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April 13 Open Chat: Where Everybody Knows Your Name
2005-04-13 16:11
by Jon Weisman

So if I've got this right (starting at comment No. 433)...

Eric Enders is cast as Frasier but recast as "the beer-swilling slob" Norm Peterson.

Bob Timmermann is cast as The Thin Norm Peterson but recast as Frasier.

Suffering Bruin is Cliff.

BigCPA is auditioning for Woody, though I don't know if he can play that dumb.

Steve is Carla.

I think I get to be Sam - perhaps the biggest honor of my life - but perhaps I'm overreaching.

Casting is open for Diane and Coach, among others.

No need to audition for the role of Rebecca. On Dodger Thoughts, there was no Cheers after the fifth season.

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Tonight's Game

Comments (178)
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2005-04-13 16:23:39
1.   Marty
You need a Lilith too
2005-04-13 16:25:37
2.   Bob Timmermann
If I'm Frasier I get to pick the Lilith don't I?

My girlfriend is almost, but not entirely unlike, the Lilith character.

2005-04-13 16:30:10
3.   dan reines
i nominate plaschke to play gary.
2005-04-13 16:33:14
4.   Bob Timmermann
This note was in the Daily News today:

Brooklyn jerseys: In celebration of the 50th anniversary of the club's first World Series title, the Dodgers will wear jerseys with "Brooklyn" across the front in blue script for Friday night's game with San Diego. The jerseys will have no numbers on the front.

I think this will be the first time the Dodgers have ever worn throwback uniforms isn't it?

2005-04-13 16:35:40
5.   Steve
2005-04-13 16:41:42
6.   Jim Hitchcock
The fat actress is going to be bummed.
2005-04-13 16:45:49
7.   Eric L

How much different are the Dodger uniforms from the Brooklyn days? There are a few changes here and there, but the uniforms have stayed similar.

It isn't like when Houston seems to completely change their style every few years.

2005-04-13 16:51:31
8.   Bob Timmermann
You can look at various old uniforms for the Dodgers through the uniform database from the Hall of Fame's site:

I think the Dodgers should wear the windowpane unis that they did when they went to the World Series for the first time back in 1916.

2005-04-13 16:54:18
9.   Eric Enders
Who gets to be Andy Andy?
2005-04-13 16:56:09
10.   Jon Ericson
I'm Barfly #4, but I hope the producer will notice my impeccable comedic timing and give me a speaking role. ("Bob!")
2005-04-13 17:04:48
11.   Eric Enders
Jon, er, Sam, remind me to get some tips from you on picking up women!
2005-04-13 17:13:40
12.   Suffering Bruin
I'm Cliff?? Bob T. corrects every grammatical error, research error, etc. in every post (and we love him for it, don't get me wrong) and I'm Cliff?? Okay, Bob's a better writer, probably smarter... yeah, okay, he's Frasier.

But Enders?? He's a super-cool guy, complimentary, funny... yeah, okay, he's Norm.

Steve as Carla? No argument. It fits.


Omigod. I'm Cliff.

I showed the post to my wife, Jon. I'll let you know what she thinks as soon as she stops laughing... (sigh)


Today's fact of Choi, SB Claven's favorite player, 2005:

This world, it be a mighty small place.

Hee-Seop was signed by the Cubbies by a scout who saw him on the Korean National Team. The Koreans were training at Cocoa Beach, Florida and were keeping it queit because they didn't want any of their players stolen by the MLB.

The Cubs Pacific Rim scout (yes, they had one and he was good) got wind of things from an Asian contact. "I flew there, and Hee Seop was the first one who stood out. The other one was (now Rockies reliever) Byung-Hyun Kim."

Choi must've impressed the scout, among others. The Cubs signed him for a $1.2 million signing bonus.

So, what's my point? The Cubs ended up trading Choi to the Marlins for Derrick Lee, son of Leon Lee... the Cubs Pacific Rim scout who "discovered" Choi in Cocoa Beach.

2005-04-13 17:14:07
13.   Suffering Bruin
I'm Cliff?? Bob T. corrects every grammatical error, research error, etc. in every post (and we love him for it, don't get me wrong) and I'm Cliff?? Okay, Bob's a better writer, probably smarter... yeah, okay, he's Frasier.

But Enders?? He's a super-cool guy, complimentary, funny... yeah, okay, he's Norm.

Steve as Carla? No argument. It fits.


Omigod. I'm Cliff.

