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He's No 19-Year-Old Anymore
2008-03-19 06:33
by Jon Weisman

Happy birthday, phenom ...

* * *

Remember me mentioning the Kilimanjaro Climb for Clean Water? The climb itself began Tuesday. My friend Brax Cutchin and his college roommate Marc Schiller have raised more than $30,000, enough to provide clean water for more than 1,500 people for at least 20 years. Donations are still welcome.

* * *

From Rob Neyer at

I would say that the last paragraph of yesterday's Cardboard Gods is the best thing you'll read this month, except I already said (or could have said) the same thing about last Friday's entire edition. So instead let me say this ... I have an editor at Simon & Schuster. I told him about Cardboard Gods. I have an agent at William Morris. I told him about Cardboard Gods. Smart young fellows, both of them. They had their chance. If somebody doesn't give Cardboard Gods a bigger audience, and soon, I'm going to sell my dog and do it myself.

Comments (356)
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2008-03-19 07:29:42
1.   Disabled List
Yet another great "20th Anniversary of 1988" moment to celebrate!
2008-03-19 07:33:16
2.   JoeyP
Back to the 40-man roster discussion:

Cant the Dodgers put Schmidt/LaRoche both on the 60-day DL in order to open up 2 roster spots for NRI's if need be?

2008-03-19 07:46:52
3.   ToyCannon
LaRoche was only going to miss 6-8 weeks from the time of surgery so I don't think he qualifies for the 60 Day DL.

Jason on the other hand...

2008-03-19 07:48:12
4.   Suffering Bruin
Have the Dodgers ever had a prospect that generated this much excitement? I don't think so but then again it is early in the morning and I am on Spring break.

What the hey, I'll try to remember a few.

Greg Brock--discussed a lot, yes, but more because he had 44 homers in Albuquerque and Garvey was on his way out. I don't remember people being as excited about him as they are now about Kershaw.

Fernando--didn't generate excitement until he wore the big uni.

Piazza--see above.

Maybe it's early but that's all I can think of for now.

2008-03-19 07:49:09
5.   ToyCannon
I miss having a teen age phenom. They grow up so fast.
2008-03-19 07:50:45
6.   ToyCannon
Sid Fernandez had everything.
The Name
The Girth
The Arm
So we traded him.
2008-03-19 07:52:13
7.   Penarol1916
I remember Konerko getting a lot of hype in the press before he came up and everyone being very disappointed in his early performance, but this is when I was following the Dodgers via day-old USA Today's in Perth, so I may be wrong.
2008-03-19 07:55:40
8.   ToyCannon
Edwin Jackson was getting tons of ink coming into the 2004 season after the 2003 debut. Number one pitching prospect in baseball at the time.
20 years old
Had beaten Randy Johnson on his 20th birthday
He was going to be Dynamite, instead he imploded.
2008-03-19 08:01:48
9.   ToyCannon
Mike Marshall
Huge man
Power to all fields
Crushed minor league pitching-didn't have an OPS below 900 starting at age 18
2008-03-19 08:05:17
10.   ToyCannon
Good to see Josh getting his props from Rob.
2008-03-19 08:21:47
11.   madmac
Billy Ashley was getting pumped pretty hard. A lot of it had to do with 4 previous ROY's before him. Don't think he would have qualified as a rookie since he had to many Ab's though.
2008-03-19 08:24:28
12.   ibleedbloo
4 I remember Billy Ashley being the next can't miss for a few years. This was in the days before YouTube and the Blogging community was no where is what it is now. For the resources of the time, I remember him getting a lot of coverage.

I also agree with Edwin Jackson. However, I don't recall him getting a ton of press until after he made his debut in the bigs. I think Edwin started getting the pub after the ESPNs of the world saw him in action.

2008-03-19 08:24:57
13.   ibleedbloo
11 Se what i get for not refreshing more often.
2008-03-19 08:28:59
14.   ibleedbloo
13 And not spell checking it would seem...
2008-03-19 08:29:45
15.   regfairfield
The two biggest can't misss prospects of my youth were Karim Garcia and Paul Konerko.
2008-03-19 08:30:08
16.   madmac
I think maybe the excitement for Kershaw and Jackson are similar, but I think maybe there is more confidence that Kershaw will come close to living up to the hype. The way he has handled everything just makes you believe he'll be fine.
2008-03-19 08:31:04
17.   Suffering Bruin
I have been saying what Rob Neyer has been saying for a long time.

I'm fine with publishers not signing Josh for the selfish reason I get to read him for free. I can say that about a lot of people on the net but with Wilker, his talent is so evident... well, if I were a publisher, I'd call him. Soon.

2008-03-19 08:33:08
18.   fanerman
15 Konerko for Shaw. When I was a kid when that trade was made, I didn't think it was all that bad. Of course that was a long long time ago.

regfairfield, I tried sending you an email about MLB08, but it bounced. There's more at the TrueBlueLA comments section.

2008-03-19 08:33:55
19.   regfairfield
18 Interesting, I'm getting E-Mails right now. That shouldn't happen.
2008-03-19 08:36:15
20.   madmac
Konerko seemed to be a victim of Albuquerque. Guys put up great numbers that didn't seem to translate when they moved up. Whether that was true, it seemed to be the thinking. Dodgers needed a closer and weren't convinced Konerko was the real deal. Atleast that's what I recall at the time.
2008-03-19 08:37:31
21.   JoeyP
3--Has LaRoche actually had the surgery yet?
2008-03-19 08:38:25
22.   fanerman
19 It said that your email address failed with text "recipient does not have an account."

I forwarded it again.

2008-03-19 08:38:58
23.   madmac
20 see Billy Ashley
2008-03-19 08:39:40
24.   old dodger fan
There was no internet back in the early 80's but I recall a few folks being pretty excited about Orel.
2008-03-19 08:42:52
25.   cargill06
21 yes.
2008-03-19 08:44:23
26.   regfairfield
23 Isn't it bizzare to anyone else that the front office didn't realize Ashley was older and struck out a heck of a lot more than Konerko? Or do I actually know more about projecting prospects than the front office did in the late ninties.
2008-03-19 08:46:53
27.   madmac
26 you probably know more now then they did then.
2008-03-19 08:48:19
28.   Indiana Jon
9 Mike Marshall was so big that I remember hearing his name as a young kid when he was at Albuquerque. Not so strange except that I was hearing it in Indiana, pre-internet, and I was only about 10 years old. Didn't he win the Triple Crown that year? I saw him in Vero Beach in the spring of 1982. The fans were already cheering "Moose" constantly whenever he took the field or batted. He was the first autograph my dad had me get. Sax was the second.
2008-03-19 08:49:57
29.   Jim Hitchcock
So overkill94 is Karl Hungus?
2008-03-19 08:50:57
30.   regfairfield
Looking at it, Delwyn Young's last year looks pretty Billy Ashley-esque, just two years older. Young didn't strike out quite as much, but the general guady stats with a bad strikeout to walk ratio in a hitters park pattern is there.
2008-03-19 08:55:18
31.   ImprobableImpossible
I prefer Josh being a secret of sorts.

He's like our own Cyclops to go with the Minotaur.

2008-03-19 08:56:29
32.   Daniel Zappala
4 As I read that, I actually thought ... Greg Brock? Huh? Our Greg Brock? And then I remembered ...... Oh. That one.
2008-03-19 08:57:31
33.   underdog
21 "Has LaRoche actually had the surgery yet?

Had the surgery ten days ago.

I have to say, even though I knew a lot less then about baseball scouting and all that than I do now (whatever that's saying), even then I knew Billy Ashley was overrated. He was a terrible fielder and when I saw him he looked like someone who could club the ball far and deep, or strike out, and not much else. He was like a very poor man's Adam Dunn, and I never quite understood where all the hype came from. Of course, I did think Brock and Stubbs would be great. Having seen him hit and seen Young hit, while there's some imperfections with Young, he is a much better all around hitter.

2008-03-19 09:13:43
34.   ToyCannon
Of them all I think Mike Marshall would have lived up to the hype without the physical ailments. I had forgotten how good the 1985 team was until I did some Orel research. No wonder we were ticked off the way that season ended. What a starting pitching staff, and it could have had El Sid.
2008-03-19 09:16:09
35.   underdog
I guess I'm not the only angry he can't get ESPNU, that Comcast and ESPN can't work out some sort of agreement once and for all:

Guess I'll be missing a bunch of NIT games.

2008-03-19 09:20:11
36.   Eric Stephen
I remember the Dodgers losing a game in Pittsburgh when an RBI single hit Ashley in the mouth. Dark days.
2008-03-19 09:22:35
37.   ToyCannon

StrikeOuts PlateApp Rate
Ryan Howard
145 559 3.85
151 540 3.57
166 535 3.22
166 544 3.27

Billy Ashley
152 497 3.26
143 517 3.61
116 441 3.80

Ashley by the time he hit AAA at age 23 had improved his K rate and walk rate while Ryan Howard was going in the opposite direction.

