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Jackie Robinson Day
2008-04-15 16:24
by Jon Weisman

In honor of Jackie Robinson Day, allow me to present Robert Landry's portrait of him. You might remember Landry's rendering of Sandy Koufax from December.

* * *

Is Jan Levinson crazy, or too crazy? Read my thoughts about Melora Hardin's character and "The Office" at Season Pass.

* * *

Pirates at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

Hong-Chih Kuo's first scheduled start of 2008.

Comments (427)
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2008-04-15 16:27:53
1.   Xeifrank
HongZhi Guo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 16:29:09
2.   Xeifrank
BucsDugout blog is running a single elimination poll contest on who the worst GM is. There are 12 contestants and Colletti is seeded 4th (1 seed = probably the worst) and has a first round bye. 12 vs 5 today.

vr, Xeifrank

2008-04-15 16:31:56
3.   MollyKnight
I'm watching the Yankee game and Edwin Jackson is throwing 97 mph fastballs.


2008-04-15 16:33:18
4.   Xeifrank
3. Go Tampa!!!
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 16:33:39
5.   underdog
2 Sounds very scientific.
2008-04-15 16:37:22
6.   El Lay Dave
2 Shouldn't they just have one poll to determine who the top two are, then stage a contest between them, then have a parade? ;)
2008-04-15 16:37:24
7.   Xeifrank
5. Yeah, but it's better than using a bowl system. vr, Xei
2008-04-15 16:37:57
8.   Xeifrank
6. haha, yes!!! :)
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 16:39:11
9.   El Lay Dave
Old friend and unlucky taxi passenger Duaner Sanchez was activated today.
2008-04-15 16:41:42
10.   El Lay Dave
The Dodgers received rave reviews for the Opening Day ceremony. I hope that is a good sign that tonight's ceremony will be memorable experience for the attendees.
2008-04-15 16:41:51
11.   Eric Enders
4 Admittedly obnoxious pet peeve of mine:

Tampa, a Yankees farm team, is tied 1-1 in the third.
Tampa Bay, for whom Edwin Jackson pitches, is located in St. Petersburg.

2008-04-15 16:42:26
12.   JoeyP
2--Colletti is seeded 3rd.

Top 4 worst GMs:

#1. Sabean
#2. Ed Wade
#3. Colletti
#4. Bavasi

2008-04-15 16:43:50
13.   Eric Enders
2 If we were having a bracket pool, I'd probably take Bill Bavasi over Wayne Krivsky in the finals. Of course, I haven't seen the seeding yet, and you can never count out Brian Sabean.
2008-04-15 16:45:26
14.   Xeifrank
12. Oops, my bad.

The Phillies/Astros game may be of interest.

Also, Andy Pettitte has given up 5 hits in the first two innings but no runs allowed.

vr, Xei

2008-04-15 16:46:43
15.   Jacob L
Having just survived the Dave Littlefield experience, Pirate fans are ready to shine the spotlight on the everyone else's misery.
2008-04-15 16:47:06
16.   JoeyP
Daniels is a strong #5. He really did make some horrendous deals.
2008-04-15 16:47:14
17.   still bevens
Here you go gentlemen, today's lineup. Similar, yet different.

Furcal, SS

Kemp, RF

Ethier, LF

Kent, 2B

Loney, 1B

Martin, C

Jones, CF

DeWitt, 3B

Kuo, P

2008-04-15 16:47:59
18.   Kevin Lewis

Yikes, I benched Longoria today

2008-04-15 16:48:03
19.   El Lay Dave
2 A little scroll down and they acknowledge borrowing the idea from regfairfield.

Some of you may remember Dodger Math's hilariously nasty Worst GM Poll from 2006, in which Dave Littlefield flattened the competition and took home the trophy.

Immediately after Littlefield was fired, I contacted Andrew from Dodger Math, who now helps run the SBN Dodgers blog True Blue LA. Neither I nor others at SB Nation could get an email through to him, though, so I had to put the idea on hold. Tonight, however, Andrew showed up in the game thread here at Bucs Dugout, so I was able to get his permission. Cheers to him, and please visit Andrew's blog.

Possibly the same e-mail snafu that kept him from being invited to the Dodgers' bloggers night?

2008-04-15 16:49:28
20.   Jon Weisman
19 - I've periodically sent Andrew e-mails that went unresponded to.
2008-04-15 16:50:01
21.   bhsportsguy
A certain fictional creature has pitched 3 innings so far, 0 runs, 1 hit, 1 walk and 5 strikeouts. 3 of his other 4 outs were ground balls.
2008-04-15 16:51:22
22.   bhsportsguy
12 What about J.P. ?
2008-04-15 16:53:43
23.   regfairfield
I fixed the problem finally by the way.
2008-04-15 16:55:48
25.   Jon Weisman
23 - Send me an e-mail sometime so I know I have your correct address.
2008-04-15 16:56:19
26.   Xeifrank
24. Rule 9?
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 16:58:11
27.   Eric Enders
26 Oh dang, I guess it was, technically at least. Never even occurred to me since the first inning is a little early to be thinking of those things.
2008-04-15 16:59:00
28.   bhsportsguy
4 Dodger pitching prospects on the hill tonight:

Great Lakes - Bryan Morris
Inland Empire - James Adkins
Jacksonville - Minotaur
Las Vegas - Jon Meloan

2008-04-15 16:59:14
29.   Xeifrank
27. I'll forgive you, if you forgive my Tampa [Bay] comment. :)
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 17:03:11
30.   Eric Enders
28 Throw in Edwin Jackson, Hong-Chih Kuo, and possibly Greg Miller, and it's like a Magical Mystery Tour of Dodger pitching prospects over the last few years.
2008-04-15 17:03:39
31.   Eric Enders
Kershaw allows a runner to reach on an error, then picks him off second base.
2008-04-15 17:04:04
32.   silverwidow
Kershaw with TWO pickoffs in the same inning!
2008-04-15 17:04:16
33.   underdog
Man, if Bryan Morris comes on, and Scott Elbert gets on track, this system is loaded with pitching. Minotaur, McDonald, Meloan, Morris = we're loaded with M's, too! Plus Withrow, Adkins, to name a few...
2008-04-15 17:04:50
34.   PDH5204
Crawford grounded out to second. Pena walked. Upton flied out to right. Longoria walked. Gomes singled to center, Pena scored, Longoria to third. DiFelice singled to left, Longoria scored, Gomes to third. Ruggiano struck out. End of three, Rays 2, Yankees 1. Go Rays!
2008-04-15 17:05:02
35.   bhsportsguy
4th inning Jacksonville
Error on 3B
Pickoff pitcher to SS
Pickoff pitcher to 1B
Called out on strikes on the curve ball.
2008-04-15 17:05:07
36.   Eric Enders
And Kershaw picks off another runner in the inning.
One more and it's Tippy Martinez time!

Instead, he disappoints us with a strikeout of the last batter.

2008-04-15 17:05:07
37.   Eric Stephen
Dodgers have to wait until tomorrow for Penny Lane.
2008-04-15 17:05:31
38.   Xeifrank
34. Go $$$$Rays$$$$.
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 17:05:48
39.   Eric Stephen
A strikeout is kind of like a pickoff of home!
2008-04-15 17:07:19
40.   bhsportsguy
If I root for Jackson, can I still defend the trade?
2008-04-15 17:08:59
41.   bhsportsguy
Though walking Abreu to get to A-Rod is not the way to start an inning.
2008-04-15 17:12:48
42.   Bob Timmermann
My sort of Jackie Robinson tribute:

Scene: Central Library, History & Genealogy Department, sometime in 1996

Rachel Robinson: Excuse me, can I get a copy of this journal? (Shows me citation.)
Me: Yes, ma'am. It's shelved down at that end of the room (points to genealogy section). It will be under this call number (something starting 929)
Rachel Robinson: Thank you!
Me: You're welcome.

2008-04-15 17:14:47
43.   Eric Stephen
And you said your historical anecdotes were boring.
2008-04-15 17:16:01
44.   wronghanded
Fittingly that was comment 42 coincidence? I think not!
2008-04-15 17:16:42
45.   Eric Enders
Bob makes old ladies find and carry their own books.
2008-04-15 17:20:15
46.   KG16
So, a win by either LA basketball team and the Lakers have home court advantage, no?

Of course, the Clippers seem set to make the Lakers do the heavy lifting themselves.

