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On the Last Trip to Cincinnati ...
2006-08-01 15:21
by Jon Weisman

May 6, 2005, courtesy of Retrosheet:

DODGERS 1ST: Izturis was hit by a pitch; Choi homered [Izturis scored]; Drew singled to center; Kent homered [Drew scored]; Bradley walked; Saenz was hit by a pitch [Bradley to second]; Ledee doubled to center [Bradley scored, Saenz scored, Ledee to third (on throw)]; Phillips doubled to right [Ledee scored]; BELISLE REPLACED WILSON (PITCHING); Penny out on a sacrifice bunt (first unassisted) [Phillips to third]; Izturis grounded out (second to first); Choi walked; Drew walked [Choi to second]; Kent doubled to center [Phillips scored, Choi scored, Drew scored, Kent to third (error by Griffey)]; Bradley was called out on strikes; 10 R, 6 H, 1 E, 1 LOB. Dodgers 10, Reds 0.

Here's a link to the Dodger Thoughts game chat that night. What a happy crew ...

* * *

Jose Cruz, Jr. bids farewell to the Dodgers by being designated for assignment. The Dodgers have until August 10, the anniversary of his Dodger debut, to trade or release him.

Cruz OPSed 1.004 last September. That didn't hold up this year, not surprisingly, though he did have a .942 OPS in 80 plate appearances against lefties this season.

* * *

Tonight's Game

Comments (452)
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2006-08-01 15:28:23
1.   LetsGoDodgers
I hope Lugo has a better kick-off to his Dodger career than Valentin had in SF.
2006-08-01 15:31:10
2.   Bob Timmermann
They might as well left their gloves at home.
2006-08-01 15:34:18
3.   Steve
Oliver Perez and Aubrey Huff for Hank Blalock and Rich Harden.

That's still a good trade.

2006-08-01 15:35:06
4.   Jon Weisman
Regfairfield, can you send me an e-mail?
2006-08-01 15:35:35
5.   gpellamjr
Unfortunately, I won't be able to join you all for game chat tonight. I'll be in my living room watching the game on TV. Oh, the life of a displaced Dodgers fan. I will be sorely missed.
2006-08-01 15:37:04
6.   Bob Timmermann
Let's all use bad grammar tonight!
2006-08-01 15:37:56
7.   D4P
I'll be in my living room watching the game on TV

Four words: laptop and wireless connection.

2006-08-01 15:37:59
8.   overkill94
Wow, I have 5 of today's 9 starting players for the Dodgers on my NL-only fantasy team (Lofton, Betemit, Loney, Martin, and Sele).
2006-08-01 15:38:42
9.   regfairfield
4 Sure.
2006-08-01 15:39:49
10.   Bob Timmermann
regairfield can you send me an e-mail because I'm feeling somewhat lonely?
2006-08-01 15:40:32
11.   D4P
What am I, chopped liver...?
2006-08-01 15:41:51
12.   Jon Weisman
11 - Yes, you're killing my cholesterol.
2006-08-01 15:42:13
13.   regfairfield
9 Sorry, all E-mailed out.
2006-08-01 15:43:37
14.   Daniel Zappala
Please don't send me email, I get too much. I have 528 unread messages out of 1186. None are spam. Sure, most of them are unimportant, since they are unread, but still...
2006-08-01 15:44:25
15.   gpellamjr
7 Geez, you just can't take a hint. I need a night away from you, okay?
2006-08-01 15:45:14
16.   D4P
I read an article recently about the challenge that email has presented to those in academia, who are suddenly "reachable" to their students 24/7.
2006-08-01 15:48:02
17.   Bob Timmermann
I spoke to a class of UCLA Extension students and gave them my business card.

Only one of them e-mailed me. They seem to prefer calling me up.

Very odd.

2006-08-01 15:49:31
18.   Daniel Zappala
16 Definitely an issue, but overload for me comes from a lot of little things that add up, not just one factor by itself. With email being so prevalent now, there is just more communication now than there used to be. The reason so many are unread is I have to disconnect and get work done.
2006-08-01 15:52:58
19.   D4P
Maybe they like your voice...
2006-08-01 15:54:42
20.   Bob Timmermann
I have that soothing voice that makes people forget their troubles.
2006-08-01 15:55:54
21.   Humma Kavula
20 You're not Bob Timmermann... you're Bob Edwards!
2006-08-01 15:56:21
22.   Steve
Can you sing One More For The Road please? I could use it.
2006-08-01 15:57:21
23.   Bob Timmermann
I'm not Bob Edwards, but one of my brothers is going to be made a Kentucky Colonel soon!
2006-08-01 15:58:40
24.   Daniel Zappala
I was thinking more along the lines of Garrison Keillor.
2006-08-01 16:00:43
25.   Jon Weisman
23 - Like Dan Issel?
2006-08-01 16:01:40
26.   Sam DC
Yeah, but that Reds team didn't have Royce Clayton at short.
2006-08-01 16:02:13
27.   Steve
John Charles Daly.
2006-08-01 16:02:43
28.   D4P
Or Dave Ross at catcher...
2006-08-01 16:03:18
29.   thinkblue0
Lugo hitting third tonight...wish I knew why Lofton was playing thought.
2006-08-01 16:04:09
30.   Prescott Pete
There are more Kentucky Colonels than people that watched the World Cup -- worldwide.
2006-08-01 16:05:18
31.   thinkblue0


2006-08-01 16:07:26
32.   Andrew Shimmin
There was never a more soothing voice than Bob Ross's. His paintings were ugly, but I loved that show.
2006-08-01 16:08:25
33.   Bluebleeder87
7 Four words: laptop and wireless connection.

or just put you're computer/desk next to the tube.

2006-08-01 16:08:50
34.   trainwreck
Bob Ross made you really believe you could paint those happy little trees and mountains just like him.
2006-08-01 16:08:52
35.   ssjames
Lofton is playing, because Arroyo is awful against Lefties all season, and Lofton is a lefty.
2006-08-01 16:09:19
36.   Bluebleeder87
6 Let's all use bad grammar tonight!

I'll feel right at home.

2006-08-01 16:10:44
37.   trainwreck
We may have the fastest top of the order of any team. I guess that is a positive.
2006-08-01 16:11:15
38.   scooplew
Eight of the players In the Dodgers' starting line-up today are in their first year with the club. Of those eight, six -- Lugo, Ethier, Betemit, Martin, Loney and Sele -- were not with them on Opening Day. The two others are Furcal and Lofton. Only J.D. Drew was with the club prior to this season.
2006-08-01 16:11:25
39.   D4P
We may have the fastest top of the order of any team

You mean like, three up three down...?

2006-08-01 16:11:55
40.   Jacob L
Game time!
2006-08-01 16:12:37
41.   Jacob L
38 And Lofton was hurt on Opening Day.
2006-08-01 16:14:07
42.   overkill94
We saw what trading for Betemit (before he even joined the team no less) did for the offense, lord knows how many runs we'll score tonight with two new faces in there.
2006-08-01 16:14:30
43.   SCRocks
two up, two singles!


2006-08-01 16:14:51
44.   King of the Hobos
Lugo did not have much of a Dodger debut.
2006-08-01 16:15:37
45.   Steve
What a thrill.
2006-08-01 16:16:54
46.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
May 6, 2005, courtesy of Retrosheet:
That was a fun game.
2006-08-01 16:18:00
47.   Bluebleeder87
Wow, the natives are getting ressless in Cincy.
2006-08-01 16:18:51
48.   thinkblue0
that at bat by Eithier might be the worst AB I've seen all year.
2006-08-01 16:19:25
49.   Bluebleeder87
I don't blame Either for strking out with the bases loaded & one out.
2006-08-01 16:19:27
50.   Rob M
was that ethier AB as bad on TV as it was on gameday?
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2006-08-01 16:20:36
51.   micktissue
I was thinking of paying to watch on (we killed our tv quite a while ago) but when I remembered Charlie was on the TV side (I can manage with Rick better when Ruess is with him) and when I saw Lugo strike out in his first at bat, I recalled the short version of the serenity prayer: F%!$ IT!
2006-08-01 16:20:40
52.   overkill94
That inning was very disappointing
2006-08-01 16:20:51
53.   thinkblue0

I hope that was sarcasm.

