www.bluethoughts.com

Fever and all, I stand ready to forgive Colletti so he can admit the Pierre Mistake.

to = too.

Otherwise, I agree and do hereby forthwith thusly sign.

Thank you Jon, for leading the way.

I think one less not and we are good.

LogikReader (with care)

If you are attempting to bash the Beastie Boys for not being musical, I hate to tell you that you have no idea what you're talking about.
The "Check Your Head" album marked the Beasties return to actually playing their instruments rather than relying on sampling full time. Every album after CYH has featured the Beasties playing instruments. And depending on musical your musical ear, all are actually above average musicians.

(Is that font called "Pierre"?)

That literally made me laugh out loud. Funny stuff.

*

To "Cauleys:

You were dead on about Sheets and LA? Then you must not have seen my blog this morning in which Doug Melvin says the Dodgers never asked about Sheets.

You are wrong on so many things I don't have time to address them. It is sad just how wrong you are but when you take every rumor as gospel, that's what you get.

As far as telling me what my primary job as a reporter is, you're a joke. My primary job is not circulation and selling papers. My primary job is integrity and reporting the facts correctly. Any journalist would tell you that. It shows just how little you know about my job. As a matter of fact, every time you post a comment it shows how little you know about my job. You say you're a respected, successful businessman. Well, you certainly didn't get that by spreading the garbage you've been spreading. And you must be retired now because you apparently have 24 hours a day to read nonsensical reports and post comments. You post about 50 comments a day. When exactly are you working at this successful job? As for the prospect you keep asking me to identify in the Rolen talks, who the hell said one name in particular was discussed? I certainly didn't. But your "sources" know all. You are the expert. I know nothing. I've been a reporter for 31 years. What the heck do I know about journalism, compared to you, the master?*

For the whole thing go here:

http://tinyurl.com/35dyxv

If it is going to stand the test of time, it needs to be perfect.

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/commonsense/text.html

And may I add: please oh please oh please: Keep Ethier(my favorite Dodger) and Kemp (who stings the ball so much that he is a joy to watch in a way I haven't felt since Piazza)

-Vishal, true blue dodger fan since his age 6 season

I really appreciate the layout of our comments section after reading that.

By my count, there are a number of teams still looking for a CFer: Texas, Atlanta, Chicago (AL), Minnesota, SD, and possibly Philly (Victorino and Werth are possibilities), Milwaukee (Bill Hall again?), and StL (Edmonds is risky, Rasmus is not ready).

With only Cameron and Rowand still available, I can see a number of those teams willing to play Pierre (for the right price).

this from ITD:

Some key points from his talk with the media:

He said that this doesn't necessarily mean we'll have to move an outfielder and he likes the depth it creates in the outfield. He also said it allows us to be more focused in our quest for pitching.

He also said this makes him a little bit more comfortable about the in-house options at third base. If something comes up that is a really great option, we would do it, but pitching is the greater priority.

Ned reached out to Juan Pierre last night to talk about how this affects him, but wasn't able to reach him. And when asked if he regrets signing Pierre, he said he absolutely does not. He can't re-write history, but he implored everyone to look back at the circumstances that we were in when we signed him (only one outfielder with more than a month of experience in the Majors - Ethier). He pointed out that Juan did exactly what we expected him to do and that he has never said that Juan was a franchise player. He's a very good player on a winning team and the reason we didn't win last year was not Juan Pierre's fault.

Humma Kavula
Bride of Kavula
Spawn of Kavula

The often paranoid Bruce Galler and family

P.S. If you trade Mr. Pierre, I will gladly present you with my Slappy McPop-up t-shirt to hang in your office.

And with that, I add my name to this noble cause.