2008-04-15 17:20:43
47.   RELX
I have actually had the privilege of meeting Rachel Robinson several times. A few years back, my publishing company put Jackie Robinson's book Baseball Has Done It back in print. Rachel controls the rights, and I had several meetings with her at the Jackie Robinson Foundation here in NYC. I cannot tell you how nervous I was the first time I met with her. She was all business, and I am blurting out how big a Dodgers fan I am!
2008-04-15 17:22:43
48.   ucladodger
Man, Edwin got screwed in that last inning. A-Rod got lucky on a check swing call with 2 strikes when he clearly went. Fouled off some tough pitches and pulled a fastball for a double to put men on 2nd and 3rd with no out. Those 2 runs scored on a busted bat groundout and a wild pitch that should have been a passe ball.
2008-04-15 17:23:53
49.   Bob Timmermann
Genealogists are the most determined bunch of library patrons around. They can carry their own books.
2008-04-15 17:24:26
50.   Eric Enders
I thought A-Rod held up on the check swing.
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2008-04-15 17:31:18
51.   kinbote
Good feelings abound:

1. Jackie Robinson Day
2. Proper outfield alignment
3. There's no where to go but up
4. Lots of prospects pitching tonight
5. Kuo in rotation

2008-04-15 17:34:19
52.   PDH5204
Re EJax, as I remarked re Brian Bannister, with El Lay Dave's follow-up comment re turning hitters into Juan Pierre via not allowing the HR and the BB, EJax gave up the HR to Matsui and the Yanks go back in the lead with a walk to Abreu, a double by ARod, a groundout to first scoring Abreu, and a wild pitch scoring ARod. So note to EJax, absent the HR and the BB, you might be shutting them out [depending on what Matsui does in absence of the HR and what Abreu does in absence of the BB].
2008-04-15 17:34:32
53.   D4P
What did Pierre do to get benched all of a sudden?

Last 7 days:

2008-04-15 17:36:12
54.   kinbote
From Diamond Leung:

"Tony Abreu has been shut down in Vero Beach due to the lingering aftereffects of offseason surgery to repair a torn abdominal muscle."

2008-04-15 17:37:27
55.   kinbote
53 It's Bizarro Baseball. Torre's been trying to figure out whether Kemp's one of the better players on the team or worthless.
2008-04-15 17:37:43
56.   PDH5204
And again with the walk, this one with 2 down, and so Damon walks, Damon steals second, Jeter singles center, Damon scores, and now 4-2 Yanks.
2008-04-15 17:43:00
57.   dzzrtRatt
Does anyone care that Murray Chass took the buyout from the New York Times?

I never knew what to think of him. He never seemed to be FJM-level wrong, but he was unenlightening. A good writer, style-wise.

2008-04-15 17:43:30
58.   D4P
Tiger Woods has undergone another knee surgery, and will be out at least 4 weeks.


2008-04-15 17:46:29
59.   Eric Enders
Morris has now allowed one hit and one run through four innings.

Final Minotaur numbers: Six innings, four hits, one run, two walks, two pickoffs, six K's.

2008-04-15 17:47:54
60.   D4P
This is apparently the 3rd time Tiger has had surgery on the same knee. This does not bode well.
2008-04-15 17:53:32
61.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Jose Reyes.

Orange alert.

2008-04-15 17:56:11
62.   Eric Enders
Does that mean he needs a double, or that you think he has enough power to hit a homer?
2008-04-15 17:58:46
63.   D4P
Irony: the cycle alert system is supposed to reduce the number of words typed.
2008-04-15 17:58:54
64.   El Lay Dave
53 Joe Torre only starts JP on the days he already knows Pierre will produce. He's clairvoyant in that way.
2008-04-15 17:59:23
65.   Bob Timmermann
The latter.
2008-04-15 17:59:27
66.   Eric Enders
Mattingly triples, Lambo homers, and the Loons give Morris a 3-1 lead.
2008-04-15 18:00:06
67.   Bob Timmermann
The Cycle Alert System is not designed for brevity. It is done as a public service.
2008-04-15 18:03:43
68.   trainwreck
I don't know anything about golf, so how big of an issue is that?
2008-04-15 18:03:56
69.   nofatmike
67 Do you get a tax exemption for providing that service?
2008-04-15 18:04:45
70.   El Lay Dave
54 Abreu's injury has become a bizarre saga. He had the surgery at the beginning of October and recovery time was supposed to be eight weeks on the outside. Could have been worse though, could have been a Dominican appendectomy.
2008-04-15 18:06:31
71.   Bob Timmermann
Yes, but I have to file for it on three different schedules. One yellow, one orange, and one red.
2008-04-15 18:07:23
72.   Eric L
68 Not that my dad is anywhere near Tiger's level, but he has pretty much quit playing golf because of his bad knee's. He says that whatever power he had in his drives is long gone.
2008-04-15 18:10:39
73.   madmac
68 well if Tiger played a sport it...
2008-04-15 18:11:32
74.   D4P
Knees are important in golf. Tiger's swing is very powerful, and he places a lot of stress on his left knee on his follow-through. At some point, his knee problems could very well have a significant negative impact on his performance.
2008-04-15 18:11:44
75.   The Trolley Dodger
I guess Steinbrenner wasn't kidding about the whole Yankee Universe thing:

2008-04-15 18:17:55
76.   ucladodger

He just fell apart in that last inning. He had very little control all game long and could not throw his slider to save his life. Not to mention the Yanks are rediculously patient and foul off pitch after pitch. All in all, its an improvement from last year. He might have given up 7 or 8 last year without his good stuff, and he was close to delivering a decent performance tonight. Anywyas, the next start is a big one for Edwin.

2008-04-15 18:19:05
77.   ToyCannon
I'm trying not to get psyched up by Guo's game tonight. I'm losing the battle.

Can't believe the Dodgers cheaped out by only giving the jersey's to kids tonight. As though any of them even know who Jackie was. I don't mind when they cheap out on the real kids giveaways, but come on, it is a jersey.

2008-04-15 18:19:27
78.   ucladodger

Why do i always spell ridiculous wrong? I guess because the e is so close to the r on the keyboard...

2008-04-15 18:21:46
79.   StolenMonkey86
Um, the gameday link is the link for last night's game.
2008-04-15 18:22:20
80.   natepurcell
did Morris just tire in the 5th as well?
2008-04-15 18:40:29
81.   gpellamjr
I think, as a tribute to Jackie Robinson, comment #42 should be removed from this thread.
2008-04-15 18:42:24
82.   Bob Timmermann
And I know whom I can delete to drop my number of Facebook friends to 42 also.
2008-04-15 18:46:44
83.   gpellamjr
82 Ouch!

Not cool, Bob. Not cool.

2008-04-15 18:48:23
84.   Dodgers49
Mariners put pitcher Erik Bedard on 15-day disabled list

2008-04-15 18:51:36
85.   nofatmike
84 On the same day Adam Jones hits his first homerun of the season.
2008-04-15 18:53:23
86.   Dodgers49
Brewers sign Weaver to Minors deal

>> The Brewers finalized an incentive-rich, Minor League contract with veteran right-hander Jeff Weaver on Tuesday evening, pending a physical scheduled for Wednesday in Phoenix. <<

2008-04-15 18:56:37
87.   dianagramr
Griffey hit #595 tonight.

Go Junior!

2008-04-15 18:56:48
88.   PalmdaleSteve1
Joe T. gave a classy interview about Jackie, but then again Joe is one classy guy.
2008-04-15 18:57:52
89.   Indiana Jon
Reyes struck out in the bottom of the 8th.
2008-04-15 18:59:01
90.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled. Stand down.
2008-04-15 18:59:41
91.   El Lay Dave
From the last thread:

2008-04-15 14:40:32
229. Ricardo
I don´t know if anyone posted it, if the answer is yes I am sorry. Rosenthal on Andruw:

" Dodgers center fielder Andruw Jones is playing in the wrong division as he tries to overcome his 5-for-44 start; the starting pitching in the NL West is outstanding, and the Dodgers play nearly half their games against division opponents. Jones hit 10 of his 26 home runs last season against the Pirates, Reds and Marlins, the teams that posted the three highest ERAs in the National League."


Yes, pitching looks tough in the West, but Rosenthal is really cherry-picking his "stats" there. Of course, looking at one season's performance split by division is in the land of small sample sizes, but the reality is different than Rosenthal portrays. If the numbers were meaningful, Jones should be happy to see less of the east and more of the west:

Andruw Jones 2007, split by division*:

West: .284 .360 .523 .883, 100 PA, 25 PAs/HR
Cent: .258 .345 .536 .881, 174 PAs, 14.5 PAs/HR
East: .219 .311 .381 .692, 302 PAs, 33.6 PAs/HR

* excluding the Dodgers, his current team and the team Jones hit worst against in the West.