2006-08-01 16:21:49
54.   overkill94
The fact that we've never faced Arroyo really showed that inning.

At least I don't think we have

2006-08-01 16:22:47
55.   thinkblue0
something tells me Dunn is going to hit the ball about 6 miles off Sele
2006-08-01 16:22:53
56.   Jacob L
51 I gotta disagree. Steiner is o.k. as a partner to Monday, but Ruess is a Monday enabler.
2006-08-01 16:23:30
57.   Gen3Blue
This pitcher looks like a typical slightly above average starter, not bad. So it will be a good test for our guys.
Whoa-you have a chance to get to a guy like this in the first and don't. He's a vet right hander who gets <1hit an inning and twice as many strikeouts as walks. We may have said goodnight.
2006-08-01 16:23:32
58.   trainwreck
Arroyo is backwards because he doesn't trust his fastball for some reason. He throws far too many off-speed pitches and if a team is patient they can crush him.
2006-08-01 16:23:40
59.   Bluebleeder87
53 It kind of was
2006-08-01 16:24:07
60.   DodgerJoe
54 it didn't really affect Furcal or Lofton.

3 unproductive outs....not a good start. Ethier and Lugo didn't even need to get hits, just move the runners.

2006-08-01 16:24:19
61.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know about you, but I think Steiner looks better with a stash (just an observation)
2006-08-01 16:25:22
62.   Jacob L
54 What do you mean by "we"? The Dodgers? As Lew described in 38, the majority of this team doesn't go back as far as April. In that sense "we" haven't faced anybody before.
2006-08-01 16:25:47
63.   thinkblue0

Gotta thing for that fella?

2006-08-01 16:27:15
64.   Bluebleeder87

nah I'm just use too him with a stash, even in his ESPN days.

2006-08-01 16:27:22
65.   StolenMonkey86
David Ross is in the lineup with an OPS over 1.000
2006-08-01 16:28:07
66.   Bluebleeder87
Nice little inning by Sele
2006-08-01 16:28:16
67.   micktissue
56 - There's something about Charlie that rubs me every way but right. I get what you mean about Ruess, but somehow I can listen to them without getting the shpilkes, unlike when I hear, or worse, see Steiner.
2006-08-01 16:28:33
68.   Gen3Blue
54 I think the three guys who made consecutive outs were three "rookies" to the D's in a row.
2006-08-01 16:30:44
69.   Bluebleeder87
I'm glad Davis Ross is having a nice little season.
2006-08-01 16:32:09
70.   micktissue
Is there an faq link for how to code on these pages? I know . is bold, but what is link, em, etc.?


2006-08-01 16:32:26
71.   StolenMonkey86
31 HR and 81 RBI in 552 AB career

Not bad

2006-08-01 16:32:31
72.   Jacob L
56 Steiner is not everyone's cup of tea, and I get that, but I can't listen to him without getting regular score and count updates, descriptions of what's happening on the field, and stories that, at the very least, have a beginning, middle and end.

The same can not be said of Monday and Ruess.

And I think he looks less bad with the mustache.

2006-08-01 16:32:43
73.   thinkblue0
nice AB by Loney there.
2006-08-01 16:33:22
74.   StolenMonkey86
You think you're safe throwing out of the strike zone, don't ya! Well take that!
2006-08-01 16:34:39
75.   thinkblue0
it really drives me up the wall that pitchers can't even bunt.

Just let them swing away and hope you get lucky...nothing worse than that...bunting really isn't that difficult.

2006-08-01 16:36:12
76.   BlueCrew Bruin
Doggone it Sele! That's it! I'm jumping on the "use the DH in the NL too" bandwangon!

There is a bandwagon for that right?

2006-08-01 16:36:31
77.   Jacob L
Arroyo's got 5 Ks through 2 ip.
2006-08-01 16:36:52
78.   StolenMonkey86
Cubs have Izzy in the 2-hole, in between Pierre and Barrett
2006-08-01 16:37:31
79.   LetsGoDodgers
5 out of 6 outs are K's. Ugh.
2006-08-01 16:38:24
80.   StolenMonkey86
Furcal swings at a high pitch, but he's no James Loney
2006-08-01 16:39:14
81.   ssjames
When a team has Adam Dunn, Griffey, and catcher OPSing over 1.000, why would the 4-5-6 hitters consist of Aurilia, Hatteburg and Brandon Phillips?
2006-08-01 16:40:10
82.   StolenMonkey86
Odalis Perez's "personal catcher" is in the lineup against him
2006-08-01 16:40:15
83.   Gen3Blue
I mentioned we had to test a good starter tonight. I think I better get out my K totaler because with this lineup we may get quite a total. Although Drew, Loney, Martin and Lofton aren't good strikeout candidates, so we will see.
2006-08-01 16:41:53
84.   Jacob L
Does one actually have to pitch in organized baseball in order to have a personal catcher?
2006-08-01 16:42:04
85.   StolenMonkey86
nice, 3-6-3
2006-08-01 16:42:50
86.   Andrew Shimmin
70- No, there isn't one that I know of. There's no linking, save to other comments, which is done by enclosing the number of the comment you wish to link in brackets, [X]. To underline, surround the word(s) with an underscore (_) on either side. Those plus bold are the only ones I know to exist.
2006-08-01 16:43:45
87.   StolenMonkey86
Did someone punch Brandon Phillips before they took that picture for Gameday?
2006-08-01 16:43:51
88.   Jacob L
81 I'm looking up and down their lineup and wondering how it is that this Reds team doing well, than I remembered that they used to have Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez!
2006-08-01 16:44:36
89.   Bluebleeder87
*Doggone it Sele! That's it! I'm jumping on the "use the DH in the NL too" bandwangon!

There is a bandwagon for that right?*

No! a very firm no! (thank god) :o)

2006-08-01 16:44:56
90.   King of the Hobos
Why did the graphic just show Ross' career vs the Dodgers? It showed 0-0, 0 HR, 0 RBI
2006-08-01 16:44:57
91.   scooplew
62 -- When I was a little kid, and blockbuster trades, particularly involving the Yankees and the K.C. A's, were not uncommon, I used to wonder which team I would root for if all 25 Dodgers were traded for, say, all 25 Reds. It was a difficult question for a child to ponder, and I could never come up with a satisfactory answer. I was just glad it didn't happen. However, looking at the Dodgers' active roster now, which I believe includes only three players who were with them prior to 2005 -- Carrara, Saenz and Penny -- I guess the question has sort of been answered.
2006-08-01 16:45:19
92.   StolenMonkey86
2006-08-01 16:45:34
93.   thinkblue0

I have Dunn on my keeper fantasy I've been wondering that for a couple years now.

2006-08-01 16:45:46
94.   overkill94
81 Because Aurilia has an .855 OPS and Hatteberg is at .921

Must be something in the water over there in Cincy.

