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The Dodger Thoughts 2007 Spring Training Primer
2007-02-04 05:00
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Hey, it's February! Did you hear me? February! Pitchers and catchers ... and infielders and outfielders, they're all going to be, you know, reporting!!

Man, it feels like it's been forever, but believe it or not, we're just about ready to get to it.

So around this time every year, I preview Spring Training, with the caution that while it's fun to see bats and balls back in action again, Spring Training battles are overrated. Drawn to conflict like shepherds to pie, people spend a month agonizing over who will win the position of least significant player on the 25-man roster. Strangely compelling, I know, but sometimes it's easy to get carried away.

In any case, I take the time to point out the players that are going to Spring Training just for show and should quickly be dismissed, and what inevitably happens is that at least one of those players ends up playing a noteworthy role.

Previewing 2004, it was Yhency Brazoban.

Yhency Brazoban, RHP: Acquired from the Yankees in the Kevin Brown trade. With a 2.83 ERA in 28 2/3 innings for Class A Tampa, he's the best player in the world named "Yhency."
In 2005:

Oscar Robles, IF: Almost 29, he had some nice Mexican League numbers in 2004. Listed at 5-foot-11, 155 pounds, he is that rare player thinner than me.

D.J. Houlton, RHP: Rule 5 draftee needs to make the team out of Spring Training or be sent back whence he came: odds strongly against it.

Last year was a humdinger, though at least I saw something in a player who would be called The Bison:

Check Back in a Year or Two
Matt Kemp, OF: A true outfield prospect, it's not impossible that the 21-year-old Kemp could be the first of the 2005 Vero Beach Dodgers to make the bigs.

Fodder
Joe Beimel, P: ERAs below 4.00 last year with Durham and Tampa Bay. He's been assigned uniform No. 97 - not for sentimental reasons as far as I know. (Note: Actually, it turned out that it was.)

Eric Stults, P: Some kind of wonderful? Jacksonville 2005, 3.38 ERA; Las Vegas 2005, 6.58 ERA.

Takashi Saito, P: This year's Norihiro Nakamura, pitching side. A 36-year-old (on Valentine's Day) pitcher with a 3.82 ERA in Japan last season doesn't excite.

Ramon Martinez, IF: Do we really need to force the Dodgers' original Ramon Martinez to compete in the team encyclopedia with a 33-year-old infielder who OPSed .639 last year?

Fodder's Fodder
Aaron Sele, P: The Ghost of Scott Erickson. The 35-year-old hasn't had a major-league ERA below 5.00 since 2002, and he barely strikes out a batter every three innings.

Not that I didn't get a lot of the others right, but still, it's sort of amazing to me that you can enter the exhibition season with a group of players you think will make the team, and then a tier beneath that of alternates, and then still have a tier beneath that capable of surprising you. Fun with fallibility!

So on we go to this year's Spring Training Preview, with an eye on which invitees will make the 25-man Opening Day roster ...

Locks (18)
Only a disabling injury or a trade can stop these guys from making the Opening Day roster:

Starting Pitchers: Derek Lowe, Brad Penny, Jason Schmidt, Randy Wolf

Bullpen: Takashi Saito, Jonathan Broxton, Brett Tomko, Mark Hendrickson

Catchers: Russell Martin, Mike Lieberthal

Infielders: Nomar Garciaparra, Jeff Kent, Rafael Furcal, Wilson Betemit, Olmedo Saenz

Outfielders: Luis Gonzalez, Juan Pierre, Marlon Anderson

Most Likely to Succeed (7)

Andre Ethier, OF: The biggest non-lock lock, I'm only hedging my bets in the slightest in the event that his September slump continues in March, and the Dodgers start to wonder. It's not as if Dodger manager Grady Little isn't capable of deciding Ethier shouldn't start, and if that happens, Little may recommend a month in AAA to kickstart Ethier's season. Many consider Kemp and James Loney to have a higher ceiling than Ethier, and it's not impossible that they could be climbing the ladder while Ethier stumbles.

Hong-Chih Kuo, P: In contrast to Ethier, the question here is whether Kuo can build upon a hot end to the season. He pitched better as a starter than as a reliever, so perhaps it's rotation or bust, but these things can change in a moment. It seems likely that they'll find a spot for him, rather than see him waste healthy innings with that exciting arm in the minors.

Chad Billingsley, P: Has every right to believe he should be in the 2007 rotation, but plenty of reason to expect he'll start the season in the bullpen. Working against him making the first five in April is the notion that he might be able to fill a bullpen role better than Kuo (to me, evidence is still circumstantial) and that like any young pitcher, softening his innings at the start of the season could have long-term benefits. Working against him even making the Opening Day bullpen is that at times last year, he did a tightrope walk to keep his ERA down, escaping a lot of jams.

If Randy Wolf looks shaky in March, maybe he'll be the one to get the bullpen slot for a while, with the excuse being that he just needs a little more time in his comeback from Tommy John surgery. Think about it, then forget it.

Joe Beimel, P: Last year's fodder is this year's lefty specialist - probably. Hendrickson is guaranteed more money and has the potential of doing the same job while serving as a backup starting pitcher, and there are just too many alternatives to the arbitration-eligible Beimel for him to be a sure thing. But he'll probably be there.

Ramon Martinez, IF: The acquisition of Julio Lugo last summer buried Martinez: He reached base four times after August 1, including his game-winning 16th-inning home run August 29. Lugo's gone, but Anderson isn't, and he can play some infield. There's no doubt the Dodgers want to keep Martinez around - they just resigned him in the offseason, after all - but if you're not hoping that enough players develop to push him off the roster, something's wrong.

James Loney, 1B: Here's where the fun (or agony) begins. Poised to enter the lineup the moment Garciaparra or Gonzalez land on the disabled list, Loney could also start in right field. He could also end up in AAA to keep his bat fresh, though after he led the minors in batting average, few want to see that (even if leading the minors in batting average does not preclude you from improving.) A 12-man pitching staff would likely push Loney off the roster if no position player began the season injured - but how likely is complete Dodger health? There's no reason for the Dodgers not to carry five outfielders, and little reason one shouldn't be Loney, especially when he can also give Garciaparra a breather.

Jason Repko, OF: With Pierre signed to start every game in center field, and with the Dodgers boasting four potential righties off the bench in Lieberthal, Saenz, Martinez and Andy LaRoche, Repko is the 25th man - and that might be his peak. In fact, I originally put LaRoche ahead of Repko, but changed my mind at the last minute on the theory that Betemit would get a chance to be a full-time third baseman, and the Dodgers would want to see LaRoche dominate AAA first. Plus, justified or not, Repko just has that late-inning Gonzalez defensive replacement feel. Another thing that would boost Repko's Opening Day roster chances immeasurably is if the Dodgers were brave enough to let Garciaparra play some third base (but don't count on it).

Next in Line (6)

Andy LaRoche, 3B: With Betemit perhaps begging for a platoon partner, the promising LaRoche has an outstanding shot at making his major league debut ASAP. I'm not impressed that people say LaRoche has fully recovered from his labrum surgery - we've been led astray before - but he can still be considered a strong candidate to make the team.

Matt Kemp, OF: Could the Dodgers be rooting against Kemp having a big spring and complicating their outfield plans? Doubtful, but he could really create havoc if he hits like he did last July. The thing is, there's little reason for the Dodgers not to set their decision about Kemp in stone now: Spring Training stats are meaningless, so a power binge by Kemp in Vero Beach shouldn't make a difference. On the other hand, if he gets in some good licks against some legitimate major league offspeed stuff, it will be hard for the homer-starved Dodgers to look away. Basically, expect Kemp to start out tearing up Las Vegas and threaten to make Gonzalez or Ethier a reserve or trade bait by Flag Day.

Elmer Dessens, P: All kinds of scenarios put Dessens on the team, except the most likely one, because there are still at least 11 pitchers ahead of him. Kansas City is paying his 2007 salary as a result of the complicated Odalis Perez trade, so Dessens is like a free lift ticket on a stormy day at Mammoth - you can force yourself to make use of it, or you can forget it and keep cozy and warm. The funny thing is, he's not a hopeless reliever, and it might make the most sense for the Dodgers to trade Tomko to a team that needs starting pitching, pick up a prospect and let Dessens be the middle-inning righty behind Broxton and Saito. (That might also make Tomko happier.)

Chin-hui Tsao, P: A former top prospect with Colorado who hasn't pitched competitively in almost two years, Tsao is exactly the kind of low-risk gamble that can add zest to your bullpen stew and make demoted starters like Tomko even more expendable. But whether Tsao is major-league ready remains to be seen.

Jonathan Meloan, P: A fifth-round draft pick in 2005, Meloan is rocketing upward. In his 91-inning minor-league career, he is averaging 14.3 strikeouts per nine innings against exactly nine baserunners. Though he has only 10 2/3 innings of experience above A ball, fans in the know are salivating at the prospect of having two Big Bad Jons in the bullpen.

Fernando Tatis, 3B: Here's what I wrote about Olmedo Saenz in 2004 ...

Getting no publicity right now as a roster candidate, the 33-year-old Saenz had a 113 OPS+ in 2002 before missing much of 2003. Doesn't hit the home runs that (Jose) Hernandez does, but sort of resembles Jolbert Cabrera - some doubles, some walks and a disproportionate number of HBP (42 in 1,076 career plate appearances). My official dark horse.
Tatis, despite slugging .500 in 56 at bats for Baltimore last year, does not inspire the same optimism, but with his two grand-slam name a couple good spring at-bats and a general manager disinclined to give rookies key roles in April, Tatis could steal a roster spot.

See You Mid-Season? (13)
Yhency Brazoban, P: For one stretch during my 2-year-old son's lifetime, Brazoban was the Dodgers' top reliever when Eric Gagne wasn't available. Still a mere 25, Brazoban will begin the year in the minors or on the disabled list as he recovers from Tommy John surgery, but by summertime he may be one of the best relievers available to add to a major-league roster.