2008-04-15 18:59:50
92.   dianagramr
My alma mater (St. John's) has a bachelor's program in Athletic Administration. I was fortunate enough to get a partial scholarship for the program back in (gulp) 1981. I met Rachel, and attended the annual Jackie Robinson Foundation dinner.

That's the closest I came to knowing Jackie.

2008-04-15 19:01:06
93.   PalmdaleSteve1
I also liked the interview about the Baseball Urban program.

Nice interview with a kid from Compton College and nice commentary on the many factors effecting African American participation in the sport. MLB is on the right track with this program and all their efforts in they doing in this area.

Man does Chaka Khan have a set of pipes on her!

2008-04-15 19:02:10
94.   Andrew Shimmin
That was something. For sure.
2008-04-15 19:02:38
95.   larry slimfast
How did those players keep it together during that SSB?
2008-04-15 19:03:46
96.   Indiana Jon
Vin doesn;\'t realize that Kuo already started this year?
2008-04-15 19:07:37
97.   El Lay Dave
86 As joked about on The Griddle. Get in one of your own.
2008-04-15 19:07:50
98.   Suffering Bruin
Jose Valverde had a nightmarish outing in Philly, no other way to describe it.

3-0 Houston.

Valverde enters the game.

Snelling, PH, hits long homer to right.
Utley HBP.
Howard struck out.
Burrell hits long homer to right.
Jenkins struck out, reaches on a passed ball.
Feliz doubled to deep left, Jenkins scored.


2008-04-15 19:08:39
99.   Bob Timmermann
Billy Butler's hitting streak to start the season appears to have ended. MCCLOUTH!!! and Loney can continue their duel tonight.
2008-04-15 19:09:06
100.   dianagramr

That was Lidgesque!

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2008-04-15 19:11:56
101.   Gagne55
66 "Lambo homers"

That sounds like a broken record.

2008-04-15 19:12:56
102.   MollyKnight
Whatever vitamins Nate McClouth is taking, I need them.
2008-04-15 19:13:50
103.   fordprefect
oh no, not that number again...
2008-04-15 19:15:50
104.   El Lay Dave
The three SF starters that AZ is facing in their series are Sanchez, Correia and Zito (tomorrow, vs. Webb), yet they are 1-1.
2008-04-15 19:17:15
105.   dianagramr
California native and beach volleyball player (and wife of Matt Treanor) Misty May-Treanor sang "Take me out to the ballgame" at Wrigley tonight.

She then joined the Cubs broadcasters in the booth, and inquired ... on the air ... as to why certain players were all wearing #42 tonight.

2008-04-15 19:18:13
106.   Bob Timmermann
So it's up to James Loney to keep up with the McClouths.
2008-04-15 19:18:43
107.   Bluebleeder87

well at least it's something legit no conspiracy theories can be claimed from upper-management.

2008-04-15 19:20:31
108.   Bob Timmermann
Ms. May-Treanor's sport doesn't use numbers, so perhaps it confuses her.

Her husband when he goes to work has to put on all sorts of protective gear.

When she goes to work, she puts on a swimsuit.

2008-04-15 19:20:46
109.   larry slimfast
Someone should piece together a Vin Scully's School of Baseball™ video of all the descriptions of fundamental situations in baseball a la "Jeff Kent..." a few minutes ago.
2008-04-15 19:23:36
110.   dianagramr
Meanwhile, in Cleveland .... the Red Sox just scored 2 runs in the top of the 9th, and now lead 5-3 (no Borowski to blame tonight)
2008-04-15 19:23:39
111.   El Lay Dave
Is K/Guo wild or being squeezed? Or a little of both?
2008-04-15 19:23:50
112.   Gen3Blue
In my mind there is nothing worse than a pitcher who can't or won't throw strikes. We are headed for a deep defecit early in the game again if Kou can't find a bit of courage.
2008-04-15 19:24:48
113.   Bako Joe
Status Kuo--Ball four
2008-04-15 19:25:17
114.   Hallux Valgus
111- wild. very very wild
2008-04-15 19:26:18
115.   Johnny Nucleo
Mostly fastballs too.
2008-04-15 19:26:34
116.   OhioBlues12
He has been wild, but I felt he was getting squeezed a bit in the AB for Bay.
2008-04-15 19:27:11
117.   Neal Pollack
I need some blue Pepto.
2008-04-15 19:27:29
118.   Bluebleeder87
1 run on 1 hit but a ton of pitches thrown by K/Gou.
2008-04-15 19:27:48
119.   micktissue
If Kuo is on a 70 pitch limit, he'll be out by the third!
2008-04-15 19:29:31
120.   Bluebleeder87
K/Gou got squeezed a little on some pitches BUT he's been wild we can't complain.
2008-04-15 19:30:03
121.   El Lay Dave
119 Yeah, he used about 45% of his pitches right there - 32.
2008-04-15 19:30:11
122.   DXMachina
At least he got out of it cheap.
2008-04-15 19:30:28
123.   Bob Timmermann
On Gameday, they have an instant highlight. It shows Kuo walking Paulino.

It's scintillating!

2008-04-15 19:31:47
124.   Bluebleeder87
I was gonna say, you guys think Matt Kemp should get lazer eye surgery for his vision, I'd really consider it if I were Kemp, seriously.
2008-04-15 19:32:46
125.   Bluebleeder87

Don't fall for it Bob.

2008-04-15 19:33:23
126.   Gen3Blue
This is where you need a guy or two like Maddox. I can just hear the other teams scouts. Just keep taking until you can't. They've got no one who can put it over the plate consistantly. This may not strictly be true of Lowe or Kuroda, but only on good nights.
2008-04-15 19:35:18
127.   Izzy
42. Hey that was cool! I would save that as your desktop background. I never get tired of the Jackie Robinson story.
2008-04-15 19:37:23
128.   thinkingblue
on the bright side, Kuo can still K people, but sadly, still has that fatal control flaw.
2008-04-15 19:37:56
129.   Gen3Blue
Look at Gomez take pitches. Thank god Kuo did the right thing and found the plate.
2008-04-15 19:39:46
130.   El Lay Dave
126 Penny's walk rate is fine. Lowe walk rate last season is consistent with his career performance, which is also fine. They are not wild men.
2008-04-15 19:40:11
131.   Indiana Jon
Good news there about Abreu. It's not related to his surgery.
2008-04-15 19:41:30
132.   Bluebleeder87
nice enough inning, I'm still disappointed in how many pitches he threw in the 1st but it is what it is...
2008-04-15 19:41:35
133.   DXMachina
Much better inning.
2008-04-15 19:42:25
134.   trainwreck
Well that looks impressive on Gameday.
2008-04-15 19:43:03
135.   ryu
Much better, but Hong-Chi is no Sandy KUOfax. :)
2008-04-15 19:43:41
136.   PalmdaleSteve1
Anyone know or hear how Schmidt is coming along? Did a quick search of news and there's not a lot of fresh stuff out there on how he's coming along.
2008-04-15 19:45:23
137.   Bluebleeder87
Kent has a really nice apposite field swing man, he's been doing that allot lately.
2008-04-15 19:50:00
138.   D4P
When the Dodgers leave for Atlanta on Thursday, joining them on the five-game road trip will be Nomar Garciaparra, who, according to Manager Joe Torre, will be activated in time for Friday's game
2008-04-15 19:50:12
139.   Gen3Blue
Please Loney don't get picked off
2008-04-15 19:50:53
140.   Gen3Blue
Well, just as bad--and Jones is coming up.
2008-04-15 19:51:00
141.   MMSMikey
martin cant even foul it off?
2008-04-15 19:51:23
142.   dianagramr

4/9 tidbit on Schmidt:

Schmidt is still working his way back for the Dodgers. He threw a fifty-pitch bullpen session and it went well, but he's still not throwing breaking balls; he's on track for a June return, assuming he suffers no setbacks. With the Dodgers already taking a hard look at the back end of their rotation, it's going to be hard not to call up Clayton Kershaw in the interim, even knowing that Schmidt might be the eventual answer. Once Kershaw is there, then the question becomes where Schmidt fits, big contract and all.

2008-04-15 19:52:25
143.   whodat807
hoo boy, loney was out by a mile.
2008-04-15 19:52:45
144.   KG16
137 - ok, did I miss the joke about "a"pposite instead of opposite field?
2008-04-15 19:53:56
145.   Bluebleeder87
Steady strikes K/Gou, steady strikes...
2008-04-15 19:54:20
146.   PalmdaleSteve1

Weird Al called it, "Eat it"...