2006-08-01 16:45:48
95.   Jacob L
91 So, what was the answer?
2006-08-01 16:46:26
96.   Andrew Shimmin
86 continued- Hard returns screw things up. You need to reapply your asterisks or underscores for each paragraph.
2006-08-01 16:47:00
97.   Steve
Just another failed prospect.
2006-08-01 16:47:25
98.   micktissue
86 - thanks a lot ;-)
2006-08-01 16:48:02
99.   Bluebleeder87
I take that back about wishing Ross the best.
2006-08-01 16:48:07
100.   scooplew
91 -- I still root for the Dodgers, whoever wears their uniform.
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2006-08-01 16:48:17
101.   FirstMohican
2-out double for Ross. Did he ever do that while with the Dodgers?
2006-08-01 16:48:41
102.   ssjames
94 Yeah, but those numbers are serverely inflated by Great American Ballpark, so I totally discount them. None of those players is close to Dunn or Griffey's level imo.
2006-08-01 16:49:00
103.   scooplew
95 -- I still root for the Dodgers, whoever wears their uniform.
2006-08-01 16:49:03
104.   StolenMonkey86
I hope we don't play the Devil Rays in interleague. Like, ever
2006-08-01 16:50:49
105.   King of the Hobos
Elbert has walked 4 and struck out 4 in 3 innings while only allowing one hit. Unfortunately, that hit was a homer, and it came with 2 of those walks on base.
2006-08-01 16:51:04
106.   Jacob L
I kind of hope we don't play anybody in interleague. Like, ever.
2006-08-01 16:53:42
107.   trainwreck
At least Elbert knows what he has to work on.
2006-08-01 16:55:27
108.   thinkblue0
VERY nice piece of hitting by Drew. Too bad it didn't get over the wall.
2006-08-01 16:56:04
109.   overkill94
102 The same Griffey OPSing .785? Plus, wouldn't you want him as far up in the line-up as possible? I'm not seeing your point here.
2006-08-01 16:56:11
110.   scooplew
Beltran just hit a 2-run HR for the Mets. In his last 13 AB, he has 6 hits -- 5 HR and a double -- and has driven in 12 runs.
2006-08-01 16:58:28
111.   StolenMonkey86
110 - a Royals fan somewhere is just sighing with apathy
2006-08-01 16:59:20
112.   overkill94
Horrible tag by Ross on that one, the throw beat him by a long shot but Drew got in right under him.
2006-08-01 16:59:23
113.   StolenMonkey86
2006-08-01 16:59:24
114.   thinkblue0
WOW! Drew sure turned on the after burners there....good throw gets him though.
2006-08-01 16:59:44
115.   overkill94
Ohhhh, he dropped it, I get it now
2006-08-01 17:00:08
116.   Gen3Blue
Ethier and Loney somehow give me a feel of that obscene term class on the field. Nice double play!
You wonder how great Drew would be if he could hit that drive when he came up w/ men on 2nd and 3rd. Then again they prob. gave him nothing to hit.
2006-08-01 17:00:25
117.   thinkblue0

I'm liking this guy more and more.

2006-08-01 17:00:29
118.   overkill94
Oh Mr. Wiiiiiillllllson!
2006-08-01 17:00:49
119.   trainwreck
Betemit making a case not to be benched when Kent returns.
2006-08-01 17:00:58
120.   Steve
Why couldn't we just leave well enough alone?
2006-08-01 17:01:20
121.   BlueCrew Bruin
Sorry, I don't know what came over me.

Maybe I'm just sitting too far away from my computer screen but it looks to me like DL Hughley is playing 3B for us.

2006-08-01 17:01:33
122.   King of the Hobos
Elbert decided that he no longer wants to pitch, and thus doubled to the opposite field. It didn't result in any runs, but he's now batting .375/.375/.500.
2006-08-01 17:01:37
123.   thinkblue0

I think that's a problem a lot of people don't understand...they just expect Drew to do it every time. The opposing pitcher usually isn't dumb enough to give him a lot to hit with men in scoring position and less than two outs. Walk him, take your chances with eithier...

2006-08-01 17:01:40
124.   Gen3Blue
Drew is forgiven and Betemit is moving toward acceptance.
2006-08-01 17:01:48
125.   overkill94
All of this with 2 out, when was the last time that happened?
2006-08-01 17:02:18
126.   Linkmeister
Well, if you're gonna be late turning on the tube, it's nice to see a home run by one of the new kids right away.
2006-08-01 17:02:43
127.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Arroyo's thrown 70 pitches, and he's not out of the third inning.
2006-08-01 17:03:07
128.   Bluebleeder87
Heads up by Russell Martin
2006-08-01 17:03:09
129.   micktissue
Jeez, I shuold walk away from the 'puter more often.
2006-08-01 17:03:32
130.   trainwreck
Bronson must be hungover again.
2006-08-01 17:03:59
131.   Bluebleeder87
Loney with another nice hit, wow great is this the same Loney?
2006-08-01 17:04:02
132.   thinkblue0
you know, if we keep Nomar after this season we're pretty dumb (and that's because of this hit)...just use that money on Schmidt/Zito and give Loney the 1B job.
2006-08-01 17:04:19
133.   DXMachina
101 - Ross did hit one memorable walk off home run down the stretch in 2004. It may have been his only hit in 2004.
2006-08-01 17:04:21
134.   StolenMonkey86
Nice one there by Loney
2006-08-01 17:04:31
135.   micktissue
Two nice Loney ABs so far ...
2006-08-01 17:04:40
136.   Steve
Here comes Loney. Apparently not every prospect with 12 bad major league at-bats is lost forever.
2006-08-01 17:04:56
137.   overkill94
Oh man, my fantasy team is dominating today: Betemit, Martin, Loney, and Lofton are a combined 5-8 with 1 HR, 2 R, 3 RBI, 1 SB. Not to mention I have Beltran on my team as well.

Now if only my pitching could do a little better...

2006-08-01 17:04:59
138.   scooplew
Are we witnessing the future?
2006-08-01 17:05:06
139.   Disabled List
I'm liking this whole base-hit-with-runner-in-scoring-position thing.

We should be be doing that more often.

2006-08-01 17:05:23
140.   Disabled List
I'm liking this whole base-hit-with-runner-in-scoring-position thing.

We should be doing that more often.

2006-08-01 17:05:52
141.   Bluebleeder87
130 Bronson must be hungover again.


2006-08-01 17:06:18
142.   thinkblue0

not because of this hit.

2006-08-01 17:06:29
143.   StolenMonkey86
Arroyo at 75 pitches through 3.

Every Dodger position player has a hit except for Lugo.

2006-08-01 17:06:36
144.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Arroyo is averaging 25 pitches per inning.
So, 25 times nine equals... Something out of Oakland's Billy Martin era.
2006-08-01 17:06:55
145.   LetsGoDodgers
Nice to see 4 on the board with 2 outs.
2006-08-01 17:08:16
146.   Disabled List
That was a wierd double post. It submitted when I hit 'edit'.

137 Lucky you. I started Arroyo tonight... With the way he's been pitching lately, it looks like he's gonna be DFA'd pretty soon.

And by pretty soon, I mean, as soon as this game's over.

2006-08-01 17:09:36
147.   overkill94
Our rookies are good...
2006-08-01 17:09:37
148.   thinkblue0
"LO" "N" "EY"
2006-08-01 17:10:28
149.   trainwreck
Our defense has vastly improved over the past few days.
2006-08-01 17:11:33
150.   Bluebleeder87
Loney at 1st is looking alot better everyday, HIGH LIGHT PLAY BY LONEY
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2006-08-01 17:12:30
151.   StolenMonkey86
150 - Wish I saw it
2006-08-01 17:12:39
152.   micktissue
Going back to that Timmermann insight on another thread, are we all experiencing a two-out, 4-run Maslowesque "peak - experience"?
2006-08-01 17:13:50
153.   StolenMonkey86
Gameday's editorializing

Lofton singles on a soft line drive

2006-08-01 17:14:32
154.   Jacob L
Lugo's really adding a spark here.
2006-08-01 17:14:44
155.   StolenMonkey86
At least Lugo hit the ball softly enough that they didn't turn 2
2006-08-01 17:14:54
156.   micktissue
Do Lugo's ABs look as ugly as they sound?
2006-08-01 17:15:25
157.   trainwreck
I have the feeling Lugo won't be hitting number #3 anymore.
2006-08-01 17:15:41
158.   King of the Hobos
For those watching the Braves game, JAWFA. I'm going to miss that.
2006-08-01 17:16:14
159.   Nagman
HSC has been DFA'd.
2006-08-01 17:16:21
160.   Sam DC

From the Nats chat site:

"Hee Seop Choi was DFAd! Grab him!

I think he has an option left, and he could take over for Ward next season."

2006-08-01 17:16:23
161.   Greg Brock
It's a good thing we all have perspective, and aren't basing Lugo's worth on two at bats.
2006-08-01 17:17:56
162.   Bluebleeder87
154 Lugo's really adding a spark here.