I showed the post to my wife, Jon. I'll let you know what she thinks as soon as she stops laughing... (sigh)


Today's fact of Choi, SB Claven's favorite player, 2005:

This world, it be a mighty small place.

Hee-Seop was signed by the Cubbies by a scout who saw him on the Korean National Team. The Koreans were training at Cocoa Beach, Florida and were keeping it queit because they didn't want any of their players stolen by the MLB.

The Cubs Pacific Rim scout (yes, they had one and he was good) got wind of things from an Asian contact. "I flew there, and Hee Seop was the first one who stood out. The other one was (now Rockies reliever) Byung-Hyun Kim."

Choi must've impressed the scout, among others. The Cubs signed him for a $1.2 million signing bonus.

So, what's my point? The Cubs ended up trading Choi to the Marlins for Derrick Lee, son of Leon Lee... the Cubs Pacific Rim scout who "discovered" Choi in Cocoa Beach.

2005-04-13 17:14:34
14.   Suffering Bruin
Sorry for the double post. I don't know what happened...
2005-04-13 17:17:40
15.   Bob Timmermann
I've cut back on correcting grammar. I only correct spelling if it's unintentionally funny or it's in the category of "misspellings that bug me". (Classic example, Mark McGuire)

I do like to correct what my high school journalism teacher called GFEs.

Gross factual errors

I have a broad definition of that.

I forgive double posts.

2005-04-13 17:23:11
16.   Smirk
I think it only fitting that "Jim Tracy" is Coach. And SB, read your post, you're definitely Cliff.
2005-04-13 17:26:31
17.   In Enemy Country
Is Odalis on a pitch count again tonight?
2005-04-13 17:28:19
18.   Marty
Hopefully Odalis' second outing is better than Weaver's
2005-04-13 17:38:19
19.   bokonon42
Better than Lowe's, too.
2005-04-13 17:39:03
20.   Suffering Bruin
Bob, I hope you saw my post as overstating for the sake of overstating. I seriously enjoy being corrected and let's face it, I've had my share of GFE's.

#16 - ouch, Smirk.

2005-04-13 17:40:34
21.   Smirk
Don't get me wrong, SB. "Choi's fact of the day" is one of my favorites.
2005-04-13 17:50:22
22.   Suffering Bruin
Didn't get you wrong, Smirk but thanks for checking. I thought your comment was very funny because the post was very Cliff-like.

One of my favorite Frasier episodes: Sam (Ted Danson) is guest starring. He's still involved with sexual addiction support groups and plans on marrying one of his fellow addicts (played by Tea Leoni). He visits Seattle to introduce his soon-to-be wife to Frasier. Upon seeing her, Frasier remembers sleeping with her and doesn't know how to tell Sam, if at all.

Anyway, the three of them end up in a hotel talking it out. Frasier convinces both of them to get all of the old baggage out there and be done with it. She starts telling Sam all the people she slept with: Frasier... Norm. As they go down the list, it becomes harder and harder for Sam to forgive her but forgive her he does.

But then she tells him she slept with Cliff.

"I slept with a woman who slept with Cliff?!?", says Sam. He leaves the hotel, angry and hurt. She begs Frasier for help. A dumbfounded Frasier gazes off in the distance and says, "I slept with a woman who slept with Cliff?"

2005-04-13 17:52:33
23.   Steve
Allow me to ask Enemy Country's question again because I do not have radio and I would like to know the answer -- is Perez on a pitch count tonight?
2005-04-13 18:01:12
24.   Smirk
That's hillarious. But if you slept with my girlfriend, SB, just say it. You don't have to use some sort of television analogy. Just say it.
2005-04-13 18:02:48
25.   Smirk
No idea on the pitch count for Perez. Didn't Penny pitch a game today?
2005-04-13 18:02:49
26.   bigcpa
How about the Cheers episode where Ishii duels Clemens to a 0-0 tie into the 7th? Gag!
2005-04-13 18:08:47
27.   zappala
Yes, Penny pitched today for Vero Beach. 5 innings, one run. 1 HR, 1 double, 1 walk, 3 Ks. They won 5-3.
2005-04-13 18:16:29
28.   Fearing Blue
Penny pitched today for the Vero Beach Dodgers. Here's the link to the box score:

Here's his line, though the box score doesn't show what his final pitch count ended up being.

Penny (W, 1-0) IP 5.0 H 2 R 1 ER 1 BB 1 SO 3 HR 1 ERA 1.80

He was supposed to only throw 70 pitches, so 5 innings is great.

