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The sad irony of my ongoing plea for patience with Wilson Betemit is that the fact that I wasn't really happy about his acquisition.
From July 29:
Okay, something's nagging at me a little bit about Friday's trade. And it's not the news that the Dodgers are paying the remainder of Danys Baez's contract, though I suppose that's kind of annoying.Of course, now Izuris and Aybar are both gone and both having years as miserable as Betemit's or worse. (Izturis has a .513 OPS in 20 games for the Cubs; Aybar is off Atlanta's active roster and dealing with personal problems.) Over the past year, the Dodgers haven't had a hot corner as much as they have a plutonium corner, destroying ballplayers from the inside out.In Willy Aybar, the Dodgers got rid of a player who displayed a nice grasp of the strike zone (he walked about once every six at-bats, with fewer strikeouts than walks) and an excellent doubles rate (20 doubles in his first 214 major-league at-bats, projecting to roughly 50 for a full season) for an older player (how much older, we're not exactly sure) whose principal advantage, at least for now, is home run power. There are mixed reports on both players' defense.
It's not that Wilson Betemit's nine home runs in 199 at-bats this season don't matter to me, but do they outweigh the points against him?
I'm splitting hairs a little bit. The trade succeeds in boosting the Dodgers' thin hopes for this year without sacrificing the future in any significant way - in fact, it may help the future as well. The worst possibility is that in a few years, we learn that Aybar is the superior talent.
But I woke up this morning feeling a little sad about how much the Dodgers focused on what Aybar lacked instead of what he offered.
A couple days ago, when I pointed out the Baseball Prospectus study that Alfonso Soriano and Carlos Lee each represented just a one-win improvement for the remainder of the season if either replaced Kenny Lofton, I have to admit that it puzzled me. You can imagine Soriano coming in here and hitting a three-run homer that gives the Dodgers a victory - is the idea that putting that aside, Soriano and Lofton would be equal?
And then you think about it. Baseball's a tradeoff. On another hypothetical night, Soriano would go 0 for 4 when Lofton might get two hits and stolen base. It goes back and forth like that over 60 games, and somehow the differences minimize. Soriano's still better, but he's not better every game.
So I think about how Aybar was benched so that Cesar Izturis could play. Izturis is without a doubt the more spectacular fielder. But in many games, Aybar would make all the plays at third base that Izturis would make. And yes, in a few games, Aybar would make more plays than Izturis, because Izturis isn't perfect.
In the end, Izturis comes out ahead. But when you have the reptuation of being a better fielder, people tend to focus on the plays you make and forgive the plays you don't. For Aybar, it was the opposite. The differences get blown out of proportion - just like the differences between Soriano and Lofton, which is why you don't break First Prospect Bank to get Soriano.
Meanwhile, at his worst, Aybar hit home runs more often than Izturis, who celebrates them like birthdays. In fact, there isn't a single aspect of using the bat in which Aybar, at age 23, isn't already superior to the 26-year-old Izturis - and that factors in Aybar's summer slump. You don't know offensive slumps until you've seen Izturis.
Again, I get what Friday's trade was about. It was an attempt to balance prayers for 2006 with hopes for the future. I'm not complaining about that.
But another underlying truth about the trade - unless other moves are made - is that it was a final exchange of Aybar for Izturis. Given that Izturis was contributing almost nothing toward the team's current hopes, and that he realistically has no future with the Dodgers - as soon as Jeff Kent returns, Izturis is supposed to go to the bench if he hasn't already been traded - this is the trade that's bugging me.
And I don't even have the raging dislike for Izturis that some others have. I love his glove, and I'm dispassionately bored by his bat. He is who he is. A great-fielding No. 8 hitter. Just like the great-fielding 22-year-old the Dodgers have at AA Jacksonville, Chin-Lung Hu.
I don't know if Atlanta would have taken Izturis instead of Aybar, though it does appear that their primary goal was Baez and so the second player in the trade could have been either infielder. I also don't know if Izturis will yield a bigger prize in a few days or months. All I can say is that as I write this, I'd rather Aybar were still in the Dodger organization, for all his flaws, even if he were at AAA, than Izturis.
Anyway, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com and Tony Jackson of the Daily News reported that Dodger manager Grady Little did not give Betemit a vote of confidence after tonight's game, so the door might be closing. All that's left is for Walter Cronkite to report that the Betemit war is lost.
And I'll admit, as I reflected on the Dusty Baker piece I wrote this morning, even as I preached patience, I wondered whether Betemit should be given an extended benching, where he works out his problems somewhere besides the spotlight of the starting lineup. (Jackson himself speculates that Betemit looks so far gone, he might actually sneak through waivers at this point, though I tend to doubt it.)
