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If you have any parking tips for the Dodgers' Saturday Coliseum game you feel like sharing, please feel free to do so here.
Also, remember that we just created a new Dodger Thoughts Ticket Exchange Thread, permanently located on the right-hand sidebar, that might be of use this weekend or this season.
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An update on former Dodger third baseman Adrian Beltre comes from John Hickey of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer:
Beltre injured the wrist diving for a ball June 1 against Texas. The diagnosis at the time was a sprained thumb. After five games on the bench, Beltre returned to the lineup.
Beltre played most of the rest of the season, missing just eight of the club's final 107 games.
When the injury, which was supposed to heal with rest, didn't come around after the season ended, Beltre finally underwent an MRI exam at the urging of the team's medical staff.
The new diagnosis caught Beltre off guard. He had a torn ligament.
Merry Christmas.
(Link courtesy of The Hardball Times)
"So are you pretty excited the Dodgers got the best manager in the game?"
Sigh. But then he dropped this bombshell on me.
"Juan Pierre wishes he had half the skills Rickey Henderson had, best leadoff guy of all time."
Turns out my Dad was once a 4.4 running speedy CF himself, who actually got the concept of getting on base=scoring runs. That was pretty exciting for me because I barely ever see my Dad, and he never talks about baseball.
Thanks to Kevin Baxter I have realized that Andruw Jones would be more valuable off the bench than Pierre. Problem solved.
http://tinyurl.com/3ccege
vr, Xeifrank
My plan is to park a car in the vicinity of the Coliseum way ahead of time for the trip home. I'll either ride the DS shuttle to the game, or take the Blue Line from downtown to the Washington stop near Figueroa, and walk from there. Its probably little over a mile.
I knew that hanging out with USC alums would pay off in the longterm.
13 I have a similar plan too, park there at USC or Coliseum in the morning, take a bus home (I already checked out my route) then either get another ride or bus back later that day.
The first version of this comment had a lot of Rule 1 violations. I mean a lot.
So, since I'll be leaving the game at 9:45 or so, regardless of whether it's over, will the shuttle work for me? That is, will the shuttle REALLY be constant through the evening? Or should I drop $30 for parking somewhere near the Coliseum? Or is there another option I'm not considering?
If it matters, I am planning on leaving the South Bay at about 5 p.m.
http://tinyurl.com/3xm6yf
The phone number in 7 is now accepting messages. I've left a message with my phone number and asked someone to call me back. We'll see.
vr, Xei
They even stuck out the reigns of John Robinson II and Paul Hackett
We discussed this at the last Trilateral Commission meeting.
How 'bout walking back to the bus stop at Midnight after the game? And the transfer stop at Vermont/Wilshire?
It's been years since I've been there, and my impression of the area is not positive. Thinking LA Story.
I would be paranoid about putting that much faith in a system that has not even had a first run
At 4 pm on a Saturday you should have no trouble.
Remember that 90000 or so USC fans go to games without incident.
As we live pretty much on the Green Line, I am considering public transportation. Going to the Metro site, I see that I can take the Green Line to something called the Harbor Freeway/I-105 station, and from there, catch Metro Bus 445 to the Coliseum.
This is probably the most convenient plan for us... but public transpo, especially in that part of L.A., has such a bad reputation as being an unsafe thing to do. I don't know if this reputation is deserved or blown out of proportion. If anyone has any insight, I'd appreciate it. Avoiding the traffic is something that seems worth doing.
Today's starting lineup in their last exhibition game in Arizona.
Pierre, LF
Furcal, SS
Kemp, RF
Loney, 1B
Jones, CF
Martin, C
Abreu, 2B
DeWitt, 3B
Penny, P
If Kent is healthy, I would expect to see Kent at 2B and Abreu at 3B, who know what the OF situation will be.
vr, Xei
I thought Dave Roberts was pretty valuable as a pinch runner in the 2004 World Series.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26oo3k
It's by Tom Oliphant, the political columnist. He was nine or ten that year and lived or died with the Dodgers.
It's got some annoying typos, as though the copyeditor let some tears blur his/her vision while remembering that era, but it's still entertaining.
I see UCLA is lined up to play in the regional finals on Saturday, as well. My DVR may be pulling double duty.
He needs to rest from all the total bases he had this spring. You can't expect him to recover too quickly from being on base so much.
vr, Xei
"This is how my career has been," said Ethier, who was acquired from Oakland for Milton Bradley two years ago. "Oakland didn't think I could help them out. I came here and did it. I know I can play every day and help. They must not believe it, that's just the way I see it.