2008-04-15 19:54:48
147.   El Lay Dave
I am not a fan of hit-and-run with Loney as the baserunner.
2008-04-15 19:55:20
148.   Bako Joe
136 I understand that when he's ready, Schmitty will be doing his rehab assignment on the "Island of Misfit Toys".
2008-04-15 19:55:44
149.   dianagramr
Ummm ..... it wasn't THIS Gazoo ... was it?

2008-04-15 19:56:22
150.   KG16
147 - it's not a bad idea, if the hitter holds up his end of the bargain. Tommy use to run it a lot with Karros and Piazza to keep out of the double play. But it's a gamble, because if the runner can't steal, and the hitter doesn't get a pitch to drive, you get what we just saw.
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2008-04-15 19:56:48
151.   dianagramr

a South Park reference???? :-)

2008-04-15 19:56:49
152.   whodat807
The Rivas-G'zoo story was the best anecdote Vin has have told.
2008-04-15 19:56:54
153.   PalmdaleSteve1
148 Sacramento ?
2008-04-15 19:57:15
154.   Andrew Shimmin
147- You're just bigoted against people who are slow. Bigot.

Remember when Tracy got Oscar Robles thrown out ten times in a row because he just couldn't accept that Robles was slow? (Please note: I'm not saying Torre is Tracy. Or Grittle. Just reminiscing.)

2008-04-15 19:57:57
155.   Bluebleeder87
i'm just throwing this out there but you guys don't think he OVER worked out this off-season? seriously, he just looks lost out there (his footwork at the plate & bat tells the story for me)
2008-04-15 19:58:56
156.   Gen3Blue
When things are going this bad, Martin appears to be worn out from last year.
I doubt it is true, and we will eventually reach a stretch when the Dodgers go wild.
But for the present, we are going to be humiliated by the Padres, the Rockies, and especially the Snakes. And this through surogates like Pittsburg and Florida.(Here I don't mention the Nats., from respect for Sam DC.) But I actually like the young guys on the Nats. and hope to see them rise.
2008-04-15 19:59:04
157.   El Lay Dave
150 ... and then when the batter makes out himself, the result is the same as a double play. Much like SBs, I prefer the runners odds be very good to try hit-and-run, because the out is too costly.
2008-04-15 19:59:05
158.   dianagramr
So just how much ARE those baseline box seats going for?
2008-04-15 19:59:08
159.   KG16
155 - who is the he you are referring to?
2008-04-15 19:59:25
160.   PalmdaleSteve1
151 Rudolph the Red Nose

Jason appearing in the role of ____________.

2008-04-15 20:00:42
161.   Bluebleeder87

I look like I can run like the wind but I have really heavy heavy feet, I feel you Andrew.

2008-04-15 20:01:45
162.   regfairfield
154 He was a short middle infielder, how was Tracy supposed to know?
2008-04-15 20:02:08
163.   El Lay Dave
154 But not prejudiced; I observed that they were actually slow first. And yes, Tracy/Robles: ugh.
2008-04-15 20:02:49
164.   Bako Joe
Foreman Elf....
2008-04-15 20:03:04
165.   Andrew Shimmin
The thing is, Loney doesn't even look fast. He looks like he should be faster than he is, but it's not like he's deceptively slow. He's gloriously, transparently slow.
2008-04-15 20:05:11
166.   Bluebleeder87
Russell Martin KG16. I'm gonna go with what Gen3Blue is saying, he's just to good to go thrue a prolong slump like this.
2008-04-15 20:05:13
167.   dianagramr

Tom Nieto slow?

That slow?

2008-04-15 20:06:20
168.   StolenMonkey86
Kuo got off to a nasty start, but 5 Ks in a row is just plain awesome.
2008-04-15 20:06:29
169.   El Lay Dave
167 Boog Powell slow.
2008-04-15 20:07:22
170.   dodgerinlv
Fill in the blank for our 20 year drought.

The curse of _____________.

2008-04-15 20:07:23
171.   Andrew Shimmin
167- Before my time, I'm afraid. He's not Molina-slow. But he is slow. Night at the ballet, slow.
2008-04-15 20:07:23
172.   scareduck
No disrespect to Vinny, but courage is grace under pressure.
2008-04-15 20:07:37
173.   El Lay Dave
168 32 pitches in the first, 30 over the next two. He's gotta be done after this inning due to pitch count, I imagine.
2008-04-15 20:09:01
174.   Gen3Blue
Darn: I wanted to see a Kuo flip of the bat badly at this point. We are in one of those stretches where a chain of events that could lead to even one run is almost totally impossible, and this made me sad to see Kuo throw so many balls in a sequence.
2008-04-15 20:09:15
175.   dianagramr

Courage is a half-decent RUSH album?

2008-04-15 20:09:21
176.   scareduck
170 - Tommy Lasorda. My favorite trope is that Lasorda plays Faust, and has sold the Dodgers' future success to the Devil in order to win in 1988 and get himself in the Hall of Fame.
2008-04-15 20:09:58
177.   Disabled List
170 The Curse of Fred Claire. I've already theorized on this.
2008-04-15 20:10:03
178.   StolenMonkey86
170 - Are there any curses to explain why all the Dodgers WS wins have been in the era after all of the Giants WS wins?
2008-04-15 20:10:09
179.   KG16
157 - obviously, you don't do it a lot, especially with slow guys. But I don't think that was necessarily a bad spot to try it. Hitter's count, not paying much attention to Loney at first, etc.
2008-04-15 20:10:28
180.   Rob M
Vin said that was Troncoso in the bully, but it looked like Loaiza to me.
2008-04-15 20:10:33
181.   Bluebleeder87
aside from looking pretty I don't know what purpose the grass serves not to mention the trees, what are they???
2008-04-15 20:11:18
182.   scareduck
176 - it certainly explains Delino for Pedro, and the exile of Paul Konerko.
2008-04-15 20:12:27
183.   neuroboy002
165 Glorious and poetically slow? Like the morning dew hanging off the leaf of a blooming rose?

I'm tired of these 1 - 0 games. Where's our offense? Crimine.

2008-04-15 20:12:28
184.   scareduck
178 - the curse of Leo Durocher?
2008-04-15 20:14:07
185.   Duranimal
Hong-Chih Kuofax?
2008-04-15 20:14:48
186.   Bluebleeder87

talking about the bullpen decoration, mah!

2008-04-15 20:16:28
187.   Disabled List
182 It was Fred Claire who made the pact with Lucifer in 1988. Signing Mike Davis and Don Sutton, and trading Bobby Welch for Alfredo Griffin and Pedro Guerrero for John Tudor should've sank the team that year.

The Dodgers have been paying the devil's due ever since.

2008-04-15 20:16:30
188.   scareduck
158 - $125-$285.
2008-04-15 20:16:40
189.   KG16
178 - the price they pay for stealing signs
2008-04-15 20:17:11
190.   scareduck
186 - I like it! Heh.
2008-04-15 20:17:44
191.   StolenMonkey86
13 Pitch inning and strikeout number 6.

6 strikeouts through four - just seems like his name should have a K in it. :)

2008-04-15 20:17:49
192.   Jon Weisman
Beware a double switch at the end of this inning.
2008-04-15 20:18:57
193.   StolenMonkey86
192 - I think I know Hu that might involve.
2008-04-15 20:19:14
194.   Bluebleeder87
the grass is o.k. I guess but I still don't know what to think of the stuff around the bullpen, look at our boy Kemp, wootzah!!
2008-04-15 20:19:26
195.   Bako Joe
Speaking of signs...great catch in the pavilion of Furcal's double by the guy with the banner. Too bad he'll probably get booted for having the banner.
2008-04-15 20:19:46
196.   El Lay Dave
186 If I were a relief pitcher, I'd rather hang out in a pen with less dirt and more grass.

I think Bill Lee was like that, but in a different way.

2008-04-15 20:19:55
197.   dianagramr
Ethier is on my fantasy team .... ergo, he must get a hit here
2008-04-15 20:20:40
198.   neuroboy002
170 The curse of Jason Romano. "I save Brian Jordan's life and have a good Spring Training the following year yet you won't let me crack the team as even a 4th outfielder. Good luck landing another body guard... and World Championship!" Dum, dum, dum.
2008-04-15 20:20:41
199.   scareduck
"Whoa! Did he lift Morris's wallet!" Heh.
2008-04-15 20:20:57
200.   Andrew Shimmin
193- It better. But I don't think that's why Jon was warning us.
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2008-04-15 20:21:01
201.   KG16
192 - Kou should be able to go another inning. If you're only going to have your starter go 4 innings, why not have it be Loaiza?