I think the Dodgers did Ashley a disservice by bringing him up to the majors at age 21. He had holes in his swing and it is possible if they had let him accumulate at bats like Howard did in the low minors he would have become something. His power for a right handed bat was Frank Howard like.

2008-03-19 09:25:00
38.   regfairfield
Ryan Howard is a notable exception to my "striking out a lot in the minors leads to failure in the majors" theory.
2008-03-19 09:28:52
39.   madmac
Countless attempts have been made over the years to try to pinpoint Ichiro's prowess, but Dr. Kenichiro Mogi may have trumped all explanations. "Ichiro," he says with confidence, "has a very fine prefrontal cortex." Well, Mogi should know. He's a celebrity brain scientist in Japan. More to the point, he also co-hosts a TV show loosely translated as "Secrets of the Ultimate Professional," a popular weekly documentary series focusing on the methodology that has allowed certain individuals to reach the pinnacles of their trades. After two years and 72 episodes, the program in January featured an athlete for the first time. That "ultimate professional" was Ichiro
2008-03-19 09:28:53
40.   Eric Stephen
I feel bad for Mike Marshall, partly because he's not even the most well known/regarded Mike Marshall in Dodger history. The outfielding Marshall had a pretty good Dodger career, putting together seven above average seasons in a row for LA. His OPS+ as a Dodger was 117 in over 3,500 PA, so I'd say that was pretty successful. Plus, he dated a GoGo!

I would say Marshall and Kershaw are comparable in terms of hype. Would we accept a 117 ERA+ from Kershaw in his first seven full seasons (all above average), or is that not enough? Part of the allure of such a great prospect is that the ceiling is so high, of course, but I'd like to think we could live with at least a Marshall-like beginning to Clayton's career.

2008-03-19 09:33:06
41.   Bob Timmermann
Old-time style players strike going on in Fort Myers.
2008-03-19 09:33:39
42.   cargill06
how about this one, jack cust walked/hbp 147 times in 591 PA in AAA 2006, with 0 IBB. If he got 0 hits that year, his OBP would still be .249 that season.
2008-03-19 09:34:53
43.   Peanuts in My Shoes
Apparently the Red Sox are threatening to boycott the Japan trip because coaches and staff are not being paid for the trip. They even refused to take the field for today's game against the Jays:
2008-03-19 09:34:54
44.   Eric Stephen
Were the Dodgers' coaches and staff paid the same $40,000 stipend to go to China as the players? The Red Sox players are not happy that their staff are not getting paid a stipend.

2008-03-19 09:35:52
45.   Bob Timmermann
43 44
2008-03-19 09:36:01
46.   Eric Stephen
Peanuts in My Shoes, and Egg on My Face. Of course The Griddle gets the story first!
2008-03-19 09:37:36
47.   fanerman
regfairfield, did you get the second email I sent?
2008-03-19 09:38:09
48.   El Lay Dave
29 Not the one posting on Tony Jackson's blog.
2008-03-19 09:38:33
49.   regfairfield
42 Jack also works because he walks so much that he can still be useful if he hits .220.

I'm also betting that he hits .220ish this year.

2008-03-19 09:39:09
50.   Eric Stephen
Also per Rob Neyer, a cool look at Matt Kemp's bat speed:

From that link: "The talent Kemp has is undeniable. If he learns the mental aspects of the game instead of relying solely on talent and improves his plate discipline just a little, he can be a top-10 player in this league."

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2008-03-19 09:40:10
51.   Suffering Bruin
Hey, anybody hear about a strike going on involving Boston?


2008-03-19 09:42:25
52.   Kevin Lewis
Is that 40K per person?

Man that is a ridiculous amount of money for a two game trip. I'll go for 10K to be the bag boy.

2008-03-19 09:43:22
53.   Eric Stephen
Gotta love ESPN. On their front page, in the breaking news area, there's a Red Sox logo with the headline "International Incident?" A tad bit of hyperbole, no?
2008-03-19 09:44:23
54.   Eric Stephen
I'm pretty sure the Dodgers' players (at least) got $40k as well. Not sure about the staff.
2008-03-19 09:45:13
55.   Hythloday
53 It would be hyperbole if it were the Dodgers, but this is Red Sox that we're talking about for god's sake.
2008-03-19 09:48:38
56.   Kevin Lewis

I know they make tons of money already, but this highlights the absurdity of salaries for me. I know the owners make a ton, and the players and staff deserve their share, but that is more than a lot of people in America make in one year.

2008-03-19 09:48:49
57.   ToyCannon
That is some nice cash for players like Lindsey and Kevin Howard who will never get a major league at bat.
2008-03-19 09:49:06
58.   Kevin Lewis
Okay, I'll go for 5K
2008-03-19 09:49:43
59.   ToyCannon
Good Hookers aren't cheap, just ask our Governors.
2008-03-19 09:55:37
60.   madmac
Good Hookers? is that an oxymoron
2008-03-19 09:56:46
61.   berkowit28
44 That would be interesting to find out (Dodgers and Padres coaches and staff receiving extra for China trip). For that matter, quite possibly even the players did not receive any extra stipend, so why should the coaches or staff? In this case, almost every player was NRI and would not have been able to strike or object.

Even Matt Kemp, quasi-rookie, has to watch his mouth, and Andruw Jones only arrived yesterday, hardly a Dodger yet. Might have been different if Nomar was going, but not much. The whole thing was just an exhibition game. Red Sox and A's games are part of the regular season. Still, it would be interesting to know if anyone got extra pay.
2008-03-19 09:57:02
62.   Marty
I remember Willie Crawford getting hyped a lot. He was my biggest Dodger disappointment in the 60's.
2008-03-19 09:57:33
63.   Eric Stephen
I think a better Red Sox boycott would be if their fans would vow silence a la Amazing Grace and Chuck.

Alex English's performance in that movie narrowly beat Ray Allen ("He Got Game") for 2nd best active NBA acting performance. Kareem's "Roger Murdock" in Airplane is an easy winner here.

Shaq may get a lifetime achievement award for his vast catalog of work.

2008-03-19 09:58:37
64.   Eric Stephen
Willie Crawford was in Marshall territory, with a 118 OPS+ in just over 3,000 PA.
2008-03-19 09:59:02
65.   cargill06
i don't think the players are complaining about the money they're recieving. they're complaining that the coaching staff was promised 40k to make the trip and now they're not recieving it.
2008-03-19 10:00:05
66.   Peanuts in My Shoes
45 Whatever, Bob. Thanks for jumping the gun undermining my deep-probing investigative journalism.
2008-03-19 10:00:22
67.   Marty
If I were them, I'd insist on getting paid in Yen right now.
2008-03-19 10:00:57
68.   cargill06
65 should've read 44
2008-03-19 10:01:45
69.   Eric Stephen
Apparently the players for the China trip received $3,000.

"The players who go also receive a check for $3,000 — in addition to a visit to the Great Wall, a tour of Beijing and some wonderful Chinese food that may look a whole lot different than that Chinese takeout around the corner in the U.S."

Then again, Gary Thorne has lied to us before.

2008-03-19 10:01:51
70.   Marty
64 Well, that seems apt since Marshall is one of my all-time least favorite Dodgers.
2008-03-19 10:02:12
71.   ToyCannon
Did he get the same kind of press that Strawberry got when he was playing high school ball?

Willie never lived up to the hype but I always liked him and he did have some decent years.

2008-03-19 10:03:04
72.   Peanuts in My Shoes
69 : Ahem, or read 43 .
2008-03-19 10:05:46
73.   Marty
71 I actually don't have any memory of him in high school. I just remember it seemed like I always heard how he was a "hundred thousand dollar bonus baby". And in my pre-teen mind a hundred grand seemed like all the money in the world so I expected him to be Willie Mays.
2008-03-19 10:07:54
74.   Jon Weisman
Farewell, Ivan Dixon.
2008-03-19 10:10:22
75.   neuroboy002
52 I feel for that statement. My co-workers help take care of the terminally ill and make ~18K a year, without taking taxes into account Reading how players somehow "earn" this stipend over the course of a week is ludicrous to me. I realize playing baseball is difficult.... but it just doesn't sit well.

Reminds me of when Latrell Sprewell was demanding a new deal from The Timberwolves because he "had a family to feed." He was making almost 15 million that year.

2008-03-19 10:14:33
76.   Eric Stephen
But the players in this case are fighting for the underdog, so to speak. They are going to be paid their $40k no matter what (and they did "earn" it by capitalizing on their rare talent), but they are demanding--and claim they were promised that--the coaches and staffers making the trip also get the $40k, which will be a much bigger deal to those people.
2008-03-19 10:17:26
77.   bhsportsguy
74 One of my favorite Dixon roles was when he played a boxer in a Twilight Zone episode.
2008-03-19 10:18:06
78.   Jon Weisman
You know, they usually split up the Pac-10 games in March Madness, but if I read correctly, they've put five Pac-10 games on Thursday and one on Friday.
2008-03-19 10:18:30
79.   Jon Weisman
77 - That is my favorite role of his.
2008-03-19 10:20:35
80.   Eric Stephen
And, according to my bracket, 5 on Saturday and 1 on Sunday as well! :)
2008-03-19 10:21:21
81.   Disabled List
When I used to travel as part of my job, I was given a $65 per diem. I can't imagine what I would do with $40,000 stipend for three days.
2008-03-19 10:22:46
82.   Eric Stephen
I feel bad for having no idea who Ivan Dixon was.
2008-03-19 10:25:44
83.   madmac
78 they really wanted to showcase the Oregon game :)
2008-03-19 10:26:19
84.   Bob Timmermann
Marty, the people in the know say "reminbi" instead of "yen."