"I see plenty of teams out there giving guys a chance. I understand Los Angeles is a whole different market. There are expectations. So, the last two years I've had to open eyes enough for them to believe I'm capable. I know I had to have a big spring -- they told me I had to have a big spring -- to play every day. Sometimes you need a kick in the butt or a chip on your shoulder to bring out the best in you."
So Bob's point at 32 makes sense to me.
But I also took the subway and walked around New York at all hours, I think I only took a cab once.
vr, Xei
I'd worry more about the Warriors. I hear they're headed to Coney Island for a big brawl.
I mean, isn't that why Ethier has an agent? In private conversations with management, he and his agent can tell the Dodgers just what they think. The agent can also talk up his client in the paper -- that is his job. But for Ethier to say it... well, I wouldn't want to work alongside a guy who was quoted in the newspaper as saying he'd be better at my job than I am.
And he's also just pointing out that he's done everything they told him he's had to do to get the job every day.
At his age every year he sits on the bench takes millions from his pocket. When he plays he may care about the team but when he sits he knows he's losing money. JP has his money, so when he sulks he's just being a hard working sulker. The veterans who tell him to suck it up and worry about the team also already have their millions. At this point in his career Kent only cares about winning, I doubt that is all he cared about when he was 24 and trying to win a starting job with Toronto.
vr, Xei
Plus, to play any sport at a high level, you have to believe that you are better than everyone else. Even if all the evidence is to the contrary. And here, it's not.
Lastly, sometimes comments like this are needed in the media, it's the only way to get through to management.
If Ethier is not starting he couldn't care less about whose feathers he ruffles. He needs to play and if is not in LA then somewhere else. Nothing will get him traded quicker then creating a problem as I'm sure his agent has suggested.
Reporter: Do you think you should start in LF?
TeamPlayer: It doesn't matter who plays, anyone with Dodgers on their jersey will play winning baseball, via magic.
We can't have ETHIER traded. I don't think that will happen. It's fairly obvious that Ethier is the better player, and I think even Tommy Lasorda and Joe Torre know as much.
Now why would either of them be swayed by what some goofball one setence paragraph writer spews from his laptop?
To me that's sulking. You're not helping anything at all by saying that you should be playing over another guy.
Because their boss thinks that a lot of people in LA care about what that goofball writes. Their boss thinks that enough people agree with or are influenced by the goofball and that will affect the team's bottom line.
Now, Torre being Torre and Lasorda being Lasorda, there's probably only so much they care about what McCourt thinks, except that they might also think, "Hey, it's his team. Whatever."
Dang did I have a spelling error? Aw man... it's "sentence" not "setence".
vr, Xei
For me, you have identified the essence of the argument.
Will push come to shove?
What's really frustrating about all this is that it's unlikely to be "resolved," until JP is either traded (unlikely) or craters so completely he sits down for good. We're going to see more of him this year than we want, regardless.
What a disaster that signing was. Worse by the hour, and until or unless we're rid of the guy completely, I just don't see any resolution possible.
Like I said the fact is both guys are handling the situation very unprofessionally and this could become a major problem in the clubhouse.
vr, Xei
Look, this is a problem. There's no point pretending that it isn't. Both of them firmly believe they should be playing every day. There's nothing wrong with that, the problem is, only one of them has the game to prove it. At this point, it's incumbent upon management to solve the problem correctly, and no longer with smokescreens about how "this is a great problem to have." We're in a tough, tough, tough division. If McCourt, NedCo and Torre want to compete within it, they're going to have to do the right thing. All the rings in a box in the world won't change that simple fact.
The only problem is that they're afraid to give me the responsibility because just last year they hired some hotshot from out of town. He's already making the big salary and is set for life. And while his performance is OK, it's clearly not what's best for the company because my contributions would be much greater.
How can I help my company and set up my family for life without getting an opportunity?
So a guy that hangs around the office came up to me in the hallway and asked, "Hey I-I, don't you think you should get that promotion?" And I say, "Yes I do. I've done exactly what the company has asked of me, my performance is excellent and I think I deserve that promotion."
Does that make me unprofessional?
