I don't think it's that unusual for injuries to heal in dissappointing fashion, despite the best medical care. My father has been plagued with nerve problems in his back for a long time now, and I don't think it's the doctors' fault.

I also think (and have said this before) that the Dodgers always tend to put as positive spin as they can on injuries when they happen, trying to forestall panic but leading often to disappointment.

That would be my defense of the team medical staff. Beyond that, I have the very same questions as you.

Not only did Valentin have a couple of big home runs in the 12-2 start, including a huge, pinch-hit homer in Arizona in the 9th, but we actually saw him blow-out his knee sliding into home(?) at the Ravine.

Mueller was pretty solid, but had no defining moment. We kinda just heard about his knee, saw him go out, but never saw the POP (both the bat and the knee) like with Valentin during the infamous, wonderful 12 and 2.

Is there any way that clubs insure against player injuries? I've never really thought about it, but if there is, you would think that at some point the Insurer would notice that there was an abberation with certain teams and their injury rates. Somebody email Lloyds of London.

I was never crazy about the second year of Mueller, and less crazy about it now. If you're not ready to hand the position over to the kids in '07 when will you be? Of course, compared to the second year of Tomko, 2 years of Mueller looks pretty brilliant.

11 - Valentin, rather.

I plead guilty to the hope that Tomko's 2-half last year actually meant something. But I'm not sure that's as excusable as gambling on Mueller.

Now, when I say Midas, I am joking around. When you say Midas, I think you are actually being serious.

I know that doesn't explain Gagne, Dreifort, et al, but in the instance of these two guys it's safe to say older players are usually a crap shoot. One I might add in which you usually get less shooting and more...well, not shooting.

The fact that, post 04, Valentin has been better than Beltre, even with the injury, is a mere awkward fact.

The one who was a teammate of Ron Cey and Davey Lopes? I guess he can be a link to the great Dodgers teams of the 1970s!

One of Moyer's teammates, Ed Lynch, has already been hired AND fired as a GM.

He also played with Leon Durham, Chris Speier, Dennis Eckersley, Dick Ruthven, Ron Davis, and Gary Matthews SENIOR.

of all his moves, how many have been gold so far? I can only think of 3 right now- saito, ethier, and nomar. Maybe sele, but i'm expecting sele to come crashing down pretty soon.

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Just trying to plug your blog, Bob.

Team medical reports always have to viewed with a bit a skeptism because of competition issues.

For instance for years, the NBA had this kind of DL that was often used as just a rest period, e.g. Shaq's vacation. Last year, the NBA adopted the policy to allow teams to declare players active or inactive for even just for one game.

The NFL has a rule that require teams to put out an injury list teh Thursday before the game but teams are now being less and less upfront about them. Last year the New England coach listed 15 players as probable (75% that they would play) but that list included 2 players who did not even travel with the team.

I think the one thing that could change injury reporting is how the insurance policies that teams get on long term contracts have the term injury defined, I know there is a dispute with the Bagwell and recently Paul Shuey policy where the carriers are questioning how injured the players really were.

This response doesn't really address whether or not it was a good risk to sign a player or not, there are numerous examples of players who never had injury concerns before being signed and then had problems afterward and I know there were some concerns about potential signees like Vlad Guerrero who may have had some blips but otherwise have been very productive.

Anyways thats my two cents.

Silver - Baez. Tomko.

I'm not sure he needed to stay in L.A. so much as he needs Jeff Gillooly to whack him in the ankle every spring.

This is a PG website. We'll have none of that language here, mister.

27 Yeah, maybe we need to send some bottled smog up to Seattle.

I think on the fame scale, Joe Beimel vs. Steve Schmoll is a tossup.

What's funny about the rotation is that Ned added three pitchers: Tomko, Seo and Sele. Sele has been the best, while Tomko and Seo are about 50-50 as to whether they'll outperform D.J. Houlton.

Free baseball in SD. Brady Clark tied it w/a 2 out bottom ninth single.

Where's it going to come from? Where should it come from? What makes me most nervous now is that Colletti's trades are the worst moves he's made. Yet the fact remains, Penny and Lowe are the only starters we might expect better-than-adequate performance from over the course of the season. ("Expect" may be too strong. Hope for.) Which means even treading water--as we have been for the last week or so--could be too much to hope for. So...what're we gonna do about it?