Larry Bigbie, OF: The lefty outfielder had a 120 OPS+ with the 2003 Orioles, but has had little to show since. Whie he could surprise, the most likely outcome for Bigbie is a Larry Barnes-like cup of coffee in 2007.

Eric Stults, P: Stults pitched admirably in two starts in September, most notably at Shea Stadium, but the development of the Dodger rotation has buried him. One question on Stults' mind might be whether the Dodgers would turn to him for a spot start before Hendrickson.

Greg Miller, P: Yes, it was Miller who, with Edwin Jackson, was the high hope for the Dodger rotation three years ago. Miller was coming off a year in which he sizzleaned the Florida State and Southern leagues with a 2.21 ERA as an 18-year-old. Health problems followed, but he may be on the way back. Based on how often the Dodgers rotated players in and out of their bullpen last year, there's no reason to think Miller couldn't get a turn.

Tim Hamulack, P: Driftwood. He struck out a batter an inning with the Dodgers in 2006, but allowed two baserunners per frame in the process. He is the only participant in the ninth/10th-inning collapse at San Diego April 30 yet to be exorcised by the team.

Eric Hull, P: Pitching mainly in relief, Hull kept his ERA with Las Vegas down to 4.19, struck out more than a batter an inning, but had almost as many walks allowed as hits. In 2005, he had a 3.38 with AA Jacksonville as a swingman.

Delwyn Young, OF: The 24-year-old regressed in 2006 (.783 OPS in AAA Las Vegas) and finds a real uphill battle ahead of him. Converted from second base to the outfield, he is now blocked. Though he hit 18 homers with the 51s, don't look for much out of him until at least 2008.

D.J. Houlton, P: The sometimes 2005 No. 5 starter spent 2006 in Las Vegas and posted a 5.60 ERA, striking out 7.3 batters per inning. If you look at his month-by-month record, a poor May killed his chances of coming to the Dodgers' rescue when Odalis Perez melted down, but he showed some improvement as the year went on. Like Stults, he is now buried, but like Stults, he could come up and hold a team to three runs in five innings on a given day - meaning that he's another guy to have in the AAA rotation as insurance.

Damian Jackson, UT: OPSed .666 as a reserve with Washington last year. Just one of those guys looking wistfully at Ramon Martinez the other.

A.J. Ellis, C: At the catcher position, you have your starters, your veteran backups, and then your young players aspiring to be veteran backups. Ellis, 26 the day of the home opener, is in the latter group. He OPSed .677 in Jacksonville, which puts him in position to be a butt-splinter reserve should Martin or Lieberthal get hurt. At the very least, he could be the No. 3 catcher when rosters expand.

Ken Huckaby, C: Huckaby, a 22nd-round draft pick by the Dodgers in '91, spent seven years in the organization without ever playing a regular season game for the team. He racked up close to 300 of his 450 career major-league plate appearances with Toronto in 2002. He will probably compete with Ellis to be the first catcher called up.

Dario Veras, P: Anyone remember the great Quilvio Veras kerfuffle of 2003? A former starting second baseman with San Diego, Veras batted .294 in Spring Training with the Dodgers that year, causing some of the exhibition enrapturable to fret about the Dodgers letting him go. (It turned out to be the last major league baseball ever saw of him.) Dario, a pitcher listed at 6-1, 155, was originally a Dodger signee from the Dominican Republic and enjoyed a nice 29 innings with the Padres of '96. Baseball Cube has nothing on him after 2001, but he was described as an "ace closer" for a Taiwan team last season and threw some decent innings in winter ball.

Rudy Seanez, P: Seanez threw his first professional pitch more than 20 years ago and has appeared in 760 games when he hasn't been taking advantage of that timeshare he bought at DL Boca Vista. Retirement appears to be beckoning - it's not as if he can't knock out the occasional 1-2-3 inning, but if he makes the team, Dodger Spring Training will have taken some hairpin turns.

Check Back in a Year or Two (5)

Scott Elbert, P: Sandwiched between Billingsley and Clayton Kershaw in the "Let's get excited" line of starting pitchers, Elbert has struck out 346 in 310 2/3 minor-league innings. Sure to start the season in the minors, Elbert very possibly will finish it there to keep his service clock at zero. That's not to say he couldn't outpitch some guys that will make the team, but at the same time, with five walks per nine innings in the minors, it's not as if he has nothing to work on. He turns 22 in August.

Tony Abreu, IF: The Baseball Cube hasn't yet figured out that he's the same guy as Etanislao Abreu. Progressing gently up the ranks.

Zach Hammes, P: Wild but effective enough in Vero Beach in 2006, then raised some eyebrows with a 1.23 ERA in winter ball, Hawaiian-style. Only three inches shorter than Hendrickson.

Mike Megrew, P: Pitched in Vero Beach in 2004 (3.41 ERA in 22 starts), missed most of 2005, then returned to Dodgertown in 2006 (3.52 ERA in 53 2/3 innings.) Turned 23 in January.

Chin-lung Hu, SS: Long considered a defensive whiz, playing in the Southern League predictably depressed his stats. Moving up to Vegas should help remedy that, but his bat is still a huge question. Perhaps within a couple of years, we'll learn how many runs he can drive in with his glove. He turned 23 Saturday.

Luke Hochevar, P: Just kidding.

Fodder (3)
Wilson Valdez, IF: Only a few people know why Valdez was added to the 40-man roster, and they've been mum up to now. He has no bat and a terrible stolen-base rate, and Hu is the guy with the defensive rep.

Matt White, P: Revised by commenter Benaiah: "The good: he is left handed, in his peak productivity years and doesn't give up many home runs (.85 for his career in the minors). The bad: he doesn't strike out many (6.61/9 in the minors), walks plenty (3.71/9), and has 4.16 ERA in the minors, plus he has gotten rocked in brief appearances with Seattle, Boston and Washington. He was solid, with so-so peripherals in AAA last year, at 29 years old. He is the longest of long shots to make the team."

Jeremy Hill, P: The Dodgers signed the 29-year-old Hill, who threw 10 1/3 innings with the 2002-03 Kansas City Royals, on Friday. He had a 3.62 ERA with Newark last season.

Fodder's Fodder (2)

Sandy Martinez, C: Hey, he's only 34 - way younger than Pat Borders. On the other hand, he has four major-league hits this century. This is what a vintage AAA backup looks like.

Travis Smith, P: The righty reliever has bounced around for 11 professional seasons. His 111 2/3 innings in the bigs are his bragging point; his 6.53 ERA in the process will still charm his grandkids.

Comments (281)
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2007-02-04 06:52:05
1.   Bumsrap
Dewitt?
2007-02-04 07:00:35
2.   Bumsrap
The 18 locks as you say leave 7 and at least three of those seven will be pitchers.

I think Repko will be the fourth outfielder and Martinez will be the utility player so for me that leaves 2 position players left and only one if the Dodgers go with 12 pitchers to start April.

I will stick my neck out and say Loney and Ethier will make the April team as well.

2007-02-04 07:09:51
3.   Sam DC
Drawn to conflict like shepherds to pie,

Haven't had time to read much yet, but thanks already for that.

2007-02-04 07:11:24
4.   Vishal
whenever i hear the phrase "driving in runs with his glove", i picture the guy in the batter's box swinging with his leather instead of his wood.
2007-02-04 07:13:32
5.   Vishal
btw, what is "sizzleaned" (in the bit about miller)?
2007-02-04 07:16:33
6.   Marty
Vishal has never experienced the taste explosion that is Sizzlean.

It's a bacon substitute.

2007-02-04 07:19:40
7.   D4P
I'm hoping Hamulack makes the roster, just so we can call him "Driftwood".
2007-02-04 07:55:59
8.   Bumsrap
4
In France they can do both simultaneously.
2007-02-04 07:58:19
9.   Bumsrap
6
So which player do we nickname Sizzlean?
2007-02-04 08:04:59
10.   Bumsrap
I would enjoy watching the 51s if their lineup were like this one:

1b Loney
2b Dewitt
3b LaRoche
ss Abreu
lf Ethier
cf Kemp

Rotation;
Bills, Kuo, Elbert, Maloan, Miller

2007-02-04 08:16:48
11.   Daniel Zappala
Nice writeup, Jon. Maybe it's the cloudiness of my youth, but I've always thought of the Dodgers as a team that relied on home-grown talent. But looking a the locks, it's amazing how much this team has changed in the past few years. Only two (Martin, Broxton) are from our minor league system, the rest are free agents.

Looks like another year with many different endings possible, depending on how the story plays. Performance or injuries could change the OF, 3B, and many other positions. The bullpen especially looks like a rough draft. If we start with a bullpen of 7, I'd bet at least four spots will be different by the end of the year, likely even 5.

I can't wait for the season to start! And whoever is pushed onto the 51's roster, I'll see them in the opening series against the Bees.

2007-02-04 08:46:12
12.   Vishal
[11] betemit is sort of from our farm system. well, he's from aybar who was from our farm system. but i think we'll see fewer free agents necessary in the next few years. hopefully our rotation will someday feature the likes of kuo, billingsley, kershaw, and elbert :)
2007-02-04 08:46:36
13.   Jesse
anyone heading out the weekend of the 8-11th? im going for the first time and wanted to know what i should hit up.
2007-02-04 08:46:49
14.   Vishal
[6] i'd rather eat real bacon or none at all.
2007-02-04 08:50:05
15.   Suffering Bruin
Aw, yeah. This is the good stuff that I've been missing.

As my students might say, "DAAAAYYYAAAAMNNN! This #@$% is goooooood!!" (actual quote from student after watching Kurosowa's "Throne of Blood.")

2007-02-04 08:54:30
16.   Gen3Blue
Thanks Jon for a nice piece of work probably partly done in the wee hours. I had been engaged in baseball through the transaction season but the last two weeks I hit the doldrums; this could be the start of this season for me.