They may also spell "reminbi" correctly. I can't guarantee that.

2008-03-19 10:26:32
85.   berkowit28
Catfish Stew (A's blog) is passing on this link claiming the dispute is over (well, anyone ought to be able to check if the Red Sox game against the Blue Jays has indeed begun).

2008-03-19 10:27:52
86.   Kevin Lewis

A lot of takeout?

2008-03-19 10:29:30
87.   bhsportsguy
79 82

You have got to believe or it won't be so. Something to think about as the season is about to begin.

2008-03-19 10:30:33
88.   bhsportsguy
81 It's more than 3 days, I think it was all part of this trip including the stopover in LA that was the reason for the stipend.
2008-03-19 10:33:15
89.   Eric Stephen
In 2007, the MLB per diem was $85 per day on the road.
2008-03-19 10:33:31
90.   Disabled List
In reporting the Red Sox strike, Catfish Stew notes that the Sox "will be playing the part of the Harlem Globetrotters to Oakland's role as the Washington Generals in the upcoming opening series in Japan." That analogy is so good, I'm irritated that I didn't think of it first.

I would also like to point out that several thousand fans - many, if not most of whom paid a lot of money to travel to Florida to see the Sox play - are being screwed out of a major portion of their spring training experience because certain coaches and staff members won't be getting paid an EXTRA FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS to do what they would otherwise normally be doing, except for sitting on a chartered plane a few hours longer than usual.

2008-03-19 10:35:20
91.   bhsportsguy
90 Ummm, I get your point but they are playing right now.
2008-03-19 10:36:03
92.   Lexinthedena
So my first child was born last night at 10:25pm....a girl...6 pounds 11 ounces...
2008-03-19 10:37:36
93.   Eric Stephen
Congrats! The world welcomes another Dodger fan.
2008-03-19 10:38:02
94.   Jon Weisman
92 - Hey, congrats! We're still on the clock.
2008-03-19 10:38:06
95.   Disabled List
91 Nevermind then.

92 Congrats!

2008-03-19 10:38:35
96.   Kevin Lewis
2008-03-19 10:38:49
97.   fanerman
92 Congratulations!
2008-03-19 10:39:07
98.   cargill06
92 congrats, one love.
2008-03-19 10:39:26
99.   bhsportsguy
Not to turn this into Twilight Zone talk but that was another show that featured great writing (usually Rod Serling) and often topics not seen on television (Race relations, Genocide, perceptions of age and beauty). It had actors playing against type, Jonathan Winters playing a pool champion ala Jackie Gleason, Jack Klugman had some great roles. Even William Shatner was really good in one of the classic episodes. And who could forget Art Carney's promises to the meek.

A show like that today would not go on the air (no regular cast, dark subject matter, etc.) but it was something that a young kid in LA loved to watch on Channel 5.

2008-03-19 10:40:40
100.   bhsportsguy
92 So is it now, "Lex+1inthedena", happy thoughts and wishes to you and your family.
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2008-03-19 10:40:44
101.   Xeifrank
My guess is that $3K in China is pretty equivalent to $40K in Japan if it some kind of per diem for buying stuff while you are there. Everything in China is dirt cheap, and from what I hear everything in Japan is very expensive (Bob?). For example, a beer at a restaraunt in China is 25-30 cents. We bought a carry on suitcase in Beijing for the equivalent of $4 US dollars, probably would've cost atleast 10 times that here. I bought a mini led flashlight, the kind you can pick up at Home Depot for $1 dollar in China, they run for about $8 here. I could go on, but you get the point.

vr, Xei

2008-03-19 10:41:29
102.   Lexinthedena
94 What was your due date?
2008-03-19 10:41:33
103.   Jon Weisman
By the way, though it's taking me forever to watch, I've really enjoyed "Black Magic" on ESPN. Anyone else watching?
2008-03-19 10:41:52
104.   underdog
I can't imagine a better Ivan Dixon role than that in "Nothing But a Man" - an early "indie" classic.

And congrats, Lex! She may be a girl but hopefully you'll adorn her room with Dodger blue. None of this pink stuff. ;-)

2008-03-19 10:42:47
105.   Jon Weisman
99 - Other than the fact that anthologies are deadly on TV today, the show could go on the air - at least on cable.
2008-03-19 10:43:15
106.   Marty
Nice work Lex. Altadena needs more Dodger fans!
2008-03-19 10:43:28
107.   Jon Weisman
102 - It's Friday, but it's been a tough final month so it feels like it's late.
2008-03-19 10:43:40
108.   Xeifrank
92. They grow up fast, enjoy every moment. Take lots of pictures/videos and hopefully find somebody that can help with the late night feedings so you can get some sleep.
Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy, Love, Love, Love!!!

vr, Xei

2008-03-19 10:44:38
109.   madmac
92 congrats
2008-03-19 10:44:47
110.   Xeifrank
107. So I imagine you won't be going to the game at the Colliseum?
vr, Xei
2008-03-19 10:45:28
111.   Lexinthedena
I happen to get off work early on the 31st, and I'll be home just in time for the Dodgers first game of '08...I can't wait to hold the baby on my lap and watch some Dodger baseball while Vin serenates my baby girl.
2008-03-19 10:45:39
112.   DXMachina
82 He played "Kinch" on Hogan's Heroes.

92 Congrats! Get that kid a glove.

2008-03-19 10:45:40
113.   bhsportsguy
94 I just picture Barry Corbin chomping a cigar and bellowing "Take us to Defcon 2."
2008-03-19 10:47:53
114.   Eric Stephen
I watched "Black Magic", and really enjoyed it. The old footage, especially of Earl the Pearl, was fantastic. And I had never heard of John McLendon or Ben Jobe before so that was pretty cool.

Oh yeah, and George Steinbrenner proved he's not just an ass in baseball.

2008-03-19 10:49:15
115.   Lexinthedena
107 Yes, we were a little late, bu the last month felt like forever...Now It's all surreal....Still can't believe it.

106 Hey Marty, I took the pregnant Lady to Bill's chicken the other day, it was pretty good....I wanted to check out that place on Fair Oaks you told me about, but forgot what it was called, and the cross street....fill me in!

2008-03-19 10:52:30
116.   Jon Weisman
110 - Still on the books. My mom's supposed to come over to help at the house that night. And we also have help on March 31 - Opening Day.

After that, you might not see me in public for quite some time.

2008-03-19 10:52:36
117.   Marty
Beans BBQ. One block south of Woodbury on the east side of the street. I guess the cross street would be Montana.
2008-03-19 10:55:23
118.   delias man
They also have exhibition games vs. Japanese teams before the A's. Maybe that was part of the issue.
2008-03-19 10:58:27
119.   Xeifrank
116. Are we having a DT meet up somewhere before the game?

vr, Xei

2008-03-19 11:01:05
120.   Bob Timmermann
Japan is not a cheap country to visit. Accommodation costs are high if you want a room as nice as the ones in "Lost in Translation.".

I've stayed in some mighty small rooms. But not the capsule hotels. Those are for drunken businessmen who missed the last train.

2008-03-19 11:03:19
121.   Dodgers49
69 Apparently the players for the China trip received $3,000.

I read somewhere before the Dodgers left for China that each player would receive $40,000.00 for the trip so I suspect the $3,000.00 is just per diem to cover them while they were there. I'm going to search the archives to see if I can find where that $40,000.00 was mentioned.

2008-03-19 11:08:41
122.   Jon Weisman
Whoops - just got an update. Looks like we're inducing labor tomorrow morning. Guess it won't matter that the Stanford game isn't televised.
2008-03-19 11:09:08
123.   Gen3Blue
I seem to remember in an era when prospect talk was much harder to come by, Kiki Jones started out with quite a bit of hype.

Renminbi. Pretty hard on the western tongue.

2008-03-19 11:09:28
124.   Jon Weisman
119 - I don't think I'll have that much leeway, but you all should try to meet.
2008-03-19 11:12:23
125.   Eric Stephen
You should see if you can order the DirecTV March Madness package for the hospital. :)
2008-03-19 11:13:46
126.   Eric Stephen
I thought I read the $40k thing for the Dodgers as well, but I couldn't find the reference this morning.
2008-03-19 11:14:21
127.   Bluebleeder87
92 felicidades!!
2008-03-19 11:16:59
128.   Marty
Good Luck Jon!
2008-03-19 11:18:38
129.   Lexinthedena
124 We did the induction as well...Best of luck to you!

Thanks for the love everyone, now I'm off to bust us outta this hospital....