Speaking of the Ms, one of their top draft picks from this week sprained his elbow PICKING UP THE PHONE to receive the news that he had been drafted.

(I couldn't make that up if I tried)

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The two ideas that came to mind for me as cool rewards would be able to stand behind the cage while the Dodgers take batting practice. I know they already have taking batting practice yourself as a reward but I assume that's not with players around. I think it would be cool to watch actual Dodgers hit (maybe not quite as cool if you're watching the group with Ramon Martinez).

The second idea was being able to sit silently in the back of Vin's booth and just listen to him call a couple of innings, be able to meet him quickly between innings, etc.

Anyone else have an idea for a reward they'd like to see? I'm happy to pass them along if I'm right about what the purpose of the group is. Of course, I'll make sure to sing the praises of Logan White and argue for the 5 rookie lineup at least once before Kent comes back no matter what the topic. :)

With Frank Robinson, Bob Boone, and Davey Lopes, all former managers, in the fold, Davey Johnson increases the number of successful major league managers on the team to 1

Meanwhile, Deadspin has news. Depressing news.

I'd even go so far as to let someone TAKE OVER for Monday in the booth as an award.

But even pioneers get old and lose their touch.

Maybe Thomas Boswell visits the site.

What are Tim Hamulack, Lance Carter, and Joe Beimel then? I had never heard of any of those guys. Two of them have been horrible. Erickson made 8 starts. Get over it. Dessens/Houlton have been better #5 starters than Seo has been.

That fact that you put Releasing Choi as a "Gold" move makes me think you're just here to troll. But once again you got a few bites.

62 Frank doesn't understand that outs are valuable and lead the league in sacrifice attempts and intentional walks last year. In terms of game strategy, I'd say he's the worst manager in baseball.

You've never heard of all star Lance Carter!??!?!

Sure, he's living on borrowed time. But he's more than returned full value on the $500,000. Ideally, the Dodgers would have sufficient pitching depth to ask less of him this summer.

On the pitching:

One of these days, the Dodgers need to get back to producing their own pitchers. When's the last homegrown starter who gave them a pretty good season? Billingsley's promising, more so if he could whittle those walks down a bit. One of the great things Sele has done is buy time for Billingsley. Ideally, the Dodgers keep Bills fresh. Maybe skip him a start, or, like Depo advocated to give starters a breather, use him for 1-3 innings of relief on 2-3 of his start days.

Prediction: Gagne is DL'd for good by July, Tomko goes to the bullpen, Bills goes to rotation. And then a trade for another pitcher or two.

At this point, it is what it is. The fact HGH isnt even tested for makes it seem like its still possible to do steroids and not get caught. Olney gave a long diatribe on ESPNNews about this. I'd say most everyone is on some type of supplement, and whether they are classifed as 'perform enhancing' just depends on where you draw the line.

Did you know HGH actually improves eye site? In fact, they havent linked any negative side effects associated with HGH. Its on the banned substances list, but isnt tested for. Draw your own conclusions.

Valentin had a terrible April which hides the fact how hot he really has been since May started. Of course he has looked really bad at 2nd base but I'm only judging that on the Dodger series since I don't watch the Mets on a normal basis. A long time ago I advocated signing Valentin as a FA to replace the punchless Cora and much to my surprise we signed him but to replace Beltre which didn't set well with me. I knew Beltre was not 2004 but I'm shocked at how bad he's become. If Depo gets credit for nothing else he should get credit for not destroying the franchise by caving into the Boras demands and signing Beltre.

You really don't want to get that.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060607

It's a great read for Dodger fans, but Simmons isn't as keen an observer of Los Angeles as he thinks he is. He refers to Dodger Stadium as being on the outskirts of the city (huh?), refers to watching the sunset beyond the centerfield (?) scoreboard, and laughs when Grady belatedly pulls "Braxton" from the game.

I know Jonathan was pitching like Toni that night, but still...

Good post, but I think Depo did infact sign Valentin to replace Cora. Kent was signed to take Beltre's place (although one could agrue for Drew as a Beltre replacement with Kent bumping Green). Anyhow, the positions on the field may have been reversed but not the bats.

With that still slim chance of side effects, I doubt they'd serve as enough of a deterrent to stop pro athletes from using.