10 I know I go to far in this respect, but,if you add Furcal to your lineup(moving Abreu to second, and I would enjoy watching this lineup in Dodger Stadium in April. I'm tired of Vets even though they have their points.

2007-02-04 09:14:04
17.   Woody
I'm so excited! Not only will I get to see the Dodgers play three exhibition games in Vero the third week of March (Cards, Mets, Orioles), but this coming Saturday I'll see our new heroes, Juan Pierre and Luis Gonzalez, play in the University of South Alabama "Hall of Fame" all-star classic. My greatest hope is that perhaps Juan and Luis will run into each other in the outfield, and end up being out for the year. Kidding of course! Right?
2007-02-04 09:14:26
18.   Marty
SB, you showed your students Throne of Blood? Nice.
2007-02-04 09:34:33
19.   Vishal
i'm considering going to vero for the 3/16 game against boston and the 3/17 game vs. houston... is anyone else going to vero?
2007-02-04 10:05:36
20.   Greg Brock
Great preview, Jon. Just outstanding.
2007-02-04 10:09:06
21.   D4P
I wouldn't mind seeing a paragraph of text for each of the "Locks" as well.
2007-02-04 10:15:25
22.   Sam DC
21 Would you like maybe a charcoal sketch of each one too?
2007-02-04 10:16:05
23.   Andrew Shimmin
Here, here. More free ice cream!
2007-02-04 10:24:31
24.   bhsportsguy
I had come up with 3 roster spots being available,
Locks:
Pitchers (10): Schmidt, Lowe, Penny, Wolf, Hendrickson, Tomko, Beimel, Dessens, Broxton, Saito

Catchers (2): Martin, Lieberthal

Infielders (6): Garciaparra, Kent, Furcal, Betemit, Martinez, Saenz

Outfielders (4): Gonzalez, Pierre, Ethier, Anderson

Battle for remaining pitching spot and probable 5th starter is between Kuo and Billingsley.

Repko probably gets the 5th OF spot while Kemp gets to spend some more time in Vegas.

Loney has the advantage of being LH on a team with only 1 other LH bat on the bench and he can play both 1B and OF so I think he will get the last spot.

And while it may be hard to believe, would not surprise me if the Dodgers get some feelers for Hendrickson or Tomko (in Tomko's case, the Dodgers would have to pay part of his salary) since starters are always in demand.

2007-02-04 10:25:58
25.   Sagehen
Thanks Jon for giving those of us who hate football something to think about today.

I particularly like your analysis of the Billingsley vs. Kuo competition for the 5th starter job / roster spots.

Looking at the organizational depth chart, I wonder if we might see Abreu before the end of the season. Who else can fill in for Kent if he goes down for awhile? I think Abreu and Hu are getting the spring training invites in order to see if one or the other could be a midseason fill-in (Hu less so, since Furcal is more likely to be healthy than Kent)

2007-02-04 10:28:40
26.   Linkmeister
I remember seeing Tatis's name, but I didn't realize the Dodgers had signed him. To me, beyond the two grand slams he's memorable because one time when he was a Cardinal I heard the broadcasters call his goatee the best one they'd ever seen; it had that pencil-thin neatness that's impossible to believe (or duplicate, and I speak from experience).
2007-02-04 10:36:00
27.   Andrew Shimmin
Thanks Jon for giving those of us who hate football something to think about today.

There's still el Serie del Caribe! Noon Pacific time will see Venezuela vs. Mexico. Then, at four, Republica Dominicana faces off against the home team, Puerto Rico. En vivo, Fox Sports en Espanol! Also available by gameday, here:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/cs/2007.jsp

2007-02-04 10:37:45
28.   Jon Weisman
1 - Essentially, this report just looked at players on the 40-man roster plus non-roster invitees to Spring Training (i.e., major league Spring Training).

21 - I plan to, but this stuff takes time.

2007-02-04 10:46:22
29.   CanuckDodger
Jon, thanks for the preview. You say that Elbert turns 22 in May. His birthdate is actually August 13, 1985. An erroneous May birthdate was publicized when he was drafted, and some sources -- even Baseball America -- keep the mistake alive.
2007-02-04 10:47:18
30.   Jon Weisman
29 -Okay, thanks. Keep the corrections coming if you find anything else.
2007-02-04 10:51:33
31.   Marty
Anybody going to a big super bowl party? I'm going to one hosted by people from Chicago. They flew in pizzas and italian beef just for the occasion. I think they are insane.
2007-02-04 10:52:51
32.   bhsportsguy
Jon, the only thing about Delwyn Young is that this is his last option year so he will either make the team next spring or he will have to be put on waivers.
2007-02-04 10:53:40
33.   Bob Timmermann
Maury Brown had an interview with Jayson Stark on his site. I liked this passage:

BizBall: Can you recall one Useless Info entry that stood out more than others?

Stark: The factoid that I think got the most oohs and aahs on ever was one I came up with in 2004 on Barry Bonds. Barry walked so much that year that even if he'd gotten ZERO hits all season, he still would have had a higher on-base percentage than the guy who LED THE LEAGUE IN HITS (Juan Pierre). I still can't believe that happened myself. Now THAT'S the epitome of useless information.

2007-02-04 10:57:03
34.   deburns
19 Vishal, I'm going to Florida in March,, and those dates work well for me. Let's stay in touch.
Don
2007-02-04 11:35:43
35.   Vishal
[33] of course, if he really got zero hits, he wouldn't have walked so much.
2007-02-04 11:36:16
36.   Vishal
[34] excellent!! i'm working out a possible trip with some friends of mine. i'll let you know what develops.
2007-02-04 11:37:26
37.   Greg Brock
This Super Bowl is brought to me by Norbit? Really?

If Eddie Murphy didn't want to win the Oscar for Dreamgirls, having Norbit released right now is a brilliant move.

2007-02-04 11:39:08
38.   Linkmeister
31 I'm attending the festivities at the same friend's house I've been going to since 1991. Bringing the same dip I've taken the past three years, too.

http://www.linkmeister.com/blog/archives/002250.html

2007-02-04 11:40:29
39.   Greg S
This is a day I always consider to be a special holiday. Forget Super Bowl Sunday, it is the END of the Super Bowl that signals the true beginning of baseball season. Mere hours to go!
For those of you looking to go to Vero, careful of the Red Sox game. It WILL sell out and it will be more Sox fans than Dodger fans. Not a reason not to go but a reason to get your tix ASAP.
2007-02-04 11:43:39
40.   Bob Timmermann
I never get all that excited over spring training. To me, the beginning of baseball season is the end of the NCAA basketball tournament.
2007-02-04 11:47:03
41.   Greg S
40. Buzz kill!
My glass is half full of baseball and I shall take a tasty if ultimately unsatisfying sip from it.
2007-02-04 11:49:32
42.   Bob Timmermann
I prefer "wet blanket".
2007-02-04 11:59:26
43.   Greg S
Can it be a Dodger blanket like the one they gave out at the 4+1 game?
2007-02-04 12:03:37
44.   Bob Timmermann
OK, but I'm not easily fleeced!

[rimshot]

2007-02-04 12:11:18
45.   Greg Brock
So in the lead up to the Super Bowl, I get to hear about the great Bill Walsh's leukemia and a remembrance of Brian Piccolo.

You're executive producer of NFL Today...Debbie Downer.

2007-02-04 12:12:51
46.   Bumsrap
28
I made an assumption that Dewitt was on the 40 man roster and that he was a player Ned and Grady wanted to see this spring since they sent him to Arizona with Martin et al. to have his body worked on.
2007-02-04 12:14:32
47.   Bumsrap
How many will record the super bowl so they can fast forward through the game to see the commercials?
2007-02-04 12:16:21
48.   Marty
I'm willing to take the Bears and the 7 points if anyone wants to bet.
2007-02-04 12:32:16
49.   Bob Timmermann
47
Me! I likely won't start watching until 5:30 or so.

Talk to you folks later!

2007-02-04 12:47:24
50.   Andrew Shimmin
Mexico is looking like a strong bet to go through this tournament winless. Down three nothing in the first. With men on the corners and one out.
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2007-02-04 12:58:10
51.   Andrew Shimmin
Bad news: Seven nothing, now, on Oscar Salazar's home run. Good news: there are finally two outs.
2007-02-04 12:58:30
52.   D4P
Would you like maybe a charcoal sketch of each one too?

Autographed

2007-02-04 13:06:15
53.   skybluestoday
If DJ Houlton really strikes out 7.3 batters per inning, then we should probably take another look at him, despite his high ERA!

;-)

2007-02-04 13:07:25
54.   alex 7
dangit sky, you stole my line.
2007-02-04 13:09:46
55.   skybluestoday
ya snooze, ya lose!

;-)

2007-02-04 13:10:19
56.   alex 7
if it's raining in Miami, I would think this should benefit the Bears. I say they cover, but lose. If it's clear, I'll take Indy by 7. Just punt the ball out of bounds. Everytime.
2007-02-04 13:26:55
57.   GoBears
Nicely done, Jon. Thanks for the synopsis. And "like a free lift ticket on a stormy day at Mammoth" was especially inspired.
2007-02-04 13:41:24
58.   Sam DC
57 I was going to tip my hat to that line as well, which really captured the idea wonderfully, but after 3 I thought that might be bad form.
2007-02-04 13:47:45
59.   Sam DC
Xei infiltrates the New York Times: "General Tso's (or Zuo's) chicken is . . ."
2007-02-04 13:48:50
60.   trainwreck
As always, nice job Jon.

When did we get Larry Bigbie?