I doubt very seriously that Pierre would accept an exclusive bench role. It's not like his skills have diminished any since he signed that contract. His 2007 season was a carbon copy of his 2006 season. He did what he was supposed to do, and him being benched would be the Dodgers' tacit acknowledgement to the world that "yeah, this guy really is overrated after all." Pierre would demand a trade (and who would blame him?), and his trade value would plummet even lower than it already is. As it is, his contract makes him virtually untradeable unless the Dodgers eat a huge portion of it.
I'm tired of hearing that the OF logjam is "a good problem to have." This problem sucks. No matter what the decision ends up being, there's going to be at least one player with his nose out of joint.
And, realistically, no one is going to take Juan Pierre, even if the Dodgers kicked a great deal money. And finally, there given how the Dodgers lost their two top 3B in a span of 30 minutes, I don't think the Dodgers will be comfortable with the prospects of either Repko or Young being in line to replace one of the starting threesome if Pierre was dealt.
I wonder if they have considered him as a second baseman?
LaRoche and Dewitt in the same lineup next year could add some serious power potential.
But history shows they can trade away favorites and the people will keep on coming. I hope someone in the front office realizes they can make a move that might upset the casual fan, but the seats will keep being filled. Pierre's contract will be paid for, whether he is on the team or not.
I think he scrawls his columns on used hot dog napkins, blotted with mustard, and then takes them to an intern at the Times and forces him/her to type it on "that computer doo-dad."
http://tinyurl.com/3b9pla
But he does go to Communion!
It will be fun to see how he progresses.
Right now, he is raking the ball.
It looks like he has taken some big steps this spring.
That seems much easier to say if you are not playing baseball every single day and in the situation that Ethier is in. I understand your point about being professional, but I think Ethier is just saying what everyone knows, and he is doing it without belittling Pierre. I am impressed that more frustration and anger has not come out in his comments, because if I were him, I would be pissed about this...especially since he felt the same response from the Oakland management. "Just put me on a team where I can play" is what I would be saying. Yea, he wants to play for a champion, but he also wants to earn what he is due in this league, and he won't be able to do that for his family by sitting on the bench.
Yes, but not enough to recognize the line...especially since it is a cliche in this sport.
You know, I used to like Pierre. I used to watch him play for the Marlins and wish the Dodgers could have someone like that. I still wish the Dodgers could have someone like that. Too bad Pierre's not it.
I think honestly, Pierre could contribute if he felt "comfortable." But that conditional contribution is not the mark of a champion. The mark of a champion is when challenged, you come out and play like Babe Ruth for a month.
Like I've said they're bothing handling the situation poorly and are both wrong IMHO.
In all likely hood more then one will get hurt and we will go from a plethora of choices to not enough.
SportsNation Eric Karabell: (3:30 PM ET ) Yeah, he's looking like a steal for those who got him a few weeks ago very late in drafts. At this point I think most people agree he's going to play quite a bit, so it hurts his sleeper status, but he's got some pop, hits for average. Juan Pierre might not pay so much.
Pierre will cry all the way to the bank.
Ethier, Jones, and Kemp will need a day off here and there.
Pinch hitting to lead off an inning.
This is where Pierre will see most of his time on the field, unless one of the others gets hurt.
I don't interpret this as a complaint, a sulk, an accusation, or a lack of team-spirit. Ethier's expressing gratitude for the management giving him "a kick in the butt" and expressing pride that he rose to the challenge. This is a competitive group of people, not a reunion of It's a Beautiful Day. They're going to talk about themselves in terms of challenges met.
If the team decides that Pierre's "old school," "intangible" playing style is what they need, I hope Ethier will be traded. He is a solid player. He ought to be starting somewhere. If he does well, it will be a costly but valuable lesson to Colletti and McCourt. (Plaschke is unteachable.)
You know who would just kill to get Andre? The Giants. I wonder if there's a good pitcher or two somewhere in their AA ranks. I know it's heresy, but if Ethier is traded, I want it to hurt.
* http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/070928
What Ethier is doing is stating the blindingly obvious - they told him he had to have a great spring; he had a great spring. They told him he needed to contribute; he contributed. Now they aren't saying the job is his; he's rightfully frustrated.
It's not sulking, it's not whining. It's being competitive and confident.
And don't forget, as Dodger fans especially, we all know where nice guys finish.
Prince Humperdink?
Maybe Ethier for Jonathan Sanchez or Noah Lowry, but even that's pushing it.
What does that mean for the pen?
Closer: Broxton
Set-up: Proctor
LH Situational: Beimel
Middle relief: Seanez
Middle/Long relief: Kuo
Long relief: Park
That's my guess.