The jury is still out on all the rest of his moves. The Seo trade looks like a total bummer for us, and the Baez-Carter trade will either turn out to be a huge loss or a gave-up-nothing-received-nothing stumble, hardly optimal outcomes.

All that aside, some of the biggest factors for the Dodgers' >.500 record this year is rebound performances from Penny, Lowe, and Drew, and the production of the rookies that have been called up, all of which Ned had little or nothing to do with.

Of course they will. Shredded arm or no shredded arm, he's still by far the most popular player on the team.

Athletes didn't (or don't) seem to mind that steroids might make them impotent (supposedly only while is on the juice).

I believe Aybar's pedigree in fact projected him as what we're mostly seeing -- Muellerlike offense, but not the D of the young Mueller D.
I just think many people evaulated Aybar's offense a bit severely, dinged him a bit too hard for the lows slugs at Vegas and underappreciated his approach and the breadth of his skill set. Factoring in age and leage, he showed pretty good approach from age 18 through his strong one month callup at 22. The power was weak last year, but there were respectable signs of it earlier.

Will(y) Aybar crater? Wouldn' be stunning. Teams finally are attacking him with the hard stuff, throwing more strikes. Walks have been tougher to come by, putting a lot of pressure on him to find holes.

His slowdown in recent weeks was probably inevitable. It's encouraging that he's still mixing in some hits. It'll be interesting to see how he adjusts. I was pleased that Little sat him against Glavine. Willy hasn't been comfortable against lefties. Nice bit of managing by Little, and I think a mental breather was probably in order.
The defensive shuttling probably should be taken into account. He's not a natural 2B yet held his own there with Kent out.

ONLY 22? That's a very high number (3 in 1000) for something that serious. Those are odds I don't think anyone would knowingly take. I'd like to think that they are still not deriving HGH from cadavers, but who knows?

I don't think the players would care about the after-effects. I just wanted to point out what sort of side effects there could be. I've been told that the HGH that is used now is much better, but I'd rather just stick with what nature gave me.

Apparently, my pituarity gland was chockful of HGH goodness!

In the case of not trading prospects, credit should go to the person who got the prospects in the first place.

No one ever gets too excited about someone who justs produces consistently, but unspectatularly. It's not interesting.

Only if you go to a place where they teach creationism.

I do agree that Logan White should get credit for getting the prospects, but if a crappy GM trades them away for crappy talent, it doesn't matter.

I just can't think of many other professions where you deserve credit for not being a buffoon.
Most, if not all, work situations would be far improved through the successful avoidance of buffoonery.

Off to Google people!

For example Aybar would not hit safely in 24 out of 27 games cause it would have taken him 68 games to play in 27. Ramon Martinez would be leading off and Alomar would have triple the amount of starts as he does now, many of them at first base.

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I don't think Frank Robinson is one of the worst managers. Certainly, Buddy Bell, Mike Hargrove, Jim Tracy, Felipe Alou (a Tracy clone) and Dusty Baker are worse. I'm sure there are a few others. Frank Robinson is a mediocre manager, but he also has mediocre talent and the worst GM in baseball running the team.

And who hired Grady?

Has to be judged case by case.

I was all for trading EJ, but the Dodgers waited too long. He'd been shopped well before Ned dealt him, but interest was low.

The Marlins won the 2003 WS in no small part because they traded prospects during the season. It took steel gonads to do it, because the odds were against even getting to the playoffs. But they ended up looking very smart for doing it.

You can leverage a lot of value out of trading a prospect who isn't as good as his externally perceived valued. That's why the Red Sox were so happy to have de facto PR man Gammons tout their prospects for all those years. The great Tony Armas Jrs of the world helped them get Pedro Martinez, et al.

The team that trades its prospect has the built in advantage of knowing him better than other clubs. Or at least that's how it should work.

It's incredibly early but appears the Dodgers were right in their evaulations of Martin and Kemp, so that's an encouraging start for Colletti. If a franchise can't evaulate its own kids, it's in big trouble.

Makes sense, though. Heck, I guess my family always pronounced our last name a little differently than they do it in the old country, too.

I remember reading that Jackson might've been the reason the Dodgers didn't get Randy Johnson (well, and he didn't want to be a Dodger). Wonder if DePo regrets that one, if it's true. Would've been nice to have RJ (v2004) start twice against the Cards and not OP.