2007-02-04 13:52:31
61.   Andrew Shimmin
Karim Garcia just got thrown out of the game, with in two sentences of arguing the call. Puerto Rican umpires brook no dissent.
2007-02-04 14:59:38
62.   Pepperdine
Is there any consensus/scouting report on LaRoche's defense? I haven't heard much about that.
2007-02-04 15:28:58
63.   Andrew Shimmin
62- PECOTA has his defense being average to slightly below average.

I'm glad I didn't take Marty up on 48. Actually, I couldn't have, since I'm not talking to him till he formally retracts his calumny against San Dimas.

2007-02-04 15:49:45
64.   D4P
Am I the only one not watching the "Super" Bowl...?
2007-02-04 16:02:41
65.   Andrew Shimmin
CBS has fifty cameras at the game. 0% of them have clean lenses.
2007-02-04 16:29:20
66.   D4P
Maybe someone spilled coffee on the coffee house TV screen...
2007-02-04 16:31:49
67.   still bevens
Think people here might have an interest in this. Found this via another message board. Alex Cora's 18 pitch AB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oApywnGqLrw&NR

2007-02-04 16:33:07
68.   Andrew Shimmin
This is what I imagine cataracts will look like.
2007-02-04 16:41:11
69.   LAT
67. Thanks bevens, I was there and never got to hear Vin's call.
2007-02-04 16:41:23
70.   D4P
"will" or "would"...?
2007-02-04 16:43:35
71.   Andrew Shimmin
70- You're right. I shouldn't bet on living that long. Let's say, "might."
2007-02-04 16:44:27
72.   D4P
I shouldn't bet on living that long

Have you managed to quit smoking...?

2007-02-04 16:47:32
73.   twerp
38 "Bringing the same dip I've taken the past three years, too."

I was going to comment that maybe you should expand your circle of friends so as not to be stuck with the same dip.

But you had to go ruin it by linking to a recipe...

2007-02-04 16:48:19
74.   still bevens
This super bowl is starting to bore me. Why is the Caribbean series not on fsn right now? Oh Fox you disappoint me so...
2007-02-04 16:50:36
75.   Daniel Zappala
So will they hold a Super Bowl in Los Angeles even though the city has no team? At least it won't be likely to rain in Pasadena.
2007-02-04 16:52:59
76.   Andrew Shimmin
74- The first game ran long (it takes a while to score thirteen runs). But the second one, with undefeated Puerto Rico vs. undefeated DR should start soon. I think.
2007-02-04 17:11:31
77.   LAT
Do they disclose how much Price is being paid for this show?
2007-02-04 17:19:14
78.   still bevens
OMG announcers on the Caribbean game just mentioned the 18 pitch at bat. The universe has aligned.
2007-02-04 17:23:12
79.   Andrew Shimmin
Didn't we decide, last year, that Super Bowl performers don't get paid?
2007-02-04 17:24:59
80.   Andrew Shimmin
Well, sort of. Starting at 100:

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/318082.html

2007-02-04 17:30:03
81.   LAT
I didn't know who I was rooting for when this game started. But now its clear the Bears must win.
2007-02-04 17:33:11
82.   LAT
Thanks Andrew. Nice weather Price had to tolorate for free.
2007-02-04 17:34:03
83.   LAT
How many 1st downs and points will the Bears give up before they cover that short pass down the middle.
2007-02-04 17:34:33
84.   Andrew Shimmin
It might have been dangerous, too, if his guitar had been plugged in.
2007-02-04 17:37:27
85.   bhsportsguy
Next 3 Super Bowl sites:
UOP Stadium, Glendale AZ
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa Bay, Fla.
Solphin Stadium, Miami, Fla.

Last Super Bowl in California, 2003 in San Diego.

Last Super Bowl in Los Angeles area, 1993 at the Rose Bowl.

2007-02-04 18:22:44
86.   Andrew Shimmin
I think I may have been rash in rejecting Marty's offer. And the whole demanding an apology thing. If you're out there, Marty, as a gesture of contrition, I am now willing to take you money, er, bet.
2007-02-04 18:28:35
87.   LAT
How many Chicagoians will be lamenting "if only we had Jim McMahon. . ."
2007-02-04 18:35:33
88.   Andrew Shimmin
Alright Marty, you drive a hard bargain, and what do you say we just forget about the point spread? Really. You take the Bears, I'll take the Colts, come what may. Deal?
2007-02-04 19:04:15
89.   bhsportsguy
Indy becomes the 23rd team to cover the spread in the Super Bowl. Underdogs have won 11 times, won with the points 5 imes and tied the game twice with the points.
2007-02-04 19:09:05
90.   Andrew Shimmin
I wanted to be the first to say that Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback of all time. But Boomer beat me to it.
2007-02-04 19:13:20
91.   Andrew Shimmin
Jim Isray has some philanthropies of his own.
2007-02-04 19:47:27
92.   Midwest Blue
Pretty hard to win a Super Bowl with a one-handed QB who trips over his own feet.
2007-02-04 19:49:18
93.   Marty
Hah! I changed my mind and gave the points to all my Chicago friends. Best superbowl I"ve seen in years.

And yes Andrew, that is pretty much exactly what cataracts look like.

2007-02-04 19:52:51
94.   Daniel Zappala
Most predictable Super Bowl I've seen. Far better QB brings his team downfield over and over, settling for FGs against a good defense. Team with good running game but inept QB can't move the ball at all and turns it over when they get desperate.

It was pretty sad that the Bears offense was so bad that Indy felt they could squib kick every time, give them possession at the 35 or 40, and not care.

Bob, this was definitely Tivo-able.

2007-02-04 20:04:56
95.   Bob Timmermann
All done! Yea!

The Colts have now played in three Super Bowls and committed 15 turnovers in them.

Five against the Jets in a loss.
Seven against the Cowboys in a win.
Three against the Bears in a win.

2007-02-04 20:08:29
96.   Greg Brock
Well, the game sure was sloppy, but the outcome was fantastic. Now people who hate Peyton Manning for whatever made up reasons are hating life, and that makes me happy.

It's all on you now, A-Rod.

2007-02-04 20:12:04
97.   Linkmeister
From my blog, here's my reaction in full:

"I don't know about you, but by halftime it felt to me and to those I was watching the game with that the Colts were up by at least two touchdowns and were going to win going away.

Grossman's two interceptions at the end were the worst two passes I've seen a pro quarterback throw in years. They looked like volleyball bump hits."

2007-02-04 20:45:29
98.   D4P
All right. If no one wants comment 98, I'll take it.
2007-02-04 20:48:09
99.   Bob Timmermann
I don't like to make comments that are multiples of 7.
2007-02-04 20:49:03
100.   Bob Timmermann
Except, of course, comments #42 or #49
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2007-02-04 20:49:48
101.   Andrew Shimmin
98- That can be one of your philanthropies.

I forgot to respond to your question earlier: no. But it was folly to think I could get through the holidays without my filthy crutch. I think, though, that taking four months off (give or take) rested my lungs up to handle the winter falling-off-the-wagon. I haven't decided for sure, but I think I'll take up quitting, again, once baseball season starts. When I return to the warm, glowing, warming glow of my cocoon.

2007-02-04 20:55:50
102.   D4P
That can be one of your philanthropies

OK, but don't expect too much from my philanthropies. They don't compare well to those of the USC song girls.

When I return to the warm, glowing, warming glow of my cocoon

What, pray tell, is your "cocoon"...?

2007-02-04 20:59:11
103.   underdog
Gack, even the Super Bowl commercials were boring this year (most of them - I liked the survivalist office ads for careerbuilder.com and the Robert Goulet ad). I started to feel sorry for Rex Grossman after awhile, although I don't know why they continued to draw up long pass plays for him. Oh well, hats off to the Colts.

I was much more excited by the Broncos-Packers super bowl highlights I watched on ESPN earlier this week.

(Oh, and back on topic - excellent write-up Jon - makes me excited for spring training and seems like the Dodgers will have some good options in a lot of the roster spot battles.)

2007-02-04 20:59:54
104.   Andrew Shimmin
That's when I stop going places, or seeing people, because I'm watching the game every night.
2007-02-04 21:02:41
105.   D4P
Do "going places" and "seeing people" increase the likelihood of you leaning on your filthy crutch...?
2007-02-04 21:04:44
106.   Bob Timmermann
105
There he goes again, grabbing all the multiples of 7.
2007-02-04 21:07:44
107.   Andrew Shimmin
Indubitably. Though clowns, politics, and feelings don't help.
2007-02-04 21:12:26
108.   D4P
Maybe you need to go to a different kind of place and see a different kind of people.

And while I can see a person having a hard time avoiding politics and feelings, are you really subject to clown exposure on a regular basis...?

2007-02-04 21:15:42
109.   Daniel Zappala
We need to do an intervention on Andrew.
2007-02-04 21:16:37
110.   Andrew Shimmin
It's just knowing that they exist. Like racism. Frankly, I don't understand how other people cope with it so (seemingly) effortlessly.
2007-02-04 21:17:42
111.   Andrew Shimmin
Yes, let's take Super Bowl Sunday and turn it into public therapy night for Andrew. You SABR-types really are weenies.
2007-02-04 21:18:22
112.   D4P
112!!!
2007-02-04 21:22:04
113.   D4P
111
This isn't about us, Andrew, it's about you.
2007-02-04 21:28:06
114.   D4P
And maybe you need to start hanging out with more weenies
2007-02-04 21:41:45
115.   Andrew Shimmin
Sorry, stepped out for a smoke. You were saying?
2007-02-04 21:45:46
116.   Daniel Zappala
Okay ... so ... Stults or Dessens? Discuss.
2007-02-04 21:48:15
117.   das411
61 - That is new Phillie Karim Garcia!

Who here would do a Stults + Loney for Delmon Young deal?

2007-02-04 21:49:00
118.   Andrew Shimmin
Dessens. Just because, if Colletti lets him go for nothing, again, there's no telling what he'll give up to reacquire him, mid-season.
2007-02-04 21:50:50
119.   D4P
if Colletti lets him go for nothing, again

Without offering arbitration...!