To me, the long-term path right now isn't to play Wilson Valdez or Ramon Martinez at third base. The path is to get Nomar Garciaparra to start taking ground balls and practicing throws at third base. I say this knowing that the Dodgers object to it and that, even if he isn't saying so publicly, Garciaparra perhaps objects to it. But if the Dodgers have hit rock bottom at third base, as Little said about Betemit, then it's time to do more than crawl along the ground. It's time for something that has real potential. Garciaparra can throw a baseball 150 feet a few times a day to get that job done and allow James Loney to play first.
If that's not the choice, then I'd rather see Tony Abreu or even the struggling Andy LaRoche get a shot over Valdez or Martinez. The Dodgers need upside.
Please, oh please...From your lips to God's ears.
Las Vegas is trying to platoon about 6 maybe 7 outfielders and bringing up Kemp and Loney would make sense there as well.
But if change is in the air, Kemp should get some starts in CF.
Nomar's production isn't ideal for third base, but it is optimal for our roster. And getting Loney in the lineup is an imperative (in my opinion). It's the best we can do with what we have.
I wouldn't expect a fan of mixed-martial arts to understand.
Minions don't get to choose. That's what makes them minions.
Or American football?
It's not about the brutality. It's about the stamina and technique and fitness and strategy. Boxing is sport in it's truest sense. It's just been destroyed by charlatans and con men.
So how about a triathalon or marathon chess? Something that doesn't involve punching someone else to demonstrate your superiority.
This applies even more so to MMA, given that there are a lot more techniques to master and more strategies to employ and defend.
Mitchell: Thanks for meeting with me, Player X. So, did you ever use steroids?
Player X: No speako Englisho.
Mitchell: I've heard you speak English before.
Player X: Um, I'm not here to talk about the past.
Mitchell: Actually, that's exactly why you're here. Again, did you ever use steroids?
Player X: No.
Mitchell: OK, thanks for your honesty. You can go now.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
I understand why people don't like boxing. I just don't like the supposition that it's a brutal, stupid sport. It's not. In many ways, it's the simplest, most honest representation of sport. I get that it's not for everybody, but it's not barbarism, either.
Again, this applies to MMA.
My mother had a "Bob Dylan for Babies" album that she had playing near my crib most of the time. I think I was deeply affected by the baby version of "Who Killed Davey Moore?"
My mom was very forward thinking in her child-rearing.
I will watch Joe vs. the Volcano for the Ossie Davis scene, with the wardrobe and the haircut, which is my favorite part. Set to the wonderful tones of Mas Que Nada.
"You're coming into focus, Kid."
Manny Ramirez Asks Red Sox If He Can Work From Home
http://tinyurl.com/2yuysu
And I am wondering - If Kent acquires a certain number of plate appearances this year, then it is mandatory to offer him the extension for next year (?)
Stuck in a prison cell
But one time he could have been
The champion of the world.
1) drinking coffee
2) choices in Pac-10 teams to root for
Great analogy. If you're looking for a new favorite baseball announcer, you might consider this guy:
http://tinyurl.com/2z5g2h
Marty would tell me that I could appreciate Freaks and Geeks. Marty would support me on that.
You get a card that informs you of your status of being part of the "they" in "that's what they say."
It's a great feeling.
It's terrible. I feel terrible. I feel shame.
To be precise, Cronkite said, in 1968, that the Vietnam War was "unwinnable." February 27, 1968, not long before the New Hampshire primary.
vr, Xei
I mean, that's what we were told...Right?
vr, Xei
""He's pretty much hit rock bottom right now," said Little. "There's nowhere to go but up."
Asked if that meant he was sticking with Betemit, Little said: "Not necessarily. We'll see.""
And what does that mean? Hopefully, Grady understands that there doesn't have to be anywhere gone [as it were], since Betemit could simply hold steady course at .125 [wallow in it, as it were]. Of course, given that Juan Pierre gets a lot of hits, I'm taking no bets on whether Grady and Ned get it. Tell Grady for me that in terms of evolutionary biology, we could say that one option is that Betemit has found his evolution by natural selection niche as a .125 hitter and so it shall remain, with no movement, instead, inertial rest at .125.
But here's to hoping that Betemit makes me eat crow...
"Are you contemplating moving Nomar to third base, or have there been any discussions about it?"
Yes/No
"Has Nomar said he is willing to move to third base, as he expressed before he was signed to a two-year deal?"
Yes/No
Answer those questions, put them in an article, and let the fans know what the situation is. I don't think this is a difficult course of action.