Nice steal by Kemp, 2 RBIs coming up here for Andre

2008-04-15 20:21:01
202.   Lefty Supremacist
I'm half-amazed, half-depressed watching Kuo... I'm amazed that he's still throwing, and throwing 90MPH after a million operations, but I'm depressed knowing that he used to touch triple digits.
2008-04-15 20:21:27
203.   scareduck
197 - may he get plenty more.
2008-04-15 20:21:36
204.   Bluebleeder87
so you guys think Kou will stay in there (i'd keep him WITH A SHORT LEASH) what do you guys think? how many pitches has he thrown anyways.
2008-04-15 20:21:42
205.   Gen3Blue
Lord, you have to let these young pitchers work through these things, even if they give up two or three runs.Don't pull Kou yet, unless you have a death wish. Where is our offense? Who knows, but it is non-existent. Ive heard a theory that the low teams have a bunch of good young pitchers.
All we need at this point is Estaban. Are you here to teach our lead guitar? No but I will get you GEICO and humiliation.
2008-04-15 20:21:47
206.   madmac
2008-04-15 20:22:10
207.   KG16
Andre is going to have a ton of RBIs if he keeps hitting behind Furcal and Kemp.
2008-04-15 20:22:10
208.   Jon Weisman
193 - I was thinking an outfielder if they went out in order, but now they're probably safe.
2008-04-15 20:22:25
209.   StolenMonkey86
201 - Stretching him out. Kuo hasn't thrown 100 pitches in a while, so 75 might be a reasonable stopping point.
2008-04-15 20:23:33
210.   whodat807
What role does Loaiza realistically serve for this ball club? Starter-wise, Park outpitched him in spring training, Kuo has outpitched him in the regular season; as a long reliever, Park has proven to be adequate, not to mention Loaiza has never been a reliever. What a terrible pick up he was.

On a more pleasant note, our young guys are looking good today! Loved the speed that Kemp just flashed.

2008-04-15 20:23:47
211.   Bluebleeder87
keep that streak alive Loney
2008-04-15 20:23:50
212.   dodgerinlv
The curse of selling out to FOX
2008-04-15 20:23:51
213.   scareduck
Dodgers are now Kuo-dependents.
2008-04-15 20:24:46
214.   KG16
209 - if Kuo comes out, after 4 IP, 2 H, 3 BB, and 6 K, it will bite the Dodgers.

Unless of course the Dodgers continue to manufacture runs.

2008-04-15 20:24:46
215.   El Lay Dave
Torre should plan on pitching Loaiza long enough that he'd bat at least once anyone, so a double switch wouldn't seem reasonable, right?
2008-04-15 20:25:04
216.   scareduck
212 - problem I have with that interpretation is that a lot of people were excited to be getting out from under Peter O'Malley's muddled ownership.

Nice job by Loney to cash in another one.

2008-04-15 20:25:19
217.   StolenMonkey86
14 games!
2008-04-15 20:25:59
218.   El Lay Dave
Left-eye Loney extends his streak!
2008-04-15 20:26:23
219.   Jon Weisman
Kuo is on a limit.
2008-04-15 20:26:28
220.   KG16
210 - Loaiza is PVL insurance, Park/Kuo/Schmidt all have injury histories; none of the prospects have a track record that the front office trusts.
2008-04-15 20:27:17
221.   Bluebleeder87
wow, that out to far right center field from Russell Martin looked like the Russell of old or at least he looked like he was right on the pitch.
2008-04-15 20:27:25
222.   whodat807
Keeping Kuo in could burn the Dodgers worse. You need to be careful with an arm as fragile as that; don't want to keep him out there for 100 pitches when he hasn't touched that all season long. The man has had like seven arm surgeries, for Pete's sake.
2008-04-15 20:27:56
223.   Indiana Jon
They might want to stop running Crazy Eyes.
2008-04-15 20:28:07
224.   KG16
Ok Joe, you are making it hard to defend when you run Loney twice in one game.
2008-04-15 20:28:13
225.   Disabled List
God, I hate outs on the bases.
2008-04-15 20:28:50
226.   StolenMonkey86
Time to put a red light on Loney
2008-04-15 20:30:00
227.   Andrew Shimmin
Slow as the process Torre's using to decide whether Kemp is better than Pierre.
2008-04-15 20:30:20
228.   El Lay Dave
Was that a busted hit-and-run also? Torre trying to help Jones a little perhaps?
2008-04-15 20:31:01
229.   StolenMonkey86
Is Loaiza going to bat, or did Torre forget about double switches?
2008-04-15 20:31:03
230.   KG16
222 - perhaps, but after a wild first inning, he seems to have it under control, I don't like the idea of pulling a pitcher because of a pitch count and only a pitch count. Perhaps pulling him is the right move, or at least the safe move, but it's likely not the move I would have made.
2008-04-15 20:31:56
231.   scareduck
227 - we will DFA no useless outfielder before its time.
2008-04-15 20:32:48
232.   El Lay Dave
229 Who did you want to pull? Loney? Martin? Doubtful.
2008-04-15 20:33:02
233.   StolenMonkey86
230 - Fair enough, but I'd rather make the safe move. The safe move means that we'll have Kuo later.
2008-04-15 20:33:14
234.   scareduck
225 - today's Angels/Rangers game was fun in that regard. Two totally useless Rangers baserunning errors, including one that was arguably induced by a stupid 3B coach maneuver.
2008-04-15 20:33:19
235.   KG16
228 - nope, Jones never took the bat off his shoulder.
2008-04-15 20:33:58
236.   Bluebleeder87
man, who is Torre watching, I mean Loney screams out I'm slow on the base paths.


on a limit..

2008-04-15 20:34:05
237.   StolenMonkey86
232 - probably Kent, put Hu in at 2nd
2008-04-15 20:34:14
238.   immouch
i'm not concerned with power right now
2008-04-15 20:34:32
239.   Jon Weisman
230 - Well, you're fired :)
2008-04-15 20:34:37
240.   El Lay Dave
230 Since they pulled K/Guo from the 5th starter competition early, he wasn't stretched out for starting in ST this year. This is a little like the tail end of ST for him.
2008-04-15 20:35:10
241.   StolenMonkey86
all right - 1,2,3 inning from Loaiza
2008-04-15 20:35:19
242.   Gen3Blue
Loney is a wonderful hitter. Whoever is encouraging him as a runner is doing a huge disservice to both Loney and the team.

Playing Ethier and Loney is a given and a wonderful thing. The same thing will most likely happen with Kemp and a healthy Laroche. Eventually one would have a winning team and perhaps even more. Its not that hard to visuallize for anyone but the people running the team. Why?

2008-04-15 20:35:25
243.   whodat807
220 - I don't recall Park ever having a long stint on the DL... then again, he has stunk up the place for the past three years, so I guess that's just as bad.

I know Loaiza is there to fifth starter, but he hasn't been decent in several years, gets paid 7 million dollars, and has never pitched in long relief. Plus he's right handed, in a rotation full of 'em. If he's not in that 5 spot (and Kuo sure looked comfy in that position, didn't he?), then I really don't see what he contributes to the ballclub. But I guess he's got a big contract and we're stuck with him.

2008-04-15 20:36:52
244.   Disabled List
I don't necessarily have a problem with playing hit-and-run with a slow runner on the bases. But maybe it's not such a good idea with Andruw "Swinging Strike" Jones at the plate.
2008-04-15 20:37:44
245.   scareduck
Druw walks. Progress!
2008-04-15 20:38:13
246.   StolenMonkey86
Andruw clogged first.
2008-04-15 20:38:27
247.   El Lay Dave
237 Kent is the seventh spot from now. With any luck, that spot hits in the second inning. I really think you plan for Loaiza to go at least three and that he will hit at least. Pitcher up third is not that bad; if no one reaches, he's hitting with two out and no one on, a low probability situation anyway, and if anyone reaches, he can bunt.
2008-04-15 20:38:39
248.   dianagramr
hey .... a new Harold and Kumar movie is coming out!
2008-04-15 20:40:37
249.   Bluebleeder87
to much lift on the ball from DeWitt.
2008-04-15 20:40:53
250.   madmac
almost DeWitt
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2008-04-15 20:41:36
251.   Gen3Blue
Please hit for Loiaza.

Never mind.It may be over.