[need new sarcasm battery] ;O)

2006-08-01 17:18:19
163.   trainwreck
We are judging him on three at bats lol.
2006-08-01 17:18:27
164.   Jacob L
161 That's right. I waited 3 at bats.
2006-08-01 17:18:30
165.   DXMachina
161 - It's three at bats. That's 50% more sample size.
2006-08-01 17:19:19
166.   FirstMohican
Man... Hanley Ramirez is good.
2006-08-01 17:19:29
167.   Greg Brock
Yeah. Three at bats. You're correct.Makes you look much more patient and reasonable.
2006-08-01 17:20:25
168.   StolenMonkey86
166 - Good for him. I let him go from my fantasy team in the middle of a nasty slump because Troy Glaus became eligible at short
2006-08-01 17:20:48
169.   micktissue
Is Loney channeling Mark Grace or even Wes Parker? Line drives, nice footwork around the bag. Hmmmmmm ...
2006-08-01 17:20:54
170.   trainwreck
I am just guessing Lugo is anxious because he is swinging often and swinging at bad pitches and I doubt he could have an OBP over 370 if he typically swings like this. He is no Vlad.
2006-08-01 17:21:19
171.   Bob Timmermann
I think the rush to judgment started when FDR said he would put through his plan to end the Depression in 100 days. If he were elected president now, he would have 100 minutes.
2006-08-01 17:21:24
172.   overkill94
Odalis actually got out of his first AL inning unscatched: 2 K's and 1 BB. If he turns it all around I'm gonna be very upset...I'm not holding my breath though.
2006-08-01 17:21:29
173.   Gen3Blue
At least Drew got six pitches. Do the guys realize next inning they could be rid of Arroyo by taking a few pitches.
Please somebody realize that defense can be very important. Nice play Loney.
2006-08-01 17:21:51
174.   King of the Hobos
Elbert gave up another hit (another homer) and 2 more walks while striking out 2 more. He has 6 Ks through 4 IP, but 6 BBs and 2 homers. Hopefully his next outing is a little better.
2006-08-01 17:21:52
175.   Sam DC
Utley already has his hit.
2006-08-01 17:22:18
176.   overkill94
And Izturis doubled in his first Cub AB. What's next, Tom Goodwin making a comeback and going 4-4 for the Giants tomorrow?
2006-08-01 17:22:57
177.   StolenMonkey86
Izturis' first AB as a Cub

pitch 1- called strike
pitch 2- called strike
pitch 3- ball
pitch 4- in play, no out recorded

Double to right off Vargas

2006-08-01 17:24:12
178.   thinkblue0

There's his hit for the next three weeks.

2006-08-01 17:24:13
179.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Nine-pitch inning for Sele. 57 through 5 IP.
2006-08-01 17:24:14
180.   StolenMonkey86
176 - No, actually Odalis Perez just struck out Dye and Konerko.
2006-08-01 17:24:15
181.   Jacob L
173 Yes, but if we chase Arroyo than aren't we falling right into the Reds evil plan. They've got their "newly revitalized pen" (tm) with, waddayacallem, those guys who they traded for.
2006-08-01 17:24:16
182.   trainwreck
Elbert has gotten away with his high walk rates, but now that it has hurt him, hopefully, he puts more effort into cutting them down.
2006-08-01 17:24:24
183.   FirstMohican
176 - No... it was Grissom, actually. Ward also will hit for the cycle tomorrow, injuring both of his hamstrings running to 3B.
2006-08-01 17:26:11
184.   Steve
There is no substantive difference between "judging him on two atbats" and paricipating in the farcical claim that he is a .900 hitter worthy of giving up one of the game's top prospects.
2006-08-01 17:26:36
185.   thinkblue0

Not from lack of effort, just takes time to learn to throw strikes.

2006-08-01 17:26:49
186.   StolenMonkey86
97 pitches through 5 for Arroyo, Sele has 57 through 4
2006-08-01 17:27:21
187.   Jacob L
184 And just to repeat for the record, I judged him on 3 at bats. 3.

And that's on the GameDay, not even on tv or anything.

2006-08-01 17:27:49
188.   trainwreck
Yeah, effort was not the right word to use.
2006-08-01 17:28:01
189.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
184 - That's hyperbolic, to say the least.
2006-08-01 17:29:21
190.   Greg Brock
Steve, you're a funny guy, one of my favorite people on this site, and a very smart fellow...

The only thing farcical is claiming that Guzman is still an elite prospect. And nobody said Lugo was a .900 hitter. I'll take straw men for 1000, Alex.

2006-08-01 17:29:41
191.   StolenMonkey86
But seriously. Doesn't Phillips look like someone just punched him?
2006-08-01 17:30:14
192.   trainwreck
Ross is a powerhouse.
2006-08-01 17:30:27
193.   scooplew
Number of pages devoted to Daryle Ward in Dodgers' 2003 media guide — 3 1/3.
Number of extra-base hits Daryle Ward had in 52 games with Dodgers in 2003 — one.
2006-08-01 17:30:34
194.   King of the Hobos
Ross now has more homers than any Dodger.
2006-08-01 17:30:47
195.   StolenMonkey86
Well, there he goes again.
2006-08-01 17:31:02
196.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Not so much that a home run was hit, as who hit it.
2006-08-01 17:32:27
197.   FirstMohican
183 - And David Ross will homer.
2006-08-01 17:33:24
198.   Gen3Blue
What did we get for Ross? But he's only a 20 HR guy. I'd be more worried about Guzman 4 years from now when he is 25.
2006-08-01 17:33:49
199.   fan 4 40 plus
Sandy Alomar vs Odalis in KC
2006-08-01 17:34:08
200.   Blu2
Toby (I Don't Want To Be Here) Hall and Gio for David Ross. OK, Lofton if you insist...
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2006-08-01 17:35:16
201.   fan 4 40 plus
199 Alomar doubles in Crede, there goes the shutout for Odalis
2006-08-01 17:35:16
202.   King of the Hobos
Elbert's pitch count was low enough that he pitched another inning. A man reached on an error, but nothing else happened.
2006-08-01 17:35:20
203.   Jacob L
Odalis' personal catcher just tagged him for an RBI double.

Its ex- Dodgers day!

2006-08-01 17:35:55
204.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
198 - Wasn't Ross released during Spring Training '05?
2006-08-01 17:37:21
205.   regfairfield
Sold to Pittsburgh for $75,000 after going 0 for Spring Training.
2006-08-01 17:37:36
206.   Bluebleeder87
191 But seriously. Doesn't Phillips look like someone just punched him?

I just investigated & came to the conclusion that he looks normal.

2006-08-01 17:37:56
207.   StolenMonkey86
198 - he's got 13 HR in 130 AB this year
2006-08-01 17:38:18
208.   Bluebleeder87
somebody better tell Furcal he ain't a power hitter.
2006-08-01 17:38:31
209.   King of the Hobos
Shane Justis' arrival in Vero seems to have resulted in Dewitt playing 3B fulltime. Has his career as a 2B come to an end? Or do the Dodgers just really like Justis at 2B?
2006-08-01 17:39:46
210.   StolenMonkey86
208 - good luck. He saw Cesar Izturis homer over the weekend
2006-08-01 17:40:09
211.   thinkblue0

do you expect him to swat it into the ground every time? He got a little under it, no biggie.

2006-08-01 17:40:24
212.   Bluebleeder87
you guys know what "lansar" means in french?
I do. :o)
2006-08-01 17:40:43
213.   StolenMonkey86
He turned 2 to end the 2nd, and scored in the first after Aramis homered.
2006-08-01 17:41:57
214.   Steve
There is no substantive reason for drawing the line on the other side of Guzman. That was an entirely arbitrary, circular decision borne out of the necessity of drafting a press release that the dodgers were picking up a "slugger." (consider this the refutation of your bogus strawman argument as well)

The dodgers picked up a nobody, for no reason, with no purpose but to make an absurd distinction without a difference on both sides of the trade. It is as of today, a disaster, always will be, and it doesn't matter if lugo gets ten atbats, 100, or 1000.

2006-08-01 17:42:29
215.   Steve
There is no substantive reason for drawing the line on the other side of Guzman. That was an entirely arbitrary, circular decision borne out of the necessity of drafting a press release that the dodgers were picking up a "slugger." (consider this the refutation of your bogus strawman argument as well)

The dodgers picked up a nobody, for no reason, with no purpose but to make an absurd distinction without a difference on both sides of the trade. It is as of today, a disaster, always will be, and it doesn't matter if lugo gets ten atbats, 100, or 1000.