I think Joe is trying to see all the bullpen possibilities and middle infield guys, I think he has an idea of what he will do with the OF but its not like he is going to just play 3 outfielders in the remaining few exhibition games.
Wendy (DC): Any thoughts on Clayton Kershaw? Spring stats don't mean much, but he's looked good. Any chance he's the best pitching prospect at the end of the year?
Christina Kahrl: His spring performance has been strong enough to put him in the Dodgers' rotation picture in April, which would have seemed incredible just two months ago, but as you know, he is that talented. Add in being left-handed, and there's an argument right now that he's the best pitching prospect around right now, regardless of rookie status or eligibility or any of that. If his rookie status gets expended this year, that doesn't change, any more than it does for Joba Chamberlain or Clayton Buchholz; they're just an exceptional trio of talents any of us would wish to have on our favorite team for the next ten years.
I wonder if Meloan will get a call back this weekend?
It's funny that I was pimping Troncoso yesterday and he then gets shelled.
Now, if you decide that you have better options than that, so be it. But I don't think JP walking more, having a power surge or developing a rocket arm was going to change the scenario this spring. Unfair as it may seem, it was all on Ethier (and to a small extent, Kemp) to come in this spring, be professional and perform.
They did that, and now Joe Torre and staff will decide those players fates for the 2008 season.
*-(Pun intended. He has a buttocks injury.)
Frank (Boston): Can you elaborate on C-Bills injury? Is it just a tight groin or somethign wtih more long term implications like a shoulder or elbow??
SportsNation Matthew Berry - The Talented Mr. Roto: (3:17 PM ET ) Long term stuff - like this year. Was told off the record, so can't elaborate but there's a reason I have him listed as a bust
125 Will Carroll has hinted towards this assumption about Billingsley for the last year or two.
cargill, you must have had a pretty great life so far. ;-)
I didn't, I'm just a shell of my former self.
Someone in another thread said they had never heard Chick do the play by play of the Lakers. I can't even imagine such a scenario. The 1st time I ever heard him was when they used his call of the Jerry West 60 footer that tied a game in the championship round only to lose in overtime. If the 3 pointer had been around they would have won the game and the championship.
This presumes that neither the Knicks nor the Lakers had made any other shots in that game which were from three-point length.
I hate logic when it is pointed in my direction.
Its now been 15-16 years and I don't even think about it when I see Magic but back then, people out here was as low as I can remember.
To be honest, I had always thought the same as ToyCannon and I just had that thought come into my head a few minutes ago.
Sort of like a Saul on the road to Damascus moment.
He seems to blame Kemp for not being able to convince the Dodgers to play him every day. It seems to me the fault lies with Dodgers management.
am i pulling a rusty shackelford by trying to put all these independant sources quotes together to add up to something greater?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCXSWI2nX50
I don't think Gar Heard has ever been to Damascus.
categories- offense-R,H,HR,RBI,SB,K,BB,TB,AVG
pitching- W,L,CG,SHO,SV,K,HR, ERA, WHIP
given those catagories would you rather have, more back-up offensive players for more PA's or more back-up pitchers to give you more IP
Brilliant
That's what you can expect from a Granada Hills High alum.
Good fielders go to Kennedy. Just like noted glove Garret Anderson.
As someone brought up a few days ago - March '86 when Guerrero broke his ankle - that was like the year ending before it began.
Maryvale is supposed to be the worst stadium in the Cactus League, expect TJ to confirm this.
I'm kinda in the neighborhood today...I may pop over there for an hour seeing how I was denied a firsthand Minotaur sighting last night on Surprise. He's again rumored to appear.
149 what did braun do?
That did not stop Hope Solo from appearing in the new Nike commercial.
I only get stressed when crazy moves are actually made, not talked about. Whatever happens in April can be fixed as long as they don't do something rash.
Come July when Ned trades our starting 3rd baseman for a middle relief pitcher, that is when I get stressed.
By which I mean: how much of it is chicken/egg analysis? How much of it has to do with how a team is constructed? If, for example, the Red Sox had Pierre playing left field and Erstad DHing, how would it effect the number?
I'm just wondering if it's really that valuable of a stat. I mean, would Dodger stadium have been such a pitcher's park if not for Koufax, Drysdale, Sutton, Orel, and Fernando over the years, even with all the foul territory?