To the consternation of all, Juan Pierre will now lead the Dodgers to the World Championship from LF. Much like David Eckstein who wears two rings as the unlikeliest SS in the 21st century, Juan Pierre will be wearing two rings in the 21st century. First as a starting CF and secondly as a LF. Years from now baseball historians will note that the Podboy and Pierre rewrote the expectations for left fielders as they led their respective teams to the World Championship within a few years of each other, even as their own fans heaped ridicule on their derringer like guns. Being fleet of foot was the only skill that was decipherable as they both had an arm that would have even embarrassed Rudy Law, plate discipline that didn't exist, and power that only manifested itself in postseason. These two denizens of the left field tundra had something that couldn't be measured by algorithms or scouts. They had IT and that is all they needed.

Granted I would prefer Pierre was not on our team, but what are you gonna do?

Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier could platoon in right, if Kemp is not traded... The next step for the Dodgers, if they are smart, would be to trade Kemp."

53 Did Rosenthal get anything right in Nashville? Anything?

~GMac In The 909

P.S. Please keep both Ethier and Kemp with the Dodgers and in the starting lineup.

P.P.S. Give LaRoche every opportunity to win the third base job (with the Dodgers).

Now, let's print out 94 more of these and nail them on the front door to Dodger Stadium.

Wily Mo Pena just signed a two year deal, and here is how the mutual option works in that contract: "Pena will get $2 million in 2008 -- thus avoiding arbitration and getting only a slight raise from his $1.875 million in 2007. But he'll have a mutual option for 2009. If the club picks it up, he'll make $5 million in 2009. If the Nationals decline, then Pena can pick up the option for $2 million." http://tinyurl.com/ywhx3w

Very interesting. So if he performs well and the Nats want him, they have to pay $5M. If he is exposed and they aren't willing to pay that much, he can go to the market or elect to stay with the team at a pretty low salary of $2M. Seems like a smart away to get some certainty for both sides and to balance out the risks.

AND maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist, but...

Does anyone else think this is actually Ned being a little bit shrewd? If Ned had gotten rid of Pierre first Boras would have known the Dodgers needed a CF desperately and would have jacked up AJ's price.

However, now that the Dodgers have their CF, I think Coletti is going to get rid of Juan Pierre. Saying "Pierre is moving to left field" is a smoke screen to not let other teams in on how much we want this guy gone.

Any chance this is correct? Maybe now I'm the one being shamelessly optimistic.

I knew Thomas Paine. Thomas Paine was a friend of mine. Jon, you're no Thomas Paine.

Paine, I think, would be in favor of playing Pierre. After all, in the Crisis, he wrote:

The NL West, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.

In short, he's all in favor of over-priced contracts because the handicap engendered makes ultimate victory all the sweeter. Imagine the joy of winning the division in spite of having the worst left fielder in the game.

70- I think you might be right--for those reasons, and also to give AJ the idea that Pierre would bat in front of him "so that he could drive in more runs."

I think we're both being shamelessly optimistic, but hey, it's hot stove season.

Even if Ned and company admit the mistake, Pierre is our problem unless he's traded, an unlikely scenario unless we find a matching problem with a contract issue. The type of trade that could work would be something like Juan and Andy for Rolen. The Cards would be rid of their guy with issues and we trade bad contracts with them.

I think if we really need to simply accept Juan as a left fielder and hope that Torre considers the old notion of American League's second leadoff man being the guy who hits ninth.

The compromise for the start of the season would be Juan in left, batting eighth. He's never been on the DL, maybe that will catch up to him this year. Addition by subraction.

D4P you've been very negative about A Jones. I think some of it is your bias about Boras being his agent. I've already got a few bets on future Dodgers performance. If A Jones does not post an OPS > 840 as a center fielder in 2008 I won't post at all in Oct/2008.

Sincerely,

Jason in Canada.

ToyCannon, I know I have an outstanding bet with you, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is. If you don't remember, I'll search the archives.

I remember the payoff is a 2009 DT Day ticket.

Boras doesn't help, but my concerns would be the same regardless of the identity of his agent (unless, of course, it were me).

I probably wouldn't have many clients.

M. le dzzrtRatt

All the way in.