2005-04-13 18:29:48
29.   Jim Tracy
Can I play the part of Coach? Of course I can.
2005-04-13 18:30:16
30.   Jim Tracy
What the heck is wrong with Ishii?
2005-04-13 18:31:20
31.   Jim Tracy
2H and 3BB in 7 innings.. only 103 pitches. I remember 4 innings starts for the Dodgers with that many pitches.
2005-04-13 18:43:39
32.   Suffering Bruin
I just read the Gammons article. I thought it was very good.

Phillips? Have to be an Insider and that ain't worth a read of Steve Phillips.

2005-04-13 18:45:56
33.   zappala
Ishii did this lots of times. One bad start followed by one great start. He was either really good or really bad.
2005-04-13 18:50:50
34.   jeongers
Speaking of bars, I'm off to one in 15 minutes to catch the Dodgers game. Woohoo! I got conned the last time I went to this bar to watch Cal barely survive against Southern Miss. A regular convinced me that he wrote for SI back in the day. He actually knew a ton about Pac-10 basketball, so I believed him. Actually got me to buy him several pints of PBR while he regaled me with stories of the old Pac-8. Anyway, I figured out he was full of crap when we started talking baseball. I think I said something about how someone on the Angels was not only good, but cheap.

To which he responded, "That's what I like about you Orientals--you're good with money."

"Uh, yeah, no more beer for you, dude."

I have to assume a former SI writer would never say anything like what he did. Poor, drunk slob. Anyway, he promised he'd buy me breakfast while watching the NFL the next day in return for the drinks I bought him. Never did get a call. Nice guy, just little ignorant and drunk. Smart enough to see a mark, though.

I've lost focus. Oh yeah, Go Dodgers!

2005-04-13 18:51:16
35.   Im So Blue
Re #23: On the Dodger Dugout pregame show, during the interview w/ Marquis Grissom, Steve Lyons said that Odalis is not on a pitch count tonight.
2005-04-13 19:08:42
36.   Jim Hitchcock
Gentlemen...start your oxygen.
2005-04-13 19:09:48
37.   Fearing Blue
Anyone have any idea why Paul Bako is in the lineup? Phillips just got a day off Monday and he'll get another one tomorrow. I think Tracy may be taking this platoon thing a little too far, considering that Bako can't really hit righties either (.666 lifetime OPS vs. righties). He's 2 for 8 lifetime against Tomko, so it's not for the matchup.
2005-04-13 19:17:23
38.   zappala
three ground balls, I like that
2005-04-13 19:20:58
39.   Suffering Bruin
Atta boy, Mr. Choi!
2005-04-13 19:22:43
40.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Yeah Choi! Hopefully this is the start of a hot streak for Hee Seop.


2005-04-13 19:23:31
41.   Wayne Wei-siang Hsieh
Drew walks. Isn't that like the third straight walk for JD?


2005-04-13 19:24:14
42.   Sam DC
Well, I've always aspired to be Harry and since he's unclaimed, I'm taking him until hooted off the board for doing so.

In DC, the end of the Orioles/Rays game is preempting the Dodgers/Giants on ESPN2. I bet there are more aggravated Dodger fans watching this on TV than there are people in Trop Field. It looks expos-level empty down there, though it may just be the camera angles.

2005-04-13 19:26:01
43.   Dodger Hill
Maybe Choi will have a good game so the vultures will go roost somewhere else.
2005-04-13 19:30:10
44.   Fearing Blue
I'm very fortunate that I have the Extra Innings package. I was listening to inane commentary by Joe Morgan on ESPN2 before I realized that I could listen to Vin instead on FSW2. Life is good so far tonight.
2005-04-13 19:31:25
45.   Marty
Maybe it's just because I'm paying more attention because of this great blog, but it sure seems to me that this team is really taking every game, in fact every at bat very seriously. It seemed in other years that even after one week, they would tend to take a game off mentally, but not this one so far. Again it may be all my imagination. Anyone else sense this?
2005-04-13 19:34:30
46.   Sam DC
Am I to understand that #26 was not a joke?
2005-04-13 19:36:53
47.   Eric L
Adrian Beltre woulda made that play..
2005-04-13 19:37:27
48.   Langhorne
Nice pick, Jose.
2005-04-13 19:40:38
49.   Dodger Hill
No, #26 wasn't a joke. Amazing isn't it?
2005-04-13 19:41:56
50.   Bob Timmermann
I read the Phillips article and he is not critical of Tracy or DePodesta very much at all in my opinion. He states that since both of them won the division last year that they deserve a full year.