Its not like they could go to the highest bidder someday. I have their rights until their arms blow out.
November 7, 1991: I still remember hearing the news. I was a sophomore at Palm Springs High, and I went after school to the mall with friends. I stopped in at the hairstylist shop where my Mom worked (probably to ask for money), and her first words to me were, "When I tell you the news, you're going to be sick."
I was shell-shocked. At 15, my entire sporting fandom included Magic at the forefront. I walked around in a daze after that, and for some reason headed back to the school to get something. I ran into the PSHS track coach and in-school suspension cheif John Carlos -- the former Olympic sprinter -- and delivered the sobering news about Magic. What I saw in his face mirrored how I felt.
I think I wore a different Magic Johnson t-shirt every day for a week after that.
There's no way I thought Magic would still be with us five years later, let alone 16+ years later. Amazing.
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Was Gar Heard's shot from that far out? I seem to remember it being from 18-20 feet or so. "Wont start till it's touched. Gar Heard turnaround iiiis....GOOD!"
(Well, there was that comeback, but our Minotaur was pretty young then too.)
Ball high and away
Fouled back, strike two
Change-up, pop-up to LF. One out.
My mother called me at work to tell me the news. She didn't like to call her sons at work because she thought it would be embarrassing to them. This was a rare exception.
Curveball called strike one.
Pitch in the dirt. 3-1.
Fouled back. 3-2.
Fastball knocked for a double down the RF line
Black Power John Carlos of the Mexico City Olympics?
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/summer-olympics-mexico-city.html
Doing Suspension Duty at PSH, how sad.
Fastball fouled back. 1-1.
Another foul. 1-2.
Curve just outside. 2-2.
Fastball fouled. 2-2.
Fastball, called strike three.
Back then it always seemed to be a death sentence. I'll never forgive Karl Malone.
Foul pop-up. 1-1.
Called strike. 1-2.
Curveball fouled. 1-2.
Fastball just inside. 2-2.
Low and outside. 3-2.
Foul on a 96 mph fastball. Still 3-2.
Curve, called strike three.
Another scoreless inning for the Minotaur.
And, along the same lines, does anyone know when Extra Innings actually starts? Seems like last year I got most pre-season games, but this year none of them are available yet.
He's a better player.
And then, the LA Sports entered a dark time, with few bright spots for the rest of the decade.
Black Power John Carlos of the Mexico City Olympics?
The same! He was a really cool guy, always had good stories. He really should have won the silver medal, but the look of shock on his face when Aussie Peter Norman (the Mike Myers to Smith/Carlos's Kanye West) passed him was classic.
I should have heard more of John Carlos's stories, but I was never in detention. :)
You speak the Gospel Truth
Sing it aloud to the congregation
Shout it aloud to the nonbelievers
A lot of things changed during that time.
I think the Warriors' announcers called a similar timeout an "infectious disease control stoppage". I couldn't tell if they were joking.
Gabe Kapler. Grounder to third. One out.
Swinging strike three.
(Steiner fails to explain the superpowers which allow the Minotaur to strike out batters on only two pitches.)
Ryan Braun. First-pitch grounder to Hu. Three outs.
Take THAT, Ethier!
He's a pretty decent pitcher, this Minotaur fellow.
But I'm standing on 2nd base and I'm going to make 40 million over the next 4 years while Joey will be lucky to get a major league pension. Life is good
Probably something we will not see a lot of in LA this year.
Ball high. 2-0.
Called strike. 2-1.
Fouled back. 2-2.
Curve, swinging strike three.
The nice thing about having a mythical pitcher is the batters can't see his pitches either.
9 ip, 7 hits, 1 er, 2 BB's, 10 k's
213 9.1 IP, 7 hits, 1 er, 2 BB's, 11 k's
Curveball, strike. The crowd audibly says "ooooh!" in unison.
Fastball high. 2-1.
Fouled back. 2-2.
Fasatball high and inside. 3-2.
Fastball high. Ball four.
Peter Norman, who wore an Olympics Project for Human Rights badge on the medal dais, died in 2006; Carlos and Smith were pallbearers.
http://tinyurl.com/yvoyz4
Curve, strike. 0-2.
Strike three swinging on a fastball. Two outs.
The Brewers struck out the 6th most in the NL last year after finishing 2nd most the previous 2 seasons.
Fastball, swing and miss. 1-1.
Changeup, swing and miss. 1-2.
Foul grounder. Still 1-2.