First he says this:

The next step for the Dodgers, if they are smart, would be to trade Kemp and other young talent for one of the top available starting pitchers — Orioles lefty Erik Bedard or A's righty Dan Haren.

But then he says this:

Jones, 30, is coming off the worst offensive season of his career, but should help a team that finished 10th in the National League last season in runs and next-to-last in homers.

But isn't he implying (as everyone is) an element of risk in signing Jones? No one knows if his 2007 is a fluke or the start of a trend toward decline. While I have high hopes and would've signed him if I were Ned, there's a chance Jones might turn out to be Pierre with a stronger arm (and bigger head). Until we know, would it be prudent to trade an offensive force like Kemp? It would not.

If in June, the Dodgers are losing a lot of 8-7 games, then the Dodgers can look at the option of trading one of their young offensive studs for a front-line pitcher. If Jones is back to mashing, we'd have more leeway to do that. Right now, there are too many unknowns to justify such a move.

Another point: We don't have a lot of OF depth. If a top prospect must be traded, shouldn't it be an infielder or a pitcher?

-Ears of Gob

I marched a mellophone, which is the illegitimate child of a cornet and a french horn, or something like that. I could play it pretty well and even almost in tune, but I sounded a ton better on french horn, back when I was in practice. The point is that while I take your comment into consideration, I stand by my remark.

Ahhh...you remembered...

I forgive Ned so long as he doesn't trade Kemp or Ethier to make room for Pierre.

-theBigGrabowski

Re: Jones--we overpaid.
Incentives. Gentlemen. Incentives. INcentives!

"In Baltimore's case, teams seeking Bedard would also have to take on one of the team's albatross contracts, especially that of Melvin Mora. No one wants to do that."

Also in the Oakland Tribune, Beane seems to be saying he won't trade Haren or Blanton unless the other team is "extremely generous."

Could Ned make a case for trading Kemp for anything less than Bedard, Haren or Santana? No. But that's not the only obstacle to obtaining those pitchers.

I think Kemp's staying. I don't think we're getting any of those pitchers.

Please don't block the path of Ethier or Delwyn Young for a liablity like Pierre.

Is it worth looking into actually sending this letter to the Dodgers front office, although maybe formalized a bit? Who knows if anyone would read it, but maybe we could actually do some real-life, practical good with this...

Ricardo.

PS - And please give James Loney all season to prove himself.

Signed,
Phil M.

Kemp/Jones/Ethier or bust!

-Derrick

Let me suggest Pierre to Texas for CJ Wilson (local kid with a live arm) or Wes Littleton (another local kid that will surely improve). If we have to eat a portion of the contract so be it, as mentioned above we the fans will forgive you.

Happy Hunting for a #4 or 5 starter,
Craig

SushiRabbit

Kemp/Jones/Ethier

Go Dodgers!

Linkmeister

Forgive and remember, that's what I say.

- Rob McMillin

As far as the pitching goes, the big ones are just asking for too much. Santana, Haren. Blanton, Bedard will just leave too many holes. It's amazing to me that the Sawks can maybe get away with offering one truly great player in Ellsbury, a good pitcher in Lester and a couple B level prospects to get Santana but the Dodgers would have to gut the whole franchise for a 1 year rental! No thanks! We have some good young arms coming through the system on our own, Kersaw, McDonald, Elbert, MeLoan. I say we can do with what we have. We can trade Pierre eat part of his contract for a 4 or #5 starter or even AAA pitcher in Chicago White sox or Texas organization and call it a wash. Let Andy take a rip at 3B with Nomar filling in a couple days a week.
Let the young guns go and get 'er done!!

Ethier/Jones/Kemp is a great outfield.

Brent Knapp

E. L. Dave.

Signed, 6 December 2007
County of Los Angeles,
State of California.

I'm right with ya, Jon.

Signed,

Scott

J. Hinmon

when i got the txt message informing me of the andruw signing my first thought... DEAR GOD, please get rid of Juan P. if one of the 4 have to go!!