2008-04-15 20:42:01
252.   gpellamjr
2008-04-15 20:43:38
253.   scareduck
252 - <rule 11 violation>


2008-04-15 20:43:52
254.   El Lay Dave
243 He lost a lot of 2003 and 2004 to injuries.
2008-04-15 20:44:22
255.   bluefoundglory
do you guys think that dewitt is capable of having more than just warning track power?
2008-04-15 20:45:22
256.   Bluebleeder87
You can't help but be pleased with how well Furcal has come back from a disastrous '07.
2008-04-15 20:45:50
257.   El Lay Dave
255 Yes.
2008-04-15 20:46:10
258.   scareduck
255 - it's possible.
2008-04-15 20:46:30
259.   scareduck
Paulino finally bounces one too many.
2008-04-15 20:46:45
260.   KG16
the Pirates catcher does seem to have trouble throwing the ball to second base.
2008-04-15 20:46:58
261.   El Lay Dave
256 Yes.
2008-04-15 20:47:09
262.   scareduck
243 - re Park, the Rangers beg to differ.
2008-04-15 20:47:40
263.   underdog
Well, neat. I tuned in just in time to see Jackie Robinson's # steal second. How'd the Dodgers get their runs? I only saw them down 1-0 then left for awhile.
2008-04-15 20:47:49
264.   gpellamjr
253 That was an expression of frustration with Steiner's call of DeWitt's fly ball.
2008-04-15 20:48:27
265.   KG16
It's a beautiful thing to watch, a robot made of nails rounding second base.
2008-04-15 20:48:33
266.   Indiana Jon
This Kemp guy has a nice stroke. We should take a look at him more often.
2008-04-15 20:48:35
267.   scareduck

How did you like that ball that stuck between the wall and the track?

2008-04-15 20:48:36
268.   MMSMikey
thats how you drive a ball into the right center gap, pierre cant do that. take notes, joe.
2008-04-15 20:48:40
269.   Bluebleeder87
Year of the Bison™
2008-04-15 20:49:05
270.   El Lay Dave
263 R. Furcal ground rule double to deep left center
- M. Kemp singled to center, R. Furcal to third
- M. Kemp stole second
- A. Ethier doubled to left, R. Furcal and M. Kemp scored
- J. Kent grounded out to shortstop
- J. Loney singled to right, A. Ethier scored
2008-04-15 20:49:33
271.   underdog
Well, now I know how they got their 5th run. Nice to see Jackie swinging the bat so well, too.
2008-04-15 20:49:48
272.   Disabled List
God, I love triples.
2008-04-15 20:49:53
273.   PalmdaleSteve1
Hey, wasn't that a Pirate coach who picked up the ball and threw it back to third base, or was that the catcher?


2008-04-15 20:50:29
274.   underdog
270 - Thanks. Y'all are more succinct and enlightening than Gameday.
2008-04-15 20:51:05
275.   KG16
What's amazing is Kemp hit that the opposite way, off the hands, "inside out" as they say...

for a triple.

2008-04-15 20:51:45
276.   El Lay Dave
Powered by The Bison™
2008-04-15 20:51:51
277.   DodgerOkie88
wow! I knew Kemp was fast, but... wow, that was awesome!
2008-04-15 20:52:33
278.   MollyKnight
There's a Bison loose on the bases, and it's a beautiful, beautiful sight. Roam free, big guy.
2008-04-15 20:53:30
279.   KG16
269 - that reminds me of one of my favorite books as a kid... In the Year of the Boar and Jackie Robinson
2008-04-15 20:53:34
280.   whodat807
On the subject of Chan Ho's injury history, I stand corrected. I guess I blacked out those Ranger years out of resentment.

Boy, Kemp sure can fly. I've resisted the urge to go nuts over the whole Pierre/Kemp platoon situation, but the way he's been playing, I might end up joining the mob by the end of the week.

2008-04-15 20:55:11
281.   scareduck
265 - Kemp's new nickname.

HOFer Kent smacks one into the LF bleachers, and thank you very much.

2008-04-15 20:55:19
282.   bluefoundglory
when it rains...
2008-04-15 20:55:43
283.   underdog
Kent may not be able to run very well these days, but, you know, he sure can hit the ball far sometimes.
2008-04-15 20:55:54
284.   KG16
It's nice seeing Kent hit a home run, but not quite as fun as seeing Kemp rope a triple, or Ethier or Loney have RBI doubles.
2008-04-15 20:57:12
285.   Slipstream
And to think, this whole inning only happens because of Andruw's walk.
2008-04-15 20:57:13
286.   underdog
The one glass-is-half-empty comment I'll make tonight:
Boy, I sure hope this isn't the Dodgers weekly 11-1 win followed by a series of losses where they can hardly score.

Okay, glass-is-half-empty comments over.

2008-04-15 20:58:09
287.   Gen3Blue
Who is the fastest guy on the Dodgers--probably Kemp.
Who has the best outfield arm on the Dodgers--Probably Kemp

Now that Kent hit that, I think we might win. When it was 5-1, I didn't think we would win if Loiaza pitched.

2008-04-15 20:58:29
288.   KG16
24 minutes for the Lakers to hold a 14 point lead and secure home court
2008-04-15 20:59:31
289.   neuroboy002
285 I'm still not ready to give phat boy that much credit.
2008-04-15 20:59:41
290.   CodyS
Wow, figured out how to do arithmetic and maintain the aspect ratio of the picture. What a great day. It's a little funny seeing all the 42s. Like some science fiction movie.
2008-04-15 20:59:51
291.   Bluebleeder87
the Dodgers definitely needed a game like this, hopefully it's a sign of things to come.
2008-04-15 21:00:43
292.   El Lay Dave
That was the first three-run homer of the season for the Dodgers.
2008-04-15 21:00:44
293.   larry slimfast
The Curse of Al Campanis.
2008-04-15 21:00:58
294.   KG16
And Vin gives us another reason why the Giants haven't won it all since coming out west
2008-04-15 21:01:54
295.   micktissue
I wonder what the topic of conversation was at home when Kent came in behind Dre and Bison?

"Hey, you kids are alright!"

2008-04-15 21:02:20
296.   oshea2002
Wolf has a no-no through 6.
2008-04-15 21:02:30
297.   Dave60
As I understand site protocol, it's okay to mention that an interesting game is underway in San Diego, correct?
2008-04-15 21:03:18
298.   gpellamjr
296 Dude. You've been around too long for a rookie mistake like that.
2008-04-15 21:03:51
299.   LogikReader

Yea I was gonna say...!

2008-04-15 21:04:11
300.   Bluebleeder87
You've got plenty of runs to work with Loaiza just throws strikes.
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2008-04-15 21:04:39
301.   Bako Joe
You know its our night when Loaiza misses Russell Martin's glove by six inches and it drifts right over the center of the plate for called strike 3, rather than getting pounded.
2008-04-15 21:04:40
302.   scareduck
295 - "You moved the #&%^ trash can again."
2008-04-15 21:04:58
303.   El Lay Dave
297 Yes.
2008-04-15 21:05:11
304.   jasonungar07
As Kemp ran around 2nd, if you look closely, you can see Juan Pierre in the far corner of the dugout calling his agent.
2008-04-15 21:05:11
305.   scareduck
301 - or the Dodgers are playing the Pirates.
2008-04-15 21:05:40
306.   CodyS
God, you guys are negative. Loaiza was good recently. When was it? Oh yeah, 5 DAYS AGO, getting 10 guys in a row. You have to give the guy a break and throw out last year completely. He was good in spring, he's pretty good now, give him a little chance.
2008-04-15 21:05:41
307.   KG16
I just got a chill seeing Nomar in the dug out... and not the good kind of chill.
2008-04-15 21:06:10
308.   scareduck
290 - maybe the Dodgers can hope for a science fiction double feature.
2008-04-15 21:06:10
309.   Bluebleeder87
I secretly like that he jinxed them, & thanks for the heads up also :o)
2008-04-15 21:06:20
310.   El Lay Dave
Matt Kemp at this moment:

.306 / .306 / .500 / .806

2008-04-15 21:06:26
311.   underdog
Wouldn't mind seeing Russell take a breather the rest of the night.
2008-04-15 21:06:31
312.   Dave60
303 Thanks. It's been an interesting night with Morris, Kuo, and Wolf in my fantasy team rotation, along with Kemp and Ethier in the outfield.
2008-04-15 21:08:32
313.   El Lay Dave
Loaiza threw only 17 pitches to get through two innings. Let's hope he can finish this thing and give the rest of the bullpen the night off.
2008-04-15 21:09:28
314.   underdog
306 I agree - Loiaza basically will often have one bad inning, and then really settle down. If that one bad inning isn't too bad, he can essentially be an effective starter. And as a long reliever, he could be just fine.
2008-04-15 21:10:10
315.   Xeifrank
Just got back from my softball game. Looks like Guo did well, except for that first shaky inning that I heard on the radio. Besides that inning, how did he look? Did they take him out on pitch count?
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:10:10
316.   underdog
My MLBTV is broken again. It showed Jones lacing a ball hard for a double. What really happened?
2008-04-15 21:10:18
317.   scareduck
First multihit game of the year for Jones. Nice!
2008-04-15 21:10:29
318.   KingKopitar
Blake Dewitt kind of looks like Eric Bana. Actually, I guess he looks like Dan Cortese.
2008-04-15 21:12:32
319.   KG16
I was really hoping the Solution was going to put one in the parking lot after the split screen with Nomar.
2008-04-15 21:12:42
320.   MMSMikey
jones has 2 hits?
2008-04-15 21:12:49
321.   scareduck
317 - oops, forgot his earlier plate appearance ended in a walk, not a hit.
2008-04-15 21:13:27
322.   Bob Timmermann
Move along people, nothing more to see in San Diego.
2008-04-15 21:13:34
323.   Nagman
296 Nice jinx.
2008-04-15 21:13:46
324.   KG16
6-2/3, no longer interesting in San Diego
2008-04-15 21:14:47
325.   El Lay Dave
Baseball etiquette allows pitchers to sacrifice irrespective of the size of the lead, right?
2008-04-15 21:14:50
326.   Xeifrank
I had to look up who was pitching for the team that plays in the southern most part of the state. vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:15:03
327.   Gen3Blue
For my pessimsim of Loiaza, I have to credit him with a good SB.(sac-bunt)
2008-04-15 21:16:01
328.   micktissue
323 jinxed it too:

"Wolf no-hitting Rockies through six innings"

I mean,come on ...

2008-04-15 21:17:15
329.   Jon Weisman
302 violated the rules. 296 did not.
2008-04-15 21:17:31
330.   underdog certainly doesn't care about the no-no jinx.

Man, what's up with the Rockies' offense, speaking of slow starts...

2008-04-15 21:18:12
331.   Disabled List
328 DT commenters and teammates in the dugout are the only ones who are subject to Rule 9. Everyone else - including entities whose job function is to inform people about baseball - is exempt.
2008-04-15 21:18:49
332.   CodyS
I was just reading about Los Dodgers. I did not know Ethier and LaRoche are both Mexican-Americans. That's great.
2008-04-15 21:19:03
333.   El Lay Dave
329 Oh, I thought no-no was a no-no.
2008-04-15 21:19:18
334.   Xeifrank
329. Why didn't 296? Seemed like a pretty obvious Rule 9 to me. Just wondering why the judges saw it that way.
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:20:07
335.   oshea2002
323 - that's what I was going for.

Its better for them anyway, his pitch count was already over 100, could have been a problem.

2008-04-15 21:20:15
336.   Bluebleeder87
I'd be conferrable with a 15 run lead & Loaiza pitching.
2008-04-15 21:20:30
337.   underdog
Okay, the ad for "Under One Roof," a new sitcom starring that renowned comic genius Flava Flav, looks like it may possibly be the worst thing ever aired on television. It looks like a satire of a bad sitcom you'd see on In Living Color. Except it's real.
2008-04-15 21:21:25
338.   Xeifrank
Do you bring Pierre in as a late inning replacement so your starters don't get hurt?
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:21:28
339.   micktissue
334 Rule 9?
2008-04-15 21:22:10
340.   dodgerinlv
Jon, is your brother-in-law a dentist in LV?
2008-04-15 21:22:25
341.   Louis in SF
Did anyone pick-up what I thought was a hint by Vin that once Nomar is activated on Friday, it is not certain that The "Solution" will be sent down. He said Torre has an option, no details, just wondering if he knows something.
2008-04-15 21:23:21
342.   dodgerinlv
341 probably Troncoso, don't you think?
2008-04-15 21:23:34
343.   KG16
339 - bottom left of the page, little list entitled "Thank you for not..."

Rule 9 is "typing 'no-hitter' to describe any no-hitter in progress"

2008-04-15 21:23:47
344.   Bluebleeder87

only thing you need to know is 32 pitches in the 1st inning, he K'd plenty of batters like always but the 1st inning did him in.

2008-04-15 21:23:51
345.   Xeifrank
339. There are site rules on the right hand side bar, scroll way down and look at #9. Somehow 296 escaped on a technicality. I guess the glove didn't fit.
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:23:57
346.   John Hale
Anyone catch the "Everybody Hates Chris" episode last night? Chris's dad explains to Chris's brother why the Dodger's are better then the Met's. Not sure if they planned it but was nice to have it timed with the Jackie Robinson anniversary.
2008-04-15 21:23:57
347.   El Lay Dave
339 See "Thank You For Not ..." on the right sidebar, near the bottom.
2008-04-15 21:24:09
348.   underdog
341 Could be they'll go with one less pitcher - send Troncoso down. That'd be my guess anyway.
2008-04-15 21:25:20
349.   micktissue
343 It moved over to the right side on my screen. Thanks for pointing it out.
2008-04-15 21:25:57
350.   KG16
349 - what can I say, I'm ambidextrous, or something
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2008-04-15 21:26:09
351.   gpellamjr
348 I've been assuming that's what they'll do. I imagine DeWitt will stay with the team until LaRoche is good to go.
2008-04-15 21:26:37
352.   KG16
Bob, what's our standing?
2008-04-15 21:27:04
353.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I'm sure Bob already was all over the 5 sac flies in Seattle , but I'm more interested in Kansas City's glut of Gs: Grienke, Gobble, Gload, Gordon, Gathright, Guillen, German and Grudz.
2008-04-15 21:27:17
354.   Bluebleeder87
It's just amazing watching Kemp sometimes, just great.
2008-04-15 21:27:20
355.   KG16
352 - disregard that, it was an error and I thought Kemp hit a double earlier too
2008-04-15 21:27:30
356.   Bob Timmermann
There are no alerts present that I'm aware of.
2008-04-15 21:27:35
357.   Branch Rickey
So now all Pierre has on Kemp in "nice guy". Kemp should work on that to make sure Torre has no reasons.
2008-04-15 21:28:07
358.   Reddog
That is one fast Bison!
2008-04-15 21:28:32
359.   micktissue
I hope DeWitt will stay up as he's been showing a lot to me so far. Nomore at third just messes with things fung shui and other-wise.
2008-04-15 21:28:32
360.   Telemachos
You know, one of the joys of listening to Vin these days is hearing him gush about Matt Kemp.
2008-04-15 21:28:55
361.   jtrichey
Even the home official scorer is in on the anti-Kemp conspiracy. Since when do they give errors on a slight double clutch? :)
2008-04-15 21:29:36
362.   El Lay Dave
Does Kemp's speed causes errors too?
2008-04-15 21:29:44
363.   gpellamjr
357 I don't know what he can do. Anything I hear him say in interviews makes him sound confident, mature, and willing to learn. Maybe he should come to the ball park 8 hours before every game and measure the length of the grass.
2008-04-15 21:30:07
364.   dodgerinlv
Lakers are ringing the cow bells!!
2008-04-15 21:30:33
365.   micktissue
360 Maybe Vin can mention something to Joe about the Bison on his team?
2008-04-15 21:30:52
366.   tjdub
On a business trip to OH this week and I'm heading out to see the Greatest Offense of All Time face Sabathia tomorrow. All week I've wanted to poke a little fun but it looks like they've turned it around a bit.
2008-04-15 21:32:24
367.   Branch Rickey
360 He does occasionally fall in love with certrain players. The last one I remember was Cesar Izturis. Hopefully Kemp will be better.
2008-04-15 21:32:24
368.   El Lay Dave
Two PAs in a row Jeff Kent came up with two runners on, and twice he left the bases empty. Ah, but.
2008-04-15 21:32:32
369.   underdog
I like seeing 9 runs on 10 hits. Now that's efficient. More of that please.
2008-04-15 21:33:14
370.   KG16
364 - looks like Kobe's regular season is done.
2008-04-15 21:36:06
371.   underdog
Wow. I am pretty sure none of us would've predicted the Lakers would get the #1 seed in the tough Western Conference when the season started. That prediction would've been laughed at. I was hoping for a 5 or 6. And now Bynum's coming back, too.
2008-04-15 21:36:43
372.   Bluebleeder87

He always liked the combo of Izzy & Cora (I did too!) Vinnie loves watching speed on the base paths specially big outfielders like Mondesi & such, it's a treat to watch.