2008-03-19 11:19:38
130.   fiddlestick
When I was but a wee lad, messers Topps, Fleer, Donruss, Score and Beckett were my main sources for which prospects were hot prospects.
2008-03-19 11:21:45
131.   cargill06
119 it's always fun when you only talk to people on the phone or just hear them on the radio than you get that inital shock when you acutally see what that person looks like.
jon was already runied when i saw a picture of him on a article. i pictured a taller guy in his 60's grey hair, grey beard, with glasses and a little heavy set. i was obviously a little off. maybe jon can create a DT page so i can see the fellow members.
2008-03-19 11:21:59
132.   Xeifrank
Now that Depodesta is gone, do the Dodgers have anyone in the front office that would be even closesly considered a "stathead" type person. The FriarForecast blog is putting together a list of all the teams and anyone in their front office that fits the bill. Of course, "stathead" is not the proper terminology. Chris Long the Padres Quantitative Analyst has opined that he figures only 1/3 of the teams have a "hard" stat person and another 1/3 a "soft" stat person and another 1/3 that don't put much emphasis on the new fangled technology/stats. My guess is that the Dodgers probably fall into that latter 1/3, but I don't really know for sure. Thoughts?
vr, Xei
2008-03-19 11:22:06
133.   DXMachina
Good luck, Mrs. Jon!
2008-03-19 11:22:15
134.   cargill06
maybe jon can create a DT page so i can see the fellow members.

i meant to say page.

2008-03-19 11:23:43
135.   cargill06
132 i would agree with you.
2008-03-19 11:23:51
136.   bhsportsguy
122 On the first day of Spring.
Other notables born on March 20th:

Kathy Ireland (45); Holly Hunter (50); Spike Lee (51); William Hurt (57); Bobby Orr (60); Pat Riley (63)

2008-03-19 11:25:47
137.   bhsportsguy
134 I think some of us enjoy the anonymity of the web. That said, I have enjoyed meeting several folks on DT.
2008-03-19 11:26:51
138.   fanerman
"i pictured a taller guy in his 60's grey hair, grey beard, with glasses and a little heavy set."

I LOLed.

2008-03-19 11:26:52
139.   Eric Stephen
There's always this batch of photos from ToyCannon from the 2007 DT Day at Dodger Stadium.

2008-03-19 11:29:08
140.   Xeifrank
Yeah, I don't want the stalkers to know what I look like. Or that drunk guy who came online after the Dodgers were elimiated from the playoffs and threatened to beat me up. vr, Xei
2008-03-19 11:29:38
141.   madmac
137 stalking is much easier when we know what you look like
2008-03-19 11:30:54
142.   madmac
30 seconds no less
2008-03-19 11:32:38
143.   sporky
92 Congratulations!!

122 Good luck!!

2008-03-19 11:33:30
144.   Jim Hitchcock
122 Jon & Lex, you are lucky men.
2008-03-19 11:35:17
145.   Jon Weisman
138 - My writing is phat and/or fat.
2008-03-19 11:36:31
146.   Bluebleeder87
best wishes Jon...
2008-03-19 11:38:08
147.   Eric Enders
Also born on March 20: Joe McGinnity, he of the 28-8 record for the 1900 pennant-winning Dodgers. (Or Superbas, actually.)
2008-03-19 11:39:41
148.   jasonungar07
92 stoked! it's so much fun, mine was 4 months yesterday. good luck..for me i just think like a jedi and it all works out.
2008-03-19 11:39:53
149.   Kevin Lewis
I am saving up for another DT day at the stadium this year. I was bummed I missed out on last year, and I look forward to meeting people. Maybe I can bring my son to the game too! Unless we make it adults only (I would understand)
2008-03-19 11:40:42
150.   underdog
I'm a short, white furry guy with a big black nose and red tights. Sometimes with blue cape. Sometimes speak in rhyme. Very loyal. No need to see my picture.
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2008-03-19 11:40:44
151.   cargill06
139 branch rickey looks like a 7 handicap.
2008-03-19 11:41:18
152.   bhsportsguy
Will Carroll expresses his opinion on the Dodger Front Office (not one I agree with but then would you expect me to)

Mike (NYC): I drafted Andy LaRoche late in an NL only league only to find out his hand is in a caste. What kind of season can we expect of him?

Will Carroll: Not much. The Dodgers won't have him back until late May at best and by then, they'll likely have someone new blocking him. I don't understand this organization, other than the concept that we can't get a solid read on who the real decision maker is on any given decision.

My opinion is that this year more than ever, the lines of responsibility are this, Ned and his staff have gathered the 30 or so guys left in camp (not counting the NRI catchers and pitchers, who are there just to conserve the regular players) and Joe and his staff will now whittle that down to his active roster.

After that, playing time and pitching staff usage will rest with Joe.

Ned has shown, perhaps reluctantly, but in the end, if someone is not being used, he will be gotten rid of.

Will Carroll expresses an opinion not dissimilar to many from the outside, if playing for now, why not trade prospects for guys like Miggy and Santana, if they are playing the kids, why bring in vets on their downside to hamper their development. Its this strange hybrid that they can't get a handle on.

2008-03-19 11:42:50
153.   Eric Stephen
There's no reason your son would not be welcome. The more the merrier! It's just one more person for Suffering Bruin to high five after Kemp hits a bomb.
2008-03-19 11:44:09
154.   Eric Enders
152 "I drafted Andy LaRoche late in an NL only league only to find out his hand is in a caste."

At first I thought "misspelling." And then I realized that no, it actually applies, and not just to his hand.

2008-03-19 11:44:48
155.   fanerman
150 I have seen underdog in person and can testify that he does indeed look and talk like that in real life.
2008-03-19 11:45:07
156.   bhsportsguy
154 Funny.
153 The site and personal gatherings are both kid friendly, per JW.
2008-03-19 11:48:43
157.   Bob Timmermann
Suffering Bruin tried to find me at work one day, but I was off. The woman at the Info Desk told me, "I didn't know you had any male friends who were good looking."

People popped out of offices to take a look at him I was told.

2008-03-19 11:51:17
158.   Jon Weisman
157 - Dodger Thoughts Sexiest Man Alive competition?
2008-03-19 11:53:34
159.   Bob Timmermann
The only other male visitor to the library who has elicited a similar reaction from women was Ed Begley Jr.
2008-03-19 11:55:43
160.   Jon Weisman
"Nomar is back in LA today to get his hand checked, as it's still not feeling 100 percent. Hopefully we'll have more news on that later today."

2008-03-19 11:56:23
161.   bhsportsguy
158 Taking myself out of the competition. I can think of 3 DTers who could qualify.

But then who would be the judge?

2008-03-19 11:58:25
162.   cargill06
Brandon (Burbank): Is Clayton Kershaw more comparable to; Jesus or Muhammed Ali?

Jim Callis: (2:47 PM ET ) I was thinking more Gandhi.

2008-03-19 11:58:47
163.   bhsportsguy
For tomorrow on CBS in LA area:

9:25 AM - Portland State versus Kansas

11:30 AM - Kentucky versus Marquette

4:10 PM - Kansas State versus USC

6:40 PM - Mississippi Valley State versus UCLA


9:25 AM - Gonzaga versus Davidson

11:45 AM - University of San Diego versus Connecticut

4:25 PM - Oregon versus Mississippi State

6:30 PM - Arkansas versus Indiana

2008-03-19 11:58:49
164.   Eric Stephen
The health of the infield is less than stellar right now! Hu's chances of making the opening day roster seem decent with Nomar, Kent, and Abreu fighting injuries.
2008-03-19 11:59:22
165.   cargill06
161 i have no problem judging men, my gf always gets a little quirked when i say so and so is a good looking dude.
2008-03-19 12:00:43
166.   Eric Enders
Ken Pomeroy's computer gives UCLA a 78% chance of making the Sweet 16, 44% of making the Final Four, and 13% of winning the whole shebang. They are the third-most-likely team to win the title, after Kansas and Memphis.

Stanford has a 54 percent chance of making the Sweet 16, but only a 27 percent chance of making it past the Longhorns, and a 1.46 percent chance to win the championship.

Mississippi Valley State has a 1 in 600 trillion chance to win it all.

2008-03-19 12:07:31
167.   blue22
163 - 4:10 PM - Kansas State versus USC

I've got K-State over SC. Who's with me?

2008-03-19 12:07:59
168.   Eric Enders
Not I.
2008-03-19 12:13:13
169.   bhsportsguy
167 I am sure USC will play their triangle and two defense on K-State. USC won some games on the road this year (Pauley, Arizona, Oregon) so playing at a site where K-State should have the crowd should not bother them.

However, USC has not done well generally if Mayo goes off on his own, the key will be for others to get involved, it comes down to a Beasley vs. Mayo game, watch out.