2006-08-01 17:42:43
216.   StolenMonkey86
Odalis Perez held on to a lead, heading to the bottom of the 2nd in KC
2006-08-01 17:43:07
217.   Greg Brock
214 Well, I guess that settles it.
2006-08-01 17:43:25
218.   regfairfield
213 And what has Maddux contributed? That's right, nothing.
2006-08-01 17:44:03
219.   StolenMonkey86
212 - Would you like a cookie?
2006-08-01 17:44:15
220.   overkill94
I knew Sele's success in the first few innings was too good to be true.
2006-08-01 17:44:22
221.   Bluebleeder87
hanger. 4-4 with Dunn hitting a bomb
2006-08-01 17:44:23
222.   ddger
I think this will be Sele's last start for a while.
2006-08-01 17:44:28
223.   trainwreck
Why is Dunn hitting second with 32 homeruns?
2006-08-01 17:44:39
224.   thinkblue0

I speak French and have no idea what you're talking about.

2006-08-01 17:44:39
225.   Uncle Miltie
I guess Sele isn't any better than BJ
2006-08-01 17:44:57
226.   Steve
217 -- No, 215 was the real kicker, didn't you think?
2006-08-01 17:45:25
227.   thinkblue0
someone go look at what I said during dunn's first AB.

These shifts are so ridiculously stupid.

2006-08-01 17:45:32
228.   Uncle Miltie
223- studies have been done that say you should bat your best hitter 2nd. Dunn gets on base a ton.
2006-08-01 17:45:33
229.   Bluebleeder87
Would you like a cookie?


2006-08-01 17:46:33
230.   Greg Brock
Actually, I thought you were spot on in 214, and completely way off base in 215.
2006-08-01 17:46:59
231.   trainwreck
Interesting development. I hope DeWitt improves his defense.
2006-08-01 17:47:32
232.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Looks like the roof might be caving in.
2006-08-01 17:48:14
233.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
"On-field delay?"
2006-08-01 17:48:18
234.   sanchez101
I just arrived, Im happy to see some new blood in the lineup, especially Loney, Betemit and Lugo. What did Loney's double look like? Was it a line drive just past the outfielders, or was it a booming shot off the wall?
2006-08-01 17:48:46
235.   Greg Brock
Charlie Steiner has the worst depth perception this side of Sammy Davis Jr.
2006-08-01 17:49:31
236.   Bluebleeder87

well it I was watching the commercial of "before the bigs" of Eric Gagne & they asked him what he wanted to be when he grew up & he said "lansar" in spanish that means pitch. so I figured it meant the same in french.

2006-08-01 17:50:17
237.   StolenMonkey86
Ken Gurnick editorializes
Eric Gagne has been with the club since 2002,

Sure Gagne was a completely different pitcher in 99-01, but was he that different?

2006-08-01 17:51:19
238.   sanchez101
233. Aurelia thought he was hit by the pitch, and had to argue about it. My guess is that was the "on-field delay."
2006-08-01 17:51:21
239.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Stick. Fork. Done.
2006-08-01 17:51:32
240.   StolenMonkey86
228 - Funny. We put Kenny Lofton there.
2006-08-01 17:51:51
241.   xaphor
[236] As long as you say it with that arrogance they find so becoming.
2006-08-01 17:52:11
242.   StolenMonkey86
Amazing, Ross doesn't bat 1.000 with RISP against the Dodgers
2006-08-01 17:52:13
243.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
2006-08-01 17:53:05
244.   scooplew
With Sele pitching, I could see this inning coming...
2006-08-01 17:53:17
245.   Mark Joseph

It does, but it is spelled "lancer".

2006-08-01 17:53:42
246.   FirstMohican
223 - Soriano leads off with over 30 hr.
2006-08-01 17:54:26
247.   Greg Brock
245 Like JT Lancer, my favorite television detective?
2006-08-01 17:55:32
248.   trainwreck
Did anyone else notice all the puffyness around Steiner's eyes? Looked like he just came back from Lasik surgery.
2006-08-01 17:55:36
249.   Bob Timmermann
I thought this pitcher was in Congress?
2006-08-01 17:55:50
250.   Bluebleeder87
Lugo is going thrue "lerning NL pitching woes" no?
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2006-08-01 17:56:15
251.   trainwreck
There you go, Lugo calmed down and was patient.
2006-08-01 17:56:21
252.   StolenMonkey86
Jermaine Dye should be crying in the dugout right now. He's struck out twice in two at bats to Odalis Perez.
2006-08-01 17:56:24
253.   thinkblue0

you're probably right. A lot of words in French and Spanish are very similar. I speak English, French, and Swedish so sometimes it can get a little difficult remembering everything haha.

2006-08-01 17:57:11
254.   Steve
Is he the Republican one or the Democrat one?
2006-08-01 17:57:27
255.   StolenMonkey86
56 pitches, 1 run, 2 hits, 2 walks, 4 K for Odalis Perez through 3 innings
2006-08-01 17:58:21
256.   StolenMonkey86
1st and 2nd for Ethier, nobody out
2006-08-01 17:58:22
257.   Bluebleeder87
I thought this pitcher was in Congress?

Sorry Bob, that one went way! passed me.

2006-08-01 17:58:41
258.   Bob Timmermann
Actually Bill Bray is too young to be in the House of Representatives. He's only 23.

However, he could be governor of California. You just need to be 18.

2006-08-01 17:58:42
259.   thinkblue0
Eithier has put together some really awful at bats tonight.
2006-08-01 17:59:11
260.   FirstMohican
Bob... why haven't I seen a "Pujols tests positive for performance enhancing drug" headline?
2006-08-01 17:59:22
261.   Bob Timmermann

There's a Congressman in the San Diego area who was recently elected with the last name of "Bilbray"

2006-08-01 17:59:43
262.   StolenMonkey86
Let's see Betemit bat right-handed
2006-08-01 18:00:18
263.   xaphor
Looks like Tomko next inning
2006-08-01 18:00:24
264.   Steve
Don't forget this one.

2006-08-01 18:00:54
265.   Bluebleeder87
wow, thank you Freel (droped an easy pop up by betemit)
2006-08-01 18:01:19
266.   StolenMonkey86
That'll do, Wilson.
2006-08-01 18:02:11
267.   thinkblue0
I don't eat much fast food anyways, but I've boycotted Carl's for like 4 years now because of their commercials.

This new one with the pastrami makes me want to turn into the Hulk or something.

2006-08-01 18:02:44
268.   StolenMonkey86
Who to PH for Sele?
2006-08-01 18:04:26
269.   thinkblue0

it may not matter.

2006-08-01 18:04:46
270.   sanchez101
I still like Aybar, but so far, Betemit isn't making me regret the Atlanta trade.
2006-08-01 18:05:45
271.   sanchez101
who say's a catchers running speed doesn't matter?
2006-08-01 18:05:48
272.   Bluebleeder87
WOW Russell finds a way
2006-08-01 18:06:15
273.   StolenMonkey86
2006-08-01 18:06:43
274.   xaphor
Everybody loves Martin, even the first base ump.
2006-08-01 18:06:45
275.   thinkblue0
let's hope our bullpen doesn't collapse tonight.
2006-08-01 18:07:12
276.   Greg Brock
275 I disagree.
2006-08-01 18:07:34
277.   StolenMonkey86
oops, I just got so used to Grady batting him 8th . . .
2006-08-01 18:07:42
278.   D4P
Gameday needs to come up with a new way to initially report RBI groundouts. "In play, run-scoring play" is too much of a tease...
2006-08-01 18:07:55
279.   Bluebleeder87

me & pastrami don't mix.

2006-08-01 18:09:00
280.   StolenMonkey86
276 - you want our bullpen to collapse?
2006-08-01 18:09:01
281.   trainwreck
Time for a Cruz pinch hit HR... oh wait.
2006-08-01 18:10:06
282.   StolenMonkey86
ph for the ph with Olmedo?
2006-08-01 18:10:09
283.   Bob Timmermann
Greg Brock apparently had his puppy killed by Jonathan Broxton.
2006-08-01 18:10:27
284.   Greg Brock
280 Of course! Don't you?

Let's see how far the sarcasm train can go.