And get well soon, Joe Torre.

p.s. Ethier/Jones/Kemp

Signed,
Midwest Blue

Tangled Up in Blue

That being said, though I expect people in the organization will read this, I don't expect he will.

Signed,
Uncle Miltie

I want to second the comment that this was very funny: "We understand that Pierre is a nice guy and very fast."

Looks good to me,
Fernando

Err, Ethier in the 8.

I kind of agree with you very much. 160 to me it does sound a little bit like your insulting him. The general purpose of the letter I'm on board with though.

I think we should all step back and take a breath and look at JP with a lack of bias. It is true that JP is not very useful to the Dodgers because, as a #2 hitter, his low OPS and perceived lack of defense is a liability, however, to a team in need of a leadoff hitter this would not necessarily be true.

If we did not have Furcal as a leadoff hitter JP would be slotted into the leadoff role and his lack of power would be relatively unimportant, although his defense would still be problematic. A team without a leadoff hitter might look upon JP as a useful commodity.

If he was truly interested in improving the offense Ned should not have much difficulty trading JP to a team, such as the White Sox or Rangers, in need of a CF/leadoff hitter provided he kept his return expectations to a minimum. With the escalation of CF salaries JP might seem reasonable at $9M.

Arguably, he should be asking for our forgiveness, but that's another matter.

Randor Bierd
Lincoln Holdzkom
Callix Crabbe
Fernandez Hernandez

The Count

Similarly, it seems likely that signing any of the available free agent pitchers to a 3 year deal (Kuroda) will result in superfluous and expensive pitchers in 2009 or 2010. But if Ned is willing to cut bait on his mistakes then I am more willing to see him make them.

http://tinyurl.com/2ec7e4

Chris De Luca for the Pulitzer!

To virtually sign this letter/petition.

JRM

This letter: not insulting.

I don't see how anyone could take offense to something written in Shakespeare font, anyway.

Signed,

Very Respectfully,

Xeifrank

TJ

Doug Minnick
Studio City, CA

I'm only worth 3/5ths of a percentage point??

I agree with those terms...

Yours very truly,

Kenny Landreaux

Matt

I'm a little uncomfortable with the degree to which Pierre has been identified as the root cause of the Dodgers' problems. A weak back end of the rotation, injuries, veterans failing to deliver (Nomar and Gonzo step forward) and an inconsistent bullpen down the stretch should take their share of blame as well.

Having said that, I like the Jones addition and am happy to either keep Pierre as a fourth outfielder or deal him to any team willing to throw us a bone in return.

Chris De Luca is my new best friend.

Meanwhile, Bill Plaschke reaffirms that he is my mortal enemy...

No, no, the Dodgers will not and should not trade the short-armed center fielder. Just because he was overpaid doesn't mean he lacked value. Did everybody somehow miss that he was second in the league in stolen bases and led the league in sacrifice bunts?

I can't even respond to that anymore.

Here we thought the Dodgers just needed a little pitching and hitting, but General Manager Ned Colletti is apparently intent on acquiring something much more powerful.

Forgiveness.

Matt Rochlin

212 Plaschke might be the least knowledgeable sports writer EVER. Anyone care to send him a few articles on why stolen bases and sacrifice bunts suck?

CalState L.A is with in walking distance from my house.

He won't listen. He's ignorant.

[Jones] power allows them to give Andy LaRoche a long-awaited chance to win the job at third base.

It's really that Jones' bat, if sound, reduces the downside risk of giving LaRoche an extended run at 3B and riding out LaRoche's slumps.

Front Office needs to listen to us and not to Plaschke.

for a minute there I thought you said he "Stole Jons hart".

ok, I'm just going to count to 100...1,2,3,4,..............

He's right on that but he is dead wrong on Pierre. I mean, we can have Kemp and give Laroche the chance too!

Its SO SIMPLE.

There has to be a market for Pierre.

Even if we eat 2 mil a year for the remaining of his contract, teams should want Pierre for 7 mil a year when Aaron Rowand is probably going to get 15 mil a year.