I liked Betemit when he came on, and I still think he'd be a useful player. His swing is certainly shorter, and I don't know how much of that is just him having difficulty adjusting. But still, I'm not buying that you should judge the performance of a guy as is with a .171 BABIP. His PrOPS is at .719 right now. I don't know if he's gonna go all Marlon Anderson on us sometime later, but I can say that if his batting average on balls in play goes up to .240 that he'd put up a respectable OBP.
Of course, as luck changes, it could be that the next rookie that comes up does well, and that management will act intelligently as a result. But I'm bracing myself for a month of Wilson Valdez at the hot corner.
"I wanted to be back; it was my first choice and what I focused on," Garciaparra said. "I'm glad I didn't have to draw my attention anywhere else. I really enjoy putting on that uniform. They asked me my feelings about a position change. Look, I changed positions last year. My attitude is the same: whatever they feel gives us the best opportunity to win. I'm sure I'll play some first base. Maybe there'll be times I play another position. I'm open to it, ready and willing. If they need me to catch, I'll catch."
"Nomar played a huge role in the Dodgers' success last season and an offensive threat like him is not easy to find," said Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti. "His versatility, mental toughness, clutch performances and leadership capabilities make him a perfect fit for this team."
That's all I got. But I do want to keep Betemit around; I think he can be valuable as a fielder right now, and get spot starts while he works on whatever it is he needs to get his confidence back.
Let's ask Mia!
.336/.355/.486
I wouldn't call .841 OPS no hit. he's leading the league in doubles too
Ugh.
Go Suns!
We're a month into the season.
There's a problem.
Time for an intervention of some sort, no?
OR was he that attached to the Dodger Organization?
Or is the West Coast that much more comfortable than Atlanta weather?
OR.?????
Yep, Valdez is expendable. No one has mentioned Martinez or Anderson. I would move them, too, if it meant creating spots for Kemp, Loney, Abreu, and even LaRoche or Bigbie(!). We need some hitters, pronto.
I am also tired of The New and Improved Tomko. He is the same Tomko we've always known. I would waive goodbye to him and Seanez and bring up Kuo and Brazoban. Let Bills and Kuo compete for the fifth slot in the rotation. Wasn't that the plan in the preseason?
I miss Sam in DC on mornings like this and wish he could at least login on a Saturday morning.
Nomar is not carrying this team, pitching is and the Dodgers have plenty of it. Moving Nomar to third is only the first thing I would change. The outfield should be Bigbie, Kemp, and Ethier. Gonzo and Pierre should provide veteran suppport from the bench.
To make room, Anderson, Betemit, Saenz, and Valdez, are optioned to AAA, traded, or released. Clark becomes the right handed pinch hitter, Gonzo and Pierre the left handed pinch hitters. Martinez is the utility player.
The most realistic remedy to the Dodgers' offensive problem right now is Nomar to third, Loney to first. Then when Kemp comes back, he'll be platooned with Ethier. Ideally, he'd start in place of Gonzo, but that's not gonna happen. And we all know, deep in our hearts, that Pierre is not going anywhere.
Not sure if he is pouting about not making the club- but last year is looking a little like a fluke at this point, as much as I hate to think that.
We are still talking about a first baseman with 1 HR in April, and now his avg isnt that great either.
Bring Loney up and tell him he has the rest of May to own first base and I think he will produce.
If the Dodgers want to send a message to Gonzo and Pierre they can tell them that May belongs to Kemp in CF and Bigbie in left.
The Rangers are in last place and the Dodgers are in first place. If I was a Rangers fan the last thing I'd be thinking about is the fact that Lofton has more homers than than B-Meet and Nomar combined.
Heard Hu mentioned recently. I've been pleased checking box scores recently to find him often with a double and/or a multi-hit game. We may have two Major L. short-stops high in the org. By the way is the Southern considered a hitters league. Even with his small frame Hu seems to have some pop, more than JP.
I just became a Greg Brock fan.
no, it is a pitchers league.
I wonder if this new Grady plan to shake things up a little bit happens today, against Tim Hudson, who's throwing the heck out of the baseball anyways. We're not rolling a seven spot on Tim Hudson, no matter who is in the lineup.
If the D's do decide at some point to try Nomar at third (still doubtful), I don't think it would happen on this road trip...
Riding busses?
"Brad Penny surviving on smoke and mirrors ... Brad Penny (RHP, LA) posted his first Dominant PQS score against the Diamondbacks earlier this week lowering his ERA to 1.64 placing him third amongst National League ERA leaders. While the Dodgers are pleased with Penny's performance on the surface, we don't have to dig very deep to see some red flags.