2006-08-01 18:10:52
285.   Marty
I've said this before, but the best pastrami in the world is at Langers on the corner of Alvarado and 7th.
2006-08-01 18:11:37
286.   Greg Brock
When faced with a statement of such obviousitude, I like to go the other way.

I'm contrarian like that.

2006-08-01 18:11:59
287.   thinkblue0

gotta disagree...I go with Canter's

2006-08-01 18:12:23
288.   StolenMonkey86
oh, so your puppy is ok?
2006-08-01 18:13:17
289.   Marty
I respectfully say that Canter's is not in the same league.
2006-08-01 18:14:08
290.   SCRocks

No question about Langers! It is the best Pastrami by far.


2006-08-01 18:14:14
291.   bhsportsguy
285 Not the best but an old High School hangout, Johnny's in Culver City.
2006-08-01 18:14:41
292.   Uncle Miltie
Great at bat by Old Maid. He kills LHP.
2006-08-01 18:14:47
293.   Humma Kavula
Good job, Saenz! Nice walk.
2006-08-01 18:14:54
294.   bhsportsguy
Rare walk by the Tomato.
2006-08-01 18:14:59
295.   Greg Brock
Jerry's Famous Deli has great pastrami, if you don't mind taking out financial aid for a sandwich.
2006-08-01 18:15:17
296.   SCRocks
everybody move up 90!


2006-08-01 18:15:38
297.   Greg Brock
I'm glad Furcal got a triple.
2006-08-01 18:15:43
298.   Humma Kavula
2006-08-01 18:15:44
299.   StolenMonkey86
I love bases loaded walks when it's the other team giving them out
2006-08-01 18:16:37
300.   fan 4 40 plus
Love that updated Cincy bullpen!!
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2006-08-01 18:16:37
301.   D4P
If I were the Reds, I think I would have preferred Coffey facing Ledee over Cormier facing Saenz.
2006-08-01 18:16:51
302.   xaphor
Tomato made it all the way round.
2006-08-01 18:17:00
303.   bhsportsguy
He was chugging and not to be stopped, the Tomato scoring from first.
2006-08-01 18:17:13
304.   Uncle Miltie
Great hit by Fookie
2006-08-01 18:17:32
305.   D4P
I hope the Dodgers win this game.
2006-08-01 18:17:44
306.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, it's just a double and a fielder's choice.
2006-08-01 18:18:00
307.   scareduck
Rheal good! (Or not.)
2006-08-01 18:18:02
308.   bhsportsguy
301 I agree, sometimes that lefty/righty thing gets overplayed.
2006-08-01 18:18:10
309.   Marty
I saw in play, run scoring play, then have to wait three minutes before I know what happened.
2006-08-01 18:18:16
310.   Bluebleeder87
No question about Langers! It is the best Pastrami by far.

I tasted pastrami when I was a kid.(no lye) that's about it.

2006-08-01 18:19:02
311.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers better win. Or millions of puppies will die!
2006-08-01 18:19:15
312.   Linkmeister
You guys would be very kind if you stopped talking about pastrami. It's very very hard to find out here in the tropics. Teriyaki beef isn't difficult at all, but NY-style deli food never migrated here.
2006-08-01 18:19:18
313.   Greg Brock
I'm glad Furcal got a double and a fielder's choice.
2006-08-01 18:19:26
314.   D4P
Fur-kel is now OPSing .735, which (given that his career .754 was worth $13 mil/year) must be worth around $12.67 mil/year.
2006-08-01 18:19:37
315.   Suffering Bruin
I love turning on the television and seeing a five run rally!
2006-08-01 18:19:45
316.   scooplew
Saenz' walk was remarkable. In his career, he is 11-for-56 with the bases loaded. That was his second walk. He has K'd 14 times.
2006-08-01 18:19:53
317.   bhsportsguy
The at bat that will get lost in that inning was Loney getting that walk, yes I know that he did not get any pitches but he did not panic and rush things. Nice job James (little biased since we share the same birthday)
2006-08-01 18:20:08
318.   Bob Timmermann
Pastrami tends to make me sick to my stomach.
2006-08-01 18:20:36
319.   bhsportsguy
312 Shall we talk about portuguese sausage and eggs?
2006-08-01 18:20:42
320.   D4P
Man, I really wish the scorer would have given Fur-kel a triple. He deserved it! Plus, it would have helped his SLG%, which means a lot to me as a fan.
2006-08-01 18:21:06
321.   Disabled List
Best pastrami in LA is at Brent's Deli in Northridge. Canter's and Langer's are also worthy options, but Jerry's is an abomination.

If you're ever in NYC, don't even give Roxie's, Stage, or Carnegie Delis a second thought and head straight to Katz's on the Lower East Side.

A bicoastal pastrami-off between Katz's and Brent's would be a wonder to behold.

2006-08-01 18:21:44
322.   bhsportsguy
310 Seriously, lye, how do you do that? Just wondering.
2006-08-01 18:22:01
323.   Uncle Miltie
Nice outing for Odalis against the White Sox
4 IP 3 H 2 R 2 BB 4 K 1 HR

He needs to build up his arm strength. I think he'll do well pitching in the AL.

2006-08-01 18:22:50
324.   Bob Timmermann
I would think that someone who pinch hits a lot would find it hard to go up to the plate with the bases loaded and try to get a walk. You want to swing.

Not everyone can be Elmer Valo.

2006-08-01 18:23:10
325.   Telemachos
No doubt this was mentioned somewhere previously and I missed it, but did anyone catch Maddux on the pre-game show? Furcal was his favorite player when he was a Brave.
2006-08-01 18:23:51
326.   Linkmeister
319 Mmmm. Redondo's Portuguese sausage.

Or we could talk about Loco Moco. ;)

2006-08-01 18:24:03
327.   bhsportsguy
323 I always wish former Dodgers well except when they face the Dodgers.
2006-08-01 18:24:48
328.   Bob Timmermann
Even Darryl Strawberry?
2006-08-01 18:25:14
329.   bhsportsguy
326 Has to be the most unhealthy combination but it sure tastes good. With a couple of Spam musabi on the side.
2006-08-01 18:25:57
330.   Marty
I've had both and I actually rate Langers over Katz. Brent's in my book is definitely the best in the valley, but not up to Langers. Plus Langers has amazing rye bread and top notch krinkle-cut fries :)
2006-08-01 18:26:08
331.   bhsportsguy
328 Yes, saw him play in high school, hit a ball out of Venice High.
2006-08-01 18:26:42
332.   StolenMonkey86
How's Tomko's velocity?
2006-08-01 18:26:45
333.   xaphor
[325] Furcal always offfered to be the DD.
2006-08-01 18:27:01
334.   Bluebleeder87
Pastrami tends to make me sick to my stomach.

pastrami tends to give heart attacks to millions of americans.

2006-08-01 18:27:08
335.   trainwreck
I don't even eat Pastrami, but you guys are making me hungry.
2006-08-01 18:27:19
336.   Uncle Miltie
That's our $4.5 million middle reliever!

Actually I like Tomko in this role. His contract stinks, but we might be able to get a little bit of production out him coming out of the bullpen.

2006-08-01 18:27:51
337.   scooplew
Good point. Elmer Valo! Wow. Thanks for the flashback. Only Czechoslovakian ever to play in the majors. (And there is no more Czechoslovakia). I saw him get a pinch-hit double or triple for the Dodgers in the Coliseum a million years ago. I think it won the game. It was sometime in the middle of the Cold War.
2006-08-01 18:28:57
338.   Sam DC
With all due respect, folks suggesting Jerry's or Canters (or LA Stage or Carnegie for that matter) really must never have been to Langers. It's supergood.

There are probably New York hole in the wall places that are better. Probably.

2006-08-01 18:29:15
339.   Bluebleeder87
How's Tomko's velocity?

he toped out at 95. with a good curve to strike out Dunn.