2007-02-04 21:53:15
120.   njr
I recently took a friend to "Slava's Snow Show" at UCLA (sort of like Cirque Du Soliel. all clowns). He got deathly white as it started and turned to me and informed me that he's terrified of clowns. It was a really enjoyable 2 hours in a schodenfroid kind of way.
2007-02-04 21:55:21
121.   regfairfield
Dessens. The Dodgers already have three lefties in the pen and Dessens is cheaper.
2007-02-04 21:56:44
122.   regfairfield
117 In a heartbeat. Stults is basically worthless and while Loney is nice, right now he seems to be on the Sean Casey career track. Young has the potential to be a superstar.
2007-02-04 21:57:05
123.   Daniel Zappala
Would you sub Stults for Hendickson if you could? Stults instead of Tomko? He's gotta be something of a cult hero for what he did to the Mets, right?
2007-02-04 22:03:39
124.   Andrew Shimmin
the Sean Casey career track.

Repent or Burn will make you pay for that.

2007-02-04 22:45:52
125.   Bob Timmermann
Eric Stults is a hero on a par with Dick Calmus.
2007-02-04 22:48:56
126.   CanuckDodger
Who wouldn't trade Loney and Stults for Delmon Young? The Devil Rays, for sure. Young probably will be a superstar.

I don't have a problem comparing Loney to Sean Casey as players. Their skill sets are very similar. I do have a problem with projecting Loney to follow a Sean Casey "career track," simply because Casey's career track has been too bizarre for one to project anybody else to duplicate it, except by fluke. Casey has had three seasons with an OPS over .900 -- with a good number of years between the second and third of those seasons -- and has been very disappointing the rest of the time. I think Loney will be consistently closer to the good Casey than the bad one.

2007-02-04 23:03:57
127.   Andrew Shimmin
Of his nine seasons with 300 or more ABs, he's only had two where he OPS+ed better than average for a starting 1B.

Is Casey's defense good? BP is down on it.

2007-02-04 23:25:38
128.   Xeifrank
Super Bowl post game thoughts:
1. I predicted a 30-28 Indy victory. I was a Bears TD away from a very accurate prediction.

2. Half-time show was awful, probably one f the all time worst. The pre-game entertainment show was better.

3. Indy out-coached Chicago. ie - No huddle offense and Bears abandoning the run too early in the game.

4. Cheryl Crow commercial was the worst.

5. In general the commercials were clever, none great but not too many bad ones.

6. The Bill Walsh piece was the best pre-game story.

7. Dan Marino always flips heads. Indy cost themselves 7 points by not knowing this.

vr, Xei

2007-02-04 23:51:45
129.   bhsportsguy
Things to occupy your time between now and Opening Day.

1. Grammy Awards - February 11th
2. NBA All-Star Weekend February 17th-18th
3. Academy Awards - February 25th
4. March Madness begins - March 15th

Opening Day is 8 weeks away, Sunday April 1st.

2007-02-05 07:20:04
130.   Penarol1916
My favorite part of the Super Bowl was when I was falling asleep listening to the news and the weatherman was extremely happy because Indianapolis was going to get a lot of snow on Tuesday, that made me laugh out loud. Other than that, just after halftime I changed the channel to watch The Natural, I was so bored.
2007-02-05 07:35:35
131.   StolenMonkey86
I found myself highly disappointed with the commercials, as other than Fed Ex and Budweiser, I didn't think they were very good at all.
2007-02-05 07:39:59
132.   LAT
Best commercial was the first Doritos where the guy driving gets in an accident looking at the girl on the sidewalk and she causes another accident looking at him. The other Doritos commercial in the supermarket was pretty good too. "Clean-up on asile four!"

The worst was the Snickers commercial. Maybe its homophobia on my part (although I'd like to think not) but I didn't see the point of the commercial at all?

What market research braintrust concluded that an NFL audience, much of which is made up of midwesterner middle aged men, wanted to see two redneck guys kiss at the end of a Snickers bar and then relieve their ackwardness by doing something as stupid as tearing out their chesthair. It wasn't funny and seemed like a strange place to put that commercial.

2007-02-05 07:53:41
133.   Marty
I have to respectfully disagree with Xei Frank. That was the best halftime show I've seen. Prince was terrific.
2007-02-05 07:58:44
134.   Sam DC
Halftime show was a huge hit with my fellow watchers, ages 6-60.

Meanwhile, who else thinks Bob is responsible for this: http://tinyurl.com/3d33ce?

2007-02-05 08:21:40
135.   Marty
My favorite Deadspin comment on last night's game:

You can't really blame Rex since obviously he's not used to playing football in Florida.

2007-02-05 08:56:40
136.   Benaiah
We should definitely hope for a Tomko trade. His contract is such a bargain now that surely some team will trade a 2nd tier prospect for him. Rotate in the live bullpen arms (Meloan, Tsao, Dessens, even Seanez- he strikes out more than a batter per inning but unfortunately walks nearly as many), start Kuo and relieve Billingsley. Loney and Ethier definitely make the team, with Kemp up by mid-season. Repko makes the team, but is replaced by Kemp. Gonzo rediscovers the juice or is injured (hopefully in some way that isn't particularly painful) and goes the way of Mueller. Hey, I can dream.
2007-02-05 08:59:25
137.   D4P
136
Went to Grasshopper on Saturday night. Jeff (the bartender) made me a "Bodhi Tree," and Lauren (the waitress) brought me the Four Dragon Flying Beef dish.

Everything was great. My only complaint is that my clothes always end up smelling like the food after I get home.

2007-02-05 09:02:02
138.   StolenMonkey86
We should definitely hope for a Tomko trade.

Just as long as we don't end up with Rex Grossman.

2007-02-05 09:33:05
139.   Bob Timmermann
134

Hey, I've got mine!

2007-02-05 09:37:11
140.   Greg S
Under the heading of "when trying to please everybody you're sure to please nobody" I don't think a half time show has ever been or will ever be good. Watching a medley of Prnce's 1985 hits is about as great as watching Britney Spears "rock out" with Aerosmith. Whatever.
And I too couldn't help but think about Joe Middle America watching Prince in his hairnet followed by guys kissing over a Snickers. Even if they bet the Colts, they couldn't have been happy.
2007-02-05 09:38:38
141.   Benaiah
137 - Hm... I don't know Jeff (he didn't work there when I was there), I know Lauren (she is a friend of mine, though she didn't work there then either), and don't know those dishes. I am out of the loop! Hopefully, I will get to visit Durham in the next couple of months and hit up the ole G-Hopper.

What are the components in the flying beef dish? Anise and carrots, with the bone in and broth? Watercress and Tomatoes, over dry noodles? I am wondering if it is a rose by a different name.

2007-02-05 09:40:03
142.   JoeyP
132--I agree. The Snickers commercial was horrible. It might have worked if it had been two chics, bc the majority of the viewing audience are men...But I have to think the majority of viewing audiences cringed at that commercial.

The Masters is April 5th-9th...a week earlier than normal it seems. I have to watch that before I fully concentrate on baseball.

Larry Bigbie? I totally missed that signing.

My only bold prediction of spring training 2007: Saito will pitch poorly enough so that Broxton will be the closer for 2007.

2007-02-05 09:53:36
143.   D4P
141
My wife and I couldn't help noticing Lauren's low cut shirt when she would bend over to talk to us.

Don't know all the components in the flying beef. In addition to the fried beef, lots of veggies (peppers, string beans, maybe some broccoli), over "crispy noodle" and a side of rice.

2007-02-05 09:56:23
144.   Benaiah
143 - Ok, then it is a completely new dish. Hmm... Lauren is a bit of a free spirit, but she is also very, very thin. Her shirt must have been non-existent for her to make such a strong impression. When that place opened they had a very strict dress code, but now if you are wearing mostly black then that is fine. The girl servers wore some crazy stuff while I was there, but I stuck to a black button up and slacks.
2007-02-05 10:02:02
145.   D4P
144
She may not be buxom, but the shirt revealed her brassiere and a large portion of that which it was containing.

We didn't make a qualitative judgment either way, just noted the revelation.

2007-02-05 10:02:50
146.   Benaiah
142 - It goes beyond homophobia, or discomfort with seeing too guys kiss. The commercial just didn't work. I was wondering why the guy started eating the other end before they started kissing. It seemed like a bad parody of Lady and the Tramp, only it became ripping their chest hair out. However, the fact that we are talking about it means that it was a very, very successful commercial.

Is it possible to care about something less than I care about Cheryl Crowe's roots six weeks into a the epitome of a sellout tour (one named after a song that doubles as an ad jingle)? Without that affair with Lance Armstrong, would C.C be mercifully out of our lives? Questions I pondered during that commercial.

2007-02-05 10:04:18
147.   Benaiah
145 - Yes, I could see how that could be distracting. It is an uncomfortable thing to see with your wife, for sure.
2007-02-05 10:16:14
148.   njr
Super bowl 2 cents:

I'm with Marty on this one, best half time show ever. Prince is a rock star, a guy who can captivate 75,000 people just by playing a guitar (all the lights and fireworks helped too).

I really loved the coke adds this year. I had seen the first one (Grand Theft Auto parody) in a movie theater last week and thought it was totally brilliant. I also liked the way they handled the black history month add (with the different coke bottles). It does, of course, make me a little sick that Coke is branding themselves as a "do-gooder" company, but it's better than them branding themselves as an exploitative dumb company I guess.

I say the following with zero prejudice. My own tastes often slant steriotypically/historically "gay". But this was an incredibly "gay" superbowl. And I'm not talking about an ill-concieved, homophobic Snikers add. I'm talking about the cirque du soliel pregame and Prince in a hairnet. I wished I could hear what the majority of football fans had to say about it all. I actually wondered if the thought was-- we know all the football guys are gonna watch, how do we get everyone else to watch?