You say it's silly to bring a power hitter to Dodger Stadium? OK, well, how about bringing a perennial Gold Glove winner to Dodger Stadium?

Again, Plashke knows nothing about sports, especially about these new-fangled statistics and theories that can disprove nearly everything he says.

even if we pay a little more (3 to 5 mill more) as long as Ethier, Jones & Kemp play together.

To justify sending 3 mil a year along with pierre, I just add 1.5 mil to each of Ethier's and Kemp's salaries. :)

If the net can be used to formulate a plot, why not a lineup?

Furcal
Martin
Loney
Jones
Kent
Kemp
Ethier
Laroche

one thing said...Pierre's OB% may be low, but he still gets on base more than most players.

make no mistake he could be a CF upgrade on many at least a few teams, therefore trade bait for some value...maybe bullpen help.

let us hope we sign Kuroda so we dont have to go sign a starter (which i dont think we need to do anyways.

and anyone In favor of getting Rolen PLEASE get real.....the thinking it could get rid of Pierre's Contract is LUDICROUS

Put Ethier, Kemp, Pierre in a platoon and it wont be long before Pierre loses playing time....and that enables us to let LaRoche take Nomars PT.

But of all the Dodgers kids last summer, Kemp was the most raw, the most difficult to coach, often the most perplexing.

Most of the Dodger coaches have left the team, as has the manager. Could an actual reporter be dispatched to call these people up and ask them what was so awful about coaching Kemp?

What did he do that was so "perplexing?" He wasn't a streaky hitter. His fielding was mostly okay. He made 2-3 running mistakes.

J.D. Drew was perplexing. Milton Bradley was perplexing. Derek Lowe is perplexing. Kemp is an open book.

As for "most raw," his numbers totally belie that. LaRoche, Young, Abreu, Meloan all look far more raw than Kemp. If the word raw in this context means, "not prepared."

Plashke writes like he uses those refrigerator magnets with random words on them. He doesn't have an accurate word, so he uses whatever is handy. His writing style is le mot faux.

C'mon Ned trade Juan Pierre,
make our dreams come true!

Hey Nate. Just voted on the outfield poll. Jones-Ethier-Kemp is still dominating the LA TIMES poll with 72% of the vote. 1000 votes are on, so that means.

720 out of 1000 people don't want Pierre in the outfield!

Two corrections

1000 votes are in not on.

so that means... (needed some more periods)

That's not true. League average OBP, adjusted for the Park Factors Pierre got this year was .347. Pierre's OBP was .331.

If you were a GM, would you pay 7 mil times four years for JP?

No lol....Kenny Williams please save us!

sometimes a percentage is overrated was my point.

basically if you get on 36% of the time for a total of say 100 times is that better than getting on 32% of the time for a total of 110. with a similar amount of PA...NOT AB's.

Wait...huh?

Paolo Aubrey Wheaton
on this day, December 6, 2007.

No, percentages arent overrated. what it means is that you can plug basically anybody in Pierre's spot in the lineup and that person will get on base more than Juan. His total numbers are so high because he had so many plate appearances, as he played in every game and hit 1st or 2nd in most of those.

If you have a higher OBP, you are going to get on base more.

Nothing personal Juan, just business.

We just need another guy on the bench who can take a walk or hit for power for when no one's on base type situation (that might be D. Young, if only for the reason that Vin thinks hes a great hitter)

UPDATE, 12-6-07 at 7:39pm: Sandy Alderson was on 1090 AM XX Sports Radio tonight. He said the Padres gave Fukudome one of the top two or three offers the team ever proposed. An answer from Fukudome is expected tonight or tomorrow.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1049325

. According to one major league source, the Orioles recently discussed Bedard with the Los Angeles Dodgers and asked for a package of prospects that included 23-year-old outfielder Matt Kemp, third baseman Andy LaRoche and 19-year-old left-hander Clayton Kershaw, the last of whom was the Dodgers' first-round pick in 2006 and reached Double A at the end of last season.