Year IP ERA xERA H% S% CTL DOM CMD
===== ====== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== =====
2003 196.3 4.13 3.62 30% 70% 2.6 6.3 2.5
2004 143.0 3.15 3.57 29% 77% 2.8 7.0 2.5
2005 175.3 3.91 3.59 31% 72% 2.1 6.3 3.0
1H 06 94.0 3.06 3.72 30% 76% 2.5 6.7 2.7
2H 06 95.0 5.59 3.67 36% 65% 2.7 7.4 2.8
2007 38.3 1.64 4.02 26% 86% 4.0 3.5 0.9
Pitchers with ERA's under 2.00 don't come with WHIP's of 1.30 and they certainly don't strike out less batters than they walk and that is exactly what Penny is doing. Just like Lady Luck worked against Penny in the 2H of 2006, she is smiling on Brad Penny in 2007 as illustrated by his low H% and high strand rate which are certain to regress to the mean over the course of the season. Not scared yet? Then check out Penny's high CTL and incredibly low DOM and you get the picture. Whether you are a Brad Penny owner or somebody looking to acquire Penny based on his ERA, realize that one of two things will happen: a) Penny's luck will run out and his ERA will balloon to over 4.00 as his xERA would suggest b) Penny is hiding an injury and is ready for a trip to the DL. Either way you lose, so think twice when dealing with Brad Penny moving forward. "
I'd give him today off then put him in for the rest of the trip and if he hasn't gotten on track against the Marlin pitching then we have to release Valdez and bring up La Roche or move Nomar over and make Betemit the utility guy. While I have confidence in him they have given him plenty of rope and we just don't have an offense that can handle the black hole he's been at 3b.
May Checklist
Release Valdez
Release Saenez
Entertain offers for Tomko/Hendrickson
Call up Laroche
Call up Kuo
Drop Tomko to Bullpen
Add Kuo into Rotation
Could Hu survive promotion to the bigs? I realize he's not much of a hitter. Is he better than .125?
I have a feeling that Colletti and Little are only playing dumb on the Nomar situation. It was so obvious he needed to move to third base, there must be some compelling reason why it isn't happening.
I agree, I think promoting LaRoche now would be a mistake for the reason dsfan says. He's 2008's answer, maybe.
And I appreciate Daniel's respect for proper spelling of people's surnames.
If I ever have a son, I will name him Zappala.
"And"...?
I already have a nephew named Daniel.
I will tell my brother that his son is retroactively named for Professor Zappala.
That's the nicest thing I've ever heard...
((Two Times) Eight) (Plus One) is Enough
So an 8-5 double play. Yikes.
The beginnings of your posts are confusing me.
My nightmare is, that the Dodgers do in fact move Nomar to third but then Move Kent to first base and platoon Marlon Anderson and Ramon Martinez at second base.
My nightmare is Normar to 3rd, Kent to 1st, Betemit to 2nd. :)
What would Tomko, Hendrickson and Betemit bring in a trade?
Sorry Jon if I sound like Joey repeating myself but this will grate me for as long as JP is in CF and Shane is starting and playing for the minimum salary. I won't mention it again for one month.
I blame Jason Repko's presence and bonus baby status for killing the chances of the above 3 players.
The Spanish-language media calls the Dodgers "Los Dodgers."
Nothing quite like a 'doier dag'
"What do you think your youngsters have to do to make the big league roster, when the major league club has signed people like Garciapara, Pierre and Gonzales, who effectively make it very expensive to bring up Loney/Laroche, and Kemp?"
While we can say all we want about Loney struggling so far in AAA this year, it struck me that Loney will need time to adapt to the Big Leagues too. Would we be having any sort of Betemit conversation if the Dodgers were playing Loney at 1B and Loney was struggling like Betemit?
I never saw it, but everybody else always said that.
http://tinyurl.com/296zfa
Interesting game:
http://tinyurl.com/yugsd4
with video:
http://tinyurl.com/ypdwt8
Everyone on the plane was OK.
Thanks.
Roxbury Latin (Boston) lefty Jack McGeary's signability is the big question now, with one rampant rumor saying he's looking for $2 million to buy him away from his scholarship to Stanford. Some clubs who don't pick until the late first round or the sandwich, including the Mets (who don't pick until No. 44), are still sending the heat in to see him on the thought that he might fall
One of the headlines on Dodgers.com is "Schmidt plays catch". How could would it be to have an article written about your playing catch?
Blame Logan White. He probably insisted that the toolsy, bonus baby Jason Repko was better than Victorino.
It wasnt a huge loss when Victorino left, bc Werth in CF was a better prospect. Blame Ned for getting rid of two CF propsects (Ross/Werth) with greater upside than Victorino.
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