I guess a better way to say the same thing is that this year it seems our GM and Manager are on the same page and working together.

No Kenny Lofton update...?

It was a nice story and worth hearing twice. Nicer than hearing any of us talk about Odalis Perez twice.

Did you perchance utter the words "fat tub of goo"...?

It's not business. It's personal.

Shocking.

Would you believe I've never actually seen that film?

It's not you. It's him.

Nor have I seen Chinatown, nor Citizen Kane, nor Jurassic Park, nor Titanic.

But I have seen Godfather 2!

Never seen Chinatown or Jurassic Park

Citizen Kane and Titanic are both on my Most Overrated of All Time list.

I wish I could say I haven't seen E.T. as well, but I have, in the theater, when the FBI still carried guns and one of the kids was a terrorist for Halloween.

I don't like Ben Affleck movies.

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No unique common thread, just movies I've taken flak for not seeing over the years, be it teachers or moronic coworkers.

I'm shocked, shocked. And not in the Casablanca way.

Unless...Icaros! Are you a space alien?

As for Titanic - ugh. I never heard anyone say that that piece of garbage was a high quality film. It was wildly popular, but pretty widely panned, I believe. Not overrated because everyone knew it was gawdawful.

145 I thought the coolest thing about the DVD release was that if I wanted to, I was still able to see the FBI with guns on one disc and the Lucasized version on another.

146 There are certain movies that my friends razz me about too. I hear the most about Slingblade and Shindler's List. I did read Shindler's List though.

My theory, anyway. "Da Vinci Code" might be another, and in the liberal blogosphere, "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's movie could be a third.

I am an Earthling, but I was once drafted into the Martian army many years ago to wage purposely unsuccessful war against my own people and ultimately help establish The First Church of God the Utterly Indifferent.

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Is the terrorist costume still on the disc with the FBI and guns?

I'll also defend TITANIC -- people hate it because it made a bazillion dollars and won all the awards... but it's a very craftily-made, well-constructed blockbuster. But it was fun to root for it back when it was expected to be a complete bomb and then started raking in the cash week after week.

Now that I've lived in LA for a few years, I should re-visit CHINATOWN.

It served its purpose.

Okay, some baseball stuff, more props to Logan White from Peter Gammons insider blog...
" Some teams raised eyebrows when the Dodgers took Preston Mattingly with the 31st pick. Perhaps not that many teams saw Mattingly, but the Red Sox, for one club, were very disappointed when Logan White and the Dodgers grabbed him; Boston had planned to take him with the 40th pick. "He has a chance to be a monster player; we love him," says one Red Sox official. "I remember Preston in the clubhouse as a kid," says Buck Showalter. "He always had the eyes, that look Donnie has. He was always different from the other kids who'd be around."

hes 6'3 200lbs and from what I've read, what excites scouts about him is his bat and athleticism. If he can stick at shorstop, he could be a monster. As long as he hits, I dont really care about defensive positions right now.

I saw that the day it opened. Don't ask me why.

Are you talking baseball now, or "baseball"?

The other version has a CGI ET in a couple of scenes (ala Yoda in the re-released Star Wars trilogy), the guns are walkie talkies, and the terrorists don't trick or treat anymore.

I saw that too. Maybe its a promotion. Maybe its just a day off.

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Ethier/Orr :)

Historically, that cheer was probably very similar to the one I let out the day LA signed Darryl Strawberry.

Citizen Kane and Chinatown were both highly-touted older movies that I was pretty disappointed with. I know it's hard to appreciate some older movies without having the proper historical perspective though.

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You heard me!

I weep for the two of you. I truly weep. I think I will stop by the cathedral on my lunch hour and light candles for both of you.

Why don't you just go put on a Giants cap and wear a replica Russ Ortiz jersey while you're at it?

I feel like my guts have been torn out, stepped on, run over by a car, and then eaten by a ferret.

She kept screaming at Leo to wash his hair, and cheered when he slipped under. I was (only slightly) mortified.

Casablanca: That was a "first date" movie for my wife and I. I was working for my college's summer programs department, so I took over one of the auditorium halls and we had our own movie theatre.
Chinatown: Second date. Same place, same MO.

Let's play "Guess what is really inside of Gagne's skull."