Kershaw picks off Corey Hart, but Lucille II drops it.
Fastball. Ooohs and aaahs. Fouled off. 2-2.
Curve in the dirt. 3-2.
Swing and miss on a fastball, strike three.
Minotaur strikes out the side.
3 IP, 1 H, O R, 1 BB, 5 K.
I read that too.
If you've got a line up that includes Pierre, Eckstein, and Erstad they're going to score less runs than a line up that includes ManRam, Tejada, and Big Papi. Similarly, if I have a rotation that includes Beckett, Penny, and Santana, they're going to give up fewer runs than a rotation that includes say, the Nationals rotation. So, a team with a powerful line up but a poor rotation would see their park effect go way up, no?
Along these same lines, I would think that the make up of the teams that would most commonly play a road game in your stadium would drastically affect the park effect (meaning teams within the division).
172 - I recognize that the stadium is much different than it use to be, if I was unclear, I apologize, but I was eluding to that.
http://tinyurl.com/3xbhrl
Public Enemy #1 = Clayton's curveball's nickname.
How many pitches have nicknames? That's what makes it cool.
I used to think the anticipation surrounding Kershaw was roughly similar to the pre-injury Greg Miller. Miller, after all, was a true stud before he got hurt. But although he had a good spring last year (which was followed by a profoundly disappointing season), he never had this sort of absurdly dominant big league spring training. Jackson was hyped after he beat Johnson, but Kershaw's a lefty, and I don't think people were as impressed by his raw stuff as they are with Kershaw.
At this age, it really is astonishing. Among recent pitching prospects as a whole, the buzz surrounding him reminds me of when King Felix stepped on the scene in Seattle.
All that being said, he should still go down to AA and work on his control. Along with his changeup, which he did throw today. But if he keeps this up, the org. will really have no choice but to call him up earlier rather than later.
WWSH
Roger Clemens threw "Mr. Splitty."
I still give Hernandez a 50/50 shot of making the Hall of Fame, though. It's just taken him a couple of years to assimilate.
Willy Crawford
Alan Foster
Bobby Valentine
Never knew we had wolverines. Well that is cool.
2007 NL:
Tm SO
FLA 1332
SDP 1229
PHI 1205
COL 1152
ATL 1149
MIL 1137
PIT 1135
WSN 1128
CIN 1113
ARI 1111
CHC 1054
HOU 1043
NYM 981
STL 909
SFG 907
LAD 864
but i think the bull-pen maybe a major pain in the ass this year espically if saito doesn't regain his velocity.
So... who else can fill that last bullpen spot I wonder...
Meloan, paging Jon Meloan...
Actually, does Greg Jones have a shot? I've only seen him pitch twice this spring but both times he looked pretty solid.
Because of that, you have not seen guys pitch in their normal spots.
I hope he likes Chinatown.
"You're a starter!"
"You're a reliever!"
"A starter!"
"A reliever!"
"A starter AND a reliever!"
Meloan: When can I be on the major league team already?
Colletti: "You're a very nosy fellow, kitty cat. Huh? You know what happens to nosy fellows?"
Penny pitched a career-high 208 innings in 2007. His 32-13 record over the past two years is the best in the league. His 20-3 mark during the first half of the past two seasons is the best since Randy Johnson went 17-2 in 1996-97. He finished third in last year's Cy Young voting.
Did it involve elevators? :)
WWSH
If Penny didn't have that arm injury right after DePo acquired him, who knows how things would have worked out for the franchise.
WWSH
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022286/
Pierre can come off the bench and hit singles as well.
Actually, shouldn't that make him a more valuable bench player? Since most of the time, all the team would need from a PH is a single or so and maybe the ability to steal bases.
Seriously, we can turn this around and show that Pierre, with his skillset, is better suited for the bench (besides showing that he sucks).
The Dodgers think they are playing in a 5x5 fantasy league. They need Pierre to start to boost their steals and BA.
Not to mention that with Pierre as PH, you can pick and choose when to deploy him. In the Bill James Goldmine, it was mentioned Pierre leading off an inning was really good (forgot the number of runs per inning the Dodgers scored; book is at home).
If Torre can pick and choose to have Pierre lead off the 8th or 9th inning of a close game, his excellent baserunning can be much more of a factor.
Really, Pierre's game is suited to playing for one run, which is only most viable late in the game.