2008-03-19 12:16:32
170.   madmac
who was it that mentioned they had the good, the bad, and the ugly ringtone yesterday. Was that you underdog?
2008-03-19 12:17:41
171.   underdog
152 I know we've had this discussion before, but Will Carroll's opinions of the Dodgers seem really tainted by some weird vendetta he seems to have. I mean he goes above and beyond any rational discussion/criticism we may have and in the past has said some things that were downright odd - including Chad Billingsley, I recall. You almost get the feeling from his comments cited above that he thinks the Dodgers deliberately broke LaRoche's thumb so they could keep him out of action. I mean what are they, The Pope of Greenwich Village?
2008-03-19 12:17:46
172.   madmac
Oregon went on the road and beat K-State.
2008-03-19 12:18:24
173.   underdog
170 Yepper, that was me! I never get tired of that one. Had the Goldfinger theme for awhile but got sick of it rather fast.
2008-03-19 12:18:58
174.   berkowit28
157 'Suffering Bruin tried to find me at work one day, but I was off. The woman at the Info Desk told me, "I didn't know you had any male friends who were good looking."'

The part I found interesting is - what did she mean or imply by "I didn't know..."? Why should she know? Did she mean that someone (who looks) like you couldn't be expected to have good-looking friends, because you're not glamorous yourself and all such people tend to stick together? Someone like you wouldn't have good-looking friends because normally they wouldn't want to know you?

Yeah, I realize it's probably just a menaningless conversational gambit to get into saying she found him good-looking, but still...

2008-03-19 12:19:14
175.   bhsportsguy
171 Big ifs but if LaRoche was healthy right now, there would be no question who would start at 3B in 12 days.
2008-03-19 12:19:32
176.   Bob Timmermann
My ringtone is a flashing red light.
2008-03-19 12:20:57
177.   Kevin Lewis
I think my Final Four is:

Tenn. vs Wisconsin

UCLA vs. Texas

2008-03-19 12:21:25
178.   madmac
173 we've got a guy from ATT here working on some stuff and his phone just rang with that ringtone. I thought, could that be underdog.
2008-03-19 12:21:58
179.   underdog
Since Rob Neyer seems to be our go-to guy today, can anyone with an ESPN Insider account tell us what he says in his new piece just up today teasingly titled:
"Dodgers need to eat Pierre's money"

Well THAT had my attention. Too bad I can't read it.

2008-03-19 12:22:10
180.   Eric Enders
169 It's very possible that K-State will have the crowd rooting passionately AGAINST them despite playing in Omaha. There are a lot more Kansas fans than K-State fans, and they travel anywhere, and they hate the Wildcats, and they're playing in the same regional.
2008-03-19 12:22:28
181.   bhsportsguy
174 Again, quoting a classic.

"I remember when the librarian was a much older woman: Kindly, discreet, unattractive. We didn't know anything about her private life. We didn't want to know anything about her private life. She didn't have a private life."

2008-03-19 12:22:37
182.   madmac
don't suppose loud ringtones are welcomed at the library
2008-03-19 12:22:46
183.   underdog
178 Sadly, I'm not the only one with that ringtone. But it was worth the 3 bucks.
2008-03-19 12:23:36
184.   Kevin Lewis
My ring tone is the least annoying one I could find that came with the phone. I am too cheap to buy a ring tone, sad I know.
2008-03-19 12:24:12
185.   bhsportsguy
180 That's true, out here a similar thing took place at the Pac-10 tourney. Certainly part of it was because UCLA fans did not want to face USC anyway but last Thursday, they rooted for ASU against the much smaller band of USC fans.
2008-03-19 12:24:20
186.   Eric Enders
174 Clearly, what she meant is that Bob has an endless supply of good-looking female friends.
2008-03-19 12:24:54
187.   blue22
179 - Money quote:

Frankly, this is where a great owner would step in and say one of two things to his general manager:

1. "Ned, I signed off on that ridiculous contract so I'm not going to hold it against you. Forget about the $44 million. That's gone. Just make the right baseball decision."


2. "You're fired."

2008-03-19 12:25:39
188.   madmac
183 yeah, but still made me think of you. hadn't heard it as a ringtone before and then you mentioned it yesterday and then I hear today. that and it's conceivable geographically.

184 yeah, me too

2008-03-19 12:26:44
189.   Eric Stephen
Short recap of the Neyer article:

Pierre is a sunk cost. The money's gone already, so the team should just make the correct baseball decision regarding whom should start in the Dodger OF.

2008-03-19 12:28:38
190.   Disabled List
177 I have Wisconsin out against USC in the 2nd round, although I'm debating that. I wish I knew which OJ Mayo is gonna show up.

My Final Four: Tenn vs. GTown, Memphis vs. UCLA

I may switch out Georgetown with Kansas, and if I have had any stones whatsoever, I'd take Memphis over UCLA. But I will homer up and pick the Bruins to beat Tennessee for the title.

2008-03-19 12:29:04
191.   Eric Enders
I make my own ringtones, which is ridiculously easy to do with MP3-editing software. Right now I'm using the harmonica part from "Thunder Road," but I also use "London Calling" a lot. Even though I don't know anyone in London.
2008-03-19 12:29:42
192.   Eric Stephen
I have the same final four, except I have USC in place of Wisconsin (total homer pick on my part).

I'm disheartened that Pomeroy has K-State with a 56.41% chance to win round 1. This game serves as a sort of payback to arguments with my uncles (from Kansas) who dismiss the entire Pete Carroll era by noting that he's 0-2 against Kansas St!

2008-03-19 12:29:43
193.   Bob Timmermann
I believe my coworkers think that most of my friends are nerdy looking types. Or older versions of Martin Prince and Milhouse Van Houten.
2008-03-19 12:31:40
194.   bhsportsguy
189 The part that is fascinating to me is that Juan Pierre did not really do anything to put himself in this position. He played his game last year and this spring, he moved over the LF and played his game some more.

If I had time, I could try and pull out everytime Ned has said that he thinks the best players should play but that wouldn't prove much.

This is now Joe Torre's decison, if he decides to sit Pierre, that will force Ned to decide on what to do with him. The front office is not going to easily get rid of Pierre unless they are convinced of two things, that Ethier, Jones and Kemp are the best threesome (seems like that is the leaning sentiment) and that if something happens to one of those guys, Young and/or Repko are better alternatives than keeping Pierre around.

2008-03-19 12:32:04
195.   Eric Stephen
Eric, you're the expert on this, so I'll ask: Do you think the live version of Thunder Road (slower, acoustic) on the Chimes of Freedom album is almost as good as the original?

I really, really like that version, and Thunder Road is my favorite Bruce song.

2008-03-19 12:32:09
196.   madmac
What does Pomeroy say on the Oregon/Mississippi St. matchup?
2008-03-19 12:32:57
197.   bhsportsguy
193 Hey, I resent that. Personally, I think if I had soul patch or small goatee and took off my glasses, maybe I could pull off Dr. Nick.

Hi Everybody!

2008-03-19 12:33:42
198.   Humma Kavula
1. Big congrats to Lex and the entire inthedena household.

2. My ringtone is Booker T. and the MG's. "Green Onions." I am the only one I know with this ringtone.

2008-03-19 12:34:49
199.   Jon Weisman
There's no reason to get rid of Juan Pierre at this point if you have the discipline to use him correctly.

Who here thinks Kemp, Ethier, Jones, Repko and Young will all avoid injuries this season?

2008-03-19 12:35:06
200.   Eric Stephen
MSU 51.43%
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2008-03-19 12:35:55
201.   Eric Enders
192 My interpretation of those numbers is that they're saying these two teams are strong enough that they probably shouldn't be playing each other in the first round. For example, it gives BOTH K-State and SC a better chance of making it to the Final Four than 4-seed Vanderbilt.

I do think Pomeroy's numbers overrate K-State for two reasons--
1) He treats all games equally, and most of K-State's strong games happened a very long time ago, and
2) The computer can't properly adjust for the truly schizophrenic nature of K-State's home and road records.

2008-03-19 12:36:51
202.   cargill06
189 i'm sure you could trade him and not have to pay him all 36.5 coming his way. i bet if you paid about 30 of the remaining 36.5 of his contract many teams would take pierre at 4 years 6.5 million. hey i'd rather have pierre than kotsay
2008-03-19 12:37:40
203.   Eric Stephen
Yeah, the Dodgers don't have enough OF depth to get rid of Pierre anyway. Isn't Xavier Paul the only other OF on the 40-man other than your list?

Well, I suppose Kershaw could play the OF 4 out of every 5 days. :)

2008-03-19 12:38:09
204.   Eric Enders
195 I like it, but I don't believe it's ever occurred to me that it might be better than the original. Not sure I can hop on board that train.

I very much like the version of "Born to Run" on that recording.

2008-03-19 12:39:10
205.   Eric Stephen
193 ,197
I could probably pull off Comic Book Guy.
2008-03-19 12:39:29
206.   regfairfield
202 They have Jordan Schafer coming up who I'm sure they don't want to block.
2008-03-19 12:40:01
207.   regfairfield
161 I'm curious...
2008-03-19 12:40:57
208.   bhsportsguy
205 C'mon dude, based on what you said a few weeks ago, you are doing great.

OT: Is this some type of plot to cover up cursing with the sounds of tropical birds?