Phillips said that since DePodesta essentially rebuilt the team entirely he will feel pressure because it is "his" team. He can't blame it on having bad players to start with.

Phillips may not agree with DePodesta's methods. He was just pointing out that he is setting himself up to the fall guy if the Dodgers have a bad season. He thinks that his pick of the Dodgers finishing fourth may be incorrect.

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2005-04-13 19:43:08
51.   Steve
I'm just going to come out and say that Bako shouldn't be anywhere near this game -- that way he'll hit for the cycle.

25 pitches in the first inning if I'm not mistaken. That'll get it done sooner or later.

And a nice heart and soul play by Valentin taking out the 2B on the potential double play.

2005-04-13 19:49:45
52.   Eric L
I dunno Bob, I don't think this line is very complimentary..

"Also, there may be some discrepancy between what DePodesta thinks the quality of the team is and what it truly is"

Then again, he does go on to say that he thinks DePo may be smarter than himself.

2005-04-13 19:50:05
53.   Sam DC
Joe and folks on ESPN2 just spent 5 plus minutes bashing The Trade. Over and over again. And then some more. And virtually no discussion of, you know, the notional arguments in support of the trade, except for a toss off line about how the Dodgers did need to get a number 1 starter -- but that didn't work out -- and why didn't they get the Big Unit anyways? Sigh.

Stadium looks very different on TV. Ribbon scoreboard is pretty loud. Colors all look different. Can't say I'm liking it but, in many respects (baseball team rosters somewhat excepted), I'm really not good with change. Judgment reserved for a while (at least unti I actual get into the park for a game . . .)

2005-04-13 19:51:08
54.   Bob Timmermann
Say hi to Irving Zeiger tonight!
2005-04-13 19:52:23
55.   Sam DC
#53 -- you know, in fairness, it was probably less than five full minutes. But it was long long long.
2005-04-13 19:54:42
56.   Steve
I was surprised Dish Network didn't charge me an extra 50 dollars as a "No Joe Morgan" tax -- sort of a high-tech version of the Value-added tax. I would have paid it.

And they black out the Rockies so I don't have to listen to George Frazier either. It's a win-win.

2005-04-13 19:55:26
57.   Eric L
Let's call the ribbon scoreboard what it really is.. the "LCD Advertisement Ribbon" with a small section for baseball related stuff...

Though I was happy to learn yesterday that Garvey wouldn't let hairloss beat him.

It really isn't that bad. I think I'll agree with everyone else and say the worst advert is the DHL thing on the bullpen gates.

2005-04-13 19:55:46
58.   Denezin
Sam DC,

I think my favorite part was when Joe stated that the Dodgers would have likely gone far into the playoffs if they hadn't made The Trade.

I remember when I used to think Joe Morgan was pretty interesting for an announcer. Either he has really dumbed down over the years or sites like Dodger Thoughts have made me a lot smarter (or do I just feel that way?).

I feel like The Trade (and the great Beltre Snubbing) will be mentioned ad nauseum on every national broadcast until the Dodgers are up six games at the All-Star Break. Then we'll start hearing about JD Drew's continued break out and Kent's heart and soul (tm).

2005-04-13 19:55:52
59.   zappala
Choi's bat looked plenty fast there.
2005-04-13 19:56:01
60.   Marty
2005-04-13 19:56:32
61.   Eric L
Hopefully that'll shut up the goofballs who booed Hee Sop yesterday!
2005-04-13 19:56:45
62.   Steve
YAY!! Tomko leaves the book on Choi at home!
2005-04-13 19:57:30
63.   Denezin
"Let's Play Choi". Yay.
2005-04-13 19:58:13
64.   zappala
Oh, Drew almost got one there! Come on guys, heat up!
2005-04-13 20:01:11
65.   zappala
Jeff Kent is awesome. And I never thought I'd say that.
2005-04-13 20:01:19
66.   william
i HEART kent
2005-04-13 20:01:26
67.   Mark
2005-04-13 20:01:37
68.   Denezin
How will we ever replace all of Beltre's home runs? 4th place here we come.
2005-04-13 20:01:48
69.   Jim Hitchcock
See ya!
2005-04-13 20:02:35
70.   Fearing Blue
Choi's stats against the SF Giants are now
4 for 28 with 3 HR and 14 Ks. Strange.

Way to go Kent!!

2005-04-13 20:05:10
71.   Steve
Those 25 pitch innings sure do add up fast.

But this is Cesar's team.