Reportedly, the Dodgers rejected Baltimore's proposal out of hand

The Royals topped the total value of the Dodgers' offer of $36.2 million, but they lacked the payroll flexibility to front-load the deal with a hefty signing bonus.

Boras didn't go for the most money!

At the MLB level: Jones, Kemp, Ethier, Pierre, Young (sort of, rookie), Repko (451 career MLB PAs)

But in the minors, what is there, Xavier Paul and Andrew Lambo, if Lambo is an OF and not a 1B?

Can the Dodgers really afford to trade an OF in a deal for pitching?

One the other hand, although I would agree that hording pitching is generally a good idea, this is an area of organizational depth. I certainly don't want to trade the Minotaur, is there a good pitcher that might be had for a reasonable set of pitching prospects (if those are not also mythical)? This doesn't bring a Santana, Bedard or Haren, of course, but Ben Sheets has been mentioned before. He's clearly a risk (22, 17, 24 starts the last three seasons) and a one-year rental ($11M for '08) - doesn't that help drive the down? I wonder what Melvin could be talked into?

279 As Ned has implied, Jones' arrival changes this dynamic, although it wouldn't make him accept that deal as is.

For us closet Kemp-lovers, the greed of the A's, Orioles and Twins is our secret joy. God help my psyche if Baltimore came back with something fair for Bedard that involved Kemp.

You guys nauseate me. My associate, the legendary Dodger Tony went on ESPN radio 710 and mentioned Juan Pierre's consecutive game streak and how we feel Joe Torre will not mess with the Gods of Baseball by interrupting it. Mr. Kamenetzky said "What 28 games?" Nice work. Juan Pierre has the longest consecutive game streak in the majors and will play 162 games again for Joe Torre (unless traded; where he will do it for others). 60 stolen bases. .333 on base % (2 points lower than your revered Furcal), .293 average, 196 hits. 37 S.O. to Furcal's 68 by the way. Here's a good one: Pierre v. Player X. Pierre .293 BA. PX: .286, Pierre 196 hits PX 179, Pierre 24 double, PX 30, Pierre 96 RunsScored PX 103, Pierre SO 37 PX 98. Pierre 64 SB, PX 50. Both play outfield in the same division. Pierre Field % .987 PX .986. Who is PLAYER X? Why it's none other than big mouth Eric Brynes, your beautiful white, blonde, blue eyed boy. Another thing, Juan Pierre, without any complaints, was forced to bat in the 2 hole for the entire season by Little, but you fans do not know what the 2 hole means do you? You don't know that the league's premiere leadoff hitter had to give himself up to the leadoff hitter, Furcal everytime up. You don't understand the difference in psychology do you? The difference in the goals. He's just batting 2nd you think, right. What an injustice to Juan Pierre. But he is old school my firends. We don't deserve him. He has a weak arm. Like we didn't know it's easier for him in a bandbox like Wrigley? A weak arm. Outrageous. So many runners are gunned down from centerfield, right? Much bigger outfield here, my friends. But you don't care. Just looking for a scapegoat aren't you? Its an obvious weakness for the amateur fan to see, so you pounce on it. How gutless. Oh, one more little thing. He is a WORLD CHAMPION - with a ring to prove it. A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP RING. Get it? Have you no decency at long last, sir AK? LONG LIVE JUAN PIERRE!

Posted by: Hollywood Dodger Mark | December 06, 2007 at 05:14 PM

At least we know that Juan Pierre reads blogs.

My thoughts exactly. LOL

Him, or Hollywood Dodger Mark.

Or Hollywood Dodger Mark IS Bill Plaschke.

At least Hollywood Mark has great taste in speeches. Joseph Welch is the man. And he played the judge in Anatomy of a Murder!

Ratt is our Fred Fisher.

Where did Byrnes go, my darling young one?