283 Which is why I didn't like the strategy today in the top of the 8th. Down one, Young on 2nd after a double, no out and JP tries to sacrifice, TWICE, unsuccessfully, then grounds to first. I don't know, obviously, if he is sacrificing on his own or if the bench called for it, but I don't like it. JP should be trying to hit the ball to the right-side attempting to get a hit (which he gets 29% of the time) and settling for a "productive out" at worst. With a hit, he's aboard as the tying run.
vr, Xei
Once acquired by the Yankee's from age 30 - 35 he never had on OPS+ < 123 and from age 24-36 never had an OPS < 100. Hard to do when you've accumulated 2100 plate appearances against LHP and only posted a 699 OPS.
http://tinyurl.com/3yjxz6
I saw KC advertising the all you can eat yesterday during the broadcast. Evidently Young McCourt was on to something. At least in American Indulgence the Dodgers are at the lead of the pack.
295 , 300 I thought that writing of throwing up in an AM-PM parking lot was a nice touch.
In the end of this fantasy, so many teams are looking for this kind of player, that JP could call his future and would be happy to stay a Dodger.
Jon Heyman of CNNSI is saying on the radio right now (on Petros and Money) that he has not spoken to any scout who thinks Pierre is a better player than Ethier and that Ethier needs to start.
He also says how JP is a good guy, blah blah, makes a lot of money but in the end, Ethier will help you win more games.
The food cost on Dodger Dogs, nachos, and soda is pennys. They are raking it in out there.
Really? I thought that sentiment was solely the opinion of teenage female Dodger fans. Maybe cougar Dodger fans too.
Am I way off on 283? I would swear that outside of JP, I rarely, if ever, see non-pitchers sacrifice in that situation. Moving over the tying run at home or winning run on the road I've seen, not the tying run on the road. Or is "play to tie at home, to win on the road" just a dumb, old-time maxim?
BTW, Saito threw a simulated game, 25 pitches, today and he is scheduled to pitch 1 inning in Anaheim on Thursday.
Could Karl Hungus really be Bill Plaschke?
I'd bet a trashcan on it!
Example:8th inning, Dodgers tied or behind by one run, Kent singles with no outs.
Who should come in to run for the old man?
The late inning specialst, of course!
Same situation, but the pitcher is due to lead off.
Who ya gonna hit? The late inning specialst of course!
Juan Pierre can greatly enhance his value to a championship team, if he will embrace this role.
The late inning specialist.
It's that time of the game and the crowd begins the chant, "We want Juan!, We want Juan! ..."
Clayton Kershaw is dead to ToyCannon. Who knew?
And we should remind him of this often.
1) Has anyone here ever read Robert Caro's "The Power Broker"?
2) Has anyone here ever actually finished the book?
322 Your with me (307). The trouble is we may be too deep in fantasyland thinking this could actually happen. I have been accused of occasionally getting manic or euphoric.
Has anyone else heard this? If that's the case, I can see Kershaw up as soon as he goes down.
But, if true, this news sucks.
Can this be the beginning of the new reality for JP?
There are positives aplenty.
Can we calculate how many more wins per season he is worth to the team when used in this role?
I'll bet it's more than as a starter if that means Ethier or any other player of that ilk is sitting in JP's stead.
JP can bank his pay and extend his career well into his 40's if he can maitain his legs (no problem for this workaholic).
JP will be hailed, rather than reviled, as "The Late Inning Specailist"!
Juan Pierre steals another win for the Dodgers!
"We want Juan! ... We want Juan! ..."
Neal Pollack reminds me of a friend of mine... The wine and cheese kind of guy. Neal has obviously missed the point of going to Dodger Stadium... or sports for that matter.
He looked fine when I watched him on Sunday and his fastball seemed to have plenty of life. His spring results would add fuel to the fire if you don't believe his change-up thing is true, but I'm still thinking this story is bogus.
This could be as large as the Juan Pierre is good conspiracy.
I hate Will Carrol.
What again was the rationale for Carroll's assessment of Billingsley? Wasn't it based on his increasing workload, or something like that? Or does Carroll claim to have a source inside the Dodgers training staff?
I for one continue to find the injury speculation unsupported, but Carroll usually seems to know what he's talking about. He was right, after all, about Green's shoulder injury. But like Nate said, Billingsley doesn't have an injury history, and I've never heard of anyone being worried about his mechanics.
Other than our own Bluebleeder87.
Predicting that ANY pitcher is an injury-risk is hardly a longshot.