2005-04-13 20:06:10
72.   zappala
Anyone have any stats on errors by team so far this year? I know defense can't be totally analyzed by errors, but Joe Morgan doesn't know that. I'm just wondering if the Dodgers really are leading the league in errors or something so far, because he keeps perpetuating the myth that the Dodgers defense is worse this year. By what measure? OK, maybe I shouldn't give him credit for even trying to find a stat to support his opinions ...
2005-04-13 20:07:26
73.   corey
I don't know what it is, but I'm quickly growing attached to this team. Adrian who? :D

And thank God we aren't stuck with the espn2 feed here in the OC.

2005-04-13 20:10:51
74.   Dr Love
Did Karros and Morgan get a 2 for 1 discount on suits?
2005-04-13 20:13:33
75.   Steve
You have to remember that Joe Morgan's problem is that because he doesn't understand "Moneyball," he thinks it undervalues his own skills as a player, and therefore, is a direct slam on him. Morgan as a high OBP, 80% effective stolen base guy, and a second baseman with a strong OPS, was simply a great player Moneyball or no Moneyball. But he feels his legacy is in danger.
2005-04-13 20:14:51
76.   Dr Love
Jason Ellison is my favorite Giant. Next to Armando Benitez.
2005-04-13 20:15:25
77.   Steve
You're welcome everybody. Who should I give up on next?
2005-04-13 20:15:54
78.   Dr Love
Paul Bako with the Jason Phillips RBI double magic!
2005-04-13 20:16:24
79.   Steve
I wish he had slammed that ball into the warning track like he did last night.

The Dodger scorer is generous tonight, Ledee gets a double.

2005-04-13 20:17:07
80.   Jim Hitchcock
Okay, Cesar...this time you can hit a fly ball.
2005-04-13 20:18:52
81.   Steve
Dangit Cesar, this is YOUR TEAM here, buddy! Let's drive in that run next time.
2005-04-13 20:18:56
82.   Herb Stencil
Remind me to buy Jason Ellison a beer and fruit basket.
2005-04-13 20:19:09
83.   Marty
Nice to hear cheers for Choi on that at bat.
2005-04-13 20:22:39
84.   Mark
This isn't Izturis's team. I'm not sure who's team it is; Bradley? Gagne? DHL?
2005-04-13 20:23:00
85.   Mark
whose... blah
2005-04-13 20:23:20
86.   In Enemy Country
I hate to say it but I feel sorry for Ellison. He's in his own head now. Odalis looks good. The KTVU gun had him touching 90 a couple times.
2005-04-13 20:23:28
87.   zappala
Nice catch by Drew! Thought for sure that was a hit.
2005-04-13 20:23:29
88.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Wotta catch by JD!
2005-04-13 20:23:31
89.   Mark
Shawn Green would have... er, let that ball go to the wall as he calmly jogged after it.
2005-04-13 20:23:46
90.   Dr Love
The defense stinks!
2005-04-13 20:23:47
91.   Jim Hitchcock
Beachball snipers, report to stations...

Nice catch, J.D.!

2005-04-13 20:23:56
92.   Steve
Alex Cora would have run all the way back there, turned a somersault, and thrown out a Texas Ranger runner at home.
2005-04-13 20:24:20
93.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Vin now isn't bothering to hide his disgust when a beach ball gets on the field.
2005-04-13 20:24:36
94.   zappala
That would have been a long throw from Dodger Stadium to Arlington Stadium!
2005-04-13 20:24:56
95.   Steve
Matheny hit that fly ball with all the heart and soul he could muster.
2005-04-13 20:25:36
96.   Jim Hitchcock
Run support for Odalis...a trend?
2005-04-13 20:25:38
97.   zappala
OK, this is out of place on a Dodger forum, but I sure wish the Angels still had Glaus. What a stud. Or hey, the Dodgers could have signed him ... Sigh.
2005-04-13 20:26:17
98.   Steve
Yes, it would have! You have no idea the power of Alex Cora! He can make blind men see and raise dead men from the grave.

But he can't hit Woody Williams. You can't have everything.