Regarding Pierre, we'll continue to tell it and think it and speak it and breath it, and reflect from the mountains so all souls can see it.

"We are not of the mind to give up three or four prospects for one player, I'll tell you that," Colletti said. To move Kemp, Colletti added, "I'd have to have a conversation where my jaw drops. It's got to be something you can't say no to. I haven't heard anything like that. In fact, teams have stopped asking."

Link me!

So which middle reliever is Juan Pierre worth? :)

or Jae Seo!

I will pray for that tonight and every night until Christmas.

Reportedly, the Dodgers rejected Baltimore's proposal out of hand.

What a ridiculous offer. 3 top 15 prospects...come on. I wouldn't trade that for ANYBODY, including Santana. I don't believe Bedard is on Santana's level at the moment, am I mistaken?

i see no reason why kemp won't be able to put up, say, a .300/.350/.525 on a regular basis.

That optimistic projection just made me smile.

beLITTLED and maligNED

Hopefully the flag Andruw will save is the pennant!

a. Pierre traded 30%
b. Kemp traded 20%
c. Ethier traded 30%
d. none of above 20%

"Sorry, you can't platoon them. You don't platoon young players who already have spent time in the major leagues. You pick one, and you give him a chance, period."

Why would the Dodgers not take advantage of the Jones signing to move Pierre? Does Plaschke really think that sacrifice bunts are that important? When the guy hitting next hits a homerun approximately once every four games? I mean, I get the fascination with stolen bases (I like those too), but since the base most likely to be stolen is second, that just means the guy hits a lot of singles. But really, does he think that Pierre is honestly more valuable than Ethier or Kemp?

Really?

Or that only Pierre has this skill?

I've seen most of the Dodgers bunt one time or another.

Pierre bunting for base hits -- now that's something he does that I got a kick out of. I saw him bunt for a couple of doubles. Entertaining stuff. But that's not a good enough reason to keep somebody around.

http://tinyurl.com/yqyrbj

That should read "LaRoche's power allows them to give Andy LaRoche a long-awaited chance to win the job at third base"

Note to Eric Enders:

Firefox, yada yada blah blah

Signed, JS

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/685060,deluca120607.article

Furcal
Martin
Kemp
Loney
Jones
Kent
Ethier
Laroche

than:

Furcal
Pierre
Loney
Kent
Jones
Martin
Ethier
Laroche

I mean, it's not even close.

And, by the way, I was the first Sam. In the beginning, I was just Sam but then Sam DC showed up and screwed everything up.

Does Sam PHL work here: http://tinyurl.com/3bmsky ?

Or is that the wrong direction?

(Except Vishal, of course.)

I'm just teasing. And your appearance gave me the opportunity to explain, in part, why I can be combative. You people don't know what it's like out here! It's like a jungle! Except with bankers and lawyers!

I love this Sam-chat. Just between us Sams, I really think we should be the only ones to post here.

We can have out meetings here: http://tinyurl.com/2dw5yw

And get styled here: http://tinyurl.com/2yqvfa

Unfortuntately, this name is already taken: http://tinyurl.com/jkrls

I have hardly requested Colletti to do anything here in his tenure. This is a must-move.

At this point, it doesn't matter.

Juan Pierre and cash in exchange for the White Sox taking Juan Pierre and cash.

Even though I value SB more than most here, it's not worth the hit the Dodger's took defensively.

I just hope Jones doesn't turn into another Schmidt. Which I still beleive is possible. Or maybe he'll hit for more power with his good buddy Kent hitting behind him.

356 Thanks for playing, although I think Nick Masset is out of options, and iirc he can start too. I like him more than Sisco. Gio Gonzalez would work too.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/12/07/Rays/Rays_taking_patient_a.shtml

Jones wouldn't turn into another Schmidt - just maybe another Nomar, worst-case scenario.

This would allow the outfield to thrive with Kemp starting and ease Colletti's mind by adding another starting pitcher.

Preferably Contreras over Crede so we don't see LaRoche get the Loney treatment.