2007-02-05 10:21:57
149.   Jon Weisman
I feel like people are overreacting to the Snickers ad. Aren't we past the point of being shocked or even surprised by this stuff? Men have been kissing each other for comedic purposes for ages now. Sitcoms, SNL - and that's just recently.

While I agree that it didn't ultimately work - tearing out chest hair is a nonsensical way to define manliness - I thought the initial idea of parodying Lady and the Tramp was clever. The commercial sticks in your mind, which is all that Snickers wants.

2007-02-05 10:28:05
150.   blue22
Hey Jon - If I'm not mistaken, I don't think we have "that" Matt White. This is the Matt White that was in the Travis Lee, et al group (the bonus baby):

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/W/Matt-White.shtml

This is the one LA signed:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/W/matt-white-1.shtml

Much ado about nothing most likely, since neither figure to do much.

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2007-02-05 10:29:36
151.   Bob Timmermann
Those of us who worked Sunday just ended up seeing the game action on the DVR and are more offended by the play of Rex Grossman than a Snickers ad.
2007-02-05 10:31:28
152.   Jon Weisman
150 - I don't think Baseball Cube necessarily has their Matt Whites straight - it might be an Abreu-like problem. In any case, here's the Matt White that Dodgers.com has (born 8/19/77):

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425665

2007-02-05 10:32:22
153.   regfairfield
With the group I was with, the Snickers commercial seemed to get the best reaction. I thought tearing the chest hair off worked simply because it was such a dumb idea.
2007-02-05 10:32:52
154.   Bob Timmermann
Oh, and Slate.com declared Jeff Saturday to be the MVP of the Super Bowl. I was really expecting them to tab Jim Sorgi.
2007-02-05 10:35:59
155.   Benaiah
149 - I couldn't care less about two guys kissing. I was just surprised by how dumb the commercial was. Two mechanics start eating opposite ends of a snickers and are amazed at the outcome (the second guy especially, I mean, was he surprised? The guy had it in his mouth). Then, reassert manhood (because gay men aren't men) through masochism (which is pretty freaky in its own way). I hated those "Men of the Square Table" ads for their subtle homophobia (this is what men are, follow these laws to avoid accidentally behaving homosexually), but this was much worse.
2007-02-05 10:41:04
156.   Bob Timmermann
If the Super Bowl telecast is ultimately decided by the type of ads run during it, doesn't the game action become entirely irrelevant then?

It seems that the Super Bowl is sort of like a PBS Pledge Week for big corporations.

"If you buy $200 worth of Doritos, we'll get you back to our showing of the Super Bowl, but first let's look at some other premiums."

2007-02-05 10:41:54
157.   blue22
152 - Could be, but as I understand it, LA didn't sign the Matt White from the Travis Lee/Matt White/John Patterson situation about 10 years ago. That Matt White was the 7th pick in the draft in '96.

LA signed a different Matt White.

2007-02-05 10:46:39
158.   Bob Timmermann
157
The Importance of Being Matt
2007-02-05 10:49:05
159.   CanuckDodger
152 -- Jon, the Matt White who got the ridiculous signing bonus because of a draft loophole was right-handed. The Matt White the Dodgers signed is a lefty.
2007-02-05 10:52:39
160.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps the two Matt Whites are Doppelgangers and exist as mirror images of each other?
2007-02-05 11:07:42
161.   Jon Weisman
159 - Okay. Who wants to write the new capsule? :)
2007-02-05 11:09:13
162.   Bob Timmermann
161
So you're discarding the Doppelganger theory as being without merit?
2007-02-05 11:15:51
163.   blue22
161 - "Not as well known as the other guy, but at least he's left-handed."?
2007-02-05 11:19:30
164.   Jon Weisman
161 - No, but I'd still need a new capsule.
2007-02-05 11:21:07
165.   Benaiah
Matt White, P: The good: he is left handed, in his peak productivity years and doesn't give up many home runs (.85 for his career in the minors). The bad: he doesn't strike out many (6.61/9 in the minors), walks plenty (3.71/9), and has 4.16 ERA in the minors, plus he has gotten rocked in brief appearances with Seattle, Boston and Washington. He was solid, with so-so peripherals in AAA last year, at 29 years old. He is the longest of long shots to make the team.
2007-02-05 11:25:24
166.   Benaiah
165 - He has been Rule 5 Drafted twice, once by the Red Sox (who then traded him to the Mariners for Shelton Fulse, who was batting .215 at the time) and once by the Rockies, he was returned both times.
2007-02-05 11:35:03
167.   Benaiah
His first appearance in the bigs with the Red Sox was two outs against the Yankees, where he gave up 6 earned on 4 hits and 2 walks. He followed that up with two outings against the Jays totallying 3 innings, where he gave up 5 earned on 6 hits, a home run and a walk. He was then traded to the Mariners. He would get 6 outs over three appearances with the M's. He was a little better, only giving up 3 runs on two hits, two walks and two home runs. He made one appearance with Washington, he gave up 4 earned on 3 walks and 3 hits, but did strike out 3. Only once has he avoided giving up a run in a major league appearance, and that was in less than an inning pitched.
2007-02-05 11:36:00
168.   Benaiah
Somewhere in there is this blurb: He won't make the team, but might fill out the rotation in Las Vegas.
2007-02-05 11:40:05
169.   Daniel Zappala
I don't know about the rest of you, but I watched the Super Bowl with my kids. Gives you a little different perspective. They thought nearly all the commercials were lame, and I agreed with them. The Snickers ad made no sense -- sure, it was memorable, but it didn't show their product in a good light. Does it make you want to eat a Snickers bar? My kids favorite was the Blockbuster commercial with the mouse.

My kids also universally panned the halftime show. They didn't like the music at all. Neither did I, but then I was never a big Prince fan in the 80s. About the only part they thought was cool was the marching band with glow-in-the-dark stripes on their uniforms.

My favorite part was explaining the telecast to my 7-year-old daughter. She wanted to know where all the cameras were mounted, how they could zoom in, how they chose which shot to use, how they put the animated graphics onto the TV, how they showed the blue and yellow lines for the scrimmage and first down markers, etc.

2007-02-05 11:43:48
170.   Benaiah
169 - You should tell her that the cameras they use have two to three hundred thousand dollar lenses on them that magnify the image so much (with a such a large depth of field) that the camera man's heartbeat would be visible as a slight shake in the camera if it wasn't for special stabilizers. My fact of the day.
2007-02-05 11:44:30
171.   D4P
I don't know about the rest of you, but I watched the Super Bowl with my kids.

I did not watch the Super Bowl with your kids.

2007-02-05 11:47:03
172.   D4P
My favorite part was explaining the telecast to my 7-year-old daughter

BTW: that Etienne sure is a curious little thing

2007-02-05 11:49:24
173.   Daniel Zappala
169 Very cool and 170 very funny.
2007-02-05 11:50:40
174.   Daniel Zappala
172 No, that was Bountiful. Etienne is my oldest boy, named after Etienne Provost.
2007-02-05 12:05:07
175.   Penarol1916
154. Given that Jeff Saturday was Gregg Easterbrook's regular season MVP, it just shows that Slate can't even do their contrarianism in an original way.
2007-02-05 12:05:56
176.   Bob Timmermann
I watched the Super Bowl on a TV in Howard Fox's kitchen.
2007-02-05 12:42:53
177.   Benaiah
Where is everyone? This is more or less baseball season! What with there no longer being football, it must be baseball season. Except for the -8 degree weather (with the wind chill) here in the Windy City, it feels like summer to me.
2007-02-05 12:44:50
178.   Andrew Shimmin
Running with Bob's theory, the blurb was already provided by Nabokov:

[White, Matt]: American dramatist. Born in Ocean City, N.J., 1911. Educated at Columbia University. Started on a commercial career but turned to playwriting. Author of The Little Nymph, The Lady Who Loved Lightning (in collaboration with Vivian Darkbloom), Dark Age, The strange Mushroom, Fatherly Love, and others. His many plays for children are notable. Little Nymph (1940) traveled 14,000 miles and played 280 performances on the road during the winter before ending in New York. Hobbies: fast cars, photography, pets.

2007-02-05 12:49:04
179.   Xeifrank
I'm not sure I'd want an obituarist spending too much time in my kitchen. Especially, if he's looking for writing material. vr, Xei
2007-02-05 13:47:45
180.   ToyCannon
On a slow day I'll ask this question again that I asked several days ago. What conference did Arizona and Arizona State play in before they joined the Pac10?
2007-02-05 13:59:54
181.   Jon Weisman
Over the weekend, Newsday ran an article with this headline:

Diamonds in the rough
Mets GM Minaya part of Major League Baseball contingent bringing game to Ghana's youth

http://tinyurl.com/2844xu

Today, The Statesman of Ghana ran the same article, with this headline:

A RACIST JOURNALIST ON GHANA

http://www.thestatesmanonline.com/pages/section.php?section=3

2007-02-05 14:09:10
182.   Benaiah
Wow, I read that article with my racism radar turned on and caught nary a whiff. Unless those descriptions are inaccurate profiles of life in Ghana, surely it isn't racist to describe the life there. I wish that the Statesman would offer a bit of an explanation for their bile.
2007-02-05 14:10:17
183.   Marty
I thought that ASU and Arizona were in the WACC. When they left, the WACC added two schools.
2007-02-05 14:10:34
184.   Marty
or just WAC
2007-02-05 14:13:42
185.   Benaiah
This is the comment on the original article. It actually is a little xenophobic, and idiotic considering that a huge segment of baseball is already international.

"Now I'm irate. Why is it MLB allows these exxecutives to search all around the world for Major League talent when we have millions of US children play 360 days a year with the hopes of one day playing in the major leagues. If MLB is trying to play to the international community, start an international leaugue. Is it correct to say if MLB continues to go this route we can no longer call it americas game? This is in no way intended to be a racist comment, i just feel for those who raise kids to be the best they can be, help them one day acheive their goals only to be snubbed because MLB went to Ghana and found 3 ballplayers and for publicity reasons, put them on a roster and not a comparitable US born player. This whole scenario is a major turn-off."