2005-04-13 20:27:47
99.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Run support for Odalis...a trend?
Now that Kaz iz gone, somebody else gets that love.
2005-04-13 20:28:19
100.   In Enemy Country
That defensive play might snap JD out of his funk. He barely missed a dong last at bat too.
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2005-04-13 20:28:37
101.   zappala
Hey, if Cora can do that, then maybe he can do it in reverse too! Throw out a Giant at the plate from wherever he is tonight. Heck, his game is probably over anyway. Or he could help out between innings.
2005-04-13 20:28:55
102.   Dr Love
Is that Jason Repko in the "I live for this" commercial?
2005-04-13 20:30:15
103.   Steve
He can keep Jeff Kent's bat warm between innings.
2005-04-13 20:30:46
104.   Dr Love
Hats for bats. Keep bats warm.
2005-04-13 20:33:14
105.   Dr Love
Vaunted Giants defense strikes again.
2005-04-13 20:35:38
106.   Steve
Those watching Joe Morgan:

First of all, (Nelson laugh)

Second of all, does he say anything about the Giant defense at all? Four errors yesterday, or Jason Ellison, etc.?

2005-04-13 20:36:17
107.   In Enemy Country
Can anyone tell me why in hell Felipe is batting Lance Neikro third? It's embarassing. Snow might have had that liner Valentin just hit and he can't look as bad at the plate as Niekro does.
2005-04-13 20:36:35
108.   Dr Love

He didn't say much about Ellison, but on Bradley's IF single he talked about how he was brought in to help shore up a shaky defense.

2005-04-13 20:39:22
109.   Dr Love
Rob Nen is at the game. If he suited up right now he might be one of the better arms in the Giants bullpen.
2005-04-13 20:44:18
110.   Steve
Perez just wasted Torcato.
2005-04-13 20:46:32
111.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
65 pitches through 6 innings.
2005-04-13 20:47:49
112.   In Enemy Country
This is the feeble Giant offense that we all know and love.
2005-04-13 20:47:57
113.   Rainman
Is it just me, or does Karros sound like he's forcing it a little?
2005-04-13 20:49:08
114.   everett
shows how much i've been able to actually tune into games this young season, but when did bradley earn the CF spot over JD Drew?


2005-04-13 20:49:47
115.   Steve
Felipe Alou went to the Willie Randolph School of Lineup Management
2005-04-13 21:03:01
116.   Steve
Why isn't the guy who is hitting .500 batting third? Just an observation.
2005-04-13 21:03:23
117.   Jason Watts
Can I be Steven Tyler from Aerosmith?

Oh wait, you said, Cheers..

Anyway - anyone notice the diamond on has not be redrawn to include the new infield seats?

2005-04-13 21:06:17
118.   Bob Timmermann
Bradley "earned" the center field job early in spring training when he and Drew agreed to split up the job if Drew's knees were bothering him.

Oooh, will we get a chance for Ghame Over eventually?

Look, Duaner finally gets a K and can't get an out!

2005-04-13 21:07:00
119.   Mark
Drew with the arm. Nice.
2005-04-13 21:07:33
120.   Vishal
nice throw by drew to save a run.
2005-04-13 21:08:06
121.   Steve
In comes Wunsch!
2005-04-13 21:08:58
122.   dzzrtRatt
That must make J.D. feel good. Grissom doesn't want to test his arm. What did Morgan say about that?
2005-04-13 21:11:23
123.   Jon Weisman
Steve, you were supposed to say, "Wunschtime!"

His first two pitches to Tucker were awesome.

2005-04-13 21:11:24
124.   Mark
Is Vin contractually obligated to comment on "throwing it around the corner" every time Wunsch comes in?
2005-04-13 21:11:42
125.   Jon Weisman
And his fourth was good enough for a K.
2005-04-13 21:12:57
126.   Steve
Wunsch Eats Tucker's Lunch!
2005-04-13 21:14:12
127.   In Enemy Country
Agreed, this ump has been inconsistent for both sides.
2005-04-13 21:14:56
128.   Bob Timmermann
Michael Tucker even when he does well is one of those people who always looks unhappy.
2005-04-13 21:16:31
129.   In Enemy Country
We need more runs!! It's freaking Tyler Walker!!!
2005-04-13 21:19:56
130.   everett
bob, thanks for the answer about JD and bradley.
2005-04-13 21:20:39
131.   In Enemy Country
Unhappy, or about to cry?
2005-04-13 21:21:20
132.   Steve
Alex Cora would have hit that ball into space, orbited the moon twice, and created a gravitational pull sufficient to get the Apollo 13 Astronauts home without the need for more battery power.
2005-04-13 21:22:42
133.   Steve
That was a horrendous first ball strike call on Bradley.
2005-04-13 21:24:29
134.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh baseball,
One day Bradley is the hero against one of the better relievers in baseball who goes up throwing BBs and tonight he Ks against a washed up lefty who throws slop.

Fassero's temples are grayer than mine. Which is good since he's three years older than me.