2008-04-15 21:38:22
373.   underdog
C'mon Loiaza. Don't make them tap into someone else in the 'pen tonight.
2008-04-15 21:38:26
374.   Jon Weisman
334 - I don't know who came up with "interesting," but that caught on and I saw no reason to stop it. But I use "no-no" all the time. It was never banned.

340 - He sure is.

2008-04-15 21:38:49
375.   dodgerinlv
371 nice tune up for the playoffs
2008-04-15 21:39:29
376.   Jon Weisman
331 - In theory, anyone in my general vicinity in the real world is also subject to rule 9, but I don't have control over them.
2008-04-15 21:40:38
377.   Xeifrank
334. So can we type "no hitter" w/o the hyphen and be ok. Or "hits=0". Or they have "no hits"? Where do we draw the line?
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:41:47
378.   scareduck
Yay Russell Martin!
2008-04-15 21:42:03
379.   Xeifrank
377. Was for 374 of course.

Looks like the Dodgers didn't get much help from the Rockies and Giants tonight. Does that vault us out of last place? vr, Xei

2008-04-15 21:42:32
380.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Since when does Russ go the way of Andy Van Slyke and Mark Grace? Is that a new thing?
2008-04-15 21:42:46
381.   LeeLacy
There's the Golden God we all know and love!
2008-04-15 21:43:34
382.   Jon Weisman
It has been almost 17 years since a Dodger reliever finished a game with a performance of 5 innings or more and got the win.

2008-04-15 21:43:40
383.   Branch Rickey
Hmm... We apparently have five guys (Kemp, Martin, Kent, Ethier, Jones) very capable of hitting home runs to the opposite field.
2008-04-15 21:43:43
384.   pen
Hooray Martin!

By the way, anyone notice that he wasn't wearing batting gloves?

2008-04-15 21:43:49
385.   underdog
Golden God!

Nice to see.

And nice to see Druw continue to improve, too.

Probably nice to see Meek pitching, too.

Okay, Dodgers, let's save a little for the rest of the week, eh?

2008-04-15 21:44:01
386.   micktissue
369 Make that 10 on 12. Yea.
2008-04-15 21:44:01
387.   scareduck
Yay Blake DeWitt!
2008-04-15 21:44:07
388.   Xeifrank
if Loaiza were to finish the game, would he get a save??? He did pitch effectively for five innings. vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:44:14
389.   dodgerinlv
374 He told me about the site. Nice guy. He's my dentist.
2008-04-15 21:44:30
390.   silverwidow
LOL, this morning someone said this was a "bad" team. What a joke.
2008-04-15 21:44:39
391.   KG16
388 - nope, he gets the win since Kuo didn't go 5
2008-04-15 21:44:52
392.   Jon Weisman
377 - You cannot type "no hitter" because that's the same as saying it. The latter two ... I'd just rather you didn't, though they're more subjective.
2008-04-15 21:45:11
393.   LeeLacy
317 You were seeing into Andrew Jones future.
2008-04-15 21:45:14
394.   Xeifrank
388. Well, for four innings. Five if they kept him and he finished well.
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:45:35
395.   Who Is Karim Garcia

That's what I was referring to when I said he went the way of Andy Van Slyke and Mark Grace.

No gloves certainly looks odd. I bet we see home do that for a while.

2008-04-15 21:45:44
396.   Jon Weisman
Yep, he's a good guy and a huge fan. He came in to go to the Coliseum game with us.
2008-04-15 21:45:58
397.   Xeifrank
392. I'm surprised you let "no no" slip through. I really don't know what to say. :)
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:46:57
398.   Bob Timmermann
Since the save rule was put in place in 1969, the most innings pitched for a save was 7 by Joaquin Benoit of Texas in 2002.

Not that Loiaza will get a save here.

2008-04-15 21:47:01
399.   Xeifrank
Well duh, he gets the win. :)
vr, Xei
2008-04-15 21:47:06
400.   silverwidow
Bedard to the DL. Didn't someone want to trade Kemp for him?
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2008-04-15 21:47:08
401.   Jon Weisman
Check out Roger Craig's relief work in this game:

2008-04-15 21:47:17
402.   scareduck
329 - so, if DT allowed audio posts, bleeps would count? Wow.
2008-04-15 21:48:29
403.   underdog
I didn't even realize until tonight that Chris Mihm was back playing.
2008-04-15 21:49:50
404.   KG16
I just noticed the ads on the out field wall, I really don't like seeing ads on the out field wall...
2008-04-15 21:49:59
405.   Branch Rickey
401 And the losing pitcher (some guy named Spahn?) pitched 5.2 innings in relief!
2008-04-15 21:50:09
406.   Bob Timmermann
We referenced that game last year when the Dodger relievers had a game almost as good against the Padres last year.

10 2/3 IP with just one hit allowed by the pen.

2008-04-15 21:50:29
407.   micktissue
401 I remember that game like it was 49 years ago.

Was that the longest single game relief appearance innings-wise I wonder?

2008-04-15 21:51:16
408.   scareduck
Dodgers win! We love LA!
2008-04-15 21:51:39
409.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I hate to ask again, but I really wondering if Russ not wearing batting gloves is a new thing for him.

Anyone, Bueller, anyone?

2008-04-15 21:51:50
410.   Bako Joe
Come on official scorer....reconsider and give the Bison his 3rd hit. Way to go Blue!
2008-04-15 21:51:52
411.   underdog
Druw sure can cover some ground out there in center. Hope we're not gonna have to hear too many more fat jokes at this point.

Hey, kudos to Loiaza for a great job in relief.

And... we win!

2008-04-15 21:52:43
412.   underdog
409 Yes, I do believe it is a new thing for him. And perhaps he may keep doing it after tonight.
2008-04-15 21:53:24
413.   underdog
Night folks. Hope the Dodgers have something left over for tomorrow's game. 'til then.
2008-04-15 21:54:17
414.   Eric Stephen
So the Lakers and Celtics will be the #1 seeds in their respective conferences. This is the first year both teams are the top seeds since a five year run from 1984-1988.

The two teams were also #1 seeds together in 1982, 1980, 1972, 1965, 1963, and 1962.

2008-04-15 21:55:21
415.   Bob Timmermann
Since 1956, the longest relief stint by a pitcher has been 13 innings by Lindy McDaniel for the Yankees on August 4, 1973.
2008-04-15 21:56:15
416.   Jon Weisman
Really incredible accomplishment for the Lakers. Whatever happens from here on out, I'll be impressed.
2008-04-15 21:57:20
417.   dodgerinlv
396 Brad told me about the site after I told him about going to Fantasy Camp last spring. Funny thing. Maury was my coach. We talked a few times after camp. Once he called me when I was in the chair at Brad's office.
2008-04-15 21:57:33
418.   neuroboy002
Andruw Jones - one less home run than Russell Martin, one more RBI than Esteban Loaiza.
2008-04-15 21:58:13
419.   tjdub
401 405 Interesting to see Spahn in relief. Was a rain storm predicted to hit in the middle innings?
2008-04-15 21:59:10
420.   Bob Timmermann
In Roger Craig's 11 inning relief stint, he threw just 88 pitches.
2008-04-15 21:59:35
421.   overkill94
388 Considering Loaiza is on my fantasy team (as you can tell, it's a very deep NL-only league) I was hoping for the win and the save, but apparently you can only get the win in that situation. I'll still take it :)
2008-04-15 22:04:09
422.   Who Is Karim Garcia
own up to it, overkill.... you took Loaiza with your 5th round pick.

That league must be really deep.

2008-04-15 22:04:29
423.   dodgerinlv
Hate to be downtown with Dodgers and Lakers ending at the same time.
2008-04-15 22:07:33
424.   Bob Timmermann
It's happened before and it's usually not as bad as you would think. Only the 110 gets crowded.
2008-04-15 22:20:50
425.   Jon Weisman
2008-04-15 22:27:33
426.   scareduck
419 - not that I can tell from the Times' recap.
2008-04-15 22:28:28
427.   Xeifrank
I thought it was pretty classless that Charlie Steiner was asking if Chaka Khan, who sang the Natl Anthem before the game was related to Genghis Khan. vr, Xei
2008-04-15 23:20:36
428.   Andrew Shimmin
It's not funny, but I don't see how it was classless.

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