmare involves being stranded on a desert island where Billy Joel is worshiped as a god.
2008-03-15 15:32:09
74.   Bob Timmermann
Am I missing Gus Johnson because I'm at the game?
2008-03-15 15:32:53
75.   trainwreck
74
Yes, you are!!!
2008-03-15 15:40:28
76.   trainwreck
Coach, we need you to bench Kevin Love.
2008-03-15 15:40:49
77.   Andrew Shimmin
Dodger trainers, evidently, start out as UCLA basketball trainers.
2008-03-15 15:42:00
78.   Andrew Shimmin
Somebody get the man a banana.
2008-03-15 15:44:52
79.   trainwreck
Not again! Keep Love out of the game.
2008-03-15 15:47:21
80.   Andrew Shimmin
Lorenzo Mata-Lama-Ding-Dong-Real and Kevin Love:two great tastes that taste great together.
2008-03-15 15:48:20
81.   Retire 55
Zero chance Tony is "converted to the cause." Like the rest of the Dodger press corps, he's greasing potential sources by defending the team's worst signing.
2008-03-15 15:48:56
82.   Bob Timmermann
I'm assuming from my lofty perch that Love has back spasms or something like that.
2008-03-15 15:51:28
83.   Andrew Shimmin
82- That's what the announcers are saying. I think it may be alien gestation pains; but that's just a guess.
2008-03-15 15:57:01
84.   trainwreck
I don't think these falls are helping Love's back.
2008-03-15 15:59:31
85.   Bob Timmermann
Kevin Love falls over as often as Lonnie Smith did playing the outfield.
2008-03-15 16:00:59
86.   skybluestoday
Re: 73

College girlfriend music. Necessary at the time in order to get face-time, but not timeless.

2008-03-15 16:06:54
87.   Bob Timmermann
That half proved nothing!
2008-03-15 16:06:58
88.   trainwreck
Great job by UCLA so far. To be tied with Standford with Luc and Love hurt is quite an accomplishment.
2008-03-15 16:07:43
89.   trainwreck
Of course, be leading if the free-throw shooting was not so horrible.
2008-03-15 16:08:09
90.   Eric Enders
Stanford is so bad at transition defense. No way Collison should have been able to make that shot at the buzzer.
2008-03-15 16:09:53
91.   berkowit28
81 Actually, he's not doing so any more. You're out of date - check his blog, or just read this thread we're on. So it could never have been zero chance. Your speculation as to his motivation seems a little farfetched anyway.
2008-03-15 16:18:39
92.   Jon Weisman
88 - You know, Stanford doesn't have Luc or Love either. :)

I know the Lopezes don't do it by themselves, but it sure seems that way a lot.

2008-03-15 16:23:19
93.   Bob Timmermann
The Bruins made just one free throw in the first half! And it was by Mata-Real!
2008-03-15 16:25:13
94.   berkowit28
While you're all commenting on a basketball game, I'm following a play-by-play blog of a Test cricket match between England and New Zealand in Wellington. Just saying so in case someone else here knows what I'm talking about and would like to start a second non-baseball dialog to confuse everyone. (We would certainly outlast the basketball game...)
2008-03-15 16:27:50
95.   Bob Timmermann
How many days is this Test?
2008-03-15 16:28:40
96.   Dodgers49
23 . I don't know what irks me most, the guy who's just wild or the guy who seems to shy from the plate like he's afraid of getting hit.

I prefer the wild ones. :-) With them at least there is always the chance they may improve their control (See Koufax, Sandy :-) ). Guys who shy away from throwing strikes usually have a valid reason for doing so. They know that if they put their "stuff" in the strike zone it's going to be hammered (See Tomko, Brett :-) ).

2008-03-15 16:35:32
97.   Dodgers49
No question about Loaiza

http://tinyurl.com/3xeuyv

2008-03-15 16:36:25
98.   Bob Timmermann
Brook Lopez has been given a grant of immunity from Pac-10 refs in exchange for having more fouls called on his brother Robin as well as Taj Finger.
2008-03-15 16:36:46
99.   trainwreck
How come Brook Lopez does not get talked about as a top 3 pick?
2008-03-15 16:37:49
100.   berkowit28
It's the 4th day of a 5-day Test. England actually have a chance of winning, probably tomorrow. (Only International matches between the national teams of "first class" cricket nations - the top 8 or so - can be called Test matches. And they're always 5 days. Though other types of "first class" matches of this sort can be 3 or 4 days.)

Because of the time zones and the length of this type of cricket - typically starting at 10 or 11 AM local time and going on for some 7 or 8 hours with short breaks - I'm whiling away the time between the two Dodger games today almost exactly. Today's play started at 2 PM Pacific time, less than an hour after the Florida game ended, and will finish at just about the same time that the Beijing game starts.

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2008-03-15 16:40:15
101.   Bob Timmermann
This is America, pal. Use a singular verb with England
2008-03-15 16:47:27
102.   berkowit28
Nah. Not when talking cricket. Anyway, they (plural) have just stopped for the lunch break. I'm going to take my dog to the park. I could come back to find virtually nothing has happened (most likely) or that the match has changed utterly and is half way to being over (very unlikely, but possible). Not during lunch, I hasten to add - even cricket is not that crazy - but just afterwards.
2008-03-15 16:49:56
103.   Marty
It's hailing in Altadena right now.
2008-03-15 16:51:49
104.   Jon Weisman
Tiger is back tied for the lead after three rounds.
2008-03-15 16:52:11
105.   Gen3Blue
96 I definitely like your thinking on that one. I hadn't considered guys like Tomko lately.

All I know about cricket I learned from the Patick O'Brian books so I may be a bit behind the times.

2008-03-15 16:55:52
106.   Eric Enders
What is the weird three-point line behind the regular three-point line at the Staples Center? It's not NBA distance.
2008-03-15 16:56:58
107.   trainwreck
So many time stoppages.
2008-03-15 16:57:17
108.   Bob Timmermann
Stanford has just three team fouls in the second half.
2008-03-15 16:59:18
109.   Bob Timmermann
I think the other 3 point line is for FIBA.
2008-03-15 17:07:58
110.   Eric Enders
The Pac-10: Where if you fall down and slide along the floor for five feet, it's not traveling.
2008-03-15 17:08:11
111.   Jon Weisman
UCLA has two more fouls than Stanford this half.
2008-03-15 17:11:49
112.   Bob Timmermann
But six more points.
2008-03-15 17:17:36
113.   trainwreck
Well that was un-timely.
2008-03-15 17:19:24
114.   trainwreck
Pac-10 champions!
2008-03-15 17:21:03
115.   Eric Enders
It's amazing how often players go into brainlock in the final seconds. What were you thinking, Mitch Johnson?
2008-03-15 17:21:24
116.   Jon Weisman
I honor the Pac-10 Tournament for its true-to-formness. UCLA is a deep, tough team.

I wish we had won, though.

2008-03-15 17:25:49
117.   Jon Weisman
Jim Hill just commented on how the last time Stanford and UCLA met ended with Josh Shipp's amazing shot.
2008-03-15 17:36:22
118.   Jon Weisman
NPUT

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