2005-04-13 21:28:05
135.   Bob Timmermann
I would have thought Nakamura could have handled Fassero since he throws like a lot of Japanese pitchers.

Left-handed and mediocre.

2005-04-13 21:29:35
136.   The Saul
We could've used some more runs there.
-Captain Obvious
2005-04-13 21:29:38
137.   Steve
The Fox speed gun claimed that last pitch was 89 unless my glasses are smeary -- which may be. Maybe it said 98.
2005-04-13 21:31:35
138.   alnyden
Anyone notice that David Ross is 5 for 15 at Pittsburgh, with 2 doubles and a home run?

See, we let all the great ones get away...

2005-04-13 21:32:05
139.   Aug C
This just in... our manager has officially changed his name to Jim LaRussa.
2005-04-13 21:32:57
140.   Steve
A Schmoll New World?
2005-04-13 21:33:58
141.   Mark
This is why I love the National League. You never see these kinds of chess matches in the AL, just stupid slugfests.
2005-04-13 21:35:26
142.   Bob Timmermann
I think the chess matches are highly overrated. I'm not necessarily in favor of the DH, but numerous pitching changes and pinch hitters don't necessarily make the game any better or worse in my opinion.
2005-04-13 21:38:48
143.   Steve
I would have rather had Alfonso up there if I was the Giants. Just saying.

Jerry will be ticked that he missed a Schmoll sighting. He loves that guy.

2005-04-13 21:39:05
144.   Eric L
Tony LaRussa knows to make the game worse with numerous pitching changes..
2005-04-13 21:39:26
145.   Mark
There's no question that the pitching changes slow the game down, but I dunno, it seems like there are more overall decisions to be made by the manager than in the AL. Also, with all the double switches etc, it seems like you get to see a lot more players that would normally ride the bench the entire year in the AL. (Jason Grabowski? Nori?)
2005-04-13 21:41:22
146.   Mark
How's this for a policy: If you hit a beachball up into the air, you get ejected.
2005-04-13 21:41:41
147.   Nolan
I hope Plaschke saw that play by Valentin...He looked great on the final out of the Giants' 8th...
2005-04-13 21:41:49
148.   Eric L
I think it all depends on the manager Mark. Some guys in the AL seem to like the defensive replacement thing towards the latter innings.

Joe Torre seems to like the late inning replacement strategy (it could come from his NL pedigree).

2005-04-13 21:43:08
149.   Bob Timmermann
Joe Torre likes the late inning defensive replacement because he has old outfielders and guys like Jason Giambi playing first. It's a necessity.
2005-04-13 21:44:49
150.   Steve
Nolan, Nakamura came in to replace Valentin. That was him you saw.
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2005-04-13 21:45:29
151.   Bob Timmermann
Wow, those were some bad swings the Dodgers had against two of the worst relievers in the NL in Fassero and Herges.
2005-04-13 21:46:23
152.   Vishal
is it just me, or is that new commercial about the television fans stealing signs for the dodgers realy cute and clever?
2005-04-13 21:46:59
153.   Aug C
Hey I'm not saying I like AL ball better, but summoning your lefty if the next hitter is a lefty has nothing to do with the pitcher having to bat, and it can hardly be called a "chess move." More like an involuntary reflex - maybe "Chess for Plaschkes?" But Mark, I'm with you on the involvement of more strategy in the NL.
2005-04-13 21:49:34
154.   Bob Timmermann
2005-04-13 21:50:34
155.   Aug C
Bring on our real NL West competition.
2005-04-13 21:50:41
156.   DL04
I think there used to be more of a difference between AL-style and NL-style ball prior to the 1980s, but free agency and interleague play have blurred the lines between the two leagues. There are plenty of hit-and-run plays in the AL, and there are plenty of station-to-station teams in the NL, etc.

The DH rule is really the only difference between the leagues now.

2005-04-13 21:50:52
157.   Steve
6-2 and we haven't even played Colorado yet.
2005-04-13 21:51:07
158.   Ben P
So we can win slugfests and we can win nice, low-scoring games too. Tonight was decent but I think it's a little early to say the Odalis run-support curse has been lifted.
2005-04-13 21:51:35
159.   Jerry
What did I miss? Love the "Ghame Over."
2005-04-13 21:51:42
160.   Jim Hitchcock
Boy, that just seemed to easy.

Just for the heck of, I went and paid a visit to McCovey Chronicles. They requested that I stop being so polite and affable.