2007-02-05 14:19:00
186.   Andrew Shimmin
I wonder if the web title is the same as the print title, or if some enterprising young hoodlum vandalized The Statesman.
2007-02-05 14:22:53
187.   Jon Weisman
184 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Athletic_Conference
2007-02-05 14:34:25
188.   Dodger Jack
Nice pre-season assessment, Jon.

Am I alone in my hope that Ned will deal Tomko and Hendrickson and replace them with Meloan and Miller? It would do wonders for the budget. Let's give the M&M boys a shot.

2007-02-05 14:40:06
189.   dan310
What do Mark Alexander's prospects for 2007 look like? He at least seems like a candidate to get called up when middle relievers start pitching like middle relievers.
2007-02-05 15:04:02
190.   LAT
Perhaps mentioned above and I missed it but the Coroners's office determined Mario Danelo was drunk when he fell. As a parent, I think I would rather be left with the belief that a horrible, stupid accident took my child rather than suicide. Either way its awful.

http://tinyurl.com/yqum9o

2007-02-05 15:14:30
191.   ToyCannon
183 187
Thanks
2007-02-05 15:30:21
192.   godvls
Prior to joining the WAC, ASU (or ASC-Tempe as they were known) was in the Border Conference.
2007-02-05 15:38:16
193.   Marty
.23 blood alcohol is black-out drunk. Man, he may not have known what was happening even as he fell. How sad.
2007-02-05 15:39:29
194.   D4P
.23 blood alcohol is black-out drunk

Yeah. Point-zero-eight is enough.

2007-02-05 15:56:33
195.   DodgerJoe
188 - I'm with you. Somehow, I can't see at least two of the 3 (Tomko, Dessens, Hendrickson) on the opening day roster.

They make too much for their roles on the team and would seem easily tradeable considering the need for pitching across the league.

Any comments?

2007-02-05 16:03:10
196.   Bob Timmermann
None of the original six members of the WAC are still in the conference: Arizona, ASU, BYU, Utah, New Mexico, and Wyoming.

The school with the longest current tenure in the WAC is Hawai'i.

2007-02-05 16:03:44
197.   regfairfield
195 I say keep Tomko around, he's inevitably going to need to make several starts this year, and he's a better 7th starter than most teams have.

Dessens should be traded since he costs no money, so he could get something decent in return. If we don't, he'll probably be DFAed by mid season.

Trade Hendrickson the first time anyone offers anything for him. I would recommend calling Wayne Krivski.

2007-02-05 16:05:59
198.   Gagne55
193 Isn't a blackout when somebody is still conscious and mostly aware of their surroundings, just they are unable to store memory long-term and later will remember nothing that happened during the blackout?
2007-02-05 16:08:04
199.   dzzrtRatt
D.J. Houlton, P: The sometimes 2005 No. 5 starter spent 2006 in Las Vegas and posted a 5.60 ERA, striking out 7.3 batters per inning.

Wow. That's gotta be a record.

Sounds like the Dodger organization has some serious catching problems, though.

My left-field prediction is that Garciaparra will be moved to third base, and that Loney will play the whole season at first base. I don't think Nomar's a lock to play first. I say this based somewhat on the answers he gave in an interview on Dodger Talk last night on KFWB after the SB broadcast. If Nomar plays third, Betemit will be his backup and spell him sometimes when the matchups favor it. I think LaRoche has another minor league season to look forward to.

Kemp's only shot in '07 is injury or rapid decline by Ethier or Gonzalez, and even then I think that Colletti would try to fill that hole with a trade for a veteran with some home run power.

2007-02-05 16:17:12
200.   ssjames
199 I actually played in little league with Mike Schultz a minor league pitcher for the D-Backs who holds part of a record as he once struck out five batters in a single minor league inning.
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2007-02-05 16:20:47
201.   Marty
198 I would accept the "still conscious" but argue the "mostly aware". If you are that drunk, I could easily believe not realizing you fell off a cliff.
2007-02-05 16:21:31
202.   Bob Timmermann
198
Although I have not been drunk, I will give my experiences of blacking out from a seizure.

Most commonly, the situation is like this. I would be sitting on my couch watching TV. Then the next thing I know, I'm on the floor in the bathroom puking into the toilet wondering to myself "Why am I puking in the toilet? I was watching TV most recently wasn't I?"

Then I find a small cut on my head and everything starts to come together although it takes a while as my brain isn't able to stitch together all the events. And some I have no memory of. Such as the lapsing into unconsciousness part.

I don't recommend this for people. But while I was out, I had absolutely no recollection of what was going on as my brain was busy doing other things. Such as telling my body to shake uncontrollably.

Stupid brain.

2007-02-05 16:33:28
203.   dzzrtRatt
Wikipedia has two relevant terms for blackout: Fainting -- in a medical context; or amnesia caused by the effects of alcohol. Within the alcohol context, there are also two relevant meanings. Blackout/amnesia caused by short-term excessive drinking, and blackout/amnesia caused by the vitamin B1 deficiency caused by long-term alcoholism.

I think the SC kicker experienced a total loss of motor control. Either that, or the alcohol put him in a coma so when he fell, he wasn't conscious. That's a lot of booze.

If suicide is understood as a reaction to severe depression, I suppose I might be slightly more willing to accept that outcome as a form of pain cessation if I were his parent. But an accident like this? I'd never get over it.

2007-02-05 17:39:09
204.   Uncle Miltie
Terrible news: my history class was cancelled today.

I hate when that happens.

Jon, I think if healthy, Rudy Seanez can be a solid contributor to this team. I really believe that he has something left in the tank, even at 38. If healthy (again), I think he'd be more worthy of a roster spot than Elmer Dessens, despite not being able to pitch multiple innings. Isn't that what we have BJ for?

2007-02-05 17:45:43
205.   Bob Timmermann
Those who do not attend history classes are doomed to repeat them.
2007-02-05 17:54:13
206.   D4P
205
Did you enjoy thinking of and then typing that...?
2007-02-05 17:58:25
207.   Greg Brock
I don't get it when people tell me that they hate history. Murder, betrayal, war, love, vengeance, larger than life figures...

I just don't get it.

2007-02-05 18:02:46
208.   Bob Timmermann
207
You left out simony! Simony! That topic is gold!

And tariffs! People love to write about tariff disputes!

2007-02-05 18:03:05
209.   Greg Brock
Though I must admit that most History teachers make an exciting subject as boring as all get out. I love the subject despite my teachers, not because of them.
2007-02-05 18:03:26
210.   D4P
What percentage of studying history (out of 100) would you say involves memorizing factual information (e.g. dates, names, places, etc.)...?
2007-02-05 18:04:09
211.   Greg Brock
208 Not helping...at all.
2007-02-05 18:04:48
212.   Uncle Miltie
The Mongols, Genghis Khan, history in the 1200's.

Pretty exciting, I know.

If I could, I'd take another math class instead of history.

2007-02-05 18:06:40
213.   Bob Timmermann
210
For a good history teacher, memorizing factual information would make up a small fraction of what you should know.

Who cares about a date an event happened as long as you can just place it in the correct context?

Is it important to know the dates that the American and French Revolutions started or is it more important to know in which order they occurred, what other events in the world were happening at the time, and how one influenced the other?

2007-02-05 18:07:26
214.   Bob Timmermann
I wrote a paper on simony. I found it pretty interesting.
2007-02-05 18:10:18
215.   Greg Brock
211 That's where history teachers kill the drill. Dates are important, but not very. I can count on one hand the number of test questions I've given that count on dates.

Context is most important. What event followed what. Such and such is a reaction to this event. History is a story, not a multiplication table to be memorized.

2007-02-05 18:10:44
216.   Greg Brock
213 Or, more simply, what Bob said.
2007-02-05 18:13:21
217.   Bob Timmermann
The best part about studying the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act is that you get to say "Smoot."
2007-02-05 18:16:05
218.   Greg Brock
I'll tell you this much. Most of my colleagues told me that I couldn't lecture students. Lecture is college work, not high school work. High school kids need homework and classwork, not lecture.

I ignored them, and lecture a ton. I talk to my kids. I don't give a lot of homework. I do a lot of role playing exercises. I tell stories. My kids smoked every other teacher's benchmark scores.

2007-02-05 18:18:19
219.   D4P
217
It is also possible to say "Smoot" without actually having to study the Act...
2007-02-05 18:21:35
220.   Bob Timmermann
219
But if you can say "Smoot" in context, then you can also relate your knowledge of the Kellogg-Briand Pact.

Did you know that treaty outlawed war?

2007-02-05 18:24:43
221.   D4P
Did you know that treaty outlawed war?

Don't know much about history. Or biology, for that matter.

2007-02-05 18:25:17
222.   Uncle Miltie
The Texas/A & M game is going to be a great one. I think A & M is one of the most underrated teams in the country.
2007-02-05 18:27:18
223.   Greg Brock
220 Congrats on being the first person in the history of the world who thinks the Kellogg-Briand Pact has any historical significance whatsoever.
2007-02-05 18:31:13
224.   Bob Timmermann
223
I'm a treaty nerd and will often go out of my way to stop in cities where famous treaties were signed.

Man, did I like Portsmouth! I still haven't made it to Dayton. But Utrecht was great. I felt like I had the whole Spanish Succession thing settled and effectively ended religious wars on the European Continent.

Oddly enough, I missed out on Ghent when I went to Belgium. I was debating whether or not to go to Ostend and issue a Manifesto.

2007-02-05 18:35:35
225.   D4P
will often go out of my way to stop in cities where famous treaties were signed

Weren't there any famous treaties signed in Oregon? Like, maybe the kind where the White Man said he'd stop killing the Natives and taking their land in exchange for the Natives agreeing to live on a small reservation and not bother the White Man...?