My guess:

Two scoops of freshly opened, uncooked, Ranch Style Beans.

PS: Is the feeling associated with ferrets eating one's guts distinct from the feeling associated with other animals eating one's guts?

Wow, for some reason that little date description was so cute to me that I actually feel very sad right now.

Would you argue that the song from Titanic is worse than the Whitney Houston song from The Bodyguard?

Just curious.

The only thing Whitney Houston's ever done that I liked was her rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at the Super Bowl during the first Gulf War. That was a spine-tingler, or as we say out here, it was chicken-skin time.

The Bodyguard was Overrated.

I imagine she could have at least talked over the lousy movie.

For the record, I have not seen The Bodyguard either, but I could've buried myself 88 feet underground in 1992 and still would not have been able to avoid hearing that song.

Texas - 038 0
KC - 404 1

The Timmermann Code?

For a different war, try "Gettysburg," which was almost a word-for-word translation from Michael Shaara's "The Killer Angels."

Nope, it's nothing more than a demonstration of the fact that you can't really format numbers well in the comments.

Does your use of second-person POV aim to single me out, personally?

I didn't think Titanic was that great, but it was tolerable. I'm in love with Kate Winslet.

Citizen Kane gets better every time I see it.

ET is unwatchable.

Just breaking the fourth wall.

It was watchable for a 9 year old in 1983, but I'm guessing it hasn't stood the test of time.

My problem with Chinatown is that this smug, boring, annoyingly self-satisfied professor I had used to always use Chinatown as The Bible for our screenwriting class.

It's a case of guilt by association. I'm also lazy and just never think to go out of my way to see it.

Nicely done.

Case in point, Star Wars, Episode 4. Now trust me you kids out there, at its time, it was very cool to see those long panned shots of models with the robots and those goofy creatures in the cantina scene.

But it was the story and the characters that carried that film and its sequels.

Now, I also the last 3 prequels and they also have their charm (Yoda's fight with the Emperor in the last one was great), all the new graphics and effects could not make up for some problems with the story, although it must be hard when everyone knows where you are going, I think it could have been done in 2 films but since the original had 3, so be it.

The last 3 movies were all about effects, with horrendous dialogue. I have already forgotten them.

214 - (sniffle)

225 - those goofy creatures in the cantina scene
My life was forever altered when I, a 6-year-old, was escorted into the Mos Eisley cantina for the first time.

One of the few programs that stand up to this day is "I Love Lucy." Such a classic show with its simple plots but great performances entertains kids who are seeing for the first time and folks like me who have seen every episode too many times to count.

And to me, the most interesting thing is how would you introduce to someone who has never seen any of the films, if they watch the prequels, then they know that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker which will spoil the bit when Luke meets "Ben" Kenobi, etc., etc., and how climatic will the scene in the Empire Strikes Back when Darth Vader tells Luke he is their father.

And if you watch the original 3, what's the point of the first 3.

There's a sentiment I can get behind!

My intestines feel better now.

I liked ET as a teen-ager, I liked ET as an adult, and I liked ET as a middle-aged man. I figure by the time I don't like ET it will mean I've turned into an old curmudgeon. I've had a crush on Drew Barrymore ever since she flashed David Letterman on his birthday.

The best thing about that trade is that it doesn't matter what Soriano does, it was still dumb. The Nationals have no hope of contending no matter what he does, so all Alfonso adds is a payroll burden, and gets rid of a couple of guys who could help them in later years. Given how much they hate Ryan Church, how badly do the Nats want Termel Sledge right about now.

As to the game, the Suns were down 7-0 and then scored 10 unanswered runs to win 10-7, Tony Abreu hit a home run.

The manager also noted that there was a chance of roster moves, guys going up or down but they will focus on their chance to defend their league title.

"Fred C. Dobbs never says nothin he don't mean"

Riles can't complain, they fouled Ben Wallace repeatedly during that series in the 4th quarter.

Used to greater effect in a classic Bugs Bunny cartoon featuring a penquin.

The new trilogy is essentially Darth Vader's (or Anakin's) story.

Hopefully Patterson will come back healed and deal.

For those that might be interested, the link above is some photos that I took with my disposable camera on June 5th.

It was quite a surreal experience. I was on the field about an hour before game time, chatting with none other than Larry King of all people. I see Jeff Boras talking on his phone, and sitting behind him is "Dumb and Dumber" star Jeff Daniels.