2008-03-19 12:41:19
209.   Bob Timmermann
Does anyone remember back when K State wore purple jerseys and shorts that were different shades? I believe they had those in 1981 when K State knocked off Oregon State on a day when a bunch of high seeds got knocked off including DePaul for the second straight year.
2008-03-19 12:41:40
210.   Daniel Zappala
I don't believe in ringtones on principle. In addition to libraries, they're not welcome at universities. My phone is set to vibrate unless I'm at home and my phone is in another room.

Since I have picked at least 11 brackets by now for various contests, I have no idea what my final four is. It depends on the bracket.

2008-03-19 12:42:43
211.   underdog
199 It's a fair point. But what about worries about having another sulking player on the bench issue that could distract the team (yes, Ethier would be that player if logic doesn't win out, but say it's Pierre, sulky and basically a $44 million pinch runner?)
2008-03-19 12:43:04
212.   bhsportsguy
209 I want Oregon to wear their black jerseys with black lettering again. Just to screw with the CBS crew.
2008-03-19 12:43:19
213.   kinbote
Ethier looks ripped in his spring training pix. He appears to be in phenemonal shape and primed for a breakout year. I think it might be time for the "experts" to revise his ceiling upward.
2008-03-19 12:43:29
214.   Eric Stephen
Much like fantasy baseball, I prefer to have just one bracket (or team). It's much easier to concentrate your rooting interest in one direction.
2008-03-19 12:43:38
215.   Jon Weisman
209 - I was wondering when the fad of T-shirts under uniform tops (a la Georgetown) faded away.
2008-03-19 12:44:58
216.   Jon Weisman
211 - I'd like to think that sulking is inversely proportionate to salary, at least somewhat.

210 - Don't you have some cars to service? Beep beep!

2008-03-19 12:45:00
217.   Eric Stephen
I think Oregon has black, yellow, and white uniforms, all with same color names stitched in. Do they have green too? Probably. God I hate those.

Speaking of Oregon, where is D4P?

2008-03-19 12:45:23
218.   underdog
Plus, aside from Repko and Young, is it that hard to find decent backup outfielders? George Lombard could be an okay 5th outfielder.

But as it stands, barring a trade, my guess is we're going to see a rotation of outfielders in general - rather than a platoon at one spot, Kemp, Ethier and Pierre (who will also probably spot Andruw once in awhile) will probably all rotate in and out to make everyone happy -- except the fans of course. (But the argument would be it's better than sitting Kemp or Ethier in general.)

2008-03-19 12:46:29
219.   underdog
216 True, I'm underpaid and sometimes sulk about it!

I'd expect Pierre to be thrilled he has a job and a multimillionaire for doing very little, but I guess I'm just picturing something different.

2008-03-19 12:46:51
220.   Eric Stephen
Haven't seen much of the T-shirt look with the newer non tank top style jerseys. Those are pretty classic though.
2008-03-19 12:48:02
221.   Bob Timmermann
I think teams should go back to jerseys with sleeves. That look is timeless.
2008-03-19 12:48:07
222.   Samuel

Oregon has green jerseys as well, they wore them against Wazzu in the pac-10 tourney.

2008-03-19 12:48:32
223.   trainwreck
Chris-Douglas Roberts of Memphis still wears the white T underneath.
2008-03-19 12:49:20
224.   trainwreck
Eric Gordon of Indiana too.
2008-03-19 12:49:37
225.   Marty
I saw a couple Georgetown players wearing the t-shirts in a game last week.
2008-03-19 12:50:08
226.   trainwreck
2008-03-19 12:50:21
227.   Samuel
Roy Hibbert wears the t-shirt too.
2008-03-19 12:51:05
228.   bhsportsguy
Bob, when is the deadline for entries?
2008-03-19 12:51:06
229.   trainwreck
Yeah, Hibbert wears a blue or gray one.
2008-03-19 12:51:53
230.   Bob Timmermann
Oregon probably won't wear the black because they won't want to put a blue NCAA logo on them. It would ruin the look.
2008-03-19 12:52:10
231.   ToyCannon
When it comes to March Madness I like to lose as many as possible. Pitt, UCLA, and North Carolina currently inhabit my winners circle. It is a good bet that none of the 3 will end up cutting the net.

Lorenzo Charles catching an air ball and making the game winning basket is why I'm a huge March Madness fan today. I was blase during all the years that UCLA won, but that Wolfpack team woke something up and now it is my favorite time of year. Youtube brings back the magic:

2008-03-19 12:52:53
232.   underdog
What do I know about shirts? I like the Dodgers spring training jerseys (which I guess were more like batting practice t's). I also own an 80s Transformers t-shirt and wore it to work once.
2008-03-19 12:53:52
233.   underdog
I deliberately picked UCLA to lose to Memphis in a semi-final (and they may not get that far) just so I won't blame myself for jinxing them. I could blame some of you, however.
2008-03-19 12:54:53
234.   Jon Weisman
223 et al - Glad to see there are still some out there. I always liked that look for some reason.
2008-03-19 12:55:06
235.   kinbote
Speaking of shirts, has anyone received their new DT one yet? I just remembered I ordered it.
2008-03-19 12:55:29
236.   trainwreck
The last two years I have nailed when UCLA loses. So, hopefully I am right this year.
2008-03-19 12:59:07
237.   Bob Timmermann
231 - However in baseball, the Cardinals winning the World Series in 2006 or the Rockies winning the NLCS last year means that the sport is severely flawed (this is not ToyCannon's position)

But I am reminded of Walter J Myers Jr yelling at the kids in the focus group about what they want in "Itchy and Scratchy."

2008-03-19 13:00:14
238.   Daniel Zappala
231 I picked one bracket purely on RPI (kind of boring) and another purely on the team's record over the past 12 games (much more interesting). In case of ties I went with the higher-seeded team.

In the bracket based on the last 12 games, I've got a final four of NC-Davidson-Cornell-Belmont, with Davidson winning it all, thanks to their 12-0 record and 10 seed. That also leads to a history-making 16 vs. 1 upset of Portland St. over Kansas.

My other brackets are more sane.

2008-03-19 13:00:35
239.   bhsportsguy

235 Contact customer service.

237 And that's when Poochie was born.

2008-03-19 13:01:12
240.   El Lay Dave
161 Judge? Maybe sporky will volunteer. Or kadycee if she can be found.

165 Useful for gauging the competition. (Mozilla doesn't like the 'u' in gauging, but I'm going with it; is the 'u' no longer preferred?)

I'm having trouble imagining Suffering Bruin whispering in a library.

And congrats to Lexinthedena's new bundle. Good luck to Mr. and Mrs. Jon.

2008-03-19 13:01:49
241.   El Lay Dave
233 You know to sport a DT shirt though, right?
2008-03-19 13:03:47
242.   MC Safety
Congrats, Lexinthedena.

My ringtone at the moment is "Dirty Work" by Steely Dan.

2008-03-19 13:07:23
243.   underdog
241 If I wear my hat backwards does that add to the anti-jinx powers or reverse it?
2008-03-19 13:08:23
244.   trainwreck
My ringtone is "Selkies: The Endless Obsession," by Between the Buried and Me.

2008-03-19 13:08:40
245.   El Lay Dave
243 Add, but only if you can truly pull that look off. I look even more ridiculous in a backward cap, which is negative power all the way.
2008-03-19 13:11:36
246.   MC Safety
240 No Molly Knight? Blasphemy!!
2008-03-19 13:11:39
247.   Marty
My phone makes a ringing noise when I'm getting a call.
2008-03-19 13:15:30
248.   Samuel

Was the tinyurl a confirmation of what I said about Hibbert or is that not a t-shirt? I admit, I can be blind sometimes.

2008-03-19 13:16:55
249.   Eric Stephen
That was a shirt. Keeping the tradition of T-shirted Georgetown big men alive.
2008-03-19 13:16:59
250.   bhsportsguy
248 Confirmation Baby.
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2008-03-19 13:20:22
251.   El Lay Dave
I'm surprised there are still T-shirt wearers. Don't the sleeves cover part of the tatts?
2008-03-19 13:20:27
252.   Eric Stephen
Have you slipped into Dickie V mode?

Speaking of that, I got into my car at lunch and was greeted with the Stephen A. Smith show on ESPN radio. He then announced his guests for the next hour would be Dick Vitale and Steve Phillips.

I would like to thank ESPN Radio for consolidating things I dislike into one easy to avoid medium for once.

2008-03-19 13:21:26
253.   El Lay Dave
246 Whoops!
2008-03-19 13:21:47
254.   bhsportsguy
252 Vitale is fine in small doses.
2008-03-19 13:23:52
255.   Samuel
Oh and to add to the conversation about ringtones, my ringtone is Guile's theme from Street Fighter 2.
2008-03-19 13:24:33
256.   madmac
217 yes, I feel so alone. GO DUCKS!
2008-03-19 13:25:31
257.   El Lay Dave
There were nearly 500 DT comments yesterday with no real Dodger news and only an ST game as a "hot" topic. Is DT going to be setting records this season, especially in sustained volume? Are the Toaster servers ready? Opening Day looms in the very near-future and we are ready to savor the new season.
2008-03-19 13:25:48
258.   Eric Enders
Last year I did a bracket in Bob's group that was based entirely on which team's logo would win a fight against the other team's logo. For example, the Nevada Wolf Pack would totally destroy the Creighton Blue Jays.