Please tell me why the point of sports is to eat nachos until you vomit. And what's so "regular guy" about choking down a bunch of hot dogs? You can disagree with my POV about the all-you-can-eat seats. That's what it's there for. But don't go questioning my interest in/loyalty to the team.
also in the 2nd to last line of 341 make that "their".
Hi Neal,
I apologize if for that comment. After reading it again, it appears to be a personal attack. I should know better than to make a DT Rule Violation like that.
Besides I completely agree with you on two fronts:
1) The Gordon Biersch Bratwurst is fantastic! I've had it a couple of times with the Garlic Fries and I enjoy it immensely.
2) Gorging myself is not my idea of taking myself out to the ball game.
Again, I hope you accept my mea culpa and I appreciate the note of clarification. I think I was trying to defend the Dodger Dog (which I happen to love, along with nacho cheese) and got carried away.
I will not, however, defend eating 10 Dodger Dogs in a row. Usually after two I'm spent!
In high school, I worked at In-N-Out, and occasionally some cheese corners would slip onto the grill and burn. They tested like Cheezits x100, and they were hot and fresh!
But, burnt mac & cheese is fantastic.
There's so much great food in L.A. Canter's is a start. I wouldn't eat it every game, but I'd definitely try the corned beef once.
Brie, Roquefort, Pol le Veq, Port Salut, Savoy Aire, Saint Paulin, Carrier de lest, Bres Bleu, Bruson?
Camenbert, perhaps?
"Ah! We have Camenbert, yessir."
You do! Excellent.
"Yessir. It's..ah, it's a bit runny."
My Apologies
Does this make up for it?
http://tinyurl.com/2bh4ef
Burnt marshmallows in smores for me.
Fun story, actually. The first time I ever had one of those delicious Canter's Corned Beef sandwiches was while waiting in line for my first taping of "The Price is Right."
I think it was about 3am in the morning and for an hour I was trying to figure out what to eat, so I asked my sister to hold my place in line as I went up Fairfax from CBS TV City.
What could I even eat at 3am? The only place that was open was this one restaurant with a huge neon sign that said "Canter's," so I decided to go in and check it out. I ordered a Corned Beef sandwich and a Pastrami Sandwich for my sister. I go back, start eating the sandwich, plastered with mustard of course, and start shouting "MMM! OH! YUM!" while everyone around me was still shivering in the cold.
I come to find out the next day that Canter's is a famous Los Angeles institution that has a reputation for these kind of sandwiches. Every time I go back there, I order the same thing.
I remember it like it was yesterday, but it was only two years ago. I took my nephew out to a game in June. It was a Sunday game against the Phils. The seats were in Field Level section 1 (still the best seats I ever had). However, before the game, we stopped over at Philippe's on the recommendation of this board and others. Man was that sandwich good. I think I had either the lamb or the roast beef dip. That mustard stays with you in more ways than one, and I think I had at least four ten cent lemonades. Unforgettable!
The Dodgers lost the game that day, and I remember Joe Beimel had a particularly bad outing, but I enjoyed every minute of it.
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I'll call my shot. I think Ethier starts on Opening Day and goes 1-3 with a walk.
The Dodgers used five pitchers during that game:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2006/B06040LAN2006.htm
and Beimel was the only one who had more than four letters in his last name.
The others were Sele, Baez, Seo, and Kuo.
Good stuff.
vr, Xei
Am I not mistaken in saying that Bills had a complete game near-shutout during his start in Houston? Where in the heck is all this backlash coming from?
I believe Wikipedia will tell you the truth!
If you can't believe Wikipedia what else can we believe in?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH4KP6uqtMg
Comment 116:
D4P
I'm guessing Bob would prefer "bison" over "buffalo."
Later:
'129. Disabled List
"Bison" would be a killer nickname for Kemp.
The sports world has been without without a Bison since Dele met a weird end in the South Pacific or something. Bison Kemp works for me. I second that motion.
https://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/387331.html
Awesome.
I love You Tube.
Also, that looks like it was filmed at Corona del Mar High School. Or is there another high school with the mascot of "Sea Kings" in a hilly area?
This series of videos is too cool for words.
Kemp, Zambrano, Ethier.
The ball he throws at 1:47 is sick.
>> PHOENIX - Diamonds finally are being carved into a triangle-shaped piece of property some 30 miles west of downtown, a sign that the final phase of the Dodgers' move west is shaping up some 50 years after it began. <<
http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_8687071
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