2006-08-01 18:29:48
340.   StolenMonkey86
339 - good stuff. thanks for the info
2006-08-01 18:29:52
341.   bhsportsguy
Maybe this bullpen gig will work out for Tomko?
2006-08-01 18:30:25
342.   D4P
It just occurred to me that tonight's lineup contains only 2 shortstops (not counting Lofton, who hits like one)
2006-08-01 18:30:30
343.   StolenMonkey86
yay, Lugo gets a hit as a Dodger
2006-08-01 18:30:54
344.   StolenMonkey86
342 - did you count Betemit?
2006-08-01 18:31:19
345.   Bluebleeder87
How's Tomko's velocity?

you really have to look at the batter, to see what kind of "95" type fastball a pitcher has.IMO

2006-08-01 18:31:21
346.   caseybarker
I had the misfortune of having a COLD pastrami sandwich at Port of Subs. Togo's pastrami is good.

Is Porteguese sausage like chorizo?

2006-08-01 18:31:31
347.   bhsportsguy
336 If he can win the closer job next year, the contract really isn't that bad at all.
2006-08-01 18:31:33
348.   bhsportsguy
336 If he can win the closer job next year, the contract really isn't that bad at all.
2006-08-01 18:31:41
349.   Sam DC
I hadn't seen 321 or following when I wrote my entry in the Pastrami Chronicles. Never had Brent's or Katz'.

Pleased to follow Marty's " x' " up with a " z' " though.

2006-08-01 18:32:05
350.   bhsportsguy
348 sorry, there is no need for a repeat of that comment.
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2006-08-01 18:32:57
351.   caseybarker
Cold-war and pastrami reminds me of a joke I once heard.
2006-08-01 18:33:20
352.   StolenMonkey86
Baez pitched a scoreless inning and struck out someone (on the Pirates).

Aybar 0-4 with a walk

2006-08-01 18:34:30
353.   bhsportsguy
346 It depends, if the chorizo is solid, than yes, otherwise it is more like other spicy sausages, not sure where the name came from.
2006-08-01 18:35:13
354.   xaphor
Well Grady knows not to do that again.
2006-08-01 18:35:55
355.   StolenMonkey86
And Fernando Tatis hit a double in Baltimore
2006-08-01 18:37:39
356.   Greg Brock
Somebody needs to tell Beimel that he's not a member of the '93 Phillies. Gadzooks, nice haircut.
2006-08-01 18:37:53
357.   Linkmeister
346 I dunno, but this seems approximately right for the distinction between chorizon and Portuguese sausage:

It's like Italian in that it can be jazzed up to be really hot or really sweet. It goes well with eggs.

2006-08-01 18:37:59
358.   natepurcell
Fernando Tatis is still alive? Who knew.
2006-08-01 18:38:34
359.   scooplew
Doublechecking, there are three other big leaguers listed as natives of Czechoslovakia. But was it called by that name when they were born there? I'll stop now.
2006-08-01 18:38:58
360.   Greg S
355 Wow. Theres a name from the past. I was there the day he hit the two slams in one inning. What happened to him? Surgery? Prison? How do you dissapear for 3 years?
2006-08-01 18:39:07
361.   D4P
did you count Betemit?

I couldn't remember if he counts as a shortstop or not.

2006-08-01 18:39:50
362.   Uncle Miltie
Has this been posted yet?

Red Sox designated first baseman Hee-Seop Choi for assignment.
Choi has missed a month at Triple-A Pawtucket with a knee injury and wasn't hitting before he got hurt, so there's little doubt that he'll get through waivers.

Oh how the mighty have fallen

2006-08-01 18:40:43
363.   natepurcell
how has Loney looked today?
2006-08-01 18:42:27
364.   Greg Brock
Loney's been very solid, and he's up third this inning.
2006-08-01 18:42:59
365.   StolenMonkey86
the old 1-6-3
2006-08-01 18:43:59
366.   Bob Timmermann
The DBacks are blowing their chance to wear their checkered jersey. Looks like the Reds will keep their one game edge.

The AL could see some jersey changes.

2006-08-01 18:44:18
367.   Bluebleeder87
363 how has Loney looked today?

Loney's glove & bat look like rock stars.

2006-08-01 18:45:11
368.   King of the Hobos
363 He made the defensive play of the game on a Dunn drive down the line, and has looked very good with the bat. Showed patience and hit some solid line drives.
2006-08-01 18:45:11
369.   D4P
Before anyone gets too giddy over scoring 9 runs, keep in mind we only "earned" 4 of them.
2006-08-01 18:45:28
370.   Bluebleeder87
363 how has Loney looked today?

Loney's glove & bat look like rock stars.

2006-08-01 18:45:28
371.   Bluebleeder87
363 how has Loney looked today?

Loney's glove & bat look like rock stars.

2006-08-01 18:45:28
372.   Bob Timmermann
Actually we could have had a yellow/checkered jersey tangle with the Padres, Reds, and DBacks.

But not to be....

2006-08-01 18:45:37
373.   Steve
Most of Kyle Lohse's problems can be traced back to being born in Chico.
2006-08-01 18:46:35
374.   Sam DC
I liked that comment Blue. You can repost it as much as you like as far as I'm concerned!
2006-08-01 18:46:48
375.   Bob Timmermann
I believe I shouldn't poke fun at the Redding/Chico Greater Metropolitan Area anymore.
2006-08-01 18:47:50
376.   natepurcell
doubles doubles doubles.
2006-08-01 18:48:39
377.   bhsportsguy
376 Remember, no power for Loney.
2006-08-01 18:48:41
378.   D4P
I'll be visiting Redding in roughly a month.
2006-08-01 18:48:47
379.   Bob Timmermann
Is that a triple double?
2006-08-01 18:49:14
380.   ddger
Who's going to pitch 9th? Broxton or Saito?
2006-08-01 18:49:17
381.   Bob Timmermann

Why? Did you violate the Patriot Act?

2006-08-01 18:49:19
382.   Greg S
Before anyone gets too giddy over scoring 9 runs, keep in mind we only "earned" 4 of them.
Yes, and beofre anybody enjoys this winning streak, keep in mind that we lost 5 games ago.
2006-08-01 18:49:21
383.   natepurcell
Loney's batspeed looks alot better since hes been called up then at the beginning of the year.
2006-08-01 18:49:37
384.   Bluebleeder87
Broxton will come in for the 9th, we have a nice lead for him.
2006-08-01 18:49:59
385.   Gen3Blue
Oh, man. We kept Loney. Thank god.
2006-08-01 18:50:08
386.   Gen3Blue
Oh, man. We kept Loney. Thank god.
2006-08-01 18:50:45
387.   ddger
Will Loney bat higher in the lineup next game?
2006-08-01 18:50:52
388.   Greg Brock
For as much as we underrate defense, it's hard to not be impressed by how smooth Loney is around the bag. The kid is a really outstanding fielder.
2006-08-01 18:51:04
389.   bhsportsguy
383 Confidence after hitting .380
2006-08-01 18:51:10
390.   King of the Hobos
380 Why waste either with a 5 run lead? It seems like more of a Carrara/Dessens situation. It's just too bad we don't have Lance Carter to make it a save situation.
2006-08-01 18:51:34
391.   D4P
Did you violate the Patriot Act?

Probably. I'll be visiting family in Redding and Dunsmuir, as well as in central Oregon.

2006-08-01 18:52:29
392.   bhsportsguy
386 Some scouts still down on him, luckily.
2006-08-01 18:53:10
393.   natepurcell
Has Furcal climbed out of Steve's useless well yet?
2006-08-01 18:53:21
394.   trainwreck
Buster Olney totally nailed the Reds being the biggest winners of the trade deadline.
2006-08-01 18:53:26
395.   StolenMonkey86
Furcal not letting it end
2006-08-01 18:54:38
396.   D4P
Has Furcal climbed out of Steve's useless well yet?

He has the highest salary and lowest OPS of any shortstop on the team (which is saying a lot...)

2006-08-01 18:54:50
397.   bhsportsguy
390 Not sure who they have down there, the Dodgers are starting a 16 straight game run.
2006-08-01 18:55:24
398.   StolenMonkey86
396 - Not for August
2006-08-01 18:56:08
399.   Greg Brock
390 Who's Lance Carter? Never hear of him.
2006-08-01 18:56:40
400.   King of the Hobos
387 Probably not, unless Lucille II is playing for some reason.

I just realized, of our 13 hitters on the 25 man roster, only Hall has an OPS under .700. Ledee's the closest to .700, at .723. And Lofton just lowered his to .724, barely missing Ledee's mark.