I did not do well.

2008-03-19 13:26:53
259.   Eric Enders
A half-man, half-bull pitching three innings no longer qualifies as news I guess.
2008-03-19 13:28:23
260.   MC Safety
253 Blame it on your imposter!
2008-03-19 13:29:20
261.   bhsportsguy
For Bob and others who need stretch out on those long plane rides.

2008-03-19 13:31:25
262.   trainwreck
Haha, nice.
2008-03-19 13:33:53
263.   Bob Timmermann
There's nothing more fun that a pulmonary embolism on a long plane flight! It's part of the joy of travel.
2008-03-19 13:35:19
264.   Jon Weisman
257 - My page views in February 2008 were 50 percent higher than February 2007.
2008-03-19 13:36:19
265.   Eric Enders
And meanwhile, poor Bob's NCAA pool registration is down 35%.
2008-03-19 13:38:18
266.   Bob Timmermann
My page views dropped from February 2007 to February 2008.

I need to give away more stuff.

2008-03-19 13:39:50
267.   Bob Timmermann
On the other hand, the Dow 30 finished up 293 points today! I believe eventually credit rates will be lowered to a point that banks will lend you $1000 and only ask for $990 back.
2008-03-19 13:42:37
268.   ToyCannon
Yet, other then Cargill I haven't seen any new posters. Lots and lots of new viewers, who will be the 1st among them to make that all important 1st post that breaks the ice?
2008-03-19 13:42:54
269.   bhsportsguy
264 Perhaps posting someone's video helped.
2008-03-19 13:43:33
270.   ToyCannon
I'm sure you meant down.
2008-03-19 13:44:19
271.   Jon Weisman
Since I'll be otherwise occupied tomorrow, maybe that can be Break the Ice day.
2008-03-19 13:44:43
272.   Jon Weisman
269 - That was in March.
2008-03-19 13:45:27
273.   ToyCannon
I'm clueless as to the number of views on True Blue. I'm probably better off being in the dark.
2008-03-19 13:46:18
274.   Bill Crain
During the Carter-Ford years they were giving me dollars and only asking for pennies in return.

Inflation! Those were the days.

2008-03-19 13:46:32
275.   Bob Timmermann
Stupid NYT using headline "Dow Gives Up 293"

They expect me to read EVERY word in the headline. I'm a busy man. I have to wait around to be thanked and excused for a second day!

2008-03-19 13:47:04
276.   ToyCannon
Ice-Breaker Day has a nice ring to it.

Is it because the Toaster has such stringent requirements for registration?

2008-03-19 13:48:29
277.   Eric Stephen
Ice Breaker day can even be sponsored!
2008-03-19 13:53:23
278.   ToyCannon
Something new I just learned today from SOSG that I always wondered about.
2008-03-19 13:53:56
279.   Disabled List
In his "List of 64" column on ESPN, Tim Keown makes this observation: "Can we please call for a moratorium on all the whining about which teams get to play in their home states?"

Six sentences later, he whines: "If one of the teams playing is UCLA, it makes it easier on the refs because the Bruins get all the calls."

2008-03-19 13:55:52
280.   Jon Weisman
276 - Asking you one time for a password is stringent?
2008-03-19 13:56:20
281.   madmac
200 thanks, btw.
2008-03-19 13:56:43
282.   regfairfield
273 If you're curious:

It's that sitemeter link on the bottom of the page. I can proudly say we're not the least read NL West related blog.

2008-03-19 14:05:50
283.   Samuel

How many copies of MLB08: The Show did you have for review? I sent an e-mail yesterday but I don't know if you got it or not.

2008-03-19 14:06:54
284.   regfairfield
283 One, I took someone at random out of the people who sent me an email. I'm sending out e-mails right now to the people who didn't get it. Sorry to say that you weren't picked.
2008-03-19 14:09:37
285.   Samuel

No problem, just wondering. Thanks anyway.

2008-03-19 14:17:24
286.   ToyCannon
Pimping only because the Bison came from here.
2008-03-19 14:17:25
287.   Kevin Lewis

Playing their song after first downs...that was hilarious.

Sorry, Jon

2008-03-19 14:21:53
288.   Bob Timmermann
The Washington State band played music from "Jaws" quite frequently.

During the Pac-10 tournament at Staples, there is a pretty lame scoreboard feature called "Fight song karaoke."

For Stanford, they showed one guy who went:
"Duh, duh duh, duh duh, duh duh, duh, duh, duh .... All right now, baby it's all right now."

It was less than awe-inspriring.

2008-03-19 14:23:13
289.   Xeifrank
What would March Madness look like if college basketball followed a similar college football playoff system? Maybe something like North Carolina vs Memphis or UCLA for the title, and then a bunch of meaningless games. vr, Xei
2008-03-19 14:25:03
290.   wronghanded
284 Huh!? Reviews? I actually like MLB08, the pitching stunk at first but now I'm dealing (I like the fact that the right analog stick is acting as a total control button now). BTW The Dodgers offense looks a lot better when the lineup is manipulated and a certain created free agent is roaming CF ( ;). My only real gripe is the synonymous fans movement in the background and lack of diversity. What are your thoughts?
2008-03-19 14:26:47
291.   KG16
I haven't purchased a baseball video game since EA Sports killed MVP Baseball. I'm thinking of getting one this year, anyone with thoughts on which brand to go with?
2008-03-19 14:27:40
292.   Eric Stephen
If football could be played as often as twice a week, then you might be on to something. :)
2008-03-19 14:31:27
293.   Samuel

A lot of reviews have been saying to go with MLB08:The Show rather than MLB2K8. I'm just waiting/hoping for a good deal on MLB08 to show up before I purchase it.

2008-03-19 14:31:33
294.   silverwidow
White Sox waived Juan Uribe. I'm sure Ned is on the phone as we speak.
2008-03-19 14:34:02
295.   wronghanded
291 I think MLB08 is worth a purchase, other than what I wrote above it is nearly impossible to walk in the game (at least for me) but I have a JP approach in the game with punch - the Judy.
2008-03-19 14:34:02
296.   Kevin Lewis
I've got 2K8 and despite some of the flaws, I really enjoy it. But it looks like next years 2K game will be much better. The developer from MVP is now working with 2K
2008-03-19 14:34:06
297.   regfairfield
294 Better him than Ramon Martinez.
2008-03-19 14:35:40
298.   ToyCannon
Willie Aybar or Joel Guzman should be available by May 1st. Longoria only needs to stay off the roster for 11 days to keep him from starting his clock early. To bad about Baldelli, even if he was overhyped never getting a chance due to some freak disease just blows.
2008-03-19 14:37:18
299.   ToyCannon
I was curious but the link does not work.
2008-03-19 14:37:58
300.   Jon Weisman
287 - 24-23. We've got nothing to be ashamed of this year.
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2008-03-19 14:38:10
301.   Kevin Lewis

Yea it does. Especially when some writers says you had "injuries" as if you were faking it.


2008-03-19 14:38:46
302.   regfairfield
290 I was giving away a copy last night in exchange for writing a review.

299 Bizzare, what's wrong?

2008-03-19 14:38:57
303.   MC Safety
OT fantasy question for the DT masses:

Adam Jones for Ethier swap. He shot my Mike Cameron for Ethier proposal down. Pretty deep 14 team ROTO R,HR,RBI,SB,AVG

This is killing me.

2008-03-19 14:39:06
304.   Eric Stephen
At least Ron Thulen said "Touchdown Trojans". I stand by his call!
2008-03-19 14:39:40
305.   Bob Timmermann
USC's band is pretty methodical in what it plays.

"Fight on" after a first down.
"Tribute to Troy" after a defensive stop.
USC also plays "All Right Now."

2008-03-19 14:40:14
306.   MC Safety
294 Is Alexei Ramirez getting the 2b job?
2008-03-19 14:40:43
307.   Eric Stephen
You have to do that just for playing time, right? Isn't Jones far more likely to play a full season than Ethier?
2008-03-19 14:40:53
308.   regfairfield
303 Without question. Jones will get steals and is more likely to get play time with his competition being Jay Payton and Tike Redman. He'll probably struggle early and have a strong second half.
2008-03-19 14:40:57
309.   ToyCannon
Jones will hurt in Avg this year but given that he is the starting CF and has more power then Ethier why would you want to trade him? I could see Jones being better in every category except AVG.
2008-03-19 14:41:12
310.   regfairfield
306 Danny Richar, I'm guessing.
2008-03-19 14:41:27
311.   blue22
303 - I think you'd have to be a very optimistic Dodger fan to make that trade.
2008-03-19 14:42:56
312.   ImprobableImpossible
"All Right Now" is played after a turnover.
2008-03-19 14:45:10
313.   Bob Timmermann
Personally, I would like to hear the Stanford fans sing:

I said, "Hey, what's your name?
Maybe we can see things the same.
"Now don't you wait, or hesitate.
Let's move before they raise the parking rate."