Precisely at 7:00 PM, I am introduced onto the field as a special guest from Waddell & Reed and Los Altos High School. I had planned on going through this big routine of taking off my glove and walking around the mound -- things that I used to do when I was a relief pitcher at Claremont McKenna not too long ago. Instead, I'm on the rubber and it sinks in that I'm on the mound at Dodger Stadium. So I don't shake the catcher (my older brother) off nor do I engage in any pre-first rituals that I had planned.

I go from the stretch, but consciously in an Eric Gagne-like half-stretch, half-windup. I take a big leg kick, and I fire the pitch. The ball tails a bit and goes low and inside (to a righty). My brother half-trots to the mind and shakes my hand and we are whisked off next to the Dodger dugout, and the National Anthem is played. We then go right past the Dodger dugout. In a jovial manner, Eddie Murray acknowledges my group (partly because my brother already knew him during his internship with the Padres as Dave Winfield's intern ), and I say what's up to Odalis Perez as he's leaning on the rail of the dugout. Somewhat in a daze, Odalis acknowledges my greeting.

We're escorted to the club section. I sit down, and about 1 minute later after a Jose Reyes and Carlos Delgado bomba, the Dodgers are down 3-0 and I think to half-jokingly think to myself, "Man, I could do better than that."

It doesn't quite end there. After the game, one of my friends who was with me on the field said that one of the Dodger employees that works the gun (his name's Tom) approached him and asked if he was the one that caught the first pitch. My friend (Steve) said no. Tom informs him that I was clocked at 82 mph and that that was the hardest that he's seen from a first pitch in the 5 years that he's been there.

The whole experience was somewhat short, surreal, and sweet.

Can't wait to get the DVD that the Dodgers said they'd provide so that I can see what actually happened.

Which is very heavily influenced by John Pullen's "The 20th Maine".

Top of the 9th:

12 17 2
16 18 2

Then I fell over after the pitch.

My nephew enjoyed watching that.

JOSE VALENTIN LOST A BALL IN THE CHALK.

That is absolutely horrible, and I'm so glad we got rid of him.

So ... if the DBacks lose tomorrow and the Dodgers win, we will have the famed ...

flat-footed tie for first.

Did you mean Scott Boras, or is there a Jeff Boras?

Body Guard may be one of the five worst movies ever made. The theme song is worse than Titanic, especially the version where Jack and Rose are talking in the background. And yes Celin Dion and her goofy accent should have the same place on DT as swearing and politics.

Titanic was really good for it realism. I though James Cameron did a masterful job of really making you feel what it would have been like to be on the boat, no matter what class of passenger you would have been. The love story not so good, but as Ratt pointed out it was a the vehicle.

Another of my Top 5 Favorite list would be Jaws. The scene where Robert Shaw and Dreyfuss are comparing wounds is one of the great scenes of all time. It was even funny when Kevin Smith recreated it in Chasing Amy, another one of my favorites (in spite of Ben Afflick).

As for Bogart movies I like To Have and Have Not. Maybe it has more to do with Lauren Bacall as 'Slim'. She was so sexy in that movie.

[Slim kisses Steve]
Steve: What did you do that for?
Slim: I've been wondering if I'd like it.
Steve: What's the decision?
Slim: I don't know yet.
[They kiss again]
Slim: It's even better when you help.

How come they can't make movies like that anymore?

Vote for Bay, Castillo, and Jack.
And Sanchez, he's surely no hack.
Don't make them lose face-y,
Just because Jim Tracy,
is hopelessly addicted to crack.

It would be hard to do it justice unless I was able to use props.

[Slim kisses Steve]
Steve: What did you do that for?
Slim: I've been wondering if I'd like it.
Steve: What's the decision?
Slim: I don't know yet.
[They kiss again]
Slim: It's even better when you help.

How come they can't make movies like that anymore?
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Because Hollywood is run by a bunch of 20 and 30 something marketing executives who are targeting the pre-teen and teen market.
And who today is able to portray the smouldering sex appeal of Lauren Bacall, not to mention the cool and aloof manner of Humphrey Bogart? The lighting and Black and White look of that film really enhance Bacall's features and today's audience probably would not appreciate such artistry.