2005-04-13 21:52:05
161.   Jerry
Colorado looks like it may be the worst team ever. It must be if it got swept by this lousy Giants team.
2005-04-13 21:52:19
162.   The Saul
Damn that was a fast 9th.
I go to the fridge, come back, and the game is done.
2005-04-13 21:56:35
163.   DL04 has the Dodgers at the top of their baseball rankings.

2005-04-13 22:01:43
164.   Nolan
Steve - You're right. Well, he made a heck of a nice play.
2005-04-13 22:05:19
165.   Steve
He looks very fluid in the field. He looks like he's having spasms at the plate.

Jim, I just trekked over to McCovey Chronicles to see what havoc you wreaked. I think you took killing them with kindness to a whole new level. Bravo!

2005-04-13 22:05:35
166.   In Enemy Country
Colorado might be really bad, but the Giants used their monthly allotment of bloopers in that series.

I really liked what I saw from Drew tonight. The defense was good and it seems like the word is out on his arm. At the plate he looked way more comfortable, I think those late hits in that last Arizona game woke him up. That 0-24 was aberrant.

2005-04-13 22:15:48
167.   Bob Timmermann
Oh well, off day tomorrow and then time for a battle royal with the Padres.

Williams vs. Lowe. An interesting contrast. Wiliams should give up lots of fly balls and Lowe should give up lots of grounders.

Which means that the exact opposite will happen.

2005-04-13 22:38:06
168.   everett
re: CNNSI power rankings... don't know how much it's worth... you've got arizona ranked 10 spots higher than the red socks and the yankees
2005-04-13 23:06:49
169.   GoBears
Hi all. Just noticed that ESPN power rankings have the Dodgers 3rd. These might be (probably are) from before tonight's game. But the interesting part of this is that the Dodgers are 3rd, up from 18th last week. Isn't moving a team 15 spots in one week either (1) an admission that you were dead wrong, or (2) further evidence that a week's worth of games don't tell us anything? Actually, it's both.

What I'm really looking forward to is the articles halfway, or most of the way thru the season, when the Dodgers are still in first place, arguing that they've just been lucky and that anything can happen in a single season, but that the team is still fatally flawed. OK, so teeny-tiny samples are OK (we can declare them dead after 1 game), but medium-sized samples (100+ games) are meaningless. Right? Right? Bueller? Anybody?

2005-04-13 23:23:18
170.   Linkmeister
The guys at McCovey Chronicles were relatively polite in return, too. You don't suppose (Gasp!) they're people like us?
2005-04-13 23:29:01
171.   Steve
Plaschke made up his mind in January. Eight games is a veritable Nobel-Prize winning controlled experiment compared to that.

Linkmeister, they're Giants fans. They go to Gary's Old Town Tavern. They drink imported beer in bottles.

2005-04-13 23:36:19
172.   Jim Hitchcock
Yeah, they were pretty cool about me visiting. Didn't really see a need to beat up on them (just showing up was enough :)). They're sounding pretty discouraged over there...and boy, they're tough on their team.
2005-04-13 23:51:11
173.   Linkmeister
I noticed that the Giants site is part of a group called Sportsblogs which Kos of DailyKos is helping to put together. There's a whole list of the team blogs here, along with a link to a good story in Wired about the concept.

2005-04-14 01:41:43
174.   al bundy
Not interested in Cheers. I've got my own sitcom to do. ;)

Cheers "fact" of the day: It's on tv in London at least 4 times a day, maybe more. Just like in the US.

2005-04-14 07:47:08
175.   Sam DC
"I've got my own sitcom to do."

man is that funny, and the best part is you've been setting it up all season.

2005-04-14 08:31:18
176.   Colorado Blue
"Joe and folks on ESPN2 just spent 5 plus minutes bashing The Trade. Over and over again. And then some more. And virtually no discussion of, you know, the notional arguments in support of the trade, except for a toss off line about how the Dodgers did need to get a number 1 starter -- but that didn't work out -- and why didn't they get the Big Unit anyways? Sigh."

I was gonna wait the extra day to order MLBEI, but since I knew the game was on ESPN2 and I would get exactly what was described above I signed up yesterday. Got to listen to Vin instead... 'nough said!

BTW: Vin mentioned that no only did Penny pitch well, his velocity increased each inning. I wonder how is arm is feeling today?

2005-04-14 08:49:25
177.   Woody
It did my heart good to see Choi break through a bit last night. I can't help, but root for the kid.
2005-04-14 08:50:16
178.   Woody
Hey, can I play Woody?

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