2008-03-19 14:46:32
314.   fiddlestick
291-- I don't know about the other platforms, but 2K8 for the Wii is pretty darned good.
2008-03-19 14:49:23
315.   silverwidow
Uribe will take Abreu's spot on the roster as the utility guy. I just hope we don't give up anyone legit in a trade.
2008-03-19 14:55:13
316.   MC Safety
310 He's dealing with some sort of back issues I think. I just read it could possibly be Ramirez with Ozuna backing up. I need a middle infielder bad in this one league. I've got to go with something out of Ramirez, Nix/Baker/Giles, Harris/Punto, Eckstein, Ramirez, Kennedy/Izturis and Izturis/Aybar. I have Maicer Izturis right now because I thought he was going to get the SS job, but he might split time with Aybar they are saying. I'd like to get a little speed out of that spot as well.
2008-03-19 15:01:00
317.   blue22
316 - Nix should be the starting 2B for Colorado. Unless Ramirez is the out-and-out starter for Chicago, I think Nix is the most attractive name on there.
2008-03-19 15:07:32
318.   Eric Stephen
I emailed Tony Jackson regarding the China stipend issue, and he said, "Dodgers players got $3,000, negotiated by the union. I assume that means everyone else got zippo."
2008-03-19 15:08:31
319.   Bob Timmermann
If you saw "Black Magic", the St. Louis Post-Dispatch ran a story with a much different take on the Cleo Hill story.

2008-03-19 15:11:28
320.   MC Safety
316 Yikes..back issue.

317 I read on Rotowire Nix is in the lead, but all three (!) could split time.

2008-03-19 15:15:38
321.   regfairfield
Or, how not to repeat as NL champions.
2008-03-19 15:16:28
322.   blue22
320 - Then Eckstein is probably the best bet for playing time. He could steal a dozen bases maybe too.
2008-03-19 15:23:12
323.   ToyCannon
I'd take Harris myself. The Twins will need his offense more then they will need Punto's defense. Plus he might garner some time at 3rd when Lamb sits against LHP.
Eckstein will get hurt. He can't stay healthy anymore and I think he's done. Toronto made a bad decision on him. He's a bench player at this point not a starting SS.
Nix won't hit enough.
2008-03-19 15:23:56
324.   Dodgers49
318 Dodgers players got $3,000, negotiated by the union.

It appears I'll have to accept that for the time being. :-) I went back to to find the $40,000.00 reference and couldn't locate it. It was as if someone had removed it to keep Curt Schilling from seeing it. :-) But I know I read in though because I remember thinking what a great deal this must be for guys such as Kevin Howard and John Lindsey who probably have never seen a $40,000.00 check before. In fact, I now recall that article saying the players would also get a percentage of the gate which was expected to add another $3,000.00 or so to there total.

2008-03-19 15:24:12
325.   Jon Weisman
319 - I'm sure it's gray as opposed to just black-and-white, but this analogy doesn't track for me:

"I think somebody's trying to rake the coals over a fire that's not burning," said Blake, comparing Hill's situation to his own acting career, which never materialized after he played a dead body in the 1945 war movie "They Were Expendable." "We all have disappointments."

2008-03-19 15:24:23
326.   regfairfield
323 Keep in mind that Alexi Casilla probably is the one that actually deserves the job and could displace him at any minute.
2008-03-19 15:25:42
327.   Jon Weisman
Nomar has a microfracture:

2008-03-19 15:27:30
328.   Dodgers49
324 so to there total.

Oh my! I've been bitten by the old there for their bug. :-)

2008-03-19 15:29:45
329.   blue22
FWIW, from the Jim Callis chat today:

Jim, What's your thoughts on Alixei Ramirez? Keith Law recently compared him to a younger more raw version of Alfonso Soriano, because of his wiry body, his strong wrists and hands and his lack of plate discipline. What's your thoughts? Thanks and keep up the good work.

SportsNation Jim Callis: I don't think he's going to be the big power threat that Soriano is, but they do have the same build and swing-at-everything approach. Ramirez will help the White Sox and he's versatile. I think he'll be their second baseman this year and perhaps their center fielder in the future.

2008-03-19 15:31:47
330.   Dodgers49
327 It is beginning to look like Ned is going to have to go get a 3B somewhere. ...

Oh boy! Trouble in River City.

2008-03-19 15:32:40
331.   bhsportsguy
Mike Myers still has a shot
From Dohn, after his thought that the Dodgers may have to get someone to play 3B.

"Eric Stults and Greg Miller were optioned to minor-league camp today, leaving the overall roster at 42."

2008-03-19 15:32:47
332.   overkill94
327 Joe Crede, here we come! I would offer negative $5M for him.
2008-03-19 15:35:00
333.   madmac
now that's a prank I could handle

2008-03-19 15:35:04
334.   bhsportsguy
330 Well I can't exactly argue right now, the Dodgers really don't have anything close to a everyday 3B who is healthy right now. If Abreu could play and Nomar would be available after the first week or so, then I could see them waiting to see but if none of those guys can play on March 31st, what should they do, play Ramon Martinez?

And, no Blake Dewitt is not the answer right now.

2008-03-19 15:35:20
335.   silverwidow
Just start DeWitt; he can't be any worse that what's available.
2008-03-19 15:36:19
336.   underdog
332 Would you offer Juan Pierre for him is the question.
2008-03-19 15:37:05
337.   blue22
334 - Take your chances with Hu? Go get a stopgap like Esteban German?
2008-03-19 15:41:25
338.   regfairfield
353 Wanna bet? It's also a really good way to run him out of options.

German is an option I really like.

2008-03-19 15:43:37
339.   Eric Stephen
The answer is clear. I want my 2009 Topps Andre Ethier baseball card to read "3B-OF"! :)
2008-03-19 15:43:44
340.   Kevin Lewis
Wow, you cited the future
2008-03-19 15:45:42
341.   silverwidow
338 OK, fine -- Furcal to 3B, Hu to SS. There, done.
2008-03-19 15:45:52
342.   overkill94
338 I'm on the German bandwagon as well, he's a solid hitter and can play just about anywhere. Having both him and Abreu as utility guys would make for quite the bench once everyone's healthy (and we go back down to 11 pitchers).
2008-03-19 15:47:45
343.   overkill94
332 I'd offer Pierre and $20M to Purple Pictures for the rights to The Hottie and the Nottie 2: Downright Fugly
2008-03-19 15:48:24
344.   Eric Stephen
That's probably the best option. I can see not wanting to move Furcal though, and getting Hu some time at 3B can add to his "super utility" resume.

So now we are looking at Hu at 3rd, Furcal at SS, and hoping for one of Kent or Abreu to be available at 2B each game. I suppose Delwyn could be in the mix as well if absolutely necessary.

2008-03-19 15:49:50
345.   bhsportsguy
May Eric Enders can find something but not much out there on microfractures, could be a grade one wrist sprain, unfortunately for both Andy and Nomar, hand and wrist injuries are not ones that are easy to come back from (certainly not as much history as a knee injury for example). Good thing is that they can stay in condition to the extent that they can do cardio without any problems.

Right now, I put both on track to not see any regular season action until May.

2008-03-19 15:50:49
346.   fanerman
340 At first I thought you were talking about Eric Stephen's 2009 baseball card, until I saw 338 .

I wouldn't mind putting Hu or Delwyn at 3rd, but if Nomar's gonna be out for a bit, I expect we'll import some PVL guy, hopefully it's just a stopgap type.

2008-03-19 15:51:39
347.   Eric Stephen
Thinking of Ethier at 3B made me think of Mike Squires, who played all of 14 games at third base in the 1980s despite throwing from the starboard side.

Does anyone remember watching him play 3B? He and Willie Keeler are the only lefties to play as many as 10 career games at 3B since 1901.

2008-03-19 15:52:03
348.   blue22
345 - Yeah, I agree.

"Nomar Garciaparra" + "wrist" + "microfracture" = no April baseball (at least).

2008-03-19 15:52:39
349.   cargill06
stupid adroin.
the job would be larcohe's and he wouldn't have to look over his shoulders, he'd probably hit .340/.460/.580 this season too. go get crede and laroche will be playing in vegas all year.
2008-03-19 15:53:08
350.   blue22
When does Jason Repko start taking grounders at third?
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2008-03-19 15:54:37
351.   fanerman
347 Do you mean... port side?
2008-03-19 15:55:11
352.   silverwidow
he'd probably hit .340/.460/.580 this season too.

No, he wouldn't have.

2008-03-19 15:58:20
353.   Kevin Lewis
Nice article on Vero by Hinckley

2008-03-19 15:58:20
354.   cargill06
352 as the season gets closer the better my projected stats get. in dec i had laroche at .180/.250/.310

i have loaiza 19-8 with a 2.87 era right now. but ask me in 10 days, it will change.

2008-03-19 15:58:55
355.   Kevin Lewis
Dang it. I had my chance to post something to make 338 work
2008-03-19 16:01:44
356.   Jon Weisman

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