2007-02-05 18:38:21
226.   Bob Timmermann
There is something called the Oregon Treaty, but it was signed in Washington, D.C.

This treaty:
http://www.critfc.org/text/wstreaty.html
was signed near the modern day The Dalles. It was between the U.S. Government and the Wasco Nation.

2007-02-05 18:41:49
227.   D4P
Is that treaty famous enough for you...?
2007-02-05 18:54:22
228.   Bob Timmermann
If Oregon makes the Final Four, I will take a weekend trip to the Evergreen State.
2007-02-05 19:01:25
229.   D4P
Pshaw, this team isn't exactly the Tall Firs...
2007-02-05 19:03:45
230.   Bob Timmermann
I think a headline like this would make Greg Brock an angry man.

It's from SI.com

"Gators a unanimous No. 1, Ohio St. at No. 3"

2007-02-05 19:04:56
231.   Greg Brock
I'm really rooting for the Ducks. To me, they're a lot like Kuo. Good stuff, quality team, completely overrated. Listening to Ducks fans is like listening to Kuo supporters. They think the player/team is so much better than they actually are, but the passion is fantastic. I respect the passion.
2007-02-05 19:06:09
232.   Greg Brock
230 That headline is just fine by me. #1 RPI means you can't complain about rankings. We'll be the #1 seed in the West. That's all I want.
2007-02-05 19:07:01
233.   D4P
231
I, for one, pretty much never think the Ducks are better than they actually are. I always expect them to choke.
2007-02-05 19:12:42
234.   Uncle Miltie
231- so overrated that they are ranked 15th in the country despite wins against UCLA, Stanford and Georgetown, Arizona, and Washington State all on the road? Seems like they might actually be underrated.
2007-02-05 19:15:47
235.   Greg Brock
234 I like Oregon...They've had a great first 2/3 of a season...They're just not elite. That's all I'm saying. I'm certainly not the final word on the subject. It's just my opinion.
2007-02-05 19:20:26
236.   Sam DC
Didn't Todd Bozeman coach at Cal? Or was it Stanford? http://tinyurl.com/2vq4wh

Meanwhile, 2-2 Puerto Rico/Mexico in the 7th.

And they had cheerleaders during the seventh inning stretch.

2007-02-05 19:23:58
237.   Bob Timmermann
Looking through Oregon's NCAA basketball tournament history, I saw that the Ducks were eliminated in consecutive years (1960 and 1961) by USC and Cal. Turns out that from 1958-1963, Oregon wasn't a member of the then-PCC.
2007-02-05 19:24:46
238.   Jon Weisman
236 - Pshaw. It was Cal.
2007-02-05 19:25:37
239.   Bob Timmermann
236

Todd Bozeman coached at Cal. He had some issues with things like ... rules...

I'm sure Lou Campanelli will speak well of him.

2007-02-05 19:26:24
240.   Bob Timmermann
If Dodger Jack wanders by, he's going to be angry that Bozeman's name was brought up at the same time as Stanford.
2007-02-05 19:35:43
241.   Sam DC
This -- http://tinyurl.com/387hnm -- is a we site recommending Captain Jack as an appropriate wedding tune.

I don't think these people have listened to the Captain Jacks in some time.

Like this line, for example:

"You've got everything, but nothing's cool
They've just found your father in the swimming pool
And you guess you won't be going back to school
Anymore..."

2007-02-05 19:38:14
242.   Sam DC
er, we b site.
2007-02-05 19:41:26
243.   trainwreck
I would go with Enjoy the Silence by Depeche Mode.
2007-02-05 19:44:47
244.   Sam DC
Yikes. I'm more of an LA County guy (Lyle L.)
2007-02-05 19:48:19
245.   trainwreck
Or This Guys In Love With You.
2007-02-05 20:03:35
246.   Sam DC
Free beisbol!
2007-02-05 20:05:29
247.   Andrew Shimmin
Mexico is trying to make me look bad.
2007-02-05 20:07:13
248.   saltcreek
man i wish the lakers hadnt traded away Caron Butler...
2007-02-05 20:07:17
249.   trainwreck
Are you getting the Caribbean World Series?
2007-02-05 20:08:40
250.   Sam DC
249: Yep, on MASN in DC area.
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2007-02-05 20:09:43
251.   Ken Arneson
If my current business venture pays off, it will be, in a way, all thanks to Todd Bozeman.

It's a long story.

2007-02-05 20:10:04
252.   Andrew Shimmin
249- It's on Fox Sports en Espanol, out here. En vivo!
2007-02-05 20:11:49
253.   Uncle Miltie
Josh Carter scores on a great drive for Texas A & M.

Dicky V then brings up the Cameron Crazies. What the heck?

2007-02-05 20:13:51
254.   trainwreck
Well at least he hasn't said imagine how good Kevin Durant would be under Coach K.
2007-02-05 20:13:56
255.   Greg Brock
If my current business venture pays off, it will be, in a way, all thanks to Todd Bozeman.

Now I'm convinced that Andrew deals Bioweapons.

2007-02-05 20:14:47
256.   Bob Timmermann
253
I believe Vitale went from Josh Carter to the Cameron Crazies and then he veered out into a discussion of Aaron Brooks.

Then he kept yelling at Dan Schulman "You have no fear of failure!"

2007-02-05 20:15:12
257.   Greg Brock
Andrew deals Bioweapons through Ken. I know it.
2007-02-05 20:15:37
258.   Andrew Shimmin
Armando Rios makes me question my devotion to Juan Encarnacion.
2007-02-05 20:16:07
259.   Uncle Miltie
256- "Are you serious? Are you serious?"

I've heard him mention Coach K's name tonight almost as many times as Durant's.

2007-02-05 20:17:45
260.   Bob Timmermann
259
It's been 26 years since Vitale has been to College Station. I wonder how long it's been since he's been to any Pac-10 arena outside of McKale and Pauley?
2007-02-05 20:20:01
261.   Andrew Shimmin
Jon Weber goes Karim Garcia all over the home plate ump.
2007-02-05 20:20:33
262.   Jon Weisman
260 - I think he did Arizona at Stanford once. I dare say he hasn't been to the Pacific Northwest in a while.
2007-02-05 20:21:39
263.   saltcreek
wow the umps eject people quick down south
2007-02-05 20:23:19
264.   Uncle Miltie
Pac 10? It's all about the ACC, baby!

Dicky V in Cameron Indoor = a kid in the Willy Wonka factory

I feel sorry for Dan Shulman, he always gets partnered up with Dicky V. I think we should bail him out of his ESPN job. I propose a trade; Charley Steiner for Dan Shulman.

Steiner and Vitale together...what a duo they'd make.

2007-02-05 20:23:25
265.   Greg Brock
261 Having hung out with Jon Weber, I can tell you that he is about twelve kinds of crazy. He's also member of the original Spur Posse!
2007-02-05 20:23:37
266.   Andrew Shimmin
At some point, I'm going to start wondering if this is just a way to avoid sticking around for the whole series. It's no fun getting swept, I bet. Ejections in the Serie del Caribe come with an additional one game suspension. Weber probably wants to go fishing tomorrow.
2007-02-05 20:24:30
267.   Andrew Shimmin
265- Wow. I remember that story. It was a Law and Order, too!
2007-02-05 20:24:44
268.   Bob Timmermann
OK, ABC, USC is at Washington State on March 3. Send Dickie V to Pullman!
2007-02-05 20:26:07
269.   Sam DC
Network Solutions reports that "www.dickievtopullman.com" is unclaimed at the moment.
2007-02-05 20:28:23
270.   Bob Timmermann
They're lucky to get Steve Phyioc to show up in Pullman.

Keith Jackson didn't even like making trips to Pullman and he went to school there.

2007-02-05 20:28:28
271.   Jon Weisman
What about www.dickievtopullman.tv?
2007-02-05 20:28:30
272.   Sam DC
Hey Bob -- Chris is a star.

http://tinyurl.com/ypfset

2007-02-05 20:29:16
273.   Jon Weisman
In college I had two ties, and I left one in Moscow, Idaho after the Stanford-Washington State game.

And that's why I now only have one tie.

2007-02-05 20:32:22
274.   trainwreck
Physioc deserves to get sent to Pullman as punishment for being so terrible.
2007-02-05 20:33:54
275.   Uncle Miltie
so there's a better chance of Bob going to Oregon than Pullman?
2007-02-05 20:37:45
276.   trainwreck
274
Of course, he does have to work with Rex Hudler so maybe he has been punished enough.
2007-02-05 20:40:00
277.   Daniel Zappala
258 Speaking of Juan Encarnacion and Hee-Seop Choi, I picked up a sale version of the 2004 MVP Baseball title for Nintendo for my kids a few weeks ago. This weekend I played an Angels vs. Dodgers game, and Juan Encarnacion was making highlight-reel plays in LF nearly every inning, diving all over the place. In the same game, Choi was a homer short of going for the cycle, and every subsequent time he came up to bat the announcer would mention this. "Here's Hee-Seop Choi. Watch out, if he gets a homer here, he's hit for the cycle!" I was still learning the game, but I got my first ever strikeout when I retired him on some pitches out of the zone.
2007-02-05 20:44:44
278.   Daniel Zappala
I think if Vitale went to the Pit for a big Pac-10 game, he might just stay in the Northwest for the rest of his announcing career.
2007-02-05 20:51:15
279.   Andrew Shimmin
277- You played as the Angels?!

Grabowski:Bartholomew::Zappala:Peter

2007-02-05 21:08:17
280.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2007-02-05 21:18:22
281.   Daniel Zappala
279 You would prefer I play as Juan Encarnacion? I make no secret of my affection for both teams. I grew up with Bobby Grich and Reggie Smith as my two favorites.

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