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2006-08-01 18:57:20
401.   bhsportsguy
393 You know who can't wait to get back here, the guy who went 4-4 in Vegas yesterday.

My bold prediction is that if he is still hitting like that in 2 weeks, the Dodgers won't wait for September to call him back.

2006-08-01 18:57:37
402.   natepurcell
what are Tomkos stats since hes come back in the bullpen?
2006-08-01 18:58:38
403.   bhsportsguy
The Bull could use an easy outing here, my hope is that he just throws fastballs.
2006-08-01 18:58:47
404.   caseybarker
There's some beautiful country between Western and Central Oregon.

Redding is not the place to be in August.

2006-08-01 18:59:08
405.   King of the Hobos
402 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
2006-08-01 18:59:58
406.   xaphor
What on Earth is the advertisement behind the mound for? We milk cows? Are they trying to throw off the Bull?
2006-08-01 19:00:29
407.   ddger
Sele pitched okay today but does he get another start?
2006-08-01 19:01:06
408.   natepurcell

thanks-thought it was more then 3 inning.

2006-08-01 19:01:21
409.   Bluebleeder87
Martin keeps on thinking that little curve ball is a strike out pitch for Broxton.
2006-08-01 19:01:29
410.   bhsportsguy
402 Including tonight 3 IP, 1 hit, 1 walk and 1 strikeout.
2006-08-01 19:01:39
411.   StolenMonkey86
I'm surprised that Broxton didn't replace Lofton with Repko in to play center for the 9th
2006-08-01 19:02:03
412.   D4P
Redding is not the place to be in August

Or any of the other 11 months.

2006-08-01 19:02:29
413.   Bluebleeder87
why dose Martin keep on calling that pitch if Broxton dons't have it!
2006-08-01 19:03:37
414.   bhsportsguy
Hey Nate, I believe Alex White ended his American Legion schedule, hopefully Logan has scheduled a trip out to North Carolina.

What's the word with Kyle Orr?

2006-08-01 19:03:51
415.   caseybarker

I think there is a rodeo sometime in the fall.

2006-08-01 19:04:42
416.   Bluebleeder87
4 in arrow, nice
2006-08-01 19:04:46
417.   Greg Brock
I'm glad the Dodgers were victorious today.
2006-08-01 19:05:00
418.   natepurcell
game balls all around!
2006-08-01 19:05:27
419.   bhsportsguy
Nice win, can't recall the last time they started a road trip with a win.
2006-08-01 19:05:40
420.   Sam DC
417 ??!! Is the game not still on?
2006-08-01 19:06:16
421.   King of the Hobos
Little says we have a 6 man rotation for this week and he hasn't determined who's leaving it, so Billingsley probably just needs to look better than Sele to keep his spot.
2006-08-01 19:06:37
422.   Sam DC
I guess not; Gameday still has no outs in the bottom of the ninth, though.
2006-08-01 19:06:55
423.   natepurcell
What's the word with Kyle Orr?

Orr is signed don't worry. Work Visas are just hard to get and he wants to play for his national team so he will be here by setempber instructionals.


The Dodgers have reportedly agreed to terms on their fourth-round pick, first baseman Kyle Orr, the first Canadian selected this year. The contract is reportedly for $450,000. The Dodgers are not in any hurry to announce the deal, however, as they have no open visa slots for foreign players and Orr wouldn't be able to begin playing until instructional league.

2006-08-01 19:07:31
424.   D4P
I'm glad the Dodgers were victorious today

You seem to prefer winning over losing. Tell me more...

2006-08-01 19:08:54
425.   Greg Brock
Hey Sam, how are the DC folk gauging the probability of re-signing Soriano?

And are they on the hunt for Bowden effigies? I bet Bob can get them a good deal.

2006-08-01 19:09:07
426.   Telemachos
Can someone who watched the game fill us poor GameChannel-watching-peons in on the last 3 outs?
2006-08-01 19:11:02
427.   caseybarker
Last two outs at once.
2006-08-01 19:11:11
428.   Sam DC
425 Reaction all over the map, but most tend to think Bowden was reasonable in setting a high price and sticking to it. Two draft picks plus a competitive team for the rest of the summer isn't so bad. Boswell has an interesting column at if you're really interested about some of management's possible motives.

My opinion is that only crazy people think DC will be able to re-sign Soriano. But those aren't hard to find around here.

2006-08-01 19:12:36
429.   Bluebleeder87
Steve Lyons "most of the rookies have been great THEY KEEP THERE MOUTH SHUT"
2006-08-01 19:12:54
430.   confucius
423 Canadian named Orr! He must be related to Bobby Orr. This means he'll be really good defensively and have a great wrist shot.
2006-08-01 19:13:14
431.   StolenMonkey86
My opinion is that only crazy people think DC will be able to re-sign Soriano. But those aren't hard to find around here.

True, but I wouldn't put it past them.

2006-08-01 19:13:40
432.   bhsportsguy
423 Alex White or Nick Akins, if we could only get one, because I think we need to pay White 800K to 1 million dollar signing bonus.
2006-08-01 19:14:32
433.   Greg Brock
428 I can't begin to tell you how much I like Boswell. Whether I agree with his opinions or not, he's an outstanding writer.

It's a shame. I'd like Soriano to re-sign. I think most baseball fans are rooting for the Nats to be competitive.

2006-08-01 19:14:59
434.   natepurcell
Did Betemit have any opportunities at 3b today?
2006-08-01 19:15:27
435.   Linkmeister
426 Fly-out to right followed by 6-4-3 double play.
2006-08-01 19:16:36
436.   natepurcell

Ive heard that Akins is going to go to Riverside CC so he could be our big money draft and follow guy.

Sign White this summer, sign Akins next May.

2006-08-01 19:16:52
437.   Steve
Furkel has to hit .500 for the last two months of the season to even approach usefulness.
2006-08-01 19:17:25
438.   confucius
433 They'd be wise to re-sign him, but I can't say as a baseball fan that I am rooting for any team with both Jim Bowden and Frank Robinson :)
2006-08-01 19:18:08
439.   bhsportsguy
436 Nate, you are the man.

434 Just one, ground out to third by the Arroyo.

2006-08-01 19:18:45
440.   confucius
434 Off the top of my head there was a grounder he came in on and threw out the runner. Very routine play though.
2006-08-01 19:20:16
441.   natepurcell
If Betemit didnt fill out as much as he has, I would have advocated trading furcal this winter and sticking Betemit at ss. But I don't think that is a possibility.
2006-08-01 19:22:11
442.   natepurcell
Elizardo Ramirez=Young Pedro Martinez according to Kennedy.

You do the math.

2006-08-01 19:27:48
443.   Steve
442 -- He's going to be traded for Barney Frank?
2006-08-01 19:31:28
444.   King of the Hobos
442 This one?

Was Ramirez considered a prospect this off season? Because if he was, BA didn't place him in Cincinnati's top 10 prospects.

2006-08-01 19:31:51
445.   Steve
How is Howie Kendrick still around? He went 3 for his first 25. That's not what top prospects do.
2006-08-01 19:32:05
446.   das411
Has nobody caught the CYCLE ALERT in the Rays/Tigers game???
2006-08-01 19:39:19
447.   Bob Timmermann
But that game is over.
2006-08-01 19:43:35
448.   Sam DC
In another over game, Wagner blew the save again v. FL -- two-run walkoff homer by Willingham.
2006-08-01 19:56:02
449.   Uncle Miltie
Kent is an old grumpy man who is a cancer in the clubhouse, a strain on the payroll, and a pylon in the field. He should be traded to the Red Sox for Rudy Seanez.

Next year's lineup?
1. Furcal SS
2. Martin C
3. Drew RF
4. Ethier LF
5. Betemit 2B
6. Kemp/Edmonds CF (insurance in case Kemp and/or Ethier slump)
7. Loney 1B
8. LaRoche 3B

2006-08-01 20:07:25
450.   overkill94
449 Your hatred of Kent has been noted, get over it, it's getting very tired
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2006-08-01 20:16:01
451.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2006-08-01 20:38:54
452.   Mark Joseph

It was Czechoslovakia from 1918 to 1992. Not sure which 3 players you are referring to or when they were born.

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